Kean: I'll win over Blackburn Rovers fans with new-look team

DEFIANT Boss Steve Kean

DEFIANT Boss Steve Kean

First published in Sport Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Sports reporter

STEVE Kean has insisted that Blackburn Rovers’ new look team will soon start to ease fans’ concerns as he prepares to hand debuts to three players at Fulham tomorrow.

Rovers have lost their opening three games of the Premier League season and Kean’s own position as boss has become a subject of debate once more after a number of supporters opted to send an open letter to owners Venky’s to call for a change of manager.

A YouGov survey has also revealed this week that 81 per cent of Rovers supporters polled would like the club to have a new boss.

But Kean says Venky’s remained fully behind him when he visited India last week and believes any fans currently worried will change their minds once they see his new signings in action.

Scott Dann, Yakubu and Simon Vukcevic are all in contention to make their debuts at Craven Cottage in tomorrow’s 4pm kick-off, with Kean set to make a decision over whether to include them from the start or introduce some from the bench.

Radosav Petrovic and David Goodwillie are also pushing for starts after largely being used as substitutes in their first few games since joining Rovers.

“I hope the fans will see a little taste of things,” Kean said of tomorrow’s game at Fulham, where he previously spent eight years in the club’s backroom staff.

“A few weeks ago when we played in the Carling Cup I think we had a glimpse of the future, we had quite a young team that played.

“And in the Everton game we were controlling that game. Now they’ll see some fresh faces coming in.

“To get somebody like Scott Dann and Yakubu with his goalscoring record, together with the other lads we got in earlier on in the window, I’m sure when the fans see them out there and performing for the club they’ll be happy with what they see.

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“I can understand people’s frustrations with results.

"We’re three games in and we don’t have any points on the board.

“I’m frustrated myself that we’ve not got at least four points.

“But we’ve now got our squad. Now I think our season certainly starts but that’s not because we’ve not got any points, that’s because this is our group and our group is a strong group.

“I honestly think the squad’s stronger than it was last year.”

Kean visited Venky’s in Pune for his latest monthly meeting last week but may travel less frequently now, with the club’s owners set to have greater representation at matches - starting with forthcoming home games against Arsenal and Leyton Orient - after buying Gary Neville’s house near Bolton.

Speaking about last week’s meeting, Kean said: “We had a good conversation. We looked back on the list that I had given them from the end of last season.

“I was happy with the backing I got and the amount of players.

"Certainly on deadline day to go and spend in excess of £10m shows the backing I had from the owners.

“Now I might go (to India) a little bit less because I think the owners are going to come over now and see a bit more of the home games.

“I know some of them will be here for the Arsenal game and the Leyton Orient game.

“I think they always wanted to come over but now they’ve got a property that they’ve bought, that’s all finished and they’re ready to be here and they’ll certainly be at most of the home games.”

A number of fans from an internet message board grouped together to express their concerns to Venky’s over the club’s direction via an open letter, while 73 of 90 supporters polled in a national YouGov survey wanted a change of boss.

Asked about the open letter, Kean said: “It doesn’t make me feel bad at all, I’ve got a great relationship with the owners.

“I think if you actually speak with the fans, the way we’re playing I don’t think we could have done too much more in the last game.

“I think maybe there’s a minority of the fans who are frustrated.

“The top half is certainly achievable. One win takes you halfway up the table.”

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8:06am Sat 10 Sep 11

owd nick says...

While I share a lot of concerns over our start to the season the "open letter" is ill conceived at best, arrogant and selfish at worst.
It does nothing more than heap yet more pressure on an inexperienced manager and the players at a time when they need our support more than ever.
The fault lies with Venky's not Kean, they have put him in place, promised support, yet simply failed to deliver, because they didn't understand what they were doing, and probably still don't.
So they have a knee jerk reaction to an "open letter" and replace Kean with another manager, do you think for one single minute things will change?
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LOL!!!
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Any new manager coming in will want money to bring his own players in, patently there isn't the money available that Venky's promised.
With the fixtures coming up the Club need our support more than every, any distractions however well meaning, that affect the players confidence over the coming weeks will do irreparable damage to the Club, that will make the writers of the "open letter" and for that matter any potential demonstrators at the Arsenal match, just as responsible as Venky's should our Club be relegated at the end of the season.
While I share a lot of concerns over our start to the season the "open letter" is ill conceived at best, arrogant and selfish at worst. It does nothing more than heap yet more pressure on an inexperienced manager and the players at a time when they need our support more than ever. The fault lies with Venky's not Kean, they have put him in place, promised support, yet simply failed to deliver, because they didn't understand what they were doing, and probably still don't. So they have a knee jerk reaction to an "open letter" and replace Kean with another manager, do you think for one single minute things will change? . LOL!!! . Any new manager coming in will want money to bring his own players in, patently there isn't the money available that Venky's promised. With the fixtures coming up the Club need our support more than every, any distractions however well meaning, that affect the players confidence over the coming weeks will do irreparable damage to the Club, that will make the writers of the "open letter" and for that matter any potential demonstrators at the Arsenal match, just as responsible as Venky's should our Club be relegated at the end of the season. owd nick
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8:22am Sat 10 Sep 11

J.C - Rishton says...

owd nick wrote:
While I share a lot of concerns over our start to the season the "open letter" is ill conceived at best, arrogant and selfish at worst.
It does nothing more than heap yet more pressure on an inexperienced manager and the players at a time when they need our support more than ever.
The fault lies with Venky's not Kean, they have put him in place, promised support, yet simply failed to deliver, because they didn't understand what they were doing, and probably still don't.
So they have a knee jerk reaction to an "open letter" and replace Kean with another manager, do you think for one single minute things will change?
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LOL!!!
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Any new manager coming in will want money to bring his own players in, patently there isn't the money available that Venky's promised.
With the fixtures coming up the Club need our support more than every, any distractions however well meaning, that affect the players confidence over the coming weeks will do irreparable damage to the Club, that will make the writers of the "open letter" and for that matter any potential demonstrators at the Arsenal match, just as responsible as Venky's should our Club be relegated at the end of the season.
Although you make some well reasoned points - I just don't get what you are saying.
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Are you trying to say that we should be stuck with SK forever - no matter what the results just because we have bought these players and a new manager will want to change them ??
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If so, surely this is just bonkers. EG - If you lose 8 straight games, things have to change, whether you want to or not - you simply can't keep doing the same (wrong) things and saying, oh well, can't change tack now, we've made our bed we have to lie in it - that is exactly the policy the WHU owners took last year and look where it got them
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Surely, part of being a good manager is to be able to spot a good player when you see one (eg if MH was appointed instead of SK, do you not think he would be able to tell that Formica, Godwillie, Rochina and Hoilett are good players ??).
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Do you not think he would add that extra to the team, steal organisation etc etc that ultimately would make us harder to beat and would yield more points over the long term - of course he would.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: While I share a lot of concerns over our start to the season the "open letter" is ill conceived at best, arrogant and selfish at worst. It does nothing more than heap yet more pressure on an inexperienced manager and the players at a time when they need our support more than ever. The fault lies with Venky's not Kean, they have put him in place, promised support, yet simply failed to deliver, because they didn't understand what they were doing, and probably still don't. So they have a knee jerk reaction to an "open letter" and replace Kean with another manager, do you think for one single minute things will change? . LOL!!! . Any new manager coming in will want money to bring his own players in, patently there isn't the money available that Venky's promised. With the fixtures coming up the Club need our support more than every, any distractions however well meaning, that affect the players confidence over the coming weeks will do irreparable damage to the Club, that will make the writers of the "open letter" and for that matter any potential demonstrators at the Arsenal match, just as responsible as Venky's should our Club be relegated at the end of the season.[/p][/quote]Although you make some well reasoned points - I just don't get what you are saying. . Are you trying to say that we should be stuck with SK forever - no matter what the results just because we have bought these players and a new manager will want to change them ?? . If so, surely this is just bonkers. EG - If you lose 8 straight games, things have to change, whether you want to or not - you simply can't keep doing the same (wrong) things and saying, oh well, can't change tack now, we've made our bed we have to lie in it - that is exactly the policy the WHU owners took last year and look where it got them . Surely, part of being a good manager is to be able to spot a good player when you see one (eg if MH was appointed instead of SK, do you not think he would be able to tell that Formica, Godwillie, Rochina and Hoilett are good players ??). . Do you not think he would add that extra to the team, steal organisation etc etc that ultimately would make us harder to beat and would yield more points over the long term - of course he would. J.C - Rishton
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8:31am Sat 10 Sep 11

lusorover says...

The timing of the letter which purports to represent a 'majority' of fans is illogical and will only further damage the Club's reputation. They complain that we have become a laughing stock and then give further ammunition to the media who are always happy to laugh at us.

I trust that Kean and the players are professional enough to be able to ignore it and get on with the job of reversing the desperate start to the season.

Fans who think that there was an easy way to achieve what the owners asked of Kean when they gave him the job have little understanding of football.

To expect free-flowing, exciting football from an ageing squad that had been comfortable with Sam's hoofball was a near-impossible task.

Had Kean persisted with Sam's tactics not only the owners but the very same fans who are making noise now would have been complaining then also.

As has been said many times Kean is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Now he has his own squad together and as he has reasonably accepted that he will be judged on results like any other manager.

I am no fan of Steve Kean, yet. I believe and commented that he should have been sacked as a result of his drink-driving conviction.

As he is still here he should be given the chance to show what he can do with the squad the owners have helped him put together.

This letter makes that job more difficult and does the Club a huge disservice at a time when it might have looked to loyal fans to get behind it and help to lift it away from the relegation zone.

As Owd Nick points out this letter and any supposed protests will also have played their part in sending us down if that should come to pass.

The players are demonstrably behind Kean. Let's hope they have more about them than this group of fans whose mis-timed actions have already further damaged the Club's reputation and threaten to do even worse.
The timing of the letter which purports to represent a 'majority' of fans is illogical and will only further damage the Club's reputation. They complain that we have become a laughing stock and then give further ammunition to the media who are always happy to laugh at us. I trust that Kean and the players are professional enough to be able to ignore it and get on with the job of reversing the desperate start to the season. Fans who think that there was an easy way to achieve what the owners asked of Kean when they gave him the job have little understanding of football. To expect free-flowing, exciting football from an ageing squad that had been comfortable with Sam's hoofball was a near-impossible task. Had Kean persisted with Sam's tactics not only the owners but the very same fans who are making noise now would have been complaining then also. As has been said many times Kean is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Now he has his own squad together and as he has reasonably accepted that he will be judged on results like any other manager. I am no fan of Steve Kean, yet. I believe and commented that he should have been sacked as a result of his drink-driving conviction. As he is still here he should be given the chance to show what he can do with the squad the owners have helped him put together. This letter makes that job more difficult and does the Club a huge disservice at a time when it might have looked to loyal fans to get behind it and help to lift it away from the relegation zone. As Owd Nick points out this letter and any supposed protests will also have played their part in sending us down if that should come to pass. The players are demonstrably behind Kean. Let's hope they have more about them than this group of fans whose mis-timed actions have already further damaged the Club's reputation and threaten to do even worse. lusorover
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8:41am Sat 10 Sep 11

J.C - Rishton says...

lusorover wrote:
The timing of the letter which purports to represent a 'majority' of fans is illogical and will only further damage the Club's reputation. They complain that we have become a laughing stock and then give further ammunition to the media who are always happy to laugh at us.

I trust that Kean and the players are professional enough to be able to ignore it and get on with the job of reversing the desperate start to the season.

Fans who think that there was an easy way to achieve what the owners asked of Kean when they gave him the job have little understanding of football.

To expect free-flowing, exciting football from an ageing squad that had been comfortable with Sam's hoofball was a near-impossible task.

Had Kean persisted with Sam's tactics not only the owners but the very same fans who are making noise now would have been complaining then also.

As has been said many times Kean is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Now he has his own squad together and as he has reasonably accepted that he will be judged on results like any other manager.

I am no fan of Steve Kean, yet. I believe and commented that he should have been sacked as a result of his drink-driving conviction.

As he is still here he should be given the chance to show what he can do with the squad the owners have helped him put together.

This letter makes that job more difficult and does the Club a huge disservice at a time when it might have looked to loyal fans to get behind it and help to lift it away from the relegation zone.

As Owd Nick points out this letter and any supposed protests will also have played their part in sending us down if that should come to pass.

The players are demonstrably behind Kean. Let's hope they have more about them than this group of fans whose mis-timed actions have already further damaged the Club's reputation and threaten to do even worse.
Lusorover - for once I actually think you make some very good points (although I don't agree with them all).
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1 question though I want YOU to answer (straight) - How long does he get ??
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If we keep failing to win EPL games (only draws and loses) and we get stuck at the bottom of the league (detatched), how long do you give him ? 2 games, 4 games, 1 month, 2 months, Xmas ??
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Or do we stick with him, pretend everything is fine, put our head in the sand and "get behind the lads" - which seems to have been your stance until now ?
[quote][p][bold]lusorover[/bold] wrote: The timing of the letter which purports to represent a 'majority' of fans is illogical and will only further damage the Club's reputation. They complain that we have become a laughing stock and then give further ammunition to the media who are always happy to laugh at us. I trust that Kean and the players are professional enough to be able to ignore it and get on with the job of reversing the desperate start to the season. Fans who think that there was an easy way to achieve what the owners asked of Kean when they gave him the job have little understanding of football. To expect free-flowing, exciting football from an ageing squad that had been comfortable with Sam's hoofball was a near-impossible task. Had Kean persisted with Sam's tactics not only the owners but the very same fans who are making noise now would have been complaining then also. As has been said many times Kean is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Now he has his own squad together and as he has reasonably accepted that he will be judged on results like any other manager. I am no fan of Steve Kean, yet. I believe and commented that he should have been sacked as a result of his drink-driving conviction. As he is still here he should be given the chance to show what he can do with the squad the owners have helped him put together. This letter makes that job more difficult and does the Club a huge disservice at a time when it might have looked to loyal fans to get behind it and help to lift it away from the relegation zone. As Owd Nick points out this letter and any supposed protests will also have played their part in sending us down if that should come to pass. The players are demonstrably behind Kean. Let's hope they have more about them than this group of fans whose mis-timed actions have already further damaged the Club's reputation and threaten to do even worse.[/p][/quote]Lusorover - for once I actually think you make some very good points (although I don't agree with them all). . 1 question though I want YOU to answer (straight) - How long does he get ?? . If we keep failing to win EPL games (only draws and loses) and we get stuck at the bottom of the league (detatched), how long do you give him ? 2 games, 4 games, 1 month, 2 months, Xmas ?? . Or do we stick with him, pretend everything is fine, put our head in the sand and "get behind the lads" - which seems to have been your stance until now ? J.C - Rishton
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8:57am Sat 10 Sep 11

owd nick says...

Of course he can't stay on as manager forever if we continue to loose games, but he needs to be given a reasonable chance to sort things out, with his own team.
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just as any new manager would need.
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Lets not forget that despite all and sundry being against him he played a significant part in keeping us up last season.
Of course he can't stay on as manager forever if we continue to loose games, but he needs to be given a reasonable chance to sort things out, with his own team. . just as any new manager would need. . Lets not forget that despite all and sundry being against him he played a significant part in keeping us up last season. owd nick
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8:58am Sat 10 Sep 11

dazzlerhull says...

can't wait for the rest of the knee jerk reaction brigade 'kean out' and 'venkys out' messages. We have to give them some games, be it 2, 4 or 6 no-one can predict. SK can't win because how long would it take usually take to bed in the number of new players we would all like to see, Formica, Rocina, Goodwillie, Dann, Yakubu. As long as we see progress over the next few weeks, lets face it the next few home games would be difficult in any circumstance.
can't wait for the rest of the knee jerk reaction brigade 'kean out' and 'venkys out' messages. We have to give them some games, be it 2, 4 or 6 no-one can predict. SK can't win because how long would it take usually take to bed in the number of new players we would all like to see, Formica, Rocina, Goodwillie, Dann, Yakubu. As long as we see progress over the next few weeks, lets face it the next few home games would be difficult in any circumstance. dazzlerhull
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9:06am Sat 10 Sep 11

hasslem hasslem says...

tick, tick, tick....time to stop making excuses and start performing. applies as much to the players as it does to kean and jensen.
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another defeat would make kean's position increasingly untenable....a win takes a bit of the pressure off.
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but kean is quite wrong, 3 points would not put us half-way up the table as all the other teams above us would have to lose this weekend, which will not happen.
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for those of you wanting a return of hughes - i think you should also wish for an end to world poverty and a settlement of the israel/palestinian conflict.....and whilst you think that jerome andersen is the devil incarnate...how would you feel about kia joorabchim (hughes' agent and advisor) getting his fetid infected tentacles around our beloved club? hughes (much as i loved him at rovers) will walk out when he gets the chance - look at what he did at fulham (and to a lesser extent rovers).
tick, tick, tick....time to stop making excuses and start performing. applies as much to the players as it does to kean and jensen. . another defeat would make kean's position increasingly untenable....a win takes a bit of the pressure off. . but kean is quite wrong, 3 points would not put us half-way up the table as all the other teams above us would have to lose this weekend, which will not happen. . for those of you wanting a return of hughes - i think you should also wish for an end to world poverty and a settlement of the israel/palestinian conflict.....and whilst you think that jerome andersen is the devil incarnate...how would you feel about kia joorabchim (hughes' agent and advisor) getting his fetid infected tentacles around our beloved club? hughes (much as i loved him at rovers) will walk out when he gets the chance - look at what he did at fulham (and to a lesser extent rovers). hasslem hasslem
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9:09am Sat 10 Sep 11

J.C - Rishton says...

dazzlerhull wrote:
can't wait for the rest of the knee jerk reaction brigade 'kean out' and 'venkys out' messages. We have to give them some games, be it 2, 4 or 6 no-one can predict. SK can't win because how long would it take usually take to bed in the number of new players we would all like to see, Formica, Rocina, Goodwillie, Dann, Yakubu. As long as we see progress over the next few weeks, lets face it the next few home games would be difficult in any circumstance.
Fair point dazzer but he dosent seem to pick "his own players". Formica and Rochina have been at the club for 8 and half months and he has not started Rochina in a single EPL game with Formica getting 1 start. Goodwillie continues to be behind Roberts in the starting line up.
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So if we continue to play Roberts, DD, MGP, RN then his own signings are never going to bed in, are they ?
[quote][p][bold]dazzlerhull[/bold] wrote: can't wait for the rest of the knee jerk reaction brigade 'kean out' and 'venkys out' messages. We have to give them some games, be it 2, 4 or 6 no-one can predict. SK can't win because how long would it take usually take to bed in the number of new players we would all like to see, Formica, Rocina, Goodwillie, Dann, Yakubu. As long as we see progress over the next few weeks, lets face it the next few home games would be difficult in any circumstance.[/p][/quote]Fair point dazzer but he dosent seem to pick "his own players". Formica and Rochina have been at the club for 8 and half months and he has not started Rochina in a single EPL game with Formica getting 1 start. Goodwillie continues to be behind Roberts in the starting line up. . So if we continue to play Roberts, DD, MGP, RN then his own signings are never going to bed in, are they ? J.C - Rishton
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9:13am Sat 10 Sep 11

J.C - Rishton says...

owd nick wrote:
Of course he can't stay on as manager forever if we continue to loose games, but he needs to be given a reasonable chance to sort things out, with his own team.
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just as any new manager would need.
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Lets not forget that despite all and sundry being against him he played a significant part in keeping us up last season.
He kept us up ?? - The team was 12th when he took over and that squad of "no hopers" (as SK and his appologists) are now re-writing history and painting them finished 10th in the EPL only 7 months before SK took over !!
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Delude yourself and defend the man if you have to but please don't do it by trying to distort facts (ie LEAGUE POSITIONS !!)
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Of course he can't stay on as manager forever if we continue to loose games, but he needs to be given a reasonable chance to sort things out, with his own team. . just as any new manager would need. . Lets not forget that despite all and sundry being against him he played a significant part in keeping us up last season.[/p][/quote]He kept us up ?? - The team was 12th when he took over and that squad of "no hopers" (as SK and his appologists) are now re-writing history and painting them finished 10th in the EPL only 7 months before SK took over !! . Delude yourself and defend the man if you have to but please don't do it by trying to distort facts (ie LEAGUE POSITIONS !!) J.C - Rishton
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9:15am Sat 10 Sep 11

ROVERSPAL1 says...

owd nick wrote:
Of course he can't stay on as manager forever if we continue to loose games, but he needs to be given a reasonable chance to sort things out, with his own team.
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just as any new manager would need.
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Lets not forget that despite all and sundry being against him he played a significant part in keeping us up last season.
That is a good JOKE .. HE played a part in keeping us up??
Under this drink driver we did NOT win a HOME GAME against any of the three teams that got relegated, we lost six points in total just there alone.. forget the other 19 he has unable to win since..
I hated BFS and still do but he had the same squad as Ince and we won THREE games out of four before he bought any changes to the club!! FACT!!!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Of course he can't stay on as manager forever if we continue to loose games, but he needs to be given a reasonable chance to sort things out, with his own team. . just as any new manager would need. . Lets not forget that despite all and sundry being against him he played a significant part in keeping us up last season.[/p][/quote]That is a good JOKE .. HE played a part in keeping us up?? Under this drink driver we did NOT win a HOME GAME against any of the three teams that got relegated, we lost six points in total just there alone.. forget the other 19 he has unable to win since.. I hated BFS and still do but he had the same squad as Ince and we won THREE games out of four before he bought any changes to the club!! FACT!!! ROVERSPAL1
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9:27am Sat 10 Sep 11

bburnrover says...

I cannot get my head around why both Roberts and some fans on here feel Kean kept us up last year. You may has well say Bin Laden attempted to save people after 9/11.Sam would never have got us relegated but Kean/Venkeys nearly did.We all no why because neither had a scooby how to run and manage a football club.I worry for the future unless we bring in a strong minded boss like Hughes but no decent manager would want to fly out and see those clowns every month.I do not go along with Kean's thinking after this disappointing transfer window as I havent seen anyone yet with the pedigree and skill to keep us up,I like the Dann signing but feel we need a top striker and wonder what will happen if Yak does not perform because noone else looks capable of putting the ball in the net.
I cannot get my head around why both Roberts and some fans on here feel Kean kept us up last year. You may has well say Bin Laden attempted to save people after 9/11.Sam would never have got us relegated but Kean/Venkeys nearly did.We all no why because neither had a scooby how to run and manage a football club.I worry for the future unless we bring in a strong minded boss like Hughes but no decent manager would want to fly out and see those clowns every month.I do not go along with Kean's thinking after this disappointing transfer window as I havent seen anyone yet with the pedigree and skill to keep us up,I like the Dann signing but feel we need a top striker and wonder what will happen if Yak does not perform because noone else looks capable of putting the ball in the net. bburnrover
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9:29am Sat 10 Sep 11

manyarecalled says...

I suspect that Owd Nick represents the majority of fans. he presents a sensible reasonable point of view.
there were fans who wanted to get rid of Sam , who was trying to bring young players through gradually , and alter the style of football. he wasn't given the time.
enter Venkys without patience , and appoint Kean , an inexperienced manager , who was thrown in at the deep end. I don't blame him . he works very hard in trying circumstances. the least we can do is give him until Xmas.
Venkys are doing things from the top down , but in football the best way is to get good players in , and then work upwards.
I suspect that Owd Nick represents the majority of fans. he presents a sensible reasonable point of view. there were fans who wanted to get rid of Sam , who was trying to bring young players through gradually , and alter the style of football. he wasn't given the time. enter Venkys without patience , and appoint Kean , an inexperienced manager , who was thrown in at the deep end. I don't blame him . he works very hard in trying circumstances. the least we can do is give him until Xmas. Venkys are doing things from the top down , but in football the best way is to get good players in , and then work upwards. manyarecalled
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9:34am Sat 10 Sep 11

roversok says...

Others state he "needs to bed in new players", King Kenny does not seem to be having any issues with his new players, Man U seem to have no issues.
The best player we had when Kean came in was never seen again Diouf, If he won every game between now & the end of the season he still would not be liked due to his constant lies, disrespect for the fans, not being capable of being his own person he is a puppet for the agents, on the plus side we have got the rock solid marquee signing that Kean beat the rest of the world to in Myles Anderson, the son of agent Jerome the very man who as put a knife into the infrastructure that was once Blackburn Rovers
Others state he "needs to bed in new players", King Kenny does not seem to be having any issues with his new players, Man U seem to have no issues. The best player we had when Kean came in was never seen again Diouf, If he won every game between now & the end of the season he still would not be liked due to his constant lies, disrespect for the fans, not being capable of being his own person he is a puppet for the agents, on the plus side we have got the rock solid marquee signing that Kean beat the rest of the world to in Myles Anderson, the son of agent Jerome the very man who as put a knife into the infrastructure that was once Blackburn Rovers roversok
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9:51am Sat 10 Sep 11

Dr.alan79 says...

manyarecalled wrote:
I suspect that Owd Nick represents the majority of fans. he presents a sensible reasonable point of view.
there were fans who wanted to get rid of Sam , who was trying to bring young players through gradually , and alter the style of football. he wasn't given the time.
enter Venkys without patience , and appoint Kean , an inexperienced manager , who was thrown in at the deep end. I don't blame him . he works very hard in trying circumstances. the least we can do is give him until Xmas.
Venkys are doing things from the top down , but in football the best way is to get good players in , and then work upwards.
Christmas? Are you really serious? There is no correct answer on how long to give him. We have to pick up points, simple as that. If we don't Kean has to go. What Kean has done to draw you all in is mystifying. Is it the good old "everyone loves an underdog"? Thus man nearly took us down, he did not keep us up. Did Hughes have his own team when he came in? Did Allardyce? No they didn't, but they made us difficult to beat at home. They took us from very precarious situations and steadied the ship. Kean took us from a steady ship and made us easier to beat. He signed four players in January. Almost half a team, yet he bought two that were for the future. If he felt we were going to struggle with his inherited team why didn't he address this in that transfer window? Ten months in charge, and still you want more time. Absolute madness, where does it end?
[quote][p][bold]manyarecalled[/bold] wrote: I suspect that Owd Nick represents the majority of fans. he presents a sensible reasonable point of view. there were fans who wanted to get rid of Sam , who was trying to bring young players through gradually , and alter the style of football. he wasn't given the time. enter Venkys without patience , and appoint Kean , an inexperienced manager , who was thrown in at the deep end. I don't blame him . he works very hard in trying circumstances. the least we can do is give him until Xmas. Venkys are doing things from the top down , but in football the best way is to get good players in , and then work upwards.[/p][/quote]Christmas? Are you really serious? There is no correct answer on how long to give him. We have to pick up points, simple as that. If we don't Kean has to go. What Kean has done to draw you all in is mystifying. Is it the good old "everyone loves an underdog"? Thus man nearly took us down, he did not keep us up. Did Hughes have his own team when he came in? Did Allardyce? No they didn't, but they made us difficult to beat at home. They took us from very precarious situations and steadied the ship. Kean took us from a steady ship and made us easier to beat. He signed four players in January. Almost half a team, yet he bought two that were for the future. If he felt we were going to struggle with his inherited team why didn't he address this in that transfer window? Ten months in charge, and still you want more time. Absolute madness, where does it end? Dr.alan79
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9:54am Sat 10 Sep 11

mrconcept says...

Im sick to death of certain fans (or is it just the pr team) making excuses for Keane. The guy has had more than enough time to make some sort of impact on the pitch, he hasn't produced, but more worryingly the rot is appearing off the pitch. THIS GUY SUCKS AS A MANAGER. He may be good as a physio or whatever but we need a REAL MANAGER. I curse those fans who called for allardyces head during the takeover. We were and should still be a top half team... not rock bottom...
Im sick to death of certain fans (or is it just the pr team) making excuses for Keane. The guy has had more than enough time to make some sort of impact on the pitch, he hasn't produced, but more worryingly the rot is appearing off the pitch. THIS GUY SUCKS AS A MANAGER. He may be good as a physio or whatever but we need a REAL MANAGER. I curse those fans who called for allardyces head during the takeover. We were and should still be a top half team... not rock bottom... mrconcept
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9:59am Sat 10 Sep 11

sonny says...

asides from his results record which speaks for itself steve kean is an horrible self centred character and theres no place for him at a family club like blackburn
asides from his results record which speaks for itself steve kean is an horrible self centred character and theres no place for him at a family club like blackburn sonny
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10:06am Sat 10 Sep 11

OnePostThenTheOther says...

dazzlerhull wrote:
can't wait for the rest of the knee jerk reaction brigade 'kean out' and 'venkys out' messages. We have to give them some games, be it 2, 4 or 6 no-one can predict. SK can't win because how long would it take usually take to bed in the number of new players we would all like to see, Formica, Rocina, Goodwillie, Dann, Yakubu. As long as we see progress over the next few weeks, lets face it the next few home games would be difficult in any circumstance.
Formica and Rochina have been at Rovers for 9 months. Does Steve the genius thinker think they're ready to start a game yet?

Is Goodwillie, the brave new hope for Scotland, good enough to oust the non-scoring Roberts from the starting line up?

Are we going into the Fulham game with any kind of confidence?

The genius thinker HOPES the fans will see a LITTLE TASTE of things. To me that sounds like managing expectations to the extent that we might see that the ball bounce in Fulham's box a few times (or whatever other inconsequential statistic he dreams up)

I don't accept that turning over the reserves of a League One side on your home patch is sufficient evidence for a "glimpse into the future"

In fact, I stopped caring what Steve Kean "thought" after his attempted justification of our pitiful performance against Blackpool.

Just shut up, try getting through a day without saying "I think" or licking your lips after every sentence and get some £$$%^& points on the board. I demand 3, Kean will be overjoyed with 1, in all likelihood it will be 0.
[quote][p][bold]dazzlerhull[/bold] wrote: can't wait for the rest of the knee jerk reaction brigade 'kean out' and 'venkys out' messages. We have to give them some games, be it 2, 4 or 6 no-one can predict. SK can't win because how long would it take usually take to bed in the number of new players we would all like to see, Formica, Rocina, Goodwillie, Dann, Yakubu. As long as we see progress over the next few weeks, lets face it the next few home games would be difficult in any circumstance.[/p][/quote]Formica and Rochina have been at Rovers for 9 months. Does Steve the genius thinker think they're ready to start a game yet? Is Goodwillie, the brave new hope for Scotland, good enough to oust the non-scoring Roberts from the starting line up? Are we going into the Fulham game with any kind of confidence? The genius thinker HOPES the fans will see a LITTLE TASTE of things. To me that sounds like managing expectations to the extent that we might see that the ball bounce in Fulham's box a few times (or whatever other inconsequential statistic he dreams up) I don't accept that turning over the reserves of a League One side on your home patch is sufficient evidence for a "glimpse into the future" In fact, I stopped caring what Steve Kean "thought" after his attempted justification of our pitiful performance against Blackpool. Just shut up, try getting through a day without saying "I think" or licking your lips after every sentence and get some £$$%^& points on the board. I demand 3, Kean will be overjoyed with 1, in all likelihood it will be 0. OnePostThenTheOther
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10:19am Sat 10 Sep 11

phia012 says...

I think the people that point to last years results and judge Kean solely on that are a little blinkered. I'm not Kean's fan, I do think he should go but I also think that we should give him 3 or 4 matches to save his neck. I predict he won't manage that, but then at least we've been reasonable.
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The fact is that it wasn't as important that BFS and Hughes didn't have their 'own team' because they could set them out however they liked. Kean has been given a remit (one that I like actually) to get the ball down and play proper football. The football at the beginning of the Hughes era was poor - it was only after he assembled his team that we started playing good stuff. The football during the BFS era was ALWAYS poor - even when we won I came away thinking we were cr@p.
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Kean now has a team that is capable of actually playing the way he has been asked to set them out, so if he fails in the next 3-4 games then that demonstrates that he really is incapable. From my perspective I'm worried that if we do sack him we won't get anybody else who is any better. Hughes won't come back, and I hope to god that we never have the two-face prat O'Neill because he would try to bankrupt us and then run away (and really people, take a close look at his record... pretty pants).
I think the people that point to last years results and judge Kean solely on that are a little blinkered. I'm not Kean's fan, I do think he should go but I also think that we should give him 3 or 4 matches to save his neck. I predict he won't manage that, but then at least we've been reasonable. . The fact is that it wasn't as important that BFS and Hughes didn't have their 'own team' because they could set them out however they liked. Kean has been given a remit (one that I like actually) to get the ball down and play proper football. The football at the beginning of the Hughes era was poor - it was only after he assembled his team that we started playing good stuff. The football during the BFS era was ALWAYS poor - even when we won I came away thinking we were cr@p. . Kean now has a team that is capable of actually playing the way he has been asked to set them out, so if he fails in the next 3-4 games then that demonstrates that he really is incapable. From my perspective I'm worried that if we do sack him we won't get anybody else who is any better. Hughes won't come back, and I hope to god that we never have the two-face prat O'Neill because he would try to bankrupt us and then run away (and really people, take a close look at his record... pretty pants). phia012
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10:33am Sat 10 Sep 11

jaysay says...

The most dangerous thing about Kean is he actually thinks he's a good manager and whats even worse is Venky's do too. God knows Ince was bad but this clown is beyond belief, at least Ince had played at the top level and had some success in the lower divisions, but the Premier League is not the place to blood a rookie manager, it was doomed to fail from the start and whats happened since as done nothing to change my mind that, under Kean, things won't be getting better anytime soon
The most dangerous thing about Kean is he actually thinks he's a good manager and whats even worse is Venky's do too. God knows Ince was bad but this clown is beyond belief, at least Ince had played at the top level and had some success in the lower divisions, but the Premier League is not the place to blood a rookie manager, it was doomed to fail from the start and whats happened since as done nothing to change my mind that, under Kean, things won't be getting better anytime soon jaysay
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10:40am Sat 10 Sep 11

Dr.alan79 says...

Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas
Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas Dr.alan79
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11:06am Sat 10 Sep 11

phia012 says...

Dr.alan79 wrote:
Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas
I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings.
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You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level.
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Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job.
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So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked.
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The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet.
[quote][p][bold]Dr.alan79[/bold] wrote: Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas[/p][/quote]I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings. . You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level. . Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job. . So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked. . The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet. phia012
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11:16am Sat 10 Sep 11

bluenwhite says...

how can 73 out of 90 be a minority!!!! cmon LET , now you have finally grown some balls, show venkys and kean the bit about the poll
how can 73 out of 90 be a minority!!!! cmon LET , now you have finally grown some balls, show venkys and kean the bit about the poll bluenwhite
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11:30am Sat 10 Sep 11

Dr.alan79 says...

phia012 wrote:
Dr.alan79 wrote:
Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas
I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings.
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You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level.
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Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job.
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So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked.
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The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet.
Ok then so Hoilett, Dunn, Pedersen, Emerton, Ollsson couldn't pass? Did Allardyce sign any of these players? It is you who is blinkered. Allardyce bypassed these players in favour of the big punt. Who are these big and strong players that Allardyce bought? N'zonzi and who else? I believe the budget was £5m plus loans, and I **** sure he could have done a lot with the wages they paid out. So that point is not "moot" either. If he wanted to play fast attacking football why take a defensive midfield player on loan? He described Formica as being like Batistuta, no way are they similar. Did he know who he was signing?
[quote][p][bold]phia012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr.alan79[/bold] wrote: Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas[/p][/quote]I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings. . You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level. . Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job. . So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked. . The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet.[/p][/quote]Ok then so Hoilett, Dunn, Pedersen, Emerton, Ollsson couldn't pass? Did Allardyce sign any of these players? It is you who is blinkered. Allardyce bypassed these players in favour of the big punt. Who are these big and strong players that Allardyce bought? N'zonzi and who else? I believe the budget was £5m plus loans, and I **** sure he could have done a lot with the wages they paid out. So that point is not "moot" either. If he wanted to play fast attacking football why take a defensive midfield player on loan? He described Formica as being like Batistuta, no way are they similar. Did he know who he was signing? Dr.alan79
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11:37am Sat 10 Sep 11

Brears says...

What irritates me the most is the fact that he must think that the fans are stupid. He talks about the backing that the new owners gave him, spending £10M on deadline day. Not sure how he got to that figure but never mind. The fact is that we received over £25M during the window. The clubs expenditure on new players was far from the substantial investment that we were promised (and Kean continually spouted on about) from the owners and the marquee signings that were going to be coming to the club. When you also take into account the players that have been released and have been allowed out on loan, the club have saved fortunes over the summer.
OK if the club and the owners have not got a pot to pee in and we have to trawl the bargain basement then fair enough but do not miselad the fans in an attempt to sell more season tickets by talking up the type of player we are going to be signing.
As far the squad goes does he seriously think it is stronger than last year. Just look at the number of players that have left compared with the introductions. It is not as though you can say the ones coming in have improved the first team compared with last year. Is Dann better than Jonesy, Goddwillie or Yakuba, better than Kalinic, RSC, or Diouff, or Petrovic better than JJ, Simon better than Emerton of Diouff?
It is clear that we desparately need a full back that can go straight into the first team to replace Salgado but nothing happened.

We were promised a quality striker. We got the Yak who not only couldn't get a game for Everton, didn't feature too much for Leicester in the championship last year. Last time I saw he looked like he had swallowed Benni Mc.

What heppaned to the loaan signings and his cosy up with Sir Alex which was going to lead to a striker and Gibson coming to the club?
Despite what Kean says I think he got no ral backing from Venkys. Alan McInally on Sky a couple of weeks ago said his mate Kean was desparate to bring in 4 players and had identifed some quality targets but the owners would not release funds. Why would anyone like Mark Hughes come to a club that is currently a laughing stock and rund by amateurs with no guarantee of real cash to spend.
What irritates me the most is the fact that he must think that the fans are stupid. He talks about the backing that the new owners gave him, spending £10M on deadline day. Not sure how he got to that figure but never mind. The fact is that we received over £25M during the window. The clubs expenditure on new players was far from the substantial investment that we were promised (and Kean continually spouted on about) from the owners and the marquee signings that were going to be coming to the club. When you also take into account the players that have been released and have been allowed out on loan, the club have saved fortunes over the summer. OK if the club and the owners have not got a pot to pee in and we have to trawl the bargain basement then fair enough but do not miselad the fans in an attempt to sell more season tickets by talking up the type of player we are going to be signing. As far the squad goes does he seriously think it is stronger than last year. Just look at the number of players that have left compared with the introductions. It is not as though you can say the ones coming in have improved the first team compared with last year. Is Dann better than Jonesy, Goddwillie or Yakuba, better than Kalinic, RSC, or Diouff, or Petrovic better than JJ, Simon better than Emerton of Diouff? It is clear that we desparately need a full back that can go straight into the first team to replace Salgado but nothing happened. We were promised a quality striker. We got the Yak who not only couldn't get a game for Everton, didn't feature too much for Leicester in the championship last year. Last time I saw he looked like he had swallowed Benni Mc. What heppaned to the loaan signings and his cosy up with Sir Alex which was going to lead to a striker and Gibson coming to the club? Despite what Kean says I think he got no ral backing from Venkys. Alan McInally on Sky a couple of weeks ago said his mate Kean was desparate to bring in 4 players and had identifed some quality targets but the owners would not release funds. Why would anyone like Mark Hughes come to a club that is currently a laughing stock and rund by amateurs with no guarantee of real cash to spend. Brears
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11:37am Sat 10 Sep 11

baldie says...

Last season's table was a one off and meant nothing until the final game was over.We were 12th when Kean took over,but we were only 4 points clear of the bottom 3.We are now next to bottom but we're only 3 points off Bolton in 10th.I remember when you didn't see a league table for 5 games. Frenchy quoted 6 to 8 games and we will know if it's working,he was spot on in my opinion.Until then it's time to get behind them.
Last season's table was a one off and meant nothing until the final game was over.We were 12th when Kean took over,but we were only 4 points clear of the bottom 3.We are now next to bottom but we're only 3 points off Bolton in 10th.I remember when you didn't see a league table for 5 games. Frenchy quoted 6 to 8 games and we will know if it's working,he was spot on in my opinion.Until then it's time to get behind them. baldie
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11:58am Sat 10 Sep 11

Woody Riversider says...

Morning fella's :)

I see the passion is coursing through the viens already !

I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon !

In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC.

He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ?

I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood.

I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ?

I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine.

Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ?

Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC.

Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline.

For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club.

So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads.

Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either !

No fear

Arte et labore
Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore Woody Riversider
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12:31pm Sat 10 Sep 11

phia012 says...

Dr.alan79 wrote:
phia012 wrote:
Dr.alan79 wrote:
Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas
I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings.
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You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level.
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Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job.
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So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked.
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The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet.
Ok then so Hoilett, Dunn, Pedersen, Emerton, Ollsson couldn't pass? Did Allardyce sign any of these players? It is you who is blinkered. Allardyce bypassed these players in favour of the big punt. Who are these big and strong players that Allardyce bought? N'zonzi and who else? I believe the budget was £5m plus loans, and I **** sure he could have done a lot with the wages they paid out. So that point is not "moot" either. If he wanted to play fast attacking football why take a defensive midfield player on loan? He described Formica as being like Batistuta, no way are they similar. Did he know who he was signing?
Dunn, Hoilett, Emerton and Pedersen you say - are you talking about the same players that I saw last season? Hoilett is fantastic with the ball at his feet, and he can even pick out a cross and a shot but he isn't exactly a Tugay when it comes to passing - or indeed half a Tugay. His passing is actually p1ss poor and he regularly underpowers passes - but I don't care because he's good enough at other things so that it doesn't matter.
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As for Dunn - he was always a great passer but he was a bit rubbish last season... his legs have gone and as much as I like the guy he just doesn't have the skill he once did. Emerton has never been any good at passing, his crossing has never been great either - to be honest while he was solid and tactically aware skill wise he's always been mediocre.
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Pedersen... do I actually have to grace that with a response?! He's been poor for the last 3 years, his passing is awful... my gran would give the ball away less.
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He took a defensive midfielder on loan because we NEEDED a defensive midfielder on loan. NZonzi was injured and Andrews was cr@p. Who else would you have him use?! Chicken Goujon? Linganzi? Both of which BFS brought in because they were big and strong but had NO skill.
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Kean inherited a very poor squad - there was only Jones being regularly used out of the youngsters and even he was being played out of position. We have Kean to thank for the huge strides forward our youngsters have taken.
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Formica - is he like Batistuta, I'm not sure I'm a bit too young to have seen Batistuta at that age - I only saw him towards the end of his career when he was a skillful setup man who was good in the air. Formica certainly doesn't have Batistuta's aerial prowess but I think he has everything else and maybe he plays the same role.
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You are suggesting we could have done much more in January - I honestly don't see how. You say we could have spent more on wages - probably we could, but if you can't afford to get the player in in the first place, or the player is not available then it doesn't matter what you can do with wages. £5m transfer fund does not get you a lot in January. And one more thing - they never said £5m plus loans, they said £5m for some permanent signings and a couple of loans.
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Back to Formica - you seem to be complaining about his signing "did he know who he was signing" when actually he is a great great prospect, he excites me (in an entirely non-gay way) every time he touches the ball.
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Oh and Olsson - yes, I'm saying he can't pass, passing is not his strong point at all.
[quote][p][bold]Dr.alan79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phia012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr.alan79[/bold] wrote: Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas[/p][/quote]I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings. . You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level. . Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job. . So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked. . The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet.[/p][/quote]Ok then so Hoilett, Dunn, Pedersen, Emerton, Ollsson couldn't pass? Did Allardyce sign any of these players? It is you who is blinkered. Allardyce bypassed these players in favour of the big punt. Who are these big and strong players that Allardyce bought? N'zonzi and who else? I believe the budget was £5m plus loans, and I **** sure he could have done a lot with the wages they paid out. So that point is not "moot" either. If he wanted to play fast attacking football why take a defensive midfield player on loan? He described Formica as being like Batistuta, no way are they similar. Did he know who he was signing?[/p][/quote]Dunn, Hoilett, Emerton and Pedersen you say - are you talking about the same players that I saw last season? Hoilett is fantastic with the ball at his feet, and he can even pick out a cross and a shot but he isn't exactly a Tugay when it comes to passing - or indeed half a Tugay. His passing is actually p1ss poor and he regularly underpowers passes - but I don't care because he's good enough at other things so that it doesn't matter. . As for Dunn - he was always a great passer but he was a bit rubbish last season... his legs have gone and as much as I like the guy he just doesn't have the skill he once did. Emerton has never been any good at passing, his crossing has never been great either - to be honest while he was solid and tactically aware skill wise he's always been mediocre. . Pedersen... do I actually have to grace that with a response?! He's been poor for the last 3 years, his passing is awful... my gran would give the ball away less. . He took a defensive midfielder on loan because we NEEDED a defensive midfielder on loan. NZonzi was injured and Andrews was cr@p. Who else would you have him use?! Chicken Goujon? Linganzi? Both of which BFS brought in because they were big and strong but had NO skill. . Kean inherited a very poor squad - there was only Jones being regularly used out of the youngsters and even he was being played out of position. We have Kean to thank for the huge strides forward our youngsters have taken. . Formica - is he like Batistuta, I'm not sure I'm a bit too young to have seen Batistuta at that age - I only saw him towards the end of his career when he was a skillful setup man who was good in the air. Formica certainly doesn't have Batistuta's aerial prowess but I think he has everything else and maybe he plays the same role. . You are suggesting we could have done much more in January - I honestly don't see how. You say we could have spent more on wages - probably we could, but if you can't afford to get the player in in the first place, or the player is not available then it doesn't matter what you can do with wages. £5m transfer fund does not get you a lot in January. And one more thing - they never said £5m plus loans, they said £5m for some permanent signings and a couple of loans. . Back to Formica - you seem to be complaining about his signing "did he know who he was signing" when actually he is a great great prospect, he excites me (in an entirely non-gay way) every time he touches the ball. . Oh and Olsson - yes, I'm saying he can't pass, passing is not his strong point at all. phia012
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12:33pm Sat 10 Sep 11

True_Blue_84 says...

You actually call that a Poll?

20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll?

Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders.

Don't make me laugh.

Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4?

Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments.

The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1.

They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''.

Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball.

Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids.

Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.
You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line. True_Blue_84
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12:55pm Sat 10 Sep 11

hasslem hasslem says...

Woody Riversider wrote:
Morning fella's :)

I see the passion is coursing through the viens already !

I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon !

In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC.

He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ?

I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood.

I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ?

I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine.

Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ?

Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC.

Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline.

For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club.

So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads.

Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either !

No fear

Arte et labore
you are just going down to blag another free pair of nizzas!
[quote][p][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore[/p][/quote]you are just going down to blag another free pair of nizzas! hasslem hasslem
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12:59pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Dr.alan79 says...

phia012 wrote:
Dr.alan79 wrote:
phia012 wrote:
Dr.alan79 wrote:
Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas
I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings.
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You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level.
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Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job.
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So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked.
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The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet.
Ok then so Hoilett, Dunn, Pedersen, Emerton, Ollsson couldn't pass? Did Allardyce sign any of these players? It is you who is blinkered. Allardyce bypassed these players in favour of the big punt. Who are these big and strong players that Allardyce bought? N'zonzi and who else? I believe the budget was £5m plus loans, and I **** sure he could have done a lot with the wages they paid out. So that point is not "moot" either. If he wanted to play fast attacking football why take a defensive midfield player on loan? He described Formica as being like Batistuta, no way are they similar. Did he know who he was signing?
Dunn, Hoilett, Emerton and Pedersen you say - are you talking about the same players that I saw last season? Hoilett is fantastic with the ball at his feet, and he can even pick out a cross and a shot but he isn't exactly a Tugay when it comes to passing - or indeed half a Tugay. His passing is actually p1ss poor and he regularly underpowers passes - but I don't care because he's good enough at other things so that it doesn't matter.
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As for Dunn - he was always a great passer but he was a bit rubbish last season... his legs have gone and as much as I like the guy he just doesn't have the skill he once did. Emerton has never been any good at passing, his crossing has never been great either - to be honest while he was solid and tactically aware skill wise he's always been mediocre.
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Pedersen... do I actually have to grace that with a response?! He's been poor for the last 3 years, his passing is awful... my gran would give the ball away less.
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He took a defensive midfielder on loan because we NEEDED a defensive midfielder on loan. NZonzi was injured and Andrews was cr@p. Who else would you have him use?! Chicken Goujon? Linganzi? Both of which BFS brought in because they were big and strong but had NO skill.
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Kean inherited a very poor squad - there was only Jones being regularly used out of the youngsters and even he was being played out of position. We have Kean to thank for the huge strides forward our youngsters have taken.
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Formica - is he like Batistuta, I'm not sure I'm a bit too young to have seen Batistuta at that age - I only saw him towards the end of his career when he was a skillful setup man who was good in the air. Formica certainly doesn't have Batistuta's aerial prowess but I think he has everything else and maybe he plays the same role.
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You are suggesting we could have done much more in January - I honestly don't see how. You say we could have spent more on wages - probably we could, but if you can't afford to get the player in in the first place, or the player is not available then it doesn't matter what you can do with wages. £5m transfer fund does not get you a lot in January. And one more thing - they never said £5m plus loans, they said £5m for some permanent signings and a couple of loans.
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Back to Formica - you seem to be complaining about his signing "did he know who he was signing" when actually he is a great great prospect, he excites me (in an entirely non-gay way) every time he touches the ball.
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Oh and Olsson - yes, I'm saying he can't pass, passing is not his strong point at all.
Ok I'll give you the Pedersen one, that was a very bad example on my part. However, the rest no way. You seem to have missed my points. I am not complaining about Formica at all and I agree he looks like a cracking prospect. What I am saying is that Kean pigeon holed him as a certain type of player, which he is clearly not. We spent £5m and had loans on top of that, which is what I was saying about the huge wages that we paid to Jones and Santa Cruz. These could have been distributed differently to bring in players that would have been fitting to the be style that he wanted to play. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one, as I believe there was more than enough skill in the team to play better football last season. On the few occasions under Allardyce when we actually put the ball on the deck we looked good. Anyway back to what we all want, Kean's team starts tomorrow so let's see what we can do. Come on you blues!
[quote][p][bold]phia012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr.alan79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phia012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr.alan79[/bold] wrote: Phia012, with respect, these are professional footballers. They should be able to pass the ball around if that's how you want to play. He also had the January window to get in a playmaker or two if that really was his remit. We now have 8 or 9 midfielders to keep happy, but no full backs with any pace. We lose the ball in midfield, they break down the channel we are exposed. The expansive football won't work without solidity in all positions. It's pretty obvious but not been addressed. I'm not being blinkered by last season, I'm being analytical on his whole tenure. We still have no idea how good his signings are because he hasnt played them. He is a weak manager, has had more than enough time, was given money to improve the team in January, again his team selection and tactics are bizarre and has failed miserably. Good luck tomorrow fellas[/p][/quote]I think you are being blinkered. You're judging him on last season - which as I said doesn't tell the whole story. I agree with him when he says judge him now that he's made his signings. . You're mistaken if you believe that 'they should be able to pass the ball around' the players were bought by BFS to be big and strong and to punt the ball and win it in the air - they were not bought for their silky skills, and passing the ball around they were barely championship level. . Your point about having had January to buy is also moot. We are all well aware that he had a budget of only £5m in January which is very limited (especially in that window). I think he did exceptionally well to get in Rochina and Formica who I believe will both become very important players for us. He also took a gamble on Jones and RSC - RSC turned out to be a complete waste of space but Jones (once settled) did a job. . So last season - being forced to play a different style without really having the players to do it pretty much he did as expected. Badly. Now he has the players to play the skill game - Rochina and Formica are both well adjusted and physically ready for the league so he has no excuses. 3/4 games is what he needs now - it's all or nothing, he either gets them performing and winning or he gets sacked. . The only area I agree with you is RB. We desperately need to replace Salgado as it looks like it's going to be one season too many for him. I think Olsson SHOULD play LB for the time being as he has the pace to cover - he reminds me a lot of Ashley Cole actually, Cole was poor defensively to begin with but fast and skillful going forward. Now he's great at both, so for those suggesting Olsson should be a winger - I wouldn't rule it out but I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket just yet.[/p][/quote]Ok then so Hoilett, Dunn, Pedersen, Emerton, Ollsson couldn't pass? Did Allardyce sign any of these players? It is you who is blinkered. Allardyce bypassed these players in favour of the big punt. Who are these big and strong players that Allardyce bought? N'zonzi and who else? I believe the budget was £5m plus loans, and I **** sure he could have done a lot with the wages they paid out. So that point is not "moot" either. If he wanted to play fast attacking football why take a defensive midfield player on loan? He described Formica as being like Batistuta, no way are they similar. Did he know who he was signing?[/p][/quote]Dunn, Hoilett, Emerton and Pedersen you say - are you talking about the same players that I saw last season? Hoilett is fantastic with the ball at his feet, and he can even pick out a cross and a shot but he isn't exactly a Tugay when it comes to passing - or indeed half a Tugay. His passing is actually p1ss poor and he regularly underpowers passes - but I don't care because he's good enough at other things so that it doesn't matter. . As for Dunn - he was always a great passer but he was a bit rubbish last season... his legs have gone and as much as I like the guy he just doesn't have the skill he once did. Emerton has never been any good at passing, his crossing has never been great either - to be honest while he was solid and tactically aware skill wise he's always been mediocre. . Pedersen... do I actually have to grace that with a response?! He's been poor for the last 3 years, his passing is awful... my gran would give the ball away less. . He took a defensive midfielder on loan because we NEEDED a defensive midfielder on loan. NZonzi was injured and Andrews was cr@p. Who else would you have him use?! Chicken Goujon? Linganzi? Both of which BFS brought in because they were big and strong but had NO skill. . Kean inherited a very poor squad - there was only Jones being regularly used out of the youngsters and even he was being played out of position. We have Kean to thank for the huge strides forward our youngsters have taken. . Formica - is he like Batistuta, I'm not sure I'm a bit too young to have seen Batistuta at that age - I only saw him towards the end of his career when he was a skillful setup man who was good in the air. Formica certainly doesn't have Batistuta's aerial prowess but I think he has everything else and maybe he plays the same role. . You are suggesting we could have done much more in January - I honestly don't see how. You say we could have spent more on wages - probably we could, but if you can't afford to get the player in in the first place, or the player is not available then it doesn't matter what you can do with wages. £5m transfer fund does not get you a lot in January. And one more thing - they never said £5m plus loans, they said £5m for some permanent signings and a couple of loans. . Back to Formica - you seem to be complaining about his signing "did he know who he was signing" when actually he is a great great prospect, he excites me (in an entirely non-gay way) every time he touches the ball. . Oh and Olsson - yes, I'm saying he can't pass, passing is not his strong point at all.[/p][/quote]Ok I'll give you the Pedersen one, that was a very bad example on my part. However, the rest no way. You seem to have missed my points. I am not complaining about Formica at all and I agree he looks like a cracking prospect. What I am saying is that Kean pigeon holed him as a certain type of player, which he is clearly not. We spent £5m and had loans on top of that, which is what I was saying about the huge wages that we paid to Jones and Santa Cruz. These could have been distributed differently to bring in players that would have been fitting to the be style that he wanted to play. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one, as I believe there was more than enough skill in the team to play better football last season. On the few occasions under Allardyce when we actually put the ball on the deck we looked good. Anyway back to what we all want, Kean's team starts tomorrow so let's see what we can do. Come on you blues! Dr.alan79
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1:02pm Sat 10 Sep 11

kazz says...

Some of u are just talking complete **** by saying kean needs to be given a chance. The bald bastad has been given more than a chance
Some of u are just talking complete **** by saying kean needs to be given a chance. The bald bastad has been given more than a chance kazz
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1:17pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Mark-brfc-till-i-die says...

If we beat fulham, maybe draw with arsenal and hammer leyton orient then majority of people will be singing keans praises. Thats how quicky things can change! I do hope he starts with all the new signings and plays 2 up front though! And stick that slew on the bench, he looks alot better than roberts. But with owners bossing everything that goes on I think kean is a dead man walking!
If we beat fulham, maybe draw with arsenal and hammer leyton orient then majority of people will be singing keans praises. Thats how quicky things can change! I do hope he starts with all the new signings and plays 2 up front though! And stick that slew on the bench, he looks alot better than roberts. But with owners bossing everything that goes on I think kean is a dead man walking! Mark-brfc-till-i-die
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1:21pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Mark-brfc-till-i-die says...

If we beat fulham, maybe draw with arsenal and hammer leyton orient then majority of people will be singing keans praises. Thats how quicky things can change! I do hope he starts with all the new signings and plays 2 up front though! And stick that slew on the bench, he looks alot better than roberts. But with owners bossing everything that goes on I think kean is a dead man walking!
If we beat fulham, maybe draw with arsenal and hammer leyton orient then majority of people will be singing keans praises. Thats how quicky things can change! I do hope he starts with all the new signings and plays 2 up front though! And stick that slew on the bench, he looks alot better than roberts. But with owners bossing everything that goes on I think kean is a dead man walking! Mark-brfc-till-i-die
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1:49pm Sat 10 Sep 11

petemcglinn says...

Hope all the rovers supporters going to the cottage tomorrow sing there hearts out, and get behind the boys which I'm sure you will, I wish I was going but bit skint, hopeing rovers proove all the doubters wrong.

Get the new signings on the pitch not warming the bench again.

Onwards upwards , we are rovers.

Coyb
Hope all the rovers supporters going to the cottage tomorrow sing there hearts out, and get behind the boys which I'm sure you will, I wish I was going but bit skint, hopeing rovers proove all the doubters wrong. Get the new signings on the pitch not warming the bench again. Onwards upwards , we are rovers. Coyb petemcglinn
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2:09pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Stone Island says...

Last season, SK oversaw our worst run of results for over 25 YEARS.
This season is our worst start for over 60 YEARS!
He has won just FIVE out of 24 PL games.
He has had TWO transfer windows, and has signed just two players with PL experience.
The subs bench for our first game of the season, didn't feature ONE outfield player with PL experience.
We stayed up last season DESPITE Kean, not because of him.

He is just NOT good enough, and the longer we stick with him, the more danger we will be in.
Despite what someone said above, BFS was sacked after 17 games, and we had 21 points on the board.
If SK is still the manager after 17 games, I will bet anyone on here that we won't have 21 points.

He may well have been a good coach, but a good manager he is NOT.
Last season, SK oversaw our worst run of results for over 25 YEARS. This season is our worst start for over 60 YEARS! He has won just FIVE out of 24 PL games. He has had TWO transfer windows, and has signed just two players with PL experience. The subs bench for our first game of the season, didn't feature ONE outfield player with PL experience. We stayed up last season DESPITE Kean, not because of him. He is just NOT good enough, and the longer we stick with him, the more danger we will be in. Despite what someone said above, BFS was sacked after 17 games, and we had 21 points on the board. If SK is still the manager after 17 games, I will bet anyone on here that we won't have 21 points. He may well have been a good coach, but a good manager he is NOT. Stone Island
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2:10pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Stone Island says...

Last season, SK oversaw our worst run of results for over 25 YEARS.
This season is our worst start for over 60 YEARS!
He has won just FIVE out of 24 PL games.
He has had TWO transfer windows, and has signed just two players with PL experience.
The subs bench for our first game of the season, didn't feature ONE outfield player with PL experience.
We stayed up last season DESPITE Kean, not because of him.

He is just NOT good enough, and the longer we stick with him, the more danger we will be in.
Despite what someone said above, BFS was sacked after 17 games, and we had 21 points on the board.
If SK is still the manager after 17 games, I will bet anyone on here that we won't have 21 points.

He may well have been a good coach, but a good manager he is NOT.
Last season, SK oversaw our worst run of results for over 25 YEARS. This season is our worst start for over 60 YEARS! He has won just FIVE out of 24 PL games. He has had TWO transfer windows, and has signed just two players with PL experience. The subs bench for our first game of the season, didn't feature ONE outfield player with PL experience. We stayed up last season DESPITE Kean, not because of him. He is just NOT good enough, and the longer we stick with him, the more danger we will be in. Despite what someone said above, BFS was sacked after 17 games, and we had 21 points on the board. If SK is still the manager after 17 games, I will bet anyone on here that we won't have 21 points. He may well have been a good coach, but a good manager he is NOT. Stone Island
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2:13pm Sat 10 Sep 11

lusorover says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
lusorover wrote:
The timing of the letter which purports to represent a 'majority' of fans is illogical and will only further damage the Club's reputation. They complain that we have become a laughing stock and then give further ammunition to the media who are always happy to laugh at us.

I trust that Kean and the players are professional enough to be able to ignore it and get on with the job of reversing the desperate start to the season.

Fans who think that there was an easy way to achieve what the owners asked of Kean when they gave him the job have little understanding of football.

To expect free-flowing, exciting football from an ageing squad that had been comfortable with Sam's hoofball was a near-impossible task.

Had Kean persisted with Sam's tactics not only the owners but the very same fans who are making noise now would have been complaining then also.

As has been said many times Kean is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Now he has his own squad together and as he has reasonably accepted that he will be judged on results like any other manager.

I am no fan of Steve Kean, yet. I believe and commented that he should have been sacked as a result of his drink-driving conviction.

As he is still here he should be given the chance to show what he can do with the squad the owners have helped him put together.

This letter makes that job more difficult and does the Club a huge disservice at a time when it might have looked to loyal fans to get behind it and help to lift it away from the relegation zone.

As Owd Nick points out this letter and any supposed protests will also have played their part in sending us down if that should come to pass.

The players are demonstrably behind Kean. Let's hope they have more about them than this group of fans whose mis-timed actions have already further damaged the Club's reputation and threaten to do even worse.
Lusorover - for once I actually think you make some very good points (although I don't agree with them all).
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1 question though I want YOU to answer (straight) - How long does he get ??
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If we keep failing to win EPL games (only draws and loses) and we get stuck at the bottom of the league (detatched), how long do you give him ? 2 games, 4 games, 1 month, 2 months, Xmas ??
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Or do we stick with him, pretend everything is fine, put our head in the sand and "get behind the lads" - which seems to have been your stance until now ?
Hi JC - it is difficult to say how many games he should have.

I would say definitely no more than 5.

If the next two games show zero points and poor team selection / tactics that would be the time to call it a day (providing there is a suitable replacement lined up of course).

If the next two games show good commitment and points on the board I would say he gets a life-line for the League Cup game.

In any event 5 games maximum.

Like Woody I have a grudging admiration for the way Kean has the players playing for him and for his own resilience. Two qualities that might just help to make him a decent manager in the future.

It's all about the points; if he gets them then, for me he buys himself time; if he doesn't he has to go.

For me. the round-robin letter and the poll of a huge number of 90 fans (!) are ill-judged and mis-timed. Three weeks from now might be a better time but let's hope they are not required and we can look back and have a good laugh at the bad memories.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lusorover[/bold] wrote: The timing of the letter which purports to represent a 'majority' of fans is illogical and will only further damage the Club's reputation. They complain that we have become a laughing stock and then give further ammunition to the media who are always happy to laugh at us. I trust that Kean and the players are professional enough to be able to ignore it and get on with the job of reversing the desperate start to the season. Fans who think that there was an easy way to achieve what the owners asked of Kean when they gave him the job have little understanding of football. To expect free-flowing, exciting football from an ageing squad that had been comfortable with Sam's hoofball was a near-impossible task. Had Kean persisted with Sam's tactics not only the owners but the very same fans who are making noise now would have been complaining then also. As has been said many times Kean is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Now he has his own squad together and as he has reasonably accepted that he will be judged on results like any other manager. I am no fan of Steve Kean, yet. I believe and commented that he should have been sacked as a result of his drink-driving conviction. As he is still here he should be given the chance to show what he can do with the squad the owners have helped him put together. This letter makes that job more difficult and does the Club a huge disservice at a time when it might have looked to loyal fans to get behind it and help to lift it away from the relegation zone. As Owd Nick points out this letter and any supposed protests will also have played their part in sending us down if that should come to pass. The players are demonstrably behind Kean. Let's hope they have more about them than this group of fans whose mis-timed actions have already further damaged the Club's reputation and threaten to do even worse.[/p][/quote]Lusorover - for once I actually think you make some very good points (although I don't agree with them all). . 1 question though I want YOU to answer (straight) - How long does he get ?? . If we keep failing to win EPL games (only draws and loses) and we get stuck at the bottom of the league (detatched), how long do you give him ? 2 games, 4 games, 1 month, 2 months, Xmas ?? . Or do we stick with him, pretend everything is fine, put our head in the sand and "get behind the lads" - which seems to have been your stance until now ?[/p][/quote]Hi JC - it is difficult to say how many games he should have. I would say definitely no more than 5. If the next two games show zero points and poor team selection / tactics that would be the time to call it a day (providing there is a suitable replacement lined up of course). If the next two games show good commitment and points on the board I would say he gets a life-line for the League Cup game. In any event 5 games maximum. Like Woody I have a grudging admiration for the way Kean has the players playing for him and for his own resilience. Two qualities that might just help to make him a decent manager in the future. It's all about the points; if he gets them then, for me he buys himself time; if he doesn't he has to go. For me. the round-robin letter and the poll of a huge number of 90 fans (!) are ill-judged and mis-timed. Three weeks from now might be a better time but let's hope they are not required and we can look back and have a good laugh at the bad memories. lusorover
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2:17pm Sat 10 Sep 11

lusorover says...

True_Blue_84 wrote:
You actually call that a Poll?

20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll?

Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders.

Don't make me laugh.

Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4?

Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments.

The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1.

They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''.

Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball.

Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids.

Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.
"Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. "

Here, here!
[quote][p][bold]True_Blue_84[/bold] wrote: You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.[/p][/quote]"Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. " Here, here! lusorover
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2:17pm Sat 10 Sep 11

eddie the eagle says...

Woody the swan is on the runway and there is some who believe it could take off.However there are many who believe it has been badly managed and is in danger of becoming flightless.If it could just get into the air tomorrow it could be the boost it needs,good to know you will be there to cheer it's attempt.
Woody the swan is on the runway and there is some who believe it could take off.However there are many who believe it has been badly managed and is in danger of becoming flightless.If it could just get into the air tomorrow it could be the boost it needs,good to know you will be there to cheer it's attempt. eddie the eagle
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2:19pm Sat 10 Sep 11

lusorover says...

Woody Riversider wrote:
Morning fella's :)

I see the passion is coursing through the viens already !

I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon !

In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC.

He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ?

I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood.

I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ?

I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine.

Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ?

Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC.

Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline.

For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club.

So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads.

Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either !

No fear

Arte et labore
Love it Woody!
[quote][p][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Love it Woody! lusorover
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2:49pm Sat 10 Sep 11

RoversLoyal says...

lusorover wrote:
Woody Riversider wrote:
Morning fella's :)

I see the passion is coursing through the viens already !

I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon !

In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC.

He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ?

I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood.

I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ?

I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine.

Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ?

Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC.

Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline.

For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club.

So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads.

Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either !

No fear

Arte et labore
Love it Woody!
I agree with the above two posters; people should stop whining and give the man 3 more games - a minimum of 4 points from 9 will do.
[quote][p][bold]lusorover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Love it Woody![/p][/quote]I agree with the above two posters; people should stop whining and give the man 3 more games - a minimum of 4 points from 9 will do. RoversLoyal
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3:17pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Rickvtr says...

RIGHT

kean now has his `own team` and no longer the team he inherited from big sam, apart from the obvious few.

Lets now give him his chance with his players hes brought in, 5 more games for me to turn it around.

Keans poor selection is not doing him any favours starting roberts and dunn, no more excuses now keano
RIGHT kean now has his `own team` and no longer the team he inherited from big sam, apart from the obvious few. Lets now give him his chance with his players hes brought in, 5 more games for me to turn it around. Keans poor selection is not doing him any favours starting roberts and dunn, no more excuses now keano Rickvtr
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3:28pm Sat 10 Sep 11

a_true_blue says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
lusorover wrote:
Woody Riversider wrote:
Morning fella's :)

I see the passion is coursing through the viens already !

I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon !

In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC.

He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ?

I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood.

I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ?

I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine.

Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ?

Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC.

Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline.

For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club.

So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads.

Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either !

No fear

Arte et labore
Love it Woody!
I agree with the above two posters; people should stop whining and give the man 3 more games - a minimum of 4 points from 9 will do.
Just how many three more games do you give the joker before you are in the same sh1t as last year?
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lusorover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Love it Woody![/p][/quote]I agree with the above two posters; people should stop whining and give the man 3 more games - a minimum of 4 points from 9 will do.[/p][/quote]Just how many three more games do you give the joker before you are in the same sh1t as last year? a_true_blue
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3:50pm Sat 10 Sep 11

French Rover says...

Woody Riversider wrote:
Morning fella's :)

I see the passion is coursing through the viens already !

I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon !

In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC.

He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ?

I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood.

I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ?

I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine.

Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ?

Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC.

Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline.

For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club.

So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads.

Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either !

No fear

Arte et labore
spot on Woody wish I could be with you to see a glorious win......no fear arte et labore indeed! Give em a cheer from les francais....
[quote][p][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore[/p][/quote]spot on Woody wish I could be with you to see a glorious win......no fear arte et labore indeed! Give em a cheer from les francais.... French Rover
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3:51pm Sat 10 Sep 11

baldie says...

81%?Looks more 50/50 reading this story. 73% of the people polled said they don't trust surveys.
81%?Looks more 50/50 reading this story. 73% of the people polled said they don't trust surveys. baldie
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3:59pm Sat 10 Sep 11

BlueSkies says...

Looking forward to the game, albeit watching it on TV.
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Selection pretty crucial tomorrow, obviously. We should have a strong back 4 in place which is a good start.
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SK is gonna have to go with the new boys as Dunn and Morst aren't going to be available. There are lots of options now. Hopefully, we'll start picking up the points. There were enough positives to take from the Everton game, to give cause for optimism.
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Keep the faith.
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Onwards and upwards!
Looking forward to the game, albeit watching it on TV. . Selection pretty crucial tomorrow, obviously. We should have a strong back 4 in place which is a good start. . SK is gonna have to go with the new boys as Dunn and Morst aren't going to be available. There are lots of options now. Hopefully, we'll start picking up the points. There were enough positives to take from the Everton game, to give cause for optimism. . Keep the faith. . Onwards and upwards! BlueSkies
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4:01pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Billypieman says...

I used to think that Smellthecoffee was paranoid about bogus accounts. I've now come to the conclusion he may be right. On here there is about 50% of posts in support of Kean. I have spoken to dozens of Rovers fans recently and I can honestly say I've not come across a single person who wants Kean as manager. Something doesn't quite add up.
I used to think that Smellthecoffee was paranoid about bogus accounts. I've now come to the conclusion he may be right. On here there is about 50% of posts in support of Kean. I have spoken to dozens of Rovers fans recently and I can honestly say I've not come across a single person who wants Kean as manager. Something doesn't quite add up. Billypieman
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4:16pm Sat 10 Sep 11

True_Blue_84 says...

Stone Island wrote:
Last season, SK oversaw our worst run of results for over 25 YEARS.
This season is our worst start for over 60 YEARS!
He has won just FIVE out of 24 PL games.
He has had TWO transfer windows, and has signed just two players with PL experience.
The subs bench for our first game of the season, didn't feature ONE outfield player with PL experience.
We stayed up last season DESPITE Kean, not because of him.

He is just NOT good enough, and the longer we stick with him, the more danger we will be in.
Despite what someone said above, BFS was sacked after 17 games, and we had 21 points on the board.
If SK is still the manager after 17 games, I will bet anyone on here that we won't have 21 points.

He may well have been a good coach, but a good manager he is NOT.
Quite right I miss counted, he would have average 46.9 a whooping 4 points better than Kean.

Hows about this then - Allardyce had 9 points on the board after the opening 10 games. 3 wins in the next 7 games an Kean will have matched Allardyces start.

Doesn't seem unachievable to me personally.

And don't come that worst start for 25 years sh1t. Whoopy do 3 losses in a row. Allardyce managed 1 point in his opening 3 games in the 09-10 season, and 10 points in his opening 10.

And just for the record, Allardyce had 19 in his opening 17 games in 09-10 but we managed 10th with 50 points? So a bad start doesn't always end in tears. It will do though if we upset the players frame of mind - GUARANTEED.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island[/bold] wrote: Last season, SK oversaw our worst run of results for over 25 YEARS. This season is our worst start for over 60 YEARS! He has won just FIVE out of 24 PL games. He has had TWO transfer windows, and has signed just two players with PL experience. The subs bench for our first game of the season, didn't feature ONE outfield player with PL experience. We stayed up last season DESPITE Kean, not because of him. He is just NOT good enough, and the longer we stick with him, the more danger we will be in. Despite what someone said above, BFS was sacked after 17 games, and we had 21 points on the board. If SK is still the manager after 17 games, I will bet anyone on here that we won't have 21 points. He may well have been a good coach, but a good manager he is NOT.[/p][/quote]Quite right I miss counted, he would have average 46.9 a whooping 4 points better than Kean. Hows about this then - Allardyce had 9 points on the board after the opening 10 games. 3 wins in the next 7 games an Kean will have matched Allardyces start. Doesn't seem unachievable to me personally. And don't come that worst start for 25 years sh1t. Whoopy do 3 losses in a row. Allardyce managed 1 point in his opening 3 games in the 09-10 season, and 10 points in his opening 10. And just for the record, Allardyce had 19 in his opening 17 games in 09-10 but we managed 10th with 50 points? So a bad start doesn't always end in tears. It will do though if we upset the players frame of mind - GUARANTEED. True_Blue_84
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6:16pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Woody Riversider says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Woody Riversider wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore
you are just going down to blag another free pair of nizzas!
Excellent Hasslem.

Could very well be on with HE tomorrow ? Find out later of NOS ?

A big one tomorrow for Kean. I'm hoping a decent performance & result ?

Had to come down, want to see with me eye's the future - LOL :)

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore[/p][/quote]you are just going down to blag another free pair of nizzas![/p][/quote]Excellent Hasslem. Could very well be on with HE tomorrow ? Find out later of NOS ? A big one tomorrow for Kean. I'm hoping a decent performance & result ? Had to come down, want to see with me eye's the future - LOL :) Arte et labore Woody Riversider
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6:25pm Sat 10 Sep 11

sonny says...

True_Blue_84 wrote:
You actually call that a Poll?

20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll?

Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders.

Don't make me laugh.

Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4?

Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments.

The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1.

They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''.

Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball.

Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids.

Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.
knob head.
[quote][p][bold]True_Blue_84[/bold] wrote: You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.[/p][/quote]knob head. sonny
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6:33pm Sat 10 Sep 11

Woody Riversider says...

eddie the eagle wrote:
Woody the swan is on the runway and there is some who believe it could take off.However there are many who believe it has been badly managed and is in danger of becoming flightless.If it could just get into the air tomorrow it could be the boost it needs,good to know you will be there to cheer it's attempt.
Hi Eddie & co,

The Swan is emerging.

Under Kean, well who knows ?

The team/squad looks in good shape. Now we just need it to function. Get us the results that gives us good voice.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]eddie the eagle[/bold] wrote: Woody the swan is on the runway and there is some who believe it could take off.However there are many who believe it has been badly managed and is in danger of becoming flightless.If it could just get into the air tomorrow it could be the boost it needs,good to know you will be there to cheer it's attempt.[/p][/quote]Hi Eddie & co, The Swan is emerging. Under Kean, well who knows ? The team/squad looks in good shape. Now we just need it to function. Get us the results that gives us good voice. Arte et labore Woody Riversider
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7:12pm Sat 10 Sep 11

True_Blue_84 says...

sonny wrote:
True_Blue_84 wrote:
You actually call that a Poll?

20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll?

Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders.

Don't make me laugh.

Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4?

Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments.

The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1.

They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''.

Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball.

Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids.

Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.
knob head.
Oh dear how offended am I!

Exactly the type of ''fan/muppet'' I was on about.

Your contribution to this article is invaluable - well done, Blue Peter badge in the post.

Kean would win the next 10 in a row and I bet you would still say Kean Out.

Its actually becoming boring this website now with the amount of illiterate weasels with nothing else to say other than DKO, Venkys Out, oh dear its the Kentaro PR Brigade because they don't agree with me.. it's such and such a body under 10 names, it must be a Dingle winding me up, it's a Bolton fan winding me up, it's an armchair warraior who doesn't even go.. etc etc etc etc etc... Yawn. Same sh1t, different day from you lot. Would hate to live your lives must be the most depressing existence in the world.

DFO - Donut Fans Out.
[quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]True_Blue_84[/bold] wrote: You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.[/p][/quote]knob head.[/p][/quote]Oh dear how offended am I! Exactly the type of ''fan/muppet'' I was on about. Your contribution to this article is invaluable - well done, Blue Peter badge in the post. Kean would win the next 10 in a row and I bet you would still say Kean Out. Its actually becoming boring this website now with the amount of illiterate weasels with nothing else to say other than DKO, Venkys Out, oh dear its the Kentaro PR Brigade because they don't agree with me.. it's such and such a body under 10 names, it must be a Dingle winding me up, it's a Bolton fan winding me up, it's an armchair warraior who doesn't even go.. etc etc etc etc etc... Yawn. Same sh1t, different day from you lot. Would hate to live your lives must be the most depressing existence in the world. DFO - Donut Fans Out. True_Blue_84
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9:05pm Sat 10 Sep 11

granty says...

At the end of the day guys, Kean has definatley run out of excuses now.

Last season therer was the take over to deal with, the injured jones, the bad press and the fact that the bottom of the table was so close it was scary.
This season we've lost one due to no centre back, lost one because we still had no centre back and lost another cos the lads cant score a penalty. And Everton got their dodgy one.

These are not my reasons but Keans,
The fact is, we now have a full strength squad. One that kean has assembled himself. Now is the time to show us Kean. Now your true colours will be seen, be them good or bad.

Starting tomorrow.......

ps, id like to take some of you back to when you were all going potty during the transfer window and i stated:
stop worrying
we'll sign 5-6 new players
samba will stay
hoilett will stay

i got slaughtered by the doom mongers for these statements....

Just shows eh:)
KDG Well done on your posts. Sorry i aint been around to help you out in times of need!! Im back now so we'll tag team the baddies when the time is right!!

COYB!!!
At the end of the day guys, Kean has definatley run out of excuses now. Last season therer was the take over to deal with, the injured jones, the bad press and the fact that the bottom of the table was so close it was scary. This season we've lost one due to no centre back, lost one because we still had no centre back and lost another cos the lads cant score a penalty. And Everton got their dodgy one. These are not my reasons but Keans, The fact is, we now have a full strength squad. One that kean has assembled himself. Now is the time to show us Kean. Now your true colours will be seen, be them good or bad. Starting tomorrow....... ps, id like to take some of you back to when you were all going potty during the transfer window and i stated: stop worrying we'll sign 5-6 new players samba will stay hoilett will stay i got slaughtered by the doom mongers for these statements.... Just shows eh:) KDG Well done on your posts. Sorry i aint been around to help you out in times of need!! Im back now so we'll tag team the baddies when the time is right!! COYB!!! granty
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9:06pm Sat 10 Sep 11

granty says...

At the end of the day guys, Kean has definatley run out of excuses now.

Last season therer was the take over to deal with, the injured jones, the bad press and the fact that the bottom of the table was so close it was scary.
This season we've lost one due to no centre back, lost one because we still had no centre back and lost another cos the lads cant score a penalty. And Everton got their dodgy one.

These are not my reasons but Keans,
The fact is, we now have a full strength squad. One that kean has assembled himself. Now is the time to show us Kean. Now your true colours will be seen, be them good or bad.

Starting tomorrow.......

ps, id like to take some of you back to when you were all going potty during the transfer window and i stated:
stop worrying
we'll sign 5-6 new players
samba will stay
hoilett will stay

i got slaughtered by the doom mongers for these statements....

Just shows eh:)
KDG Well done on your posts. Sorry i aint been around to help you out in times of need!! Im back now so we'll tag team the baddies when the time is right!!

COYB!!!
At the end of the day guys, Kean has definatley run out of excuses now. Last season therer was the take over to deal with, the injured jones, the bad press and the fact that the bottom of the table was so close it was scary. This season we've lost one due to no centre back, lost one because we still had no centre back and lost another cos the lads cant score a penalty. And Everton got their dodgy one. These are not my reasons but Keans, The fact is, we now have a full strength squad. One that kean has assembled himself. Now is the time to show us Kean. Now your true colours will be seen, be them good or bad. Starting tomorrow....... ps, id like to take some of you back to when you were all going potty during the transfer window and i stated: stop worrying we'll sign 5-6 new players samba will stay hoilett will stay i got slaughtered by the doom mongers for these statements.... Just shows eh:) KDG Well done on your posts. Sorry i aint been around to help you out in times of need!! Im back now so we'll tag team the baddies when the time is right!! COYB!!! granty
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9:09pm Sat 10 Sep 11

granty says...

My lads the mascot for the next cup game on the 20th!! Can't wait. We'll get to meet all the players and he'll get a kick around on the pitch too!!

If i meet Kean i promise not to slap him...not yet anyway, depends on tomorrows selection and result!!
roll on the 20th!!:))
My lads the mascot for the next cup game on the 20th!! Can't wait. We'll get to meet all the players and he'll get a kick around on the pitch too!! If i meet Kean i promise not to slap him...not yet anyway, depends on tomorrows selection and result!! roll on the 20th!!:)) granty
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10:02pm Sat 10 Sep 11

dazzlerhull says...

kazz wrote:
Some of u are just talking complete **** by saying kean needs to be given a chance. The bald bastad has been given more than a chance
Well said Kazz, could we add your articulate comments to the open letter that Henry Winter of the Daily Telegraph discussed
[quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: Some of u are just talking complete **** by saying kean needs to be given a chance. The bald bastad has been given more than a chance[/p][/quote]Well said Kazz, could we add your articulate comments to the open letter that Henry Winter of the Daily Telegraph discussed dazzlerhull
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11:24pm Sat 10 Sep 11

owd nick says...

manyarecalled wrote:
I suspect that Owd Nick represents the majority of fans. he presents a sensible reasonable point of view.
there were fans who wanted to get rid of Sam , who was trying to bring young players through gradually , and alter the style of football. he wasn't given the time.
enter Venkys without patience , and appoint Kean , an inexperienced manager , who was thrown in at the deep end. I don't blame him . he works very hard in trying circumstances. the least we can do is give him until Xmas.
Venkys are doing things from the top down , but in football the best way is to get good players in , and then work upwards.
Thank you, common sense at last, I despised Alardyce and his tactics and was desperate for anything that got rid of him as I firmly believed that despite us being in 12th position at the time we would go down. we were actually only 4 or 5 points clear of the bottom 3 at the time and I could see the confidence oozing out of the side.
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Lets not forget he wanted to leave and certainly wasn't committed to the Club, much more suited to Barcelona.
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Alardyce's teams simply couldn't adapt, the 7-1 defeat at the home of the red scum proved that, they were dead in the water from then onwards and it was only a matter of time.
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When your goalkeeper is top of the OPTA lists for goal assists it sort of sums it all up, why bother with a midfield?, especially on a cold winters night, -6C and dropping with only the will to live keeping us alive.
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Kean took over a boring, dying team of comfortable players who knew there was no likelihood of players coming in to challenge their positions, apart from the youngsters from the Academy, in itself a recipe for disaster.
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I am willing to give Kean until Christmas to prove himself, I know that may be too late for us, but if we get rid of him now who takes over, and do we give him 3 games then sack him?
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Kean behaved like a pratt over the drink drive charge and deserves everything he gets from the terraces for that, but he also deserves a chance to get our team working, and for that he needs the total support of all true Rovers fans.
[quote][p][bold]manyarecalled[/bold] wrote: I suspect that Owd Nick represents the majority of fans. he presents a sensible reasonable point of view. there were fans who wanted to get rid of Sam , who was trying to bring young players through gradually , and alter the style of football. he wasn't given the time. enter Venkys without patience , and appoint Kean , an inexperienced manager , who was thrown in at the deep end. I don't blame him . he works very hard in trying circumstances. the least we can do is give him until Xmas. Venkys are doing things from the top down , but in football the best way is to get good players in , and then work upwards.[/p][/quote]Thank you, common sense at last, I despised Alardyce and his tactics and was desperate for anything that got rid of him as I firmly believed that despite us being in 12th position at the time we would go down. we were actually only 4 or 5 points clear of the bottom 3 at the time and I could see the confidence oozing out of the side. . Lets not forget he wanted to leave and certainly wasn't committed to the Club, much more suited to Barcelona. . Alardyce's teams simply couldn't adapt, the 7-1 defeat at the home of the red scum proved that, they were dead in the water from then onwards and it was only a matter of time. . When your goalkeeper is top of the OPTA lists for goal assists it sort of sums it all up, why bother with a midfield?, especially on a cold winters night, -6C and dropping with only the will to live keeping us alive. . Kean took over a boring, dying team of comfortable players who knew there was no likelihood of players coming in to challenge their positions, apart from the youngsters from the Academy, in itself a recipe for disaster. . I am willing to give Kean until Christmas to prove himself, I know that may be too late for us, but if we get rid of him now who takes over, and do we give him 3 games then sack him? . Kean behaved like a pratt over the drink drive charge and deserves everything he gets from the terraces for that, but he also deserves a chance to get our team working, and for that he needs the total support of all true Rovers fans. owd nick
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1:04pm Sun 11 Sep 11

RoversLoyal says...

a_true_blue wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
lusorover wrote:
Woody Riversider wrote:
Morning fella's :)

I see the passion is coursing through the viens already !

I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon !

In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC.

He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ?

I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood.

I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ?

I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine.

Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ?

Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC.

Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline.

For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club.

So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads.

Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either !

No fear

Arte et labore
Love it Woody!
I agree with the above two posters; people should stop whining and give the man 3 more games - a minimum of 4 points from 9 will do.
Just how many three more games do you give the joker before you are in the same sh1t as last year?
The next 3.
[quote][p][bold]a_true_blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lusorover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Morning fella's :) I see the passion is coursing through the viens already ! I'm gonna need 3 Shredded Wheat, I reckon ! In my opinion, Kean is giving it straight now & his admittance to judge me now is, again in my opinion, stating his shelf life in the job down at BRFC. He has no hiding place now his players of choice are in place. Cursed luck aside I believe he can get the job done for that which we as BRFC supporters wish for ? I admire SK in a way for his resolute determination too follow his beliefs regardless of the view that a majority of supporters don't want him at Ewood. I may very well be lambasted for this comment but, I will stand by it simply because should the results begin to turn for SK then we could just very well have a manager of great substance on our hands ? I would most certainly be more vocal for his removal if I was witnessing a team berift of effort or determination for him. I'm no expert on football but, I have witnessed enough in my time attending football to distinquish a relegation threatened team & one of effort & endeavour who are attempting to play with the managers doctrine. Accepted, we should never have found ourself in this position but, the reality is that we are. Many a opinion is cast as to why ? Kean has pinned his colours to the mast & his tenure is now clearly up for sink or swim ? I personally wish for he to succeed, as I'm sure most supporters would acknowledge if only for the future of BRFC. Tomorrow I will stand on Craven Cottage as I stood on the Blackburn End in the day next to my fellow supporter swaying, shouting & cheering for the 'Mighty Blue Boys' ! Chuffing this & chuffing that at the ref, Fulham anyone who stands in the way of BRFC getting a result. 90 minutes of pure adrenaline. For those who don't make it down I'm taking you with me & your voice will be heard & here is hoping for a result to ease the pain that we are all feeling at this time but, as ever the passion does not dim for our beloved club. So come on you miserable, moaning b'stards the lads are coming out ! Sing your hearts out for the lads. Hey, & don't forget to give a mention to Kean either ! No fear Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Love it Woody![/p][/quote]I agree with the above two posters; people should stop whining and give the man 3 more games - a minimum of 4 points from 9 will do.[/p][/quote]Just how many three more games do you give the joker before you are in the same sh1t as last year?[/p][/quote]The next 3. RoversLoyal
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3:58pm Sun 11 Sep 11

Rover85 says...

True_Blue_84 wrote:
sonny wrote:
True_Blue_84 wrote: You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.
knob head.
Oh dear how offended am I! Exactly the type of ''fan/muppet'' I was on about. Your contribution to this article is invaluable - well done, Blue Peter badge in the post. Kean would win the next 10 in a row and I bet you would still say Kean Out. Its actually becoming boring this website now with the amount of illiterate weasels with nothing else to say other than DKO, Venkys Out, oh dear its the Kentaro PR Brigade because they don't agree with me.. it's such and such a body under 10 names, it must be a Dingle winding me up, it's a Bolton fan winding me up, it's an armchair warraior who doesn't even go.. etc etc etc etc etc... Yawn. Same sh1t, different day from you lot. Would hate to live your lives must be the most depressing existence in the world. DFO - Donut Fans Out.
I agree DFO - donut fans out. All of the willing to give Kean a bit more time brigade - oh I'm so sensible/common sense prevailing and if you disagree with me you are not a proper fan and your just resorting to knee jerk comments blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge - you know the type - the lovers of donut Kean, these people should be kicked out of the club along with the donut himself. Also if you back Steve Kean you are supporting a drunken lying criminal - you are condoning drink driving and lying, what kind of example is that for future generations? To say that it is fine to be able to break the law and hold a top job and position of management. I think all the Steve Kean backing donut fans who think that drink driving is fine should be kicked out of the club.
[quote][p][bold]True_Blue_84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]True_Blue_84[/bold] wrote: You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.[/p][/quote]knob head.[/p][/quote]Oh dear how offended am I! Exactly the type of ''fan/muppet'' I was on about. Your contribution to this article is invaluable - well done, Blue Peter badge in the post. Kean would win the next 10 in a row and I bet you would still say Kean Out. Its actually becoming boring this website now with the amount of illiterate weasels with nothing else to say other than DKO, Venkys Out, oh dear its the Kentaro PR Brigade because they don't agree with me.. it's such and such a body under 10 names, it must be a Dingle winding me up, it's a Bolton fan winding me up, it's an armchair warraior who doesn't even go.. etc etc etc etc etc... Yawn. Same sh1t, different day from you lot. Would hate to live your lives must be the most depressing existence in the world. DFO - Donut Fans Out.[/p][/quote]I agree DFO - donut fans out. All of the willing to give Kean a bit more time brigade - oh I'm so sensible/common sense prevailing and if you disagree with me you are not a proper fan and your just resorting to knee jerk comments blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge - you know the type - the lovers of donut Kean, these people should be kicked out of the club along with the donut himself. Also if you back Steve Kean you are supporting a drunken lying criminal - you are condoning drink driving and lying, what kind of example is that for future generations? To say that it is fine to be able to break the law and hold a top job and position of management. I think all the Steve Kean backing donut fans who think that drink driving is fine should be kicked out of the club. Rover85
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11:59am Mon 12 Sep 11

True_Blue_84 says...

Rover85 wrote:
True_Blue_84 wrote:
sonny wrote:
True_Blue_84 wrote: You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.
knob head.
Oh dear how offended am I! Exactly the type of ''fan/muppet'' I was on about. Your contribution to this article is invaluable - well done, Blue Peter badge in the post. Kean would win the next 10 in a row and I bet you would still say Kean Out. Its actually becoming boring this website now with the amount of illiterate weasels with nothing else to say other than DKO, Venkys Out, oh dear its the Kentaro PR Brigade because they don't agree with me.. it's such and such a body under 10 names, it must be a Dingle winding me up, it's a Bolton fan winding me up, it's an armchair warraior who doesn't even go.. etc etc etc etc etc... Yawn. Same sh1t, different day from you lot. Would hate to live your lives must be the most depressing existence in the world. DFO - Donut Fans Out.
I agree DFO - donut fans out. All of the willing to give Kean a bit more time brigade - oh I'm so sensible/common sense prevailing and if you disagree with me you are not a proper fan and your just resorting to knee jerk comments blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge - you know the type - the lovers of donut Kean, these people should be kicked out of the club along with the donut himself. Also if you back Steve Kean you are supporting a drunken lying criminal - you are condoning drink driving and lying, what kind of example is that for future generations? To say that it is fine to be able to break the law and hold a top job and position of management. I think all the Steve Kean backing donut fans who think that drink driving is fine should be kicked out of the club.
Oh yer blame me for his criminal activity and what I assume you perceive as minimal punishment.

But don't take a guess that I don't condone it. End of the day though he has stood in a court of law and been punished by somebody with a much higher standing in the community than yourself. Case is now closed. I don't agree with drink driving, but you argument isn't really valid. He wasn't required by law to relinquish his position in his job, so why should he?

Most people who are trying to stay positive don't support Kean - they support the team, the club.. and live the history of Blue & White through their veins.

He has got his chance to turn things around as he is still here, and if/when the others in the bottom half start to pull away he will be relieved of his duties I am sure.

Until then the in-fighting will continue, which is sad that the fans are so at war with each other and missing the point of being a fan. Fans support the team and cheer them on, but alot of them aren't doing that at the moment. The boo's against Everton for example where uncalled for.

Sh1t happens, this life.
[quote][p][bold]Rover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]True_Blue_84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]True_Blue_84[/bold] wrote: You actually call that a Poll? 20,000 season ticket holders and 90 ''people'' who may not even be season ticket ticket holders is classed a Poll? Lets say they all where though - thats just under 1% of supposed season ticket holders. Don't make me laugh. Think alot of the anti-Kean/Venkys brigade on here need to ask themselves what do they want from Rovers? What position do you see us as? Mid-table? Top 10? Top 6? Top 4? Then ask your-selfs what you deserve after all the sh1t you spout on here with your negative drivel, and sometimes just down and out rude comments. The ask your-selfs where would we be with Williams, Allardyce, Jones would have been sold, no replacements brought in, Junior sat in the reserves waiting to leave on a free, Herald Goulon and Chimbonda serving up some fine displays, Kalanic can't find the net and fall over ever 2 seconds... and whilst it's fresh in my mind about Keans post match analysis and press conference - I've never been so bored and disheartened as when Allardyce gave 1. They really where grim times. No money, no decent football, and a manager who sounded like he couldn't care less about Rovers and was destined for Madrid, and THE WORST SQUAD ROVERS have seen in 20 years. It was Allardyce who embedded the stigma that Rovers are a bottom half team who will try and defy the odds - and he was right. So why the hell should Kean not have struggled in his time with Allardyce's ''over achievers''. Allardyce got 18 points from his 15 games last season - that 45.6 over the course of a full season. We finished with 43 and no long ball. Jack Walker and Kenny Dalgish are not here any. Williams and Hughes are not here any more. Willaism and Allardyce are not here any more. Deal with it and stop sulking like a set of kids. Your all into posting facts on here about Keans low win ratio but fail to accept that Allardyces was destined to be just a bad last season if he was in charge still. He would have managed 2.6 points more - but we would have watched the worst brand of football in the league and still carry Allardyce's ''bully boys'' tag-line.[/p][/quote]knob head.[/p][/quote]Oh dear how offended am I! Exactly the type of ''fan/muppet'' I was on about. Your contribution to this article is invaluable - well done, Blue Peter badge in the post. Kean would win the next 10 in a row and I bet you would still say Kean Out. Its actually becoming boring this website now with the amount of illiterate weasels with nothing else to say other than DKO, Venkys Out, oh dear its the Kentaro PR Brigade because they don't agree with me.. it's such and such a body under 10 names, it must be a Dingle winding me up, it's a Bolton fan winding me up, it's an armchair warraior who doesn't even go.. etc etc etc etc etc... Yawn. Same sh1t, different day from you lot. Would hate to live your lives must be the most depressing existence in the world. DFO - Donut Fans Out.[/p][/quote]I agree DFO - donut fans out. All of the willing to give Kean a bit more time brigade - oh I'm so sensible/common sense prevailing and if you disagree with me you are not a proper fan and your just resorting to knee jerk comments blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge - you know the type - the lovers of donut Kean, these people should be kicked out of the club along with the donut himself. Also if you back Steve Kean you are supporting a drunken lying criminal - you are condoning drink driving and lying, what kind of example is that for future generations? To say that it is fine to be able to break the law and hold a top job and position of management. I think all the Steve Kean backing donut fans who think that drink driving is fine should be kicked out of the club.[/p][/quote]Oh yer blame me for his criminal activity and what I assume you perceive as minimal punishment. But don't take a guess that I don't condone it. End of the day though he has stood in a court of law and been punished by somebody with a much higher standing in the community than yourself. Case is now closed. I don't agree with drink driving, but you argument isn't really valid. He wasn't required by law to relinquish his position in his job, so why should he? Most people who are trying to stay positive don't support Kean - they support the team, the club.. and live the history of Blue & White through their veins. He has got his chance to turn things around as he is still here, and if/when the others in the bottom half start to pull away he will be relieved of his duties I am sure. Until then the in-fighting will continue, which is sad that the fans are so at war with each other and missing the point of being a fan. Fans support the team and cheer them on, but alot of them aren't doing that at the moment. The boo's against Everton for example where uncalled for. Sh1t happens, this life. True_Blue_84
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