Rovers reject Bunn offer (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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MHUK wrote:
Emile Heskey it is then.

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Come off it, £20 is more than a months wages......sorry benefits, for the shoeless soup stained locals in Trampburn, no wonder you cant fill that 7 seater minibus!

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Angry Bob wrote:

PK1875 wrote: Anyone still thinking of travelling to Ipswich Executive Coach Travel ONLY £20 Includes Breakfast Leaves Brown Cow Livesey 6.30 contact paul@brfcactiongroup .co.uk

Come off it, £20 is more than a months wages......sorry benefits, for the shoeless soup stained locals in Trampburn, no wonder you cant fill that 7 seater minibus!

Bob.......Just get back to scruff land at the other end of the motorway and shut up...Plonker.

Angry Bob wrote:

MHUK wrote:
Emile Heskey it is then.

I wouldn't count on it, he probably still has standards.

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence.
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Kean Out!
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34th.....

MatthewCA wrote:
We cannot sell any player with Ewood experiance. Prem clubs offered very less to our Bunn, he is young and excellent in keeping also. Robbo got experiance, hope they share the post this season with more clean sheets. All the best for 18th Aug match.

RUinsane wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence.
.
Kean Out!
.
34th.....

Makes no difference, Robinson was the worst keeper in the prem last season with regards to shots on target and shots saved represented as a percentage. That stat doesn't lie. It shows how good a keeper you are, and Robinson was so bad he doesn't even appear on the list of goalkeepers from last season in the prem. He's not even on the list whereas Bolton had both goalkeepers in there, Jussi and Bogdan both scored way higher than robinson, yet conceded the same amount of goals. So that should set alarm bells ringing. Even the wolves keeper gets a higher score.
Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, but he needs to warm the bench. Its got nothing to do with what defence is in front of you at all. Shots on target to shots succefully saved is the measure to go off.

Miller11 wrote:
Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

RUinsane wrote:

Miller11 wrote: Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

Got any stats to back up your outlandish theory? Bogdan is twice the keeper. Robbo is pants, if he was any good he'd still be at spuds and not be 5th choice for england. Even David James is higher in the england pecking order and he's 95 years old Robbo is another reason we got relegated, he's that bad.

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence.
.
Kean Out!
.
34th.....

Makes no difference, Robinson was the worst keeper in the prem last season with regards to shots on target and shots saved represented as a percentage. That stat doesn't lie. It shows how good a keeper you are, and Robinson was so bad he doesn't even appear on the list of goalkeepers from last season in the prem. He's not even on the list whereas Bolton had both goalkeepers in there, Jussi and Bogdan both scored way higher than robinson, yet conceded the same amount of goals. So that should set alarm bells ringing. Even the wolves keeper gets a higher score.
Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, but he needs to warm the bench. Its got nothing to do with what defence is in front of you at all. Shots on target to shots succefully saved is the measure to go off.

Ha. What a load of rubbish. Did you watch every shot that every player had against every goalkeeper in the league?

It is like saying N'Zonzi is the best passer in the PL because his OPTA completed passes stats are very high, or Pedersen is the most dogged player in the league because he consistently runs a KM further than anyone else on the pitch over 90 mins.

Come on now, Steve Kean loves a good stat - lets not fall in to that trap.

I don't particularly rate Robbo but don't act as if this is some sort of proof of his culpability for last seasons goals.

StLedge wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Miller11 wrote: Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

Got any stats to back up your outlandish theory? Bogdan is twice the keeper. Robbo is pants, if he was any good he'd still be at spuds and not be 5th choice for england. Even David James is higher in the england pecking order and he's 95 years old Robbo is another reason we got relegated, he's that bad.

Robbo retired from International football so everyone would rank higher than him...

RUinsane wrote:
I see others have taken note that Bunn is a better option than Robinson. Bunn should be number 1. Robbo should be number 2. Before you know it, they'll be making the same mistake as when he let Given leave. Robinson out Bunn in. Kean open your eyes, these are the reasons you went down, because you put friendship and arse kissing before ability. Hence Nzonzi being on the bench whilst Dunn and the pensioner waited for meals on wheels. Why you put Bradley Orr in and let Salgado watch formula 1.

AndyW wrote:
A couple of good games does not make Bunn a fantastic goalkeeper.

There's a reason why he's a number 2/3 and that's because - at this stage of his career - he's not consistent enough to be a first choice for a club like ours.

Robbo is an excellent GK and was let down time and time again last season by awful defending and beyond embarrassing tactics by Kean.

Put Robbo in Arsenal's team and you'll see what he can do.

It's a case of not knowing what you've got until it's gone and I think a lot of people would be in for a shock if we sold Robbo and was left with Bunn for the entire season.

JessePinkman wrote:

RUinsane wrote:
I see others have taken note that Bunn is a better option than Robinson. Bunn should be number 1. Robbo should be number 2. Before you know it, they'll be making the same mistake as when he let Given leave. Robinson out Bunn in. Kean open your eyes, these are the reasons you went down, because you put friendship and arse kissing before ability. Hence Nzonzi being on the bench whilst Dunn and the pensioner waited for meals on wheels. Why you put Bradley Orr in and let Salgado watch formula 1.

I agree with you on most of this, but Salgado?
Legend and a nice guy, but let's not pretend he wasn't a liability on the pitch last season.

I think people have lost their sense of perspective on any player who falls foul of kean, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. Getting rid of the likes of Roberts, Andrews and Salgado was the right thing to do. Failure to bring in adequate replacements doesn't change the fact these players weren't good enough for the premiership.

RUinsane wrote:

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence.
.
Kean Out!
.
34th.....

Makes no difference, Robinson was the worst keeper in the prem last season with regards to shots on target and shots saved represented as a percentage. That stat doesn't lie. It shows how good a keeper you are, and Robinson was so bad he doesn't even appear on the list of goalkeepers from last season in the prem. He's not even on the list whereas Bolton had both goalkeepers in there, Jussi and Bogdan both scored way higher than robinson, yet conceded the same amount of goals. So that should set alarm bells ringing. Even the wolves keeper gets a higher score.
Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, but he needs to warm the bench. Its got nothing to do with what defence is in front of you at all. Shots on target to shots succefully saved is the measure to go off.

Ha. What a load of rubbish. Did you watch every shot that every player had against every goalkeeper in the league?

It is like saying N'Zonzi is the best passer in the PL because his OPTA completed passes stats are very high, or Pedersen is the most dogged player in the league because he consistently runs a KM further than anyone else on the pitch over 90 mins.

Come on now, Steve Kean loves a good stat - lets not fall in to that trap.

I don't particularly rate Robbo but don't act as if this is some sort of proof of his culpability for last seasons goals.

No I didn't watch every shot at every keeper in every game, OPTA did it for me and thats why they get paid big bucks.
You are obviously too dim to understand what stats mean. Go back to school and take maths to a decent level.
The goal is eight feet wide by 24 feet across and the stats are measured by the number of shots on target to the number successfully saved. The goalkeepers job is to stop it going in. It doesn't get much simpler. I can break it down a bit further for you if you are struggling to take it in, I'm good at teaching maths y'know.

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence.
.
Kean Out!
.
34th.....

Makes no difference, Robinson was the worst keeper in the prem last season with regards to shots on target and shots saved represented as a percentage. That stat doesn't lie. It shows how good a keeper you are, and Robinson was so bad he doesn't even appear on the list of goalkeepers from last season in the prem. He's not even on the list whereas Bolton had both goalkeepers in there, Jussi and Bogdan both scored way higher than robinson, yet conceded the same amount of goals. So that should set alarm bells ringing. Even the wolves keeper gets a higher score.
Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, but he needs to warm the bench. Its got nothing to do with what defence is in front of you at all. Shots on target to shots succefully saved is the measure to go off.

Ha. What a load of rubbish. Did you watch every shot that every player had against every goalkeeper in the league?

It is like saying N'Zonzi is the best passer in the PL because his OPTA completed passes stats are very high, or Pedersen is the most dogged player in the league because he consistently runs a KM further than anyone else on the pitch over 90 mins.

Come on now, Steve Kean loves a good stat - lets not fall in to that trap.

I don't particularly rate Robbo but don't act as if this is some sort of proof of his culpability for last seasons goals.

No I didn't watch every shot at every keeper in every game, OPTA did it for me and thats why they get paid big bucks.
You are obviously too dim to understand what stats mean. Go back to school and take maths to a decent level.
The goal is eight feet wide by 24 feet across and the stats are measured by the number of shots on target to the number successfully saved. The goalkeepers job is to stop it going in. It doesn't get much simpler. I can break it down a bit further for you if you are struggling to take it in, I'm good at teaching maths y'know.

I'm a Dr who teaches quantitative and qualitative methods to students.

Quite simply for you - they do not work out the standard of each shot do they?

It is a simple calculation they have done - there are variables missing.

I can't remember that many shots that I thought Robbo should have saved - however, if we take Bogdan, as you mentioned, I can remember him dropping a few into the back of his net.

I'm not trying to argue with you, but all I would say is that this is exactly what Steve Kean does to justify things that have gone wrong during a match. They are reasonably useful but they do not tell the whole story. I would rather have Robbo than a number of keepers in the PL - is he really the worse in the PL?

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence.
.
Kean Out!
.
34th.....

Makes no difference, Robinson was the worst keeper in the prem last season with regards to shots on target and shots saved represented as a percentage. That stat doesn't lie. It shows how good a keeper you are, and Robinson was so bad he doesn't even appear on the list of goalkeepers from last season in the prem. He's not even on the list whereas Bolton had both goalkeepers in there, Jussi and Bogdan both scored way higher than robinson, yet conceded the same amount of goals. So that should set alarm bells ringing. Even the wolves keeper gets a higher score.
Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, but he needs to warm the bench. Its got nothing to do with what defence is in front of you at all. Shots on target to shots succefully saved is the measure to go off.

Ha. What a load of rubbish. Did you watch every shot that every player had against every goalkeeper in the league?

It is like saying N'Zonzi is the best passer in the PL because his OPTA completed passes stats are very high, or Pedersen is the most dogged player in the league because he consistently runs a KM further than anyone else on the pitch over 90 mins.

Come on now, Steve Kean loves a good stat - lets not fall in to that trap.

I don't particularly rate Robbo but don't act as if this is some sort of proof of his culpability for last seasons goals.

No I didn't watch every shot at every keeper in every game, OPTA did it for me and thats why they get paid big bucks.
You are obviously too dim to understand what stats mean. Go back to school and take maths to a decent level.
The goal is eight feet wide by 24 feet across and the stats are measured by the number of shots on target to the number successfully saved. The goalkeepers job is to stop it going in. It doesn't get much simpler. I can break it down a bit further for you if you are struggling to take it in, I'm good at teaching maths y'know.

I'm a Dr who teaches quantitative and qualitative methods to students.

Quite simply for you - they do not work out the standard of each shot do they?

It is a simple calculation they have done - there are variables missing.

I can't remember that many shots that I thought Robbo should have saved - however, if we take Bogdan, as you mentioned, I can remember him dropping a few into the back of his net.

I'm not trying to argue with you, but all I would say is that this is exactly what Steve Kean does to justify things that have gone wrong during a match. They are reasonably useful but they do not tell the whole story. I would rather have Robbo than a number of keepers in the PL - is he really the worse in the PL?

the_scandinavian wrote:

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence.
.
Kean Out!
.
34th.....

Makes no difference, Robinson was the worst keeper in the prem last season with regards to shots on target and shots saved represented as a percentage. That stat doesn't lie. It shows how good a keeper you are, and Robinson was so bad he doesn't even appear on the list of goalkeepers from last season in the prem. He's not even on the list whereas Bolton had both goalkeepers in there, Jussi and Bogdan both scored way higher than robinson, yet conceded the same amount of goals. So that should set alarm bells ringing. Even the wolves keeper gets a higher score.
Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, but he needs to warm the bench. Its got nothing to do with what defence is in front of you at all. Shots on target to shots succefully saved is the measure to go off.

Ha. What a load of rubbish. Did you watch every shot that every player had against every goalkeeper in the league?

It is like saying N'Zonzi is the best passer in the PL because his OPTA completed passes stats are very high, or Pedersen is the most dogged player in the league because he consistently runs a KM further than anyone else on the pitch over 90 mins.

Come on now, Steve Kean loves a good stat - lets not fall in to that trap.

I don't particularly rate Robbo but don't act as if this is some sort of proof of his culpability for last seasons goals.

No I didn't watch every shot at every keeper in every game, OPTA did it for me and thats why they get paid big bucks.
You are obviously too dim to understand what stats mean. Go back to school and take maths to a decent level.
The goal is eight feet wide by 24 feet across and the stats are measured by the number of shots on target to the number successfully saved. The goalkeepers job is to stop it going in. It doesn't get much simpler. I can break it down a bit further for you if you are struggling to take it in, I'm good at teaching maths y'know.

I'm a Dr who teaches quantitative and qualitative methods to students.

Quite simply for you - they do not work out the standard of each shot do they?

It is a simple calculation they have done - there are variables missing.

I can't remember that many shots that I thought Robbo should have saved - however, if we take Bogdan, as you mentioned, I can remember him dropping a few into the back of his net.

I'm not trying to argue with you, but all I would say is that this is exactly what Steve Kean does to justify things that have gone wrong during a match. They are reasonably useful but they do not tell the whole story. I would rather have Robbo than a number of keepers in the PL - is he really the worse in the PL?

Goalkeeper 1 dives the wrong way to make a save, the ball gets a deflection and catches him between the eyes, knocks him unconscious and shoots up to the crossbar and out, lands somewhere near the centre spot.
Goalkeeper 2 makes a fantastic dive across the face of the goal getting his fingertips to an "impossible" curling shot which catches the underside of the bar and drops in.
According to statistics the idiot unconscious on the goal line is a 100% better goalkeeper than goalkeeper 2...

Oxford Rover wrote:
When are we going to get a kit sponsor?? Or are we having the Prince's Trust again?

bburnrover wrote:
Why argue about silly points we should be assessing who Kean should go for now they cannot afford Rhodes should we pay massive salaries to old playerslike Michael Owen? or should we be hocking the club for a no brainer like Rhodes who will double in value when we go up?

Oxford Rover wrote:
When are we going to get a kit sponsor?? Or are we having the Prince's Trust again?

YarkshahRover wrote:
RUinsane: Your points would be much more forceful if you didn't feel the need to demean those who do not accept your arguements unreservedly. RTID does have a point about the stats not being able to take into accout all of the variables. The stats are not absolute. They are mearly indicators. In some cases stong ones, sometimes not. We don't always know which. Mabe you are right but have a little patience with those who disagree with you. Sorry if there's a lot of spelling mistakes in this but I'm on a Dutch computer and it's telling me that every other word is incorrect.

RUinsane wrote:

YarkshahRover wrote:
RUinsane: Your points would be much more forceful if you didn't feel the need to demean those who do not accept your arguements unreservedly. RTID does have a point about the stats not being able to take into accout all of the variables. The stats are not absolute. They are mearly indicators. In some cases stong ones, sometimes not. We don't always know which. Mabe you are right but have a little patience with those who disagree with you. Sorry if there's a lot of spelling mistakes in this but I'm on a Dutch computer and it's telling me that every other word is incorrect.

Sorry, I know I have a tendancy to be blunt, its the way I'm made I'm afraid. I get loads of people complaining about my attitude. So the stats must be correct, I am the arsehole who always thinks they're always correct :0)
Sorry if sometimes it comes across as in yer face but I have no problem getting things across with fewer words if you know what I mean.
I still say Robbo needs to step down and let Bunn through.

YarkshahRover wrote:
RUinsane: Your points would be much more forceful if you didn't feel the need to demean those who do not accept your arguements unreservedly. RTID does have a point about the stats not being able to take into accout all of the variables. The stats are not absolute. They are mearly indicators. In some cases stong ones, sometimes not. We don't always know which. Mabe you are right but have a little patience with those who disagree with you. Sorry if there's a lot of spelling mistakes in this but I'm on a Dutch computer and it's telling me that every other word is incorrect.

RUinsane wrote:

AndyW wrote:
A couple of good games does not make Bunn a fantastic goalkeeper.

There's a reason why he's a number 2/3 and that's because - at this stage of his career - he's not consistent enough to be a first choice for a club like ours.

Robbo is an excellent GK and was let down time and time again last season by awful defending and beyond embarrassing tactics by Kean.

Put Robbo in Arsenal's team and you'll see what he can do.

It's a case of not knowing what you've got until it's gone and I think a lot of people would be in for a shock if we sold Robbo and was left with Bunn for the entire season.

Another who doesn't understand, okay I'll explain for the brain dead.Boltons defence was sh1t, Rovers defence was sh1t.
Bogdan gets 20 shots on target and saves18 of them, he has a 90% success rate, robbo gets 20 shots on target and saves 16 of them, means he's only got an 80% success rate, strewth you guys are hard work. Do you need some help?
It means Bogdan is a better keeper by 10%, is that easy enough for you to get in your skulls? Robbo was the worst keeper in the PL by a long way, not a small amount, by a helluva long way. These number I just made up. Review the stats yourself at Opta. The reason why no-one has come in for Robbo is because he's that bad.

Miller11 wrote:
Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

lusorover wrote:
Interesting report from the Daily Telegraph that Kean has been told that he must achieve 16 points from the first seven games to avoid a 'review' of his position by the owners.

About time.

Gennoe1 wrote:

Miller11 wrote:
Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

Agree completely pal,Bunn puts so much pressure on the defence,refuses to leave his six yard box,great shot-stoppers are ten a penny throughout the league,the kind of keeper that like Given looks great onM O T D highlights,however over 90 mins will undoubtedly fail to stop chances at source,by refusing to be anything more than a goal line stopper,using shots to stops ratio to beat Robbo with is Nonsense,as the defence left him so exposed ,that the chances afforded to the opposition where invariably guilt edged or unchallenged,Surely anyone can see its the defence that is the major problem.Except Kean perhaps.

RUinsane wrote:

YarkshahRover wrote:
RUinsane: Your points would be much more forceful if you didn't feel the need to demean those who do not accept your arguements unreservedly. RTID does have a point about the stats not being able to take into accout all of the variables. The stats are not absolute. They are mearly indicators. In some cases stong ones, sometimes not. We don't always know which. Mabe you are right but have a little patience with those who disagree with you. Sorry if there's a lot of spelling mistakes in this but I'm on a Dutch computer and it's telling me that every other word is incorrect.

Sorry, I know I have a tendancy to be blunt, its the way I'm made I'm afraid. I get loads of people complaining about my attitude. So the stats must be correct, I am the arsehole who always thinks they're always correct :0)
Sorry if sometimes it comes across as in yer face but I have no problem getting things across with fewer words if you know what I mean.
I still say Robbo needs to step down and let Bunn through.

RTID wrote:

Gennoe1 wrote:

Miller11 wrote:
Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

Agree completely pal,Bunn puts so much pressure on the defence,refuses to leave his six yard box,great shot-stoppers are ten a penny throughout the league,the kind of keeper that like Given looks great onM O T D highlights,however over 90 mins will undoubtedly fail to stop chances at source,by refusing to be anything more than a goal line stopper,using shots to stops ratio to beat Robbo with is Nonsense,as the defence left him so exposed ,that the chances afforded to the opposition where invariably guilt edged or unchallenged,Surely anyone can see its the defence that is the major problem.Except Kean perhaps.

Agree with this also. While I think that Bunn has the potential to be good he is a keeper that tends to stick between his posts and in the six yard box. I saw him drop a couple of crosses also playing for Sheff Utd. Robbo comes for a lot and plays almost as a sweeper for Rovers at times. He actually controls his box better than most in the PL - for example Friedel was a keeper that came for very little, but he made up for it because he was an unbelievable shot stopper.

Saying that, if Robbo goes or gets injured, I think Bunn deserves a chance at being number 1 - he hasn't let us down.

Also, Robbo is sometimes a bit suspect on long shots.

The reason I have commented a lot on this story is that I am a keeper myself.

Angry Bob wrote:

PK1875 wrote: Anyone still thinking of travelling to Ipswich Executive Coach Travel ONLY £20 Includes Breakfast Leaves Brown Cow Livesey 6.30 contact paul@brfcactiongroup .co.uk

Come off it, £20 is more than a months wages......sorry benefits, for the shoeless soup stained locals in Trampburn, no wonder you cant fill that 7 seater minibus!

lusorover wrote:
Interesting report from the Daily Telegraph that Kean has been told that he must achieve 16 points from the first seven games to avoid a 'review' of his position by the owners. About time.

Roverholic wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Angry Bob wrote:

PK1875 wrote: Anyone still thinking of travelling to Ipswich Executive Coach Travel ONLY £20 Includes Breakfast Leaves Brown Cow Livesey 6.30 contact paul@brfcactiongroup .co.uk

Come off it, £20 is more than a months wages......sorry benefits, for the shoeless soup stained locals in Trampburn, no wonder you cant fill that 7 seater minibus!

Bob.......Just get back to scruff land at the other end of the motorway and shut up...Plonker.

I think he's just frustrated.. with all this rain the horses have been kept indoors recently... makes them harder to get to ;)

bluefadingfast wrote:

Roverholic wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Angry Bob wrote:

PK1875 wrote: Anyone still thinking of travelling to Ipswich Executive Coach Travel ONLY £20 Includes Breakfast Leaves Brown Cow Livesey 6.30 contact paul@brfcactiongroup .co.uk

Come off it, £20 is more than a months wages......sorry benefits, for the shoeless soup stained locals in Trampburn, no wonder you cant fill that 7 seater minibus!

Bob.......Just get back to scruff land at the other end of the motorway and shut up...Plonker.

I think he's just frustrated.. with all this rain the horses have been kept indoors recently... makes them harder to get to ;)

Being indoors is a bonus, at least he can get at him Mum, Sister, Brother -- your Mums your Dad etc.:)

RUinsane wrote:

RTID wrote:

Gennoe1 wrote:

Miller11 wrote:
Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

Agree completely pal,Bunn puts so much pressure on the defence,refuses to leave his six yard box,great shot-stoppers are ten a penny throughout the league,the kind of keeper that like Given looks great onM O T D highlights,however over 90 mins will undoubtedly fail to stop chances at source,by refusing to be anything more than a goal line stopper,using shots to stops ratio to beat Robbo with is Nonsense,as the defence left him so exposed ,that the chances afforded to the opposition where invariably guilt edged or unchallenged,Surely anyone can see its the defence that is the major problem.Except Kean perhaps.

Agree with this also. While I think that Bunn has the potential to be good he is a keeper that tends to stick between his posts and in the six yard box. I saw him drop a couple of crosses also playing for Sheff Utd. Robbo comes for a lot and plays almost as a sweeper for Rovers at times. He actually controls his box better than most in the PL - for example Friedel was a keeper that came for very little, but he made up for it because he was an unbelievable shot stopper.

Saying that, if Robbo goes or gets injured, I think Bunn deserves a chance at being number 1 - he hasn't let us down.

Also, Robbo is sometimes a bit suspect on long shots.

The reason I have commented a lot on this story is that I am a keeper myself.

I was a centre half, my job was to head everything clear, including the goalkeeper if required. :0) thats why I look like steve bruce cept with a wider nose. And your statement explains your defence of Robbo as all keepers blame everyone else barr themselves.

RUinsane wrote:

RTID wrote:

Gennoe1 wrote:

Miller11 wrote:
Robinson is far superior to Bunn. We have the best keeper by far in the Championship in Robbo. I'd let Bunn go, as Jake Kean really does look like one for the future.

Agree completely pal,Bunn puts so much pressure on the defence,refuses to leave his six yard box,great shot-stoppers are ten a penny throughout the league,the kind of keeper that like Given looks great onM O T D highlights,however over 90 mins will undoubtedly fail to stop chances at source,by refusing to be anything more than a goal line stopper,using shots to stops ratio to beat Robbo with is Nonsense,as the defence left him so exposed ,that the chances afforded to the opposition where invariably guilt edged or unchallenged,Surely anyone can see its the defence that is the major problem.Except Kean perhaps.

Agree with this also. While I think that Bunn has the potential to be good he is a keeper that tends to stick between his posts and in the six yard box. I saw him drop a couple of crosses also playing for Sheff Utd. Robbo comes for a lot and plays almost as a sweeper for Rovers at times. He actually controls his box better than most in the PL - for example Friedel was a keeper that came for very little, but he made up for it because he was an unbelievable shot stopper.

Saying that, if Robbo goes or gets injured, I think Bunn deserves a chance at being number 1 - he hasn't let us down.

Also, Robbo is sometimes a bit suspect on long shots.

The reason I have commented a lot on this story is that I am a keeper myself.

I was a centre half, my job was to head everything clear, including the goalkeeper if required. :0) thats why I look like steve bruce cept with a wider nose. And your statement explains your defence of Robbo as all keepers blame everyone else barr themselves.

Iiii1111 wrote:
who was the goalkeeper at OT & anfield!

RUinsane wrote:

RTID wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote: I think some comments are harsh on Robinson. He did not have a great season but a keeper needs a good defence. Kean either sold or alienated our best defence. . Kean Out! . 34th.....

Makes no difference, Robinson was the worst keeper in the prem last season with regards to shots on target and shots saved represented as a percentage. That stat doesn't lie. It shows how good a keeper you are, and Robinson was so bad he doesn't even appear on the list of goalkeepers from last season in the prem. He's not even on the list whereas Bolton had both goalkeepers in there, Jussi and Bogdan both scored way higher than robinson, yet conceded the same amount of goals. So that should set alarm bells ringing. Even the wolves keeper gets a higher score. Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, but he needs to warm the bench. Its got nothing to do with what defence is in front of you at all. Shots on target to shots succefully saved is the measure to go off.

Ha. What a load of rubbish. Did you watch every shot that every player had against every goalkeeper in the league? It is like saying N'Zonzi is the best passer in the PL because his OPTA completed passes stats are very high, or Pedersen is the most dogged player in the league because he consistently runs a KM further than anyone else on the pitch over 90 mins. Come on now, Steve Kean loves a good stat - lets not fall in to that trap. I don't particularly rate Robbo but don't act as if this is some sort of proof of his culpability for last seasons goals.

No I didn't watch every shot at every keeper in every game, OPTA did it for me and thats why they get paid big bucks. You are obviously too dim to understand what stats mean. Go back to school and take maths to a decent level. The goal is eight feet wide by 24 feet across and the stats are measured by the number of shots on target to the number successfully saved. The goalkeepers job is to stop it going in. It doesn't get much simpler. I can break it down a bit further for you if you are struggling to take it in, I'm good at teaching maths y'know.

thommovat wrote:

lusorover wrote: Interesting report from the Daily Telegraph that Kean has been told that he must achieve 16 points from the first seven games to avoid a 'review' of his position by the owners. About time.

This piece of "information/di
sinfo rmation?" has been going the rounds for the last few weeks and has almost certainly come from the lips of SS. So, like just about everything he said on Saturday morning, must be taken with a pinch of salt (not to mention the vinegar). Lets hope someone with BFC intetrests at heart can buy the club and get rid of SK and ALL his cronies.