Greeks fall short of Formica asking price as Flamengo join the race

9:29am Tuesday 24th January 2012 in Football Photograph of the Author By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter

BLACKBURN Rovers are asking for at least £3.5million for Argentine playmaker Mauro Formica – with Olympiakos’ attempts to get the 23-year-old on the cheap set for failure.

The Greek giants are understood to be ready to pay Rovers £2.5million for him in the summer, first taking him on loan until the end of the season.

Brazilian outfit Flamengo also yesterday joined the race for the in-demand Formica and are ready to attempt to sign him permanently now.

It is believed that Olympiakos want to pay Rovers £400,000 now as a loan fee for Formica.

It is also understood that Rovers wanted it in writing that Olympiakos would make it a permanent switch in the summer should the club suffer Premier League relegation.

Sources close to Olympiakos have confirmed negotiations have started between the clubs but Formica would only be allowed to speak to them once a deal in principle was agreed.

Formica arrived at Ewood Park from Argentinian club Newell’s Old Boys for £3.5m in January 2011 and, after a slow start, has established himself as a regular in the first team squad.

The player has made more appearances than anyone else in Rovers’ squad this season but, with Steve Kean’s transfer budget severely limited this month, Formica’s sale could provide more scope for adding significant signings.

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Rovers boss Kean would be reluctant to allow any of his current squad depart Ewood Park this month as he continues his attempts to add a midfielder and full back before the transfer window shuts.

Formica was reported by media in Argentina last month as stating his desire to quit Ewood Park and return home to be closer to one of his daughters.

A move to Greece would not help with that but, with his brother Lautaro playing in the Greek Superleague at Asteras Tripolis, sources close to Formica have indicated he would be interested in the move.

Rovers though would demand getting their money back having seen the player grow in confidence in the Premier League over the past few months.

He has spent the last couple of games on the substitutes bench but, scoring in a second half cameo against Fulham, has proved a valuable squad member.

It is understood Olympiakos were still some way off meeting Rovers’ demands last night as the midfielder’s future continues to hang in the balance.

Rovers will continue their attempts this week to bolster their squad ahead of the closing of the transfer window next Tuesday, with a centre midfielder and a right back a priority.

Venky’s Brazilian fixer Joao Souza will be in England until the transfer window closes to help efforts to strengthen, although linked midfielder Richarlyson, from Atletico Mineiro, is unlikely to sign.

Comments (92)

9:37am Tue 24 Jan 12

gudari says...

I notice lots of talk on here about players with exotic sounding names and exciting, foreign countries but.........hang on a minute.....they're still talking about blackbum!! Same old......
I notice lots of talk on here about players with exotic sounding names and exciting, foreign countries but.........hang on a minute.....they're still talking about blackbum!! Same old...... gudari

9:38am Tue 24 Jan 12

saint.george says...

Venkys, you should yet again be ashamed of yourselves. Where is the transfer budget ?
Venkys, you should yet again be ashamed of yourselves. Where is the transfer budget ? saint.george

9:38am Tue 24 Jan 12

Russ ov the rovers says...

Instead of getting rid of a player who is actually a regular "first-teamer" hows about getting rid of some of the players we dont play e.g Roberts, Grella, Andrews, Anderson, Bruno Ribero etc etc,

I give up trying to understand second guess the logic at times at BRFC.
Instead of getting rid of a player who is actually a regular "first-teamer" hows about getting rid of some of the players we dont play e.g Roberts, Grella, Andrews, Anderson, Bruno Ribero etc etc, I give up trying to understand second guess the logic at times at BRFC. Russ ov the rovers

9:38am Tue 24 Jan 12

thresholdweller says...

If this is true, it shows how bad the finances are.
If this is true, it shows how bad the finances are. thresholdweller

9:40am Tue 24 Jan 12

Russ ov the rovers says...

saint.george wrote:
Venkys, you should yet again be ashamed of yourselves. Where is the transfer budget ?
LMFAO what budget? the sentence full of sh!t springs to mind.


VENKYS OUT
[quote][p][bold]saint.george[/bold] wrote: Venkys, you should yet again be ashamed of yourselves. Where is the transfer budget ?[/p][/quote]LMFAO what budget? the sentence full of sh!t springs to mind. VENKYS OUT Russ ov the rovers

9:40am Tue 24 Jan 12

A Darener says...

It's like the vultures are gathering over Ewood Park, ready to feed on the carcases of unwanted footballers. Clubs are going to be offering peanuts for players in the hope of getting them on the cheap, just to satisfy the Venky's need for making a quick buck!
It's like the vultures are gathering over Ewood Park, ready to feed on the carcases of unwanted footballers. Clubs are going to be offering peanuts for players in the hope of getting them on the cheap, just to satisfy the Venky's need for making a quick buck! A Darener

10:00am Tue 24 Jan 12

malbymalby says...

sell sell sell, Venkys would clean up on the apprentice!

VENKYS OUT!
sell sell sell, Venkys would clean up on the apprentice! VENKYS OUT! malbymalby

10:03am Tue 24 Jan 12

ChrisSutton says...

Bunch of idiots or crooks. Can't decide which.

Don't sell Formica, he's one of the few good, deserving members of our squad. If he continues to develop he could be in our midfield for years. Great technical ability and finally starting to adjust to the Prem.

VENKYS = LIARS
Bunch of idiots or crooks. Can't decide which. Don't sell Formica, he's one of the few good, deserving members of our squad. If he continues to develop he could be in our midfield for years. Great technical ability and finally starting to adjust to the Prem. VENKYS = LIARS ChrisSutton

10:04am Tue 24 Jan 12

Gaz M says...

With venkys its a case of take ,take, take they have no intention of spending their money on Rovers we are just an advertising vehicle to them and unfortunately for them they are getting bad press all over the media with their inept running of an established premier league club. The sooner they cut their losses and sell the better for all concearned Venkys out!
With venkys its a case of take ,take, take they have no intention of spending their money on Rovers we are just an advertising vehicle to them and unfortunately for them they are getting bad press all over the media with their inept running of an established premier league club. The sooner they cut their losses and sell the better for all concearned Venkys out! Gaz M

10:25am Tue 24 Jan 12

RobbyRover says...

Oh they all want to play for the Rovers don't they! Samba, Formica... Ronaldinho.

Here's this happy camp we're always being told about! The "family club" as Dunny agrees we used to be.

I wonder who the agent would be, should Formica move for the second time in just over 12 months...?

As Russ says we'd be better off getting rid of Roberts, Grella, Goulon etc.

And as for wanting to be near his brother - remember when we signed Julio Santa Cruz to persuade Roque to stay? Could try that again? Oh no wait...
Oh they all want to play for the Rovers don't they! Samba, Formica... Ronaldinho. Here's this happy camp we're always being told about! The "family club" as Dunny agrees we used to be. I wonder who the agent would be, should Formica move for the second time in just over 12 months...? As Russ says we'd be better off getting rid of Roberts, Grella, Goulon etc. And as for wanting to be near his brother - remember when we signed Julio Santa Cruz to persuade Roque to stay? Could try that again? Oh no wait... RobbyRover

10:26am Tue 24 Jan 12

hasslem hasslem says...

Strange, since when was Formica put on the transfer list and where is our beloved manager with his "he's not leaving" speech.
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Seems barmy to me that we (supposedly) paid £3.5m for him (and no doubt some lovely juicy agent's fee) and now we are looking to get rid of him for £3.5m.
.
So, we bought a player with potential for £3.5m and slowly he has developed into a half decent player and regular in the team and now he is worth what we bought him for twelve months earlier.....summat don't add up....no doubt summat to do with player ownership/registrati
on in a joorabchim style tevez/macherano type deal.
Strange, since when was Formica put on the transfer list and where is our beloved manager with his "he's not leaving" speech. . Seems barmy to me that we (supposedly) paid £3.5m for him (and no doubt some lovely juicy agent's fee) and now we are looking to get rid of him for £3.5m. . So, we bought a player with potential for £3.5m and slowly he has developed into a half decent player and regular in the team and now he is worth what we bought him for twelve months earlier.....summat don't add up....no doubt summat to do with player ownership/registrati on in a joorabchim style tevez/macherano type deal. hasslem hasslem

10:30am Tue 24 Jan 12

fitz808 says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Instead of getting rid of a player who is actually a regular "first-teamer" hows about getting rid of some of the players we dont play e.g Roberts, Grella, Andrews, Anderson, Bruno Ribero etc etc, I give up trying to understand second guess the logic at times at BRFC.
i imagine this is because they are actually quite difficult to offload. the club has made no secret about the desire to get rid of most of these.
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: Instead of getting rid of a player who is actually a regular "first-teamer" hows about getting rid of some of the players we dont play e.g Roberts, Grella, Andrews, Anderson, Bruno Ribero etc etc, I give up trying to understand second guess the logic at times at BRFC.[/p][/quote]i imagine this is because they are actually quite difficult to offload. the club has made no secret about the desire to get rid of most of these. fitz808

10:31am Tue 24 Jan 12

fitz808 says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
Bunch of idiots or crooks. Can't decide which. Don't sell Formica, he's one of the few good, deserving members of our squad. If he continues to develop he could be in our midfield for years. Great technical ability and finally starting to adjust to the Prem. VENKYS = LIARS
the problem is that he seemingly want to leave. i dont think the club would be looking to sell if he didn't.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: Bunch of idiots or crooks. Can't decide which. Don't sell Formica, he's one of the few good, deserving members of our squad. If he continues to develop he could be in our midfield for years. Great technical ability and finally starting to adjust to the Prem. VENKYS = LIARS[/p][/quote]the problem is that he seemingly want to leave. i dont think the club would be looking to sell if he didn't. fitz808

10:32am Tue 24 Jan 12

hasslem hasslem says...

on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin.
.
are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters?
.
just thinking.
on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin. . are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters? . just thinking. hasslem hasslem

10:44am Tue 24 Jan 12

Tuo Neak says...

"It is also understood that Rovers wanted it in writing that Olympiakos would make it a permanent switch in the summer should the club suffer Premier League relegation" - what sort of a club is going to agree to a deal like this? What if they loan him and he doesnt adapt to the Greek game like the time its taken to adapt to the English game? Also more importantly why on earth are they trying to sell in the words of Steve Kean "The new Gabriel Batistuta" only one year since he arrived?
"It is also understood that Rovers wanted it in writing that Olympiakos would make it a permanent switch in the summer should the club suffer Premier League relegation" - what sort of a club is going to agree to a deal like this? What if they loan him and he doesnt adapt to the Greek game like the time its taken to adapt to the English game? Also more importantly why on earth are they trying to sell in the words of Steve Kean "The new Gabriel Batistuta" only one year since he arrived? Tuo Neak

10:45am Tue 24 Jan 12

fitz808 says...

interesting point made there haslem. whilst i think some of the stuff at ewood has gone too far, thereby meaning some of the commentors had a point, it once again highlights how it's much easier for the press to stick the boot in to a club like rovers rather than the top teams. when you consider the success of arsenal under wenger, it makes it all the more ridiculous from arsenal fans.
all things considered, it's probably the case that both sets of fans have a point, but should perhaps temper their protest with a bit of realism. whilst the press should try not to cause such a deliberate stir. then again, that doesn't sell newspapers, does it.
not wanting to get all philosophical about it, but it's all becomming a bit of a pantomime nowadays. :)
interesting point made there haslem. whilst i think some of the stuff at ewood has gone too far, thereby meaning some of the commentors had a point, it once again highlights how it's much easier for the press to stick the boot in to a club like rovers rather than the top teams. when you consider the success of arsenal under wenger, it makes it all the more ridiculous from arsenal fans. all things considered, it's probably the case that both sets of fans have a point, but should perhaps temper their protest with a bit of realism. whilst the press should try not to cause such a deliberate stir. then again, that doesn't sell newspapers, does it. not wanting to get all philosophical about it, but it's all becomming a bit of a pantomime nowadays. :) fitz808

10:45am Tue 24 Jan 12

Billypieman says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin.
.
are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters?
.
just thinking.
They reported it without criticising the fans at all. Supporters of the big clubs seemingly deserve success whilst fans of little old Blackburn should be grateful of what they've got. Talksport went a step further, claiming the Arsenal fans were right and Wenger has to go. The same radio station that called Rovers fans "idiots". Unbelievable.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin. . are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters? . just thinking.[/p][/quote]They reported it without criticising the fans at all. Supporters of the big clubs seemingly deserve success whilst fans of little old Blackburn should be grateful of what they've got. Talksport went a step further, claiming the Arsenal fans were right and Wenger has to go. The same radio station that called Rovers fans "idiots". Unbelievable. Billypieman

10:48am Tue 24 Jan 12

vic56 says...

Jan 23rd
Tick tock tick tock!
in January-
W D L goals F A
1 1 2 6 6
Transfers in- 1(loan) £0
Transfers out- 0 £0
Assistant managers- -1/+1
Tick tock tick tock!
Certainly hit the ground running this transfer window- 4 established players in already!
Still we can't be relegated!
Jan 23rd Tick tock tick tock! in January- W D L goals F A 1 1 2 6 6 Transfers in- 1(loan) £0 Transfers out- 0 £0 Assistant managers- -1/+1 Tick tock tick tock! Certainly hit the ground running this transfer window- 4 established players in already! Still we can't be relegated! vic56

10:57am Tue 24 Jan 12

oreilly21 says...

why on earth are we even thinking about letting one of our brightest prospects leave the club when we need him most???? he has improved no end over the last year and he could potentially develop in to a Luka Modric type player with time.
it defies logic allowing him to leave in january when h is a regular first team player that probably not on anywhere close to the wage of Roberts or Grella!!
why on earth are we even thinking about letting one of our brightest prospects leave the club when we need him most???? he has improved no end over the last year and he could potentially develop in to a Luka Modric type player with time. it defies logic allowing him to leave in january when h is a regular first team player that probably not on anywhere close to the wage of Roberts or Grella!! oreilly21

10:59am Tue 24 Jan 12

Tuo Neak says...

vic56 wrote:
Jan 23rd
Tick tock tick tock!
in January-
W D L goals F A
1 1 2 6 6
Transfers in- 1(loan) £0
Transfers out- 0 £0
Assistant managers- -1/+1
Tick tock tick tock!
Certainly hit the ground running this transfer window- 4 established players in already!
Still we can't be relegated!
Dont worry after the transfer window we will no doubt have until the end of the season to judge the owners and manager. We have a young team who are pushing on for a top half finish dont you know?
[quote][p][bold]vic56[/bold] wrote: Jan 23rd Tick tock tick tock! in January- W D L goals F A 1 1 2 6 6 Transfers in- 1(loan) £0 Transfers out- 0 £0 Assistant managers- -1/+1 Tick tock tick tock! Certainly hit the ground running this transfer window- 4 established players in already! Still we can't be relegated![/p][/quote]Dont worry after the transfer window we will no doubt have until the end of the season to judge the owners and manager. We have a young team who are pushing on for a top half finish dont you know? Tuo Neak

11:25am Tue 24 Jan 12

Dukes says...

Venkys out there are only here to make money from the club and players begin sold.
Venkys out there are only here to make money from the club and players begin sold. Dukes

11:40am Tue 24 Jan 12

ChrisSutton says...

fitz808 wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
Bunch of idiots or crooks. Can't decide which. Don't sell Formica, he's one of the few good, deserving members of our squad. If he continues to develop he could be in our midfield for years. Great technical ability and finally starting to adjust to the Prem. VENKYS = LIARS
the problem is that he seemingly want to leave. i dont think the club would be looking to sell if he didn't.
Chris Samba wants to leave, and they don't wanna sell him though?
[quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: Bunch of idiots or crooks. Can't decide which. Don't sell Formica, he's one of the few good, deserving members of our squad. If he continues to develop he could be in our midfield for years. Great technical ability and finally starting to adjust to the Prem. VENKYS = LIARS[/p][/quote]the problem is that he seemingly want to leave. i dont think the club would be looking to sell if he didn't.[/p][/quote]Chris Samba wants to leave, and they don't wanna sell him though? ChrisSutton

11:46am Tue 24 Jan 12

ChrisSutton says...

Billypieman wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin.
.
are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters?
.
just thinking.
They reported it without criticising the fans at all. Supporters of the big clubs seemingly deserve success whilst fans of little old Blackburn should be grateful of what they've got. Talksport went a step further, claiming the Arsenal fans were right and Wenger has to go. The same radio station that called Rovers fans "idiots". Unbelievable.
Yep. The bullsh!t of platitudes which was rolled out for all Rovers fans by idiotic top 4 fans and the national media should be now repeated for Arsenal:

"They're not real fans"

"How dare they 'abuse' their manager that way" (er, abuse? 'Kean out')

"They should support the team and the manager. Who knows what may happen if they get behind him?"

" fans are the worst in football"

"I've never in all my life seen such abuse of a manager"

"What do want exactly? Do they expect to win the league? Lolz!"

"I hope that succeeds now and shoves it in the faces of all the fans who have never supported him".

Have I missed any?

Oh, wait. None of this will apply to the Arsenal fans I guess? Silly me. I should have remembered, all the scousers got a free pass to. For their GENUINELY out of order Roy Hodgson abuse after THREE GAMES.

Yep. "You'll Never Walk Alone.."

... Unless you're Roy Hodgson.

But hey, us Rovers fans are the worst fans in football right. "Kean out". I mean, wow, who ever criticises a manager for 5 wins in 31 (or whatever the terrible record was at the time).
[quote][p][bold]Billypieman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin. . are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters? . just thinking.[/p][/quote]They reported it without criticising the fans at all. Supporters of the big clubs seemingly deserve success whilst fans of little old Blackburn should be grateful of what they've got. Talksport went a step further, claiming the Arsenal fans were right and Wenger has to go. The same radio station that called Rovers fans "idiots". Unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Yep. The bullsh!t of platitudes which was rolled out for all Rovers fans by idiotic top 4 fans and the national media should be now repeated for Arsenal: "They're not real fans" "How dare they 'abuse' their manager that way" (er, abuse? 'Kean out') "They should support the team and the manager. Who knows what may happen if they get behind him?" " fans are the worst in football" "I've never in all my life seen such abuse of a manager" "What do want exactly? Do they expect to win the league? Lolz!" "I hope that succeeds now and shoves it in the faces of all the fans who have never supported him". Have I missed any? Oh, wait. None of this will apply to the Arsenal fans I guess? Silly me. I should have remembered, all the scousers got a free pass to. For their GENUINELY out of order Roy Hodgson abuse after THREE GAMES. Yep. "You'll Never Walk Alone.." ... Unless you're Roy Hodgson. But hey, us Rovers fans are the worst fans in football right. "Kean out". I mean, wow, who ever criticises a manager for 5 wins in 31 (or whatever the terrible record was at the time). ChrisSutton

12:10pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Instead of getting rid of a player who is actually a regular "first-teamer" hows about getting rid of some of the players we dont play e.g Roberts, Grella, Andrews, Anderson, Bruno Ribero etc etc,

I give up trying to understand second guess the logic at times at BRFC.
spot on,looks like its quickest way to get some cash in to pay barclays back.
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: Instead of getting rid of a player who is actually a regular "first-teamer" hows about getting rid of some of the players we dont play e.g Roberts, Grella, Andrews, Anderson, Bruno Ribero etc etc, I give up trying to understand second guess the logic at times at BRFC.[/p][/quote]spot on,looks like its quickest way to get some cash in to pay barclays back. alfa111

12:23pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Whitehall Rover says...

This is rediculous, why are we selling our best players?
This is rediculous, why are we selling our best players? Whitehall Rover

12:48pm Tue 24 Jan 12

harwoodblue says...

Just seen on Tribalfootball that we are linked with a brazilian defensive midfielder call Richarlyson played over 150 games for Sao Paulo.

Then i looked the player up on Wiki, dont think i can explain what it says about the player on this forum without getting into trouble. But lets just say that if Rovers want to change peoples opinions of the club being a joke buying a big gay brazilian isnt the way to go.
Just seen on Tribalfootball that we are linked with a brazilian defensive midfielder call Richarlyson played over 150 games for Sao Paulo. Then i looked the player up on Wiki, dont think i can explain what it says about the player on this forum without getting into trouble. But lets just say that if Rovers want to change peoples opinions of the club being a joke buying a big gay brazilian isnt the way to go. harwoodblue

12:49pm Tue 24 Jan 12

eddie the eagle says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Strange, since when was Formica put on the transfer list and where is our beloved manager with his "he's not leaving" speech. . Seems barmy to me that we (supposedly) paid £3.5m for him (and no doubt some lovely juicy agent's fee) and now we are looking to get rid of him for £3.5m. . So, we bought a player with potential for £3.5m and slowly he has developed into a half decent player and regular in the team and now he is worth what we bought him for twelve months earlier.....summat don't add up....no doubt summat to do with player ownership/registrati on in a joorabchim style tevez/macherano type deal.
HH;I think I can hear the sound of a nail being hit firmly on the head.also your comment on the behaviour of the Arsenal fans,maybe Charlie will have something to say on saturday.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: Strange, since when was Formica put on the transfer list and where is our beloved manager with his "he's not leaving" speech. . Seems barmy to me that we (supposedly) paid £3.5m for him (and no doubt some lovely juicy agent's fee) and now we are looking to get rid of him for £3.5m. . So, we bought a player with potential for £3.5m and slowly he has developed into a half decent player and regular in the team and now he is worth what we bought him for twelve months earlier.....summat don't add up....no doubt summat to do with player ownership/registrati on in a joorabchim style tevez/macherano type deal.[/p][/quote]HH;I think I can hear the sound of a nail being hit firmly on the head.also your comment on the behaviour of the Arsenal fans,maybe Charlie will have something to say on saturday. eddie the eagle

12:53pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Strange, since when was Formica put on the transfer list and where is our beloved manager with his "he's not leaving" speech.
.
Seems barmy to me that we (supposedly) paid £3.5m for him (and no doubt some lovely juicy agent's fee) and now we are looking to get rid of him for £3.5m.
.
So, we bought a player with potential for £3.5m and slowly he has developed into a half decent player and regular in the team and now he is worth what we bought him for twelve months earlier.....summat don't add up....no doubt summat to do with player ownership/registrati

on in a joorabchim style tevez/macherano type deal.
FUBAR

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: Strange, since when was Formica put on the transfer list and where is our beloved manager with his "he's not leaving" speech. . Seems barmy to me that we (supposedly) paid £3.5m for him (and no doubt some lovely juicy agent's fee) and now we are looking to get rid of him for £3.5m. . So, we bought a player with potential for £3.5m and slowly he has developed into a half decent player and regular in the team and now he is worth what we bought him for twelve months earlier.....summat don't add up....no doubt summat to do with player ownership/registrati on in a joorabchim style tevez/macherano type deal.[/p][/quote]FUBAR Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

12:59pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

Quote S kean Fiercely defends venkys Promises sportal India news19/11/2011,anyth
ing i have asked far i have been given in the transfer market Venkys have always delivered, the re-signing of players and transfer money has always been delivered.
Quote S kean Fiercely defends venkys Promises sportal India news19/11/2011,anyth ing i have asked far i have been given in the transfer market Venkys have always delivered, the re-signing of players and transfer money has always been delivered. alfa111

1:01pm Tue 24 Jan 12

dangerous dave says...

Cant believe a word Kean or the Venkys have to say (if they say anything now)
Kean should get shut of the likes of Roberts - Anderson and co even if its just getting them off the Wage Bill then he can go out and get some more poor 'freebies' which is more his scene - the unkowns of the game!!!!!!!
Yes yet again his mouth has run riot with telling us about players he wpould be signing as he said 'hitting the ground' early January - what a Joke!!!
And out of interest Mr Kean has'nty said much in support of his mate Rednapp appearing in court for tax ivasion and back handers - I wonder why!!!
Cant believe a word Kean or the Venkys have to say (if they say anything now) Kean should get shut of the likes of Roberts - Anderson and co even if its just getting them off the Wage Bill then he can go out and get some more poor 'freebies' which is more his scene - the unkowns of the game!!!!!!! Yes yet again his mouth has run riot with telling us about players he wpould be signing as he said 'hitting the ground' early January - what a Joke!!! And out of interest Mr Kean has'nty said much in support of his mate Rednapp appearing in court for tax ivasion and back handers - I wonder why!!! dangerous dave

1:02pm Tue 24 Jan 12

thresholdweller says...

You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off.
I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do.
The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got.
You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off. I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do. The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got. thresholdweller

1:28pm Tue 24 Jan 12

dadsez says...

Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,
Venkys Out.Venkys Out.Venkys Out.
Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica,Don't Sell Formica, Venkys Out.Venkys Out.Venkys Out. dadsez

1:45pm Tue 24 Jan 12

MORTEN GAMST 84 says...

Gaz M wrote:
With venkys its a case of take ,take, take they have no intention of spending their money on Rovers we are just an advertising vehicle to them and unfortunately for them they are getting bad press all over the media with their inept running of an established premier league club. The sooner they cut their losses and sell the better for all concearned Venkys out!
Came across this quote today reminded me of the blackburn situation and venkys.'When you look long into an abyss,the abyss looks into you.'Formica has the potential to be a super rovers player,venkys out.
[quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: With venkys its a case of take ,take, take they have no intention of spending their money on Rovers we are just an advertising vehicle to them and unfortunately for them they are getting bad press all over the media with their inept running of an established premier league club. The sooner they cut their losses and sell the better for all concearned Venkys out![/p][/quote]Came across this quote today reminded me of the blackburn situation and venkys.'When you look long into an abyss,the abyss looks into you.'Formica has the potential to be a super rovers player,venkys out. MORTEN GAMST 84

1:51pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

thresholdweller wrote:
You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off.
I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do.
The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got.
Just remember the aim of the venky take over was not to expand and progress rovers FC as a PL club but to get venkys india ltd noticed world wide, with lots of publicty by using the name of a PL club in the name of BRFC
[quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off. I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do. The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got.[/p][/quote]Just remember the aim of the venky take over was not to expand and progress rovers FC as a PL club but to get venkys india ltd noticed world wide, with lots of publicty by using the name of a PL club in the name of BRFC alfa111

1:54pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

Rover Pete wrote:
If Formica is such a poor player then why is Kean not only putting him on the bench but amking him a regular substittute? There is as little logic in that than all the other odd things that go on at Ewood.
I note that Venky's fixer from Brazil has done nothing yet, except have a holiday. Or perhaps he is the one trying to raise money on Formica and is just here to get some more money out of the club for Venky's.
Hit the nail right on the head.
[quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: If Formica is such a poor player then why is Kean not only putting him on the bench but amking him a regular substittute? There is as little logic in that than all the other odd things that go on at Ewood. I note that Venky's fixer from Brazil has done nothing yet, except have a holiday. Or perhaps he is the one trying to raise money on Formica and is just here to get some more money out of the club for Venky's.[/p][/quote]Hit the nail right on the head. alfa111

1:55pm Tue 24 Jan 12

ChrisSutton says...

If Formica does go, and for whatever reason for £3.5m (the reported asking price), then I think the FA really need to look into this case.

If we're selling him for the same price as we bought him, less then a season after, then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out someone's making a few bob out of this.

And where is Kean's "not for sale" statement? He clearly rates Formica as he's our most featured player this season. All very very suspicious IMO.
If Formica does go, and for whatever reason for £3.5m (the reported asking price), then I think the FA really need to look into this case. If we're selling him for the same price as we bought him, less then a season after, then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out someone's making a few bob out of this. And where is Kean's "not for sale" statement? He clearly rates Formica as he's our most featured player this season. All very very suspicious IMO. ChrisSutton

2:07pm Tue 24 Jan 12

MxMave says...

Billypieman wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin.
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are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters?
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just thinking.
They reported it without criticising the fans at all. Supporters of the big clubs seemingly deserve success whilst fans of little old Blackburn should be grateful of what they've got. Talksport went a step further, claiming the Arsenal fans were right and Wenger has to go. The same radio station that called Rovers fans "idiots". Unbelievable.
I thourght exactly the same at the time watching Arsenal.

It beggars belief. It really does.

As for Formica being sold... Lost for words... him and Yak are the only decent signings Kean has brought in.
[quote][p][bold]Billypieman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: on another subject - i don't have sky sports news so can sombody tell me if anybody has appeared on SSN this week slagging off arsenal supporters for booing through their game on sunday, chanting that their manager "don't know what your doing" and booing one of their own players - arshavin. . are there "dark forces" at play at the emirates? - personally, i think it would be good if supporters actually got behind their team, or are they not true supporters? . just thinking.[/p][/quote]They reported it without criticising the fans at all. Supporters of the big clubs seemingly deserve success whilst fans of little old Blackburn should be grateful of what they've got. Talksport went a step further, claiming the Arsenal fans were right and Wenger has to go. The same radio station that called Rovers fans "idiots". Unbelievable.[/p][/quote]I thourght exactly the same at the time watching Arsenal. It beggars belief. It really does. As for Formica being sold... Lost for words... him and Yak are the only decent signings Kean has brought in. MxMave

2:11pm Tue 24 Jan 12

AnimalReid says...

Completely non-sensicle this. Cany beleive we are even contemplating offloading Formica. Why on earth are the LET reporting this in such a 'matter of fact' way.
...
Is the LET not surprised by this move? Does the LET not feel compelled to ask the same questions all the posters on here are asking? Cos if all this is true - WHY?
Completely non-sensicle this. Cany beleive we are even contemplating offloading Formica. Why on earth are the LET reporting this in such a 'matter of fact' way. ... Is the LET not surprised by this move? Does the LET not feel compelled to ask the same questions all the posters on here are asking? Cos if all this is true - WHY? AnimalReid

2:21pm Tue 24 Jan 12

saint.george says...

Rover Pete wrote:
If Formica is such a poor player then why is Kean not only putting him on the bench but amking him a regular substittute? There is as little logic in that than all the other odd things that go on at Ewood.
I note that Venky's fixer from Brazil has done nothing yet, except have a holiday. Or perhaps he is the one trying to raise money on Formica and is just here to get some more money out of the club for Venky's.
Not at all, he's lined up some Brasilian gay boy for us ... oops, dropped the soap ...
[quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: If Formica is such a poor player then why is Kean not only putting him on the bench but amking him a regular substittute? There is as little logic in that than all the other odd things that go on at Ewood. I note that Venky's fixer from Brazil has done nothing yet, except have a holiday. Or perhaps he is the one trying to raise money on Formica and is just here to get some more money out of the club for Venky's.[/p][/quote]Not at all, he's lined up some Brasilian gay boy for us ... oops, dropped the soap ... saint.george

2:58pm Tue 24 Jan 12

thresholdweller says...

alfa111 wrote:
thresholdweller wrote:
You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off.
I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do.
The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got.
Just remember the aim of the venky take over was not to expand and progress rovers FC as a PL club but to get venkys india ltd noticed world wide, with lots of publicty by using the name of a PL club in the name of BRFC
I think that they wanted good publicity. The recent Economic Times of India article can't be the sort of publicity they were after. If Rovers are relegated, they come across as incompetent - but I don't think they know what to do. I suspect that they made promises to Steve Kean that they haven't delivered, but if he quits, his career prospects are damaged. If he keeps Rovers up, he may yet have a career in football management. So he isn't going to go.
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off. I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do. The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got.[/p][/quote]Just remember the aim of the venky take over was not to expand and progress rovers FC as a PL club but to get venkys india ltd noticed world wide, with lots of publicty by using the name of a PL club in the name of BRFC[/p][/quote]I think that they wanted good publicity. The recent Economic Times of India article can't be the sort of publicity they were after. If Rovers are relegated, they come across as incompetent - but I don't think they know what to do. I suspect that they made promises to Steve Kean that they haven't delivered, but if he quits, his career prospects are damaged. If he keeps Rovers up, he may yet have a career in football management. So he isn't going to go. thresholdweller

3:00pm Tue 24 Jan 12

bburnrover says...

Both the players the agents bought last January are not up to the rigours of the Prem both get knocked off the ball too easily and are not strong enough to cope.The only prpblem i note is the fact if they got anywhere near what they want who is going to replace him in the last week of the window?
Both the players the agents bought last January are not up to the rigours of the Prem both get knocked off the ball too easily and are not strong enough to cope.The only prpblem i note is the fact if they got anywhere near what they want who is going to replace him in the last week of the window? bburnrover

3:22pm Tue 24 Jan 12

BeatleBill says...

This is madness, plain and simple. We supposedly bought Formica for "the future." He has been "groomed" for a year. He has been one of Rovers most consistent and regular players this season. He has adapted to the Premiership. And we are now planning to sell him FOR THE SAME AMOUNT we paid for him? Then what? Replace him with an untried and untested Brazilian who will take time to settle and adapt to British football. And all in a relegation season? And Kean is going along with this? So Formica wants to leave the club? So does Samba? And we are forcing him to honor his contract? Nothing makes sense at Ewood any more. The lunatics are clearly running the asylum.
This is madness, plain and simple. We supposedly bought Formica for "the future." He has been "groomed" for a year. He has been one of Rovers most consistent and regular players this season. He has adapted to the Premiership. And we are now planning to sell him FOR THE SAME AMOUNT we paid for him? Then what? Replace him with an untried and untested Brazilian who will take time to settle and adapt to British football. And all in a relegation season? And Kean is going along with this? So Formica wants to leave the club? So does Samba? And we are forcing him to honor his contract? Nothing makes sense at Ewood any more. The lunatics are clearly running the asylum. BeatleBill

3:24pm Tue 24 Jan 12

midas says...

Come on lads get your blue and white blinkers off! Formica is not on the transfer list - HE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR ROVERS - he wants out, he cannot abide blackburn and hates the place, he hates the weather and wishes hed never signed.
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£3.5m for a midfileld squad player in a bottom 3 team is about right.
Come on lads get your blue and white blinkers off! Formica is not on the transfer list - HE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR ROVERS - he wants out, he cannot abide blackburn and hates the place, he hates the weather and wishes hed never signed. . £3.5m for a midfileld squad player in a bottom 3 team is about right. midas

3:34pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

thresholdweller wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
thresholdweller wrote:
You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off.
I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do.
The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got.
Just remember the aim of the venky take over was not to expand and progress rovers FC as a PL club but to get venkys india ltd noticed world wide, with lots of publicty by using the name of a PL club in the name of BRFC
I think that they wanted good publicity. The recent Economic Times of India article can't be the sort of publicity they were after. If Rovers are relegated, they come across as incompetent - but I don't think they know what to do. I suspect that they made promises to Steve Kean that they haven't delivered, but if he quits, his career prospects are damaged. If he keeps Rovers up, he may yet have a career in football management. So he isn't going to go.
There probably hasnt been any publicity that has been good but venkys poor publicity could have been rectified earlier if they had left the Directors,Board, staff that were already working for BRFC before the take over, There failures at BRFC have been brought on by themselves.Funny though that venkys india ltd net profits have dramaticly improved since they took over BRFC.
SK has already stated himself by the way that venkys have delivered all there promises and everything he has asked from them they venkys have given it to him they have kept there promise to back him up in transfers and in re-signings he wanted to stay? from the India Press sportal india19/11/2011. Kean Fearcely defends Venkys ltd Yep keans going nowere he will lie till the cows come home for 1.5mill
[quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: You can only get rid of players by paying them off or transferring them to somebody who wants to pay them. So all the get rid of ........ awaits offers, because there doesn't appear to be the money to pay them off. I'm not sure that the Venkys are taking loads from the club, but neither are they providing investment. The Indian article points to folk who do not understand English football, who came up with a business model which has so far not worked and who now are doing nothing because they don't know what else to do. The best plan at present seems to be hoping that no offers come in for the team players and then carrying on in Feb with what we've got.[/p][/quote]Just remember the aim of the venky take over was not to expand and progress rovers FC as a PL club but to get venkys india ltd noticed world wide, with lots of publicty by using the name of a PL club in the name of BRFC[/p][/quote]I think that they wanted good publicity. The recent Economic Times of India article can't be the sort of publicity they were after. If Rovers are relegated, they come across as incompetent - but I don't think they know what to do. I suspect that they made promises to Steve Kean that they haven't delivered, but if he quits, his career prospects are damaged. If he keeps Rovers up, he may yet have a career in football management. So he isn't going to go.[/p][/quote]There probably hasnt been any publicity that has been good but venkys poor publicity could have been rectified earlier if they had left the Directors,Board, staff that were already working for BRFC before the take over, There failures at BRFC have been brought on by themselves.Funny though that venkys india ltd net profits have dramaticly improved since they took over BRFC. SK has already stated himself by the way that venkys have delivered all there promises and everything he has asked from them they venkys have given it to him they have kept there promise to back him up in transfers and in re-signings he wanted to stay? from the India Press sportal india19/11/2011. Kean Fearcely defends Venkys ltd Yep keans going nowere he will lie till the cows come home for 1.5mill alfa111

4:04pm Tue 24 Jan 12

CARover says...

Now did I read somewhere that we want to improve the squad? So we start a fire storm and begin to sell the better players and keep the under achievers, makes no sense?

Daily the owners, manager and advisors cement the ideal that they do not know what they are doing and have not a clue which way is up.. even if they so **** bubbles in a bath tub, they still would not know!!!
Now did I read somewhere that we want to improve the squad? So we start a fire storm and begin to sell the better players and keep the under achievers, makes no sense? Daily the owners, manager and advisors cement the ideal that they do not know what they are doing and have not a clue which way is up.. even if they so **** bubbles in a bath tub, they still would not know!!! CARover

4:07pm Tue 24 Jan 12

thresholdweller says...

At the end of the transfer window, Steve Kean will have some explaining to do. His answers will be interesting, particularly if he is pressed on the finances.
As for the team, they still seem to be playing for him and, though it is a slim chance, our best chance of staying up seems to be with him.
At the end of the transfer window, Steve Kean will have some explaining to do. His answers will be interesting, particularly if he is pressed on the finances. As for the team, they still seem to be playing for him and, though it is a slim chance, our best chance of staying up seems to be with him. thresholdweller

4:12pm Tue 24 Jan 12

garyintandem says...

Sell Formica, buy a strong, quick defensive right back with leadership qualities and have the following team.
Robbo
AN Other
Samba
Dann
Givet
Lowe
Nzonzi
Pedersen/Dunn
Olson
Hoilett
Yak.

That team will keep us up
COYB
Sell Formica, buy a strong, quick defensive right back with leadership qualities and have the following team. Robbo AN Other Samba Dann Givet Lowe Nzonzi Pedersen/Dunn Olson Hoilett Yak. That team will keep us up COYB garyintandem

4:31pm Tue 24 Jan 12

noddymcleod says...

On a lighter note, do they teach geography in Argentina ? Tevez says he misses his daughter back home and then wants to move from Manchester to Milan or Paris, and now Formica wants to rejoin his daughter and is thinking of following Mattie D from Blackburn to Greece.
Yet another sign that despite reassurances, Rovers are a selling club.
Venkys are selling up to get some readies.
No Arab or Russian is going to buy Rovers, and apart from the nostalgia of owning a founding member of the FL, Reading is a better economic bet than Blackburn. Bigger town, nearer London for the daytripper journos and media hacks, higher individual spending power in tht town.
Dream on.
Let´s get serious about discussing the community and fans owned club for when Rovers go bust.
On a lighter note, do they teach geography in Argentina ? Tevez says he misses his daughter back home and then wants to move from Manchester to Milan or Paris, and now Formica wants to rejoin his daughter and is thinking of following Mattie D from Blackburn to Greece. Yet another sign that despite reassurances, Rovers are a selling club. Venkys are selling up to get some readies. No Arab or Russian is going to buy Rovers, and apart from the nostalgia of owning a founding member of the FL, Reading is a better economic bet than Blackburn. Bigger town, nearer London for the daytripper journos and media hacks, higher individual spending power in tht town. Dream on. Let´s get serious about discussing the community and fans owned club for when Rovers go bust. noddymcleod

4:31pm Tue 24 Jan 12

noddymcleod says...

On a lighter note, do they teach geography in Argentina ? Tevez says he misses his daughter back home and then wants to move from Manchester to Milan or Paris, and now Formica wants to rejoin his daughter and is thinking of following Mattie D from Blackburn to Greece.
Yet another sign that despite reassurances, Rovers are a selling club.
Venkys are selling up to get some readies.
No Arab or Russian is going to buy Rovers, and apart from the nostalgia of owning a founding member of the FL, Reading is a better economic bet than Blackburn. Bigger town, nearer London for the daytripper journos and media hacks, higher individual spending power in tht town.
Dream on.
Let´s get serious about discussing the community and fans owned club for when Rovers go bust.
On a lighter note, do they teach geography in Argentina ? Tevez says he misses his daughter back home and then wants to move from Manchester to Milan or Paris, and now Formica wants to rejoin his daughter and is thinking of following Mattie D from Blackburn to Greece. Yet another sign that despite reassurances, Rovers are a selling club. Venkys are selling up to get some readies. No Arab or Russian is going to buy Rovers, and apart from the nostalgia of owning a founding member of the FL, Reading is a better economic bet than Blackburn. Bigger town, nearer London for the daytripper journos and media hacks, higher individual spending power in tht town. Dream on. Let´s get serious about discussing the community and fans owned club for when Rovers go bust. noddymcleod

4:34pm Tue 24 Jan 12

awh says...

If you haven't done so yet, sign the petition!

http://www.ipetition
s.com/petition/venky
s-out/
If you haven't done so yet, sign the petition! http://www.ipetition s.com/petition/venky s-out/ awh

4:37pm Tue 24 Jan 12

awh says...

If you haven't done so yet, sign the petition!

http://www.ipetition
s.com/petition/venky
s-out/
If you haven't done so yet, sign the petition! http://www.ipetition s.com/petition/venky s-out/ awh

5:08pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers.
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But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November?
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Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that?
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Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him?
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33rd........
Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers. . But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November? . Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that? . Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him? . 33rd........ Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

5:17pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Looking forward to Ewood tonight and lets beat Palace and book a place at Wembley? What do you mean we decided not to bother trying?
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Oh well its worth remembering that Keans record in the last 13 games is still only a win % of 23% and knocked out of two cups. In the last 5 games its still less than John Colemans in 12 years at Accy Stanley and he had to sell sell sell!
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33rd.........
Looking forward to Ewood tonight and lets beat Palace and book a place at Wembley? What do you mean we decided not to bother trying? . Oh well its worth remembering that Keans record in the last 13 games is still only a win % of 23% and knocked out of two cups. In the last 5 games its still less than John Colemans in 12 years at Accy Stanley and he had to sell sell sell! . 33rd......... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

6:02pm Tue 24 Jan 12

RTID_norway says...

http://www.ipetition
s.com/petition/venky
s-out/
http://www.ipetition s.com/petition/venky s-out/ RTID_norway

6:13pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparancy, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can fans believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot.
Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparancy, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can fans believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot. alfa111

6:13pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparancy, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can fans believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot.
Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparancy, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can fans believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot. alfa111

6:24pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparency, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can Sky sports news and press believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot gready b*****ds
Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparency, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can Sky sports news and press believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot gready b*****ds alfa111

6:26pm Tue 24 Jan 12

alfa111 says...

Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparency, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can Sky sports news and press believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot gready b*****ds
Well well MR Harry redknapp one of SK LMA mates who was full of keans Honesty and Integrity Transparency, has finally had the cloak taken from his own shoulders to re-leave him of his honesty ,Integrity,How can Sky sports news and press believe these people as i have said before they all P**s in the same pot gready b*****ds alfa111

7:11pm Tue 24 Jan 12

whittaker0 says...

I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions.
I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions. whittaker0

7:11pm Tue 24 Jan 12

whittaker0 says...

I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions.
I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions. whittaker0

7:12pm Tue 24 Jan 12

whittaker0 says...

I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions.
I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions. whittaker0

7:13pm Tue 24 Jan 12

whittaker0 says...

I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions.
I am amazed and angry that Formica is for sale. Why? Are the Venkys deliberately antagonising the fans? Yet another poor decision? When will they start to speak to people who firstly, know what they are talking about and secondly who are honest. So far they have failed on both counts. I would immediately put the not for sale sign up on Formica. As for the Venkys they have probably managed to attract the worst publicity that any owner of a sporting club has ever attracted and they should feel pretty ashamed. It is still not too late though and keep Formica for goodness sake. Finally, Formica is a quality player and a deft finisher and is potentially worth a great deal more than a rather paltry 3.5 million pounds. In football it is important to see the wider picture and look beyond quick solutions. whittaker0

7:27pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Billypieman says...

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers.
.
But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November?
.
Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that?
.
Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him?
.
33rd........
Well worth £2.99 to watch what it was like to keep a clean sheet.
[quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers. . But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November? . Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that? . Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him? . 33rd........[/p][/quote]Well worth £2.99 to watch what it was like to keep a clean sheet. Billypieman

7:48pm Tue 24 Jan 12

GameRoverMan says...

Given that he has been at Rovers a few months only, Rovers should refuse to pay any agent's fee. The original fee must have been exhorbitant and at the very least they should attempt to recoup the transfer fee and any agent's fee.
Given that he has been at Rovers a few months only, Rovers should refuse to pay any agent's fee. The original fee must have been exhorbitant and at the very least they should attempt to recoup the transfer fee and any agent's fee. GameRoverMan

8:08pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Shearer says...

Remember another one that got away? Carlos Villanueva? Great ability, not exploited! Now, we're gonna sell our BEST player arguably!

Someone should google Venky's lavish parties that they throw every 3 months in Pune. I'm sure that the money spent on one of these parties will be enough to finance one year of Formica's wages!!
Remember another one that got away? Carlos Villanueva? Great ability, not exploited! Now, we're gonna sell our BEST player arguably! Someone should google Venky's lavish parties that they throw every 3 months in Pune. I'm sure that the money spent on one of these parties will be enough to finance one year of Formica's wages!! Shearer

8:21pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Shearer says...

http://www.indiainfo
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http://www.indiainfo line.com/Markets/Com pany/Fundamentals/Di rectors-Report/Venky s-India-Ltd/523261 Shearer

8:46pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Famous quotes-

I have the backing of the players,

I have not had a drink officer,

I have spoken to the owners and we will hit the ground running in this transfer window (25th Jan today= 1 loan player)

Samba is injured and unavailable (transfer request day after)

There will be a £5 million transfer kitty in the transfer windows.

Hoilett will sign in the next few days (three months ago)

Robinio will hopefully sign

Raul will hopefully sign

Talking to Beckham

There is a hidden agenda, followed by the letter from our previous board members, which proved all along the Fans where right to protest.

Liars out

Liars out

Liars out
Famous quotes- I have the backing of the players, I have not had a drink officer, I have spoken to the owners and we will hit the ground running in this transfer window (25th Jan today= 1 loan player) Samba is injured and unavailable (transfer request day after) There will be a £5 million transfer kitty in the transfer windows. Hoilett will sign in the next few days (three months ago) Robinio will hopefully sign Raul will hopefully sign Talking to Beckham There is a hidden agenda, followed by the letter from our previous board members, which proved all along the Fans where right to protest. Liars out Liars out Liars out Lancs - pensioner

8:47pm Tue 24 Jan 12

johnboy450 says...

venkys ventures in promoting blackburn rovers in india as become a big let down heard today whilst watching reserves on lfc tv,liverpool have already started to look into investing in india and venkys home town club fc pune looking intrested,especialy as there club badge looks like a liverpool badge and play in red kit at home which looks like the old 80s kit lfc used to play in, and when you watch fc pune games no rovers tops around so more lies from venkys
venkys ventures in promoting blackburn rovers in india as become a big let down heard today whilst watching reserves on lfc tv,liverpool have already started to look into investing in india and venkys home town club fc pune looking intrested,especialy as there club badge looks like a liverpool badge and play in red kit at home which looks like the old 80s kit lfc used to play in, and when you watch fc pune games no rovers tops around so more lies from venkys johnboy450

8:51pm Tue 24 Jan 12

whittaker0 says...

If this transfer goes through the Venkys are unfit to be a custodian of this football club and should depart the club as asap. The article in the Indian edition of the Financial Times is awful. They must change their ways or the repercussions on their other Indian businesses are potentially catastrophic.
If this transfer goes through the Venkys are unfit to be a custodian of this football club and should depart the club as asap. The article in the Indian edition of the Financial Times is awful. They must change their ways or the repercussions on their other Indian businesses are potentially catastrophic. whittaker0

9:05pm Tue 24 Jan 12

whittaker0 says...

If this transfer goes through the Venkys are unfit to be a custodian of this football club and should depart the club as asap. The article in the Indian edition of the Financial Times is awful. They must change their ways or the repercussions on their other Indian businesses are potentially catastrophic.
If this transfer goes through the Venkys are unfit to be a custodian of this football club and should depart the club as asap. The article in the Indian edition of the Financial Times is awful. They must change their ways or the repercussions on their other Indian businesses are potentially catastrophic. whittaker0

9:07pm Tue 24 Jan 12

roverfor60years says...

In that infamous, shameful, snivelling SSN 'interview' Anderson said: "Both players (Formica and Rochina) have been a big success at the club and from an asset point of view unquestionably both players are worth considerably more than the club paid for them."
Really? For legal purposes I won't call it a lie, I'll just say he was misconceived.
The club are desperately trying, but unlikely, to get back the £3.5 million they paid for him
- to say nothing of the agent's fee.
Well, Mr Anderson, perhaps you can get ‘considerably more’ for Formica – and repay the fat fee that Venkys thought ‘was normal’.
Having said that, Formica has adjusted to the Premier League and is now an asset to the squad. He covers an incredible amount of ground, doubles up in defence, links play – and scores goals.
I, too, am astonished he is for sale and the club are devaluing him by haggling at £2.5million. He should not be for sale – full stop. But certainly nowhere near that price.
In that infamous, shameful, snivelling SSN 'interview' Anderson said: "Both players (Formica and Rochina) have been a big success at the club and from an asset point of view unquestionably both players are worth considerably more than the club paid for them." Really? For legal purposes I won't call it a lie, I'll just say he was misconceived. The club are desperately trying, but unlikely, to get back the £3.5 million they paid for him - to say nothing of the agent's fee. Well, Mr Anderson, perhaps you can get ‘considerably more’ for Formica – and repay the fat fee that Venkys thought ‘was normal’. Having said that, Formica has adjusted to the Premier League and is now an asset to the squad. He covers an incredible amount of ground, doubles up in defence, links play – and scores goals. I, too, am astonished he is for sale and the club are devaluing him by haggling at £2.5million. He should not be for sale – full stop. But certainly nowhere near that price. roverfor60years

9:09pm Tue 24 Jan 12

roverfor60years says...

In that infamous, shameful, snivelling SSN 'interview' Anderson said: "Both players (Formica and Rochina) have been a big success at the club and from an asset point of view unquestionably both players are worth considerably more than the club paid for them."
Really? For legal purposes I won't call it a lie, I'll just say he was misconceived.
The club are desperately trying, but unlikely, to get back the £3.5 million they paid for him
- to say nothing of the agent's fee.
Well, Mr Anderson, perhaps you can get ‘considerably more’ for Formica – and repay the fat fee that Venkys thought ‘was normal’.
Having said that, Formica has adjusted to the Premier League and is now an asset to the squad. He covers an incredible amount of ground, doubles up in defence, links play – and scores goals.
I, too, am astonished he is for sale and the club are devaluing him by haggling at £2.5million. He should not be for sale – full stop. But certainly nowhere near that price.
In that infamous, shameful, snivelling SSN 'interview' Anderson said: "Both players (Formica and Rochina) have been a big success at the club and from an asset point of view unquestionably both players are worth considerably more than the club paid for them." Really? For legal purposes I won't call it a lie, I'll just say he was misconceived. The club are desperately trying, but unlikely, to get back the £3.5 million they paid for him - to say nothing of the agent's fee. Well, Mr Anderson, perhaps you can get ‘considerably more’ for Formica – and repay the fat fee that Venkys thought ‘was normal’. Having said that, Formica has adjusted to the Premier League and is now an asset to the squad. He covers an incredible amount of ground, doubles up in defence, links play – and scores goals. I, too, am astonished he is for sale and the club are devaluing him by haggling at £2.5million. He should not be for sale – full stop. But certainly nowhere near that price. roverfor60years

10:52pm Tue 24 Jan 12

grabbi5 says...

Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands??
Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands?? grabbi5

10:52pm Tue 24 Jan 12

bring back the good old days says...

BeatleBill wrote:
This is madness, plain and simple. We supposedly bought Formica for "the future." He has been "groomed" for a year. He has been one of Rovers most consistent and regular players this season. He has adapted to the Premiership. And we are now planning to sell him FOR THE SAME AMOUNT we paid for him? Then what? Replace him with an untried and untested Brazilian who will take time to settle and adapt to British football. And all in a relegation season? And Kean is going along with this? So Formica wants to leave the club? So does Samba? And we are forcing him to honor his contract? Nothing makes sense at Ewood any more. The lunatics are clearly running the asylum.
Pretty straight forward really.
Venkys never in it to spend money.
Taken advice on how to run a club on the cheap.
Got global exposure for their (core) brand on the cheap.
Players, like bank notes are pretty much worthless (to owners and agents) until they move.
Formica is wanted, so him moving makes money (especially for the agent).
On the blocks: Samba.
Grella, Roberts, Rabeiro, Anderson etc. are not. So no money to be made there.
To dispatch would mean paying off, but that means spending money, so its a no-no.
[quote][p][bold]BeatleBill[/bold] wrote: This is madness, plain and simple. We supposedly bought Formica for "the future." He has been "groomed" for a year. He has been one of Rovers most consistent and regular players this season. He has adapted to the Premiership. And we are now planning to sell him FOR THE SAME AMOUNT we paid for him? Then what? Replace him with an untried and untested Brazilian who will take time to settle and adapt to British football. And all in a relegation season? And Kean is going along with this? So Formica wants to leave the club? So does Samba? And we are forcing him to honor his contract? Nothing makes sense at Ewood any more. The lunatics are clearly running the asylum.[/p][/quote]Pretty straight forward really. Venkys never in it to spend money. Taken advice on how to run a club on the cheap. Got global exposure for their (core) brand on the cheap. Players, like bank notes are pretty much worthless (to owners and agents) until they move. Formica is wanted, so him moving makes money (especially for the agent). On the blocks: Samba. Grella, Roberts, Rabeiro, Anderson etc. are not. So no money to be made there. To dispatch would mean paying off, but that means spending money, so its a no-no. bring back the good old days

10:58pm Tue 24 Jan 12

riversidefan says...

Billypieman wrote:
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers.
.
But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November?
.
Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that?
.
Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him?
.
33rd........
Well worth £2.99 to watch what it was like to keep a clean sheet.
Morst you'll be done under the trade description act if you fail to mention all the SK hoofball we played after November, no more so than Wolves away on the last game of the season.
[quote][p][bold]Billypieman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers. . But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November? . Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that? . Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him? . 33rd........[/p][/quote]Well worth £2.99 to watch what it was like to keep a clean sheet.[/p][/quote]Morst you'll be done under the trade description act if you fail to mention all the SK hoofball we played after November, no more so than Wolves away on the last game of the season. riversidefan

11:08pm Tue 24 Jan 12

ChrisSutton says...

grabbi5 wrote:
Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands??
What's wrong with letting Formica go?

a) He has very good technical ability (see his goal against Fulham) and has recently started to show some real promise as a PL regular. He's already our most used player this season.

b) He will only get better and is "one for the future" as Kean likes to say. He could potentially be in our midfield for years to come.

and c) why would our sodding asking price be £3.5m? So after paying all of the agents fees to get him we're going to let him go for the SAME price? That's just plain idiotic.

If we're going to sell him at essentially a LOSS after only playing 20ish games for the club. What's the bleeding point of buying him in the first place?

Overall though I just like the lad, and think on a pure football level it's a mistake to let him go when our Premier League lives are at stake. Who we going to replace him with for £3.5m who's any better?
[quote][p][bold]grabbi5[/bold] wrote: Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands??[/p][/quote]What's wrong with letting Formica go? a) He has very good technical ability (see his goal against Fulham) and has recently started to show some real promise as a PL regular. He's already our most used player this season. b) He will only get better and is "one for the future" as Kean likes to say. He could potentially be in our midfield for years to come. and c) why would our sodding asking price be £3.5m? So after paying all of the agents fees to get him we're going to let him go for the SAME price? That's just plain idiotic. If we're going to sell him at essentially a LOSS after only playing 20ish games for the club. What's the bleeding point of buying him in the first place? Overall though I just like the lad, and think on a pure football level it's a mistake to let him go when our Premier League lives are at stake. Who we going to replace him with for £3.5m who's any better? ChrisSutton

11:34pm Tue 24 Jan 12

grabbi5 says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
grabbi5 wrote: Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands??
What's wrong with letting Formica go? a) He has very good technical ability (see his goal against Fulham) and has recently started to show some real promise as a PL regular. He's already our most used player this season. b) He will only get better and is "one for the future" as Kean likes to say. He could potentially be in our midfield for years to come. and c) why would our sodding asking price be £3.5m? So after paying all of the agents fees to get him we're going to let him go for the SAME price? That's just plain idiotic. If we're going to sell him at essentially a LOSS after only playing 20ish games for the club. What's the bleeding point of buying him in the first place? Overall though I just like the lad, and think on a pure football level it's a mistake to let him go when our Premier League lives are at stake. Who we going to replace him with for £3.5m who's any better?
Im not saying we have to sell him but if we need to raise funds to stregthen in other areas it may be our only option as there are not many of our players that are wanted by other teams
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grabbi5[/bold] wrote: Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands??[/p][/quote]What's wrong with letting Formica go? a) He has very good technical ability (see his goal against Fulham) and has recently started to show some real promise as a PL regular. He's already our most used player this season. b) He will only get better and is "one for the future" as Kean likes to say. He could potentially be in our midfield for years to come. and c) why would our sodding asking price be £3.5m? So after paying all of the agents fees to get him we're going to let him go for the SAME price? That's just plain idiotic. If we're going to sell him at essentially a LOSS after only playing 20ish games for the club. What's the bleeding point of buying him in the first place? Overall though I just like the lad, and think on a pure football level it's a mistake to let him go when our Premier League lives are at stake. Who we going to replace him with for £3.5m who's any better?[/p][/quote]Im not saying we have to sell him but if we need to raise funds to stregthen in other areas it may be our only option as there are not many of our players that are wanted by other teams grabbi5

11:35pm Tue 24 Jan 12

grabbi5 says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
grabbi5 wrote: Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands??
What's wrong with letting Formica go? a) He has very good technical ability (see his goal against Fulham) and has recently started to show some real promise as a PL regular. He's already our most used player this season. b) He will only get better and is "one for the future" as Kean likes to say. He could potentially be in our midfield for years to come. and c) why would our sodding asking price be £3.5m? So after paying all of the agents fees to get him we're going to let him go for the SAME price? That's just plain idiotic. If we're going to sell him at essentially a LOSS after only playing 20ish games for the club. What's the bleeding point of buying him in the first place? Overall though I just like the lad, and think on a pure football level it's a mistake to let him go when our Premier League lives are at stake. Who we going to replace him with for £3.5m who's any better?
Im not saying we have to sell him but if we need to raise funds to stregthen in other areas it may be our only option as there are not many of our players that are wanted by other teams
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grabbi5[/bold] wrote: Whats wrong with letting Formica go? We need to strengthen in other areas and raise cash to do so. So who do we sell? Samba? no Hoillet? no Formica? why not? Not many of our players are wanted by other clubs. As for people going on about getting rid of Grella, Roberts and that, who would take them off our hands??[/p][/quote]What's wrong with letting Formica go? a) He has very good technical ability (see his goal against Fulham) and has recently started to show some real promise as a PL regular. He's already our most used player this season. b) He will only get better and is "one for the future" as Kean likes to say. He could potentially be in our midfield for years to come. and c) why would our sodding asking price be £3.5m? So after paying all of the agents fees to get him we're going to let him go for the SAME price? That's just plain idiotic. If we're going to sell him at essentially a LOSS after only playing 20ish games for the club. What's the bleeding point of buying him in the first place? Overall though I just like the lad, and think on a pure football level it's a mistake to let him go when our Premier League lives are at stake. Who we going to replace him with for £3.5m who's any better?[/p][/quote]Im not saying we have to sell him but if we need to raise funds to stregthen in other areas it may be our only option as there are not many of our players that are wanted by other teams grabbi5

7:34am Wed 25 Jan 12

noddymcleod says...

There is a basic mistake in how some of the well-meaning but naive fellow fans on here look at what is going on at Rovers. Seen from a footie perspective none of their dealings make sense, but Venkys and Anderson are not interested in Rovers as a football club, they are interested in Rovers as a business opportunity. For Anderson it's win-win, the more transfers, deals the more fees he gets. Rovers are a gold mine for the spivs.
Formica is not a player to them, he is a commodity who will be bought and sold without any thought about how that affects Rovers as a team.
Venkys blundered into an ill advised venture, as someone notes above, IF footie is to take off in India, a shrewd business person there would buy into United, Liverpool, Spurs etc.
It's clear Venkys have learnt the lesson and are pulling out, presumably asset-stripping was always a backstop to get the cash back and that's what they are doing. It could still all go belly up with acute cash flow crises which lead to bankruptcy.
As to Harry, he may be affable and a good manager, but he's still ugly face of this quick fix, easy money attitude which is ruining football in this country.
There is a basic mistake in how some of the well-meaning but naive fellow fans on here look at what is going on at Rovers. Seen from a footie perspective none of their dealings make sense, but Venkys and Anderson are not interested in Rovers as a football club, they are interested in Rovers as a business opportunity. For Anderson it's win-win, the more transfers, deals the more fees he gets. Rovers are a gold mine for the spivs. Formica is not a player to them, he is a commodity who will be bought and sold without any thought about how that affects Rovers as a team. Venkys blundered into an ill advised venture, as someone notes above, IF footie is to take off in India, a shrewd business person there would buy into United, Liverpool, Spurs etc. It's clear Venkys have learnt the lesson and are pulling out, presumably asset-stripping was always a backstop to get the cash back and that's what they are doing. It could still all go belly up with acute cash flow crises which lead to bankruptcy. As to Harry, he may be affable and a good manager, but he's still ugly face of this quick fix, easy money attitude which is ruining football in this country. noddymcleod

8:52am Wed 25 Jan 12

Supernova531 says...

How sad is this? Kean hailed him on signing as our top man, the new Batistuta! Sadly he proved to be a good player who needed time to develop both within our league and as a footballer. Having gone through this process with him he is now beginning to show signs of being a very good player.
So what do we do next? We sell him for what we paid for him!
Make no mistake under our sad and pathetic under resourced owners every single player is for sale. The only reason that Samba is still here is that he **** of Mrs The great I am by daring to put in a transfer request, just like we as fans have **** her off by questioning her choice of Steve Kean as Manager, after all she does know much more about the game than any of us!!
How sad is this? Kean hailed him on signing as our top man, the new Batistuta! Sadly he proved to be a good player who needed time to develop both within our league and as a footballer. Having gone through this process with him he is now beginning to show signs of being a very good player. So what do we do next? We sell him for what we paid for him! Make no mistake under our sad and pathetic under resourced owners every single player is for sale. The only reason that Samba is still here is that he **** of Mrs The great I am by daring to put in a transfer request, just like we as fans have **** her off by questioning her choice of Steve Kean as Manager, after all she does know much more about the game than any of us!! Supernova531

9:13am Wed 25 Jan 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Billypieman wrote:
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers.
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But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November?
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Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that?
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Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him?
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33rd........
Well worth £2.99 to watch what it was like to keep a clean sheet.
Hope you and the 20 other Luddites enjoyed it!
[quote][p][bold]Billypieman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: Sometimes its the little things that are giveaways but BRFC emailing me about match day corporate rates for games has gone in a very short time from £70+ vat down down and now £49 including vat. This would suggest no one is taking up the offers. . But BAZZER must be amazed to see last seasons DVD is now only £2.99 - surely fans would pay more than this to watch BS hoofball to November? . Now we are willing to sell Formica because we need the cash and so a loan is not an option unless they gaurantee to take him if we are relegated? - what sort of clause or business plan is that? . Venkys - the last two times we were in trouble in Jan we invested in Andy Cole and Diouf and survived. There's a clue there - unless of course it seems you have the same confidence in the manager as we have = 0%? So change him? . 33rd........[/p][/quote]Well worth £2.99 to watch what it was like to keep a clean sheet.[/p][/quote]Hope you and the 20 other Luddites enjoyed it! Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

9:15am Wed 25 Jan 12

Shear_Brilliance says...

Formica is the player we should be fighting to keep hold of not Samba though he hasn't been exactly vital so far, Formica shows early signs of excellent abillity Samba wants to go and it's not good to keep hold of players that want to go any of our players with ambitions outside our club will be demoralised from this.
Formica is the player we should be fighting to keep hold of not Samba though he hasn't been exactly vital so far, Formica shows early signs of excellent abillity Samba wants to go and it's not good to keep hold of players that want to go any of our players with ambitions outside our club will be demoralised from this. Shear_Brilliance

9:16am Wed 25 Jan 12

Shear_Brilliance says...

Formica is the player we should be fighting to keep hold of not Samba though he hasn't been exactly vital so far, Formica shows early signs of excellent abillity Samba wants to go and it's not good to keep hold of players that want to go any of our players with ambitions outside our club will be demoralised from this.
Formica is the player we should be fighting to keep hold of not Samba though he hasn't been exactly vital so far, Formica shows early signs of excellent abillity Samba wants to go and it's not good to keep hold of players that want to go any of our players with ambitions outside our club will be demoralised from this. Shear_Brilliance

9:17am Wed 25 Jan 12

Shear_Brilliance says...

Formica is the player we should be fighting to keep hold of not Samba though he hasn't been exactly vital so far, Formica shows early signs of excellent abillity Samba wants to go and it's not good to keep hold of players that want to go any of our players with ambitions outside our club will be demoralised from this.
Formica is the player we should be fighting to keep hold of not Samba though he hasn't been exactly vital so far, Formica shows early signs of excellent abillity Samba wants to go and it's not good to keep hold of players that want to go any of our players with ambitions outside our club will be demoralised from this. Shear_Brilliance

9:56am Wed 25 Jan 12

Roverthere says...

Snatch their hands off, he's dead wood. Not good enough to keep on the payroll.
Snatch their hands off, he's dead wood. Not good enough to keep on the payroll. Roverthere

10:42am Wed 25 Jan 12

Ianwhittam says...

You hear fans whingeing on about getting behind the team, and kean seems to be improving. Well lets face it he only has one way to go and he has not got the management skills to improve noticeably.
How can any true fans look at what has not happened in this transfer window linked in with kean looking to accept bids for formica without feeling a raging anger that these muppets are killing the club. If the economic times of india are correct, venkys do not use a board of directors, just a general manager who liases directly with insanity head office in india. That being the case kean must be in favour of letting formica go if the right price comes along, we are possibly only keeping samba because outside bids were 'too low'. Where are the much needed players that kean said we were going to get in order to assure premiership survival, he said he was going to play his cards close to his chest.. all he has managed to achieve is developing a resemblance to mr bun the baker. God help the Rovers, because kean and the venkys won't
You hear fans whingeing on about getting behind the team, and kean seems to be improving. Well lets face it he only has one way to go and he has not got the management skills to improve noticeably. How can any true fans look at what has not happened in this transfer window linked in with kean looking to accept bids for formica without feeling a raging anger that these muppets are killing the club. If the economic times of india are correct, venkys do not use a board of directors, just a general manager who liases directly with insanity head office in india. That being the case kean must be in favour of letting formica go if the right price comes along, we are possibly only keeping samba because outside bids were 'too low'. Where are the much needed players that kean said we were going to get in order to assure premiership survival, he said he was going to play his cards close to his chest.. all he has managed to achieve is developing a resemblance to mr bun the baker. God help the Rovers, because kean and the venkys won't Ianwhittam

12:09pm Wed 25 Jan 12

Daniel Louis Grabko says...

This farce has gone on long enough -

We need to concentrate not only on putting pressure on Venkys to get out, but also providing them with an option - and that is where the Blackburn Football Charitable Investment Fund comes in!

Momentum is growing fast for this initiative - read the latest developments!!!!

http://daniellouisgr
abko.wordpress.com
This farce has gone on long enough - We need to concentrate not only on putting pressure on Venkys to get out, but also providing them with an option - and that is where the Blackburn Football Charitable Investment Fund comes in! Momentum is growing fast for this initiative - read the latest developments!!!! http://daniellouisgr abko.wordpress.com Daniel Louis Grabko

5:34pm Wed 25 Jan 12

lancs1985 says...

NUFC Protest - Update - BRFC Action Group
brfcactiongroup.org.
uk
BRFC Action Group - Aiming to preserve the legacy of Jack Walker for Blackburn Rovers as the current owners aren't!

Protest march against venky's, indian media are to be there aswell so lets make the venky's suffer and hurt them like they have to are club the scum bags, need everyone on board the more the better,
7pm brown cow, also join the website aswell, for all info on protest so long as you are genuinely against venkys and kean
NUFC Protest - Update - BRFC Action Group brfcactiongroup.org. uk BRFC Action Group - Aiming to preserve the legacy of Jack Walker for Blackburn Rovers as the current owners aren't! Protest march against venky's, indian media are to be there aswell so lets make the venky's suffer and hurt them like they have to are club the scum bags, need everyone on board the more the better, 7pm brown cow, also join the website aswell, for all info on protest so long as you are genuinely against venkys and kean lancs1985

9:36pm Wed 25 Jan 12

kiwipom73 says...

They let Emerton go for "free" (that must have been a desperate move to save a few bob !)....WHY have the "owners" not let Roberts and Grella go free !!
Of course there is no money....and we are not (of course) going to see all those experienced "bodies" ("player,s" to you average Manager/Coach) Kean as spoken about, arriving early January.
Now selling Formica !! (the brightest light of all the players brought into the club during the Venky saga).
Plus they continue not to speak out about their future involvement with the club....amazing, the saga becomes more silly by the week..a comic opera indeed !!!
They let Emerton go for "free" (that must have been a desperate move to save a few bob !)....WHY have the "owners" not let Roberts and Grella go free !! Of course there is no money....and we are not (of course) going to see all those experienced "bodies" ("player,s" to you average Manager/Coach) Kean as spoken about, arriving early January. Now selling Formica !! (the brightest light of all the players brought into the club during the Venky saga). Plus they continue not to speak out about their future involvement with the club....amazing, the saga becomes more silly by the week..a comic opera indeed !!! kiwipom73

8:46am Thu 26 Jan 12

bring back the good old days says...

noddymcleod wrote:
There is a basic mistake in how some of the well-meaning but naive fellow fans on here look at what is going on at Rovers. Seen from a footie perspective none of their dealings make sense, but Venkys and Anderson are not interested in Rovers as a football club, they are interested in Rovers as a business opportunity. For Anderson it's win-win, the more transfers, deals the more fees he gets. Rovers are a gold mine for the spivs.
Formica is not a player to them, he is a commodity who will be bought and sold without any thought about how that affects Rovers as a team.
Venkys blundered into an ill advised venture, as someone notes above, IF footie is to take off in India, a shrewd business person there would buy into United, Liverpool, Spurs etc.
It's clear Venkys have learnt the lesson and are pulling out, presumably asset-stripping was always a backstop to get the cash back and that's what they are doing. It could still all go belly up with acute cash flow crises which lead to bankruptcy.
As to Harry, he may be affable and a good manager, but he's still ugly face of this quick fix, easy money attitude which is ruining football in this country.
As usual Noddy we both see it for what it is.
You have to detatch yourself from the 'supporter mentality' and look at it as a business. Likewise, players are employees (in their minds) and commodities (in Venkys).
Once you do that, it starts to make some sense. It may not be pallitable, to the supporter, but thats reality.
As for Andersons involvement - he's an agent........end of!
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: There is a basic mistake in how some of the well-meaning but naive fellow fans on here look at what is going on at Rovers. Seen from a footie perspective none of their dealings make sense, but Venkys and Anderson are not interested in Rovers as a football club, they are interested in Rovers as a business opportunity. For Anderson it's win-win, the more transfers, deals the more fees he gets. Rovers are a gold mine for the spivs. Formica is not a player to them, he is a commodity who will be bought and sold without any thought about how that affects Rovers as a team. Venkys blundered into an ill advised venture, as someone notes above, IF footie is to take off in India, a shrewd business person there would buy into United, Liverpool, Spurs etc. It's clear Venkys have learnt the lesson and are pulling out, presumably asset-stripping was always a backstop to get the cash back and that's what they are doing. It could still all go belly up with acute cash flow crises which lead to bankruptcy. As to Harry, he may be affable and a good manager, but he's still ugly face of this quick fix, easy money attitude which is ruining football in this country.[/p][/quote]As usual Noddy we both see it for what it is. You have to detatch yourself from the 'supporter mentality' and look at it as a business. Likewise, players are employees (in their minds) and commodities (in Venkys). Once you do that, it starts to make some sense. It may not be pallitable, to the supporter, but thats reality. As for Andersons involvement - he's an agent........end of! bring back the good old days

5:35pm Mon 30 Jan 12

lancs1985 says...

there is a protest march before newcastle game, 7pm brown cow, everything is aimed at venlys for faulse promises and to sell the club,
The venkys are getting seriouse hell over in india now from every buisness because of there lies, they haveing a real hard time and we can only make it worse if big numbers and big banners, the indian media are going to be present at these marchs, so we need to get the point across, its war with them and iv said we will never give up until they are out and thats the truef, lets give them hell and drag there super chickens business down like they have with are club!!!
7pm brown cow livesy branch road
there is a protest march before newcastle game, 7pm brown cow, everything is aimed at venlys for faulse promises and to sell the club, The venkys are getting seriouse hell over in india now from every buisness because of there lies, they haveing a real hard time and we can only make it worse if big numbers and big banners, the indian media are going to be present at these marchs, so we need to get the point across, its war with them and iv said we will never give up until they are out and thats the truef, lets give them hell and drag there super chickens business down like they have with are club!!! 7pm brown cow livesy branch road lancs1985

11:00pm Mon 30 Jan 12

RoverInRotterdam says...

Ianwhittam wrote:
You hear fans whingeing on about getting behind the team, and kean seems to be improving. Well lets face it he only has one way to go and he has not got the management skills to improve noticeably.
How can any true fans look at what has not happened in this transfer window linked in with kean looking to accept bids for formica without feeling a raging anger that these muppets are killing the club. If the economic times of india are correct, venkys do not use a board of directors, just a general manager who liases directly with insanity head office in india. That being the case kean must be in favour of letting formica go if the right price comes along, we are possibly only keeping samba because outside bids were 'too low'. Where are the much needed players that kean said we were going to get in order to assure premiership survival, he said he was going to play his cards close to his chest.. all he has managed to achieve is developing a resemblance to mr bun the baker. God help the Rovers, because kean and the venkys won't
I agree Ian, All this b##llshit with Samba is because he's the last big player asset left and they want to make sure they get the maximum for him,if anyone had offered around 10 million,he'd be gone and Kean would probably have had 2million of it to play at being a manager for a while longer.If we go down this season,i can see very little left at Ewood when they put us up for sale after the first parachute payment been banked in the venkys account.... V/K/A Out !!! Rovers till I die !!!
[quote][p][bold]Ianwhittam[/bold] wrote: You hear fans whingeing on about getting behind the team, and kean seems to be improving. Well lets face it he only has one way to go and he has not got the management skills to improve noticeably. How can any true fans look at what has not happened in this transfer window linked in with kean looking to accept bids for formica without feeling a raging anger that these muppets are killing the club. If the economic times of india are correct, venkys do not use a board of directors, just a general manager who liases directly with insanity head office in india. That being the case kean must be in favour of letting formica go if the right price comes along, we are possibly only keeping samba because outside bids were 'too low'. Where are the much needed players that kean said we were going to get in order to assure premiership survival, he said he was going to play his cards close to his chest.. all he has managed to achieve is developing a resemblance to mr bun the baker. God help the Rovers, because kean and the venkys won't[/p][/quote]I agree Ian, All this b##llshit with Samba is because he's the last big player asset left and they want to make sure they get the maximum for him,if anyone had offered around 10 million,he'd be gone and Kean would probably have had 2million of it to play at being a manager for a while longer.If we go down this season,i can see very little left at Ewood when they put us up for sale after the first parachute payment been banked in the venkys account.... V/K/A Out !!! Rovers till I die !!! RoverInRotterdam

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