Rovers fans efforts deserve huge applause

4:13pm Thursday 7th June 2012 in News Photograph of the Author By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter

AS the chaos and inactivity around Ewood Park continues, the buzz about the club potentially being up for sale inevitably grows and grows.

It is almost as though Rovers have been put in lockdown with board members in England in the dark about what is going on and Venky’s staff in India silenced by their bosses.

Whether this means the owners are considering a sale, I still have my doubts. But, whatever is going on, this is no way to run a club.

Venky’s have yet to state they are ‘up for sale’ but that hasn’t stopped at least two groups continuing their plans to try and rescue the flagging club.

Both have their merits in different ways and, while they have their critics, no one can argue that those behind these efforts don’t have Rovers’ best interests at heart.

The fans attempts, led by Wayne Wild, to bring the club into community ownership has been transparent from the outset.

They have told everyone what they are planning to do, what their bid would involve and why they are going to such painstaking efforts to raise the funds necessary.

The efforts of corporate finance partners Seneca Partners, led by Rovers fans Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, is undoubtedly shrouded in more secrecy but that does not make it any less worthwhile.

Dealing with stinking rich investment bankers and businessmen, the nature of the business means they have to keep things confidential and on a need to know basis.

There is no way they could nail their colours to the fans trust’s mast due to their business model.

That is not to say if Seneca’s bid ever came to fruition that there would not be a part for the fans to play. Far from it.

They would want to re-engage the community and would want to restore a management structure to the club that has so sadly been lacking under Venky’s control – or lack of it.

The two Ians are not on a power trip here. They don’t want to be seen playing at being football owners and in the boardroom ‘larging’ it up on match days.

They would bring people back to the club capable of running the it – the likes of Tom Finn and John Williams would surely be high up on their agenda – and would just look to restore some of the pride that has been lost.

It is important to say neither may work. The trust may not raise the capital needed to buy the club while Seneca might never get past the first hurdle.

But at least they are trying. The football club may have become a laughing stock in recent times but the club’s supporters have done themselves proud by showing they are not going to just sit back and let the club collapse.

There are plenty of noises being made that other suitors are ready to take the club out of Venky’s hands. But BRSIT and Seneca are the only ones to so far make their interest known.

I applaud the vision behind both.

I am sure Anuradha Desai could find a suitor from abroad ready to buy from them if she wanted but surely staying local would be best for everyone concerned.

We have seen what happens when people who have no real affinity with Rovers look to buy it. I’m not sure any of us could go through a repeat of the last 18 months.

It has to be said Venky’s might not be going anywhere. If they decide they have had enough, though, at least there are people around who care.

Comments (74)

4:26pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Wittoner says...

I will say that the Rovers will NOT be for sale at the very least for the next eighteen months at that point the parachute payments will be all but running out,the value of the club will be diminished by the sale of any player with any value and obvious the pocketing of the parachute money,Kean will be allowed to see out his contract as that would save any compensation payment to him,,i am amazed that you Andy do not see all this and scream it from the rooftops,,expose these people now,and claim the glory when it all comes to fruition,,you or i or anyone else can do anything about it,,but at least THEY will know we are aware of what they are upto,,come on Andy scream it from the rooftops.
I will say that the Rovers will NOT be for sale at the very least for the next eighteen months at that point the parachute payments will be all but running out,the value of the club will be diminished by the sale of any player with any value and obvious the pocketing of the parachute money,Kean will be allowed to see out his contract as that would save any compensation payment to him,,i am amazed that you Andy do not see all this and scream it from the rooftops,,expose these people now,and claim the glory when it all comes to fruition,,you or i or anyone else can do anything about it,,but at least THEY will know we are aware of what they are upto,,come on Andy scream it from the rooftops. Wittoner

4:26pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

This week Cheryl Cole lets down her country.

Next week her ex-husband will be doing it.
This week Cheryl Cole lets down her country. Next week her ex-husband will be doing it. makaveli96

4:28pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

Andy Murray has a new phone number 6-3 6-2 6-1, but don't bother phoning...He's out.
Andy Murray has a new phone number 6-3 6-2 6-1, but don't bother phoning...He's out. makaveli96

4:29pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

I wonder how long it would take for a giraffe to throw up.......
I wonder how long it would take for a giraffe to throw up....... makaveli96

4:34pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

I took Gok Wan to The Natural History Museum in London. They have a database of every living thing on the planet.

Unfortunately, they didn't have a clue either.
I took Gok Wan to The Natural History Museum in London. They have a database of every living thing on the planet. Unfortunately, they didn't have a clue either. makaveli96

4:35pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

As I was sat in the Chinese restaurant last night, my wife said to me, "What made you decide to go with the duck?"

"He's better company," I replied, putting the phone down.
As I was sat in the Chinese restaurant last night, my wife said to me, "What made you decide to go with the duck?" "He's better company," I replied, putting the phone down. makaveli96

4:37pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

There are 3.6 billion women in the world and I just made my own sandwich.
There are 3.6 billion women in the world and I just made my own sandwich. makaveli96

4:38pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Bluegoose says...

What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on.
What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on. Bluegoose

4:38pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Bluegoose says...

What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on.
What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on. Bluegoose

4:38pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

The Queen's Jubilee.

Nothing makes us feel more British than behaving like North Koreans.
The Queen's Jubilee. Nothing makes us feel more British than behaving like North Koreans. makaveli96

4:39pm Thu 7 Jun 12

craftandgraft says...

When all the details of what has actually happened and is still happening at BRFC are out in the open and proven;it will be the biggest scandal in football ever.

The fans role/efforts will be nationally acknowledged;in the meantime thankyou to Andy Cryer for recognizing it at this stage.

' They ' will have be forced to sell eventually.

Arte et Labore
ps.macyvelli......it
's the way you tell 'em.
When all the details of what has actually happened and is still happening at BRFC are out in the open and proven;it will be the biggest scandal in football ever. The fans role/efforts will be nationally acknowledged;in the meantime thankyou to Andy Cryer for recognizing it at this stage. ' They ' will have be forced to sell eventually. Arte et Labore ps.macyvelli......it 's the way you tell 'em. craftandgraft

4:40pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

I don't know what's worse. Prince Phillip using a feeble excuse to get out of the jubilee celebrations or the queen for believing him.
I don't know what's worse. Prince Phillip using a feeble excuse to get out of the jubilee celebrations or the queen for believing him. makaveli96

4:42pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Coeur de Lion says...

Bluegoose wrote:
What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on.
Eh!
[quote][p][bold]Bluegoose[/bold] wrote: What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on.[/p][/quote]Eh! Coeur de Lion

4:43pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

Only in England would 70,000 people stand for hours and hours, just to see their favourite queen on the stage.

Elton John.
Only in England would 70,000 people stand for hours and hours, just to see their favourite queen on the stage. Elton John. makaveli96

4:45pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Coeur de Lion says...

If anyone buys Rovers I hope that their first act is to sack everyone in a position of authority under the current regime.
If anyone buys Rovers I hope that their first act is to sack everyone in a position of authority under the current regime. Coeur de Lion

4:45pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

After 5 long years working at the zoo taking care of the koalas I finally applied for promotion to look after the elephants. Sadly though, I didn't the job.Apparently my koalifications were irrelephant for the job.
After 5 long years working at the zoo taking care of the koalas I finally applied for promotion to look after the elephants. Sadly though, I didn't the job.Apparently my koalifications were irrelephant for the job. makaveli96

4:47pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

My wife came rushing into the kitchen, shouting, "Where's my mother's ashes gone?"

I said, "Can you remember the bad weather we had in January?"

She said, "Yes."

I said, "Well I used them to treat the icy path."
My wife came rushing into the kitchen, shouting, "Where's my mother's ashes gone?" I said, "Can you remember the bad weather we had in January?" She said, "Yes." I said, "Well I used them to treat the icy path." makaveli96

4:50pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

A flotilla of 1000 boats sailed up the Thames yesterday in honour of the Queen's Dismond Jubilee . A spokesman for the Guinness Book of Records confirmed it as the greatest concentration of seamen for an 86 year old grandmother , beating Wayne Rooney's previous record .
A flotilla of 1000 boats sailed up the Thames yesterday in honour of the Queen's Dismond Jubilee . A spokesman for the Guinness Book of Records confirmed it as the greatest concentration of seamen for an 86 year old grandmother , beating Wayne Rooney's previous record . makaveli96

4:58pm Thu 7 Jun 12

PpMac says...

Anuradha Desai

makaveli96.....make a joke out of that!!?
Anuradha Desai makaveli96.....make a joke out of that!!? PpMac

4:59pm Thu 7 Jun 12

sparky_iom says...

Silence is golden, especially if you are benefiting from it. I won't hold my breath that we will get new owners. I'd say keep up the pressure, but pressure is only capable of being applied if there is something to apply it to. As we have absent owners and an absent management team, who is there to absorb any pressure.

There's only one way to sort this out, stay away for the home games and support the away games and instead of chanting "Kean out", chant "There's only one Jack Walker". Hopefully that will get the message across that the current owners and management team aren't wanted. Unfortunately the down side to this tactic is that the true heart of the club will suffer as further cut-backs are made to protect the wages and ego's of the upper echelons!

Arte et Labore
Silence is golden, especially if you are benefiting from it. I won't hold my breath that we will get new owners. I'd say keep up the pressure, but pressure is only capable of being applied if there is something to apply it to. As we have absent owners and an absent management team, who is there to absorb any pressure. There's only one way to sort this out, stay away for the home games and support the away games and instead of chanting "Kean out", chant "There's only one Jack Walker". Hopefully that will get the message across that the current owners and management team aren't wanted. Unfortunately the down side to this tactic is that the true heart of the club will suffer as further cut-backs are made to protect the wages and ego's of the upper echelons! Arte et Labore sparky_iom

5:03pm Thu 7 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

PpMac wrote:
Anuradha Desai makaveli96.....make a joke out of that!!?
My parents have gone to India with some friends.

Mumbai?

No, she's straight, but I don't think it's that kind of trip anyway.
[quote][p][bold]PpMac[/bold] wrote: Anuradha Desai makaveli96.....make a joke out of that!!?[/p][/quote]My parents have gone to India with some friends. Mumbai? No, she's straight, but I don't think it's that kind of trip anyway. makaveli96

5:08pm Thu 7 Jun 12

garyintandem says...

How can Agnew say he's a Rovers fan and accept the coin of these people. Agnew, if you've got any balls and decency the first thing you'll do is sack Kean and find a proper manager.
You should also let the Rovers fans know what the plans are for the close season
How can Agnew say he's a Rovers fan and accept the coin of these people. Agnew, if you've got any balls and decency the first thing you'll do is sack Kean and find a proper manager. You should also let the Rovers fans know what the plans are for the close season garyintandem

5:08pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Dukes says...

we want venkys out right now and all prtotest and etc will not stop until you lot are out of the door.

please FA put the pressure on and look after the fans who have been true hell.

I will never take VENKYS to my heart Desai and the team should be shame off them self.

just sell up you money grabbers.
we want venkys out right now and all prtotest and etc will not stop until you lot are out of the door. please FA put the pressure on and look after the fans who have been true hell. I will never take VENKYS to my heart Desai and the team should be shame off them self. just sell up you money grabbers. Dukes

5:09pm Thu 7 Jun 12

norah bhatty says...

It is very sad, that life long supporters of BRFC should even have to consider staying away and not buying season tickets, but recent events (or rather lack of) gives them no choice. The very thought of attending matches and having to watch Kean's antics, is to some repulsive. Even Venky's will soon realise that no money in the coffers does their cause no favours at all. I would rather donate or even lose money than give it to the current owners of BRFC. Pure ignorant or pure arrogant which one is it?
It is very sad, that life long supporters of BRFC should even have to consider staying away and not buying season tickets, but recent events (or rather lack of) gives them no choice. The very thought of attending matches and having to watch Kean's antics, is to some repulsive. Even Venky's will soon realise that no money in the coffers does their cause no favours at all. I would rather donate or even lose money than give it to the current owners of BRFC. Pure ignorant or pure arrogant which one is it? norah bhatty

5:11pm Thu 7 Jun 12

KeanandVenkysDontCare says...

Andy ,, theres a bigger problem and you havent mentioned it..
Venkys cant sell because they cant sack Kean,, a real mystery !! there is an hidden corrupt cash hidden agenda ,, they will asset strip it then dissapear. So its not a clean deal for anyone to buy,, any deal with anyone is thwart with major legal problems,, all created by Crook Kean and Anderson. Venkys in their stupidity believed and trusted in them and are now in a real confused mess. Stay well away investors untill the club goes into administration..Quot
e me in 2 seasons
Andy ,, theres a bigger problem and you havent mentioned it.. Venkys cant sell because they cant sack Kean,, a real mystery !! there is an hidden corrupt cash hidden agenda ,, they will asset strip it then dissapear. So its not a clean deal for anyone to buy,, any deal with anyone is thwart with major legal problems,, all created by Crook Kean and Anderson. Venkys in their stupidity believed and trusted in them and are now in a real confused mess. Stay well away investors untill the club goes into administration..Quot e me in 2 seasons KeanandVenkysDontCare

5:24pm Thu 7 Jun 12

bypass06 says...

norah bhatty wrote:
It is very sad, that life long supporters of BRFC should even have to consider staying away and not buying season tickets, but recent events (or rather lack of) gives them no choice. The very thought of attending matches and having to watch Kean's antics, is to some repulsive. Even Venky's will soon realise that no money in the coffers does their cause no favours at all. I would rather donate or even lose money than give it to the current owners of BRFC. Pure ignorant or pure arrogant which one is it?
Both.
[quote][p][bold]norah bhatty[/bold] wrote: It is very sad, that life long supporters of BRFC should even have to consider staying away and not buying season tickets, but recent events (or rather lack of) gives them no choice. The very thought of attending matches and having to watch Kean's antics, is to some repulsive. Even Venky's will soon realise that no money in the coffers does their cause no favours at all. I would rather donate or even lose money than give it to the current owners of BRFC. Pure ignorant or pure arrogant which one is it?[/p][/quote]Both. bypass06

5:34pm Thu 7 Jun 12

PpMac says...

KeanandVenkysDontCar
e wrote:
Andy ,, theres a bigger problem and you havent mentioned it.. Venkys cant sell because they cant sack Kean,, a real mystery !! there is an hidden corrupt cash hidden agenda ,, they will asset strip it then dissapear. So its not a clean deal for anyone to buy,, any deal with anyone is thwart with major legal problems,, all created by Crook Kean and Anderson. Venkys in their stupidity believed and trusted in them and are now in a real confused mess. Stay well away investors untill the club goes into administration..Quot e me in 2 seasons
I'd like to second that, but up the antte to administration within the next 12 months....under this lot!
[quote][p][bold]KeanandVenkysDontCar e[/bold] wrote: Andy ,, theres a bigger problem and you havent mentioned it.. Venkys cant sell because they cant sack Kean,, a real mystery !! there is an hidden corrupt cash hidden agenda ,, they will asset strip it then dissapear. So its not a clean deal for anyone to buy,, any deal with anyone is thwart with major legal problems,, all created by Crook Kean and Anderson. Venkys in their stupidity believed and trusted in them and are now in a real confused mess. Stay well away investors untill the club goes into administration..Quot e me in 2 seasons[/p][/quote]I'd like to second that, but up the antte to administration within the next 12 months....under this lot! PpMac

5:44pm Thu 7 Jun 12

greenscreener says...

PpMac wrote:
KeanandVenkysDontCar e wrote: Andy ,, theres a bigger problem and you havent mentioned it.. Venkys cant sell because they cant sack Kean,, a real mystery !! there is an hidden corrupt cash hidden agenda ,, they will asset strip it then dissapear. So its not a clean deal for anyone to buy,, any deal with anyone is thwart with major legal problems,, all created by Crook Kean and Anderson. Venkys in their stupidity believed and trusted in them and are now in a real confused mess. Stay well away investors untill the club goes into administration..Quot e me in 2 seasons
I'd like to second that, but up the antte to administration within the next 12 months....under this lot!
Had the same thoughts myself for a while now.

To sell the club would require a degree of disclosure that would expose the real finances of the last 18 months.

They (kean, Andreson, Venkys) simply won't and can't let that happen.

Expect a mysterious fire shortly before the administrators are called in.
[quote][p][bold]PpMac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeanandVenkysDontCar e[/bold] wrote: Andy ,, theres a bigger problem and you havent mentioned it.. Venkys cant sell because they cant sack Kean,, a real mystery !! there is an hidden corrupt cash hidden agenda ,, they will asset strip it then dissapear. So its not a clean deal for anyone to buy,, any deal with anyone is thwart with major legal problems,, all created by Crook Kean and Anderson. Venkys in their stupidity believed and trusted in them and are now in a real confused mess. Stay well away investors untill the club goes into administration..Quot e me in 2 seasons[/p][/quote]I'd like to second that, but up the antte to administration within the next 12 months....under this lot![/p][/quote]Had the same thoughts myself for a while now. To sell the club would require a degree of disclosure that would expose the real finances of the last 18 months. They (kean, Andreson, Venkys) simply won't and can't let that happen. Expect a mysterious fire shortly before the administrators are called in. greenscreener

6:05pm Thu 7 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

makaveli96 wrote:
A flotilla of 1000 boats sailed up the Thames yesterday in honour of the Queen's Dismond Jubilee . A spokesman for the Guinness Book of Records confirmed it as the greatest concentration of seamen for an 86 year old grandmother , beating Wayne Rooney's previous record .
Sorry i think even the venky ar*se licker kean ,agnew would find that very hard to swollow.
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: A flotilla of 1000 boats sailed up the Thames yesterday in honour of the Queen's Dismond Jubilee . A spokesman for the Guinness Book of Records confirmed it as the greatest concentration of seamen for an 86 year old grandmother , beating Wayne Rooney's previous record .[/p][/quote]Sorry i think even the venky ar*se licker kean ,agnew would find that very hard to swollow. alfa111

6:19pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

An investment group would want a return. You simply don't get that at Ewood unless you start from a high base, destroy the club by selling all the best assets and milk the parachute payments like Venky's have. So there could be no correlation between the aims of an investment group and the fans?
.
A fans group would at least invest what they could and work at Break Even as an objective?
An investment group would want a return. You simply don't get that at Ewood unless you start from a high base, destroy the club by selling all the best assets and milk the parachute payments like Venky's have. So there could be no correlation between the aims of an investment group and the fans? . A fans group would at least invest what they could and work at Break Even as an objective? Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

6:31pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Shaun Johnson says...

Wittoner wrote:
I will say that the Rovers will NOT be for sale at the very least for the next eighteen months at that point the parachute payments will be all but running out,the value of the club will be diminished by the sale of any player with any value and obvious the pocketing of the parachute money,Kean will be allowed to see out his contract as that would save any compensation payment to him,,i am amazed that you Andy do not see all this and scream it from the rooftops,,expose these people now,and claim the glory when it all comes to fruition,,you or i or anyone else can do anything about it,,but at least THEY will know we are aware of what they are upto,,come on Andy scream it from the rooftops.
Well said
[quote][p][bold]Wittoner[/bold] wrote: I will say that the Rovers will NOT be for sale at the very least for the next eighteen months at that point the parachute payments will be all but running out,the value of the club will be diminished by the sale of any player with any value and obvious the pocketing of the parachute money,Kean will be allowed to see out his contract as that would save any compensation payment to him,,i am amazed that you Andy do not see all this and scream it from the rooftops,,expose these people now,and claim the glory when it all comes to fruition,,you or i or anyone else can do anything about it,,but at least THEY will know we are aware of what they are upto,,come on Andy scream it from the rooftops.[/p][/quote]Well said Shaun Johnson

6:35pm Thu 7 Jun 12

craftandgraft says...

One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements.

I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays.

Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time.

Arte et Labore
ps. Keano should take care in Kracow.
One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements. I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays. Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time. Arte et Labore ps. Keano should take care in Kracow. craftandgraft

6:47pm Thu 7 Jun 12

whittaker0 says...

craftandgraft wrote:
One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements.

I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays.

Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time.

Arte et Labore
ps. Keano should take care in Kracow.
Good point and I certainly hope you are right. Well worth lobbying the FA to ensure that they go through every transaction with a fine tooth comb. A full audit could well show up a number of financial anomalies; I hope that the FA are particularly diligent and examine every transaction closely. Fingers crossed this maybe the start of the end of the Venkys, Kean and Anderson and their involvement in Blackburn Rovers Football Club.
[quote][p][bold]craftandgraft[/bold] wrote: One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements. I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays. Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time. Arte et Labore ps. Keano should take care in Kracow.[/p][/quote]Good point and I certainly hope you are right. Well worth lobbying the FA to ensure that they go through every transaction with a fine tooth comb. A full audit could well show up a number of financial anomalies; I hope that the FA are particularly diligent and examine every transaction closely. Fingers crossed this maybe the start of the end of the Venkys, Kean and Anderson and their involvement in Blackburn Rovers Football Club. whittaker0

7:01pm Thu 7 Jun 12

nontetleysdog says...

Coeur de Lion wrote:
Bluegoose wrote:
What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on.
Eh!
The windows at "bluegoons special school" are sparkling clean.
[quote][p][bold]Coeur de Lion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bluegoose[/bold] wrote: What a load of crap! buzzing theirs no buzzing renewing season tickets and rovers will be lucky to get over 8000 fans per game. The venkys are pulling your CHICKEN LEGS and rovers fans should be kept a BREAST what going on.[/p][/quote]Eh![/p][/quote]The windows at "bluegoons special school" are sparkling clean. nontetleysdog

7:08pm Thu 7 Jun 12

craftandgraft says...

whittaker0 says...

craftandgraft wrote:
One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements.

I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays.

Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time.

Arte et Labore
ps. Keano should take care in Kracow.

Good point and I certainly hope you are right. Well worth lobbying the FA to ensure that they go through every transaction with a fine tooth comb. A full audit could well show up a number of financial anomalies; I hope that the FA are particularly diligent and examine every transaction closely. Fingers crossed this maybe the start of the end of the Venkys, Kean and Anderson and their involvement in Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

As I understand it;a full FA investigation is 'ongoing' (including the takeover).

Other bodies will naturally be brought in: FSA, FIFA, UEFA and the Police.

'Greed is good' ......Gordon Gecko.

Arte et Labore.
ps. Al Capone got caught on tax issues.
whittaker0 says... craftandgraft wrote: One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements. I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays. Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time. Arte et Labore ps. Keano should take care in Kracow. Good point and I certainly hope you are right. Well worth lobbying the FA to ensure that they go through every transaction with a fine tooth comb. A full audit could well show up a number of financial anomalies; I hope that the FA are particularly diligent and examine every transaction closely. Fingers crossed this maybe the start of the end of the Venkys, Kean and Anderson and their involvement in Blackburn Rovers Football Club. As I understand it;a full FA investigation is 'ongoing' (including the takeover). Other bodies will naturally be brought in: FSA, FIFA, UEFA and the Police. 'Greed is good' ......Gordon Gecko. Arte et Labore. ps. Al Capone got caught on tax issues. craftandgraft

7:24pm Thu 7 Jun 12

wampam says...

perhaps we could all donate a couple of quid to hire a decent pi to dig the dirt. a week should do it. these people have their ways. strange things happening at the moment methinks
perhaps we could all donate a couple of quid to hire a decent pi to dig the dirt. a week should do it. these people have their ways. strange things happening at the moment methinks wampam

7:28pm Thu 7 Jun 12

craftandgraft says...

It wouldn't take Sherlock Holmes to catch these jokers out.

Columbo could do it in his sleep.

Arte et Labore
It wouldn't take Sherlock Holmes to catch these jokers out. Columbo could do it in his sleep. Arte et Labore craftandgraft

7:38pm Thu 7 Jun 12

philmoulden says...

norah bhatty wrote:
It is very sad, that life long supporters of BRFC should even have to consider staying away and not buying season tickets, but recent events (or rather lack of) gives them no choice. The very thought of attending matches and having to watch Kean's antics, is to some repulsive. Even Venky's will soon realise that no money in the coffers does their cause no favours at all. I would rather donate or even lose money than give it to the current owners of BRFC. Pure ignorant or pure arrogant which one is it?
good post
[quote][p][bold]norah bhatty[/bold] wrote: It is very sad, that life long supporters of BRFC should even have to consider staying away and not buying season tickets, but recent events (or rather lack of) gives them no choice. The very thought of attending matches and having to watch Kean's antics, is to some repulsive. Even Venky's will soon realise that no money in the coffers does their cause no favours at all. I would rather donate or even lose money than give it to the current owners of BRFC. Pure ignorant or pure arrogant which one is it?[/p][/quote]good post philmoulden

7:53pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Rover Pete says...

Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off. Rover Pete

8:09pm Thu 7 Jun 12

happiness says...

craftandgraft wrote:
When all the details of what has actually happened and is still happening at BRFC are out in the open and proven;it will be the biggest scandal in football ever.

The fans role/efforts will be nationally acknowledged;in the meantime thankyou to Andy Cryer for recognizing it at this stage.

' They ' will have be forced to sell eventually.

Arte et Labore
ps.macyvelli......it

's the way you tell 'em.
Indeed. And what will vastly overpaid, so called 'fans favourite' Dunny have to say then??? Sorry you lot! Sorry I told you ALL to 'get real' but the fact IS you all got it RIGHT!! Sorry I said 'NOBODY cares more than the players and manager, NOBODY', but then it turns out YOU were RIGHT and I WAS WRONG all along, half of them now want to leave, and that nobody ACTUALLY, REALLY cares more than the PEOPLE WHO PAY MY WAGES...YOU SUPPORTERS.....ever so sorry!!!!! Some chance. Instead, they will probably use him for advertising again, sporting the new relegation to division one home shirt 2012/2013. Oh yes, silly me, they already have!! Not only will I never set foot inside Ewood again until this whole regime are gone, I've also unsubscribed to Rovers' e-mail service. That picture of a rather smug looking Dunn grates so much. But not nearly as much as the lack of a full apology from him, or the fact that we are now the worst run club in the football league!!!!
[quote][p][bold]craftandgraft[/bold] wrote: When all the details of what has actually happened and is still happening at BRFC are out in the open and proven;it will be the biggest scandal in football ever. The fans role/efforts will be nationally acknowledged;in the meantime thankyou to Andy Cryer for recognizing it at this stage. ' They ' will have be forced to sell eventually. Arte et Labore ps.macyvelli......it 's the way you tell 'em.[/p][/quote]Indeed. And what will vastly overpaid, so called 'fans favourite' Dunny have to say then??? Sorry you lot! Sorry I told you ALL to 'get real' but the fact IS you all got it RIGHT!! Sorry I said 'NOBODY cares more than the players and manager, NOBODY', but then it turns out YOU were RIGHT and I WAS WRONG all along, half of them now want to leave, and that nobody ACTUALLY, REALLY cares more than the PEOPLE WHO PAY MY WAGES...YOU SUPPORTERS.....ever so sorry!!!!! Some chance. Instead, they will probably use him for advertising again, sporting the new relegation to division one home shirt 2012/2013. Oh yes, silly me, they already have!! Not only will I never set foot inside Ewood again until this whole regime are gone, I've also unsubscribed to Rovers' e-mail service. That picture of a rather smug looking Dunn grates so much. But not nearly as much as the lack of a full apology from him, or the fact that we are now the worst run club in the football league!!!! happiness

8:10pm Thu 7 Jun 12

cboyer says...

every day i keep checking back in the hope i see a bit of good news like venkys selling or kean sacked but everyday i am getting more and more stressed and cant understand how this is being allowed to happen money really has spoilt football and it really makes me sad and angry what the hell is going on?
every day i keep checking back in the hope i see a bit of good news like venkys selling or kean sacked but everyday i am getting more and more stressed and cant understand how this is being allowed to happen money really has spoilt football and it really makes me sad and angry what the hell is going on? cboyer

8:23pm Thu 7 Jun 12

happiness says...

...And the worst thing is, they really believe that employing his buddies Agnew and Hendry, will result in Kean winning the fans over. Those who have renewed. What do you think is going to happen or what are your hopes for next season? Straight back up or a good go at it at the very least? How??? With only a squad full of young inexperienced players and more pound shop 'nobody' imports from abroad, watched by silent, appauling home crowds and laughed at by celebrating away followings every week...!! Renewing is funding a continuation of this utter shambles. Not renewing is the only way we can bleed them dry and start again, at whatever level that may be.
...And the worst thing is, they really believe that employing his buddies Agnew and Hendry, will result in Kean winning the fans over. Those who have renewed. What do you think is going to happen or what are your hopes for next season? Straight back up or a good go at it at the very least? How??? With only a squad full of young inexperienced players and more pound shop 'nobody' imports from abroad, watched by silent, appauling home crowds and laughed at by celebrating away followings every week...!! Renewing is funding a continuation of this utter shambles. Not renewing is the only way we can bleed them dry and start again, at whatever level that may be. happiness

8:39pm Thu 7 Jun 12

needawhistleblower says...

Some of the staff at Brockhall were told today that Agnew reports to Kean. That's right .... the "so called" General Manager reports to the Team Manager. At what other club in the world does this happen? It's about time someone down there had the guts to spill the beans to someone who can investigate and expose the whole sordid corrupt set up.
Some of the staff at Brockhall were told today that Agnew reports to Kean. That's right .... the "so called" General Manager reports to the Team Manager. At what other club in the world does this happen? It's about time someone down there had the guts to spill the beans to someone who can investigate and expose the whole sordid corrupt set up. needawhistleblower

9:45pm Thu 7 Jun 12

BRFC The Peoples Champion says...

Coeur de Lion wrote:
If anyone buys Rovers I hope that their first act is to sack everyone in a position of authority under the current regime.
Fantastic comment. I like your style, first a couple of left jabs setting them up for the big right. Keep up the good work.
[quote][p][bold]Coeur de Lion[/bold] wrote: If anyone buys Rovers I hope that their first act is to sack everyone in a position of authority under the current regime.[/p][/quote]Fantastic comment. I like your style, first a couple of left jabs setting them up for the big right. Keep up the good work. BRFC The Peoples Champion

9:53pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Blue&whiteforever says...

Why does that not suprise me
Why does that not suprise me Blue&whiteforever

10:44pm Thu 7 Jun 12

craftandgraft says...

Did you notice Dunny winking at the bench when leaving the pitch at White Hart Lane?

All will be revealed.

B O Y C O T T T H E crooks O U T

Arte et Labore
Did you notice Dunny winking at the bench when leaving the pitch at White Hart Lane? All will be revealed. B O Y C O T T T H E crooks O U T Arte et Labore craftandgraft

11:33pm Thu 7 Jun 12

Come the Revolution says...

Total P*sstake again from Anderson etc for the Rover's fans. You must think that the fans are that stupid that they cannot see through your money making schemes.
IMHO.
1 Buy a well run Premier League Club ( unfortunately it was BRFC)
2 Remove the existing Manager & Board & replace with a puppet administration.
3 Sell enough of the top players to recoup the initial investment.
4 Sell the rest of the top wage earners to cut down the weekly running costs of the club.
5 Pocket as much of the parachute payments as is legally (in your eyes) possible.
6 Execute an "Exit Strategy" with your ill-gotten gains.
IMHO. You are approaching Stage 6.
I think we will be rid of the most corrupt regime ever in the history of PL football, by mid season. I have given my pledge to BRSIT & I hope they will be in a position to pick up the pieces of our beloved club.
Finally to the "Cowboys & Indians". BRFC fans will never forget what you have done to OUR Club. You are all outsiders & though you have conned us, it won't be a pleasant future having to dodge Rovers fans for the rest of your lives.
P.S. What's happened to that ex Dingle Robert Coar. He's very quiet?.
Total P*sstake again from Anderson etc for the Rover's fans. You must think that the fans are that stupid that they cannot see through your money making schemes. IMHO. 1 Buy a well run Premier League Club ( unfortunately it was BRFC) 2 Remove the existing Manager & Board & replace with a puppet administration. 3 Sell enough of the top players to recoup the initial investment. 4 Sell the rest of the top wage earners to cut down the weekly running costs of the club. 5 Pocket as much of the parachute payments as is legally (in your eyes) possible. 6 Execute an "Exit Strategy" with your ill-gotten gains. IMHO. You are approaching Stage 6. I think we will be rid of the most corrupt regime ever in the history of PL football, by mid season. I have given my pledge to BRSIT & I hope they will be in a position to pick up the pieces of our beloved club. Finally to the "Cowboys & Indians". BRFC fans will never forget what you have done to OUR Club. You are all outsiders & though you have conned us, it won't be a pleasant future having to dodge Rovers fans for the rest of your lives. P.S. What's happened to that ex Dingle Robert Coar. He's very quiet?. Come the Revolution

2:42am Fri 8 Jun 12

gudari says...

I wholeheartedly applaud woevers' fans for being the most spineless, gutless, whingeing , pathetic bunch of jessies ever known in the world of football............
..................an absolute disgrace!!
I wholeheartedly applaud woevers' fans for being the most spineless, gutless, whingeing , pathetic bunch of jessies ever known in the world of football............ ..................an absolute disgrace!! gudari

2:46am Fri 8 Jun 12

gudari says...

wampam wrote:
perhaps we could all donate a couple of quid to hire a decent pi to dig the dirt. a week should do it. these people have their ways. strange things happening at the moment methinks
The way your finances are going to be next season , would that be a meat pi or a steak and kidney pi?????
[quote][p][bold]wampam[/bold] wrote: perhaps we could all donate a couple of quid to hire a decent pi to dig the dirt. a week should do it. these people have their ways. strange things happening at the moment methinks[/p][/quote]The way your finances are going to be next season , would that be a meat pi or a steak and kidney pi????? gudari

5:55am Fri 8 Jun 12

samsno2millfan says...

craftandgraft wrote:
whittaker0 says... craftandgraft wrote: One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements. I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays. Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time. Arte et Labore ps. Keano should take care in Kracow. Good point and I certainly hope you are right. Well worth lobbying the FA to ensure that they go through every transaction with a fine tooth comb. A full audit could well show up a number of financial anomalies; I hope that the FA are particularly diligent and examine every transaction closely. Fingers crossed this maybe the start of the end of the Venkys, Kean and Anderson and their involvement in Blackburn Rovers Football Club. As I understand it;a full FA investigation is 'ongoing' (including the takeover). Other bodies will naturally be brought in: FSA, FIFA, UEFA and the Police. 'Greed is good' ......Gordon Gecko. Arte et Labore. ps. Al Capone got caught on tax issues.
The tax man usually sets the ball rolling in the downfall of a corrupt regime.

Here's hoping.

Kean effectively hiring the people he should have nothing to do with whilst, from a previous post on another article, staff whose appointments the manager SHOULD influence are having to send their CVs to India.

Agnew's elevation to puppet-in-chief leaves us without a press officer or the farcically titled Director of Communication. Venkys have clearly realised any such role is superfluous.

Agnew, from arranging chairs for the press to supposedly running the club;Kevin "7th dan" Costner, from driving the "manager" around to managing the stadium. It really does beggar belief.

Apart from the obvious unhealthy influence Kean has with the owners, I am coming around to the theories being put forward that this goes deeper than the pure, total and complete incompetence of the owners.
[quote][p][bold]craftandgraft[/bold] wrote: whittaker0 says... craftandgraft wrote: One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements. I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays. Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time. Arte et Labore ps. Keano should take care in Kracow. Good point and I certainly hope you are right. Well worth lobbying the FA to ensure that they go through every transaction with a fine tooth comb. A full audit could well show up a number of financial anomalies; I hope that the FA are particularly diligent and examine every transaction closely. Fingers crossed this maybe the start of the end of the Venkys, Kean and Anderson and their involvement in Blackburn Rovers Football Club. As I understand it;a full FA investigation is 'ongoing' (including the takeover). Other bodies will naturally be brought in: FSA, FIFA, UEFA and the Police. 'Greed is good' ......Gordon Gecko. Arte et Labore. ps. Al Capone got caught on tax issues.[/p][/quote]The tax man usually sets the ball rolling in the downfall of a corrupt regime. Here's hoping. Kean effectively hiring the people he should have nothing to do with whilst, from a previous post on another article, staff whose appointments the manager SHOULD influence are having to send their CVs to India. Agnew's elevation to puppet-in-chief leaves us without a press officer or the farcically titled Director of Communication. Venkys have clearly realised any such role is superfluous. Agnew, from arranging chairs for the press to supposedly running the club;Kevin "7th dan" Costner, from driving the "manager" around to managing the stadium. It really does beggar belief. Apart from the obvious unhealthy influence Kean has with the owners, I am coming around to the theories being put forward that this goes deeper than the pure, total and complete incompetence of the owners. samsno2millfan

6:39am Fri 8 Jun 12

lowelife says...

Rover Pete wrote:
Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know?
I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP.
As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club.
All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
[quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse. lowelife

7:34am Fri 8 Jun 12

chickenfarm says...

Rovers fans efforts deserve huge applause - Is that what the staff inside the club think as there are about to lose they jobs. The supporters have gone to far now and need to back the club before the club shop is closed down.
Expect job loses by the end of the month and it will not be Kean or Agnew!
Rovers fans efforts deserve huge applause - Is that what the staff inside the club think as there are about to lose they jobs. The supporters have gone to far now and need to back the club before the club shop is closed down. Expect job loses by the end of the month and it will not be Kean or Agnew! chickenfarm

8:13am Fri 8 Jun 12

KeanandVenkysDontCare says...

lowelife wrote:
Rover Pete wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
Venkys wont give a tomtit about covenents at Ewud and Brockhall. Remmeber the Dog Inn on Revidge BBurn,, the 'new 3rd world owners' took down a protected stone sign before anyone knew without permission, then it was too late.. Venkys will do the same,, one saturday we will go to ewud and it will be a pile of rubble with Jacks girders sticking up. Kean will be in hospital, Agnew will dissapear and Brockhall will be full of chickens.. This is what 3rd world inhumane owners do,,
[quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.[/p][/quote]Venkys wont give a tomtit about covenents at Ewud and Brockhall. Remmeber the Dog Inn on Revidge BBurn,, the 'new 3rd world owners' took down a protected stone sign before anyone knew without permission, then it was too late.. Venkys will do the same,, one saturday we will go to ewud and it will be a pile of rubble with Jacks girders sticking up. Kean will be in hospital, Agnew will dissapear and Brockhall will be full of chickens.. This is what 3rd world inhumane owners do,, KeanandVenkysDontCare

8:14am Fri 8 Jun 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

BRFC is dead. Any expectations that Venkys’ despised administration can plot survival in the second tier of English football, using its pitifully inadequate management skills, are about as futile as expecting a corpse to swim the English Channel.

By the time they're finished there won't be anything left to take over apart from a threadbare, ramshackle, no-mark squad full of Bradley Orrs wearing a bastardised kit in a rundown stadium with three mothballed stands.
BRFC is dead. Any expectations that Venkys’ despised administration can plot survival in the second tier of English football, using its pitifully inadequate management skills, are about as futile as expecting a corpse to swim the English Channel. By the time they're finished there won't be anything left to take over apart from a threadbare, ramshackle, no-mark squad full of Bradley Orrs wearing a bastardised kit in a rundown stadium with three mothballed stands. OnePostThenTheOther

8:16am Fri 8 Jun 12

KeanandVenkysDontCare says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
BRFC is dead. Any expectations that Venkys’ despised administration can plot survival in the second tier of English football, using its pitifully inadequate management skills, are about as futile as expecting a corpse to swim the English Channel. By the time they're finished there won't be anything left to take over apart from a threadbare, ramshackle, no-mark squad full of Bradley Orrs wearing a bastardised kit in a rundown stadium with three mothballed stands.
I agree and thats is we are lucky,,
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: BRFC is dead. Any expectations that Venkys’ despised administration can plot survival in the second tier of English football, using its pitifully inadequate management skills, are about as futile as expecting a corpse to swim the English Channel. By the time they're finished there won't be anything left to take over apart from a threadbare, ramshackle, no-mark squad full of Bradley Orrs wearing a bastardised kit in a rundown stadium with three mothballed stands.[/p][/quote]I agree and thats is we are lucky,, KeanandVenkysDontCare

8:43am Fri 8 Jun 12

BJS says...

Rovers fans should google "Dunning Kruger Effect." Remind you of anyone?
Rovers fans should google "Dunning Kruger Effect." Remind you of anyone? BJS

8:50am Fri 8 Jun 12

thommovat says...

lowelife wrote:
Rover Pete wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
Has it been established for definite that the Venky's (or anyone connected with "them") do own Brockhall, for example?
This is surely a matter of pubic record and can be checked with Land Registry? As for future use of Brockhall, they would have to deal with Ribble Valley not Blackburn Council planners-not as pliable!
[quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.[/p][/quote]Has it been established for definite that the Venky's (or anyone connected with "them") do own Brockhall, for example? This is surely a matter of pubic record and can be checked with Land Registry? As for future use of Brockhall, they would have to deal with Ribble Valley not Blackburn Council planners-not as pliable! thommovat

9:04am Fri 8 Jun 12

TheInternationalist says...

gudari wrote:
I wholeheartedly applaud woevers' fans for being the most spineless, gutless, whingeing , pathetic bunch of jessies ever known in the world of football............

..................an absolute disgrace!!
Utterly Transparent Cretin
[quote][p][bold]gudari[/bold] wrote: I wholeheartedly applaud woevers' fans for being the most spineless, gutless, whingeing , pathetic bunch of jessies ever known in the world of football............ ..................an absolute disgrace!![/p][/quote]Utterly Transparent Cretin TheInternationalist

9:48am Fri 8 Jun 12

lowelife says...

chickenfarm wrote:
Rovers fans efforts deserve huge applause - Is that what the staff inside the club think as there are about to lose they jobs. The supporters have gone to far now and need to back the club before the club shop is closed down. Expect job loses by the end of the month and it will not be Kean or Agnew!
If the club shop is a victim of the ineptitude of the current regime, don't blame the fans! The fans protests, be they marching, chanting, writing or witholding financial support by not renewing season tickets, are perfectly valid.
Lay the blame exactly where it belongs, with Kean for his diabolical tenure as manager and the Venky's who must surely be the most clueless owners of any commercial enterprise, ever.
[quote][p][bold]chickenfarm[/bold] wrote: Rovers fans efforts deserve huge applause - Is that what the staff inside the club think as there are about to lose they jobs. The supporters have gone to far now and need to back the club before the club shop is closed down. Expect job loses by the end of the month and it will not be Kean or Agnew![/p][/quote]If the club shop is a victim of the ineptitude of the current regime, don't blame the fans! The fans protests, be they marching, chanting, writing or witholding financial support by not renewing season tickets, are perfectly valid. Lay the blame exactly where it belongs, with Kean for his diabolical tenure as manager and the Venky's who must surely be the most clueless owners of any commercial enterprise, ever. lowelife

9:49am Fri 8 Jun 12

whittaker0 says...

I see the Steve Clarke is likely to be the new West Brom manager. Steve has all the right credentials to make this an excellent and well thought out appointment by West Brom. Steve has an enormous amount of experience in the Premier League including Chelsea and more recently at Liverpool. Blackburn in contrast have made a terrible decision in appointing the least qualified manager in the Premier League and it has resulted in total failure and has cost the owners millions of pounds. The Venkys really need to a grip on their investment and should disregard what Steve Kean has to say and look at the facts in the cold light of day. Steve Kean is bringing this club to it's knees and his tenure at Ewood should be terminated immediately.While other clubs are making the necessary preparations for the new season we are lumbered with this complete failure in charge and heading for the another relegation season. Paul Agnew please note.
I see the Steve Clarke is likely to be the new West Brom manager. Steve has all the right credentials to make this an excellent and well thought out appointment by West Brom. Steve has an enormous amount of experience in the Premier League including Chelsea and more recently at Liverpool. Blackburn in contrast have made a terrible decision in appointing the least qualified manager in the Premier League and it has resulted in total failure and has cost the owners millions of pounds. The Venkys really need to a grip on their investment and should disregard what Steve Kean has to say and look at the facts in the cold light of day. Steve Kean is bringing this club to it's knees and his tenure at Ewood should be terminated immediately.While other clubs are making the necessary preparations for the new season we are lumbered with this complete failure in charge and heading for the another relegation season. Paul Agnew please note. whittaker0

9:58am Fri 8 Jun 12

lowelife says...

thommovat wrote:
lowelife wrote:
Rover Pete wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
Has it been established for definite that the Venky's (or anyone connected with "them") do own Brockhall, for example? This is surely a matter of pubic record and can be checked with Land Registry? As for future use of Brockhall, they would have to deal with Ribble Valley not Blackburn Council planners-not as pliable!
Ewood Park and Brochall are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.
[quote][p][bold]thommovat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.[/p][/quote]Has it been established for definite that the Venky's (or anyone connected with "them") do own Brockhall, for example? This is surely a matter of pubic record and can be checked with Land Registry? As for future use of Brockhall, they would have to deal with Ribble Valley not Blackburn Council planners-not as pliable![/p][/quote]Ewood Park and Brochall are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. lowelife

10:15am Fri 8 Jun 12

What Did I say This Time ? says...

whittaker0 wrote:
I see the Steve Clarke is likely to be the new West Brom manager. Steve has all the right credentials to make this an excellent and well thought out appointment by West Brom. Steve has an enormous amount of experience in the Premier League including Chelsea and more recently at Liverpool. Blackburn in contrast have made a terrible decision in appointing the least qualified manager in the Premier League and it has resulted in total failure and has cost the owners millions of pounds. The Venkys really need to a grip on their investment and should disregard what Steve Kean has to say and look at the facts in the cold light of day. Steve Kean is bringing this club to it's knees and his tenure at Ewood should be terminated immediately.While other clubs are making the necessary preparations for the new season we are lumbered with this complete failure in charge and heading for the another relegation season. Paul Agnew please note.
Cost them millions of pounds ? Are you sure they're not up on the deal ? Yes, they've dived down a division, but they haven't lost money, they just won't be able to trouser as much.
[quote][p][bold]whittaker0[/bold] wrote: I see the Steve Clarke is likely to be the new West Brom manager. Steve has all the right credentials to make this an excellent and well thought out appointment by West Brom. Steve has an enormous amount of experience in the Premier League including Chelsea and more recently at Liverpool. Blackburn in contrast have made a terrible decision in appointing the least qualified manager in the Premier League and it has resulted in total failure and has cost the owners millions of pounds. The Venkys really need to a grip on their investment and should disregard what Steve Kean has to say and look at the facts in the cold light of day. Steve Kean is bringing this club to it's knees and his tenure at Ewood should be terminated immediately.While other clubs are making the necessary preparations for the new season we are lumbered with this complete failure in charge and heading for the another relegation season. Paul Agnew please note.[/p][/quote]Cost them millions of pounds ? Are you sure they're not up on the deal ? Yes, they've dived down a division, but they haven't lost money, they just won't be able to trouser as much. What Did I say This Time ?

10:16am Fri 8 Jun 12

A Darener says...

Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.

More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.?????????
Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.????????? A Darener

10:46am Fri 8 Jun 12

MxMave says...

Wittoner wrote:
I will say that the Rovers will NOT be for sale at the very least for the next eighteen months at that point the parachute payments will be all but running out,the value of the club will be diminished by the sale of any player with any value and obvious the pocketing of the parachute money,Kean will be allowed to see out his contract as that would save any compensation payment to him,,i am amazed that you Andy do not see all this and scream it from the rooftops,,expose these people now,and claim the glory when it all comes to fruition,,you or i or anyone else can do anything about it,,but at least THEY will know we are aware of what they are upto,,come on Andy scream it from the rooftops.
SHOUT, SHOUT, SHOUT AT THE DEVILLLLLLLLL
[quote][p][bold]Wittoner[/bold] wrote: I will say that the Rovers will NOT be for sale at the very least for the next eighteen months at that point the parachute payments will be all but running out,the value of the club will be diminished by the sale of any player with any value and obvious the pocketing of the parachute money,Kean will be allowed to see out his contract as that would save any compensation payment to him,,i am amazed that you Andy do not see all this and scream it from the rooftops,,expose these people now,and claim the glory when it all comes to fruition,,you or i or anyone else can do anything about it,,but at least THEY will know we are aware of what they are upto,,come on Andy scream it from the rooftops.[/p][/quote]SHOUT, SHOUT, SHOUT AT THE DEVILLLLLLLLL MxMave

10:50am Fri 8 Jun 12

lowelife says...

A Darener wrote:
Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.?????????
It is a subsidiary of Venkys London Ltd. The ultimate holding company, owning 99.9% of the shares is Ventateshwara Hatcheries Pvt, registered in India.

It is interesting to note that amongst the small shareholders of the club, Blackburn with Darwen Council hold 250 ordinary shares. Can they use their influence to obtain a meeting with the owners?
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.?????????[/p][/quote]It is a subsidiary of Venkys London Ltd. The ultimate holding company, owning 99.9% of the shares is Ventateshwara Hatcheries Pvt, registered in India. It is interesting to note that amongst the small shareholders of the club, Blackburn with Darwen Council hold 250 ordinary shares. Can they use their influence to obtain a meeting with the owners? lowelife

10:53am Fri 8 Jun 12

A Darener says...

lowelife wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.?????????
It is a subsidiary of Venkys London Ltd. The ultimate holding company, owning 99.9% of the shares is Ventateshwara Hatcheries Pvt, registered in India.

It is interesting to note that amongst the small shareholders of the club, Blackburn with Darwen Council hold 250 ordinary shares. Can they use their influence to obtain a meeting with the owners?
That's what the "official" paperwork may tell us, but is that the full story?
I and many more people think otherwise. Wish it could be proved one way or the other to everybodies satisfaction.
[quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.?????????[/p][/quote]It is a subsidiary of Venkys London Ltd. The ultimate holding company, owning 99.9% of the shares is Ventateshwara Hatcheries Pvt, registered in India. It is interesting to note that amongst the small shareholders of the club, Blackburn with Darwen Council hold 250 ordinary shares. Can they use their influence to obtain a meeting with the owners?[/p][/quote]That's what the "official" paperwork may tell us, but is that the full story? I and many more people think otherwise. Wish it could be proved one way or the other to everybodies satisfaction. A Darener

11:10am Fri 8 Jun 12

French Rover says...

lowelife wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know?
I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP.
As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club.
All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
The parachute payments are 16 million in each year for the first two years.

Then 8 million each year for the third and fourth years.

So it will be four years in total to get the full 48 million.

Hope that Venkys will be gone and we would be back in the prem well before then!
[quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.[/p][/quote]The parachute payments are 16 million in each year for the first two years. Then 8 million each year for the third and fourth years. So it will be four years in total to get the full 48 million. Hope that Venkys will be gone and we would be back in the prem well before then! French Rover

11:29am Fri 8 Jun 12

lowelife says...

A Darener wrote:
lowelife wrote:
A Darener wrote: Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.?????????
It is a subsidiary of Venkys London Ltd. The ultimate holding company, owning 99.9% of the shares is Ventateshwara Hatcheries Pvt, registered in India. It is interesting to note that amongst the small shareholders of the club, Blackburn with Darwen Council hold 250 ordinary shares. Can they use their influence to obtain a meeting with the owners?
That's what the "official" paperwork may tell us, but is that the full story? I and many more people think otherwise. Wish it could be proved one way or the other to everybodies satisfaction.
It is very frustrating and lack of communication does fuel the conspiracy theories.
The accounts, directors details etc are available to buy, for a £1 per item from Companies House.
KPMG are the company auditors and have signed the last accounts to be filed. They would not have signed them off were they not completely happy with them.
They are worth buying though.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Ewood Park and Brochall (sic) are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC. More to the point WHO owns The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.?????????[/p][/quote]It is a subsidiary of Venkys London Ltd. The ultimate holding company, owning 99.9% of the shares is Ventateshwara Hatcheries Pvt, registered in India. It is interesting to note that amongst the small shareholders of the club, Blackburn with Darwen Council hold 250 ordinary shares. Can they use their influence to obtain a meeting with the owners?[/p][/quote]That's what the "official" paperwork may tell us, but is that the full story? I and many more people think otherwise. Wish it could be proved one way or the other to everybodies satisfaction.[/p][/quote]It is very frustrating and lack of communication does fuel the conspiracy theories. The accounts, directors details etc are available to buy, for a £1 per item from Companies House. KPMG are the company auditors and have signed the last accounts to be filed. They would not have signed them off were they not completely happy with them. They are worth buying though. lowelife

11:40am Fri 8 Jun 12

whittaker0 says...

French Rover wrote:
lowelife wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know?
I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP.
As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club.
All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
The parachute payments are 16 million in each year for the first two years.

Then 8 million each year for the third and fourth years.

So it will be four years in total to get the full 48 million.

Hope that Venkys will be gone and we would be back in the prem well before then!
I would have thought that the Premier League should with hold any parachute payments until a number of issues about the club are settled such as who actually owns the club. The Premier League should exercise it's responsibilities and this is an excellent leverage to persuade the Venkys to give legally binding undertakings that they will start to run the club in an orderly fashion. The payments could be either postponed or drip fed rather than giving the Venkys all the money for them to spend as they wish. The Premier League could also postpone payments until the FA have carried out a thorough assessment/audit of Blackburn Rovers.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.[/p][/quote]The parachute payments are 16 million in each year for the first two years. Then 8 million each year for the third and fourth years. So it will be four years in total to get the full 48 million. Hope that Venkys will be gone and we would be back in the prem well before then![/p][/quote]I would have thought that the Premier League should with hold any parachute payments until a number of issues about the club are settled such as who actually owns the club. The Premier League should exercise it's responsibilities and this is an excellent leverage to persuade the Venkys to give legally binding undertakings that they will start to run the club in an orderly fashion. The payments could be either postponed or drip fed rather than giving the Venkys all the money for them to spend as they wish. The Premier League could also postpone payments until the FA have carried out a thorough assessment/audit of Blackburn Rovers. whittaker0

1:56pm Fri 8 Jun 12

What Did I say This Time ? says...

craftandgraft wrote:
One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements.

I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays.

Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time.

Arte et Labore
ps. Keano should take care in Kracow.
Why ? They love loudmouthed bigots.
[quote][p][bold]craftandgraft[/bold] wrote: One of the benefits of moving to the Championship is that there has to be financial disclosure to fulfill FA requirements. I sincerely hope that Kean, Anderson and Agnew enjoy their holidays. Pretty soon they'll be going away for a long time. Arte et Labore ps. Keano should take care in Kracow.[/p][/quote]Why ? They love loudmouthed bigots. What Did I say This Time ?

7:19pm Fri 8 Jun 12

senlac1066 says...

MAKAVELI 96 MAKAVELI 96 !!!!!!!!!!!SHUT UP MORON !!!
MAKAVELI 96 MAKAVELI 96 !!!!!!!!!!!SHUT UP MORON !!! senlac1066

8:27pm Fri 8 Jun 12

French Rover says...

whittaker0 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
lowelife wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know?
I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP.
As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club.
All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
The parachute payments are 16 million in each year for the first two years.

Then 8 million each year for the third and fourth years.

So it will be four years in total to get the full 48 million.

Hope that Venkys will be gone and we would be back in the prem well before then!
I would have thought that the Premier League should with hold any parachute payments until a number of issues about the club are settled such as who actually owns the club. The Premier League should exercise it's responsibilities and this is an excellent leverage to persuade the Venkys to give legally binding undertakings that they will start to run the club in an orderly fashion. The payments could be either postponed or drip fed rather than giving the Venkys all the money for them to spend as they wish. The Premier League could also postpone payments until the FA have carried out a thorough assessment/audit of Blackburn Rovers.
Why would they carry out an investigation? Because we the fans ask for one..? No way will they do anything like that. It would set-up too many legal precedents.

Unless someone can expose and offer proof of illegal happenings in the running of the club then nobody will be prepared to carry out any assessment or investigation of the club. Sad but true.
[quote][p][bold]whittaker0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.[/p][/quote]The parachute payments are 16 million in each year for the first two years. Then 8 million each year for the third and fourth years. So it will be four years in total to get the full 48 million. Hope that Venkys will be gone and we would be back in the prem well before then![/p][/quote]I would have thought that the Premier League should with hold any parachute payments until a number of issues about the club are settled such as who actually owns the club. The Premier League should exercise it's responsibilities and this is an excellent leverage to persuade the Venkys to give legally binding undertakings that they will start to run the club in an orderly fashion. The payments could be either postponed or drip fed rather than giving the Venkys all the money for them to spend as they wish. The Premier League could also postpone payments until the FA have carried out a thorough assessment/audit of Blackburn Rovers.[/p][/quote]Why would they carry out an investigation? Because we the fans ask for one..? No way will they do anything like that. It would set-up too many legal precedents. Unless someone can expose and offer proof of illegal happenings in the running of the club then nobody will be prepared to carry out any assessment or investigation of the club. Sad but true. French Rover

10:09pm Fri 8 Jun 12

French Rover says...

craftandgraft wrote:
Did you notice Dunny winking at the bench when leaving the pitch at White Hart Lane?

All will be revealed.

B O Y C O T T T H E crooks O U T

Arte et Labore
tell us more CAG.....Surely Dunny is not involved with the slime trail these crooks are leaving behind them?
[quote][p][bold]craftandgraft[/bold] wrote: Did you notice Dunny winking at the bench when leaving the pitch at White Hart Lane? All will be revealed. B O Y C O T T T H E crooks O U T Arte et Labore[/p][/quote]tell us more CAG.....Surely Dunny is not involved with the slime trail these crooks are leaving behind them? French Rover

1:03pm Sun 10 Jun 12

ossyrover1 says...

lowelife wrote:
thommovat wrote:
lowelife wrote:
Rover Pete wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.
When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.
Has it been established for definite that the Venky's (or anyone connected with "them") do own Brockhall, for example? This is surely a matter of pubic record and can be checked with Land Registry? As for future use of Brockhall, they would have to deal with Ribble Valley not Blackburn Council planners-not as pliable!
Ewood Park and Brochall are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.
are you sure ?. i didnt think they did.
[quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thommovat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: Venky's will not leave yet. There is still money in the club to be got out. Transfer fees and parachute payments for a start and that still leaves a good ground and training facility to flog off.[/p][/quote]When is the first of the "Parachute Payments" actually received by the club? Does anyone know? I agree that it will be some time before the Venky's depart, awaiting transfer fees and the first, largest PP. As to selling Ewood and Brockall, I belief there are restrictive covenents in place as to their future use, i.e. they cannot be used for property development. Presumably though, they could sell to a banker and lease them back to the club. All in all, the appointments and lack of news, no season ticket information etc just makes matters worse.[/p][/quote]Has it been established for definite that the Venky's (or anyone connected with "them") do own Brockhall, for example? This is surely a matter of pubic record and can be checked with Land Registry? As for future use of Brockhall, they would have to deal with Ribble Valley not Blackburn Council planners-not as pliable![/p][/quote]Ewood Park and Brochall are owned by The Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic PLC.[/p][/quote]are you sure ?. i didnt think they did. ossyrover1

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