Where did it all go wrong for Rovers?

4:17pm Wednesday 9th May 2012 in Blackburn Rovers Relegation

TELEGRAPH’S Rovers reporter ANDY CRYER has seen all the drama unfold at Ewood Park since Venky’s took control, culminating in Monday’s defeat to Wigan that sent Blackburn to the Championship.

Here, Andy dissects a controversial last 12 months and more at Rovers and analyses the key reasons why the club have ended their 11-year Premier League stay...

Venky's

WHEN analysing where Venky’s have gone wrong in their first foray into football ownership the biggest question is where on earth do you start? They haven’t done anything right.

From day one, the Asian poultry giants have demonstrated how they should have stuck to what they knew – and that clearly wasn’t football – after making bad decision after bad decision to dismantle a once proud club.

Paul Hunt’s explosive letter out-lining what Venky’s needed to do to sort the mess out back in December was spot on. Sadly no one listened to the deputy chief executive.

The way they have the shed the club of years of footballing experience at the very top has been alarming and, while they have brought others in, they don’t seem prepared to listen to anyone.

Venky’s were the masters of their own downfall from day one. When they started proclaiming their bold ambitions of ‘spending more money than ever before’ and ‘returning to Europe’, they were asking for trouble.

These initial ambitions raised expectations and have left everyone even further to fall when the quick realisation came that they had no chance of doing what they said they were going to do.

You can’t help but feel Venky’s didn’t have a clue what they were getting themseives into when they were sold ‘the dream’ by their advisers. It is a dream that has become a nightmare.

While you could excuse their unreal-istic goals as just getting carried away with their acquisition, their next move simply has no excuse.

Sacking Sam Allardyce, a proven Premier League manager, was bad enough but to replace him with a man who had never managed and was just a first team coach was utterly baffling. There was no logic, sense or reason behind the decision.

Appointing Steve Kean as their manager has to rank as one of the worst decisions they have made at the football club. He may be a nice guy but there was no sign he was a football manager.

Anuradha Desai Since then, club matriarch Madame Desai (pictured) has listened to few but him. Kean is one of the few to have had instant access to India.

What on earth has he been telling them?

Their catalogue of errors does not end there. By allowing former chairman John Williams to be marginalised, and ultimately quitting, they lost a great man and a great professional. Williams, Tom Finn, Martin Goodman and Andrew Pincher would not have put up with what has gone on anyway.

It can’t all be laid at the door of the loss of experienced staff though.

Had Venky’s properly invested into the football club, maybe their way would have worked.

While it has to be pointed out they have handed Kean £20million to waste over the past 18 months, they also brought a lot more into the club through the sale of key players.

They also allowed experienced players to leave the club for nothing in their bid to drive down the wage bill. The moment they started making cuts, relegation was inevitable.

Before Venky’s made their bold promises, no-one expected them to turn Rovers from a struggling side into Champions League contenders.

All anyone wanted was the club to continue on a stable footing, with a few more million put into the club to help it to compete.

You can’t run a Premier League club on the cheap. They will soon realise you can’t run a Cham-pionship on the cheap either.

The biggest problem is no-one knows the big plan that Venky’s have, and that is including fellow board members. Their silence is deafening and frankly frightening for the future of the club.

On the bright side, the club aren’t loaded with debts compared to some.

The ideal scenario would be for Venky’s to get their house in order.

They haven’t yet though and you see no reason why they will now.

That leaves only one other alternative and that is to sell the football club to someone who cares. It is difficult to see any other option.

Steve kean

Steve Kean WHEN Steve Kean was appointed as Blackburn Rovers’ caretaker manager the initial reaction was who?

Even though he had been first team coach at Ewood Park for a while, he was very much off the radar for most supporters.

Seeing Kean handed the reins temporarily when Sam Allardyce was sacked wasn’t that alarming at the time. It was natural Allardyce’s number two Neil McDonald would leave as well, leaving Kean as the next man in line.

No-one could have predicted what was to follow as suddenly Kean was being hailed by Venky’s as the man to take the club forward – despite having absolutely no background or pedigree to suggest as much.

Their continual insistence that ‘he is a positive thinker’ simply doesn’t cut it. The facts are they took shocking advice and have been paying for it ever since.

There is the argument from those away from Blackburn Rovers that Kean has been handed an impossible situation, by owners who have left him out to dry with no investment and no support.

I’m not having that. After all, Steve was the one who agreed to work this way. He contributed to leaving John Williams feeling marginalised at the start and has said a number of times how happy he is with the working arrangement.

Kean is actually one of the few who have a direct line to Anuradha Desai. No-one can blame him for taking the job but he has to take a share of the blame too.

It is also important to point out that Kean has been given money. Okay, it hasn’t been a lot and he has lost a load of experienced players, but £20million is nothing to be sneezed at.

Kean could have bought some decent players for the money he has spent. Instead, just a look at Monday’s squad shows how much of it has been wasted.

Five of his signings were among the substitutes, with four more not even making the bench. Out of the 13 of his signings at the club, that is not a good success rate.

That is why him talking about the young side he has had to develop grates. The reason he has had to play so many kids is because he doesn’t trust the players he has signed.

The loss of experience also has be partially put at his door. He couldn’t have done anything to keep Chris Samba or Jason Roberts. But surely something could have been done to retain Ryan Nelsen, Keith Andrews and Brett Emerton.

Perhaps an even bigger downfall of his though is the way he has communicated with the fans. All Rovers supporters want is honesty, not continual positivity that is clearly way over the top.

To say there was ‘absolutely no chance” Rovers would be relegated back in November was ridiculous, as was his claim on Monday that Rovers were excellent.

Too many times Rovers have been defended by their boss for toothless displays on the field. An arm around the shoulder is okay now and again. But not all the time.

In recent weeks we have the likes of Gael Givet and Steven Nzonzi growing incr-easingly disillusioned with life under Kean, although, it has to be said, some players still retain support for him.

Kean will never win the fans around. Too much has been said and done to ever get the Ewood faithful back in his favour.

At the start, it was just a case of a manager way out of his depth. Now, no-one can deny, he has contributed to his own downfall.

There is only one direction left for him to head and that is out.

players

Rovers’ players have to accept a share of the blame for the club’s relegation for their performances on the field.

Steven Nzonzi A look at the players in Kean’s squad, the likes of Junior Hoilett, Steven Nzonzi (pictured), Gael Givet, Paul Robinson and Yakubu, suggests they should have had enough to retain their top flight status.

Too many players under performed too many times and the final result was relegation.

Had the players been better the club would have survived no matter who the manager and the owners were.

Having said that, it must have been a pretty demoralising place to have been around. To see so many experienced players leave and replaced by less talented players would have been hard to take.

It obviously got to a lot of players. Look at what has happened to Givet and Nzonzi in recent weeks. Good players, but disillusioned by life at Ewood.

A lot of the players brought to the club under the Venky’s regime have just not been good enough for the Premier League.

They have tried their best but their best was not good enough.

Rovers players have been left as nonplussed as everyone else by the goings on at the club.

They have seen respected professionals and team-mates shipped out and replaced by inexperience.

In all honesty it is a miracle the players even made a fight of staying up. The farce behind the scenes was always going to be too much to cope with.

advisers and walker trust

THE Walker Trust’s silence has been deafening over the past 18 months as they have sat and watched a once proud club dismantled before their eyes.

Jack Walker The truth is they wanted rid of the football club.

After the death of Jack Walker (pictured), it became a a millstone around their neck, and were delighted to have found buyers in Venky’s.

In hindsight, you would have to say they were the wrong buyers but how were the Walker Trust supposed to know that?

Due diligence was done into Venky’s background and finances, and it all came up smelling of roses.

They couldn’t read their minds.

Maybe more could have been done to look into exactly what Venky’s had planned for the football club and maybe their eagerness to sell overtook everything else.

I still think it would be tough to heap too much of the blame at their door.

They should be speaking out now but they had no reason to believe the club would go the way it has.

The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism.

There is no way Venky’s came up with the idea themselves of appointing Steve Kean as manager and someone sold them a very unrealistic dream.

Venky’s didn’t have to listen though and the fact they did makes them again responsible for what has followed.

The Walker Trust should now be trying to protect Jack’s legacy though. He didn’t do everything he did at the football club for it to fall by the wayside.

Comments (145)

4:24pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

"Paul Hunt’s explosive letter out-lining what Venky’s needed to do to sort the mess out back in December was spot on." - absolute class Andy!!
"Paul Hunt’s explosive letter out-lining what Venky’s needed to do to sort the mess out back in December was spot on." - absolute class Andy!! makaveli96

4:26pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

"Venky’s were the masters of their own downfall from day one. When they started proclaiming their bold ambitions" - BALD, I LOVE IT!
"Venky’s were the masters of their own downfall from day one. When they started proclaiming their bold ambitions" - BALD, I LOVE IT! makaveli96

4:28pm Wed 9 May 12

FCBurnley says...

Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world. FCBurnley

4:34pm Wed 9 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

Good points Andy but Steve Kean might be a nice guy? Are you for real? He is a devious little worm who can only be surviving because he is in on the whole sorry situation. If he had a tail he would be a fox. I cannot bear to listen to him any longer. Get a knot in my stomach. It feels like we have a master con man at the helm. He is useless at managing football but a brilliant at manipualtion
Good points Andy but Steve Kean might be a nice guy? Are you for real? He is a devious little worm who can only be surviving because he is in on the whole sorry situation. If he had a tail he would be a fox. I cannot bear to listen to him any longer. Get a knot in my stomach. It feels like we have a master con man at the helm. He is useless at managing football but a brilliant at manipualtion merlinrabbit

4:34pm Wed 9 May 12

Markr says...

it all went wrong the day they decided to support the scum.
it all went wrong the day they decided to support the scum. Markr

4:41pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

"The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome?
"The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome? makaveli96

4:43pm Wed 9 May 12

Jack Herer says...

Does Steve Kean still think he has the backing of the majority of fans, that's the big question?

He can't can he, he must now know that bar a few friends, every single Rovers fan just wants him out.

So why is he staying? Does he honestly think he can turn it around. No-one even wants him to try though.

Just go now Steve, enough's enough.
Does Steve Kean still think he has the backing of the majority of fans, that's the big question? He can't can he, he must now know that bar a few friends, every single Rovers fan just wants him out. So why is he staying? Does he honestly think he can turn it around. No-one even wants him to try though. Just go now Steve, enough's enough. Jack Herer

4:46pm Wed 9 May 12

Stone Island. says...

Why was my comment removed?
Why was my comment removed? Stone Island.

4:48pm Wed 9 May 12

Jack Herer says...

makaveli96 wrote:
"The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome?
The man who had Allardyce sacked, the man who had John Williams and other amazing top level staff sacked, the man who made Steve Kean, his mate, manager?

Yeah I wonder why they don't name him. There's arguably most of the blame against Jerome Anderson. He's arguably the person who has done by far the most damage to Blackburn Rovers in it's history.

His son was a good signing as well!
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: "The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome?[/p][/quote]The man who had Allardyce sacked, the man who had John Williams and other amazing top level staff sacked, the man who made Steve Kean, his mate, manager? Yeah I wonder why they don't name him. There's arguably most of the blame against Jerome Anderson. He's arguably the person who has done by far the most damage to Blackburn Rovers in it's history. His son was a good signing as well! Jack Herer

4:52pm Wed 9 May 12

NICEONESUNSHINE says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
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JUST ONE!!!!
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Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow.... NICEONESUNSHINE

4:55pm Wed 9 May 12

dallarover says...

Good article - but a few months too late. Its still difficult to understand what is in Venky's minds and what there plans are or were - the best I can come up with is that they were very badly advised that the club could be successful with no additional investment and when they've found out that isn't the case they just don't know what to do. The continuing support for Rat Face though continues to defy any logicial explanation - he will never be a good manager either in the Championship or any other league!
Good article - but a few months too late. Its still difficult to understand what is in Venky's minds and what there plans are or were - the best I can come up with is that they were very badly advised that the club could be successful with no additional investment and when they've found out that isn't the case they just don't know what to do. The continuing support for Rat Face though continues to defy any logicial explanation - he will never be a good manager either in the Championship or any other league! dallarover

5:01pm Wed 9 May 12

did you smash it? says...

People talk about the sacking of Sam Allardyce being a bad thing, but what people forget is that 90% of Blackburn fans wanted Venkys to remove BFS from his position at that time, and some fans were extremely vocal about his hoof-ball tactics etc.
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Just goes to show be careful what you wish for - Blackburn would NEVER have been relegated under Allardyce, OK the football may have been dire, but believe me it will be worse next year against the likes of Peterborough and Barnsley.
People talk about the sacking of Sam Allardyce being a bad thing, but what people forget is that 90% of Blackburn fans wanted Venkys to remove BFS from his position at that time, and some fans were extremely vocal about his hoof-ball tactics etc. . Just goes to show be careful what you wish for - Blackburn would NEVER have been relegated under Allardyce, OK the football may have been dire, but believe me it will be worse next year against the likes of Peterborough and Barnsley. did you smash it?

5:03pm Wed 9 May 12

burnleyglentoran says...

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
The one thing that comes across when listening to and reading what B******d fans think is the massive feeling of entitlement.

This God-given right to be in the premier league is just pure arrogance.

Gary Neville said on monday before the game,

"3 teams go down, whats so special about Blackburn?"

And they just dont get it. They really arent as special as they think they are.

Mark hughes wasnt good enough.

Big Sam wasnt good enough.

Roy Hodgson is good enough to manager of England, but wasnt good enough for the deluded!

They fully believe that that "the London Based press dont want a northern team in the Prem and want west ham and southern teams in it"

Middlesbourgh
Sheff Wed
Sheff Utd
Leeds

are all bigger, 3 of them have been in league 1!

Jack Walkers money really went to their communal heads!!

Dont get me wrong I wouldnt say no to a benefactor like Walker. BUT I'd like to think that I'd at least man-up and admit the money took us to a place that, without it, we wouldnt have been.

Apparently, the Venkys didnt think you get relegated. Well it seems that the Bol-Ewood deluded STILL dont beleive it.

The bottom line is this.

You play Spurs and Wigan and dont have a single shot on target.

YOU DESERVE TO GO DOWN.

BURNLEY FC – GOT TO THE PREM ON MERIT.

CAME DOWN, NOT ‘COS OF THE LONDON BASED PRESS, THE MANAGER, THE CHAIRMAN, THE BACKROOM STAFF.

COS WE WEREN’T GOOD ENOUGH
ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS SAYS IT ALL SCRUFF......I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE A CRETIN...."ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS2......
The truth hurts.

Doesnt stop it being the truth.

Now then, how does it go now?

oh yeh!

CHAMPIONSHIP MY LORD, CHAMPIONSHIP
OH LORD CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!
[quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: The one thing that comes across when listening to and reading what B******d fans think is the massive feeling of entitlement. This God-given right to be in the premier league is just pure arrogance. Gary Neville said on monday before the game, "3 teams go down, whats so special about Blackburn?" And they just dont get it. They really arent as special as they think they are. Mark hughes wasnt good enough. Big Sam wasnt good enough. Roy Hodgson is good enough to manager of England, but wasnt good enough for the deluded! They fully believe that that "the London Based press dont want a northern team in the Prem and want west ham and southern teams in it" Middlesbourgh Sheff Wed Sheff Utd Leeds are all bigger, 3 of them have been in league 1! Jack Walkers money really went to their communal heads!! Dont get me wrong I wouldnt say no to a benefactor like Walker. BUT I'd like to think that I'd at least man-up and admit the money took us to a place that, without it, we wouldnt have been. Apparently, the Venkys didnt think you get relegated. Well it seems that the Bol-Ewood deluded STILL dont beleive it. The bottom line is this. You play Spurs and Wigan and dont have a single shot on target. YOU DESERVE TO GO DOWN. BURNLEY FC – GOT TO THE PREM ON MERIT. CAME DOWN, NOT ‘COS OF THE LONDON BASED PRESS, THE MANAGER, THE CHAIRMAN, THE BACKROOM STAFF. COS WE WEREN’T GOOD ENOUGH[/p][/quote]ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS SAYS IT ALL SCRUFF......I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE A CRETIN...."ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS2......[/p][/quote]The truth hurts. Doesnt stop it being the truth. Now then, how does it go now? oh yeh! CHAMPIONSHIP MY LORD, CHAMPIONSHIP OH LORD CHAMPIONSHIP!!!! burnleyglentoran

5:04pm Wed 9 May 12

hasslem hasslem says...

...everybody is scared of naming him who cant be named, its pathetic.
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i trust that all the sicko analysts, experts, ex-fooballers, , david dunn, bradley orr, shock-jock numpties on talkSpurs, london meedja luvvies, journos, managers of other prem teams, the league managers' association will quickly apologise to all rovers supporters which questioned steve kean' ability, sanity and honesty.....i won't hold my breath!
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we must cling to the hope that the relevant organisations start doing the correct investigations to the scandal that has unfurled at our club and one hopes that ultimately there will be some that end up with custodials dished out.
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other posters on here talk about the premiership, the FA, UEFA etc leading the investigation - but that will lead to nothing. for example, the FA wont give a monkeys now - we are not in it. When did the FA ever do anything than issue a cross word....UEFA?? don't make me laugh.
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there are two groups that could take appropriate action...HMRC (but they seem to be trying to herd cats with Glasgow Rangers), the Fraud Squad along with an expert firm of forensic accountants.
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Fit and Proper person test??? - your'e 'avin a giraffe!! - If Venkys (and Kean by association) passed the FaPP test - then the test is hugely inappropriate.
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the only fellow supporters that get it are birmingham, pompey, brighton, leeds (to some extent), coventry, southampton, plymouth, wimbledon, darlington, possible bradford (apologies if i have missed any)
...everybody is scared of naming him who cant be named, its pathetic. . i trust that all the sicko analysts, experts, ex-fooballers, , david dunn, bradley orr, shock-jock numpties on talkSpurs, london meedja luvvies, journos, managers of other prem teams, the league managers' association will quickly apologise to all rovers supporters which questioned steve kean' ability, sanity and honesty.....i won't hold my breath! . we must cling to the hope that the relevant organisations start doing the correct investigations to the scandal that has unfurled at our club and one hopes that ultimately there will be some that end up with custodials dished out. . other posters on here talk about the premiership, the FA, UEFA etc leading the investigation - but that will lead to nothing. for example, the FA wont give a monkeys now - we are not in it. When did the FA ever do anything than issue a cross word....UEFA?? don't make me laugh. . there are two groups that could take appropriate action...HMRC (but they seem to be trying to herd cats with Glasgow Rangers), the Fraud Squad along with an expert firm of forensic accountants. . Fit and Proper person test??? - your'e 'avin a giraffe!! - If Venkys (and Kean by association) passed the FaPP test - then the test is hugely inappropriate. . the only fellow supporters that get it are birmingham, pompey, brighton, leeds (to some extent), coventry, southampton, plymouth, wimbledon, darlington, possible bradford (apologies if i have missed any) hasslem hasslem

5:05pm Wed 9 May 12

did you smash it? says...

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
The one thing that comes across when listening to and reading what B******d fans think is the massive feeling of entitlement.

This God-given right to be in the premier league is just pure arrogance.

Gary Neville said on monday before the game,

"3 teams go down, whats so special about Blackburn?"

And they just dont get it. They really arent as special as they think they are.

Mark hughes wasnt good enough.

Big Sam wasnt good enough.

Roy Hodgson is good enough to manager of England, but wasnt good enough for the deluded!

They fully believe that that "the London Based press dont want a northern team in the Prem and want west ham and southern teams in it"

Middlesbourgh
Sheff Wed
Sheff Utd
Leeds

are all bigger, 3 of them have been in league 1!

Jack Walkers money really went to their communal heads!!

Dont get me wrong I wouldnt say no to a benefactor like Walker. BUT I'd like to think that I'd at least man-up and admit the money took us to a place that, without it, we wouldnt have been.

Apparently, the Venkys didnt think you get relegated. Well it seems that the Bol-Ewood deluded STILL dont beleive it.

The bottom line is this.

You play Spurs and Wigan and dont have a single shot on target.

YOU DESERVE TO GO DOWN.

BURNLEY FC – GOT TO THE PREM ON MERIT.

CAME DOWN, NOT ‘COS OF THE LONDON BASED PRESS, THE MANAGER, THE CHAIRMAN, THE BACKROOM STAFF.

COS WE WEREN’T GOOD ENOUGH
ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS SAYS IT ALL SCRUFF......I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE A CRETIN...."ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS2......
Alright ILOVECUMSHINE - just been allowed back into society have you? Or been lying low because of your team's sh1t performances?
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See you next year, Oh sorry no doubt you will be one of those losers who won't be renewing by blaming Venkys when in reality you just don't want to watch Championship football.
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Better go and protest about it - you scruffy fag
[quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: The one thing that comes across when listening to and reading what B******d fans think is the massive feeling of entitlement. This God-given right to be in the premier league is just pure arrogance. Gary Neville said on monday before the game, "3 teams go down, whats so special about Blackburn?" And they just dont get it. They really arent as special as they think they are. Mark hughes wasnt good enough. Big Sam wasnt good enough. Roy Hodgson is good enough to manager of England, but wasnt good enough for the deluded! They fully believe that that "the London Based press dont want a northern team in the Prem and want west ham and southern teams in it" Middlesbourgh Sheff Wed Sheff Utd Leeds are all bigger, 3 of them have been in league 1! Jack Walkers money really went to their communal heads!! Dont get me wrong I wouldnt say no to a benefactor like Walker. BUT I'd like to think that I'd at least man-up and admit the money took us to a place that, without it, we wouldnt have been. Apparently, the Venkys didnt think you get relegated. Well it seems that the Bol-Ewood deluded STILL dont beleive it. The bottom line is this. You play Spurs and Wigan and dont have a single shot on target. YOU DESERVE TO GO DOWN. BURNLEY FC – GOT TO THE PREM ON MERIT. CAME DOWN, NOT ‘COS OF THE LONDON BASED PRESS, THE MANAGER, THE CHAIRMAN, THE BACKROOM STAFF. COS WE WEREN’T GOOD ENOUGH[/p][/quote]ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS SAYS IT ALL SCRUFF......I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE A CRETIN...."ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS2......[/p][/quote]Alright ILOVECUMSHINE - just been allowed back into society have you? Or been lying low because of your team's sh1t performances? . See you next year, Oh sorry no doubt you will be one of those losers who won't be renewing by blaming Venkys when in reality you just don't want to watch Championship football. . Better go and protest about it - you scruffy fag did you smash it?

5:08pm Wed 9 May 12

FCBurnley says...

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
We have spent many years in the Top Flight of English Football but that is not the issue. Without Walkers money you would never have been in the Prem, let alone for 1 season. Lets see how many more seasons you spend there now that the cash has run out. Not a nice feeling to fall off Daddy`s Yacht is it ! If you are such a great club then I suggest you put all your money on an immediate return to the Prem @ 14/1
[quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]We have spent many years in the Top Flight of English Football but that is not the issue. Without Walkers money you would never have been in the Prem, let alone for 1 season. Lets see how many more seasons you spend there now that the cash has run out. Not a nice feeling to fall off Daddy`s Yacht is it ! If you are such a great club then I suggest you put all your money on an immediate return to the Prem @ 14/1 FCBurnley

5:10pm Wed 9 May 12

riversidefan says...

dallarover wrote:
Good article - but a few months too late. Its still difficult to understand what is in Venky's minds and what there plans are or were - the best I can come up with is that they were very badly advised that the club could be successful with no additional investment and when they've found out that isn't the case they just don't know what to do. The continuing support for Rat Face though continues to defy any logicial explanation - he will never be a good manager either in the Championship or any other league!
If the article was written several months ago it wouldn't have made any difference. When Desai even refuses to listen to a deputy-CEO, which she appointed, then she's not likely to listen to the LT. As it is the LT did come out last December demanding changes. Only the LT, and Andy Cryer inparticular, have defended the Rovers fans in the face of ignorant reports of 'vile abuse' by Rovers fans to 'dignified' Kean.
[quote][p][bold]dallarover[/bold] wrote: Good article - but a few months too late. Its still difficult to understand what is in Venky's minds and what there plans are or were - the best I can come up with is that they were very badly advised that the club could be successful with no additional investment and when they've found out that isn't the case they just don't know what to do. The continuing support for Rat Face though continues to defy any logicial explanation - he will never be a good manager either in the Championship or any other league![/p][/quote]If the article was written several months ago it wouldn't have made any difference. When Desai even refuses to listen to a deputy-CEO, which she appointed, then she's not likely to listen to the LT. As it is the LT did come out last December demanding changes. Only the LT, and Andy Cryer inparticular, have defended the Rovers fans in the face of ignorant reports of 'vile abuse' by Rovers fans to 'dignified' Kean. riversidefan

5:10pm Wed 9 May 12

Dukes says...

Great work Andy keep it up and venkys have really killed our club off and we want our club back one way the other.
Great work Andy keep it up and venkys have really killed our club off and we want our club back one way the other. Dukes

5:11pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

did you smash it? wrote:
NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote: The one thing that comes across when listening to and reading what B******d fans think is the massive feeling of entitlement. This God-given right to be in the premier league is just pure arrogance. Gary Neville said on monday before the game, "3 teams go down, whats so special about Blackburn?" And they just dont get it. They really arent as special as they think they are. Mark hughes wasnt good enough. Big Sam wasnt good enough. Roy Hodgson is good enough to manager of England, but wasnt good enough for the deluded! They fully believe that that "the London Based press dont want a northern team in the Prem and want west ham and southern teams in it" Middlesbourgh Sheff Wed Sheff Utd Leeds are all bigger, 3 of them have been in league 1! Jack Walkers money really went to their communal heads!! Dont get me wrong I wouldnt say no to a benefactor like Walker. BUT I'd like to think that I'd at least man-up and admit the money took us to a place that, without it, we wouldnt have been. Apparently, the Venkys didnt think you get relegated. Well it seems that the Bol-Ewood deluded STILL dont beleive it. The bottom line is this. You play Spurs and Wigan and dont have a single shot on target. YOU DESERVE TO GO DOWN. BURNLEY FC – GOT TO THE PREM ON MERIT. CAME DOWN, NOT ‘COS OF THE LONDON BASED PRESS, THE MANAGER, THE CHAIRMAN, THE BACKROOM STAFF. COS WE WEREN’T GOOD ENOUGH
ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS SAYS IT ALL SCRUFF......I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE A CRETIN...."ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS2......
Alright ILOVECUMSHINE - just been allowed back into society have you? Or been lying low because of your team's sh1t performances? . See you next year, Oh sorry no doubt you will be one of those losers who won't be renewing by blaming Venkys when in reality you just don't want to watch Championship football. . Better go and protest about it - you scruffy fag
Did you smash what?

The blockade on the Shankill?
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: The one thing that comes across when listening to and reading what B******d fans think is the massive feeling of entitlement. This God-given right to be in the premier league is just pure arrogance. Gary Neville said on monday before the game, "3 teams go down, whats so special about Blackburn?" And they just dont get it. They really arent as special as they think they are. Mark hughes wasnt good enough. Big Sam wasnt good enough. Roy Hodgson is good enough to manager of England, but wasnt good enough for the deluded! They fully believe that that "the London Based press dont want a northern team in the Prem and want west ham and southern teams in it" Middlesbourgh Sheff Wed Sheff Utd Leeds are all bigger, 3 of them have been in league 1! Jack Walkers money really went to their communal heads!! Dont get me wrong I wouldnt say no to a benefactor like Walker. BUT I'd like to think that I'd at least man-up and admit the money took us to a place that, without it, we wouldnt have been. Apparently, the Venkys didnt think you get relegated. Well it seems that the Bol-Ewood deluded STILL dont beleive it. The bottom line is this. You play Spurs and Wigan and dont have a single shot on target. YOU DESERVE TO GO DOWN. BURNLEY FC – GOT TO THE PREM ON MERIT. CAME DOWN, NOT ‘COS OF THE LONDON BASED PRESS, THE MANAGER, THE CHAIRMAN, THE BACKROOM STAFF. COS WE WEREN’T GOOD ENOUGH[/p][/quote]ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS SAYS IT ALL SCRUFF......I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE A CRETIN...."ONE SEASON AND 34 YEARS2......[/p][/quote]Alright ILOVECUMSHINE - just been allowed back into society have you? Or been lying low because of your team's sh1t performances? . See you next year, Oh sorry no doubt you will be one of those losers who won't be renewing by blaming Venkys when in reality you just don't want to watch Championship football. . Better go and protest about it - you scruffy fag[/p][/quote]Did you smash what? The blockade on the Shankill? makaveli96

5:12pm Wed 9 May 12

bobinspain says...

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
As usual NOS you attempt to traduce a perfectly rational comment.
You need to grow up!
[quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]As usual NOS you attempt to traduce a perfectly rational comment. You need to grow up! bobinspain

5:13pm Wed 9 May 12

Kiltedjock says...

Come on Andy. In the next episode tell the whole story!!
You like most supporters know that there is even more to this than what's posted here!!
Come on Andy. In the next episode tell the whole story!! You like most supporters know that there is even more to this than what's posted here!! Kiltedjock

5:13pm Wed 9 May 12

Kiltedjock says...

Come on Andy. In the next episode tell the whole story!!
You like most supporters know that there is even more to this than what's posted here!!
Come on Andy. In the next episode tell the whole story!! You like most supporters know that there is even more to this than what's posted here!! Kiltedjock

5:16pm Wed 9 May 12

vicn1956 says...

Where did it all go wrong for Rovers? The second The Walkers signed the club over to them!
My son said on first sight of them- "Pirates." How right he was.
Where did it all go wrong for Rovers? The second The Walkers signed the club over to them! My son said on first sight of them- "Pirates." How right he was. vicn1956

5:16pm Wed 9 May 12

Teal says...

I am astounded by Steve Kean's belief in his own ability in the face of so many fans (and the facts) telling him he isn't doing the job. That isn't dignity, it's something else very odd. He has consistently refused to be honest, or to apologise or to admit anything is wrong, and given his latest statement in spite of everything I am beginning to question what goes on in his head. There comes a point where you bow out, whether you think you are the man for the job or not.
None of this 'dignity' stuff adds up given the things that have been said and his close relationship with Venkys, when you consider the board were completely cut out of managing a club they have a legal responsibility for. How could he stand by?? All that being the case, sympathy for him suffering 'abuse' is misplaced. If he is a good guy in a difficult situation then he should step down and speak his mind.

There have been a catalogue of decisions from bad, through bizarre to completely shocking. What has gone on with the board, the loss of players, the behaviour of the owners is equally bizarre and inexplicable.
No supporter believes they deserve to be in the top flight any more than other teams in it, in fact most on recent performances don't believe we deserve to be in the top flight. What they want, is answers. What they want is to know why this is happening and what is going on to cause the situation they are now in. Someone has to stand up and be counted. Who is it going to be?
I am astounded by Steve Kean's belief in his own ability in the face of so many fans (and the facts) telling him he isn't doing the job. That isn't dignity, it's something else very odd. He has consistently refused to be honest, or to apologise or to admit anything is wrong, and given his latest statement in spite of everything I am beginning to question what goes on in his head. There comes a point where you bow out, whether you think you are the man for the job or not. None of this 'dignity' stuff adds up given the things that have been said and his close relationship with Venkys, when you consider the board were completely cut out of managing a club they have a legal responsibility for. How could he stand by?? All that being the case, sympathy for him suffering 'abuse' is misplaced. If he is a good guy in a difficult situation then he should step down and speak his mind. There have been a catalogue of decisions from bad, through bizarre to completely shocking. What has gone on with the board, the loss of players, the behaviour of the owners is equally bizarre and inexplicable. No supporter believes they deserve to be in the top flight any more than other teams in it, in fact most on recent performances don't believe we deserve to be in the top flight. What they want, is answers. What they want is to know why this is happening and what is going on to cause the situation they are now in. Someone has to stand up and be counted. Who is it going to be? Teal

5:16pm Wed 9 May 12

hasslem hasslem says...

has agnew been appointed CEO yet? or will that be after the crisis talks after stamford bridge.
has agnew been appointed CEO yet? or will that be after the crisis talks after stamford bridge. hasslem hasslem

5:19pm Wed 9 May 12

vicn1956 says...

Heard a sorry from kean yet to the 1%
Heard a sorry from kean yet to the 1% vicn1956

5:20pm Wed 9 May 12

vicn1956 says...

GET REAL Dunn-it's very quiet. You had a lot to say a few months ago!
GET REAL Dunn-it's very quiet. You had a lot to say a few months ago! vicn1956

5:23pm Wed 9 May 12

vicn1956 says...

Get down to Ewood tonight- the 2013-2014 Division 1 side are on view.
Get down to Ewood tonight- the 2013-2014 Division 1 side are on view. vicn1956

5:23pm Wed 9 May 12

did you smash it? says...

bobinspain wrote:
NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
As usual NOS you attempt to traduce a perfectly rational comment.
You need to grow up!
Don't sweat it Bob - outwitting ILOVECUMSHINE is literally like shooting Chickens in a barrel
[quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]As usual NOS you attempt to traduce a perfectly rational comment. You need to grow up![/p][/quote]Don't sweat it Bob - outwitting ILOVECUMSHINE is literally like shooting Chickens in a barrel did you smash it?

5:25pm Wed 9 May 12

NewtownRover says...

On the BBC web site. Blackburn boss Steve Kean says: "I still have dressing room" & reiterates he & owners Venky's are "here for long term".
The mind boggles.
On the BBC web site. Blackburn boss Steve Kean says: "I still have dressing room" & reiterates he & owners Venky's are "here for long term". The mind boggles. NewtownRover

5:25pm Wed 9 May 12

burnleyglentoran says...

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
In ya shadows!?!

Wakey wakey! Championship- Hello!

Ya not in Kansas now Toto!!!!

WE DARED TO DREAM
ALONG CAME KEAN
[quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]In ya shadows!?! Wakey wakey! Championship- Hello! Ya not in Kansas now Toto!!!! WE DARED TO DREAM ALONG CAME KEAN burnleyglentoran

5:28pm Wed 9 May 12

Rory257 says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter. Rory257

5:31pm Wed 9 May 12

jayt says...

They say that "before you condemn him, walk a mile in a man's shoes.....". Sorry, Andy, can't do that - I've never been a sports journalist. Nonetheless - and I want to say this in a much less offensive tone than that used by so many Rovers fans this last few days - I do find it hard to stomach a second "tell it like it is" article by you in the same week. I'm sure that the risk of a local reporter's access to "inside"information being compromised is never far from his mind when tough words have to be written. However its seemed that throughout this dreadful chapter in the Rovers' history you've constantly erred on the side of caution. Did this bring about Rovers' relegation? Unlikely, of course. Should you have routinely been swept away by the criticisms of your readers? Again of course not; your job is to bring perspective and balance to the debate. But, looking back, its hard to find much evidence this last 9 months of any real willingness on your part to "tell it like it (really) is"! The forums that followed your articles, through no initial fault of your own, inevitably attracted way too many foul-mouthed, intemperate, ill-conceived, wholly negative, and essentially ignorant "rants". But surely, as things grew worse and worse, you had to have reached a point where self-preservation ought to have taken second place to saying what simply had to be said? That just never seems to have happened. For many fans/readers that ultimately appears to have rubbed salt painfully and unnecessarily into their wounds - and that includes the "good guys" every bit as much as it does the evident bigots. I honestly don't think I'm "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" here. I think you need to reflect seriously, now, on a season's journalism that can't be saved, this late in the day, by a couple of articles of the sort that were needed weeks or months ago. And, no, I'm not saying you should take your talents elsewhere. Just please do promise yourself and your readers, that next season you'll BEGIN with honest and tough messages to the owners, directors, manager, coaches and players. That way you'll carry your readership with you and - who knows - even perhaps contribute to a necessary but by no means guaranteed recovery by the club that so many of us care for so much.
They say that "before you condemn him, walk a mile in a man's shoes.....". Sorry, Andy, can't do that - I've never been a sports journalist. Nonetheless - and I want to say this in a much less offensive tone than that used by so many Rovers fans this last few days - I do find it hard to stomach a second "tell it like it is" article by you in the same week. I'm sure that the risk of a local reporter's access to "inside"information being compromised is never far from his mind when tough words have to be written. However its seemed that throughout this dreadful chapter in the Rovers' history you've constantly erred on the side of caution. Did this bring about Rovers' relegation? Unlikely, of course. Should you have routinely been swept away by the criticisms of your readers? Again of course not; your job is to bring perspective and balance to the debate. But, looking back, its hard to find much evidence this last 9 months of any real willingness on your part to "tell it like it (really) is"! The forums that followed your articles, through no initial fault of your own, inevitably attracted way too many foul-mouthed, intemperate, ill-conceived, wholly negative, and essentially ignorant "rants". But surely, as things grew worse and worse, you had to have reached a point where self-preservation ought to have taken second place to saying what simply had to be said? That just never seems to have happened. For many fans/readers that ultimately appears to have rubbed salt painfully and unnecessarily into their wounds - and that includes the "good guys" every bit as much as it does the evident bigots. I honestly don't think I'm "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" here. I think you need to reflect seriously, now, on a season's journalism that can't be saved, this late in the day, by a couple of articles of the sort that were needed weeks or months ago. And, no, I'm not saying you should take your talents elsewhere. Just please do promise yourself and your readers, that next season you'll BEGIN with honest and tough messages to the owners, directors, manager, coaches and players. That way you'll carry your readership with you and - who knows - even perhaps contribute to a necessary but by no means guaranteed recovery by the club that so many of us care for so much. jayt

5:33pm Wed 9 May 12

did you smash it? says...

Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
What you say is a fair point and under normal circumstances I would agree with you, except for the continued vitriol and pi55 taking that Blackburn fans have rained down on us Clarets during our PL season and before - talking about 34 years, Agent Laws, Having parties when we go down etc etc.
.
Karma is indeed a b1tch my friend
[quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]What you say is a fair point and under normal circumstances I would agree with you, except for the continued vitriol and pi55 taking that Blackburn fans have rained down on us Clarets during our PL season and before - talking about 34 years, Agent Laws, Having parties when we go down etc etc. . Karma is indeed a b1tch my friend did you smash it?

5:37pm Wed 9 May 12

madari says...

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
Madari the snake charmer says:

Nice one **** shine...just one thing to say.....Dont forget the curse of the madari is all but working well !!!!hahahahaha!!see you alla at the Turf!!! cant wait!!hahahaha!!!
[quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Nice one **** shine...just one thing to say.....Dont forget the curse of the madari is all but working well !!!!hahahahaha!!see you alla at the Turf!!! cant wait!!hahahaha!!! madari

5:42pm Wed 9 May 12

noddymcleod says...

...well Andy it all went wrong when you and the other dozy staff at the LET didn't ask any questions and didn't use any of your resources and contacts to do some decent digging, and then you started printing uncritically all the PR garbage from Venkys and Kean...then when clearly things were wrong you **** footed around and when Venkys gave you two fingers you shut up, and continued to print all the garbage Kean issued, then when everything was lost you ran the "true story" which might have had some redressing effect if published months earlier, you let other in the media and on this site do the digging for you, and now you've joined the hunting pack.. too late...too late...
...well Andy it all went wrong when you and the other dozy staff at the LET didn't ask any questions and didn't use any of your resources and contacts to do some decent digging, and then you started printing uncritically all the PR garbage from Venkys and Kean...then when clearly things were wrong you **** footed around and when Venkys gave you two fingers you shut up, and continued to print all the garbage Kean issued, then when everything was lost you ran the "true story" which might have had some redressing effect if published months earlier, you let other in the media and on this site do the digging for you, and now you've joined the hunting pack.. too late...too late... noddymcleod

5:43pm Wed 9 May 12

lusorover says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
In ya shadows!?!

Wakey wakey! Championship- Hello!

Ya not in Kansas now Toto!!!!

WE DARED TO DREAM
ALONG CAME KEAN
Nothing worthy of discussion on the Clarets' page then?

Usual state-of-affairs then.
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]In ya shadows!?! Wakey wakey! Championship- Hello! Ya not in Kansas now Toto!!!! WE DARED TO DREAM ALONG CAME KEAN[/p][/quote]Nothing worthy of discussion on the Clarets' page then? Usual state-of-affairs then. lusorover

5:44pm Wed 9 May 12

Rory257 says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
What you say is a fair point and under normal circumstances I would agree with you, except for the continued vitriol and pi55 taking that Blackburn fans have rained down on us Clarets during our PL season and before - talking about 34 years, Agent Laws, Having parties when we go down etc etc.
.
Karma is indeed a b1tch my friend
Not got a problem at all with the pi55-take. Laws was pretty hilarious and your demise from the PL was enjoyed by all. In turn, I imagine you relished our fall from grace under Kidd and delighted in Ince's reign. This, however, goes so much further than that. By all means, celebrate our relegation with parties, but don't for a minute suggest that the fans deserved this, because no fans from any club deserve to be in the position that we are now.
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]What you say is a fair point and under normal circumstances I would agree with you, except for the continued vitriol and pi55 taking that Blackburn fans have rained down on us Clarets during our PL season and before - talking about 34 years, Agent Laws, Having parties when we go down etc etc. . Karma is indeed a b1tch my friend[/p][/quote]Not got a problem at all with the pi55-take. Laws was pretty hilarious and your demise from the PL was enjoyed by all. In turn, I imagine you relished our fall from grace under Kidd and delighted in Ince's reign. This, however, goes so much further than that. By all means, celebrate our relegation with parties, but don't for a minute suggest that the fans deserved this, because no fans from any club deserve to be in the position that we are now. Rory257

5:44pm Wed 9 May 12

craftandgraft says...

Can anyone get me a list of ST holders?

40% redundancies at Ewood are just around the corner.

Arte et Labore
Can anyone get me a list of ST holders? 40% redundancies at Ewood are just around the corner. Arte et Labore craftandgraft

5:46pm Wed 9 May 12

Top10StillOn says...

Just a couple of quotes from a LET story on 24/11/10 (five days after takeover). I could spend all evening cut/pasting suchs comments which, as many realised at the time, have now been shown to be utter crap.

Desai also said that Rovers are ‘no longer a selling club’ and said she is looking forward to a bright future that will see them moving up the Premier League and challenging for trophies.

Venky’s finally completed a £23million takeover of the club on Friday, bringing to an end the Jack Walker era.

She said: “I am going to speak to the manager soon and tell him that the fans’ opinions are very important.

“I am now really looking forward to coming over and watching some matches.

“My brothers will be coming more often.

“We want to know what is happening and we will be there to watch one match in every five or six.
Just a couple of quotes from a LET story on 24/11/10 (five days after takeover). I could spend all evening cut/pasting suchs comments which, as many realised at the time, have now been shown to be utter crap. Desai also said that Rovers are ‘no longer a selling club’ and said she is looking forward to a bright future that will see them moving up the Premier League and challenging for trophies. Venky’s finally completed a £23million takeover of the club on Friday, bringing to an end the Jack Walker era. She said: “I am going to speak to the manager soon and tell him that the fans’ opinions are very important. “I am now really looking forward to coming over and watching some matches. “My brothers will be coming more often. “We want to know what is happening and we will be there to watch one match in every five or six. Top10StillOn

5:47pm Wed 9 May 12

Gaz M says...

Too little too late telegraph as per ,and still afraid of the big bad Anderson it seems gutless!
Too little too late telegraph as per ,and still afraid of the big bad Anderson it seems gutless! Gaz M

5:47pm Wed 9 May 12

givet82 says...

dingles please if u have half a brain put a constructive critism on not the usual bull it's proper getting boring as for rover's IF we get a good manager im slighlty looking forward to the championship,we need to get the likes of roberts back and also thing goodwillie will shine in that division as fot the so called "stars" like n'zonzi,olssons,robb
o,hoilett and dann please go if u really want RTID p.s the derby will be fun!!!
dingles please if u have half a brain put a constructive critism on not the usual bull it's proper getting boring as for rover's IF we get a good manager im slighlty looking forward to the championship,we need to get the likes of roberts back and also thing goodwillie will shine in that division as fot the so called "stars" like n'zonzi,olssons,robb o,hoilett and dann please go if u really want RTID p.s the derby will be fun!!! givet82

5:49pm Wed 9 May 12

Brfc24138931 says...

Hope the venkeys are at the bridge, as I will along with others giving the verbals they deserve. You are a disgrace to the Indian nation. I don't care what league we play in as long we have decent owners, directors and a manager who doesn't lie to the world week after week, and of course all players that want to play for us.
Hope the venkeys are at the bridge, as I will along with others giving the verbals they deserve. You are a disgrace to the Indian nation. I don't care what league we play in as long we have decent owners, directors and a manager who doesn't lie to the world week after week, and of course all players that want to play for us. Brfc24138931

5:51pm Wed 9 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

Rory257 wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
What you say is a fair point and under normal circumstances I would agree with you, except for the continued vitriol and pi55 taking that Blackburn fans have rained down on us Clarets during our PL season and before - talking about 34 years, Agent Laws, Having parties when we go down etc etc.
.
Karma is indeed a b1tch my friend
Not got a problem at all with the pi55-take. Laws was pretty hilarious and your demise from the PL was enjoyed by all. In turn, I imagine you relished our fall from grace under Kidd and delighted in Ince's reign. This, however, goes so much further than that. By all means, celebrate our relegation with parties, but don't for a minute suggest that the fans deserved this, because no fans from any club deserve to be in the position that we are now.
You Burnley fans taking the micky, have you really contemplated a situation with no Blackburn Rovers? Your whole season has been centred on our demise. When we were in the same league, your whole season was centred on our fixtures. Its okay having banter and I understand why but to hope we go out of business seems to me to be cutting off your noses to spite your faces for the obvious reasons. No fans of any club deserve to be treated like this. We all pay our money and we expect honesty. I wouldnt be upset to be in the conference now if we could rid our club of Venkys and Kean. I would stand at Turf Moor in my Rovers shirt if it would guarantee their removal. How would that go down?
[quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]What you say is a fair point and under normal circumstances I would agree with you, except for the continued vitriol and pi55 taking that Blackburn fans have rained down on us Clarets during our PL season and before - talking about 34 years, Agent Laws, Having parties when we go down etc etc. . Karma is indeed a b1tch my friend[/p][/quote]Not got a problem at all with the pi55-take. Laws was pretty hilarious and your demise from the PL was enjoyed by all. In turn, I imagine you relished our fall from grace under Kidd and delighted in Ince's reign. This, however, goes so much further than that. By all means, celebrate our relegation with parties, but don't for a minute suggest that the fans deserved this, because no fans from any club deserve to be in the position that we are now.[/p][/quote]You Burnley fans taking the micky, have you really contemplated a situation with no Blackburn Rovers? Your whole season has been centred on our demise. When we were in the same league, your whole season was centred on our fixtures. Its okay having banter and I understand why but to hope we go out of business seems to me to be cutting off your noses to spite your faces for the obvious reasons. No fans of any club deserve to be treated like this. We all pay our money and we expect honesty. I wouldnt be upset to be in the conference now if we could rid our club of Venkys and Kean. I would stand at Turf Moor in my Rovers shirt if it would guarantee their removal. How would that go down? merlinrabbit

5:51pm Wed 9 May 12

FCBurnley says...

Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
[quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals. FCBurnley

6:10pm Wed 9 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
You are completely wrong. Everybody isnt laughing. The majority are intelligent enough to see the implications and are actually fans of football. You lot arent. The only amusement I had when your club was relegated was the expected but by the day after, I had little interest. It was normal rivalry. Yours is borne from something much deeper and is abnormal. It over-rides all rational behaviour
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]You are completely wrong. Everybody isnt laughing. The majority are intelligent enough to see the implications and are actually fans of football. You lot arent. The only amusement I had when your club was relegated was the expected but by the day after, I had little interest. It was normal rivalry. Yours is borne from something much deeper and is abnormal. It over-rides all rational behaviour merlinrabbit

6:13pm Wed 9 May 12

3bricks says...

Quite a few remarks from the dingles,when was the last time they beat us anybody under about 32 will not remember for sure.Now after the leaked e-mail kean"s job is now untenable,so lets have administration venkys and kean given the boot and start again.Soon overtake the dingles.
Quite a few remarks from the dingles,when was the last time they beat us anybody under about 32 will not remember for sure.Now after the leaked e-mail kean"s job is now untenable,so lets have administration venkys and kean given the boot and start again.Soon overtake the dingles. 3bricks

6:13pm Wed 9 May 12

Rory257 says...

I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice.

When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.
I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice. When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop. Rory257

6:15pm Wed 9 May 12

Rory257 says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice.

When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice. When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop. Rory257

6:20pm Wed 9 May 12

mellorb&w says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Good points Andy but Steve Kean might be a nice guy? Are you for real? He is a devious little worm who can only be surviving because he is in on the whole sorry situation. If he had a tail he would be a fox. I cannot bear to listen to him any longer. Get a knot in my stomach. It feels like we have a master con man at the helm. He is useless at managing football but a brilliant at manipualtion
Had it from a good source that there was a bust up in the changing room at half time between Kean and N'Zonzi about Olsson going on for Dunn instead of N'Zonzi which would have been the obvious substitution. Givet got involved in a heated exchange with Kean and that's why he was subbed. Why have none of the players got the balls to come clean and tell the truth rather than let him get away with first saying it was a heart condition and then a hamstring. I've had no medical training but I'm sure I would have known the difference. As I see it they all eat out of the same trough and none of them wants to be tagged as a whistle blower in case it affects their future career.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: Good points Andy but Steve Kean might be a nice guy? Are you for real? He is a devious little worm who can only be surviving because he is in on the whole sorry situation. If he had a tail he would be a fox. I cannot bear to listen to him any longer. Get a knot in my stomach. It feels like we have a master con man at the helm. He is useless at managing football but a brilliant at manipualtion[/p][/quote]Had it from a good source that there was a bust up in the changing room at half time between Kean and N'Zonzi about Olsson going on for Dunn instead of N'Zonzi which would have been the obvious substitution. Givet got involved in a heated exchange with Kean and that's why he was subbed. Why have none of the players got the balls to come clean and tell the truth rather than let him get away with first saying it was a heart condition and then a hamstring. I've had no medical training but I'm sure I would have known the difference. As I see it they all eat out of the same trough and none of them wants to be tagged as a whistle blower in case it affects their future career. mellorb&w

6:33pm Wed 9 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

mellorb&w wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Good points Andy but Steve Kean might be a nice guy? Are you for real? He is a devious little worm who can only be surviving because he is in on the whole sorry situation. If he had a tail he would be a fox. I cannot bear to listen to him any longer. Get a knot in my stomach. It feels like we have a master con man at the helm. He is useless at managing football but a brilliant at manipualtion
Had it from a good source that there was a bust up in the changing room at half time between Kean and N'Zonzi about Olsson going on for Dunn instead of N'Zonzi which would have been the obvious substitution. Givet got involved in a heated exchange with Kean and that's why he was subbed. Why have none of the players got the balls to come clean and tell the truth rather than let him get away with first saying it was a heart condition and then a hamstring. I've had no medical training but I'm sure I would have known the difference. As I see it they all eat out of the same trough and none of them wants to be tagged as a whistle blower in case it affects their future career.
That is what I suspected. An arguement. I couldnt understand either how a heart could get mixed with a hamstring and Givet looked perfectly okay, didnt even have an ice pack on or limping. You dont call all the players back because somebody has tweaked their hamstring. It stinks. I get the feeling Robbo might blow the whistle if he moves on
[quote][p][bold]mellorb&w[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: Good points Andy but Steve Kean might be a nice guy? Are you for real? He is a devious little worm who can only be surviving because he is in on the whole sorry situation. If he had a tail he would be a fox. I cannot bear to listen to him any longer. Get a knot in my stomach. It feels like we have a master con man at the helm. He is useless at managing football but a brilliant at manipualtion[/p][/quote]Had it from a good source that there was a bust up in the changing room at half time between Kean and N'Zonzi about Olsson going on for Dunn instead of N'Zonzi which would have been the obvious substitution. Givet got involved in a heated exchange with Kean and that's why he was subbed. Why have none of the players got the balls to come clean and tell the truth rather than let him get away with first saying it was a heart condition and then a hamstring. I've had no medical training but I'm sure I would have known the difference. As I see it they all eat out of the same trough and none of them wants to be tagged as a whistle blower in case it affects their future career.[/p][/quote]That is what I suspected. An arguement. I couldnt understand either how a heart could get mixed with a hamstring and Givet looked perfectly okay, didnt even have an ice pack on or limping. You dont call all the players back because somebody has tweaked their hamstring. It stinks. I get the feeling Robbo might blow the whistle if he moves on merlinrabbit

6:35pm Wed 9 May 12

hasslem hasslem says...

for the first time in my life - i want rovers to lose at the weekend.......no, incorrect, i want to see them get hammered, really massively taken to the cleaners.....a premiership scoring record for chelsea 10-0, 15-0 or even 20-0.
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then lets see how kean and desai get on in the crisis meeting.
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nobody at club...kean agnew or venkys will confirm hunt's departure. WHY NOT?????....surely it is not that difficult a question to answer.
for the first time in my life - i want rovers to lose at the weekend.......no, incorrect, i want to see them get hammered, really massively taken to the cleaners.....a premiership scoring record for chelsea 10-0, 15-0 or even 20-0. . then lets see how kean and desai get on in the crisis meeting. . nobody at club...kean agnew or venkys will confirm hunt's departure. WHY NOT?????....surely it is not that difficult a question to answer. hasslem hasslem

6:41pm Wed 9 May 12

mellorb&w says...

As far as I know this is now fairly common knowledge so how come Andy Cryer hasn't challenged Kean on his version of events. I'm afraid there is no short term solution to this and when the dust settles Kean and Venkys and whoever else has a controlling interest in the Club will still be standing. It's away matches only for me next season.
As far as I know this is now fairly common knowledge so how come Andy Cryer hasn't challenged Kean on his version of events. I'm afraid there is no short term solution to this and when the dust settles Kean and Venkys and whoever else has a controlling interest in the Club will still be standing. It's away matches only for me next season. mellorb&w

6:45pm Wed 9 May 12

petestan says...

jayt wrote:
They say that "before you condemn him, walk a mile in a man's shoes.....". Sorry, Andy, can't do that - I've never been a sports journalist. Nonetheless - and I want to say this in a much less offensive tone than that used by so many Rovers fans this last few days - I do find it hard to stomach a second "tell it like it is" article by you in the same week. I'm sure that the risk of a local reporter's access to "inside"information being compromised is never far from his mind when tough words have to be written. However its seemed that throughout this dreadful chapter in the Rovers' history you've constantly erred on the side of caution. Did this bring about Rovers' relegation? Unlikely, of course. Should you have routinely been swept away by the criticisms of your readers? Again of course not; your job is to bring perspective and balance to the debate. But, looking back, its hard to find much evidence this last 9 months of any real willingness on your part to "tell it like it (really) is"! The forums that followed your articles, through no initial fault of your own, inevitably attracted way too many foul-mouthed, intemperate, ill-conceived, wholly negative, and essentially ignorant "rants". But surely, as things grew worse and worse, you had to have reached a point where self-preservation ought to have taken second place to saying what simply had to be said? That just never seems to have happened. For many fans/readers that ultimately appears to have rubbed salt painfully and unnecessarily into their wounds - and that includes the "good guys" every bit as much as it does the evident bigots. I honestly don't think I'm "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" here. I think you need to reflect seriously, now, on a season's journalism that can't be saved, this late in the day, by a couple of articles of the sort that were needed weeks or months ago. And, no, I'm not saying you should take your talents elsewhere. Just please do promise yourself and your readers, that next season you'll BEGIN with honest and tough messages to the owners, directors, manager, coaches and players. That way you'll carry your readership with you and - who knows - even perhaps contribute to a necessary but by no means guaranteed recovery by the club that so many of us care for so much.
Oh come on, at the end of the day he writes for a LOCAL paper not one of the National's so he has to be VERY cautious about what he writes because, as we have seen from Anderson, a local paper is a lot easier to threaten than a national one. The telegraph could stop all comments below their articles if they wanted there is nothing to say they have to allow them. He writes what he can when he can and unlike the national's he has to have proof / confirmation before he can write anything.

The Lancs Telegraph was the 1st paper to call for Kean's head and has been on the fan's side through out unlike the vast majority of the national's who are only now starting to come round to it when it's to late.
[quote][p][bold]jayt[/bold] wrote: They say that "before you condemn him, walk a mile in a man's shoes.....". Sorry, Andy, can't do that - I've never been a sports journalist. Nonetheless - and I want to say this in a much less offensive tone than that used by so many Rovers fans this last few days - I do find it hard to stomach a second "tell it like it is" article by you in the same week. I'm sure that the risk of a local reporter's access to "inside"information being compromised is never far from his mind when tough words have to be written. However its seemed that throughout this dreadful chapter in the Rovers' history you've constantly erred on the side of caution. Did this bring about Rovers' relegation? Unlikely, of course. Should you have routinely been swept away by the criticisms of your readers? Again of course not; your job is to bring perspective and balance to the debate. But, looking back, its hard to find much evidence this last 9 months of any real willingness on your part to "tell it like it (really) is"! The forums that followed your articles, through no initial fault of your own, inevitably attracted way too many foul-mouthed, intemperate, ill-conceived, wholly negative, and essentially ignorant "rants". But surely, as things grew worse and worse, you had to have reached a point where self-preservation ought to have taken second place to saying what simply had to be said? That just never seems to have happened. For many fans/readers that ultimately appears to have rubbed salt painfully and unnecessarily into their wounds - and that includes the "good guys" every bit as much as it does the evident bigots. I honestly don't think I'm "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" here. I think you need to reflect seriously, now, on a season's journalism that can't be saved, this late in the day, by a couple of articles of the sort that were needed weeks or months ago. And, no, I'm not saying you should take your talents elsewhere. Just please do promise yourself and your readers, that next season you'll BEGIN with honest and tough messages to the owners, directors, manager, coaches and players. That way you'll carry your readership with you and - who knows - even perhaps contribute to a necessary but by no means guaranteed recovery by the club that so many of us care for so much.[/p][/quote]Oh come on, at the end of the day he writes for a LOCAL paper not one of the National's so he has to be VERY cautious about what he writes because, as we have seen from Anderson, a local paper is a lot easier to threaten than a national one. The telegraph could stop all comments below their articles if they wanted there is nothing to say they have to allow them. He writes what he can when he can and unlike the national's he has to have proof / confirmation before he can write anything. The Lancs Telegraph was the 1st paper to call for Kean's head and has been on the fan's side through out unlike the vast majority of the national's who are only now starting to come round to it when it's to late. petestan

6:47pm Wed 9 May 12

petestan says...

mellorb&w wrote:
As far as I know this is now fairly common knowledge so how come Andy Cryer hasn't challenged Kean on his version of events. I'm afraid there is no short term solution to this and when the dust settles Kean and Venkys and whoever else has a controlling interest in the Club will still be standing. It's away matches only for me next season.
He has challenged Kean but Kean simply denies it or comes out with his usual bull... as we all know, so what can he do without proof?
[quote][p][bold]mellorb&w[/bold] wrote: As far as I know this is now fairly common knowledge so how come Andy Cryer hasn't challenged Kean on his version of events. I'm afraid there is no short term solution to this and when the dust settles Kean and Venkys and whoever else has a controlling interest in the Club will still be standing. It's away matches only for me next season.[/p][/quote]He has challenged Kean but Kean simply denies it or comes out with his usual bull... as we all know, so what can he do without proof? petestan

6:50pm Wed 9 May 12

mellorb&w says...

petestan wrote:
mellorb&w wrote: As far as I know this is now fairly common knowledge so how come Andy Cryer hasn't challenged Kean on his version of events. I'm afraid there is no short term solution to this and when the dust settles Kean and Venkys and whoever else has a controlling interest in the Club will still be standing. It's away matches only for me next season.
He has challenged Kean but Kean simply denies it or comes out with his usual bull... as we all know, so what can he do without proof?
Fair enough but I was talking specificaly about the Givet substitution. If he did ask him I must have missed it.
[quote][p][bold]petestan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellorb&w[/bold] wrote: As far as I know this is now fairly common knowledge so how come Andy Cryer hasn't challenged Kean on his version of events. I'm afraid there is no short term solution to this and when the dust settles Kean and Venkys and whoever else has a controlling interest in the Club will still be standing. It's away matches only for me next season.[/p][/quote]He has challenged Kean but Kean simply denies it or comes out with his usual bull... as we all know, so what can he do without proof?[/p][/quote]Fair enough but I was talking specificaly about the Givet substitution. If he did ask him I must have missed it. mellorb&w

6:58pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

Stone Island. wrote:
Why was my comment removed?
My SPOT comment was to!
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island.[/bold] wrote: Why was my comment removed?[/p][/quote]My SPOT comment was to! makaveli96

6:59pm Wed 9 May 12

Final word says...

did you smash it? wrote:
People talk about the sacking of Sam Allardyce being a bad thing, but what people forget is that 90% of Blackburn fans wanted Venkys to remove BFS from his position at that time, and some fans were extremely vocal about his hoof-ball tactics etc.
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Just goes to show be careful what you wish for - Blackburn would NEVER have been relegated under Allardyce, OK the football may have been dire, but believe me it will be worse next year against the likes of Peterborough and Barnsley.
Where did you get 90% from? Your starting to sound like Steve
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: People talk about the sacking of Sam Allardyce being a bad thing, but what people forget is that 90% of Blackburn fans wanted Venkys to remove BFS from his position at that time, and some fans were extremely vocal about his hoof-ball tactics etc. . Just goes to show be careful what you wish for - Blackburn would NEVER have been relegated under Allardyce, OK the football may have been dire, but believe me it will be worse next year against the likes of Peterborough and Barnsley.[/p][/quote]Where did you get 90% from? Your starting to sound like Steve Final word

7:01pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

Gaz M wrote:
Too little too late telegraph as per ,and still afraid of the big bad Anderson it seems gutless!
And after all my grandad did for them!
[quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: Too little too late telegraph as per ,and still afraid of the big bad Anderson it seems gutless![/p][/quote]And after all my grandad did for them! makaveli96

7:10pm Wed 9 May 12

FCBurnley says...

Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice.

When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.
I accept some of what you say but, when you support a team it is unconditional warts and all. The vast majority of current Rovers fans only became fans during the Walker era and barring a couple of seasons they have been rewarded with PL football.
It is 25 years almost to the day that Burnley played and beat Orient to stay in the Football League. I can assure you that compared to that day your problems are miniscule. Accrington Stanley went bankrupt in 1962 and took until recently to fight their way back in the FL.
Certainly during our dark days of 25 years ago we received nothing but vile abuse from 99% of Rovers fans.
If you are old enough to remember the late fifties and 60`s you will know that Burnley were the vastly superior of the 2 east lancs clubs. The 90`s to date has been Blackburns time. Next season may or may not see the power swing back in Burnleys favour. Whatever happens I will be a Claret and I suspect you will always be a Blue.
You talk about the uncertainty surrounding your club. You have been relegated, thats all. Nobody has died, it happens to 3 clubs every season. If you dont agree how the club is being run, stay away and starve them of cash. Cash is the only reason they are there.
Hopefully Bolton will be joining us and Blackpool will stay down. Nothing against them but 6 local derbies a season sounds good to me.
[quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice. When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.[/p][/quote]I accept some of what you say but, when you support a team it is unconditional warts and all. The vast majority of current Rovers fans only became fans during the Walker era and barring a couple of seasons they have been rewarded with PL football. It is 25 years almost to the day that Burnley played and beat Orient to stay in the Football League. I can assure you that compared to that day your problems are miniscule. Accrington Stanley went bankrupt in 1962 and took until recently to fight their way back in the FL. Certainly during our dark days of 25 years ago we received nothing but vile abuse from 99% of Rovers fans. If you are old enough to remember the late fifties and 60`s you will know that Burnley were the vastly superior of the 2 east lancs clubs. The 90`s to date has been Blackburns time. Next season may or may not see the power swing back in Burnleys favour. Whatever happens I will be a Claret and I suspect you will always be a Blue. You talk about the uncertainty surrounding your club. You have been relegated, thats all. Nobody has died, it happens to 3 clubs every season. If you dont agree how the club is being run, stay away and starve them of cash. Cash is the only reason they are there. Hopefully Bolton will be joining us and Blackpool will stay down. Nothing against them but 6 local derbies a season sounds good to me. FCBurnley

7:14pm Wed 9 May 12

Iiii1111 says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
That might apply to you but don’t group everyone with your standards…..I’m a Rovers fan first and foremost after that I want all Lancashire clubs to do well….hope Blackpool get promoted will be supporting(not literally) Wigan in the prem next season….I even attended the Burnley v Leyton Orient games many years ago and I can honestly say I wanted Burnley to win so they would lose their football status…more fool me!…..Club hatreds don’t interest me, local clubs doing well does.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]That might apply to you but don’t group everyone with your standards…..I’m a Rovers fan first and foremost after that I want all Lancashire clubs to do well….hope Blackpool get promoted will be supporting(not literally) Wigan in the prem next season….I even attended the Burnley v Leyton Orient games many years ago and I can honestly say I wanted Burnley to win so they would lose their football status…more fool me!…..Club hatreds don’t interest me, local clubs doing well does. Iiii1111

7:16pm Wed 9 May 12

CARover says...

Teal wrote:
I am astounded by Steve Kean's belief in his own ability in the face of so many fans (and the facts) telling him he isn't doing the job. That isn't dignity, it's something else very odd. He has consistently refused to be honest, or to apologise or to admit anything is wrong, and given his latest statement in spite of everything I am beginning to question what goes on in his head. There comes a point where you bow out, whether you think you are the man for the job or not.
None of this 'dignity' stuff adds up given the things that have been said and his close relationship with Venkys, when you consider the board were completely cut out of managing a club they have a legal responsibility for. How could he stand by?? All that being the case, sympathy for him suffering 'abuse' is misplaced. If he is a good guy in a difficult situation then he should step down and speak his mind.

There have been a catalogue of decisions from bad, through bizarre to completely shocking. What has gone on with the board, the loss of players, the behaviour of the owners is equally bizarre and inexplicable.
No supporter believes they deserve to be in the top flight any more than other teams in it, in fact most on recent performances don't believe we deserve to be in the top flight. What they want, is answers. What they want is to know why this is happening and what is going on to cause the situation they are now in. Someone has to stand up and be counted. Who is it going to be?
Teal, he really has self-belief in what he says, sees and does, he must have drunk the cool aid somewhere as no one else believes what he says, sees or what he has done and this is proven by his dismal win lose record, so how he is this confident that he will be their next season baffles us all

Venky’s have made no comment on the situation which in its self is also puzzling, maybe relegation translates to champions in Hindu not sure

With Hunt gone I think this is only the start of what will be revealed about what has transpired over the last 18 months and at some point the truth will come out because it looks like there is going to be some infighting and self-distancing from what has gone on by the board and employees
[quote][p][bold]Teal[/bold] wrote: I am astounded by Steve Kean's belief in his own ability in the face of so many fans (and the facts) telling him he isn't doing the job. That isn't dignity, it's something else very odd. He has consistently refused to be honest, or to apologise or to admit anything is wrong, and given his latest statement in spite of everything I am beginning to question what goes on in his head. There comes a point where you bow out, whether you think you are the man for the job or not. None of this 'dignity' stuff adds up given the things that have been said and his close relationship with Venkys, when you consider the board were completely cut out of managing a club they have a legal responsibility for. How could he stand by?? All that being the case, sympathy for him suffering 'abuse' is misplaced. If he is a good guy in a difficult situation then he should step down and speak his mind. There have been a catalogue of decisions from bad, through bizarre to completely shocking. What has gone on with the board, the loss of players, the behaviour of the owners is equally bizarre and inexplicable. No supporter believes they deserve to be in the top flight any more than other teams in it, in fact most on recent performances don't believe we deserve to be in the top flight. What they want, is answers. What they want is to know why this is happening and what is going on to cause the situation they are now in. Someone has to stand up and be counted. Who is it going to be?[/p][/quote]Teal, he really has self-belief in what he says, sees and does, he must have drunk the cool aid somewhere as no one else believes what he says, sees or what he has done and this is proven by his dismal win lose record, so how he is this confident that he will be their next season baffles us all Venky’s have made no comment on the situation which in its self is also puzzling, maybe relegation translates to champions in Hindu not sure With Hunt gone I think this is only the start of what will be revealed about what has transpired over the last 18 months and at some point the truth will come out because it looks like there is going to be some infighting and self-distancing from what has gone on by the board and employees CARover

7:16pm Wed 9 May 12

Iiii1111 says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
That might apply to you but don’t group everyone with your standards…..I’m a Rovers fan first and foremost after that I want all Lancashire clubs to do well….hope Blackpool get promoted will be supporting(not literally) Wigan in the prem next season….I even attended the Burnley v Leyton Orient games many years ago and I can honestly say I wanted Burnley to win so they would lose their football status…more fool me!…..Club hatreds don’t interest me, local clubs doing well does.
*just couldn't get the words wouldn't out*
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]That might apply to you but don’t group everyone with your standards…..I’m a Rovers fan first and foremost after that I want all Lancashire clubs to do well….hope Blackpool get promoted will be supporting(not literally) Wigan in the prem next season….I even attended the Burnley v Leyton Orient games many years ago and I can honestly say I wanted Burnley to win so they would lose their football status…more fool me!…..Club hatreds don’t interest me, local clubs doing well does.[/p][/quote]*just couldn't get the words wouldn't out* Iiii1111

7:19pm Wed 9 May 12

who r u says...

just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets

DARE TO DREAM
WE LOVE KEAN
just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets DARE TO DREAM WE LOVE KEAN who r u

7:22pm Wed 9 May 12

100%rovers0%kean0%venkys says...

the fun at Blackburn may not be over for the day.........Emergenc
y board meeting taking place
the fun at Blackburn may not be over for the day.........Emergenc y board meeting taking place 100%rovers0%kean0%venkys

7:25pm Wed 9 May 12

annbi says...

FCBurnley wrote:
NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
We have spent many years in the Top Flight of English Football but that is not the issue. Without Walkers money you would never have been in the Prem, let alone for 1 season. Lets see how many more seasons you spend there now that the cash has run out. Not a nice feeling to fall off Daddy`s Yacht is it ! If you are such a great club then I suggest you put all your money on an immediate return to the Prem @ 14/1
Seems to me all you dingles are closet rovers fans you all spend enough time commenting
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]We have spent many years in the Top Flight of English Football but that is not the issue. Without Walkers money you would never have been in the Prem, let alone for 1 season. Lets see how many more seasons you spend there now that the cash has run out. Not a nice feeling to fall off Daddy`s Yacht is it ! If you are such a great club then I suggest you put all your money on an immediate return to the Prem @ 14/1[/p][/quote]Seems to me all you dingles are closet rovers fans you all spend enough time commenting annbi

7:25pm Wed 9 May 12

annbi says...

FCBurnley wrote:
NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
We have spent many years in the Top Flight of English Football but that is not the issue. Without Walkers money you would never have been in the Prem, let alone for 1 season. Lets see how many more seasons you spend there now that the cash has run out. Not a nice feeling to fall off Daddy`s Yacht is it ! If you are such a great club then I suggest you put all your money on an immediate return to the Prem @ 14/1
Seems to me all you dingles are closet rovers fans you all spend enough time commenting
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]We have spent many years in the Top Flight of English Football but that is not the issue. Without Walkers money you would never have been in the Prem, let alone for 1 season. Lets see how many more seasons you spend there now that the cash has run out. Not a nice feeling to fall off Daddy`s Yacht is it ! If you are such a great club then I suggest you put all your money on an immediate return to the Prem @ 14/1[/p][/quote]Seems to me all you dingles are closet rovers fans you all spend enough time commenting annbi

7:27pm Wed 9 May 12

BJS says...

jayt wrote:
They say that "before you condemn him, walk a mile in a man's shoes.....". Sorry, Andy, can't do that - I've never been a sports journalist. Nonetheless - and I want to say this in a much less offensive tone than that used by so many Rovers fans this last few days - I do find it hard to stomach a second "tell it like it is" article by you in the same week. I'm sure that the risk of a local reporter's access to "inside"information being compromised is never far from his mind when tough words have to be written. However its seemed that throughout this dreadful chapter in the Rovers' history you've constantly erred on the side of caution. Did this bring about Rovers' relegation? Unlikely, of course. Should you have routinely been swept away by the criticisms of your readers? Again of course not; your job is to bring perspective and balance to the debate. But, looking back, its hard to find much evidence this last 9 months of any real willingness on your part to "tell it like it (really) is"! The forums that followed your articles, through no initial fault of your own, inevitably attracted way too many foul-mouthed, intemperate, ill-conceived, wholly negative, and essentially ignorant "rants". But surely, as things grew worse and worse, you had to have reached a point where self-preservation ought to have taken second place to saying what simply had to be said? That just never seems to have happened. For many fans/readers that ultimately appears to have rubbed salt painfully and unnecessarily into their wounds - and that includes the "good guys" every bit as much as it does the evident bigots. I honestly don't think I'm "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" here. I think you need to reflect seriously, now, on a season's journalism that can't be saved, this late in the day, by a couple of articles of the sort that were needed weeks or months ago. And, no, I'm not saying you should take your talents elsewhere. Just please do promise yourself and your readers, that next season you'll BEGIN with honest and tough messages to the owners, directors, manager, coaches and players. That way you'll carry your readership with you and - who knows - even perhaps contribute to a necessary but by no means guaranteed recovery by the club that so many of us care for so much.
Great assessment of the mostly puerile reporting and inability to put people on the spot. For instance, could Cryer at some stage have asked Kean to justify the signing of Anderson junior? There are umpteen other instances where there was an abject failure to ask awkward questions.
[quote][p][bold]jayt[/bold] wrote: They say that "before you condemn him, walk a mile in a man's shoes.....". Sorry, Andy, can't do that - I've never been a sports journalist. Nonetheless - and I want to say this in a much less offensive tone than that used by so many Rovers fans this last few days - I do find it hard to stomach a second "tell it like it is" article by you in the same week. I'm sure that the risk of a local reporter's access to "inside"information being compromised is never far from his mind when tough words have to be written. However its seemed that throughout this dreadful chapter in the Rovers' history you've constantly erred on the side of caution. Did this bring about Rovers' relegation? Unlikely, of course. Should you have routinely been swept away by the criticisms of your readers? Again of course not; your job is to bring perspective and balance to the debate. But, looking back, its hard to find much evidence this last 9 months of any real willingness on your part to "tell it like it (really) is"! The forums that followed your articles, through no initial fault of your own, inevitably attracted way too many foul-mouthed, intemperate, ill-conceived, wholly negative, and essentially ignorant "rants". But surely, as things grew worse and worse, you had to have reached a point where self-preservation ought to have taken second place to saying what simply had to be said? That just never seems to have happened. For many fans/readers that ultimately appears to have rubbed salt painfully and unnecessarily into their wounds - and that includes the "good guys" every bit as much as it does the evident bigots. I honestly don't think I'm "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" here. I think you need to reflect seriously, now, on a season's journalism that can't be saved, this late in the day, by a couple of articles of the sort that were needed weeks or months ago. And, no, I'm not saying you should take your talents elsewhere. Just please do promise yourself and your readers, that next season you'll BEGIN with honest and tough messages to the owners, directors, manager, coaches and players. That way you'll carry your readership with you and - who knows - even perhaps contribute to a necessary but by no means guaranteed recovery by the club that so many of us care for so much.[/p][/quote]Great assessment of the mostly puerile reporting and inability to put people on the spot. For instance, could Cryer at some stage have asked Kean to justify the signing of Anderson junior? There are umpteen other instances where there was an abject failure to ask awkward questions. BJS

7:33pm Wed 9 May 12

hasslem hasslem says...

100%rovers0%kean0%ve
nkys wrote:
the fun at Blackburn may not be over for the day.........Emergenc

y board meeting taking place
are there any board members left to have a meeting?
.
veneeth and our brilliant manager at a little chef (sorry they have gone bust too!)
[quote][p][bold]100%rovers0%kean0%ve nkys[/bold] wrote: the fun at Blackburn may not be over for the day.........Emergenc y board meeting taking place[/p][/quote]are there any board members left to have a meeting? . veneeth and our brilliant manager at a little chef (sorry they have gone bust too!) hasslem hasslem

7:35pm Wed 9 May 12

burnleyglentoran says...

BREAKING NEWS............BREA

KING NEWS................

..BREAKING NEWS.............BRE

AKING NEWS.........

SKY SPORTS NEWS REPORTING

Steve Kean spotted checking out Chelsea at Anfield last night.

Commenting on the forthcoming game at Stamford Bridge, Rovers manager said,

"I still believe that if we catch Chelsea on an off-day, we can still get the 7 points we need to secure our Premier League status!"

NNN
BREAKING NEWS............BREA KING NEWS................ ..BREAKING NEWS.............BRE AKING NEWS......... SKY SPORTS NEWS REPORTING Steve Kean spotted checking out Chelsea at Anfield last night. Commenting on the forthcoming game at Stamford Bridge, Rovers manager said, "I still believe that if we catch Chelsea on an off-day, we can still get the 7 points we need to secure our Premier League status!" NNN burnleyglentoran

7:35pm Wed 9 May 12

whittaker0 says...

I think that Steve Kean cuts a lonely and pathetic figure and what is now coming out is that he is mentally unstable. He reminds me of Walter Mitty but far, far worse. Walter just harmed himself; Steve Kean is affects others, mkaing many peoples lives miserable and has done so for one and half years. The Venkys are a waste of time, small time get rich quick merchants with little or no credibility. Not too happy after hearing Mr Scudamore's fudging; suggesting that the Premier Leagues current suitability tests are working. I do not think so some how. Clearly the Venkys are totally unsuitable to run a football club; they are complete embarrassment. Steve Kean will be sacked.
I think that Steve Kean cuts a lonely and pathetic figure and what is now coming out is that he is mentally unstable. He reminds me of Walter Mitty but far, far worse. Walter just harmed himself; Steve Kean is affects others, mkaing many peoples lives miserable and has done so for one and half years. The Venkys are a waste of time, small time get rich quick merchants with little or no credibility. Not too happy after hearing Mr Scudamore's fudging; suggesting that the Premier Leagues current suitability tests are working. I do not think so some how. Clearly the Venkys are totally unsuitable to run a football club; they are complete embarrassment. Steve Kean will be sacked. whittaker0

7:40pm Wed 9 May 12

mellorb&w says...

whittaker0 wrote:
I think that Steve Kean cuts a lonely and pathetic figure and what is now coming out is that he is mentally unstable. He reminds me of Walter Mitty but far, far worse. Walter just harmed himself; Steve Kean is affects others, mkaing many peoples lives miserable and has done so for one and half years. The Venkys are a waste of time, small time get rich quick merchants with little or no credibility. Not too happy after hearing Mr Scudamore's fudging; suggesting that the Premier Leagues current suitability tests are working. I do not think so some how. Clearly the Venkys are totally unsuitable to run a football club; they are complete embarrassment. Steve Kean will be sacked.
I wish you were right my friend but there is no chance that he will be sacked and the smug git knows it. Venkys are mugs who have been taken for a ride but they do not not run the club on a day to day basis. I know it all sounds a bit far fetched but it will all come out in time. Problem is that by that time we will be in Division 1 or 2 with no assets left.
[quote][p][bold]whittaker0[/bold] wrote: I think that Steve Kean cuts a lonely and pathetic figure and what is now coming out is that he is mentally unstable. He reminds me of Walter Mitty but far, far worse. Walter just harmed himself; Steve Kean is affects others, mkaing many peoples lives miserable and has done so for one and half years. The Venkys are a waste of time, small time get rich quick merchants with little or no credibility. Not too happy after hearing Mr Scudamore's fudging; suggesting that the Premier Leagues current suitability tests are working. I do not think so some how. Clearly the Venkys are totally unsuitable to run a football club; they are complete embarrassment. Steve Kean will be sacked.[/p][/quote]I wish you were right my friend but there is no chance that he will be sacked and the smug git knows it. Venkys are mugs who have been taken for a ride but they do not not run the club on a day to day basis. I know it all sounds a bit far fetched but it will all come out in time. Problem is that by that time we will be in Division 1 or 2 with no assets left. mellorb&w

7:40pm Wed 9 May 12

NICEONESUNSHINE says...

bobinspain wrote:
NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????.
.
JUST ONE!!!!
.
Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....
As usual NOS you attempt to traduce a perfectly rational comment.
You need to grow up!
Oh no not the drunk from Spain! I thought you'd given up when the scruff finished their ONE SEASON IN THE SUN OF THE PREMIER LEAGUE.....Give up you pi** pot
[quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]18 years in the Premiership says more than "a good few years"....How long were the scruff in it for????. . JUST ONE!!!! . Glad to see you're still hurting after 34 years in our shadow....[/p][/quote]As usual NOS you attempt to traduce a perfectly rational comment. You need to grow up![/p][/quote]Oh no not the drunk from Spain! I thought you'd given up when the scruff finished their ONE SEASON IN THE SUN OF THE PREMIER LEAGUE.....Give up you pi** pot NICEONESUNSHINE

7:45pm Wed 9 May 12

Kerimoglu says...

Really struggling to put my feelings into words, me, my Dad, and my 12 year old son are Rovers through and through, but we cannot bring ourselves to give these people and'that man' any more of our very hard earned money. I am extremely angry, and heartbroken, that our Saturday afternoon ritual, a tradition, 3 generations of Rovers, and thousands like us have been disregarded by the Walker Trust, Venkys, and 'that man' but it is no longer enjoyable. We will probably follow away from home locally, but that feeling when you turn the corner into Nuttall St and see the ground that Jack built, that feeling that made you smile, that made you feel like you belonged to something, something you could relate to, be connected to, our Blackburn Rovers..that feeling has gone. National ( London Media) claim that 'that man' has been wrongly abused, that he is a husband and father as well, and i have taken this on board before coming to a final conclusion. However, i can still say categorically that if 'that man' was my Father, or son, i would be ashamed. I can only hope that he could read this and have some understanding of this, and what he has done to thousands upon thousands of loyal, local supporters of our great Club. To Venkys, you have probably fulfilled our worst fears upon seeing you on our pitch that very first time, after all, gut feeling is rarely wrong. To 'that man',shame on you, hang your head in shame.No matter what they say, your family know what you are, and they are embarrassed and ashamed...you should be their hero, but they know deep down. I wouldn't swap with you for all the money in the world. RTID.
Really struggling to put my feelings into words, me, my Dad, and my 12 year old son are Rovers through and through, but we cannot bring ourselves to give these people and'that man' any more of our very hard earned money. I am extremely angry, and heartbroken, that our Saturday afternoon ritual, a tradition, 3 generations of Rovers, and thousands like us have been disregarded by the Walker Trust, Venkys, and 'that man' but it is no longer enjoyable. We will probably follow away from home locally, but that feeling when you turn the corner into Nuttall St and see the ground that Jack built, that feeling that made you smile, that made you feel like you belonged to something, something you could relate to, be connected to, our Blackburn Rovers..that feeling has gone. National ( London Media) claim that 'that man' has been wrongly abused, that he is a husband and father as well, and i have taken this on board before coming to a final conclusion. However, i can still say categorically that if 'that man' was my Father, or son, i would be ashamed. I can only hope that he could read this and have some understanding of this, and what he has done to thousands upon thousands of loyal, local supporters of our great Club. To Venkys, you have probably fulfilled our worst fears upon seeing you on our pitch that very first time, after all, gut feeling is rarely wrong. To 'that man',shame on you, hang your head in shame.No matter what they say, your family know what you are, and they are embarrassed and ashamed...you should be their hero, but they know deep down. I wouldn't swap with you for all the money in the world. RTID. Kerimoglu

7:46pm Wed 9 May 12

who r u says...

i would like to thank the venky's an agent kean for the total enjoyment in which you have given us this season. long may this great partnership continue. in venky's we trust.

DARE TO DREAM
WE LOVE AGENT KEAN.
i would like to thank the venky's an agent kean for the total enjoyment in which you have given us this season. long may this great partnership continue. in venky's we trust. DARE TO DREAM WE LOVE AGENT KEAN. who r u

7:49pm Wed 9 May 12

NICEONESUNSHINE says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
BREAKING NEWS............BREA


KING NEWS................


..BREAKING NEWS.............BRE


AKING NEWS.........

SKY SPORTS NEWS REPORTING

Steve Kean spotted checking out Chelsea at Anfield last night.

Commenting on the forthcoming game at Stamford Bridge, Rovers manager said,

"I still believe that if we catch Chelsea on an off-day, we can still get the 7 points we need to secure our Premier League status!"

NNN
Wow you're hilarious....I can see why you've choosen to support Burnley you stupid Taig?......It's beause you fit in well as they're all as thick as the Irish......And as ugly
.
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: BREAKING NEWS............BREA KING NEWS................ ..BREAKING NEWS.............BRE AKING NEWS......... SKY SPORTS NEWS REPORTING Steve Kean spotted checking out Chelsea at Anfield last night. Commenting on the forthcoming game at Stamford Bridge, Rovers manager said, "I still believe that if we catch Chelsea on an off-day, we can still get the 7 points we need to secure our Premier League status!" NNN[/p][/quote]Wow you're hilarious....I can see why you've choosen to support Burnley you stupid Taig?......It's beause you fit in well as they're all as thick as the Irish......And as ugly . NICEONESUNSHINE

7:50pm Wed 9 May 12

garyintandem says...

Andy, brave article. Have you got any answers from Robert Coar ?
Andy, brave article. Have you got any answers from Robert Coar ? garyintandem

8:00pm Wed 9 May 12

fugal solly says...

Mr Kean said to all us Blackburn fans, after the transfer window had closed in September judge me now I've got all the players in. Did he forget about saying this. Please go.
Mr Kean said to all us Blackburn fans, after the transfer window had closed in September judge me now I've got all the players in. Did he forget about saying this. Please go. fugal solly

8:01pm Wed 9 May 12

riversidefan says...

garyintandem wrote:
Andy, brave article. Have you got any answers from Robert Coar ?
Especially as Andy will be the only journalist attending Kean's press conferences next season.
[quote][p][bold]garyintandem[/bold] wrote: Andy, brave article. Have you got any answers from Robert Coar ?[/p][/quote]Especially as Andy will be the only journalist attending Kean's press conferences next season. riversidefan

8:06pm Wed 9 May 12

burnleyglentoran says...

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
BREAKING NEWS............BREA



KING NEWS................



..BREAKING NEWS.............BRE



AKING NEWS.........

SKY SPORTS NEWS REPORTING

Steve Kean spotted checking out Chelsea at Anfield last night.

Commenting on the forthcoming game at Stamford Bridge, Rovers manager said,

"I still believe that if we catch Chelsea on an off-day, we can still get the 7 points we need to secure our Premier League status!"

NNN
Wow you're hilarious....I can see why you've choosen to support Burnley you stupid Taig?......It's beause you fit in well as they're all as thick as the Irish......And as ugly
.
HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN

HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN

HIS NAME IS STEVE KEAN

HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]NICEONESUNSHINE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: BREAKING NEWS............BREA KING NEWS................ ..BREAKING NEWS.............BRE AKING NEWS......... SKY SPORTS NEWS REPORTING Steve Kean spotted checking out Chelsea at Anfield last night. Commenting on the forthcoming game at Stamford Bridge, Rovers manager said, "I still believe that if we catch Chelsea on an off-day, we can still get the 7 points we need to secure our Premier League status!" NNN[/p][/quote]Wow you're hilarious....I can see why you've choosen to support Burnley you stupid Taig?......It's beause you fit in well as they're all as thick as the Irish......And as ugly .[/p][/quote]HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN HIS NAME IS STEVE KEAN HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN!!!!! burnleyglentoran

8:12pm Wed 9 May 12

RupertsReason says...

Funny how you hovis lovers from dinglesville only come on to place your putrid words on a Rovers post when the job centre has shut and mad Mary has pushed you away from the bar at the Turd pub.
How anyone from a town that is in the bottom 3 of the countries education figures can call Rovers fans 'Arrogant' is a mystery. It was the Dingles own arrogance that stopped them from filling the whole of the Darwen end when we played in the Premiership (during your one and only season) so that those who had saved their drug money up could have half of the cricket ground end.
The fact that the Dingle Express published a route from the bus station to the ticket office on Harry Potts Way when they announced sales of Premiership Season Tickets puts you Dingles in the same boat when it comes to jumping on band wagons. You'd be better served in asking your 6 year old child to read the Dingle section instead of Rovers news.
Funny how you hovis lovers from dinglesville only come on to place your putrid words on a Rovers post when the job centre has shut and mad Mary has pushed you away from the bar at the Turd pub. How anyone from a town that is in the bottom 3 of the countries education figures can call Rovers fans 'Arrogant' is a mystery. It was the Dingles own arrogance that stopped them from filling the whole of the Darwen end when we played in the Premiership (during your one and only season) so that those who had saved their drug money up could have half of the cricket ground end. The fact that the Dingle Express published a route from the bus station to the ticket office on Harry Potts Way when they announced sales of Premiership Season Tickets puts you Dingles in the same boat when it comes to jumping on band wagons. You'd be better served in asking your 6 year old child to read the Dingle section instead of Rovers news. RupertsReason

8:20pm Wed 9 May 12

burnleyglentoran says...

RupertsReason wrote:
Funny how you hovis lovers from dinglesville only come on to place your putrid words on a Rovers post when the job centre has shut and mad Mary has pushed you away from the bar at the Turd pub.
How anyone from a town that is in the bottom 3 of the countries education figures can call Rovers fans 'Arrogant' is a mystery. It was the Dingles own arrogance that stopped them from filling the whole of the Darwen end when we played in the Premiership (during your one and only season) so that those who had saved their drug money up could have half of the cricket ground end.
The fact that the Dingle Express published a route from the bus station to the ticket office on Harry Potts Way when they announced sales of Premiership Season Tickets puts you Dingles in the same boat when it comes to jumping on band wagons. You'd be better served in asking your 6 year old child to read the Dingle section instead of Rovers news.
Dry ya eyes mate.

The championship's alright ya know.

Not that you're gonna get chance to get used to it!

League one, now then.............
[quote][p][bold]RupertsReason[/bold] wrote: Funny how you hovis lovers from dinglesville only come on to place your putrid words on a Rovers post when the job centre has shut and mad Mary has pushed you away from the bar at the Turd pub. How anyone from a town that is in the bottom 3 of the countries education figures can call Rovers fans 'Arrogant' is a mystery. It was the Dingles own arrogance that stopped them from filling the whole of the Darwen end when we played in the Premiership (during your one and only season) so that those who had saved their drug money up could have half of the cricket ground end. The fact that the Dingle Express published a route from the bus station to the ticket office on Harry Potts Way when they announced sales of Premiership Season Tickets puts you Dingles in the same boat when it comes to jumping on band wagons. You'd be better served in asking your 6 year old child to read the Dingle section instead of Rovers news.[/p][/quote]Dry ya eyes mate. The championship's alright ya know. Not that you're gonna get chance to get used to it! League one, now then............. burnleyglentoran

8:23pm Wed 9 May 12

bow1974 says...

http://www.venkys.co
m/contact-us/
heres were express your thoughts good luck on getting answers
http://www.venkys.co m/contact-us/ heres were express your thoughts good luck on getting answers bow1974

8:26pm Wed 9 May 12

wilyrover says...

Jack Herer wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
"The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome?
The man who had Allardyce sacked, the man who had John Williams and other amazing top level staff sacked, the man who made Steve Kean, his mate, manager?

Yeah I wonder why they don't name him. There's arguably most of the blame against Jerome Anderson. He's arguably the person who has done by far the most damage to Blackburn Rovers in it's history.

His son was a good signing as well!
The signing of Myles Anderson really should have set the alarm bells ringing. Here was a 'player' who had failed miserably at both Leyton Orient and Aberdeen being signed up on a three year contract. Obviously logic was going out of the window and Daddy Anderson was using the club as a vehicle to park his son at in order that he could hold on to his dream of being a professional footballer. People have been allowed to exploit this club for their own selfish reasons, including Kean, who will never make a football manager and who will never get another job in the game, if we ever manage to get him out of the door. The one guy who genuinely had the best interests of the club at heart i.e. Paul Hunt, if the rumours are correct, has been sacked. What a sad, sorry mess of a club we have become.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: "The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome?[/p][/quote]The man who had Allardyce sacked, the man who had John Williams and other amazing top level staff sacked, the man who made Steve Kean, his mate, manager? Yeah I wonder why they don't name him. There's arguably most of the blame against Jerome Anderson. He's arguably the person who has done by far the most damage to Blackburn Rovers in it's history. His son was a good signing as well![/p][/quote]The signing of Myles Anderson really should have set the alarm bells ringing. Here was a 'player' who had failed miserably at both Leyton Orient and Aberdeen being signed up on a three year contract. Obviously logic was going out of the window and Daddy Anderson was using the club as a vehicle to park his son at in order that he could hold on to his dream of being a professional footballer. People have been allowed to exploit this club for their own selfish reasons, including Kean, who will never make a football manager and who will never get another job in the game, if we ever manage to get him out of the door. The one guy who genuinely had the best interests of the club at heart i.e. Paul Hunt, if the rumours are correct, has been sacked. What a sad, sorry mess of a club we have become. wilyrover

8:30pm Wed 9 May 12

French Rover says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
for the first time in my life - i want rovers to lose at the weekend.......no, incorrect, i want to see them get hammered, really massively taken to the cleaners.....a premiership scoring record for chelsea 10-0, 15-0 or even 20-0.
.
then lets see how kean and desai get on in the crisis meeting.
.
nobody at club...kean agnew or venkys will confirm hunt's departure. WHY NOT?????....surely it is not that difficult a question to answer.
sorry Hass but any defeat is a no-no for me and you know form whats gone on that 20-0 loss would not change anything.....except pour even more sadness onto the club and the fans..it has been such a slog and such a torturous ordeal for over a year now and I can well do without finishing our prem life with a hammering off a load of southern plonkers like Chelsea..
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: for the first time in my life - i want rovers to lose at the weekend.......no, incorrect, i want to see them get hammered, really massively taken to the cleaners.....a premiership scoring record for chelsea 10-0, 15-0 or even 20-0. . then lets see how kean and desai get on in the crisis meeting. . nobody at club...kean agnew or venkys will confirm hunt's departure. WHY NOT?????....surely it is not that difficult a question to answer.[/p][/quote]sorry Hass but any defeat is a no-no for me and you know form whats gone on that 20-0 loss would not change anything.....except pour even more sadness onto the club and the fans..it has been such a slog and such a torturous ordeal for over a year now and I can well do without finishing our prem life with a hammering off a load of southern plonkers like Chelsea.. French Rover

8:48pm Wed 9 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice.

When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.
I accept some of what you say but, when you support a team it is unconditional warts and all. The vast majority of current Rovers fans only became fans during the Walker era and barring a couple of seasons they have been rewarded with PL football.
It is 25 years almost to the day that Burnley played and beat Orient to stay in the Football League. I can assure you that compared to that day your problems are miniscule. Accrington Stanley went bankrupt in 1962 and took until recently to fight their way back in the FL.
Certainly during our dark days of 25 years ago we received nothing but vile abuse from 99% of Rovers fans.
If you are old enough to remember the late fifties and 60`s you will know that Burnley were the vastly superior of the 2 east lancs clubs. The 90`s to date has been Blackburns time. Next season may or may not see the power swing back in Burnleys favour. Whatever happens I will be a Claret and I suspect you will always be a Blue.
You talk about the uncertainty surrounding your club. You have been relegated, thats all. Nobody has died, it happens to 3 clubs every season. If you dont agree how the club is being run, stay away and starve them of cash. Cash is the only reason they are there.
Hopefully Bolton will be joining us and Blackpool will stay down. Nothing against them but 6 local derbies a season sounds good to me.
You are wrong. Iv been going since the 70s and this is the first time Im refusing to support whatever mission is going on down there. You simply dont understand. Its easier for you to keep the same repetitive criticism going than to think more laterally
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice. When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.[/p][/quote]I accept some of what you say but, when you support a team it is unconditional warts and all. The vast majority of current Rovers fans only became fans during the Walker era and barring a couple of seasons they have been rewarded with PL football. It is 25 years almost to the day that Burnley played and beat Orient to stay in the Football League. I can assure you that compared to that day your problems are miniscule. Accrington Stanley went bankrupt in 1962 and took until recently to fight their way back in the FL. Certainly during our dark days of 25 years ago we received nothing but vile abuse from 99% of Rovers fans. If you are old enough to remember the late fifties and 60`s you will know that Burnley were the vastly superior of the 2 east lancs clubs. The 90`s to date has been Blackburns time. Next season may or may not see the power swing back in Burnleys favour. Whatever happens I will be a Claret and I suspect you will always be a Blue. You talk about the uncertainty surrounding your club. You have been relegated, thats all. Nobody has died, it happens to 3 clubs every season. If you dont agree how the club is being run, stay away and starve them of cash. Cash is the only reason they are there. Hopefully Bolton will be joining us and Blackpool will stay down. Nothing against them but 6 local derbies a season sounds good to me.[/p][/quote]You are wrong. Iv been going since the 70s and this is the first time Im refusing to support whatever mission is going on down there. You simply dont understand. Its easier for you to keep the same repetitive criticism going than to think more laterally merlinrabbit

8:51pm Wed 9 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

Iv been talking to a Burnley fan tonight. Gave me all the usual like this lot on here but then settled into a more reasonable conversation and told me he is a Burnley season ticket holder but has been to watch Rovers 6 times this season. Very brave of him to admit that. He said with Allardyce we wouldnt have been relegated and he wouldnt wish Venkys on anybody. There are some who can move the record on and some who actually watch our team!!
Iv been talking to a Burnley fan tonight. Gave me all the usual like this lot on here but then settled into a more reasonable conversation and told me he is a Burnley season ticket holder but has been to watch Rovers 6 times this season. Very brave of him to admit that. He said with Allardyce we wouldnt have been relegated and he wouldnt wish Venkys on anybody. There are some who can move the record on and some who actually watch our team!! merlinrabbit

9:01pm Wed 9 May 12

hasslem hasslem says...

French Rover wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
for the first time in my life - i want rovers to lose at the weekend.......no, incorrect, i want to see them get hammered, really massively taken to the cleaners.....a premiership scoring record for chelsea 10-0, 15-0 or even 20-0.
.
then lets see how kean and desai get on in the crisis meeting.
.
nobody at club...kean agnew or venkys will confirm hunt's departure. WHY NOT?????....surely it is not that difficult a question to answer.
sorry Hass but any defeat is a no-no for me and you know form whats gone on that 20-0 loss would not change anything.....except pour even more sadness onto the club and the fans..it has been such a slog and such a torturous ordeal for over a year now and I can well do without finishing our prem life with a hammering off a load of southern plonkers like Chelsea..
frenchie i reckon them bassin d'arcachon huitres that you have been stuffing have addled your mind.
.
course a record defeat would change loads....eventually the press has woken up to the fact that kean is a lying slag "i though wor deserved to win the game the other night!".....this man would argue that adolf hitler was a just quiet painter.
.
record defeat would surely force him to admit that he is out of his depth in the shallow end and go some way to forcing venkys hand - - especially if they see it unfold in front of them.
.
FRENCHIE....WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR CLUB?? i have no problem with some people taking the mick, just a pity they cant do it with a bit of imagination.....can cope easily with the brickbats if you have hope, but all we are left with now is a past.....as that great english folk singer and philosopher john lydon once lamented "no future, no future, NO FUTURE FOR YOU" one for you there woody
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: for the first time in my life - i want rovers to lose at the weekend.......no, incorrect, i want to see them get hammered, really massively taken to the cleaners.....a premiership scoring record for chelsea 10-0, 15-0 or even 20-0. . then lets see how kean and desai get on in the crisis meeting. . nobody at club...kean agnew or venkys will confirm hunt's departure. WHY NOT?????....surely it is not that difficult a question to answer.[/p][/quote]sorry Hass but any defeat is a no-no for me and you know form whats gone on that 20-0 loss would not change anything.....except pour even more sadness onto the club and the fans..it has been such a slog and such a torturous ordeal for over a year now and I can well do without finishing our prem life with a hammering off a load of southern plonkers like Chelsea..[/p][/quote]frenchie i reckon them bassin d'arcachon huitres that you have been stuffing have addled your mind. . course a record defeat would change loads....eventually the press has woken up to the fact that kean is a lying slag "i though wor deserved to win the game the other night!".....this man would argue that adolf hitler was a just quiet painter. . record defeat would surely force him to admit that he is out of his depth in the shallow end and go some way to forcing venkys hand - - especially if they see it unfold in front of them. . FRENCHIE....WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR CLUB?? i have no problem with some people taking the mick, just a pity they cant do it with a bit of imagination.....can cope easily with the brickbats if you have hope, but all we are left with now is a past.....as that great english folk singer and philosopher john lydon once lamented "no future, no future, NO FUTURE FOR YOU" one for you there woody hasslem hasslem

9:13pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

After getting married for the third time last Saturday, I couldn't help but think, "This vicar has clearly been drinking."
After getting married for the third time last Saturday, I couldn't help but think, "This vicar has clearly been drinking." makaveli96

9:15pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

Looks like Drogba's leaving Chelsea at the end of this season. That'll be sad for the many fans who worship the ground he falls on.
Looks like Drogba's leaving Chelsea at the end of this season. That'll be sad for the many fans who worship the ground he falls on. makaveli96

9:15pm Wed 9 May 12

Scamp Kingsley says...

Wake up scruffs VENKEY'S AREN'T ROVERS FANS, so they're not interested in talking to anybody!Fact. They fell out with the situation last summer and now all they want is their money back. Realistically no one is going to give them anything like what they paid (just look at the antics of trying to sell rangers at the moment) so the only logical thing to do in their minds is run the club on a shoe string, sod the fans, sod league position, sell players, sack staff, oh and sipon off the £48Million parachute payments to india. Sad for blackburn but business is business.
Wake up scruffs VENKEY'S AREN'T ROVERS FANS, so they're not interested in talking to anybody!Fact. They fell out with the situation last summer and now all they want is their money back. Realistically no one is going to give them anything like what they paid (just look at the antics of trying to sell rangers at the moment) so the only logical thing to do in their minds is run the club on a shoe string, sod the fans, sod league position, sell players, sack staff, oh and sipon off the £48Million parachute payments to india. Sad for blackburn but business is business. Scamp Kingsley

9:15pm Wed 9 May 12

Vikings Rover says...

Bradley Orr's post match comment;
" . . . but I am also devastated for Steve Kean. I would also say that everyone at the club would be happy if he was here next season".

EVERYONE ? BY THAT I ASSUME YOU MEAN EVERYONE WHO HAS THEIR SNOUT IN THE TROUGH !!

That includes Kermit Kean, Miss Piggy from Pune, & Gonzo Anderson . . . . . Rizzo the Rat has yet to make an appearance!!

Sorry Bradley, you are talking total muppetry which I understand is Kermit's preferred language.

Stephen Nzonzi? Gael Givet? Robbo? don't think so!

Myles Anderson? Bradley Orr? Absolutely!!

How could you make such an unsubstantiated statement? Astonishing!! Simply astonishing !!

R.T.I.D.
Bradley Orr's post match comment; " . . . but I am also devastated for Steve Kean. I would also say that everyone at the club would be happy if he was here next season". EVERYONE ? BY THAT I ASSUME YOU MEAN EVERYONE WHO HAS THEIR SNOUT IN THE TROUGH !! That includes Kermit Kean, Miss Piggy from Pune, & Gonzo Anderson . . . . . Rizzo the Rat has yet to make an appearance!! Sorry Bradley, you are talking total muppetry which I understand is Kermit's preferred language. Stephen Nzonzi? Gael Givet? Robbo? don't think so! Myles Anderson? Bradley Orr? Absolutely!! How could you make such an unsubstantiated statement? Astonishing!! Simply astonishing !! R.T.I.D. Vikings Rover

9:16pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

Barrack Obama is said to be shocked at the news that the Clintons are in administration.
Barrack Obama is said to be shocked at the news that the Clintons are in administration. makaveli96

9:17pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

I had a dig at the wife earlier, but the smell was terrible so I covered her over again.
I had a dig at the wife earlier, but the smell was terrible so I covered her over again. makaveli96

9:20pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

Have you heard about that new game called Constipation?

No?

That's because it's not come out yet.
Have you heard about that new game called Constipation? No? That's because it's not come out yet. makaveli96

9:25pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

'Clinton Cards Enter Administration'.

Thinking of you at this difficult time.
'Clinton Cards Enter Administration'. Thinking of you at this difficult time. makaveli96

9:27pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

I've been trying to get an extra Champions League final ticket for my wife.

But nobody wants her.
I've been trying to get an extra Champions League final ticket for my wife. But nobody wants her. makaveli96

9:29pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

What do you call Will.i.am when he's surprised?

Will.i.never
What do you call Will.i.am when he's surprised? Will.i.never makaveli96

9:31pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

I visited the animal rescue centre today and got a dog with no legs.

My girlfriend thinks I'm an amazingly caring man.

I'm not, I just really hate walking.
I visited the animal rescue centre today and got a dog with no legs. My girlfriend thinks I'm an amazingly caring man. I'm not, I just really hate walking. makaveli96

9:33pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

My wife said to me "Why don't you say anything to me when we're making love" I said "Because I don't want to wake you up"
My wife said to me "Why don't you say anything to me when we're making love" I said "Because I don't want to wake you up" makaveli96

9:34pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

Matt Damon's wife has threatened to divorce him unless he shaves more regularly.

It's the Braun Ultimatum.
Matt Damon's wife has threatened to divorce him unless he shaves more regularly. It's the Braun Ultimatum. makaveli96

9:36pm Wed 9 May 12

makaveli96 says...

BREAKING NEWS: Afterwatching his performance against Liverpool, Bayern Munich are to appeal John Terry's CL final suspension.
BREAKING NEWS: Afterwatching his performance against Liverpool, Bayern Munich are to appeal John Terry's CL final suspension. makaveli96

9:54pm Wed 9 May 12

eddie the eagle says...

Your right HH only a defeat will do on saturday.Imagine the crap that will come from Kean if we won,blaming the fans for not beating Wigan.The nails are in the coffin they have got to be hammered home.
Your right HH only a defeat will do on saturday.Imagine the crap that will come from Kean if we won,blaming the fans for not beating Wigan.The nails are in the coffin they have got to be hammered home. eddie the eagle

9:55pm Wed 9 May 12

FCBurnley says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Iv been talking to a Burnley fan tonight. Gave me all the usual like this lot on here but then settled into a more reasonable conversation and told me he is a Burnley season ticket holder but has been to watch Rovers 6 times this season. Very brave of him to admit that. He said with Allardyce we wouldnt have been relegated and he wouldnt wish Venkys on anybody. There are some who can move the record on and some who actually watch our team!!
i watch your team but only when I am depressed and need a laugh.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: Iv been talking to a Burnley fan tonight. Gave me all the usual like this lot on here but then settled into a more reasonable conversation and told me he is a Burnley season ticket holder but has been to watch Rovers 6 times this season. Very brave of him to admit that. He said with Allardyce we wouldnt have been relegated and he wouldnt wish Venkys on anybody. There are some who can move the record on and some who actually watch our team!![/p][/quote]i watch your team but only when I am depressed and need a laugh. FCBurnley

10:12pm Wed 9 May 12

hugofakenham says...

dallarover wrote:
Good article - but a few months too late. Its still difficult to understand what is in Venky's minds and what there plans are or were - the best I can come up with is that they were very badly advised that the club could be successful with no additional investment and when they've found out that isn't the case they just don't know what to do. The continuing support for Rat Face though continues to defy any logicial explanation - he will never be a good manager either in the Championship or any other league!
yeah,good article but you wait til the horse has bolted and try to show you're on the side of the fans.
Where were you since the Bolton game ? I'll tell you : sitting on the fence. Call yourself a reporter ? You wait until you can see the way the wind's blowing then take the uncontroversial middle ground.
If I want an insight I'd never tune in to you : as we say in Spain "no tienes cojones".
[quote][p][bold]dallarover[/bold] wrote: Good article - but a few months too late. Its still difficult to understand what is in Venky's minds and what there plans are or were - the best I can come up with is that they were very badly advised that the club could be successful with no additional investment and when they've found out that isn't the case they just don't know what to do. The continuing support for Rat Face though continues to defy any logicial explanation - he will never be a good manager either in the Championship or any other league![/p][/quote]yeah,good article but you wait til the horse has bolted and try to show you're on the side of the fans. Where were you since the Bolton game ? I'll tell you : sitting on the fence. Call yourself a reporter ? You wait until you can see the way the wind's blowing then take the uncontroversial middle ground. If I want an insight I'd never tune in to you : as we say in Spain "no tienes cojones". hugofakenham

10:13pm Wed 9 May 12

craftandgraft says...

Get behind A Cryer please everyone.

www.brsit.co.ul

Arte et Labore.
Get behind A Cryer please everyone. www.brsit.co.ul Arte et Labore. craftandgraft

10:16pm Wed 9 May 12

Norway_blackburn_fan says...

I've been quiet for a very long time now and watching the forums everyday here in Norway. I had to stand by and watch my beloved Rovers be torn apart by forces of evil, and not being able to do a thing.

I started supporting Rovers in 1992 when Stuart Ripley made the move from Middlesbrough to Rovers. Being family, I followed him (better supporting Rovers than m'boro eh?, and I was only 12).

Since then, i've considered myself a firm supporter, even getting to see more than enough matches in my many years when I make it back over to England. Obviously, I've taken the last years farcical moments very hard, but I can't help but think there is one thing that bothers me more than anything else...

When I speak to people about Blackburn, (both at home and in Norway) they show a massive lack of understanding to our situation, having not seen anything on the news or mainstream papers about 80% of what has happened here. When I try to "educate" them on the matters, they just show an apathy.

If this piece that Andy wrote had come out earlier, I can't help but believe that others might have picked up on it, and it would have been given more attention. Even sky news ran articles about LET spearheading the campaign to have lord haw haw removed back in December. There was a start of a momentum there, and we had a chance for a development. Instead, pressure was eased, and the fans took the brunt of the blame.

I'd like to see this article pushed at more mainstream papers, harder questions asked, and if Andy Cryer isn't up to the job of asking them questions, pass it on to someone who is.

On the whole, this article was good. 5 months too late, and is merely a reminder to us about what lead to Monday nights defeat. I beg the LET to keep up the pressure and deal venkys and Lord Haw Haw the attention they really deserve!

100% Rovers
0% Venkys
0% Lord Haw Haw
I've been quiet for a very long time now and watching the forums everyday here in Norway. I had to stand by and watch my beloved Rovers be torn apart by forces of evil, and not being able to do a thing. I started supporting Rovers in 1992 when Stuart Ripley made the move from Middlesbrough to Rovers. Being family, I followed him (better supporting Rovers than m'boro eh?, and I was only 12). Since then, i've considered myself a firm supporter, even getting to see more than enough matches in my many years when I make it back over to England. Obviously, I've taken the last years farcical moments very hard, but I can't help but think there is one thing that bothers me more than anything else... When I speak to people about Blackburn, (both at home and in Norway) they show a massive lack of understanding to our situation, having not seen anything on the news or mainstream papers about 80% of what has happened here. When I try to "educate" them on the matters, they just show an apathy. If this piece that Andy wrote had come out earlier, I can't help but believe that others might have picked up on it, and it would have been given more attention. Even sky news ran articles about LET spearheading the campaign to have lord haw haw removed back in December. There was a start of a momentum there, and we had a chance for a development. Instead, pressure was eased, and the fans took the brunt of the blame. I'd like to see this article pushed at more mainstream papers, harder questions asked, and if Andy Cryer isn't up to the job of asking them questions, pass it on to someone who is. On the whole, this article was good. 5 months too late, and is merely a reminder to us about what lead to Monday nights defeat. I beg the LET to keep up the pressure and deal venkys and Lord Haw Haw the attention they really deserve! 100% Rovers 0% Venkys 0% Lord Haw Haw Norway_blackburn_fan

10:24pm Wed 9 May 12

hugofakenham says...

Norway_blackburn_fan wrote:
I've been quiet for a very long time now and watching the forums everyday here in Norway. I had to stand by and watch my beloved Rovers be torn apart by forces of evil, and not being able to do a thing. I started supporting Rovers in 1992 when Stuart Ripley made the move from Middlesbrough to Rovers. Being family, I followed him (better supporting Rovers than m'boro eh?, and I was only 12). Since then, i've considered myself a firm supporter, even getting to see more than enough matches in my many years when I make it back over to England. Obviously, I've taken the last years farcical moments very hard, but I can't help but think there is one thing that bothers me more than anything else... When I speak to people about Blackburn, (both at home and in Norway) they show a massive lack of understanding to our situation, having not seen anything on the news or mainstream papers about 80% of what has happened here. When I try to "educate" them on the matters, they just show an apathy. If this piece that Andy wrote had come out earlier, I can't help but believe that others might have picked up on it, and it would have been given more attention. Even sky news ran articles about LET spearheading the campaign to have lord haw haw removed back in December. There was a start of a momentum there, and we had a chance for a development. Instead, pressure was eased, and the fans took the brunt of the blame. I'd like to see this article pushed at more mainstream papers, harder questions asked, and if Andy Cryer isn't up to the job of asking them questions, pass it on to someone who is. On the whole, this article was good. 5 months too late, and is merely a reminder to us about what lead to Monday nights defeat. I beg the LET to keep up the pressure and deal venkys and Lord Haw Haw the attention they really deserve! 100% Rovers 0% Venkys 0% Lord Haw Haw
exactly
the let should have had the cojones (balls) to say all this 5 months ago
[quote][p][bold]Norway_blackburn_fan[/bold] wrote: I've been quiet for a very long time now and watching the forums everyday here in Norway. I had to stand by and watch my beloved Rovers be torn apart by forces of evil, and not being able to do a thing. I started supporting Rovers in 1992 when Stuart Ripley made the move from Middlesbrough to Rovers. Being family, I followed him (better supporting Rovers than m'boro eh?, and I was only 12). Since then, i've considered myself a firm supporter, even getting to see more than enough matches in my many years when I make it back over to England. Obviously, I've taken the last years farcical moments very hard, but I can't help but think there is one thing that bothers me more than anything else... When I speak to people about Blackburn, (both at home and in Norway) they show a massive lack of understanding to our situation, having not seen anything on the news or mainstream papers about 80% of what has happened here. When I try to "educate" them on the matters, they just show an apathy. If this piece that Andy wrote had come out earlier, I can't help but believe that others might have picked up on it, and it would have been given more attention. Even sky news ran articles about LET spearheading the campaign to have lord haw haw removed back in December. There was a start of a momentum there, and we had a chance for a development. Instead, pressure was eased, and the fans took the brunt of the blame. I'd like to see this article pushed at more mainstream papers, harder questions asked, and if Andy Cryer isn't up to the job of asking them questions, pass it on to someone who is. On the whole, this article was good. 5 months too late, and is merely a reminder to us about what lead to Monday nights defeat. I beg the LET to keep up the pressure and deal venkys and Lord Haw Haw the attention they really deserve! 100% Rovers 0% Venkys 0% Lord Haw Haw[/p][/quote]exactly the let should have had the cojones (balls) to say all this 5 months ago hugofakenham

10:28pm Wed 9 May 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
You are completely wrong. Everybody isnt laughing. The majority are intelligent enough to see the implications and are actually fans of football. You lot arent. The only amusement I had when your club was relegated was the expected but by the day after, I had little interest. It was normal rivalry. Yours is borne from something much deeper and is abnormal. It over-rides all rational behaviour
What d'ya expect from a sister pounder?
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]You are completely wrong. Everybody isnt laughing. The majority are intelligent enough to see the implications and are actually fans of football. You lot arent. The only amusement I had when your club was relegated was the expected but by the day after, I had little interest. It was normal rivalry. Yours is borne from something much deeper and is abnormal. It over-rides all rational behaviour[/p][/quote]What d'ya expect from a sister pounder? Keep Darwen Green

11:00pm Wed 9 May 12

Verona says...

Hang on,
Hang on, Verona

11:04pm Wed 9 May 12

gleechy says...

Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice.

When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.
I think you just went right over their heads, you should know by now, if you're going to talk to the simples. you have to use few and short words, too many confuses them.
[quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice. When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.[/p][/quote]I think you just went right over their heads, you should know by now, if you're going to talk to the simples. you have to use few and short words, too many confuses them. gleechy

11:06pm Wed 9 May 12

gleechy says...

who r u wrote:
just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets

DARE TO DREAM
WE LOVE KEAN
so he called you a pratt then, nice one pratt.
[quote][p][bold]who r u[/bold] wrote: just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets DARE TO DREAM WE LOVE KEAN[/p][/quote]so he called you a pratt then, nice one pratt. gleechy

11:07pm Wed 9 May 12

Verona says...

Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league?
Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.
Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league? Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual. Verona

11:14pm Wed 9 May 12

Verona says...

Verona wrote:
Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league?
Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.
Spot on me, I am right as always. An honest man doing his best, a family man facing adversity and running the gauntlet of fat slobs who have never kicked a ball in their lives telling a decent man that it's ALL HIS FAULT.
Not one of those fans would have the bottle to take the flak Steve Kean has. You Morons.
[quote][p][bold]Verona[/bold] wrote: Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league? Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.[/p][/quote]Spot on me, I am right as always. An honest man doing his best, a family man facing adversity and running the gauntlet of fat slobs who have never kicked a ball in their lives telling a decent man that it's ALL HIS FAULT. Not one of those fans would have the bottle to take the flak Steve Kean has. You Morons. Verona

11:15pm Wed 9 May 12

whittaker0 says...

wilyrover wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
"The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome?
The man who had Allardyce sacked, the man who had John Williams and other amazing top level staff sacked, the man who made Steve Kean, his mate, manager?

Yeah I wonder why they don't name him. There's arguably most of the blame against Jerome Anderson. He's arguably the person who has done by far the most damage to Blackburn Rovers in it's history.

His son was a good signing as well!
The signing of Myles Anderson really should have set the alarm bells ringing. Here was a 'player' who had failed miserably at both Leyton Orient and Aberdeen being signed up on a three year contract. Obviously logic was going out of the window and Daddy Anderson was using the club as a vehicle to park his son at in order that he could hold on to his dream of being a professional footballer. People have been allowed to exploit this club for their own selfish reasons, including Kean, who will never make a football manager and who will never get another job in the game, if we ever manage to get him out of the door. The one guy who genuinely had the best interests of the club at heart i.e. Paul Hunt, if the rumours are correct, has been sacked. What a sad, sorry mess of a club we have become.
As an addition your concerns about Myles Anderson. A lot of money changed hands between conflicting parties which suggests to me that this transfer was not in the interests of the directors of Blackburn Rovers as we officially know them. But an almost under the table deal between Myles Anderson's agent and father and Myles Anderson's client Steve Kean with commission payable or if you like a cut on a deal which appears to be appears to be just a paper transaction. Myles Anderson could have been signed for £1m as a cleaner and frankly would have been more useful to Blackburn Rovers.
[quote][p][bold]wilyrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: "The people who have advised Venky’s also deserve criticism." - why are the Telegraph so scared of naming Jerome?[/p][/quote]The man who had Allardyce sacked, the man who had John Williams and other amazing top level staff sacked, the man who made Steve Kean, his mate, manager? Yeah I wonder why they don't name him. There's arguably most of the blame against Jerome Anderson. He's arguably the person who has done by far the most damage to Blackburn Rovers in it's history. His son was a good signing as well![/p][/quote]The signing of Myles Anderson really should have set the alarm bells ringing. Here was a 'player' who had failed miserably at both Leyton Orient and Aberdeen being signed up on a three year contract. Obviously logic was going out of the window and Daddy Anderson was using the club as a vehicle to park his son at in order that he could hold on to his dream of being a professional footballer. People have been allowed to exploit this club for their own selfish reasons, including Kean, who will never make a football manager and who will never get another job in the game, if we ever manage to get him out of the door. The one guy who genuinely had the best interests of the club at heart i.e. Paul Hunt, if the rumours are correct, has been sacked. What a sad, sorry mess of a club we have become.[/p][/quote]As an addition your concerns about Myles Anderson. A lot of money changed hands between conflicting parties which suggests to me that this transfer was not in the interests of the directors of Blackburn Rovers as we officially know them. But an almost under the table deal between Myles Anderson's agent and father and Myles Anderson's client Steve Kean with commission payable or if you like a cut on a deal which appears to be appears to be just a paper transaction. Myles Anderson could have been signed for £1m as a cleaner and frankly would have been more useful to Blackburn Rovers. whittaker0

11:24pm Wed 9 May 12

Verona says...

Every season clubs get relegated,most decent fans accept it as a fact of football life, Rovers fans are it seems the exception. Not for them the reality of coming last because the other teams played better, oh no,for them it has to be some undignified drama about boardrooms and daft letters, inept manager, crazy owners, poor signings, wrong colour of blue in the bogs, too much salt in the crisps. Are you lot totally insane or what ????
Every season clubs get relegated,most decent fans accept it as a fact of football life, Rovers fans are it seems the exception. Not for them the reality of coming last because the other teams played better, oh no,for them it has to be some undignified drama about boardrooms and daft letters, inept manager, crazy owners, poor signings, wrong colour of blue in the bogs, too much salt in the crisps. Are you lot totally insane or what ???? Verona

11:27pm Wed 9 May 12

Verona says...

rovers are a football team
rovers are a football team Verona

11:28pm Wed 9 May 12

gleechy says...

Verona wrote:
Verona wrote:
Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league?
Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.
Spot on me, I am right as always. An honest man doing his best, a family man facing adversity and running the gauntlet of fat slobs who have never kicked a ball in their lives telling a decent man that it's ALL HIS FAULT.
Not one of those fans would have the bottle to take the flak Steve Kean has. You Morons.
Yes of course deary, now get back in the Jacket, your bus will be arriving soon to take you to your happy place, toodloo.
[quote][p][bold]Verona[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Verona[/bold] wrote: Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league? Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.[/p][/quote]Spot on me, I am right as always. An honest man doing his best, a family man facing adversity and running the gauntlet of fat slobs who have never kicked a ball in their lives telling a decent man that it's ALL HIS FAULT. Not one of those fans would have the bottle to take the flak Steve Kean has. You Morons.[/p][/quote]Yes of course deary, now get back in the Jacket, your bus will be arriving soon to take you to your happy place, toodloo. gleechy

11:31pm Wed 9 May 12

flyingv1 says...

who r u wrote:
just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets DARE TO DREAM WE LOVE KEAN
There, their or is it their , there? Not quite sure of your comprehension, and are you sure that all Burnley fans are prats? Your post should be reported as it is not fair on prats
[quote][p][bold]who r u[/bold] wrote: just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets DARE TO DREAM WE LOVE KEAN[/p][/quote]There, their or is it their , there? Not quite sure of your comprehension, and are you sure that all Burnley fans are prats? Your post should be reported as it is not fair on prats flyingv1

11:39pm Wed 9 May 12

Verona says...

You see, nothing.One simple minded retort which implies I am an old person and thus not worth bothering about . And ther you have it, the respnse from the Blackburn faithful is scant, useless, and shambolic. Very poor fans, possibly the worst in living memory, Definatley a disgrace to right minded, free thinkers. Baaaaaaa, as some sheep would say.
You see, nothing.One simple minded retort which implies I am an old person and thus not worth bothering about . And ther you have it, the respnse from the Blackburn faithful is scant, useless, and shambolic. Very poor fans, possibly the worst in living memory, Definatley a disgrace to right minded, free thinkers. Baaaaaaa, as some sheep would say. Verona

12:41am Thu 10 May 12

RAyzersMUM says...

Can we now get rid of the picture of the bald headed lying fudge packer its been up 12months to long already
Can we now get rid of the picture of the bald headed lying fudge packer its been up 12months to long already RAyzersMUM

1:18am Thu 10 May 12

FilWil53 says...

Andy, I agreed with every word until you said Donut's appointment wasn't 'alarming' at the time.
It bloody well was to quite a few fans. You and many others, fans, (KDG) etc, most players, the press and other clubs fans have been playing catch-up ever since.
That's why we have gone down. Apathy both on and off the field.
Andy, I agreed with every word until you said Donut's appointment wasn't 'alarming' at the time. It bloody well was to quite a few fans. You and many others, fans, (KDG) etc, most players, the press and other clubs fans have been playing catch-up ever since. That's why we have gone down. Apathy both on and off the field. FilWil53

1:28am Thu 10 May 12

bluerob says...

Good article Andy, need to get this message across in the nationals.
Good article Andy, need to get this message across in the nationals. bluerob

1:40am Thu 10 May 12

Jimmy Jambone says...

flyingv1 wrote:
who r u wrote:
just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets DARE TO DREAM WE LOVE KEAN
There, their or is it their , there? Not quite sure of your comprehension, and are you sure that all Burnley fans are prats? Your post should be reported as it is not fair on prats
It's grammar, not comprehension. Comprehension is the message you take from what you read, not the message you give from what you write.
[quote][p][bold]flyingv1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]who r u[/bold] wrote: just backed rovers to win the championship at 14/1. the bookies asked me if there was anymore prats that would like to get on this great price so i told them there isnt as they will all be watching there football from there armchairs next season or down at the turf cheering on the mighty clarets DARE TO DREAM WE LOVE KEAN[/p][/quote]There, their or is it their , there? Not quite sure of your comprehension, and are you sure that all Burnley fans are prats? Your post should be reported as it is not fair on prats[/p][/quote]It's grammar, not comprehension. Comprehension is the message you take from what you read, not the message you give from what you write. Jimmy Jambone

2:01am Thu 10 May 12

Gennoe1 says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
Living between the towns,i know plenty of clarets,some good lads amongst them,Spent most of my life giving and taking stick/banter/the ****, and i honestly reckon any Rovers fan looking for sympathy off them on a forum are deluded. I dont think a lot of Rovers fans realise just how bad our jibes(34yrs,dingles,
inbreeds banjos,extended familys etc) have hurt them over the years. In reality almost every single claret i know,whilst chuffed to bits with us going down,admit that whats happening at Ewood is a disgrace,but why would/should that stop the ****-taking? If the boot was on t`other foot id be loving it!
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]Living between the towns,i know plenty of clarets,some good lads amongst them,Spent most of my life giving and taking stick/banter/the ****, and i honestly reckon any Rovers fan looking for sympathy off them on a forum are deluded. I dont think a lot of Rovers fans realise just how bad our jibes(34yrs,dingles, inbreeds banjos,extended familys etc) have hurt them over the years. In reality almost every single claret i know,whilst chuffed to bits with us going down,admit that whats happening at Ewood is a disgrace,but why would/should that stop the ****-taking? If the boot was on t`other foot id be loving it! Gennoe1

2:02am Thu 10 May 12

Jimmy Jambone says...

Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice.

When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.
It's a fair comment Rory. And it's correct. I agree entirely. Rovers fans are right to be pisd off. They got a one off gift off Jack Walker and Venkys and Kean have pisd it away. They should be ashamed. They've broken someone else's property in a careless and ignorant way and won't think twice about not fixing it. It's crass and it turns my stomach.

However, football is all about drama and emotion. Tribes. Us and Them. There's a reason that practically every club in the world has a rival - and those that don't actively seek one.

It's just part of it. You look for your own teams score, then you look for your rival and hope they lose. It's all part of the fun.

In pro wrestling you have the hero and the heel. You need the the heel to love the hero.

Rivalry, yes the dislike is genuine and sometimes even cruel but it's never personal. It's just part of the magic of football.
[quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice. When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.[/p][/quote]It's a fair comment Rory. And it's correct. I agree entirely. Rovers fans are right to be pisd off. They got a one off gift off Jack Walker and Venkys and Kean have pisd it away. They should be ashamed. They've broken someone else's property in a careless and ignorant way and won't think twice about not fixing it. It's crass and it turns my stomach. However, football is all about drama and emotion. Tribes. Us and Them. There's a reason that practically every club in the world has a rival - and those that don't actively seek one. It's just part of it. You look for your own teams score, then you look for your rival and hope they lose. It's all part of the fun. In pro wrestling you have the hero and the heel. You need the the heel to love the hero. Rivalry, yes the dislike is genuine and sometimes even cruel but it's never personal. It's just part of the magic of football. Jimmy Jambone

2:09am Thu 10 May 12

Jimmy Jambone says...

Gennoe1 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
Living between the towns,i know plenty of clarets,some good lads amongst them,Spent most of my life giving and taking stick/banter/the ****, and i honestly reckon any Rovers fan looking for sympathy off them on a forum are deluded. I dont think a lot of Rovers fans realise just how bad our jibes(34yrs,dingles,

inbreeds banjos,extended familys etc) have hurt them over the years. In reality almost every single claret i know,whilst chuffed to bits with us going down,admit that whats happening at Ewood is a disgrace,but why would/should that stop the ****-taking? If the boot was on t`other foot id be loving it!
Amen to that brother.

But when were internet forums ever the home of rational opinion and balanced criticism?
[quote][p][bold]Gennoe1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]Living between the towns,i know plenty of clarets,some good lads amongst them,Spent most of my life giving and taking stick/banter/the ****, and i honestly reckon any Rovers fan looking for sympathy off them on a forum are deluded. I dont think a lot of Rovers fans realise just how bad our jibes(34yrs,dingles, inbreeds banjos,extended familys etc) have hurt them over the years. In reality almost every single claret i know,whilst chuffed to bits with us going down,admit that whats happening at Ewood is a disgrace,but why would/should that stop the ****-taking? If the boot was on t`other foot id be loving it![/p][/quote]Amen to that brother. But when were internet forums ever the home of rational opinion and balanced criticism? Jimmy Jambone

3:16am Thu 10 May 12

mersey-blues says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice.

When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.
I accept some of what you say but, when you support a team it is unconditional warts and all. The vast majority of current Rovers fans only became fans during the Walker era and barring a couple of seasons they have been rewarded with PL football.
It is 25 years almost to the day that Burnley played and beat Orient to stay in the Football League. I can assure you that compared to that day your problems are miniscule. Accrington Stanley went bankrupt in 1962 and took until recently to fight their way back in the FL.
Certainly during our dark days of 25 years ago we received nothing but vile abuse from 99% of Rovers fans.
If you are old enough to remember the late fifties and 60`s you will know that Burnley were the vastly superior of the 2 east lancs clubs. The 90`s to date has been Blackburns time. Next season may or may not see the power swing back in Burnleys favour. Whatever happens I will be a Claret and I suspect you will always be a Blue.
You talk about the uncertainty surrounding your club. You have been relegated, thats all. Nobody has died, it happens to 3 clubs every season. If you dont agree how the club is being run, stay away and starve them of cash. Cash is the only reason they are there.
Hopefully Bolton will be joining us and Blackpool will stay down. Nothing against them but 6 local derbies a season sounds good to me.
I recall the day that BFC stayed up at Leyton Orient. I would have been about 8 at the time and my dad had taken me to watch Rovers at Oldham on the dreaded plastic pitch and I am sure we got humped. As was the case then we were penned into the ground afterwards and the Burnley score was read out and I recall a majority of Rovers supporters were actually pleased because of the implications that would have had for you as a football club.
Now you can say support your club regardless and that used to be my feeling, however it is no longer our club and as daft as it sounds BRFC as things stand are no more. (I had been a season ticket holder for more than 20 years).
I do not feel that there is any arrogance in that!
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]I completely accept that we're no different from Preston or Stanley, except that neither Preston or Stanley have been taken over by shysters who appear to be hell bent on taking everything they can from the club, freezing out the fans, and doing so all the while with an antagonistic, joke of a man at the forefront. Yes, we had some substantial investment from JW - a Blackburn lad that wanted to see his club achieve great things - but just because we have enjoyed an artificial elevated position doesn't make it any more ethical for the next owners to pi55 it away in the disgusting manner that they have. Blackburn fans don't expect to win all the time, they don't expect PL status, but they do expect for the club to maintain a level of fit and proper practice. When Burnley were relegated, as you expected I thoroughly enjoyed it, as I'm sure you enjoyed our demise under Kidd. But this isn't just about Rovers relegation, is it? It's about the uncertainty surrounding the future of a football club full stop.[/p][/quote]I accept some of what you say but, when you support a team it is unconditional warts and all. The vast majority of current Rovers fans only became fans during the Walker era and barring a couple of seasons they have been rewarded with PL football. It is 25 years almost to the day that Burnley played and beat Orient to stay in the Football League. I can assure you that compared to that day your problems are miniscule. Accrington Stanley went bankrupt in 1962 and took until recently to fight their way back in the FL. Certainly during our dark days of 25 years ago we received nothing but vile abuse from 99% of Rovers fans. If you are old enough to remember the late fifties and 60`s you will know that Burnley were the vastly superior of the 2 east lancs clubs. The 90`s to date has been Blackburns time. Next season may or may not see the power swing back in Burnleys favour. Whatever happens I will be a Claret and I suspect you will always be a Blue. You talk about the uncertainty surrounding your club. You have been relegated, thats all. Nobody has died, it happens to 3 clubs every season. If you dont agree how the club is being run, stay away and starve them of cash. Cash is the only reason they are there. Hopefully Bolton will be joining us and Blackpool will stay down. Nothing against them but 6 local derbies a season sounds good to me.[/p][/quote]I recall the day that BFC stayed up at Leyton Orient. I would have been about 8 at the time and my dad had taken me to watch Rovers at Oldham on the dreaded plastic pitch and I am sure we got humped. As was the case then we were penned into the ground afterwards and the Burnley score was read out and I recall a majority of Rovers supporters were actually pleased because of the implications that would have had for you as a football club. Now you can say support your club regardless and that used to be my feeling, however it is no longer our club and as daft as it sounds BRFC as things stand are no more. (I had been a season ticket holder for more than 20 years). I do not feel that there is any arrogance in that! mersey-blues

5:07am Thu 10 May 12

Roverthere says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.
Idiot!
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]Idiot! Roverthere

6:00am Thu 10 May 12

craftandgraft says...

At last Keano has seen the light.

Breaking news.......

He's just announced that BRFC squad to face Chelsea will wear black armbands out of respect for Vidal Sasson;who has passed away aged 84 in Los Angeles.

' It's a dark day for me personally and all those connected to BRFC '

Steven Kean 10/05/2012.

www.brsit.co.uk

Arte et Labore
ps. he went on to suggest that Vidal Sassoon ltd. could be BRFC's new sponsor.
At last Keano has seen the light. Breaking news....... He's just announced that BRFC squad to face Chelsea will wear black armbands out of respect for Vidal Sasson;who has passed away aged 84 in Los Angeles. ' It's a dark day for me personally and all those connected to BRFC ' Steven Kean 10/05/2012. www.brsit.co.uk Arte et Labore ps. he went on to suggest that Vidal Sassoon ltd. could be BRFC's new sponsor. craftandgraft

6:15am Thu 10 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

Commitments made as part of the offer made for the purchase of the club (see pages 5/6 of offer);

The Venky's Board has given assurances to BRFCI that Venky's:

(a) will commit funds on a consistent and systematic basis to future transfer and/or loan activity;

(b) intends to continue to support the existing management team and staff, and that it is committed to
the future development of, and investment in, the Club’s academy and youth infrastructure;

(c) will continue to support, promote and extend the Club’s local community and CSR activities (VH
and its subsidiaries have their own trust engaged in significant charitable work);

(d) will seek to extend the Blackburn Rovers name and brand into India, the rest of south-east Asia
and beyond;

(e) will seek to develop and improve commercial performance across sponsorship, the Club's kit deal
and general merchandising activity;

(f) will seek to enhance the fan experience at Ewood Park itself on match days (and non match
days) and to maximise season ticket sales and any remaining match day ticket sales; and

(g) intends to improve the Club’s media platforms (for example the Club's TV channel) and to
become more active in the social media space).

Anyone like to find one they havehonoured? I'm struggling..........
..
Commitments made as part of the offer made for the purchase of the club (see pages 5/6 of offer); The Venky's Board has given assurances to BRFCI that Venky's: (a) will commit funds on a consistent and systematic basis to future transfer and/or loan activity; (b) intends to continue to support the existing management team and staff, and that it is committed to the future development of, and investment in, the Club’s academy and youth infrastructure; (c) will continue to support, promote and extend the Club’s local community and CSR activities (VH and its subsidiaries have their own trust engaged in significant charitable work); (d) will seek to extend the Blackburn Rovers name and brand into India, the rest of south-east Asia and beyond; (e) will seek to develop and improve commercial performance across sponsorship, the Club's kit deal and general merchandising activity; (f) will seek to enhance the fan experience at Ewood Park itself on match days (and non match days) and to maximise season ticket sales and any remaining match day ticket sales; and (g) intends to improve the Club’s media platforms (for example the Club's TV channel) and to become more active in the social media space). Anyone like to find one they havehonoured? I'm struggling.......... .. samsno2millfan

6:16am Thu 10 May 12

craftandgraft says...

More breaking news.......

Venkys Hatcheries have started legal proceedings against the chicken that invaded the pitch on Monday.

' We can't stand for this sort of behaviour from chickens '

Mrs Desai 10/05/2012

Arte et Labore.
ps. the chicken has so far refused to comment and is currently lying low in a secret hideaway with 12 **** as bodyguards.
More breaking news....... Venkys Hatcheries have started legal proceedings against the chicken that invaded the pitch on Monday. ' We can't stand for this sort of behaviour from chickens ' Mrs Desai 10/05/2012 Arte et Labore. ps. the chicken has so far refused to comment and is currently lying low in a secret hideaway with 12 **** as bodyguards. craftandgraft

7:29am Thu 10 May 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Verona wrote:
Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league?
Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.
You talk sh*te, He wasn't good enough. End of, or perhaps you would like him managing your team???
[quote][p][bold]Verona[/bold] wrote: Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league? Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.[/p][/quote]You talk sh*te, He wasn't good enough. End of, or perhaps you would like him managing your team??? Harwoodstblue

7:31am Thu 10 May 12

1952 rover says...

Has this man Kean got any Honour, anyone else would have said i take full blame for what has happend and RESIGN.
He must be the most arrogant man on this planet. He know's the fan's, Now the player's do not want him and he still spouts his dross, Walkers Trust enjoy your money. Hang your heads in shame. And Kean just do the roght thing for the sake of the fan's and the future of BRFC,
Has this man Kean got any Honour, anyone else would have said i take full blame for what has happend and RESIGN. He must be the most arrogant man on this planet. He know's the fan's, Now the player's do not want him and he still spouts his dross, Walkers Trust enjoy your money. Hang your heads in shame. And Kean just do the roght thing for the sake of the fan's and the future of BRFC, 1952 rover

7:41am Thu 10 May 12

Verona says...

Talk sport just had a reporter saying how well Kean has done this season. Having to fly out to India every five minutes whilst the owners tried to balance the books.Kean had also to shore up a weakened team and attempt to compete with what was left at the highest level of english football.The journalist commented that this was no easy task. Overall, Kean had done well not to finish rock bottom, only relegated due to other factors beyond his control. Added to all of this, he has had to deal with atrocious campaign by a rabble of so called fans and no nothing local media types.
Talk sport just had a reporter saying how well Kean has done this season. Having to fly out to India every five minutes whilst the owners tried to balance the books.Kean had also to shore up a weakened team and attempt to compete with what was left at the highest level of english football.The journalist commented that this was no easy task. Overall, Kean had done well not to finish rock bottom, only relegated due to other factors beyond his control. Added to all of this, he has had to deal with atrocious campaign by a rabble of so called fans and no nothing local media types. Verona

7:56am Thu 10 May 12

The Blocked One says...

Article in The Independent says the same year those tw*ts bought BRFC, they paid 130000 for a vaccine plant in Switzerland ... shows exactly where their priorities lie ... do everyone a favour Kean and f*ck off, you are a disgrace, and take those stingy w**s with you.
Article in The Independent says the same year those tw*ts bought BRFC, they paid 130000 for a vaccine plant in Switzerland ... shows exactly where their priorities lie ... do everyone a favour Kean and f*ck off, you are a disgrace, and take those stingy w**s with you. The Blocked One

7:58am Thu 10 May 12

Roverthere says...

Verona wrote:
Talk sport just had a reporter saying how well Kean has done this season. Having to fly out to India every five minutes whilst the owners tried to balance the books.Kean had also to shore up a weakened team and attempt to compete with what was left at the highest level of english football.The journalist commented that this was no easy task. Overall, Kean had done well not to finish rock bottom, only relegated due to other factors beyond his control. Added to all of this, he has had to deal with atrocious campaign by a rabble of so called fans and no nothing local media types.
Did the reporter work for the advisors. Let's face it at any other club he would not have had to put up with abuse, because he would have been removed as manager long before the situation and incompetence got to this level! whilst the owners are utimately responsible, Kean has constantly lied and spouted drival to the supporters and has shown, by results and actions that he is not up to the job. My advise to Venky's is get him out ASAP and start to repair the damage and fan relationships.
[quote][p][bold]Verona[/bold] wrote: Talk sport just had a reporter saying how well Kean has done this season. Having to fly out to India every five minutes whilst the owners tried to balance the books.Kean had also to shore up a weakened team and attempt to compete with what was left at the highest level of english football.The journalist commented that this was no easy task. Overall, Kean had done well not to finish rock bottom, only relegated due to other factors beyond his control. Added to all of this, he has had to deal with atrocious campaign by a rabble of so called fans and no nothing local media types.[/p][/quote]Did the reporter work for the advisors. Let's face it at any other club he would not have had to put up with abuse, because he would have been removed as manager long before the situation and incompetence got to this level! whilst the owners are utimately responsible, Kean has constantly lied and spouted drival to the supporters and has shown, by results and actions that he is not up to the job. My advise to Venky's is get him out ASAP and start to repair the damage and fan relationships. Roverthere

8:00am Thu 10 May 12

The Blocked One says...

Apologies, 130m
Apologies, 130m The Blocked One

8:05am Thu 10 May 12

The Blocked One says...

Verona wrote:
Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league?
Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.
F*ck off, Mrs Kean, go and lick your mate Mrs Desai, it's your fault we're in this mess, you divvy b*tch.
[quote][p][bold]Verona[/bold] wrote: Right, let's have a bit of honesty here, if Steve Kean retains his job, and the Venky 's are still holding the purse strings next season. What would the reaction of the idiots be if Rovers dominated the Championship league? Can you really see all those moaning Minnie's waving bits of damp cardboard signs , and abusing the gaffer like no other manager in living memory has been abused.I have seen witless thugs screaming foul mouthed abuse at him whilst having their young children with them. Who would want that .It'll all be conveniently forgotten if success is to come. He has had barely any support from the owners, yet he remains positive. The imbecillic crowd bay for his blood like a pack of hounds.The bloke tried his best, the thick mob love to have a target, wrong one as usual.[/p][/quote]F*ck off, Mrs Kean, go and lick your mate Mrs Desai, it's your fault we're in this mess, you divvy b*tch. The Blocked One

8:22am Thu 10 May 12

greenscreener says...

Andy Cryer, I'm not subject to the same constraints as you so let me summarise -

It all went wrong when Anderson sold Venkys a scheme to raise their profile buying a cheap, stable Premier league club.

Through incredibly bad advice and mismanagement the cracks quickly appeared and what was originally opportunism turned to panic and outright asset stripping.

The on pitch performance is a direct result of hopeless management of the squad and terrible tactics from a shameless man playing at being a manager and lining his pockets.

The fans have seen it all along, but cannot compete against a professional media manipulator.

Follow the money to find the truth.

Where's the transfer income gone really gone ?

How much of Rovers 'spend' ends up back in the Agents pockets ?
Andy Cryer, I'm not subject to the same constraints as you so let me summarise - It all went wrong when Anderson sold Venkys a scheme to raise their profile buying a cheap, stable Premier league club. Through incredibly bad advice and mismanagement the cracks quickly appeared and what was originally opportunism turned to panic and outright asset stripping. The on pitch performance is a direct result of hopeless management of the squad and terrible tactics from a shameless man playing at being a manager and lining his pockets. The fans have seen it all along, but cannot compete against a professional media manipulator. Follow the money to find the truth. Where's the transfer income gone really gone ? How much of Rovers 'spend' ends up back in the Agents pockets ? greenscreener

9:07am Thu 10 May 12

Rory257 says...

Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Gennoe1 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Rory257 wrote:
FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.
Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No.
As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty.
How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront.
Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.
Living between the towns,i know plenty of clarets,some good lads amongst them,Spent most of my life giving and taking stick/banter/the ****, and i honestly reckon any Rovers fan looking for sympathy off them on a forum are deluded. I dont think a lot of Rovers fans realise just how bad our jibes(34yrs,dingles,


inbreeds banjos,extended familys etc) have hurt them over the years. In reality almost every single claret i know,whilst chuffed to bits with us going down,admit that whats happening at Ewood is a disgrace,but why would/should that stop the ****-taking? If the boot was on t`other foot id be loving it!
Amen to that brother.

But when were internet forums ever the home of rational opinion and balanced criticism?
It isn't about expecting sympathy, you miss my point. If you read back to the initial comment, Rovers fans are accused of arrogance, and 'welcomed to the real world'. This is where I took issue. In an earlier comment in response to this article, I actually stated 'by all means, hold parties for Rovers relegation.' I would if it was Burnley. Bask in our misfortune. But recognise that Rovers fans' grievance is for much more than just relegation, and the implications we're facing go beyond town rivalry. Anybody who refers to themselves as a football fan should be able to respect that this is not about Rovers fans throwing their dummy out the pram or crying because they expect PL status, it is a genuine fear that this is the sorry and corrupt end of a football club. That should translate the same whether it's United, Blackburn, Accrington or Grimsby. It is plain wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gennoe1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rory257[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]As much as I dislike certain local rivals, I would not wish what has happened at my club on anyone. Not United, not Yeovil, not BFC. As a football fan, you should be able to appreciate that what Venky's have done and are doing to a previously well-run football club is simply not right. End of. Clearly you're so blinded by hatred that you find it difficult to adopt any level of maturity on the matter.[/p][/quote]Rory, you are the perfect example of the ARROGANCE I refer to. Do you expect anybody to feel sorry for you. Not a chance. Is everybody laughing at you. **** right they are. Did I feel sorry for Pompey etc ....No. Do I feel sorry for Rangers.....No. As a football fan you have to take the good with the bad, the wins with the losses. Celebrate the good times but never take them as a God given right. You reap what you sow and Rovers have sown plenty. How much abuse did Rovers fans heap on The Clarets when they were relegated. Tons and tons. No doubt you were at the forefront. Get rid of your arrogance and accept that you are no different to Preston or Accrington Stanley and you might,just might, get a better response from your rivals.[/p][/quote]Living between the towns,i know plenty of clarets,some good lads amongst them,Spent most of my life giving and taking stick/banter/the ****, and i honestly reckon any Rovers fan looking for sympathy off them on a forum are deluded. I dont think a lot of Rovers fans realise just how bad our jibes(34yrs,dingles, inbreeds banjos,extended familys etc) have hurt them over the years. In reality almost every single claret i know,whilst chuffed to bits with us going down,admit that whats happening at Ewood is a disgrace,but why would/should that stop the ****-taking? If the boot was on t`other foot id be loving it![/p][/quote]Amen to that brother. But when were internet forums ever the home of rational opinion and balanced criticism?[/p][/quote]It isn't about expecting sympathy, you miss my point. If you read back to the initial comment, Rovers fans are accused of arrogance, and 'welcomed to the real world'. This is where I took issue. In an earlier comment in response to this article, I actually stated 'by all means, hold parties for Rovers relegation.' I would if it was Burnley. Bask in our misfortune. But recognise that Rovers fans' grievance is for much more than just relegation, and the implications we're facing go beyond town rivalry. Anybody who refers to themselves as a football fan should be able to respect that this is not about Rovers fans throwing their dummy out the pram or crying because they expect PL status, it is a genuine fear that this is the sorry and corrupt end of a football club. That should translate the same whether it's United, Blackburn, Accrington or Grimsby. It is plain wrong. Rory257

9:47am Thu 10 May 12

jimbo22350 says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day.

As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to the real world.
People in glass house's shouldn't throw stones (in your case being a dingle straw!)
Have you forgotten Bob Lord!
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Walkers Trust due diligence extended only so far as to ensure they got paid. They had no interest in what happened to BRFC after they left and do not have any interest to this day. As for the players, management, supporters, LET and Jack Straw, the only word I can use is ARROGANCE. You all thought you were bigger and better than you really were. Its oh so easy to spend other peoples money. Jack Walker bought you all a few good years. Now its time for you all to pay the price. Never has been and never will be any such thing as a free lunch. Welcome to the real world.[/p][/quote]People in glass house's shouldn't throw stones (in your case being a dingle straw!) Have you forgotten Bob Lord! jimbo22350

9:50am Thu 10 May 12

greenscreener says...

Kerimoglu wrote:
Really struggling to put my feelings into words, me, my Dad, and my 12 year old son are Rovers through and through, but we cannot bring ourselves to give these people and'that man' any more of our very hard earned money. I am extremely angry, and heartbroken, that our Saturday afternoon ritual, a tradition, 3 generations of Rovers, and thousands like us have been disregarded by the Walker Trust, Venkys, and 'that man' but it is no longer enjoyable. We will probably follow away from home locally, but that feeling when you turn the corner into Nuttall St and see the ground that Jack built, that feeling that made you smile, that made you feel like you belonged to something, something you could relate to, be connected to, our Blackburn Rovers..that feeling has gone. National ( London Media) claim that 'that man' has been wrongly abused, that he is a husband and father as well, and i have taken this on board before coming to a final conclusion. However, i can still say categorically that if 'that man' was my Father, or son, i would be ashamed. I can only hope that he could read this and have some understanding of this, and what he has done to thousands upon thousands of loyal, local supporters of our great Club. To Venkys, you have probably fulfilled our worst fears upon seeing you on our pitch that very first time, after all, gut feeling is rarely wrong. To 'that man',shame on you, hang your head in shame.No matter what they say, your family know what you are, and they are embarrassed and ashamed...you should be their hero, but they know deep down. I wouldn't swap with you for all the money in the world. RTID.
Another excellent post, true fans are disgusted with what has happened to BRFC.

This is not another bunch of supporters whining about relegation, we've had that before, and behaved with more dignity than most.

This time people are watching the deliberate rape and pilage of a club that has been an important part of their lives.
[quote][p][bold]Kerimoglu[/bold] wrote: Really struggling to put my feelings into words, me, my Dad, and my 12 year old son are Rovers through and through, but we cannot bring ourselves to give these people and'that man' any more of our very hard earned money. I am extremely angry, and heartbroken, that our Saturday afternoon ritual, a tradition, 3 generations of Rovers, and thousands like us have been disregarded by the Walker Trust, Venkys, and 'that man' but it is no longer enjoyable. We will probably follow away from home locally, but that feeling when you turn the corner into Nuttall St and see the ground that Jack built, that feeling that made you smile, that made you feel like you belonged to something, something you could relate to, be connected to, our Blackburn Rovers..that feeling has gone. National ( London Media) claim that 'that man' has been wrongly abused, that he is a husband and father as well, and i have taken this on board before coming to a final conclusion. However, i can still say categorically that if 'that man' was my Father, or son, i would be ashamed. I can only hope that he could read this and have some understanding of this, and what he has done to thousands upon thousands of loyal, local supporters of our great Club. To Venkys, you have probably fulfilled our worst fears upon seeing you on our pitch that very first time, after all, gut feeling is rarely wrong. To 'that man',shame on you, hang your head in shame.No matter what they say, your family know what you are, and they are embarrassed and ashamed...you should be their hero, but they know deep down. I wouldn't swap with you for all the money in the world. RTID.[/p][/quote]Another excellent post, true fans are disgusted with what has happened to BRFC. This is not another bunch of supporters whining about relegation, we've had that before, and behaved with more dignity than most. This time people are watching the deliberate rape and pilage of a club that has been an important part of their lives. greenscreener

11:00am Thu 10 May 12

Rory257 says...

Verona wrote:
Every season clubs get relegated,most decent fans accept it as a fact of football life, Rovers fans are it seems the exception. Not for them the reality of coming last because the other teams played better, oh no,for them it has to be some undignified drama about boardrooms and daft letters, inept manager, crazy owners, poor signings, wrong colour of blue in the bogs, too much salt in the crisps. Are you lot totally insane or what ????
What an ignorant comment. Don't you see that this is not about relegation? We've no board left, the club is being run into the ground by shysters, we are on the brink of being stripped of our assets, and what's worse we can see it unfolding before our eyes and we're completely powerless. I can only assume you aren't a football fan, as you have demonstrated absolutely zero comprehension of the situation. Should that be the case I will accept defeat. I could argue this until blue in the face and the seriousness of the situation would still fail to dawn in your somewhat vacuous mind.
[quote][p][bold]Verona[/bold] wrote: Every season clubs get relegated,most decent fans accept it as a fact of football life, Rovers fans are it seems the exception. Not for them the reality of coming last because the other teams played better, oh no,for them it has to be some undignified drama about boardrooms and daft letters, inept manager, crazy owners, poor signings, wrong colour of blue in the bogs, too much salt in the crisps. Are you lot totally insane or what ????[/p][/quote]What an ignorant comment. Don't you see that this is not about relegation? We've no board left, the club is being run into the ground by shysters, we are on the brink of being stripped of our assets, and what's worse we can see it unfolding before our eyes and we're completely powerless. I can only assume you aren't a football fan, as you have demonstrated absolutely zero comprehension of the situation. Should that be the case I will accept defeat. I could argue this until blue in the face and the seriousness of the situation would still fail to dawn in your somewhat vacuous mind. Rory257

2:54pm Thu 10 May 12

keithnewton2 says...

Venkys, Kean and Anderson will all stick around for a couple more years until the money dries up.
Venkys, Kean and Anderson will all stick around for a couple more years until the money dries up. keithnewton2

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