The daily sport debate: Is spot fixing a problem in sport?

Lancashire Telegraph: DJ Campbell DJ Campbell

BLACKBURN Rovers have been rocked by the match fixing accusations that have swept across football.

Striker DJ Campbell is alleged to have deliberately picked up a yellow card in Rovers’ 3-1 defeat to Ipswich on Tuesday night in exchange for cash.

Campbell came off the bench for Rovers in the weekend draw with QPR and Ewood Park officials confirmed he was one of the six people arrested as part of the investigations.

How much of a problem is spot-fixing in football and what can the authorities do to help eradicate it?

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7:33am Tue 10 Dec 13

makaveli96 says...

Why didnt he NAP us?
Why didnt he NAP us? makaveli96

7:36am Tue 10 Dec 13

makaveli96 says...

This is why all players should be born within a 5 mile radias from the ground.

You then get players that want to do the best for the town and club there from.

If this carrys on the local pride will be gone from all sport.

Just look at the England cricket team?
This is why all players should be born within a 5 mile radias from the ground. You then get players that want to do the best for the town and club there from. If this carrys on the local pride will be gone from all sport. Just look at the England cricket team? makaveli96

8:01am Tue 10 Dec 13

FakeVilla_MTCabinet says...

Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.
Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police. FakeVilla_MTCabinet

8:13am Tue 10 Dec 13

SteppBladder says...

Allegations are just beginning to emerge in the UK so we don't know yet if it is a serious problem in football. Time will tell. However, spot betting clearly creates the potential for cheating to occur. If it is found to be a problem in football then it is difficult to see how the football authorities could stop it - there will be much wringing of hands, shaking of heads and lots of 'investigations' but really not much they would be able to do. Banning spot betting seems to be the only option and that would have to be a world-wide ban and probably aint gonna happen. If it is a problem in football or any other sport, it’s up to the bookies to find a way of controlling it. Actually, one thing the football authorities could do is stop bookies from sponsoring and advertising in world football..
Allegations are just beginning to emerge in the UK so we don't know yet if it is a serious problem in football. Time will tell. However, spot betting clearly creates the potential for cheating to occur. If it is found to be a problem in football then it is difficult to see how the football authorities could stop it - there will be much wringing of hands, shaking of heads and lots of 'investigations' but really not much they would be able to do. Banning spot betting seems to be the only option and that would have to be a world-wide ban and probably aint gonna happen. If it is a problem in football or any other sport, it’s up to the bookies to find a way of controlling it. Actually, one thing the football authorities could do is stop bookies from sponsoring and advertising in world football.. SteppBladder

8:21am Tue 10 Dec 13

SteppBladder says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.
Agree that in-play betting should be stopped and we could do that in the UK, maybe in Europe if it is found to be a big problem, but, according to reports, the big money comes from asia. I don't think we are ever going to get a world-wide ban.
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.[/p][/quote]Agree that in-play betting should be stopped and we could do that in the UK, maybe in Europe if it is found to be a big problem, but, according to reports, the big money comes from asia. I don't think we are ever going to get a world-wide ban. SteppBladder

8:31am Tue 10 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Obviously it is a problem and I would bet (sorry!) there are quite a few players throughout the leagues whose sphincters tightened noticeably over the last few days.

OK these are only allegations but the NCA don't arrest people just for the fun of it, and now the finger has been pointed then Rovers and Campbell have to see sense.

Campbell has to be suspended, he cannot be allowed anywhere near the club or players because they have already been tainted by his alleged actions; "Gardening leave" is the normal euphemism.

Whether he is paid or not while on leave is irrelevant.

As a Rovers fan of over 40 years I am disgusted by his actions, we fans have to believe that every player in the team on the pitch is giving everything to win, this single, stupid, act of greed calls that into question.

Now, every mistimed tackle, every mistake however genuine will be called into question, it's a sad day for Rovers and their fans, it's an even sadder day for football.
Obviously it is a problem and I would bet (sorry!) there are quite a few players throughout the leagues whose sphincters tightened noticeably over the last few days. OK these are only allegations but the NCA don't arrest people just for the fun of it, and now the finger has been pointed then Rovers and Campbell have to see sense. Campbell has to be suspended, he cannot be allowed anywhere near the club or players because they have already been tainted by his alleged actions; "Gardening leave" is the normal euphemism. Whether he is paid or not while on leave is irrelevant. As a Rovers fan of over 40 years I am disgusted by his actions, we fans have to believe that every player in the team on the pitch is giving everything to win, this single, stupid, act of greed calls that into question. Now, every mistimed tackle, every mistake however genuine will be called into question, it's a sad day for Rovers and their fans, it's an even sadder day for football. owd nick

8:36am Tue 10 Dec 13

French Rover says...

I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on.

This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over....

The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial.

So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. .
I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on. This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over.... The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial. So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. . French Rover

8:39am Tue 10 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

No. It's just a bit of fun and perfectly harmless as no professional sportsman would ever get involved.
No. It's just a bit of fun and perfectly harmless as no professional sportsman would ever get involved. Angry From Accrington

9:00am Tue 10 Dec 13

FakeVilla_MTCabinet says...

Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play
Lovely
Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play Lovely FakeVilla_MTCabinet

9:28am Tue 10 Dec 13

makaveli96 says...

French Rover wrote:
I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on.

This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over....

The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial.

So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. .
You can bet on individual players to be booked on Betfair.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on. This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over.... The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial. So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. .[/p][/quote]You can bet on individual players to be booked on Betfair. makaveli96

9:31am Tue 10 Dec 13

owd nick says...

French Rover wrote:
I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on.

This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over....

The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial.

So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. .
I would add jail terms into the mix as well.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on. This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over.... The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial. So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. .[/p][/quote]I would add jail terms into the mix as well. owd nick

10:01am Tue 10 Dec 13

French Rover says...

makaveli96 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on.

This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over....

The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial.

So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. .
You can bet on individual players to be booked on Betfair.
you certainky can Mr M and many more things also corners and sendings--off and loads more stuff. Looks like the bookies have come on a bit since I used to put my weekly each-way 5p Yankee on every saturday!.
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: I dont think any UK bookies at all take any bets for `spot-fixing` where an individual incident like getting a yellow or red card etc can be wagered on. This style of betting has come from Asia most notably in the Indian sub continent where it is this style of betting is extremely common in cricket where you can even bet on individual deliveries in an over.... The Pakistani touring team were caught doing it in England in 2010 and Indian cricketers have been found doing this during this year in the Indian Cricket Premier League matches. It has also been identified in Australia Rugby League, where several people have been arrested and are awaiting trial. So it is very much a global disease driven by gambling and greed. lamost impossible to legislate for - so the only thing we can do is hand out the hardest possible ounishment fr anyone caught doing this. A lifetime ban from their respective sports and very high fines for all found guilty may just help to keep any spot fixing to an absolute minimum. .[/p][/quote]You can bet on individual players to be booked on Betfair.[/p][/quote]you certainky can Mr M and many more things also corners and sendings--off and loads more stuff. Looks like the bookies have come on a bit since I used to put my weekly each-way 5p Yankee on every saturday!. French Rover

10:02am Tue 10 Dec 13

hasslem hasslem says...

its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so. hasslem hasslem

10:22am Tue 10 Dec 13

FakeVilla_MTCabinet says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again FakeVilla_MTCabinet

11:31am Tue 10 Dec 13

hasslem hasslem says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
never mentioned Venkys. you are looking for an implication that simply isn't there.

if i thought of venkys why would i mention boxers going down in round 5....boxing corruption has historically been an issue in europe (notably britain) and the USA.

never said it was solely focused on Asia - but the fact remains that the current home of large scale illegal betting is within SE Asia and Indian Sub-continent.....th
is is largely because betting is illegal (just like off course betting was in the UK until off-track bookies were legalised in the early 1960s).

clearly, there is dodgy stuff going on all over the place (witness the goings on at godolphin and with that irish racehorse trainer that have both been done in 2013) - but the footie and cricket stuff is Asia. The Venkys happen to come from Asia - it does not follow that they are corrupt and nor did I imply that.
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again[/p][/quote]never mentioned Venkys. you are looking for an implication that simply isn't there. if i thought of venkys why would i mention boxers going down in round 5....boxing corruption has historically been an issue in europe (notably britain) and the USA. never said it was solely focused on Asia - but the fact remains that the current home of large scale illegal betting is within SE Asia and Indian Sub-continent.....th is is largely because betting is illegal (just like off course betting was in the UK until off-track bookies were legalised in the early 1960s). clearly, there is dodgy stuff going on all over the place (witness the goings on at godolphin and with that irish racehorse trainer that have both been done in 2013) - but the footie and cricket stuff is Asia. The Venkys happen to come from Asia - it does not follow that they are corrupt and nor did I imply that. hasslem hasslem

11:41am Tue 10 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.
Loser
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.[/p][/quote]Loser RobH2O

11:41am Tue 10 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play
Lovely
Loser
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play Lovely[/p][/quote]Loser RobH2O

11:42am Tue 10 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
Loser
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again[/p][/quote]Loser RobH2O

1:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

owd nick says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
Well, no he hasn't its a pertinent point and a well known fact.

To a certain extent I can understand players playing in lower leagues on very low wages being tempted, but someone like Campbell who has played in the PL for two clubs and depending which reports you read is on between £20k and £35k per week at Rovers?

If he isn't a millionaire by now there is something seriously wrong, so why does he need to do it? If he has done of course.
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again[/p][/quote]Well, no he hasn't its a pertinent point and a well known fact. To a certain extent I can understand players playing in lower leagues on very low wages being tempted, but someone like Campbell who has played in the PL for two clubs and depending which reports you read is on between £20k and £35k per week at Rovers? If he isn't a millionaire by now there is something seriously wrong, so why does he need to do it? If he has done of course. owd nick

2:22pm Tue 10 Dec 13

waggyonthewing says...

2012,rovers 2 Norwich 0,i was in ladbrokes before the game and in walked mr Keans guest for the day mr Moyes and placed a large sum of money on Rovers to be winning at half time and full time not sure about the amount but the lady on the till had to ring her head office to see if she could take the bet,now i personally havent got a problem with that bet but i know it was going against the rules of the game,this is a true story plenty of rovers fans had there pictures took with him,personally i cant stand the man,maybe his mate could help him out at his new club after all he is a fantastiic coach David.
2012,rovers 2 Norwich 0,i was in ladbrokes before the game and in walked mr Keans guest for the day mr Moyes and placed a large sum of money on Rovers to be winning at half time and full time not sure about the amount but the lady on the till had to ring her head office to see if she could take the bet,now i personally havent got a problem with that bet but i know it was going against the rules of the game,this is a true story plenty of rovers fans had there pictures took with him,personally i cant stand the man,maybe his mate could help him out at his new club after all he is a fantastiic coach David. waggyonthewing

2:42pm Tue 10 Dec 13

midas says...

There is an interesting article in the Times on this subject. First point was that there is no evidence of any unusual betting patterns on players getting a yellow or red card? How much money was taken by the bookies that DJ would get a card (either against Ipswich or Blackpool). Second was the amount of money you could win.

Normally odds of 4/1 on a player getting a card. If a player is getting paid 30k-70k to get a card its a lot of small individual bets (anything over £250 stake would be refused) to make any sort of profit.
There is an interesting article in the Times on this subject. First point was that there is no evidence of any unusual betting patterns on players getting a yellow or red card? How much money was taken by the bookies that DJ would get a card (either against Ipswich or Blackpool). Second was the amount of money you could win. Normally odds of 4/1 on a player getting a card. If a player is getting paid 30k-70k to get a card its a lot of small individual bets (anything over £250 stake would be refused) to make any sort of profit. midas

3:50pm Tue 10 Dec 13

hasslem hasslem says...

midas wrote:
There is an interesting article in the Times on this subject. First point was that there is no evidence of any unusual betting patterns on players getting a yellow or red card? How much money was taken by the bookies that DJ would get a card (either against Ipswich or Blackpool). Second was the amount of money you could win.

Normally odds of 4/1 on a player getting a card. If a player is getting paid 30k-70k to get a card its a lot of small individual bets (anything over £250 stake would be refused) to make any sort of profit.
Greetings Midas - to some extent the times article misses the point - there may not have been any unusual betting patterns - but by its very nature any betting pattern monitor.....will only monitor legitimate betting NOT the dodgy stuff.

its a bit akin to measuring illegal immigration levels - you only know when you know
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: There is an interesting article in the Times on this subject. First point was that there is no evidence of any unusual betting patterns on players getting a yellow or red card? How much money was taken by the bookies that DJ would get a card (either against Ipswich or Blackpool). Second was the amount of money you could win. Normally odds of 4/1 on a player getting a card. If a player is getting paid 30k-70k to get a card its a lot of small individual bets (anything over £250 stake would be refused) to make any sort of profit.[/p][/quote]Greetings Midas - to some extent the times article misses the point - there may not have been any unusual betting patterns - but by its very nature any betting pattern monitor.....will only monitor legitimate betting NOT the dodgy stuff. its a bit akin to measuring illegal immigration levels - you only know when you know hasslem hasslem

5:02pm Tue 10 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.
Loser
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.[/p][/quote]Loser RobH2O

5:02pm Tue 10 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play
Lovely
Loser
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play Lovely[/p][/quote]Loser RobH2O

5:03pm Tue 10 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
Loser
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again[/p][/quote]Loser RobH2O

5:34pm Tue 10 Dec 13

leyton says...

its been going for years and the press and the FA know about it but keep it quiet jeez
its been going for years and the press and the FA know about it but keep it quiet jeez leyton

7:30pm Tue 10 Dec 13

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.
Loser
Stalker.
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]Stalker. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions

7:30pm Tue 10 Dec 13

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
Loser
Stalker.
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]Stalker. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions

7:31pm Tue 10 Dec 13

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play
Lovely
Loser
Stalker.
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play Lovely[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]Stalker. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions

8:19pm Tue 10 Dec 13

SteppBladder says...

RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
Loser
A friend of yours FV?
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]A friend of yours FV? SteppBladder

9:31am Wed 11 Dec 13

no ney never says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play
Lovely
Loser
Stalker.
How can you call anyone after the post you wrote the other day that I had removed by the moderator. Only the likes of Gary glitter would have appreciated that sort of vile abhorrent message regarding children you horrible BEAST. Clearly not a parent or you would not have published it.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play Lovely[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]Stalker.[/p][/quote]How can you call anyone after the post you wrote the other day that I had removed by the moderator. Only the likes of Gary glitter would have appreciated that sort of vile abhorrent message regarding children you horrible BEAST. Clearly not a parent or you would not have published it. no ney never

8:08pm Wed 11 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters.

i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports.

one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too.

its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay.

awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.
Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again
Loser
Stalker.
I humbled by your praise. I will find a way to thank you appropriately......
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: its ok for loads of people to cry that this should be made illegal - that's the point...the yokes that are organising all of this activity are part of illegal betting syndicates and prevalent throughout SE Asia and Indian subcontinent and controlled by mafia style gangsters. i am not saying that no naughtiness goes on in UK - but the big money is elsewhere and spreads across a number of sports. one suspects that the payments made to dodgy sportsmen emanate from this part of the globe too. its a real disappointment to all of us who love our sport pure - but cheating and in sport is endemic - how often have you heard about dodgy boxers going down in round 5 etc.....that is a form of spot betting and as long as there are gangsters - there will be mugs waiting to take a pay. awful that a rovers player is being investigated and makes you wonder if it is wider spread throughout our club. it will be heartbreaking if it is so.[/p][/quote]Don't see it as a problem out of india/asia exclusively, its been going on in south america and italy since the game began. Think you've got your anti venky mind control foil hat on again[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]Stalker.[/p][/quote]I humbled by your praise. I will find a way to thank you appropriately...... RobH2O

8:11pm Wed 11 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp
ions
wrote:
RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play
Lovely
Loser
Stalker.
I humbled by your praise. I will find a way to thank you appropriately......
[quote][p][bold]BRFC:ThePeoplesChamp ions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Next follow through, Sean Dyche aginst Leicester, its all about the in play Lovely[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]Stalker.[/p][/quote]I humbled by your praise. I will find a way to thank you appropriately...... RobH2O

8:12pm Wed 11 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

RobH2O wrote:
FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.
Loser
I humbled by your praise. I will find a way to thank you appropriately......
[quote][p][bold]RobH2O[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: Its a big problem in any sport, especially with the amounts of money changing hands. All this in play stuff should be stopped. Just payout on the result otherwise its harder to police.[/p][/quote]Loser[/p][/quote]I humbled by your praise. I will find a way to thank you appropriately...... RobH2O

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