PLAYER RATINGS: Blackburn Rovers v Derby County

Rudy Gestede got eight out of 10

Rudy Gestede got eight out of 10

First published in Football

BLACKBURN Rovers reporter Paul Wheelock gives his ratings for yesterday's 1-1 draw at home to Derby County.

Do you agree with his ratings? Have your say using the comment facility below.

Paul Wheelock's ratings:

Paul Robinson 7: A calming presence on his return to the side, there was absolutely nothing he could do to prevent Derby’s equaliser.

Adam Henley 6: After Jamie Paterson one week earlier, Simon Dawkins provided another serious examination of the young full back.

Grant Hanley 7: Captain in the absence of the absent Scott Dann, the Scotsman did all he could to keep Derby at bay.

Matt Kilgallon 7: Impressive on his return to the side, proved there will be life after Dann if a Premier League club comes calling.

Tommy Spurr 7: Kept Jamie Ward quiet but was put on the back foot after Patrick Bamford and Conor Sammon were introduced.

Tom Cairney 7: Spread the play beautifully in the first half but tired towards the end of the match, leaving Henley exposed.

Chris Taylor 7: The industrious midfielder made some intelligent runs in the first half to get on the end of Cairney’s passes.

Jason Lowe 6: Full of running, he and substitute Lee Williamson could not stop Rams replacement Will Hughes from dictating the game.

Ben Marshall 6: Set up Rudy Gestede from one free kick and fired over another before going off with a suspected ankle-ligament damage.

Rudy Gestede 8: The £200,000 bargain buy dominated the Derby defence in the air and was in the right place at the right time to score.

Jordan Rhodes 7: Once again showed he has more to his game than goals, for the second home match running he set up Gestede to head in.

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12:42pm Sun 26 Jan 14

cowabunga says...

Keano 9 Ince 9 Slappleton 9 Berg 9 Bowyer 8 Venkys 10.
Keano 9 Ince 9 Slappleton 9 Berg 9 Bowyer 8 Venkys 10. cowabunga
  • Score: -19

12:55pm Sun 26 Jan 14

2014 and a stadium with wood seats? says...

cowabunga wrote:
Keano 9 Ince 9 Slappleton 9 Berg 9 Bowyer 8 Venkys 10.
Keep taking the tablets...wtf is your post meant to mean?.....try drinking less in the morning and u might make sense !
[quote][p][bold]cowabunga[/bold] wrote: Keano 9 Ince 9 Slappleton 9 Berg 9 Bowyer 8 Venkys 10.[/p][/quote]Keep taking the tablets...wtf is your post meant to mean?.....try drinking less in the morning and u might make sense ! 2014 and a stadium with wood seats?
  • Score: 17

1:34pm Sun 26 Jan 14

greenscreener says...

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Williamson, played 70 minutes but not worthy of a score, that's probably fair !
. Williamson, played 70 minutes but not worthy of a score, that's probably fair ! greenscreener
  • Score: 21

2:47pm Sun 26 Jan 14

kenbro says...

Might be a good idea to show the rating for the Manager. His decisions can have as much, or more, of an influence on the game as any player's performance.
The comments on that would be interesting.
Might be a good idea to show the rating for the Manager. His decisions can have as much, or more, of an influence on the game as any player's performance. The comments on that would be interesting. kenbro
  • Score: 8

2:53pm Sun 26 Jan 14

greenscreener says...

kenbro wrote:
Might be a good idea to show the rating for the Manager. His decisions can have as much, or more, of an influence on the game as any player's performance.
The comments on that would be interesting.
.....And predictable.
[quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Might be a good idea to show the rating for the Manager. His decisions can have as much, or more, of an influence on the game as any player's performance. The comments on that would be interesting.[/p][/quote].....And predictable. greenscreener
  • Score: 7

3:29pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Angry From Accrington says...

A little generous I would say
A little generous I would say Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 8

3:30pm Sun 26 Jan 14

FCBurnley says...

Sounds like a perfect day.................
for Burnley. Defeats for Reading and Boro. Derby drop 2 points and Rovers can only muster a pathetic 12500 for a vital must win win home game against attractive opposition. Sorry to hear about the injury to Marshall, sounds nasty.
Sounds like a perfect day................. for Burnley. Defeats for Reading and Boro. Derby drop 2 points and Rovers can only muster a pathetic 12500 for a vital must win win home game against attractive opposition. Sorry to hear about the injury to Marshall, sounds nasty. FCBurnley
  • Score: 0

3:56pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Thirtyfour Years says...

Can we please drop Lowe.
He runs around a lot but does little.

Also can we have Todd Kane back in the starting 11
Can we please drop Lowe. He runs around a lot but does little. Also can we have Todd Kane back in the starting 11 Thirtyfour Years
  • Score: 12

4:13pm Sun 26 Jan 14

owd nick says...

Robinson 6 - Not at his best but didn't stand a chance with the goal.
Henley 5 - Started brightly but faded badly in the second half.
Hanley 6 - Put himself in trouble with two early fouls but kept his cool after that.
Kilgallon 8 - For someone who has had limited chances was a rock at the back.
Spurr 7 - Decent game but should look to find Row K when under pressure more often instead of trying to dribble his way out of the area.
Cairney 8 - Played out of position yet again, class player, never gives up.
Taylor 7 - Another hard working performance.
Lowe 7 - Could have done the holding job on his own, Williamson simply gets in his way.
Marshall 6 - Not as bright as he has been in recent weeks but still got in some decent crosses that we should have scored at least one from.
Williamson (sub) 4 - For effort.
Gestede 9 - This guy is a gem of a find, a constant threat in the air and on the ground.
Rhodes 7 - Still not back to his lethal best but his cross for Gestede to score was pinpoint accurate, I could have scored that one.

I think in all fairness we should score the manager as well.

For what he is doing for the club behind the scenes 9 out of 10 but for tactical nous barely a 5.
Robinson 6 - Not at his best but didn't stand a chance with the goal. Henley 5 - Started brightly but faded badly in the second half. Hanley 6 - Put himself in trouble with two early fouls but kept his cool after that. Kilgallon 8 - For someone who has had limited chances was a rock at the back. Spurr 7 - Decent game but should look to find Row K when under pressure more often instead of trying to dribble his way out of the area. Cairney 8 - Played out of position yet again, class player, never gives up. Taylor 7 - Another hard working performance. Lowe 7 - Could have done the holding job on his own, Williamson simply gets in his way. Marshall 6 - Not as bright as he has been in recent weeks but still got in some decent crosses that we should have scored at least one from. Williamson (sub) 4 - For effort. Gestede 9 - This guy is a gem of a find, a constant threat in the air and on the ground. Rhodes 7 - Still not back to his lethal best but his cross for Gestede to score was pinpoint accurate, I could have scored that one. I think in all fairness we should score the manager as well. For what he is doing for the club behind the scenes 9 out of 10 but for tactical nous barely a 5. owd nick
  • Score: 23

6:02pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Properfan23 says...

owd nick wrote:
Robinson 6 - Not at his best but didn't stand a chance with the goal.
Henley 5 - Started brightly but faded badly in the second half.
Hanley 6 - Put himself in trouble with two early fouls but kept his cool after that.
Kilgallon 8 - For someone who has had limited chances was a rock at the back.
Spurr 7 - Decent game but should look to find Row K when under pressure more often instead of trying to dribble his way out of the area.
Cairney 8 - Played out of position yet again, class player, never gives up.
Taylor 7 - Another hard working performance.
Lowe 7 - Could have done the holding job on his own, Williamson simply gets in his way.
Marshall 6 - Not as bright as he has been in recent weeks but still got in some decent crosses that we should have scored at least one from.
Williamson (sub) 4 - For effort.
Gestede 9 - This guy is a gem of a find, a constant threat in the air and on the ground.
Rhodes 7 - Still not back to his lethal best but his cross for Gestede to score was pinpoint accurate, I could have scored that one.

I think in all fairness we should score the manager as well.

For what he is doing for the club behind the scenes 9 out of 10 but for tactical nous barely a 5.
Agree with 9/11 of your assessment. Taylor though was all huff and puff, has no turn of pace at all and takes an extra second to get moving, just watch. 6 at most. Henley was excellent first half but was exposed with 2 on 1 time and again in the second half as Cairney - again the best footballer on the pitch - tired on the wing. Play Tom in the middle FFS, drop Williamson (to blame for the goal) and we might have a chance of keeping possession and so preserving a lead!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Robinson 6 - Not at his best but didn't stand a chance with the goal. Henley 5 - Started brightly but faded badly in the second half. Hanley 6 - Put himself in trouble with two early fouls but kept his cool after that. Kilgallon 8 - For someone who has had limited chances was a rock at the back. Spurr 7 - Decent game but should look to find Row K when under pressure more often instead of trying to dribble his way out of the area. Cairney 8 - Played out of position yet again, class player, never gives up. Taylor 7 - Another hard working performance. Lowe 7 - Could have done the holding job on his own, Williamson simply gets in his way. Marshall 6 - Not as bright as he has been in recent weeks but still got in some decent crosses that we should have scored at least one from. Williamson (sub) 4 - For effort. Gestede 9 - This guy is a gem of a find, a constant threat in the air and on the ground. Rhodes 7 - Still not back to his lethal best but his cross for Gestede to score was pinpoint accurate, I could have scored that one. I think in all fairness we should score the manager as well. For what he is doing for the club behind the scenes 9 out of 10 but for tactical nous barely a 5.[/p][/quote]Agree with 9/11 of your assessment. Taylor though was all huff and puff, has no turn of pace at all and takes an extra second to get moving, just watch. 6 at most. Henley was excellent first half but was exposed with 2 on 1 time and again in the second half as Cairney - again the best footballer on the pitch - tired on the wing. Play Tom in the middle FFS, drop Williamson (to blame for the goal) and we might have a chance of keeping possession and so preserving a lead! Properfan23
  • Score: 11

6:23pm Sun 26 Jan 14

GAZHAY says...

greenscreener wrote:
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Williamson, played 70 minutes but not worthy of a score, that's probably fair !
Yep was just thinking thank god they didn't give marks to Williamson. Very apt!
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: . Williamson, played 70 minutes but not worthy of a score, that's probably fair ![/p][/quote]Yep was just thinking thank god they didn't give marks to Williamson. Very apt! GAZHAY
  • Score: 6

6:25pm Sun 26 Jan 14

GAZHAY says...

Properfan23 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Robinson 6 - Not at his best but didn't stand a chance with the goal.
Henley 5 - Started brightly but faded badly in the second half.
Hanley 6 - Put himself in trouble with two early fouls but kept his cool after that.
Kilgallon 8 - For someone who has had limited chances was a rock at the back.
Spurr 7 - Decent game but should look to find Row K when under pressure more often instead of trying to dribble his way out of the area.
Cairney 8 - Played out of position yet again, class player, never gives up.
Taylor 7 - Another hard working performance.
Lowe 7 - Could have done the holding job on his own, Williamson simply gets in his way.
Marshall 6 - Not as bright as he has been in recent weeks but still got in some decent crosses that we should have scored at least one from.
Williamson (sub) 4 - For effort.
Gestede 9 - This guy is a gem of a find, a constant threat in the air and on the ground.
Rhodes 7 - Still not back to his lethal best but his cross for Gestede to score was pinpoint accurate, I could have scored that one.

I think in all fairness we should score the manager as well.

For what he is doing for the club behind the scenes 9 out of 10 but for tactical nous barely a 5.
Agree with 9/11 of your assessment. Taylor though was all huff and puff, has no turn of pace at all and takes an extra second to get moving, just watch. 6 at most. Henley was excellent first half but was exposed with 2 on 1 time and again in the second half as Cairney - again the best footballer on the pitch - tired on the wing. Play Tom in the middle FFS, drop Williamson (to blame for the goal) and we might have a chance of keeping possession and so preserving a lead!
Agreed
[quote][p][bold]Properfan23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Robinson 6 - Not at his best but didn't stand a chance with the goal. Henley 5 - Started brightly but faded badly in the second half. Hanley 6 - Put himself in trouble with two early fouls but kept his cool after that. Kilgallon 8 - For someone who has had limited chances was a rock at the back. Spurr 7 - Decent game but should look to find Row K when under pressure more often instead of trying to dribble his way out of the area. Cairney 8 - Played out of position yet again, class player, never gives up. Taylor 7 - Another hard working performance. Lowe 7 - Could have done the holding job on his own, Williamson simply gets in his way. Marshall 6 - Not as bright as he has been in recent weeks but still got in some decent crosses that we should have scored at least one from. Williamson (sub) 4 - For effort. Gestede 9 - This guy is a gem of a find, a constant threat in the air and on the ground. Rhodes 7 - Still not back to his lethal best but his cross for Gestede to score was pinpoint accurate, I could have scored that one. I think in all fairness we should score the manager as well. For what he is doing for the club behind the scenes 9 out of 10 but for tactical nous barely a 5.[/p][/quote]Agree with 9/11 of your assessment. Taylor though was all huff and puff, has no turn of pace at all and takes an extra second to get moving, just watch. 6 at most. Henley was excellent first half but was exposed with 2 on 1 time and again in the second half as Cairney - again the best footballer on the pitch - tired on the wing. Play Tom in the middle FFS, drop Williamson (to blame for the goal) and we might have a chance of keeping possession and so preserving a lead![/p][/quote]Agreed GAZHAY
  • Score: 5

6:27pm Sun 26 Jan 14

adcr says...

I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us.

We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions.

His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money.

I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year.
I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us. We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions. His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money. I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year. adcr
  • Score: 9

6:47pm Sun 26 Jan 14

eros2010 says...

Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7.
Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.
Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7. Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form. eros2010
  • Score: 5

8:02pm Sun 26 Jan 14

keanoutofrovers says...

eros2010 wrote:
Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7.
Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.
Pretty accurate except for Robinson he looks far more commanding than Eastwood or Kean.
[quote][p][bold]eros2010[/bold] wrote: Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7. Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.[/p][/quote]Pretty accurate except for Robinson he looks far more commanding than Eastwood or Kean. keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 5

8:03pm Sun 26 Jan 14

CasBRFC says...

eros2010 wrote:
Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7.
Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.
Where was Dann????
[quote][p][bold]eros2010[/bold] wrote: Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7. Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.[/p][/quote]Where was Dann???? CasBRFC
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Sun 26 Jan 14

CasBRFC says...

Anybody know where Scott Dann was, injured, leaving, day off - anything???????
Anybody know where Scott Dann was, injured, leaving, day off - anything??????? CasBRFC
  • Score: 1

8:36pm Sun 26 Jan 14

fernhurst blue says...

CasBRFC wrote:
Anybody know where Scott Dann was, injured, leaving, day off - anything???????
According to rovers twitter in the pre match team news Dann was out with an Achilles injury. Strange how it was not reported earlier and he's been linked with a move away for the last 3 weeks.
[quote][p][bold]CasBRFC[/bold] wrote: Anybody know where Scott Dann was, injured, leaving, day off - anything???????[/p][/quote]According to rovers twitter in the pre match team news Dann was out with an Achilles injury. Strange how it was not reported earlier and he's been linked with a move away for the last 3 weeks. fernhurst blue
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Wild Rover says...

Dann was and is injured ,vffs, stop looking for conspiracies where there are none
Dann was and is injured ,vffs, stop looking for conspiracies where there are none Wild Rover
  • Score: 0

8:05am Mon 27 Jan 14

bburnrover says...

Hope we get a defensive midfielder before the window closes plus a back up striker or winger.
Hope we get a defensive midfielder before the window closes plus a back up striker or winger. bburnrover
  • Score: -1

9:16am Mon 27 Jan 14

Chipdan says...

In regards to Jason Lowe being a 'defensive midfielder', I can honestly not recall the guy making a tackle! And that's all season!
In regards to Jason Lowe being a 'defensive midfielder', I can honestly not recall the guy making a tackle! And that's all season! Chipdan
  • Score: -1

9:16am Mon 27 Jan 14

owd nick says...

eros2010 wrote:
Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7.
Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.
So Lowe is the only defensive midfielder in the entire country who deserves to be dropped because when he gets the ball he tends to pass it back to a centre half in space?

Didn't Derby have one of those?

I have watched quite a few games this season and amazingly even teams like Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, etc; etc have players who do that.

The problem isn't Lowe who, whether you like him or not rarely lets us down, but the manager's tactics of playing two players in that role most games, Williamson being the second.

That means we invariably have a bloody great hole in the middle of the park usually filled by two of our opponents, leaving Lowe with no option but to pass back, or give it to Williamson who then has to pass back, or more often than not give the ball to one of our opponents.

The problem isn't the players the problem is the tactics.

When GB brought Williamson on I said to my mate "If I was their manager I would bring an attacking midfielder on now", within 5 minutes or so he had done so and the game swung Derby's way.

It's not rocket science, I think GB is doing a great job for us behind the scenes but I think he needs to come and sit in the stands with us for a game or two, because I am convinced he can't see what is happening from the touchline.

Statler and Waldorf would soon pot him right. lol.
[quote][p][bold]eros2010[/bold] wrote: Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7. Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.[/p][/quote]So Lowe is the only defensive midfielder in the entire country who deserves to be dropped because when he gets the ball he tends to pass it back to a centre half in space? Didn't Derby have one of those? I have watched quite a few games this season and amazingly even teams like Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, etc; etc have players who do that. The problem isn't Lowe who, whether you like him or not rarely lets us down, but the manager's tactics of playing two players in that role most games, Williamson being the second. That means we invariably have a bloody great hole in the middle of the park usually filled by two of our opponents, leaving Lowe with no option but to pass back, or give it to Williamson who then has to pass back, or more often than not give the ball to one of our opponents. The problem isn't the players the problem is the tactics. When GB brought Williamson on I said to my mate "If I was their manager I would bring an attacking midfielder on now", within 5 minutes or so he had done so and the game swung Derby's way. It's not rocket science, I think GB is doing a great job for us behind the scenes but I think he needs to come and sit in the stands with us for a game or two, because I am convinced he can't see what is happening from the touchline. Statler and Waldorf would soon pot him right. lol. owd nick
  • Score: 6

9:32am Mon 27 Jan 14

bring back the good old days says...

adcr wrote:
I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us.

We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions.

His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money.

I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year.
Totally agree, as do all/most of others.
But, I have to say (again as most others) that GB is giving the worrying signals that 'safety first' is his game (plan). This is the reason I, and most cannot see us progressing to a 'challenging' team under his leadership.
This opinion gives no pleasure whatsoever to me, as I would love GB to come out of his shell be more bold and give the opposition something to think about
[quote][p][bold]adcr[/bold] wrote: I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us. We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions. His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money. I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, as do all/most of others. But, I have to say (again as most others) that GB is giving the worrying signals that 'safety first' is his game (plan). This is the reason I, and most cannot see us progressing to a 'challenging' team under his leadership. This opinion gives no pleasure whatsoever to me, as I would love GB to come out of his shell be more bold and give the opposition something to think about bring back the good old days
  • Score: 7

10:17am Mon 27 Jan 14

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
eros2010 wrote:
Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7.
Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.
So Lowe is the only defensive midfielder in the entire country who deserves to be dropped because when he gets the ball he tends to pass it back to a centre half in space?

Didn't Derby have one of those?

I have watched quite a few games this season and amazingly even teams like Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, etc; etc have players who do that.

The problem isn't Lowe who, whether you like him or not rarely lets us down, but the manager's tactics of playing two players in that role most games, Williamson being the second.

That means we invariably have a bloody great hole in the middle of the park usually filled by two of our opponents, leaving Lowe with no option but to pass back, or give it to Williamson who then has to pass back, or more often than not give the ball to one of our opponents.

The problem isn't the players the problem is the tactics.

When GB brought Williamson on I said to my mate "If I was their manager I would bring an attacking midfielder on now", within 5 minutes or so he had done so and the game swung Derby's way.

It's not rocket science, I think GB is doing a great job for us behind the scenes but I think he needs to come and sit in the stands with us for a game or two, because I am convinced he can't see what is happening from the touchline.

Statler and Waldorf would soon pot him right. lol.
Agreed, the starting eleven was about right, accepting current injuries. Loosing Marshall and replacing him with Williamson turned an attacking formation into a defensive one. That's not what we want to see when it's 0-0 at home. Should have been Dunn. Jason Lowe was certainly not the problem in that team.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eros2010[/bold] wrote: Robinson no chance with goal but should dominate his 6 yrd box more, 7 Henley gives his winger to much room 5, Hanley guilty of needless fouls 6 kilgannon average player 6, Spurr decent effort 7 Lowe needs dropping as plays to many negative balls to Centre halfs.5 Cairney out of position cuts back inside always. Needs to be left sided and in the middle. 7 Taylor needs to be winger not run around in middle 6. Marshall improving but again on wrong wing 7. Gestede winning go balls and worked hard 8. Rhodes set up goal nicely but still as to work hard on scraps 7. Manager is tactically poor, subs should have been on earlier as the players tired, Most looked unfit after 70mins and changing a centre forward for a defender is not the way to win games. However lots better than last year but not make the play-offs on this form.[/p][/quote]So Lowe is the only defensive midfielder in the entire country who deserves to be dropped because when he gets the ball he tends to pass it back to a centre half in space? Didn't Derby have one of those? I have watched quite a few games this season and amazingly even teams like Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, etc; etc have players who do that. The problem isn't Lowe who, whether you like him or not rarely lets us down, but the manager's tactics of playing two players in that role most games, Williamson being the second. That means we invariably have a bloody great hole in the middle of the park usually filled by two of our opponents, leaving Lowe with no option but to pass back, or give it to Williamson who then has to pass back, or more often than not give the ball to one of our opponents. The problem isn't the players the problem is the tactics. When GB brought Williamson on I said to my mate "If I was their manager I would bring an attacking midfielder on now", within 5 minutes or so he had done so and the game swung Derby's way. It's not rocket science, I think GB is doing a great job for us behind the scenes but I think he needs to come and sit in the stands with us for a game or two, because I am convinced he can't see what is happening from the touchline. Statler and Waldorf would soon pot him right. lol.[/p][/quote]Agreed, the starting eleven was about right, accepting current injuries. Loosing Marshall and replacing him with Williamson turned an attacking formation into a defensive one. That's not what we want to see when it's 0-0 at home. Should have been Dunn. Jason Lowe was certainly not the problem in that team. greenscreener
  • Score: 5

10:28am Mon 27 Jan 14

adcr says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
adcr wrote:
I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us.

We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions.

His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money.

I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year.
Totally agree, as do all/most of others.
But, I have to say (again as most others) that GB is giving the worrying signals that 'safety first' is his game (plan). This is the reason I, and most cannot see us progressing to a 'challenging' team under his leadership.
This opinion gives no pleasure whatsoever to me, as I would love GB to come out of his shell be more bold and give the opposition something to think about
I agree with you, and if in a year or two Bowyer is still making fundamental mistakes and playing a very defensive (preserve any lead at all costs) brand of football, then I think we will need a change of manager. Atm though this team largely consists of past manager signings, and I don’t think Bowyer thinks we are good enough to be a very attacking team.

Like everybody else I have been fed up on many occasions this season, but when I calm down, I can see we are slowly moving in the right direction. After successive managers have made poor signings, I am just relieved and grateful we now have a manager who seems to know what he is doing in the transfer market.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]adcr[/bold] wrote: I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us. We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions. His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money. I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, as do all/most of others. But, I have to say (again as most others) that GB is giving the worrying signals that 'safety first' is his game (plan). This is the reason I, and most cannot see us progressing to a 'challenging' team under his leadership. This opinion gives no pleasure whatsoever to me, as I would love GB to come out of his shell be more bold and give the opposition something to think about[/p][/quote]I agree with you, and if in a year or two Bowyer is still making fundamental mistakes and playing a very defensive (preserve any lead at all costs) brand of football, then I think we will need a change of manager. Atm though this team largely consists of past manager signings, and I don’t think Bowyer thinks we are good enough to be a very attacking team. Like everybody else I have been fed up on many occasions this season, but when I calm down, I can see we are slowly moving in the right direction. After successive managers have made poor signings, I am just relieved and grateful we now have a manager who seems to know what he is doing in the transfer market. adcr
  • Score: 1

11:42am Mon 27 Jan 14

owd nick says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
adcr wrote:
I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us.

We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions.

His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money.

I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year.
Totally agree, as do all/most of others.
But, I have to say (again as most others) that GB is giving the worrying signals that 'safety first' is his game (plan). This is the reason I, and most cannot see us progressing to a 'challenging' team under his leadership.
This opinion gives no pleasure whatsoever to me, as I would love GB to come out of his shell be more bold and give the opposition something to think about
I sort of agree, I for one don't want us to go up this season, I am not being negative it's just that from what I have seen so far this season, both down at Ewood and on the TV, there is only one club currently in the Championship now that will have a chance of surviving next season in the PL.

And that club is Derby County.

And for the three clubs that are relegated from the PL this season it will be a total disaster from the financial perspective.

The gulf now between even a mediocre side in the PL and a top Championship side is huge, and growing every day.

Play some decent football, get the fans onside and believing again, maybe get a play off place, even get to Wembley, that would be great.

Think about it, when you look at the silly money being spent on average players now, the imminent introduction of Fair Play, well, getting £100 million for finishing last in the PL won't even cut it.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]adcr[/bold] wrote: I think people have been a bit hard on Bowyer in recent weeks. Last year he saved us from relegation, and this year we are playoff possibles. He has made us hard to beat, managed to get a team spirit going, and players actually want to sign for us. We are going in the right direction in my eyes, despite quite a few dissapointing results this season, and one or two strange tactical decisions. His double transfer swoop for Cairney and Gestede appears to be an unbelievable bit of business - both for just under a million pounds (I wouldn't take £6m for the pair atm). Not many managers out there could go out and buy that much quality, for so little money. I can't see us going up this year, but if we can keep our best players over the summer, and make a few more quality signings, we will be right up there next year.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, as do all/most of others. But, I have to say (again as most others) that GB is giving the worrying signals that 'safety first' is his game (plan). This is the reason I, and most cannot see us progressing to a 'challenging' team under his leadership. This opinion gives no pleasure whatsoever to me, as I would love GB to come out of his shell be more bold and give the opposition something to think about[/p][/quote]I sort of agree, I for one don't want us to go up this season, I am not being negative it's just that from what I have seen so far this season, both down at Ewood and on the TV, there is only one club currently in the Championship now that will have a chance of surviving next season in the PL. And that club is Derby County. And for the three clubs that are relegated from the PL this season it will be a total disaster from the financial perspective. The gulf now between even a mediocre side in the PL and a top Championship side is huge, and growing every day. Play some decent football, get the fans onside and believing again, maybe get a play off place, even get to Wembley, that would be great. Think about it, when you look at the silly money being spent on average players now, the imminent introduction of Fair Play, well, getting £100 million for finishing last in the PL won't even cut it. owd nick
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