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Blackburn Rovers boss preparing for the Premier League
2:10pm Saturday 7th July 2012 in Sport
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
STEVE Kean insists Blackburn Rovers are already preparing for their Premier League return – but admits they are resigned to doing it without Junior Hoilett.
The Canadian starlet is currently without a club after his Rovers contract expired but, despite keeping their offer on the table for him, Kean admits they are now preparing without him.
It is understood QPR and Newcastle are among the Premier League teams interested in Hoilett, while there are also numerous suitors from abroad.
But, with Danny Murphy, Leon Best and Nuno Gomes already on board this summer, and other signings planned, Kean believes Rovers are looking beyond just getting promotion.
He said: “The thing is Junior is out of contract.
“We put an offer in front of him that never had any signature. We have to plan without him now.
“The type of signings we are making shows you what we are trying to do this season. We have been working hard. Myself and Shebby Singh flew back from a meeting with the owners in Zurich on Friday morning.
“When we get to the level we want to get to, we are signing players who can play at that level.
“It is not just players who can get you there, it is players who have already done well there.
“You can get players who might get you out of the league and then they might struggle a little bit. But Leon Best and Danny Murphy and Nuno Gomes are players of pedigree and quality.”
The addition of 36-year-old former Benfica striker Gomes has raised eyebrows among some.
But Kean is adamant the striker is not coming here ‘to graze’ and is hopeful the majority of last season’s squad will also stay together.
Kean said: “If Nuno had wanted to go into the sunset he would have gone to Qatar or LA, he wouldn’t have come to the north west.
“I know what sort of financial package he could have got elsewhere. He has certainly not come here to graze.
“I have been talking to most of the players and they are telling me they want to stay. Whether they are telling their agents something else I don’t know.
“We would like to keep the majority of the squad together. We think we can have, if not the best squad, one of the best squads in the league.”
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Comments (235)
2:20pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
(cue torrent of repetitive abuse)..
2:30pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
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You already had them Mr Kean, remember. It was you who got rid of them and we were relegated.
2:37pm Sat 7 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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A good boozy day out, not even thinking about footie. That's a positive!
2:40pm Sat 7 Jul 12
bypass06 says...
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2:43pm Sat 7 Jul 12
petergray says...
Best thing now is probably to ignore him.
Forget he is stood there, alone, hands in pockets, festering - pretend we cannot see him as he could not see the 'plane.
Turn off the television if he is on and ask the press to not interview him or report anything he says.
Maybe one day we will wake up and find it was all a bad dream.
Support the team and ignore the Kea* ( who? ) ?
2:45pm Sat 7 Jul 12
tombo1984 says...
Why would any professional football manager ever say that to the media...?
Oh i forgot. He is only a professional football manager in name.
2:50pm Sat 7 Jul 12
super clarets 26 says...
2:50pm Sat 7 Jul 12
1riversider says...
2:51pm Sat 7 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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Positive I am!
2:52pm Sat 7 Jul 12
BRFCs says...
However, without a change at the top, Kean will forever be here and I'd much rather wish Rovers success than Kean to fail. It all boils down to that. I respect and understand other fans who have differing views though.
COYB!!!!
2:56pm Sat 7 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
2:58pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Bluegoose says...
He must be very **** up when he makes these comments, even the chicken that wea on the pitch at the wigan game is traumaticed and needs counselling with that poor farmer having to SHELL out
3:05pm Sat 7 Jul 12
P888HOW says...
3:11pm Sat 7 Jul 12
burner says...
3:16pm Sat 7 Jul 12
jaysay says...
3:37pm Sat 7 Jul 12
jogalot says...
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SK can twist it maybe better than the lot of them! So perhaps he really is a superbly positive, brilliant manager. Venky's and their appointed ones certainly seem to think so. It's maddening that the new players seem to think so too.
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So sad that a man who has adapted so well to the modern way of life of booze, lies and **** hasn't got a clue about football and Blackburn.
3:37pm Sat 7 Jul 12
A Darener says...
3:40pm Sat 7 Jul 12
A Darener says...
3:43pm Sat 7 Jul 12
stick to football says...
3:43pm Sat 7 Jul 12
buzzinfly says...
Our day will come.
3:47pm Sat 7 Jul 12
French Rover says...
3:48pm Sat 7 Jul 12
A Darener says...
4:02pm Sat 7 Jul 12
garyintandem says...
I agree, we have to get behind the team and forget our "manager"
4:27pm Sat 7 Jul 12
lowelife says...
The fans are aware of that, the players are aware of that, some members of the owning family are aware of that.
Sadly, Kean, himself and Mrs Desai, are not.
Unless we protest about his continued employment he will remain in charge, totally deluded and driving the club to oblivion at an alarming speed.
4:31pm Sat 7 Jul 12
lowelife says...
Kindred spirits and all that.
4:36pm Sat 7 Jul 12
juanbbien says...
5:02pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
This is getting ridiculous now."The claims made by our source, that the Stadium Manager John Newsham, who is no longer with the club and his team had been following orders from above to prioritise preventing protests, ahead of supporter safety is of massive concern to us, as an FSF affiliated supporters group."
Since Venkys weren't even at the match and Kean was busy "working" his magic to get us relegated as was his apparent gameplan, who may I ask would be responsible if not the stadium manager?
Maybe Newsham was fired for his negligence?
5:04pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
5:07pm Sat 7 Jul 12
buzzinfly says...
5:08pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Hallelujah!
Beautifully said French Rover! :)
5:10pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
5:10pm Sat 7 Jul 12
katrew says...
Kean out
Venky's out
5:35pm Sat 7 Jul 12
dangerous dave says...
Planning for the premiership with or without some players is pure clap trap - what a simpleton!!!!!!!!!!!
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He should be planning for a good season in the championship with the hope that he at least gets to the play off'S but of course this is a Manager without a brain - just clap trap!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH KEAN SINGH AGNEW (the silent one) VENKYS
5:36pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
5:40pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
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How can anybody believe a word that this idiot comes out with.
5:45pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Grow up old man.
"Ignore the Kean, Support the team"
5:50pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
"Ignore the Kean, Support the team"
5:51pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
6:02pm Sat 7 Jul 12
bring back the good old days says...
6:07pm Sat 7 Jul 12
bring back the good old days says...
Absolutely unbelieveable.
6:13pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner says...
As for him talking to the players lets see how many stop, any bets anyone, the players are not stupid!
Kean and his Mrs out
6:18pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
"Ignore the haters and ignore the Kean, Support our players and support the team"
6:29pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
6:36pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Ianwhittam says...
Rovers roar...KEAN OUT!
6:36pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
come on.
Anyway, I don't invite anyone to join me. Me, my family and friends who I sit with won't be needing to beg anyone to join.
ps. 5k is a twitter figure banded around since the first eatly bird closed. Try closer to 10k - and thats from an ITK.
"Ignore the haters and ignore the Kean, Support our players by supporting the team"
6:41pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
6:54pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
6:59pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
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By the way....It was Agnew who said only 10% would renew no matter what...Not me.
7:08pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
So you are going to every away game, paying visitor prices at OT , Chelsea etc plus the cost of travelling etc and the extra time involved and all on a pension?
SK is more believable than that.
What about the wife/ significant other? They wont have a say in you roaming the country spending 4or5 times the cost of a home game?
Yeah right, and don't bother trying the wife died and left me all her money bs so I could lead my protest against the evil one
You Sir , are a charlatan and a fraud far beyond the scope of any one at Ewood
7:24pm Sat 7 Jul 12
whittleblue says...
7:32pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Love Rovers Hate Venkys says...
7:36pm Sat 7 Jul 12
maltese blue n white says...
7:41pm Sat 7 Jul 12
whittaker0 says...
7:51pm Sat 7 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
I'll wager its closer to 10 than 5.
Away support only is choice, sure it will cause embarrassment to Venky's (if they ever attend), but it will be water off a ducks back for the unsackable one.
The people it will hurt most is the team as it would serve only to demoralise the players playing in front of an empty stadium, and I and thousands like me will be there SUPPORTING THE TEAM and ensuring that doesn't happen. The 2mill or so lost in ticket sales to Venky's is literally chicken feed to them compared to how much they will receive and probably already have received in other payments.
7:53pm Sat 7 Jul 12
RUinsane says...
7:58pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Love Rovers Hate Venkys says...
Due to the VERMIN in India, Steve Kean and all the other parasites that have attached themselves to this once great club, it's not OT and Chelsea anymore, it's Barnsley, Palace, Brighton etc. And the season after, it could be Fleetwood, Morcambe or bloody ACCRINGTON we could be visiting!
Kean OUT! Venky's OUT! Borat OUT! Anderson OUT! (both of 'em!) Agnew OUT! Orr OUT! Happy Clappers OUT! OUT! OUT!
7:58pm Sat 7 Jul 12
merlinrabbit says...
8:02pm Sat 7 Jul 12
merlinrabbit says...
8:10pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
As for Kean, he's just carried on this season with his deluded positivity as last, as though nothing has happened.
"There's no way we will be relegated"..........
.Who said that ?
8:22pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
So you are going to every away game, paying visitor prices at OT , Chelsea etc plus the cost of travelling etc and the extra time involved and all on a pension?
SK is more believable than that.
What about the wife/ significant other? They wont have a say in you roaming the country spending 4or5 times the cost of a home game?
Yeah right, and don't bother trying the wife died and left me all her money bs so I could lead my protest against the evil one
You Sir , are a charlatan and a fraud far beyond the scope of any one at Ewood
8:22pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
So you are going to every away game, paying visitor prices at OT , Chelsea etc plus the cost of travelling etc and the extra time involved and all on a pension?
SK is more believable than that.
What about the wife/ significant other? They wont have a say in you roaming the country spending 4or5 times the cost of a home game?
Yeah right, and don't bother trying the wife died and left me all her money bs so I could lead my protest against the evil one
You Sir , are a charlatan and a fraud far beyond the scope of any one at Ewood
8:26pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
8:34pm Sat 7 Jul 12
happiness says...
8:39pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
I know which league we are in but does he?
I aint no fool
8:44pm Sat 7 Jul 12
CARover says...
8:50pm Sat 7 Jul 12
bossindian says...
8:54pm Sat 7 Jul 12
bypass06 says...
Richard Scudamore certainly didn't think it was stupid when he read the letter in front of us, infact he instructed us to go straight to the police! being the nice people we are, we allowed the club the right of reply before we did this, they chose to not discuss it, so we've done what was asked from the person who reported it to us.
9:00pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
Sad
Immoral tyrant-no , he is just a failed manager, one of many
Get a grip girls
9:13pm Sat 7 Jul 12
juanbbien says...
9:14pm Sat 7 Jul 12
roverfor60years says...
However, last weekend ‘unsackable’ Kean was quoted on Sky Sports as having said the owners didn’t consider his position in their meetings and talks in India and Zurich have been “open and positive”.
Now Kean says: “Myself and Shebby Singh flew back from a meeting with the owners in Zurich on Friday morning.”
Zurich? Kentaro’s home base! So, no matter how much Anderson denies it, they are still involved. And what authority do Kentaro/Anderson wield?
Curiously, those quotes on Sky were quickly deleted from the captions at the bottom of the screen. On whose authority, I wonder?
9:16pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner says...
9:33pm Sat 7 Jul 12
RUinsane says...
Maybe it was a flare. Do you know what it was? One things for certain, I know what the language was, totally disgusted.
Next time you hire a plane, issue some hard hats will you. There is no way a fire officer would be ignored about a evacuation, there was no fire alarm so there was no evacuation. More BS just makes you look stupid. If a fire officer deems an evacuation is required, he doesn't ask for permission, he just activates the fire alarm and you all leave, so if he didn't do it, and it should have been done, he needs to be relieved of his duties.
9:40pm Sat 7 Jul 12
gleechy says...
"I have been talking to most of the players and they are telling me they want to stay. Whether they are telling their agents something else I don’t know".
A throw away statement designed to cause trouble with players. He knows they are not allowed to express their true feelings and deliberately taunts them. He is one dodgy geezer.
He has no doubt full control of the club, and is happy to lie as and when required. Any preson working at Ewood has this lying toad to answer to. How much more proof does anybody need that he can't control his gob? just because he says something good about the future of the club, fans don't have to agree, because he sounds like he means it.
He says he isn't thinking about relegation, not possible, he says.
He is a useless Manager, his players hate him and his decieteful ways, they get paid to play football, so they can say nothing.
It is very rare that a person so mad has got a top job in football. The proof is his talking far out weighs his actions. When you give Blackburn your up front payments, you are helping this lyers credibility a little, but I'm sure you know that by now. Hopefully when the club starts to drop like a stone next season, he will be dealt with, but looking at all the chances he was given last season as he failed miserably I doubt it, bottom five at Christmas if he is still in charge.
9:55pm Sat 7 Jul 12
vicn1956 says...
We're planning for the pemiership.
When will it all end.
H E L P!
10:26pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Love Rovers Hate Venkys says...
10:46pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
Steve Kean, failed football manager not Darth Vader!
10:56pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
More importantly I support my club , you are a troll and a liar.
I note you change your story to suit ..
11:12pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Wild Rover says...
This site is infected by Trolls. Most views (but not all) on this site are not representative of BRFC nor it's true supporters
11:20pm Sat 7 Jul 12
Matt Newcastle says...
Where the he'll is peoples integrity these days.
Unbelievable the lot of you who have put positives against this entry.
11:24pm Sat 7 Jul 12
TrueBlue (Formerly GetRealUIdiot) says...
11:36pm Sat 7 Jul 12
TrueBlue (Formerly GetRealUIdiot) says...
11:48pm Sat 7 Jul 12
cactus rover says...
12:14am Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
All this talk of asset stripping, but why didnt Venkys cash in on the likes of Hoillett when they had a chance rather than let him walk for free knowing he would not sign?
Why bother with any new players at all if asset stripping and profiteering was the goal, when there's enough juniors in the academy to fulfill most positions?
12:45am Sun 8 Jul 12
NICEONESUNSHINE, says...
Wild Rover seems to thing that Woevers will be playing at OT and Chelsea next season. When it was pointed out to him that Woevers were relegated to the Championship last season he tries to turn it around by saying it was clever ruse to trap someone....yes very clever you certainly fooled everyone Wildy.
Meanwhile Lancs Pensioner is obsessed with images of Mr & Mrs Kean sitting in "there beauty full" home sipping "champange" and counting cash.
Bravo on girls more of the laughs please. Encore
1:27am Sun 8 Jul 12
TrueBlue (Formerly GetRealUIdiot) says...
1:33am Sun 8 Jul 12
TrueBlue (Formerly GetRealUIdiot) says...
5:54am Sun 8 Jul 12
Roverthere says...
7:20am Sun 8 Jul 12
forever-a-blue-jean says...
7:35am Sun 8 Jul 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...
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Thousands of other blues have chosen The Alamo response.
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History will repeat itself!. I just hope when Kean finally is sacked we have not lost too many fans for years. Lets be honest Shaw and Agnew must be praying for a bad start to the season so they can sack Kean and solve all their problems with fans in one go!
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34th...
8:56am Sun 8 Jul 12
maltaman says...
9:27am Sun 8 Jul 12
onlyonesimongarner says...
I was there through Jim Iley, and Paul Ince
and I will see these clowns out as well
It is my town, my team and my right to be there
So all you TRUE post 95 Rovers Fans can shove your opinions where the Sun Don`t Shine
I know I am I1m Sure I am
9:43am Sun 8 Jul 12
Trueblue12 says...
9:49am Sun 8 Jul 12
banned again phil.m says...
9:56am Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Seems like the dark forces at play here are not just the owners kean and agents.
Why are the action group so keen to criminalise Venkys? The latest fire story shows a very clear intent to discredit the management, whereby clearly it would have been the then stadium manager that would have been held to account.
If the club was such a well oiled gem, why were there so few buyers?
Why were the Walkers Trust so desperate to sell? What were THEIR criteria for fit and proper ownership of their mentors legacy? Were the revered John Williams and company disconnected from the sale?
Surely if Kean and unknown agents held titleship to the assets that are BRFC which were sold, Walkers Trust lawyers would have been party to that information and thus party to the crime?
If the now infamous 400 page document had evidence of wrong doing, why haven't arrests been made, whilst building a case takes time, any criminal activity would immediately be minimised by court orders restricting any further destruction to the club, had iron cast proof of criminal behaviour been presented, as is the case of ALL criminal cases of this sort?
Are we to assume that the remaining players, both new and old are innocently oblivious to the dodgy backend dealings, being closer to the club than any one of us, yet through talking to various "insiders" the action group have uncovered what the players are oblivious of, or is the assumption that the players are involved too?
And lastly, given the serious libelous nature of the allegations, if there has been conclusive evidence provided by the action group to the authorities, instead of hearsay, inciteful opinions and suspected motives whatnot, the end result of the aforementioned owners, agents and managers tenure should be coming to an abrupt end very soon, should it not?
Why then are the same people who believe in these conspiracy theories:
a) Constantly referring to the document and its intended consequences, thus risking jeopardising such proceedings and
b) Why so much animosity to those who are renewing season tickets and attending the games and attempts to dissuade fans forcefully being made with herd-like ferocity, if it's all about to come crashing down anyway?
The vultures appear to have been circling the good ship Ewood ever since it was purchased by Venky's, and maybe dodgy agents motives and good bollywood skullduggery IS about to be unmasked.. but maybe there are other coyotes also circling licking their lips at the prospect of an easy gain whilst the kill appears to be wounded...
10:15am Sun 8 Jul 12
gleechy says...
10:20am Sun 8 Jul 12
gleechy says...
10:44am Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
Most people believe there is something else going on because Steve Kean is still our manager. No other manager in footballing history has done so badly, or has even got close to alienating their fans as much, but is still in a job. But Venkys don't want to sack him, they suddenly want to splash the cash in a desperate attempt to keep him.
There are definitely something suspicious therefore going on within the club, that is without question. I have never referred to any "document" to show any kind of conspiracy, so stop tarring people with the same brush. The facts speak for themselves.
Who are these other "vultures" circling though blueblooded, and more importantly who are these "dark forces" you talk about?
It's funny because the only people to have publicly mentioned any "dark forces" at work against Venkys is Steve Kean and Jerome Anderson. And of course new users online like yourself, but you could be anyone of course, including obviously Steve Kean.
Yet another brand new user on here the other week accused me of being one of these dark forces. That user, who was a short lived but busy poster, knew an awful lot of inside info on the club, but then disappeared. They actually went further and accused me of being the leader of the EDL!!
Is that the dark forces you have been lying about? Is that what you have told the Venkys? That the reason that their ownership has been an unmitigated disaster is because of racism, not the truly terrible advice and management from the obvious parasites. Is "this dark forces" thing a big lie about racism which is keeping this charade going?
You want people to show their evidence, so you need to stop being a hypocrite yourself, and name your vultures and dark forces. Or are you going to be exactly like Steve Kean and Jermone Anderson, where something totally unspecific is mentioned, but absolutely nothing follows it up in the way of evidence or even details?
Who are these dark forces blue blooded? Why won't you even say who they are?
10:58am Sun 8 Jul 12
bring back the good old days says...
For a start lets ditch this 'true support' nonesense.
Those who go and a watch a football team are just supporters, full stop.
Some may be more passionate than others, but so what.
I myself have not 'supported' BRFC all of last season because I do not care for Venkys at my club, and SK as 'so called' manager.
Being a paying customer (up to end of 10/11), it is my right to choose whether to attend or not.
I do not see the club I supported as BRFC at present, I see them as Venkys FC. So I prefer to consider myself as a non supporter of VFC.
If others decide they are still BRFC and they can stomach paying to attend them whatever, fine good luck to them. I cannot, as they are an insult to my integrity and intelligence.
If and when Vekys 'mend their ways' and start to behave decently, I may re-consider.
10:59am Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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You commented " because you think they get nothing from away ticket sales..... come on"
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It's been my understanding that, for many years now, the home club kept ALL gate receipts.
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This was because the big clubs, ManU etc, who could generate the big gates wanted to keep that revenue and not share receipts with the visiting club. To my knowledge this is still the case.
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If it changed, when did it? Just like to know.
11:06am Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Paranoid...
dark forces - already answered.
Its those who seem to revel in the idea of the conspiracies and are keen for them to be true. As for the rest of my post you've answered my questions with questions and accusations of personal references, so I'll wait for a sane comment.
11:11am Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
Whether fans attend doesn't make a difference to whether they are true supporters or not. We are all still exactly the same, and that's Rovers fans. Those attending are doing what they think is right, and those not the same. We are still all fans together.
Steve Kean wants division between fans. It's now his best case scenario for any kind of support.
If you don't like Steve Kean, then don't fall into his trap. You are acting exactly like he wants you to act. You are being a moron if you continue to do so.
Don't hold anything against fans who want to attend. They aren't ever the enemy. Don't forget that.
11:15am Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
You mentioned these dark forces, not anyone else, only an hour ago too, so why won't you now say who these dark forces are when asked for details?
Are they the same as the vultures incidentally, or are those someone different? If so who are they too?
11:19am Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
Saying there are "dark forces" but providing zero detail makes you just sound exactly like them.
11:22am Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
You will find few insults by those who just want to continue supporting the team and are not afraid to admit it. in fact we are the ones who keep saying we're all fans with differing opinions, but are getting abuse for being naive and sheeps.
11:25am Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
"Seems like the dark forces at play here are not just the owners kean and agents.
"Why are the action group so keen to criminalise Venkys? The latest fire story shows a very clear intent to discredit the management, whereby clearly it would have been the then stadium manager that would have been held to account."
"The vultures appear to have been circling the good ship Ewood ever since it was purchased by Venky's"
"maybe there are other coyotes also circling licking their lips at the prospect of an easy gain whilst the kill appears to be wounded..."
I only want to know as they sound exactly like the "dark forces" that Steve Kean and Jerome Anderson keep going on about. No-one else knows who they are, but you seem to.
Who do you mean specifically blueblooded when you say the things above?
11:26am Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
11:26am Sun 8 Jul 12
Strogbow says...
If by staying away you and your chums bring down Venkys and Kean then great, in the mean time me and my chums will still be watching BRFC havin a pint and a laugh at you stay away Goon (true supporter).
11:29am Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
11:36am Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Everyone who is insulting those buying tickets trying to put them off disingenuously and those who wish for the conspiracy theories to be true to the point of manifesting their theories onto others as fact. The fire story is probably the best example of this where it seems from the action group article, its already a foregone conclusion that foul play was involved.
Does that not disturb you?
Clear enough?
11:37am Sun 8 Jul 12
HIW Rob says...
The most obvious way to prove Steve Kean wrong is yet again with his own words
"When we get to the level we want to get to, we are signing players who can play at that level.
“It is not just players who can get you there, it is players who have already done well there.
Danny Murphy - OK - But already 35
Leon Best - 10 Games PL Exp ??
Gomes - None and 35
Couple of unknown Portuguese - No PL Experience
Lies, Lies, Lies
11:45am Sun 8 Jul 12
banned again phil.m says...
11:46am Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Are you for real?
Just on this article, do you mind pointing to how many posts by renewers that are insulting?
or would providing evidence be too beneath you?
11:49am Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
11:58am Sun 8 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
“It is not just players who can get you there, it is players who have already done well there.
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As I said earlier, Mr Kean. We already had those players when you came. YOU got rid of them and we were relegated.
12:05pm Sun 8 Jul 12
RUinsane says...
12:13pm Sun 8 Jul 12
RUinsane says...
12:13pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
I forgot to thank you the other day for defending me as not being the leader of the EDL incidentally. Cheers for that.
12:16pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
As I recall everyone moaned about things like scalding hot bovril to blind referees and from players getting too much money and current managers being rubbish. A lot has changed - but a lot stays the same.
The only time before now that fans passion was really roused by the club was after the 60 cup final when the ticket distribution was terrible and many long standing and loyal Rovers fans missed the final cos they couldn't get a ticket. A lot of those fans vowed never to set foot on Ewood again and a lot (probably 3 to 4k IMO) never came back. That loss was from crowds that were usually in the mid to high 30,000's but it was still a loss for a small town team like the Rovers. We cannot afford to lose that number of fans again.
The 60 cup final fiasco became one of the main talking points for the next 25 or 30 years in every pub in Blackburn and district at least until Jack Walker came into the club. The number of times I got into arguments and heated discussions in tap rooms and snooker rooms all over the town with older blokes who could only spout the same old rubbish about not going since 1960...even at times when we had a decent side down at Ewood and were playing good football with a manager everyone liked, well these blokes seemed to bide their time and then revel in it when we lost or just missed out on promotion and they really got the digs in when we got relegated on more than one occasion!
I really wouldn't like to see another split like that between Rovers fans as I feel that would go on for years and years also and cause much bitterness among people who are really just loyal Rovers supporters...whateve
r their views.
Some fans will choose to stay away (but still support the team) and some will choose to go on and watch support the team...but we are all still fans and we need to remember that.
I have no idea how all this will end - but end it must and soon now. Almost every fan is agreed that Kean is the center of everyone's angst and anger and frustration and it would seem easy to get most people back onside (mostly) by the owners getting rid of him. Just hope that common sense prevails over there in Pune and that we can all support our club together again.
Be nice just to have to moan about the Bovril and the Ref again...
12:23pm Sun 8 Jul 12
RUinsane says...
1:24pm Sun 8 Jul 12
McClaret says...
1:25pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
I love Marmite on beans on toast, but I know a bloke out here who really loves the stuff and travels miles across France to get a jar (its a rare commodity out here) but though I really like it - I can live without it. Cant live without the Rovers though.
1:36pm Sun 8 Jul 12
champs95 says...
1:48pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
For those who will boycott cos of Kean and Venkys then I would say around 3k and maybe 3k initially who wont go cos its not premiership football but might if we start doing well...
So for the first home match v Hull on a wednesday night then I guestimate' a crowd of around 15k Rovers fans and maybe 500 from Hull so around the 16k mark total.
I accounted for 20k Rovers fans who I think are true fans and the other 2 or 3k are what I would call 'floaters' who may or may not come depending on lots of other factors.
1:53pm Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
1:36pm Sun 8 Jul 12
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Bang on the money I say.
1:55pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Vikings Rover says...
My belief is that Blackburn Rovers future is now under threat more than at any other time in their illustrious history. Pretty ironic really when BRFC are now owned by their wealthiest owners ever.
So what best can I do to show my strength of feeling to the owners about their cavalier behaviour which is damaging our football club?
My conclusion is despite missing my friends and my Rover's 'fix' I can do nothing better than to stay away until the owner's change their ways or sell up and leave . . . . and that is exactly what I intend to do.
No problem with anyone who disagrees !!
R.T.I.D.
1:57pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...
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But enough fans standing together on this will bring Kean down which is the first requirement for mosr before we can move forward again.
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Kean Never!
2:08pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...
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But I think you are optimistic if only 4 or 5K ST's are sold so it could be even worse! Those fans will not then pay match day prices having decided to not buy an ST because of Kean? Approx Two thirds empty I reckon.
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Hull will bring a few more though!
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KEAN - NEVER!
2:09pm Sun 8 Jul 12
makaveli96 says...
2:10pm Sun 8 Jul 12
smellthecoffee says...
63w
2:14pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Love Rovers Hate Venkys says...
2:14pm Sun 8 Jul 12
smellthecoffee says...
2:17pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
I have not met nor talked to ANY Rovers fan that would back Kean in any sense of the word.
The club is about much much more than Kean and I think that every person that chooses to attend understands that. Just not sure that those Rovers fans that choose not to attend understand that also.
As for Rovers PR - well who gives a monkeys about that apart from our friends up the M65? We have had 18 months or more of the rubbish PR from Ewood and learnt to ignore it a long time ago. Also more importantly the general football media and fans everywhere know what a joke the PR has been and learnt like most of us not to believe a word of it.
Ignore the Kean and support the team.....!
2:21pm Sun 8 Jul 12
eddie the eagle says...
It must have an answer but it is not anobvios one and is not forthcoming,would you like to try Shebby.
2:21pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
So that's 12k for LRHV
16k for me
8k for Champs 95
and 6 men and a dog for Mr Morst
any advance on that?
2:22pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
2:54pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
BTW what is the result of the Pedro Jury on the attendance at the first home game v Hull? How can I run a book if you all forget to place your bets....
3:10pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
3:16pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Accy Phil says...
3:20pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Plasticbertrand says...
3:38pm Sun 8 Jul 12
MxMave says...
Rovers are going nowhere with Kean in charge and everyone can see that, even Venkys.
3:40pm Sun 8 Jul 12
merlinrabbit says...
3:50pm Sun 8 Jul 12
merlinrabbit says...
3:50pm Sun 8 Jul 12
givet82 says...
4:01pm Sun 8 Jul 12
guiderover says...
4:11pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
4:20pm Sun 8 Jul 12
unclejacklegend says...
13,750 vs hull
4:31pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Only1Garner says...
I have written 4 times to Agnew, once to Shebby and once to Derek Shaw asking that exact question, among others. All I got was one letter from Shaw saying everyone at Ewood is dissapointed with relegation, he asked me to reconsider by boycott of support and said the owners where right behind the manager and have supported him full in the transfer market. I have written back and told him that by supporting Kean they are sticking 2 fingers up to 90%+ of the supporters.
4:39pm Sun 8 Jul 12
mellorb&w says...
4:41pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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A tad optimistic was that. The level of feeling against Kean and all is immense. I am aware of some that have renewed, but the ones I know who haven't is almost alarming. These are, or were, dedicated fans that made me look like a part-timer. They will be back, but they will choose when.
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BTW Frenchie, did you follow Le Tour today? Terrific win for the French, the coach was amazing!!! Watch if you can.
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Allez Les Bleus!
4:51pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
5:18pm Sun 8 Jul 12
vicn1956 says...
This IS another 1960 moment. If you'd said to me 3 yeas ago I would stop going down to Ewood I wouldn have beieved you. But I WON'T be there next season untl kean goes and venkys at last start to run it corectly. Even then I have my doubts. Having to watch the rubbish on offer, the constant LIES, the dismantling of a premier team, being treated like DIRT in the Darwen End etc.etc.etc. I won't give them any more of my money or legitimise them with my presence. Yes it will hurt but do you stand by and do nothing?
5:25pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
And yes my 16k is optimistic but then why live life with your glass half empty - much better to have it half full (or full) with a nice st Emilion red.
5:32pm Sun 8 Jul 12
britguy says...
6:03pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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Not pessimistic about attendances, more realistic actually.
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I'm not the glass half-empty person, if I was I wouldn't be at Old Trafford on Tuesday for the ODI!
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You might try Chilean wines, Santa Alvara (if you can get) and Altitude, for a change. Cabernet Sauvignon's are fantastic value. A pint of Thwaites Wainwright before a meal, bottle of Chilean, a tray of pie, chips, peas and gravy!
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Hey, full glass lol!!!
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Next time you're home. Try the Assheton Arms at Downham (was there last night), sister pub of Oyster & Otter at Fenni. Gorgeous fish. The Neve family owners are THE people who run fishing out of Fleetwood and their fish is AWESOME.
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Keep the faith.
6:24pm Sun 8 Jul 12
baldie says...
Was thinking earlier,as people keep bringing up the "real" supporter debate,ask yourselves this question-
Do you ,100% ,want Rovers to win at Ipswich?
6:48pm Sun 8 Jul 12
1rover says...
6:57pm Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
7:19pm Sun 8 Jul 12
whittaker0 says...
7:25pm Sun 8 Jul 12
whittaker0 says...
7:41pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
7:47pm Sun 8 Jul 12
RUinsane says...
7:48pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
Glad to hear your glass is full, long may it stay that way!
Allez les Bleus
8:00pm Sun 8 Jul 12
French Rover says...
16k for me (yes I know its optimistic)
13,750k for UncleJackLegend (very precise is UJL)
13k for Baldie
12k for LRHV and Mr Eagle and Givet82 (do they know something?)
7-8K spreadbet for BlueSkies
8k for Champs 95
and 6 men and a dog with three legs for Mr Morst
8:28pm Sun 8 Jul 12
baldie says...
8:32pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Love Rovers Hate Venkys says...
8:33pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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You sound like Fickle Fan to me, but don't expect a response lol!
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(being positive yeh?)
8:36pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Love Rovers Hate Venkys says...
8:37pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Love Rovers Hate Venkys says...
8:43pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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Mr Kean....
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make me eat my words (y'know, the ones where I slag you off)
8:47pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Rover Pete says...
The best he can hope for with Venky's and his limited ability is that he keeps his job again at the end of this season when we go down to League 1. There is no hope when it is sell anybody worth a few pounds and take on old players for free.
8:52pm Sun 8 Jul 12
givet82 says...
9:02pm Sun 8 Jul 12
rarubbish says...
9:02pm Sun 8 Jul 12
gleechy says...
None, he has set his stall out as the untouchable provocateur.
His statements are not about what he is about to do but more about saying look what power I have, I can say this and it will be printed. I can say this because the fans will hate it, but nobody can say it's a lie, because it hasn't failed yet, and inevitably when it does, he is onto the next shocker, and it's more about what unbelieveable success he will be bringing the club, and again it never happens.
Nobody has brought him to account for all his failings, and this is why he continues unashamedly.
With his never admit defeat attitude he even had a large proportion of opposing fans saying he was being badly treated by his own fans, and he acted with dignity, how on earth did he turn that one round?
He is a very dangerous person with far too much power, and on previous form will say or do anything to promote himself, he has to go into politics.
It says a lot about the people who have recently gained employment under him at Ewood, only time will truely tell, but it looks very very bleak.
Where is this slimeball taking the club?
9:04pm Sun 8 Jul 12
rarubbish says...
9:10pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
10:17pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner says...
11:14pm Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
For the purposes of the decent posters on here, we have amongst us a charlatan and a traitor who revels in using multiple logins and stirring up hatred amongst users. A number of posters recently have suffered abuse, but I have spotted a pattern in the abusers methods.
Abuse poster, back up abuse by posting as another abuser, diffuse abuse towards oneself by engaging in idle chat with other posters.
Don't take my word for it, the next time you get abused, watch for the trend. Use of words to abuse you like "traitor, division, agnew, steve" seem to be his MO. Unfortunately this morning he tripped himself up... didnt you Mr Multiple logins..?
Paranoia? maybe.. just watch for the tell-take signs that gets him riled up the minute you say anything positive..ssshh.. he may be a dingle.
11:16pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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You're a keyboard bully.
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Am not quite sure where people like you get their kicks from, but you sound like a sicko to me......
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Scary. In fact I'm reporting your post.
11:33pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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Total and utter nutjob!
11:36pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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The LT will confirm I have no multiple logins.
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You are SAD!
11:45pm Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
The rest of us just want to comment on the articles and post any rumours/news we hear and discuss them like adults.
11:49pm Sun 8 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
They go crying to the teacher. LT watch for the MAC addresses of these complainers btw.
11:49pm Sun 8 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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Time to get a life.
12:06am Mon 9 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Not nice when your deception is exposed is it? Whats the matter? Not enough fake logins to get your back, Jack?
Its simple really. Stop the bickering and bullying, Keans not going anywhere soon and the genuine posters on here who are entitled to their opinion aren't either - Boycott or not. So get used to it and stop goading and baiting like its a clever thing to do with your fake id's and get on with your life. Its too short as it is.
Peace.
ps: Not so breaking.. Goodwillie to to leave Blackburn..
Night all.
12:20am Mon 9 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
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Posters like Blueblooded and Ficklefan are on here solely to try to break the spirit of BRFC fans.
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The rhetoric toward me this evening has quite simply, shocked me (from Blueblooded). I have found his posts offensive and aggressive.
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I cannot believe the words expressed by this poster are from a true BRFC fan.
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I will continue to express my thoughts on this site and not be bullied. If this is what BRFC is having to do to resort to influence opinion then................
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12:31am Mon 9 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Key words and terms:
"brfc posting" (as if they care) and "divide the fans"
watch for the others.. its quite clear when you start picking up on them.
Tomorrow, a "valiant poster" (or fake profile) will leap to his defense and likely use the other key words.. Agnew, Steve.. working for Venkys.. there not much in the MO, but it has been effective to get quite a few of us banned.
12:38am Mon 9 Jul 12
blueblooded says...
Five hours or so later, I see your polite re-post x2 and respond to it by letting it drop and posting:
"well you obviously seem to know more about this than I do, so be it."
But you continue to bait me as its not enough for you is it, accusing me of evading the question and sounding like fickle fan?
Do yourself a favour, that hole? Stop digging.
N
2:31am Mon 9 Jul 12
Matt Newcastle says...
No integrity whatsoever.
Yes I will hold a great deal against those who wish to attend.
No moral integrity or fortitude whatsoever.
Befriending an enemy for a cheap season ticket
Words fail me.
4:56am Mon 9 Jul 12
Roverthere says...
Yes a personal choice. To continue to pay for the above or wait until the club appologises and makes amends for the diabolical situation it created. I don't see much of that so far.
My choice is to not renew my ST or visit Ewood until I am coinvinced things have changed.
5:27am Mon 9 Jul 12
TrueBlue (Formerly GetRealUIdiot) says...
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Sorry wanted to be the valiant poster!
6:24am Mon 9 Jul 12
banned again phil.m says...
6:25am Mon 9 Jul 12
banned again phil.m says...
7:19am Mon 9 Jul 12
French Rover says...
7:44am Mon 9 Jul 12
bring back the good old days says...
t of regret or apology from them whatsoever.
I am absolutely sure that at least 90 - 95% of the support, be them stay away or stay put, are sure the situation has been caused entirely by Venkys and Kean in an almost destructive manner.
Naivety will have paid a large part, but it is now over 18 months down the line, and all the informed advice offered has been beligerently shunned.
For me that hinges toward constructive destruction, intentional or otherwise makes no odds.
I am of the view that the money now being spent is relatively small in comparison to the money taken in, even when taking account of the massive drop in ticket sales, and moreso TV revenue.
It is when the parachute money dries up that the whole issue will come to a head.
But, I seriously suspect that Venkys will be gone by then, so they are not too concerned over that 'future'.
IF, they actually wake up to all this and amend their ways sharpish, it is remotely possible that some bridges can be rebuilt.
8:38am Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
Preparing for the Premiership? Shouldn't he have been doing that last Summer, when we were actually still in it?
I am not going to list his faux-pas, there are too many, but he does set himself up doesn't he?
8:52am Mon 9 Jul 12
bypass06 says...
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Goodwillie going?
9:00am Mon 9 Jul 12
bburnrover says...
I suppose if we retain everyone except Hoilett we will have one of the better squads but I cannot see Givet,N'Zonzi and Dann wanting to stay with us.
9:24am Mon 9 Jul 12
A Darener says...
..We must learn from mistakes. I have never read such utter drivel in my life. Who is this bloke? Who is he? An absolute clown.
To learn from your mistakes you must first correct them SACKING KEAN would be a start.
Then we may start to progress.
Quote from Mr Agnew...
" I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that" ???????????????
What the ???? Send for the men in white coats quick he's having a breakdown. What a load of gobble de gook. For goodness sake get rid of the lot of them they haven't a clue what they are saying or doing!!!!!
9:26am Mon 9 Jul 12
stick to football says...
He does not deserve the loyal support of Rovers fans - not that he has it after 18 months of pergutory- football poor results poor = Manager worse than poor.
He is probably already writing down his excuses for next seasons Press conferences ( if anyone is there) - forget about the Premiership until you get us there then maybe you will have something to talk about .
Still waiting for the Manager to show INTEGRITY and state now that if after 10 games Rovers are not a top ten side he will RESIGN
9:28am Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
bypass06 wrote: This is getting ridiculous now."The claims made by our source, that the Stadium Manager John Newsham, who is no longer with the club and his team had been following orders from above to prioritise preventing protests, ahead of supporter safety is of massive concern to us, as an FSF affiliated supporters group." Since Venkys weren't even at the match and Kean was busy "working" his magic to get us relegated as was his apparent gameplan, who may I ask would be responsible if not the stadium manager? Maybe Newsham was fired for his negligence?Maybe, but hiring a chauffeur who can look after himself in his place hardly inspires confidence, does it?
Those of you with longer memories may recall mismanagement of football stadia has not worked well.
Who else has been appointed this Summer?
Quite a few, although three of them have been Paul Agnew. Putting bums on seats does not constitute putting a structure in place.
Apart from the worrying appointment of 7th Dan Parker (T'bird fans will know who I mean), the owners have also appointed a Malaysian football pundit. "Giggs should play centre half, Gerrard right back and what does Messi do apart from score the goals?"; I don't know if he did actually come out with these gems but it would not surprise me. I also thought his reference to Ronnie Clayton's (RIP) book was a lttle distasteful, at best. Mentioning Ronnie's wife being in tears when she heard him wax lyrical about the influence it had on him was particularly insensitive.
People have said on here at least they are communicating but I sense a lot more embarrassing rubbish coming from our Global Advisor.
WTF is that, by the way? And what do we need to be globally advised about?
He was of course an existing Venky's employee so not much chance of him having any real influence.
So apart from already appointing the bib and cones man as team "boss" and the manager of a S American KFC as our man in Rio when it comes to spotting players, who else have we got?
Paul Agnew; from arranging the chairs in the press room, briefly to PR man and a similarly short stay as Operations Manager up to whatever the heck his latest title is. He'll be president of the USA at this rate. Does he know what he is doing? Why should he? They say you do well at a job and get promoted until you hit a position where you are useless; his meteoric rise has hardly given anyone the chance to see if he is worthy of any promotion at all.
Of course, being one of Kean's supporters does show an astute appreciation of which side his bread is buttered.
Mr Shaw; generally accepted as one of the major factors in PNE's fall from grace. Hardly a glowing reference for someone who is now running what is generally accepted as a bigger club - Dingles and PNE fans may disagree but that’s a fact of life.
I don't know anything about Mr Valentine, but the secretary has no responsibility beyond making sure all the paper is correctly shuffled.
And the latest gem; Colin Hendry, should it come to pass.
A playing hero but a lot of very murky water has passed under the bridge since then. Even before that he didn't seem very "Rovers through and through" when he downed tools to get himself a move to Rangers. As a coach and manager he has been an unmitigated disaster, so why does anyone think his appointment would be a good thing?
And as sorry as I would be for anyone who has gone through the personal trauma he has, that does not excuse what has happened since. A lot of people have lost loved ones but not many have stooped to levels he has.
So, inexperienced, under qualified, ignorant and already proven to be just plain useless. Apply to each as appropriate.
Planning for the Premiership? Whilst I would love it to be true, I do not hold out much hope.
9:42am Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
9:46am Mon 9 Jul 12
Bredrin says...
Disclaimer : everything perceivable
9:49am Mon 9 Jul 12
French Rover says...
Don't think most people would really disagree with you mr. whappen, but all the opinions you detailed about the managemnet team are a bit unneccesary.
You could 'disect' a lot of companies in and out of football and find exactly the same things - a frightened workplace. A place where there are people who are in positions they should not be in because they are not capable and do not have the right experience. (maybe they are being given the chance to prove themselves)
People who have been promoted above their level maybe because they are 'agreeable' people who take the company line on all things but get things done without the someone having to stand over them.
People who will do or say almost anything in favour of the company in order to keep their jobs and pay the mortgage etc instead of risking the all too real threat of being sacked. (I have known a lot of good and honest people in that position).
All that is quite commonplace in lots of companies and yet it doesn't make the management team bad people.
It is the owners of the company that are the bad people for creating and encouraging such a poor work environment for their employees in the first place.
When I say the people responsible then of course I mean the Venky family and their main representative across here - Steve Kean.
These are the people responsible for everything bad that has happened in the last 18 months or so and the really bad thing about it all is that the whole world had told them that - and yet still they seem to refuse to make any of the major changes to the club that would lift the atmosphere and make Ewood a decent place to work and to watch football in again.
I really don't think attacking the still quite new club management team really helps anyone.
9:53am Mon 9 Jul 12
Gaz M says...
9:54am Mon 9 Jul 12
thresholdweller says...
9:57am Mon 9 Jul 12
idlewally says...
Sorry Steve but sounds like you wanted to play at this level i take it back your a top notch manager after all you met your targets in your 1st full season
10:04am Mon 9 Jul 12
Hippocroccapig says...
What, he's renewed his Sky Sports subscription then?
10:11am Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
Everyone to their own.
All these arguments about who is the "truer" supporters and the insults included only serve to divide the supporters rather than them being allowed to express an opinion.
Is a twenty year old who has watched Rovers since he was five more or less of a "true fan" than a sixty year old who has supported them for 45 years?
It's the same proportion of their lives, but one has been going longer whilst the other started earlier.
It's a fatuous argument. No one has any control over when they are born, for heaven's sake. In the same way, circumstances dictate when you start. I used to play football (badly, I'll admit) but that's what you're supposed to do whilst you can aren't you?
When I stopped, I went home and away for about ten years until ever growing credit card bills made me make a decision only to go away occasionally.
I do not feel any less a Rovers supporter because of it.
Personally, I am dismayed at what has gone on and feel increasingly helpless in doing anything about it, not that I ever could; it's just my perception of them having no regard for their customers.
I have therefore decided not to go at all. I cannot bring myself to support such a regime, financially or otherwise.
10:14am Mon 9 Jul 12
IrishRover3 says...
10:34am Mon 9 Jul 12
French Rover says...
And every supporter is needed no matter how long they have been a fan. In fact how long is totally irrelevant. A fan is a fan is a fan...and fans should be appreciated - but that doesn't happen at a lot of clubs these days.
10:54am Mon 9 Jul 12
Jack Herer says...
The only other username I have for this site is Finger Bang, but I haven't used it for years. I didn't get banned, I just used it for years and years before swapping to Jack Herer.
Apologies if anyone has been around for longer, but the only person I remember being here all this time is "Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!" Hi Morst, it's Finger Bang, apologies for not saying it was me sooner.
Me and Morst used to have terrible argy bargies over John Williams. I used to defend John venomously, but Morst used to say he should use his head and drop ticket prices. Do you know what though? Morst was right and John Williams realised it, and that's when the first reduction of season ticket prices happened all those years ago. It was the good old days obviously when all we had to get worked up about was the price of season tickets!
How did you know before everyone else that Goodwillie was leaving blueblooded? That other user Arglus, who has mysteriously disappeared now, he used to have the info first too. Way before anyone else in fact. Exactly like you do.
It means you are clearly well connected to the current strange regime at Rovers. There can be absolutely no doubt about that.
This is double good news if you see everyone as me, and therefore me as your all encompassing enemy somehow, because it means I am close to the truth about your "dark forces" racism lie.
Is that what's been keeping you in a job all this time Steve; a continued lie that the Venkys reign at Ewood has been a disaster because of racism? Whereas we all actually know it is complete incompetence from the manager and his shady advisers which is the real reason for the truly shocking state Rovers is in.
11:08am Mon 9 Jul 12
A Darener says...
ee entirely with you, BUT!
"Is a twenty year old who has watched Rovers since he was five more or less of a "true fan" than a sixty year old who has supported them for 45 years?
It's the same proportion of their lives, but one has been going longer whilst the other started earlier."
The sixty year old has been through the mill with the Rovers
1 Div/2 div/3rd div and back up. Now downwards again.
The 20 year old has only seen the relatively good times.
But we must all stick together, don't let those people who are trying to divide us win.
11:08am Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
I am merely expressing my personal concerns based on their employment history, their apparent suitability (or lack of) and the manner in which they have achieved their positions within the club.
"People who have been promoted above their level maybe because they are 'agreeable' people who take the company line on all things but get things done without the someone having to stand over them.
People who will do or say almost anything in favour of the company in order to keep their jobs and pay the mortgage etc instead of risking the all too real threat of being sacked. (I have known a lot of good and honest people in that position).
All that is quite commonplace in lots of companies and yet it doesn't make the management team bad people".
I would expect nothing less than the employees of the club be consistent, whatever the party line, may be.
A lot of companies doubtless have a "frightened" workforce which feels obliged to keep on the good side of their employer to keep their job. Doesn't make it right or the best way a company, or in this case a football club, should decide on its recruitment. I work in an office and am well aware there is brown nosing a plenty going on. I would not be stupid enough to call my superior an idiot, not that I would ever have any reason to of course, no siree (just in case they’re reading this). If that makes me one of them, so be it. Of course we all have bills to pay - that is, as you suggest, life.
However, the way Kean has clung on to his job without too much effort suggests redundancy is not an issue for him or, by association, those appointed on what would appear to be his say so.
My main point is, most of these people have NOT “got things done” and there is no suggestion they are (all) personally bad people intended.
11:16am Mon 9 Jul 12
MatthewCA says...
Can any one update how may players stay back in rovers for the traning and match. Confirm rovers players for this season.
11:25am Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
They have not seen as much but they have now seen us relegated twice.
After experiencing winning the PL or even just the League Cup, is Rovers' fall from grace not greater for the younger fan?
11:27am Mon 9 Jul 12
Roverthere says...
11:32am Mon 9 Jul 12
Roverthere says...
11:35am Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
I didn't quite get the gist of the questions though. Is he asking fans to recommend players again?
At least he does acknowledge there is going to be some rubbish.
12:02pm Mon 9 Jul 12
lowelife says...
He has not earned support, he is only worthy of derision because he won't accept it is him, and hm alone, who was incompetent enough to see Rovers relegated.
He is not showing great heart (an unusual omment in repect of SK), he is a desperate man, blindly clinging to a position that 99.% of fan find intolerable. He hd a fresh start when he was appointed he had a fresh start last season when we escaedrelegation by the skin of our teeth. How many fresh startd you suggest he is granted?
Wake up; the man is useless.
12:20pm Mon 9 Jul 12
Roy Race says...
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I wish it was so easy - but when he is the manager from The Baldrick School of planning how can you say that?
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To me support at present is to do anything possible to get this guy to leave and that means no attendance for our family until he goes. I can't see how other fans can see it any other way at present but its their choice.
12:25pm Mon 9 Jul 12
Whitehall Rover says...
12:33pm Mon 9 Jul 12
whappen says...
I was quoting from FR by the way, in case you thought it was me defending the new recruits.
12:53pm Mon 9 Jul 12
RUinsane says...
If a manager signs a player and then sells him 12 months later, he should be sacked for that decision alone.
Darth Vader is lurking in the background, do you feel it?
1:09pm Mon 9 Jul 12
IrishRover3 says...
1:47pm Mon 9 Jul 12
BlueSkies says...
4:55pm Mon 9 Jul 12
AndyW says...
Seriously, there is a better chance of us going down again than being promoted under Weaselboy.
5:33pm Mon 9 Jul 12
French Rover says...
If they didn't sack Kean after getting us relegated why would they sack him now for a downturn in attendance? Wish I knew a way to get him out (now) but it's the strangest situation I ever saw at any football club.
7:17pm Mon 9 Jul 12
who deany says...
7:52pm Mon 9 Jul 12
god Im bored says...
you said you werent preparing for the championship when you were in the Premier league....that failed didnt it.
You dont know what you are doing!
2:31am Tue 10 Jul 12
globetrot says...
2:32am Tue 10 Jul 12
globetrot says...
2:30pm Tue 10 Jul 12
he6rt6gr6m says...
9:09am Wed 11 Jul 12
Harwoodstblue says...
12:49pm Wed 11 Jul 12
AndyW says...
The way in which Kean has treated this club and our fans (with absolute contempt and gross incompetence), the only way anything will improve at Rovers is when he's finally shown the door.
Kean will NEVER get the support of the Rovers fans now.
Too much water has flowed under this bridge.
1:00pm Wed 11 Jul 12
A Darener says...