Full-time: Blackburn Rovers 3 Millwall 2

ROVERS stretched their unbeaten home run to four games with a hard-fought victory over the Lions at a wind and rain-lashed Ewood Park.

Jordan Rhodes gave Gary Bowyer’s boys the lead in the 22nd minute only for Martyn Waghorn to bring Steve Lomas’ side level 20 minutes later.

Ben Marshall’s first goal for the club, three minutes after half-time, put Rovers back in front and substitute David Dunn seemingly settled the contest when he netted five minutes from time.

But there was still time for Steve Morison to reduce the deficit and the same player went close to grabbing a point for Millwall in five tense minutes of injury-time.

Rovers held on, however, to ensure they climbed up to 11th and within six points of the play-off places.

There were two moments of quality in a first half as poor as the conditions – and both resulted in goals.

The Lions saw a couple of half-chances come and go from crosses into the box while Tom Cairney forced David Forde into a save at his near post from a well struck free kick.

But it still came as a surprise when Rhodes opened the scoring in the 22nd minute.

There appeared little on when the striker chased down a long ball upfield.

But after bringing it under his control, Rhodes left Mark Beevers on his backside before rifling an angled 20-yard drive back across Forde and into the bottom corner.

It was a wonderful finish – and the Scotland international’s 12th goal of the campaign.

The goal should have given Rovers the impetus to take control of the game.

Instead Millwall – chasing their first away victory since September – were allowed to work their way back into the match and, after Morison had a strong penalty appeal turned down, they got the equaliser they deserved in the 42nd minute.

Liam Trotter showed excellent footwork before opening up the Rovers defence with a pass to Morison.

The on-loan Leeds United striker looked up before unselfishly squaring the ball across the area for his strike-partner Waghorn to slide in at the back post.

Waghorn – playing the last game of his loan from Leicester City – could have scored again moments later had Grant Hanley not prevented him from latching on to a Paul Robinson pass.

It proved a vital interception as shortly after the restart Rovers regained the advantage.

Tommy Spurr’s deep cross from the left was a good one and, after ghosting into the box, the unmarked Marshall planted a firm header past Forde.

Forde had no chance.

But the Republic of Ireland goalkeeper did manage to save from Chris Taylor three minutes later.

Taylor – up against his old team – drove at the Lions defence before playing a one-two with Marshall and seeing his left-footed effort from 20 yards turned over by Forde.

Then it was the turn of Simon Eastwood to be called into action.

Martyn Woolford shrugged off Adam Henley – who claimed he had been fouled – in the area and fired in a strike that Eastwood had to push over the bar.

Millwall were responding strongly.

But they were grateful to Forde for denying Taylor and then Rhodes after the latter had raced on to a superb through ball by Dunn.

And it was Dunn who thought he had made the game safe in the 85th minute after he nodded in off the post from close range after Hanley and then Rhodes had kept a Cairney corner alive.

But Morison set up a nervy finish when he tapped in at the back post after Eastwood missed sub Andy Keogh’s corner.

Eastwood, however, atoned for his error in injury-time when he did brilliantly to get down low to his right to stop Morison’s side-footed shot hitting the net.

Rovers: Eastwood, Henley, Dann, Hanley, Spurr, Marshall, Lowe, Cairney, King (Dunn 75), Taylor, Rhodes (Gestede 88). Subs: Kean, Kane, Kilgallon, Marrow, Rochina.

Booked: Taylor.

Goals: Rhodes 22, Marshall 48, Dunn 85.

Millwall: Forde, Dunne (Hoyte 85), Robinson, Beevers, Malone, Feeney (Easter 71), Trotter, Abdou (Keogh 77), Woolford, Waghorn, Morison. Subs: Bywater, Shittu, Moussi, McDonald.

Booked: Abdou, Feeney.

Goals: Waghorn 42, Morrison 89.

Referee: David Webb.

Attendance: 12,643.

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5:20pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Closer to the playoffs and Burnley another productive weekend.
Closer to the playoffs and Burnley another productive weekend. A Darener

5:29pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Getting closer to both The playoff positions and Burnley.
Well done to the team.
Getting closer to both The playoff positions and Burnley. Well done to the team. A Darener

5:32pm Sat 14 Dec 13

roversammo says...

Good result, thought dunny had made it safe but once again sloppiness nearly cost us. We must build from these decent results, the next four games are must win to have a chance of the play offs.
Good result, thought dunny had made it safe but once again sloppiness nearly cost us. We must build from these decent results, the next four games are must win to have a chance of the play offs. roversammo

5:38pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Sam-the-Man says...

Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy! Sam-the-Man

5:41pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Even Goodwillie scored today.
Even Goodwillie scored today. A Darener

5:45pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Early Christmas present from Skysports for all Rovers fans.
[quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Early Christmas present from Skysports for all Rovers fans. A Darener

5:55pm Sat 14 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Gentlemen, do not despair about the performance today, that was three points ground out in bad conditions that suited the visitors far more than us.

Very wet and very windy was ideal for a Millwall side intent on playing high balls, spoiling and competing physically.They were not a good side and whenever our men got ball into feet and run at them they were shaky, sadly we were too often dragged into the head tennis and sloppy passing.

Rhodes and Taylor were the pick of the first half, but notably young Henley and old Dann, who seemed obsessed with keeping the ball boys busy, didn't have the best first 45. Rhodes opened our scoring with a Shearer-like ' fight for it then finish but going in at half time 1-1 felt disappointing.

King and Spurr came out much stronger in the second half, the improving Marshall finishing a good move with a good header. I thought Eastwood looked comfortable throughout while Cairney and Lowe did the grafting in the middle and were again solid.

A cameo appearance by Dunn certainly lifted the game, and the crowd, his goal proving to be a very welcome match decider. Not surprising that the last 10 minutes were nervy, but hanging onto a 3-2 lead was a fair result given it was not a day for quality football.

Onwards and upwards.
Gentlemen, do not despair about the performance today, that was three points ground out in bad conditions that suited the visitors far more than us. Very wet and very windy was ideal for a Millwall side intent on playing high balls, spoiling and competing physically.They were not a good side and whenever our men got ball into feet and run at them they were shaky, sadly we were too often dragged into the head tennis and sloppy passing. Rhodes and Taylor were the pick of the first half, but notably young Henley and old Dann, who seemed obsessed with keeping the ball boys busy, didn't have the best first 45. Rhodes opened our scoring with a Shearer-like ' fight for it then finish but going in at half time 1-1 felt disappointing. King and Spurr came out much stronger in the second half, the improving Marshall finishing a good move with a good header. I thought Eastwood looked comfortable throughout while Cairney and Lowe did the grafting in the middle and were again solid. A cameo appearance by Dunn certainly lifted the game, and the crowd, his goal proving to be a very welcome match decider. Not surprising that the last 10 minutes were nervy, but hanging onto a 3-2 lead was a fair result given it was not a day for quality football. Onwards and upwards. greenscreener

6:09pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club.
We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.
Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club. We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys. Angry From Accrington

6:15pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Dukes says...

must needed win in the end we got it.
must needed win in the end we got it. Dukes

6:44pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?
[quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean? Angry From Accrington

6:44pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club.
We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.
If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath.
As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club. We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.[/p][/quote]If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath. As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year. A Darener

6:45pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?
Sorry wrong, not about SK.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?[/p][/quote]Sorry wrong, not about SK. A Darener

7:17pm Sat 14 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!! You're not mugging me off that easily

7:20pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Thought the game game was very flat until Rhodes scored a fantastic individual goal. You could here a pin drop at times Very nervy finish with Eastwood making a fabulous save when we were at 3 - 2. All in all a very good win in difficult conditions. Don't how the injured Millwall player went on after being carted off on only what can be descibed as a very brightly coloured fruit and veg type barrow never seen anything like it before.
Thought the game game was very flat until Rhodes scored a fantastic individual goal. You could here a pin drop at times Very nervy finish with Eastwood making a fabulous save when we were at 3 - 2. All in all a very good win in difficult conditions. Don't how the injured Millwall player went on after being carted off on only what can be descibed as a very brightly coloured fruit and veg type barrow never seen anything like it before. A Rover 45 years and over

7:42pm Sat 14 Dec 13

FakeVilla_MTCabinet says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
Thats 2000 more than you lot could muster last week when you were top, emphasis on the WERE. plummetting down now the peak has but passed.
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]Thats 2000 more than you lot could muster last week when you were top, emphasis on the WERE. plummetting down now the peak has but passed. FakeVilla_MTCabinet

7:50pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club.
We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.
If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath.
As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year.
So what exactly are you looking for from Venkys other than their departure?
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club. We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.[/p][/quote]If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath. As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year.[/p][/quote]So what exactly are you looking for from Venkys other than their departure? Angry From Accrington

7:53pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Sam-the-Man says...

A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?
Sorry wrong, not about SK.
You get one guess at this.
Who did we paste 5-0 in 2001?
Enjoy the present form Santa.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?[/p][/quote]Sorry wrong, not about SK.[/p][/quote]You get one guess at this. Who did we paste 5-0 in 2001? Enjoy the present form Santa. Sam-the-Man

7:57pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

Sam-the-Man wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?
Sorry wrong, not about SK.
You get one guess at this.
Who did we paste 5-0 in 2001?
Enjoy the present form Santa.
Ah, the great April Fools Day massacre! A Ferrari against a Mini, didn't their manager describe it as?
[quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?[/p][/quote]Sorry wrong, not about SK.[/p][/quote]You get one guess at this. Who did we paste 5-0 in 2001? Enjoy the present form Santa.[/p][/quote]Ah, the great April Fools Day massacre! A Ferrari against a Mini, didn't their manager describe it as? Stone Island:

8:05pm Sat 14 Dec 13

jim 2012 says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
glad you liked the crowd but the result was better
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]glad you liked the crowd but the result was better jim 2012

8:07pm Sat 14 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club.
We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.
If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath.
As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year.
So what exactly are you looking for from Venkys other than their departure?
An apology for the last three years would be a start.
An explanation as to why they contradicted every statement they made as to their intentions for the club.....see original statements.
A guarantee that SS will not have his contract renewed.
A statement to the affect they are returning the boardroom to the successful practises used before they took over. Etc etc.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club. We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.[/p][/quote]If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath. As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year.[/p][/quote]So what exactly are you looking for from Venkys other than their departure?[/p][/quote]An apology for the last three years would be a start. An explanation as to why they contradicted every statement they made as to their intentions for the club.....see original statements. A guarantee that SS will not have his contract renewed. A statement to the affect they are returning the boardroom to the successful practises used before they took over. Etc etc. A Darener

8:09pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs. Angry From Accrington

8:13pm Sat 14 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

One has to admit that's a good result. Congratulations.
One has to admit that's a good result. Congratulations. RobH2O

8:18pm Sat 14 Dec 13

baldie says...

Looks like you- know- who has booked another last minute holiday.
Well done Rovers,especially Marshall, who looks like he's coming to a bit.That goal should do him a world of good.
Good result on a rough day.
Now,go and follow it up next week.
Looks like you- know- who has booked another last minute holiday. Well done Rovers,especially Marshall, who looks like he's coming to a bit.That goal should do him a world of good. Good result on a rough day. Now,go and follow it up next week. baldie

8:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

leitchy says...

Only a good result if we can back it up with another win. Consistency has lacked far to much....hopefully we will build on it.

Much better than the last time we played them, a loss in the cup at Ewood where we couldn't buy a goal...at least we scored 3 today!
Only a good result if we can back it up with another win. Consistency has lacked far to much....hopefully we will build on it. Much better than the last time we played them, a loss in the cup at Ewood where we couldn't buy a goal...at least we scored 3 today! leitchy

8:34pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Tatts says...

Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Good spot! What a treat! At 6am, there's also highlights from the 4-1 thrashing of Bolton from that same season.
[quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Good spot! What a treat! At 6am, there's also highlights from the 4-1 thrashing of Bolton from that same season. Tatts

8:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO! Stone Island:

9:11pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
You lot can talk. I was in Burnley on business a couple of weeks ago, on Tuesday night, and noticed you were playing Watford. I thought I'd take in the game, but couldn't remember where Turd Moor was. I saw this mon walking towards me, so asked him if he knew where the ground was. He said "Aye lad, go to end of t' road, turn left and follow t' crowd" I ended up in bloody Tesco!
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]You lot can talk. I was in Burnley on business a couple of weeks ago, on Tuesday night, and noticed you were playing Watford. I thought I'd take in the game, but couldn't remember where Turd Moor was. I saw this mon walking towards me, so asked him if he knew where the ground was. He said "Aye lad, go to end of t' road, turn left and follow t' crowd" I ended up in bloody Tesco! Stone Island:

9:18pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club.
We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.
If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath.
As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year.
So what exactly are you looking for from Venkys other than their departure?
An apology for the last three years would be a start.
An explanation as to why they contradicted every statement they made as to their intentions for the club.....see original statements.
A guarantee that SS will not have his contract renewed.
A statement to the affect they are returning the boardroom to the successful practises used before they took over. Etc etc.
Look forwards not backwards. You are simply trying to justify your loss of interest.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Not a great game, not a great performance but another good result. The attendance was very disappointing but I applaud my fellow supporters for battling the elements and the economy for coming down and supporting their club. We now seem to have levelled out at the core of proper supporters until, of course, we get back into the Premiership when the synthetics will return, if If we are still owned by Venkys.[/p][/quote]If we are still owned by the Venky's when we get promoted I for one will not jump on the bandwagon of glory hunters. But I will wish the team great success in the PL. But realistically we have almost no chance of that happening in the near future unless the owners learn from their past mistakes. Something I don't think they will do. Although the last few months have shown that by keeping a low profile they can start to rebuild the club. Long may it continue but I will not hold my breath. As for today's game it would appear that the goalkeeping problem is not solved. Perhaps the return of Paul Robinson will lead to a push for the playoffs in the New Year.[/p][/quote]So what exactly are you looking for from Venkys other than their departure?[/p][/quote]An apology for the last three years would be a start. An explanation as to why they contradicted every statement they made as to their intentions for the club.....see original statements. A guarantee that SS will not have his contract renewed. A statement to the affect they are returning the boardroom to the successful practises used before they took over. Etc etc.[/p][/quote]Look forwards not backwards. You are simply trying to justify your loss of interest. Angry From Accrington

9:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave

9:28pm Sat 14 Dec 13

garyintandem says...

This game is typical Championship that we would have lost last year. I was at QPR last week and v impressed with our performance but had to come back to California so missed all the rain and the game today. Listened on RR and it sounded like we ground out a result. If we can squeeze 10 points out of the next 12, which we should do, it'll set us up nicely for a good run through to March when we'll overtake the Dingles. Gutted at missing Yeovil next week but onwards and upwards. COYB
This game is typical Championship that we would have lost last year. I was at QPR last week and v impressed with our performance but had to come back to California so missed all the rain and the game today. Listened on RR and it sounded like we ground out a result. If we can squeeze 10 points out of the next 12, which we should do, it'll set us up nicely for a good run through to March when we'll overtake the Dingles. Gutted at missing Yeovil next week but onwards and upwards. COYB garyintandem

9:35pm Sat 14 Dec 13

fireonthemountain says...

Well , obviously I am delighted that we won .

May I ask questions ? (I was not there) .

1 - When we went 3-1 up , with less than 10 minutes to go , did we sit back and relax ?

2 - Looking at statistics , it would seem that Millwall made a lot of effort and could so easliy have won . Is that true ?

3 - Did they deserve a penalty ?

Now let us discuss crowd numbers .

4 - Would you have driven / trained up here from South London , the week before Christmas , in atrocious weather ? Me neither .

5 - How many people really do not come to Home Games because they hate The Venkys ?

6 - I note a large pub has closed down - why ?

Last question -

7 - does the fact that a certain person is , well let's be polite and say "having some time off" have any effect on our crowd numbers and our play?
Well , obviously I am delighted that we won . May I ask questions ? (I was not there) . 1 - When we went 3-1 up , with less than 10 minutes to go , did we sit back and relax ? 2 - Looking at statistics , it would seem that Millwall made a lot of effort and could so easliy have won . Is that true ? 3 - Did they deserve a penalty ? Now let us discuss crowd numbers . 4 - Would you have driven / trained up here from South London , the week before Christmas , in atrocious weather ? Me neither . 5 - How many people really do not come to Home Games because they hate The Venkys ? 6 - I note a large pub has closed down - why ? Last question - 7 - does the fact that a certain person is , well let's be polite and say "having some time off" have any effect on our crowd numbers and our play? fireonthemountain

9:42pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Dickiepayshey says...

roversammo wrote:
Good result, thought dunny had made it safe but once again sloppiness nearly cost us. We must build from these decent results, the next four games are must win to have a chance of the play offs.
Sloppiness indeed !!!!!

Nobody on the back post to defend a corner for their last goal.

Pretty basic stuff really !! :-(

However, in the end, a good result in difficult weather conditions.
[quote][p][bold]roversammo[/bold] wrote: Good result, thought dunny had made it safe but once again sloppiness nearly cost us. We must build from these decent results, the next four games are must win to have a chance of the play offs.[/p][/quote]Sloppiness indeed !!!!! Nobody on the back post to defend a corner for their last goal. Pretty basic stuff really !! :-( However, in the end, a good result in difficult weather conditions. Dickiepayshey

10:04pm Sat 14 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

I had hoped to come back on here and engage in a bit of debate about football, but the usual suspects are here again, trotting out their sad little mantras, FFS you are boring when we lose, but when we win ? you are just sad.

All credit to Angry for having the passion to argue the toss but frankly Dave and Co can carry on howling at the moon forever, they have formed their opinion and I don't give a 5hit.

Three times this afternoon I was jumping out of my seat in exhilaration when we scored, many thousands were doing the same, and we had a bloody good time. Those of you who prefer to sit at home with your bitter misery have my sympathy, I don't know what the future holds for BRFC but I intend to enjoy it while I can.

RTID
I had hoped to come back on here and engage in a bit of debate about football, but the usual suspects are here again, trotting out their sad little mantras, FFS you are boring when we lose, but when we win ? you are just sad. All credit to Angry for having the passion to argue the toss but frankly Dave and Co can carry on howling at the moon forever, they have formed their opinion and I don't give a 5hit. Three times this afternoon I was jumping out of my seat in exhilaration when we scored, many thousands were doing the same, and we had a bloody good time. Those of you who prefer to sit at home with your bitter misery have my sympathy, I don't know what the future holds for BRFC but I intend to enjoy it while I can. RTID greenscreener

10:06pm Sat 14 Dec 13

OnePostThenTheOther says...

TFI got a free ticket. Millwall's first was best move of match. Route one lump for our first. Rest of game was headtennis, deadend, missplaced pass hoofball that Venkys promised to eradicate over three years ago. Expect double figures on Jan 4th with this goalie behind our defence.
TFI got a free ticket. Millwall's first was best move of match. Route one lump for our first. Rest of game was headtennis, deadend, missplaced pass hoofball that Venkys promised to eradicate over three years ago. Expect double figures on Jan 4th with this goalie behind our defence. OnePostThenTheOther

10:10pm Sat 14 Dec 13

owd nick says...

The game was poor from start to finish, Millwall came with a pressing, spoiling game-plan, the type employed now by several visitors to Ewood this season with mixed results and to be honest Rovers struggled to counter it, again.

This was three hard won points and it wouldn't be Rovers if they didn't have us hanging on at the end would it?

Protected in the stands, well the Jack Walker where we are and I suspect the Darwen End as well today, it wasn't until we were exposed to the elements on the way out that we realised just what both teams had played through, so chapeau to both of them, they both deserve a lot of credit.

Everyone put in a shift, I thought Rhodes had his first decent game for weeks, King and Marshall were excellent and Eastwood pulled off a cracking save low to his right to stop a certain goal late on.

Cold, wet, but considering everything pretty happy with the result by the time I got home.

Onwards and upwards.
The game was poor from start to finish, Millwall came with a pressing, spoiling game-plan, the type employed now by several visitors to Ewood this season with mixed results and to be honest Rovers struggled to counter it, again. This was three hard won points and it wouldn't be Rovers if they didn't have us hanging on at the end would it? Protected in the stands, well the Jack Walker where we are and I suspect the Darwen End as well today, it wasn't until we were exposed to the elements on the way out that we realised just what both teams had played through, so chapeau to both of them, they both deserve a lot of credit. Everyone put in a shift, I thought Rhodes had his first decent game for weeks, King and Marshall were excellent and Eastwood pulled off a cracking save low to his right to stop a certain goal late on. Cold, wet, but considering everything pretty happy with the result by the time I got home. Onwards and upwards. owd nick

10:13pm Sat 14 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well , obviously I am delighted that we won .

May I ask questions ? (I was not there) .

1 - When we went 3-1 up , with less than 10 minutes to go , did we sit back and relax ?

2 - Looking at statistics , it would seem that Millwall made a lot of effort and could so easliy have won . Is that true ?

3 - Did they deserve a penalty ?

Now let us discuss crowd numbers .

4 - Would you have driven / trained up here from South London , the week before Christmas , in atrocious weather ? Me neither .

5 - How many people really do not come to Home Games because they hate The Venkys ?

6 - I note a large pub has closed down - why ?

Last question -

7 - does the fact that a certain person is , well let's be polite and say "having some time off" have any effect on our crowd numbers and our play?
1. No, we defended some direct attacks but equally tried to run the clock down withe possession in their half.
2. No, they never looked like winning.
3. No.
4. No.
5. Doesn't really matter, I doubt half would come back if a Venkys left tomorrow.
6. Pubs closing all over the country, nothing special there.
7. Don't really think he's impacted the crowd much, and he certainly hasn't impacted play with anything positive in his entire Rovers career.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well , obviously I am delighted that we won . May I ask questions ? (I was not there) . 1 - When we went 3-1 up , with less than 10 minutes to go , did we sit back and relax ? 2 - Looking at statistics , it would seem that Millwall made a lot of effort and could so easliy have won . Is that true ? 3 - Did they deserve a penalty ? Now let us discuss crowd numbers . 4 - Would you have driven / trained up here from South London , the week before Christmas , in atrocious weather ? Me neither . 5 - How many people really do not come to Home Games because they hate The Venkys ? 6 - I note a large pub has closed down - why ? Last question - 7 - does the fact that a certain person is , well let's be polite and say "having some time off" have any effect on our crowd numbers and our play?[/p][/quote]1. No, we defended some direct attacks but equally tried to run the clock down withe possession in their half. 2. No, they never looked like winning. 3. No. 4. No. 5. Doesn't really matter, I doubt half would come back if a Venkys left tomorrow. 6. Pubs closing all over the country, nothing special there. 7. Don't really think he's impacted the crowd much, and he certainly hasn't impacted play with anything positive in his entire Rovers career. greenscreener

10:18pm Sat 14 Dec 13

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
I had hoped to come back on here and engage in a bit of debate about football, but the usual suspects are here again, trotting out their sad little mantras, FFS you are boring when we lose, but when we win ? you are just sad.

All credit to Angry for having the passion to argue the toss but frankly Dave and Co can carry on howling at the moon forever, they have formed their opinion and I don't give a 5hit.

Three times this afternoon I was jumping out of my seat in exhilaration when we scored, many thousands were doing the same, and we had a bloody good time. Those of you who prefer to sit at home with your bitter misery have my sympathy, I don't know what the future holds for BRFC but I intend to enjoy it while I can.

RTID
Seconded.

Personally I normally ignore these clowns, they are so far up their own arses they can lick their own tonsils.

The sad fact is they can't be bothered to even turn up for games, they just rely on radio and newspaper reports before spewing their bile on here.

Therefore their comments carry no weight whatsoever, well apart from the bodily fluids they eject while they are hammering the keyboard, or something else.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: I had hoped to come back on here and engage in a bit of debate about football, but the usual suspects are here again, trotting out their sad little mantras, FFS you are boring when we lose, but when we win ? you are just sad. All credit to Angry for having the passion to argue the toss but frankly Dave and Co can carry on howling at the moon forever, they have formed their opinion and I don't give a 5hit. Three times this afternoon I was jumping out of my seat in exhilaration when we scored, many thousands were doing the same, and we had a bloody good time. Those of you who prefer to sit at home with your bitter misery have my sympathy, I don't know what the future holds for BRFC but I intend to enjoy it while I can. RTID[/p][/quote]Seconded. Personally I normally ignore these clowns, they are so far up their own arses they can lick their own tonsils. The sad fact is they can't be bothered to even turn up for games, they just rely on radio and newspaper reports before spewing their bile on here. Therefore their comments carry no weight whatsoever, well apart from the bodily fluids they eject while they are hammering the keyboard, or something else. owd nick

10:18pm Sat 14 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
The game was poor from start to finish, Millwall came with a pressing, spoiling game-plan, the type employed now by several visitors to Ewood this season with mixed results and to be honest Rovers struggled to counter it, again.

This was three hard won points and it wouldn't be Rovers if they didn't have us hanging on at the end would it?

Protected in the stands, well the Jack Walker where we are and I suspect the Darwen End as well today, it wasn't until we were exposed to the elements on the way out that we realised just what both teams had played through, so chapeau to both of them, they both deserve a lot of credit.

Everyone put in a shift, I thought Rhodes had his first decent game for weeks, King and Marshall were excellent and Eastwood pulled off a cracking save low to his right to stop a certain goal late on.

Cold, wet, but considering everything pretty happy with the result by the time I got home.

Onwards and upwards.
Your assessment similar to mine Nick but I think to be fair the conditions worked against us more than them, when we tried to play on the deck they just resorted to hacking us down. On a nice warm sunny day I think we would have taken them as easily as we did Bolton and Barnsley.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: The game was poor from start to finish, Millwall came with a pressing, spoiling game-plan, the type employed now by several visitors to Ewood this season with mixed results and to be honest Rovers struggled to counter it, again. This was three hard won points and it wouldn't be Rovers if they didn't have us hanging on at the end would it? Protected in the stands, well the Jack Walker where we are and I suspect the Darwen End as well today, it wasn't until we were exposed to the elements on the way out that we realised just what both teams had played through, so chapeau to both of them, they both deserve a lot of credit. Everyone put in a shift, I thought Rhodes had his first decent game for weeks, King and Marshall were excellent and Eastwood pulled off a cracking save low to his right to stop a certain goal late on. Cold, wet, but considering everything pretty happy with the result by the time I got home. Onwards and upwards.[/p][/quote]Your assessment similar to mine Nick but I think to be fair the conditions worked against us more than them, when we tried to play on the deck they just resorted to hacking us down. On a nice warm sunny day I think we would have taken them as easily as we did Bolton and Barnsley. greenscreener

10:19pm Sat 14 Dec 13

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
The game was poor from start to finish, Millwall came with a pressing, spoiling game-plan, the type employed now by several visitors to Ewood this season with mixed results and to be honest Rovers struggled to counter it, again.

This was three hard won points and it wouldn't be Rovers if they didn't have us hanging on at the end would it?

Protected in the stands, well the Jack Walker where we are and I suspect the Darwen End as well today, it wasn't until we were exposed to the elements on the way out that we realised just what both teams had played through, so chapeau to both of them, they both deserve a lot of credit.

Everyone put in a shift, I thought Rhodes had his first decent game for weeks, King and Marshall were excellent and Eastwood pulled off a cracking save low to his right to stop a certain goal late on.

Cold, wet, but considering everything pretty happy with the result by the time I got home.

Onwards and upwards.
Your assessment similar to mine Nick but I think to be fair the conditions worked against us more than them, when we tried to play on the deck they just resorted to hacking us down. On a nice warm sunny day I think we would have taken them as easily as we did Bolton and Barnsley.
I suppose it's called winning ugly. lol.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: The game was poor from start to finish, Millwall came with a pressing, spoiling game-plan, the type employed now by several visitors to Ewood this season with mixed results and to be honest Rovers struggled to counter it, again. This was three hard won points and it wouldn't be Rovers if they didn't have us hanging on at the end would it? Protected in the stands, well the Jack Walker where we are and I suspect the Darwen End as well today, it wasn't until we were exposed to the elements on the way out that we realised just what both teams had played through, so chapeau to both of them, they both deserve a lot of credit. Everyone put in a shift, I thought Rhodes had his first decent game for weeks, King and Marshall were excellent and Eastwood pulled off a cracking save low to his right to stop a certain goal late on. Cold, wet, but considering everything pretty happy with the result by the time I got home. Onwards and upwards.[/p][/quote]Your assessment similar to mine Nick but I think to be fair the conditions worked against us more than them, when we tried to play on the deck they just resorted to hacking us down. On a nice warm sunny day I think we would have taken them as easily as we did Bolton and Barnsley.[/p][/quote]I suppose it's called winning ugly. lol. owd nick

10:20pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick. Angry From Accrington

10:33pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you. Angry From Accrington

10:46pm Sat 14 Dec 13

owd nick says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well , obviously I am delighted that we won .

May I ask questions ? (I was not there) .

1 - When we went 3-1 up , with less than 10 minutes to go , did we sit back and relax ?

2 - Looking at statistics , it would seem that Millwall made a lot of effort and could so easliy have won . Is that true ?

3 - Did they deserve a penalty ?

Now let us discuss crowd numbers .

4 - Would you have driven / trained up here from South London , the week before Christmas , in atrocious weather ? Me neither .

5 - How many people really do not come to Home Games because they hate The Venkys ?

6 - I note a large pub has closed down - why ?

Last question -

7 - does the fact that a certain person is , well let's be polite and say "having some time off" have any effect on our crowd numbers and our play?
1 - No, Millwall played a pressing game throughout, they never gave up and the had the wind and rain at their backs in the second half, they came for a point and did their best to get it.
2 - I think Eastwood had 5 saves to make in the game, he made 3, nearly stopped the equaliser and had no chance with the second.
3 - I was a long way from the penalty incident but I wouldn't have been surprised if it was given.
4 - That is really up to the Millwall fans, looking at their away form, no I wouldn't.
5 - You are either a Rovers fan or not, I dislike what Venky's have done to our club but that is never going to stop me supporting our club, If you want to stay away fine by me, but if you aren't going to put your money where your mouth is does that allow you to be classed as a Rovers fan?
6 - Which large pub?
7- I care about Shebby and his whereabouts as much as what I flushed down the toilet about 30 minutes ago.

Affecting our crowd? I don't give a toss.

Affecting our play definitely not.

PS - If you don't want to support Rovers, Burnley are desperate for glory seeking fans.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well , obviously I am delighted that we won . May I ask questions ? (I was not there) . 1 - When we went 3-1 up , with less than 10 minutes to go , did we sit back and relax ? 2 - Looking at statistics , it would seem that Millwall made a lot of effort and could so easliy have won . Is that true ? 3 - Did they deserve a penalty ? Now let us discuss crowd numbers . 4 - Would you have driven / trained up here from South London , the week before Christmas , in atrocious weather ? Me neither . 5 - How many people really do not come to Home Games because they hate The Venkys ? 6 - I note a large pub has closed down - why ? Last question - 7 - does the fact that a certain person is , well let's be polite and say "having some time off" have any effect on our crowd numbers and our play?[/p][/quote]1 - No, Millwall played a pressing game throughout, they never gave up and the had the wind and rain at their backs in the second half, they came for a point and did their best to get it. 2 - I think Eastwood had 5 saves to make in the game, he made 3, nearly stopped the equaliser and had no chance with the second. 3 - I was a long way from the penalty incident but I wouldn't have been surprised if it was given. 4 - That is really up to the Millwall fans, looking at their away form, no I wouldn't. 5 - You are either a Rovers fan or not, I dislike what Venky's have done to our club but that is never going to stop me supporting our club, If you want to stay away fine by me, but if you aren't going to put your money where your mouth is does that allow you to be classed as a Rovers fan? 6 - Which large pub? 7- I care about Shebby and his whereabouts as much as what I flushed down the toilet about 30 minutes ago. Affecting our crowd? I don't give a toss. Affecting our play definitely not. PS - If you don't want to support Rovers, Burnley are desperate for glory seeking fans. owd nick

10:48pm Sat 14 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you.
LOL

Thanks Angry!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you.[/p][/quote]LOL Thanks Angry! owd nick

10:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Great news! Just been watching Psychopath Night on Channel 4 and took the on line questionnaire. I scored 73%! Just give me a thumbs up if you want to congratulate me.
Great news! Just been watching Psychopath Night on Channel 4 and took the on line questionnaire. I scored 73%! Just give me a thumbs up if you want to congratulate me. Angry From Accrington

10:53pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

owd nick wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you.
LOL

Thanks Angry!
Merry Christmas St. Nick
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you.[/p][/quote]LOL Thanks Angry![/p][/quote]Merry Christmas St. Nick Angry From Accrington

11:00pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really?
Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764
Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253
Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740
Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976

http://ewoodpark.jim
do.com/attendances-a
verage-attendances-1
888-2013/

VSO!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO! Stone Island:

11:00pm Sat 14 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Great news! Just been watching Psychopath Night on Channel 4 and took the on line questionnaire. I scored 73%! Just give me a thumbs up if you want to congratulate me.
I suspect that's the norm for Accrington, the average scores rise the further east you live.
:-)
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Great news! Just been watching Psychopath Night on Channel 4 and took the on line questionnaire. I scored 73%! Just give me a thumbs up if you want to congratulate me.[/p][/quote]I suspect that's the norm for Accrington, the average scores rise the further east you live. :-) greenscreener

11:05pm Sat 14 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you.
LOL

Thanks Angry!
Merry Christmas St. Nick
And you, I am pretty certain it's going to be. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Thank you for your reply David, and to your carer for typing it for you.[/p][/quote]LOL Thanks Angry![/p][/quote]Merry Christmas St. Nick[/p][/quote]And you, I am pretty certain it's going to be. :-) owd nick

11:17pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Sam-the-Man wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?
Sorry wrong, not about SK.
You get one guess at this.
Who did we paste 5-0 in 2001?
Enjoy the present form Santa.
Ah, the great April Fools Day massacre! A Ferrari against a Mini, didn't their manager describe it as?
Rolls Royce actually, Stan Tenements famous last words (well nearly)
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Alright, I give in. What's all this about? Let me guess. Steve Kean?[/p][/quote]Sorry wrong, not about SK.[/p][/quote]You get one guess at this. Who did we paste 5-0 in 2001? Enjoy the present form Santa.[/p][/quote]Ah, the great April Fools Day massacre! A Ferrari against a Mini, didn't their manager describe it as?[/p][/quote]Rolls Royce actually, Stan Tenements famous last words (well nearly) Wild Rover

11:24pm Sat 14 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really?
Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764
Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253
Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740
Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976

http://ewoodpark.jim

do.com/attendances-a

verage-attendances-1

888-2013/

VSO!
And that proves what exactly?

Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps?

You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are?

I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz.

The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they?

So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO![/p][/quote]And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most. owd nick

11:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really?
Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764
Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253
Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740
Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976

http://ewoodpark.jim

do.com/attendances-a

verage-attendances-1

888-2013/

VSO!
Point taken but it still proves that 25% of so called supporters were glitterballs and now that percentage has increased.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO![/p][/quote]Point taken but it still proves that 25% of so called supporters were glitterballs and now that percentage has increased. Angry From Accrington

11:26pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

greenscreener wrote:
I had hoped to come back on here and engage in a bit of debate about football, but the usual suspects are here again, trotting out their sad little mantras, FFS you are boring when we lose, but when we win ? you are just sad.

All credit to Angry for having the passion to argue the toss but frankly Dave and Co can carry on howling at the moon forever, they have formed their opinion and I don't give a 5hit.

Three times this afternoon I was jumping out of my seat in exhilaration when we scored, many thousands were doing the same, and we had a bloody good time. Those of you who prefer to sit at home with your bitter misery have my sympathy, I don't know what the future holds for BRFC but I intend to enjoy it while I can.

RTID
I second that thought GS, my sister who is nearly 70 and just had a hip replacement a couple of weeks ago was there in her seat as usual even in the stinking weather...now that is dedication. And we both enjoyed the win
Please no gutter remarks !
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: I had hoped to come back on here and engage in a bit of debate about football, but the usual suspects are here again, trotting out their sad little mantras, FFS you are boring when we lose, but when we win ? you are just sad. All credit to Angry for having the passion to argue the toss but frankly Dave and Co can carry on howling at the moon forever, they have formed their opinion and I don't give a 5hit. Three times this afternoon I was jumping out of my seat in exhilaration when we scored, many thousands were doing the same, and we had a bloody good time. Those of you who prefer to sit at home with your bitter misery have my sympathy, I don't know what the future holds for BRFC but I intend to enjoy it while I can. RTID[/p][/quote]I second that thought GS, my sister who is nearly 70 and just had a hip replacement a couple of weeks ago was there in her seat as usual even in the stinking weather...now that is dedication. And we both enjoyed the win Please no gutter remarks ! Wild Rover

11:28pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

Sorry Greenie, that last bit was not for you but the troll army
Sorry Greenie, that last bit was not for you but the troll army Wild Rover

11:44pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

Another two points whittled of the Dingles allegedly invincible lead, not a great game but a great three points....
Another two points whittled of the Dingles allegedly invincible lead, not a great game but a great three points.... Wild Rover

11:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Stone Island: wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
You lot can talk. I was in Burnley on business a couple of weeks ago, on Tuesday night, and noticed you were playing Watford. I thought I'd take in the game, but couldn't remember where Turd Moor was. I saw this mon walking towards me, so asked him if he knew where the ground was. He said "Aye lad, go to end of t' road, turn left and follow t' crowd" I ended up in bloody Tesco!
No point doing business in Burnley. Nowhere worth burglaring over there.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]You lot can talk. I was in Burnley on business a couple of weeks ago, on Tuesday night, and noticed you were playing Watford. I thought I'd take in the game, but couldn't remember where Turd Moor was. I saw this mon walking towards me, so asked him if he knew where the ground was. He said "Aye lad, go to end of t' road, turn left and follow t' crowd" I ended up in bloody Tesco![/p][/quote]No point doing business in Burnley. Nowhere worth burglaring over there. Angry From Accrington

12:11am Sun 15 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

owd nick wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really?
Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764
Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253
Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740
Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976

http://ewoodpark.jim


do.com/attendances-a


verage-attendances-1


888-2013/

VSO!
And that proves what exactly?

Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps?

You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are?

I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz.

The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they?

So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.
The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago.

VSO!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO![/p][/quote]And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.[/p][/quote]The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO! Stone Island:

12:21am Sun 15 Dec 13

Victor.meldrew says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
I look at like this, you have a good local pub, been run well for year, good pint of beer at a good price, good crowd of people and a good atmosphere, You had pride and thought nothing of spending you hard earned wage there at weekends and sometimes midweek. Then your local pub is taken over, they change the way the pub is run over night to there way, many objections, but no! we own it now, we will run it are way. They promise you fat boy slim and Chris Moyle's as DJ signings E.g. David Beckham and Ronaldinho!!! Then the beers flat, people start falling over with each other, the landlord leaves for a pub in Manchester, the pub falls in to debt and the best assets are sold. This pub would have been shut down while we were still in the premier league!!! SO would you Angry from Accrington still keep going to this local pub, just because it is your local pub, spending your money there, Just because its your LOCAL, we must SUPPORT our LOCAL pub!!!! I don't think so!!!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]I look at like this, you have a good local pub, been run well for year, good pint of beer at a good price, good crowd of people and a good atmosphere, You had pride and thought nothing of spending you hard earned wage there at weekends and sometimes midweek. Then your local pub is taken over, they change the way the pub is run over night to there way, many objections, but no! we own it now, we will run it are way. They promise you fat boy slim and Chris Moyle's as DJ signings E.g. David Beckham and Ronaldinho!!! Then the beers flat, people start falling over with each other, the landlord leaves for a pub in Manchester, the pub falls in to debt and the best assets are sold. This pub would have been shut down while we were still in the premier league!!! SO would you Angry from Accrington still keep going to this local pub, just because it is your local pub, spending your money there, Just because its your LOCAL, we must SUPPORT our LOCAL pub!!!! I don't think so!!! Victor.meldrew

1:20am Sun 15 Dec 13

azza234 says...

Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO!
And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.
The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO!
Put it another way the stay aways well some said they wouldn't step foot back in ewood till steve kean left he's long gone and where are them fan's? and the ones who hate venky's some fan's even said they wont step foot back in ewood till venky's have gone and the rest said even if venky's did 1 they still wouldnt so why is that then? since im out of idea's there either glory hunters or just never supported blackburn i started supporting rovers not long before jack walker came and i will no matter what league we are in or who owns the club or who the manager is.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO![/p][/quote]And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.[/p][/quote]The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO![/p][/quote]Put it another way the stay aways well some said they wouldn't step foot back in ewood till steve kean left he's long gone and where are them fan's? and the ones who hate venky's some fan's even said they wont step foot back in ewood till venky's have gone and the rest said even if venky's did 1 they still wouldnt so why is that then? since im out of idea's there either glory hunters or just never supported blackburn i started supporting rovers not long before jack walker came and i will no matter what league we are in or who owns the club or who the manager is. azza234

7:01am Sun 15 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Victor.meldrew wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
I look at like this, you have a good local pub, been run well for year, good pint of beer at a good price, good crowd of people and a good atmosphere, You had pride and thought nothing of spending you hard earned wage there at weekends and sometimes midweek. Then your local pub is taken over, they change the way the pub is run over night to there way, many objections, but no! we own it now, we will run it are way. They promise you fat boy slim and Chris Moyle's as DJ signings E.g. David Beckham and Ronaldinho!!! Then the beers flat, people start falling over with each other, the landlord leaves for a pub in Manchester, the pub falls in to debt and the best assets are sold. This pub would have been shut down while we were still in the premier league!!! SO would you Angry from Accrington still keep going to this local pub, just because it is your local pub, spending your money there, Just because its your LOCAL, we must SUPPORT our LOCAL pub!!!! I don't think so!!!
Eventually the new owners realise the pub business is harder than they thought, they can't sell a rundown pub and are loosing money. So they ask the staff to meet them. The guy who's been working as a barman for years, who knows the people and how to pull a pint, tells them what he would do and they put him in charge.
He replaces the cheap foreign staff with young locals and hires local bands and takes on a few unknown guest beers. After a while the moaning stops because although they run out of crisps now and then, and the heating is a bit dodgy it's starting to feel like the old place again.
The regulars tell their friends that things have got better and some nights it's a good session, but sadly there are a lot of folk who have just got used to sitting at home with the radio, supping cheap lager from Tesco and complaining about how there's nowhere decent to go these days. They will tell you about when the local used to be packed every night but they won't be going back, not until they can stand at the bar, with a pint of mild, a copy of the sports pink and smoking a woodbine. Good luck with that Victor, and thanks for the analogy.
[quote][p][bold]Victor.meldrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]I look at like this, you have a good local pub, been run well for year, good pint of beer at a good price, good crowd of people and a good atmosphere, You had pride and thought nothing of spending you hard earned wage there at weekends and sometimes midweek. Then your local pub is taken over, they change the way the pub is run over night to there way, many objections, but no! we own it now, we will run it are way. They promise you fat boy slim and Chris Moyle's as DJ signings E.g. David Beckham and Ronaldinho!!! Then the beers flat, people start falling over with each other, the landlord leaves for a pub in Manchester, the pub falls in to debt and the best assets are sold. This pub would have been shut down while we were still in the premier league!!! SO would you Angry from Accrington still keep going to this local pub, just because it is your local pub, spending your money there, Just because its your LOCAL, we must SUPPORT our LOCAL pub!!!! I don't think so!!![/p][/quote]Eventually the new owners realise the pub business is harder than they thought, they can't sell a rundown pub and are loosing money. So they ask the staff to meet them. The guy who's been working as a barman for years, who knows the people and how to pull a pint, tells them what he would do and they put him in charge. He replaces the cheap foreign staff with young locals and hires local bands and takes on a few unknown guest beers. After a while the moaning stops because although they run out of crisps now and then, and the heating is a bit dodgy it's starting to feel like the old place again. The regulars tell their friends that things have got better and some nights it's a good session, but sadly there are a lot of folk who have just got used to sitting at home with the radio, supping cheap lager from Tesco and complaining about how there's nowhere decent to go these days. They will tell you about when the local used to be packed every night but they won't be going back, not until they can stand at the bar, with a pint of mild, a copy of the sports pink and smoking a woodbine. Good luck with that Victor, and thanks for the analogy. greenscreener

9:10am Sun 15 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Victor.meldrew wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
I look at like this, you have a good local pub, been run well for year, good pint of beer at a good price, good crowd of people and a good atmosphere, You had pride and thought nothing of spending you hard earned wage there at weekends and sometimes midweek. Then your local pub is taken over, they change the way the pub is run over night to there way, many objections, but no! we own it now, we will run it are way. They promise you fat boy slim and Chris Moyle's as DJ signings E.g. David Beckham and Ronaldinho!!! Then the beers flat, people start falling over with each other, the landlord leaves for a pub in Manchester, the pub falls in to debt and the best assets are sold. This pub would have been shut down while we were still in the premier league!!! SO would you Angry from Accrington still keep going to this local pub, just because it is your local pub, spending your money there, Just because its your LOCAL, we must SUPPORT our LOCAL pub!!!! I don't think so!!!
You can choose your pub, you can choose your ale, you can choose your friends but you can't choose your football club!
[quote][p][bold]Victor.meldrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]I look at like this, you have a good local pub, been run well for year, good pint of beer at a good price, good crowd of people and a good atmosphere, You had pride and thought nothing of spending you hard earned wage there at weekends and sometimes midweek. Then your local pub is taken over, they change the way the pub is run over night to there way, many objections, but no! we own it now, we will run it are way. They promise you fat boy slim and Chris Moyle's as DJ signings E.g. David Beckham and Ronaldinho!!! Then the beers flat, people start falling over with each other, the landlord leaves for a pub in Manchester, the pub falls in to debt and the best assets are sold. This pub would have been shut down while we were still in the premier league!!! SO would you Angry from Accrington still keep going to this local pub, just because it is your local pub, spending your money there, Just because its your LOCAL, we must SUPPORT our LOCAL pub!!!! I don't think so!!![/p][/quote]You can choose your pub, you can choose your ale, you can choose your friends but you can't choose your football club! Angry From Accrington

9:49am Sun 15 Dec 13

baldie says...

azza234 wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO!
And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.
The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO!
Put it another way the stay aways well some said they wouldn't step foot back in ewood till steve kean left he's long gone and where are them fan's? and the ones who hate venky's some fan's even said they wont step foot back in ewood till venky's have gone and the rest said even if venky's did 1 they still wouldnt so why is that then? since im out of idea's there either glory hunters or just never supported blackburn i started supporting rovers not long before jack walker came and i will no matter what league we are in or who owns the club or who the manager is.
Stone Island,Lancs p and a few others on here originally began to boycott during the penultimate season in the prem.
They didn't attend during the final season of the prem.
They,in my opinion,are the true protestors and I have always taken my hat off to them.
For that final Premiership season,Kean was manager and Venky's were in charge.Everyone knew it but the majority continued to turn up.
For me it's quite simple.The ones who stopped going after relegation were definitely influenced by the club not being in the Premiership.
[quote][p][bold]azza234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO![/p][/quote]And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.[/p][/quote]The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO![/p][/quote]Put it another way the stay aways well some said they wouldn't step foot back in ewood till steve kean left he's long gone and where are them fan's? and the ones who hate venky's some fan's even said they wont step foot back in ewood till venky's have gone and the rest said even if venky's did 1 they still wouldnt so why is that then? since im out of idea's there either glory hunters or just never supported blackburn i started supporting rovers not long before jack walker came and i will no matter what league we are in or who owns the club or who the manager is.[/p][/quote]Stone Island,Lancs p and a few others on here originally began to boycott during the penultimate season in the prem. They didn't attend during the final season of the prem. They,in my opinion,are the true protestors and I have always taken my hat off to them. For that final Premiership season,Kean was manager and Venky's were in charge.Everyone knew it but the majority continued to turn up. For me it's quite simple.The ones who stopped going after relegation were definitely influenced by the club not being in the Premiership. baldie

11:14am Sun 15 Dec 13

Whydidtheybanme? says...

Is it just me, or did anyone else think Gestede looked totally dis-interested when he came on?
Is it just me, or did anyone else think Gestede looked totally dis-interested when he came on? Whydidtheybanme?

11:40am Sun 15 Dec 13

john byrom says...

A Darener wrote:
Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Early Christmas present from Skysports for all Rovers fans.
Pray tell what and why.????
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Early Christmas present from Skysports for all Rovers fans.[/p][/quote]Pray tell what and why.???? john byrom

11:42am Sun 15 Dec 13

john byrom says...

Tatts wrote:
Sam-the-Man wrote:
Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy!
Good spot! What a treat! At 6am, there's also highlights from the 4-1 thrashing of Bolton from that same season.
Why do that you can watch it over and over on you tube . Great.
[quote][p][bold]Tatts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: Set your Sky box to record at 06:15 am on Friday and enjoy![/p][/quote]Good spot! What a treat! At 6am, there's also highlights from the 4-1 thrashing of Bolton from that same season.[/p][/quote]Why do that you can watch it over and over on you tube . Great. john byrom

11:46am Sun 15 Dec 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others. Is Eckersley playing?

11:56am Sun 15 Dec 13

J.C - Rishton says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott. J.C - Rishton

12:01pm Sun 15 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley. greenscreener

12:03pm Sun 15 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Whydidtheybanme? wrote:
Is it just me, or did anyone else think Gestede looked totally dis-interested when he came on?
Dunnie certainly noticed, gave him a right mouthful for not competing for a that header when he came on, he then started to make an effort.
[quote][p][bold]Whydidtheybanme?[/bold] wrote: Is it just me, or did anyone else think Gestede looked totally dis-interested when he came on?[/p][/quote]Dunnie certainly noticed, gave him a right mouthful for not competing for a that header when he came on, he then started to make an effort. greenscreener

12:03pm Sun 15 Dec 13

A Darener says...

JC.......well put. Live and let live.
We all have the Rovers best interests at heart.
No holier than thou.
JC.......well put. Live and let live. We all have the Rovers best interests at heart. No holier than thou. A Darener

12:20pm Sun 15 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

A Darener wrote:
JC.......well put. Live and let live.
We all have the Rovers best interests at heart.
No holier than thou.
It's a fair point, and well made by JC, ( whose initials certainly are holier than most). Pity that only one side of the debate seems interested in, and capable of, discussing the football.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: JC.......well put. Live and let live. We all have the Rovers best interests at heart. No holier than thou.[/p][/quote]It's a fair point, and well made by JC, ( whose initials certainly are holier than most). Pity that only one side of the debate seems interested in, and capable of, discussing the football. greenscreener

12:21pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
And that's a big. Bah Humbug from both of the.
Scrooge twins to you GS....
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]And that's a big. Bah Humbug from both of the. Scrooge twins to you GS.... Wild Rover

12:24pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too. Is Eckersley playing?

1:11pm Sun 15 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too.
Sitting in the wings making notes ? ! Jeez, I thought Dave was the sad one.

Seriously, why not stop wondering what's going on and go find out for yourself, get a life mate.
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too.[/p][/quote]Sitting in the wings making notes ? ! Jeez, I thought Dave was the sad one. Seriously, why not stop wondering what's going on and go find out for yourself, get a life mate. greenscreener

1:13pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Riverside 7 says...

This was another home game that we could not afford to lose if we were to keep in touch with the top six.
Thankfully we won to keep us in touch but we made rather heavy weather of it against a poor Millwall side.

Yes the conditions were difficult but they are the same for both sides and should not be used as an excuse for a poor overall performance.

I thought Marshall had his best game for us to date and that he gave us alot more than Willamson going forward.
The 4 1 4 1 formation also allowed Cairney to play in the centre of midfield.

The only other issue I wanted to raise was the performance of Gestede after he was brought on as a sub in the 86 minute
He had spent a large part of the match (and also at half-time) waming up, yet when he came on he didn't seem to be interested until Dunny had some strong words with him.

I understand we have him on loan until the end of December so he has 3 more games to impress. However, he has only been on the pitch for 7 minutes in 2 substitute appearances.
Does that mean Gestede is not the man to play alongside Rhodes?
This was another home game that we could not afford to lose if we were to keep in touch with the top six. Thankfully we won to keep us in touch but we made rather heavy weather of it against a poor Millwall side. Yes the conditions were difficult but they are the same for both sides and should not be used as an excuse for a poor overall performance. I thought Marshall had his best game for us to date and that he gave us alot more than Willamson going forward. The 4 1 4 1 formation also allowed Cairney to play in the centre of midfield. The only other issue I wanted to raise was the performance of Gestede after he was brought on as a sub in the 86 minute He had spent a large part of the match (and also at half-time) waming up, yet when he came on he didn't seem to be interested until Dunny had some strong words with him. I understand we have him on loan until the end of December so he has 3 more games to impress. However, he has only been on the pitch for 7 minutes in 2 substitute appearances. Does that mean Gestede is not the man to play alongside Rhodes? Riverside 7

1:28pm Sun 15 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
This was another home game that we could not afford to lose if we were to keep in touch with the top six.
Thankfully we won to keep us in touch but we made rather heavy weather of it against a poor Millwall side.

Yes the conditions were difficult but they are the same for both sides and should not be used as an excuse for a poor overall performance.

I thought Marshall had his best game for us to date and that he gave us alot more than Willamson going forward.
The 4 1 4 1 formation also allowed Cairney to play in the centre of midfield.

The only other issue I wanted to raise was the performance of Gestede after he was brought on as a sub in the 86 minute
He had spent a large part of the match (and also at half-time) waming up, yet when he came on he didn't seem to be interested until Dunny had some strong words with him.

I understand we have him on loan until the end of December so he has 3 more games to impress. However, he has only been on the pitch for 7 minutes in 2 substitute appearances.
Does that mean Gestede is not the man to play alongside Rhodes?
It's clear that GB is looking at Gestade as a target man to sub for Rhodes, not the big partner many have been asking for.

Don't normally disagree with you R7 but as I said earlier, bad weather helps when your tactics are primarily disruptive, not when you want to play football, it's just a fact, so not really the same for both sides yesterday and not an easy excuse.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: This was another home game that we could not afford to lose if we were to keep in touch with the top six. Thankfully we won to keep us in touch but we made rather heavy weather of it against a poor Millwall side. Yes the conditions were difficult but they are the same for both sides and should not be used as an excuse for a poor overall performance. I thought Marshall had his best game for us to date and that he gave us alot more than Willamson going forward. The 4 1 4 1 formation also allowed Cairney to play in the centre of midfield. The only other issue I wanted to raise was the performance of Gestede after he was brought on as a sub in the 86 minute He had spent a large part of the match (and also at half-time) waming up, yet when he came on he didn't seem to be interested until Dunny had some strong words with him. I understand we have him on loan until the end of December so he has 3 more games to impress. However, he has only been on the pitch for 7 minutes in 2 substitute appearances. Does that mean Gestede is not the man to play alongside Rhodes?[/p][/quote]It's clear that GB is looking at Gestade as a target man to sub for Rhodes, not the big partner many have been asking for. Don't normally disagree with you R7 but as I said earlier, bad weather helps when your tactics are primarily disruptive, not when you want to play football, it's just a fact, so not really the same for both sides yesterday and not an easy excuse. greenscreener

2:17pm Sun 15 Dec 13

flowersorseaman? says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
whilst our support is pitiful and embarrassing, it does beggar belief that a relatively literate dingle would use this as some kind of provocation tool.

Whatever your stance on the club's administration it is fair to say that Rovers fan base going into this season was at its lowest ebb, both on footfall and morale. So lets compare that to a Burnley side that are flying high, riding the crest of a short lived wave who amassed a total of 11.5k for their home game against fellow Yorkshiremen Barsley. Despite Millwall bringing 30 fans we still managed a 10% higher gate. That's the unbearable truth for the dingles even a wounded, bedraggled, downtrodden Rovers is a bigger pull than their World Cup winning squad will ever be. Rovers are turning the corner, we've been down for long enough, the rise from the ashes has begun. That gulf is only going to grow dingle.
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]whilst our support is pitiful and embarrassing, it does beggar belief that a relatively literate dingle would use this as some kind of provocation tool. Whatever your stance on the club's administration it is fair to say that Rovers fan base going into this season was at its lowest ebb, both on footfall and morale. So lets compare that to a Burnley side that are flying high, riding the crest of a short lived wave who amassed a total of 11.5k for their home game against fellow Yorkshiremen Barsley. Despite Millwall bringing 30 fans we still managed a 10% higher gate. That's the unbearable truth for the dingles even a wounded, bedraggled, downtrodden Rovers is a bigger pull than their World Cup winning squad will ever be. Rovers are turning the corner, we've been down for long enough, the rise from the ashes has begun. That gulf is only going to grow dingle. flowersorseaman?

2:22pm Sun 15 Dec 13

kazluvsrovers says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too.
With respect IEP If (and I'm not saying we will) but if we should get a win at Yeovil and a win on boxing day we will be up there challenging for the play offs so I'm not saying never just yet, I went to the game yesterday and although at times we were sloppy I still think GB is getting a decent side together, Marshall was more confident and Eastwood IMO is better than Kean.
bringing Dunny on for the last 20 minutes should happen every game as he seems to inspire the players, Rhodes and cairney both had a decent game, I just think Rochina should get the chance to prove himself again even if its just for the last 15 minutes or so.
When Millwall played at Ewood last season they were easily the better team but yesterday we edged it.
Onwards and Upwards!!!
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too.[/p][/quote]With respect IEP If (and I'm not saying we will) but if we should get a win at Yeovil and a win on boxing day we will be up there challenging for the play offs so I'm not saying never just yet, I went to the game yesterday and although at times we were sloppy I still think GB is getting a decent side together, Marshall was more confident and Eastwood IMO is better than Kean. bringing Dunny on for the last 20 minutes should happen every game as he seems to inspire the players, Rhodes and cairney both had a decent game, I just think Rochina should get the chance to prove himself again even if its just for the last 15 minutes or so. When Millwall played at Ewood last season they were easily the better team but yesterday we edged it. Onwards and Upwards!!! kazluvsrovers

2:51pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter. Angry From Accrington

3:28pm Sun 15 Dec 13

baldie says...

greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
I'll bet they've never been seen in the same room together.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]I'll bet they've never been seen in the same room together. baldie

3:38pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

baldie wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
I'll bet they've never been seen in the same room together.
And what, pray, has that got to do with it? It would have to be a bloody big room to fit in the 10,000 or so fans that agree with DD and me and no longer grace the stands of Ewood because we refuse to support Venkys and give them money.
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]I'll bet they've never been seen in the same room together.[/p][/quote]And what, pray, has that got to do with it? It would have to be a bloody big room to fit in the 10,000 or so fans that agree with DD and me and no longer grace the stands of Ewood because we refuse to support Venkys and give them money. Is Eckersley playing?

4:10pm Sun 15 Dec 13

KChallenger says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]agree 100% KChallenger

4:23pm Sun 15 Dec 13

baldie says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
baldie wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
I'll bet they've never been seen in the same room together.
And what, pray, has that got to do with it? It would have to be a bloody big room to fit in the 10,000 or so fans that agree with DD and me and no longer grace the stands of Ewood because we refuse to support Venkys and give them money.
a,you've missed the joke completely
b,the majority of the supposed 10,000 carried on going for the last prem season,so Venky's have nothing to do with it.
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]I'll bet they've never been seen in the same room together.[/p][/quote]And what, pray, has that got to do with it? It would have to be a bloody big room to fit in the 10,000 or so fans that agree with DD and me and no longer grace the stands of Ewood because we refuse to support Venkys and give them money.[/p][/quote]a,you've missed the joke completely b,the majority of the supposed 10,000 carried on going for the last prem season,so Venky's have nothing to do with it. baldie

5:02pm Sun 15 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really?
Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764
Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253
Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740
Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976

http://ewoodpark.jim



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verage-attendances-1



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VSO!
And that proves what exactly?

Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps?

You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are?

I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz.

The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they?

So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.
The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago.

VSO!
Well I honestly respect your principles Stone Island, but at the end of the day principles don't pay the rent do they?

Simple question you should be asking yourself.

Who is suffering here, you or Venky's?

Points to consider

- Venky's are billionaires.
- they probably make or loose more money daily dependent on capital or share investments than they have spent so far on Rovers.
- are they actually aware of your stance?
- are they aware that you, or for that matter, I actually exist?

As for them being "unscrupulous", well I would have to say from what I have personally experienced so far I would call them;

- stupid, for taking on something they had no understanding of whatsoever.
- stupid for listening to charlatans who have taken them and the club for a ride.
- stupid, for putting someone like Steve Kean in charge when there were far better options available.
- ignorant, for not listening to experienced people like John Williams.
- ignorant for failing to even attempt to communicate with the fans.

etc; etc.

But unscrupulous? Well they still appear to be willing to finance the club and take the financial hits, including the money they initially invested to take us over that must be close to £100 million by now, possibly more.

Something is stopping them walking away, in their position considering the hatred and abuse they have received I would have walked away long ago, what about you?

I am not defending them, I am simply asking why.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO![/p][/quote]And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.[/p][/quote]The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO![/p][/quote]Well I honestly respect your principles Stone Island, but at the end of the day principles don't pay the rent do they? Simple question you should be asking yourself. Who is suffering here, you or Venky's? Points to consider - Venky's are billionaires. - they probably make or loose more money daily dependent on capital or share investments than they have spent so far on Rovers. - are they actually aware of your stance? - are they aware that you, or for that matter, I actually exist? As for them being "unscrupulous", well I would have to say from what I have personally experienced so far I would call them; - stupid, for taking on something they had no understanding of whatsoever. - stupid for listening to charlatans who have taken them and the club for a ride. - stupid, for putting someone like Steve Kean in charge when there were far better options available. - ignorant, for not listening to experienced people like John Williams. - ignorant for failing to even attempt to communicate with the fans. etc; etc. But unscrupulous? Well they still appear to be willing to finance the club and take the financial hits, including the money they initially invested to take us over that must be close to £100 million by now, possibly more. Something is stopping them walking away, in their position considering the hatred and abuse they have received I would have walked away long ago, what about you? I am not defending them, I am simply asking why. owd nick

5:12pm Sun 15 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave

6:59pm Sun 15 Dec 13

J.C - Rishton says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
Hi Mr Angry

You are right, currently I am not going to games but not because I am "boycotting" but because I am living and working in Spain.

However all my friends are still ST holders and I do not have a problem with that - whether I would have renewed after 30 yrs - I don't honestly know because I was planning my move to Spain for more than a year before we left so I was never going to renew, no matter what the situation with the club but when I go back I have no problem paying and watching a game - so if this makes me a stayaway/ex-supporte
r which you think gives you the right to slagg off then so be it.

Hopefully, living in Spain will not make me any less of a supporter and any less for the right to my views - any more or less than when I went home and away year in year out.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]Hi Mr Angry You are right, currently I am not going to games but not because I am "boycotting" but because I am living and working in Spain. However all my friends are still ST holders and I do not have a problem with that - whether I would have renewed after 30 yrs - I don't honestly know because I was planning my move to Spain for more than a year before we left so I was never going to renew, no matter what the situation with the club but when I go back I have no problem paying and watching a game - so if this makes me a stayaway/ex-supporte r which you think gives you the right to slagg off then so be it. Hopefully, living in Spain will not make me any less of a supporter and any less for the right to my views - any more or less than when I went home and away year in year out. J.C - Rishton

7:55pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
Hi Mr Angry

You are right, currently I am not going to games but not because I am "boycotting" but because I am living and working in Spain.

However all my friends are still ST holders and I do not have a problem with that - whether I would have renewed after 30 yrs - I don't honestly know because I was planning my move to Spain for more than a year before we left so I was never going to renew, no matter what the situation with the club but when I go back I have no problem paying and watching a game - so if this makes me a stayaway/ex-supporte

r which you think gives you the right to slagg off then so be it.

Hopefully, living in Spain will not make me any less of a supporter and any less for the right to my views - any more or less than when I went home and away year in year out.
Juan Carlos: You are excused.............
but Dangerous Dick is still a total and utter arse. I can't believe that such an illiterate and dimwitted loon has the gall to question my spelling and grammar! Enjoy your new life. You are welcome back to Ewood anytime.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]Hi Mr Angry You are right, currently I am not going to games but not because I am "boycotting" but because I am living and working in Spain. However all my friends are still ST holders and I do not have a problem with that - whether I would have renewed after 30 yrs - I don't honestly know because I was planning my move to Spain for more than a year before we left so I was never going to renew, no matter what the situation with the club but when I go back I have no problem paying and watching a game - so if this makes me a stayaway/ex-supporte r which you think gives you the right to slagg off then so be it. Hopefully, living in Spain will not make me any less of a supporter and any less for the right to my views - any more or less than when I went home and away year in year out.[/p][/quote]Juan Carlos: You are excused............. but Dangerous Dick is still a total and utter arse. I can't believe that such an illiterate and dimwitted loon has the gall to question my spelling and grammar! Enjoy your new life. You are welcome back to Ewood anytime. Angry From Accrington

7:59pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow. Angry From Accrington

8:45pm Sun 15 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid. greenscreener

1:47am Mon 16 Dec 13

azza234 says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
But you have to put blame on who sold us to venky's aswell not just venky's at the end of the day they didn't have to sell to them and everything what they did wrong they should fix which it looks like some1 is slowly fixing it.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]But you have to put blame on who sold us to venky's aswell not just venky's at the end of the day they didn't have to sell to them and everything what they did wrong they should fix which it looks like some1 is slowly fixing it. azza234

2:16am Mon 16 Dec 13

azza234 says...

greenscreener wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid.
His problem is he can dish it out but he can't take it u get call a prat idiot tosser or what ever he's learned to spell on the day and if he is a rovers fan he has a funny way of showing it he moans when they lose he moans when the team wins even if its 5.1 4.2 or what ever the score is if we won 5.0 but they missed 2 passes in the game totally unacceptable out with the lot of them ect u know the drill by now he still wont go if venky's left tmoz that's the truth because he will find another reason to still not go or support the team like the grounds keeper is to old or the grass is 3 inches to long or something.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid.[/p][/quote]His problem is he can dish it out but he can't take it u get call a prat idiot tosser or what ever he's learned to spell on the day and if he is a rovers fan he has a funny way of showing it he moans when they lose he moans when the team wins even if its 5.1 4.2 or what ever the score is if we won 5.0 but they missed 2 passes in the game totally unacceptable out with the lot of them ect u know the drill by now he still wont go if venky's left tmoz that's the truth because he will find another reason to still not go or support the team like the grounds keeper is to old or the grass is 3 inches to long or something. azza234

2:18am Mon 16 Dec 13

azza234 says...

azza234 wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid.
His problem is he can dish it out but he can't take it u get call a prat idiot tosser or what ever he's learned to spell on the day and if he is a rovers fan he has a funny way of showing it he moans when they lose he moans when the team wins even if its 5.1 4.2 or what ever the score is if we won 5.0 but they missed 2 passes in the game totally unacceptable out with the lot of them ect u know the drill by now he still wont go if venky's left tmoz that's the truth because he will find another reason to still not go or support the team like the grounds keeper is to old or the grass is 3 inches to long or something.
And if he does go after venky's leave i have the balls to admit im wrong unlike him.
[quote][p][bold]azza234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid.[/p][/quote]His problem is he can dish it out but he can't take it u get call a prat idiot tosser or what ever he's learned to spell on the day and if he is a rovers fan he has a funny way of showing it he moans when they lose he moans when the team wins even if its 5.1 4.2 or what ever the score is if we won 5.0 but they missed 2 passes in the game totally unacceptable out with the lot of them ect u know the drill by now he still wont go if venky's left tmoz that's the truth because he will find another reason to still not go or support the team like the grounds keeper is to old or the grass is 3 inches to long or something.[/p][/quote]And if he does go after venky's leave i have the balls to admit im wrong unlike him. azza234

8:48am Mon 16 Dec 13

GAZHAY says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
Here here.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]Here here. GAZHAY

8:50am Mon 16 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

azza234 wrote:
azza234 wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid.
His problem is he can dish it out but he can't take it u get call a prat idiot tosser or what ever he's learned to spell on the day and if he is a rovers fan he has a funny way of showing it he moans when they lose he moans when the team wins even if its 5.1 4.2 or what ever the score is if we won 5.0 but they missed 2 passes in the game totally unacceptable out with the lot of them ect u know the drill by now he still wont go if venky's left tmoz that's the truth because he will find another reason to still not go or support the team like the grounds keeper is to old or the grass is 3 inches to long or something.
And if he does go after venky's leave i have the balls to admit im wrong unlike him.
Not much danger of that happening. I doubt he has ever been to a match in his life so he is not going to start now. His worst nightmare would be Rovers getting promoted and bought out by a Blackburn based billionaire. Being the clairvoyant that I am, I confidently predict that Diddy David and his carer are more likely to make a return appearance on the Jeremy Kyle show than the Riverside.
[quote][p][bold]azza234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]azza234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Someone displaying such poor punctuation and grammar should not really be commenting on another poster's spelling but I guess that's all we expect from you, Dangerous Dave. You are always happy to give out the criticism and remain oblivious to the fact that you just make yourself look stupid.[/p][/quote]His problem is he can dish it out but he can't take it u get call a prat idiot tosser or what ever he's learned to spell on the day and if he is a rovers fan he has a funny way of showing it he moans when they lose he moans when the team wins even if its 5.1 4.2 or what ever the score is if we won 5.0 but they missed 2 passes in the game totally unacceptable out with the lot of them ect u know the drill by now he still wont go if venky's left tmoz that's the truth because he will find another reason to still not go or support the team like the grounds keeper is to old or the grass is 3 inches to long or something.[/p][/quote]And if he does go after venky's leave i have the balls to admit im wrong unlike him.[/p][/quote]Not much danger of that happening. I doubt he has ever been to a match in his life so he is not going to start now. His worst nightmare would be Rovers getting promoted and bought out by a Blackburn based billionaire. Being the clairvoyant that I am, I confidently predict that Diddy David and his carer are more likely to make a return appearance on the Jeremy Kyle show than the Riverside. Angry From Accrington

9:21am Mon 16 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.[/p][/quote]dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave

9:36am Mon 16 Dec 13

Riverside 7 says...

baldie wrote:
azza234 wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO!
And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.
The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO!
Put it another way the stay aways well some said they wouldn't step foot back in ewood till steve kean left he's long gone and where are them fan's? and the ones who hate venky's some fan's even said they wont step foot back in ewood till venky's have gone and the rest said even if venky's did 1 they still wouldnt so why is that then? since im out of idea's there either glory hunters or just never supported blackburn i started supporting rovers not long before jack walker came and i will no matter what league we are in or who owns the club or who the manager is.
Stone Island,Lancs p and a few others on here originally began to boycott during the penultimate season in the prem.
They didn't attend during the final season of the prem.
They,in my opinion,are the true protestors and I have always taken my hat off to them.
For that final Premiership season,Kean was manager and Venky's were in charge.Everyone knew it but the majority continued to turn up.
For me it's quite simple.The ones who stopped going after relegation were definitely influenced by the club not being in the Premiership.
Venkys did not buy the club until Nov 2010, so If Stone island, Lancs Pensioner etc began their boycott in the penultimate season in the Premiership (that is the second from last season), they did not buy season tickets when Big Sam was still the boss and the Walker Trust were still the owners.
Remember we survived on the last day of that season with a win at Wolves.

However, most of the so-called boycotters on thi forum were still season ticket holders the year after (2011/12) and they simply bailed out after we were relagated.
How it must hurt them not to go to Ewood and rely on radio commentaries for their football.
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]azza234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]Oh really? Average attendance 1998-1999 (PL) 25,764 Average attendance 1999-2000 (L1) 19,253 Average attendance 2000-2001 (L1) 20,740 Average attendance 2001-2002 (PL) 25,976 http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/attendances-a verage-attendances-1 888-2013/ VSO![/p][/quote]And that proves what exactly? Just how many real Rovers fans there are perhaps? You know the ones, turn up in all weathers, like today and support their club irrespective of who owns us, who the manager is, who is playing for us what division we are in or even who our opponents are? I have been on Ewood in the 70's and 80's when the gates were around 9 or 10,000 on average and if you want to pick out PL attendances the seasons 92 to 94 only averaged around 16,000, albeit the ground was being rebuilt at the time, but stats and facts and all that jazz. The simple fact is the glory seekers only started taking an interest when Jack Walker chucked his millions into the club, they have never known any difference have they? So never really having any attachment they deserted the club in droves when the going got tough, just when the club needed them most.[/p][/quote]The point I'm trying to make Nick, is that not all the 'stayaways' are PL glory hunters. A lot of the absentees have principles, and are sticking to them. They refuse point blank to be taken for Toby's, by unscrupulous owners who have shown a total disrespect for all things Blackburn Rovers, since they rode into town three years ago. VSO![/p][/quote]Put it another way the stay aways well some said they wouldn't step foot back in ewood till steve kean left he's long gone and where are them fan's? and the ones who hate venky's some fan's even said they wont step foot back in ewood till venky's have gone and the rest said even if venky's did 1 they still wouldnt so why is that then? since im out of idea's there either glory hunters or just never supported blackburn i started supporting rovers not long before jack walker came and i will no matter what league we are in or who owns the club or who the manager is.[/p][/quote]Stone Island,Lancs p and a few others on here originally began to boycott during the penultimate season in the prem. They didn't attend during the final season of the prem. They,in my opinion,are the true protestors and I have always taken my hat off to them. For that final Premiership season,Kean was manager and Venky's were in charge.Everyone knew it but the majority continued to turn up. For me it's quite simple.The ones who stopped going after relegation were definitely influenced by the club not being in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]Venkys did not buy the club until Nov 2010, so If Stone island, Lancs Pensioner etc began their boycott in the penultimate season in the Premiership (that is the second from last season), they did not buy season tickets when Big Sam was still the boss and the Walker Trust were still the owners. Remember we survived on the last day of that season with a win at Wolves. However, most of the so-called boycotters on thi forum were still season ticket holders the year after (2011/12) and they simply bailed out after we were relagated. How it must hurt them not to go to Ewood and rely on radio commentaries for their football. Riverside 7

9:56am Mon 16 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.[/p][/quote]dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go. Angry From Accrington

9:56am Mon 16 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.[/p][/quote]dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go. Angry From Accrington

9:56am Mon 16 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.[/p][/quote]dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go. Angry From Accrington

10:04am Mon 16 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.
Apologies for the multiple post. On train to London and signal is poor. ( London, David, is a very big town in the south of England )
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.[/p][/quote]dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.[/p][/quote]Apologies for the multiple post. On train to London and signal is poor. ( London, David, is a very big town in the south of England ) Angry From Accrington

10:30am Mon 16 Dec 13

kfc yummy says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.
Apologies for the multiple post. On train to London and signal is poor. ( London, David, is a very big town in the south of England )
London is a city.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.[/p][/quote]dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.[/p][/quote]Apologies for the multiple post. On train to London and signal is poor. ( London, David, is a very big town in the south of England )[/p][/quote]London is a city. kfc yummy

11:02am Mon 16 Dec 13

owd nick says...

kfc yummy wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000?

The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right.

I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire!

VSO!
Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.
I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans".

You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club.

Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters?

You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to.

But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money.

What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ?

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light.

It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it.

We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.
Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up.
The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point.
Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters.
And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.
so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.
dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.
Apologies for the multiple post. On train to London and signal is poor. ( London, David, is a very big town in the south of England )
London is a city.
Dave doesn't understand the word city.
[quote][p][bold]kfc yummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]So if as you say, the real reason for the poor gates is the lack of PL glamour, as opposed to Venky's calamitous reign, then please explain why the last time we got relegated from the PL, we had an average gate of just under 20,000? The main reason why the gates are over 10,000 down from our PL days, is purely down to the vermin in India, and the UTTER CONTEMPT they have shown to the fans since their arrival. They haven't done ANYTHING right. I wouldn't p*** on them if they were on fire! VSO![/p][/quote]Who you p*** on is of no consequence to anybody and I am suspect that Venkys have their own fire fighters. We averaged nothing like 20,000 in the Championship and I guarantee that the missing 10,000 would be back if we got back into the Premiership under Venkys. The ones who would continue to stay away would be the financially challenged and the intellectually challenged like Dangerous Dick.[/p][/quote]I find it very surprising how obsessed you are with "stay away fans". You seem to be much happier slagging them off every day and defending Venkys than you do having a go at our owners who have RUINED our club. Why do you obsess so much about stay away supporters? You have decided to continue to go and support the team - fine, that is your decision, which you are fully entitled to. But so is the supporter who decides he dosent want to give Venkys any money. What about the Rovers supporter who now only goes to away games - should he be slagged off or congratuled ? Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we all see things in a different light. It might be nice for you (just for once) to come on here and slagg off Venkys - the people who DESERVE it - if they hadnt made such a fcuk up of our club you wouldnt even be having this "stay away supporter debate" - please remember that next time you come on here ranting away against fellow supporters who have decided to take the stance they had - sure some people stopped going because we got relagated (that happens at all clubs) but many longterm (pre Jack Walker days) fans do not go simply because they HATE our scum owners - you may not agree with their decision but you should accept their right to it. We are all Rovers fans but we are a divided club - this is a sad period in our clubs history and I personally think we can never be a complete club again until Venkys have left even if this takes years (and I havent said whether I am a stay away or not) - I just HATE our owners but I don't have a problem with fans that still go or fans that boycott.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I have consistently and emphatically criticised Venkys for their running of this club. If it makes you happy, I will do it again. Venkys, you have f**ked up. The difference between you and I is that I am still a supporter. You are not. I get Angry when you and your fellow turncoat come on here telling us that you are supporters when you are giving the team and the club absolutely no support whatsoever. You are, at best, interested observers and at worst you are armchair antagonists who delight in slagging the club off and revel in every dropped point. Of course fans who go to away games are supporters. If any are daft enough to support away but boycott at home they are simply cutting their nose off to spite their faces. So in answer to your question, I do not obsess about stay away supporters: I criticise those stairways who cone on here CLAIMING to be supporters. And for the avoidance of any doubt, I don't believe you do go to games and wonder why you won't come out as an ex supporter.[/p][/quote]so as well as being a 'clever dick' your a 'clairvoyant' as well knowing, which posters claim to be supporters and those who are not - with this power you might share with us mere mortals what the future holds for the 'cowboys and indians down at Ewood. - your latest post along with its spelling mistakes shows what a clown your are!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]David, you might aspire to be a mere mortal but there are a few evolutionary stages that you need to pass through yet. Fanks forr yorr spellin tipz thow.[/p][/quote]dont think your testicles have dropped yet!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Whereas you, dear David, tend to drop a testicle with every message you tap. Well done you though for giving it a good little go.[/p][/quote]Apologies for the multiple post. On train to London and signal is poor. ( London, David, is a very big town in the south of England )[/p][/quote]London is a city.[/p][/quote]Dave doesn't understand the word city. owd nick

11:10am Mon 16 Dec 13

Champagne plus charlie says...

Very entertaining reading these comments and seeing the Blackburn fans all arguing with each other.

The fact is all those numpties who are 'boycotting' because of Venkys are basically boycotting because they would rather be playing Arsenal than Yeovil - which is fine, but at least have the stones to admit it.

And for all those who want Venkys to go - have you any idea what would happen to BRFC if Venkys did pull out?

Deluded doesn't even come close.
Very entertaining reading these comments and seeing the Blackburn fans all arguing with each other. The fact is all those numpties who are 'boycotting' because of Venkys are basically boycotting because they would rather be playing Arsenal than Yeovil - which is fine, but at least have the stones to admit it. And for all those who want Venkys to go - have you any idea what would happen to BRFC if Venkys did pull out? Deluded doesn't even come close. Champagne plus charlie

11:17am Mon 16 Dec 13

A Darener says...

CpC...you have no idea why Rovers fans are boycotting. Yes there will be some that stopped going due to relegation just as some Burnley fans stopped when they were relegated. But most of the boycotters do not care which division the Rovers would be in if the Venky's left just that they were gone. It would be nice if we were still in the Championship or even the PL but is certainly not essential. What is essential is that they go!
CpC...you have no idea why Rovers fans are boycotting. Yes there will be some that stopped going due to relegation just as some Burnley fans stopped when they were relegated. But most of the boycotters do not care which division the Rovers would be in if the Venky's left just that they were gone. It would be nice if we were still in the Championship or even the PL but is certainly not essential. What is essential is that they go! A Darener

11:30am Mon 16 Dec 13

Champagne plus charlie says...

A Darener wrote:
CpC...you have no idea why Rovers fans are boycotting. Yes there will be some that stopped going due to relegation just as some Burnley fans stopped when they were relegated. But most of the boycotters do not care which division the Rovers would be in if the Venky's left just that they were gone. It would be nice if we were still in the Championship or even the PL but is certainly not essential. What is essential is that they go!
Fair enough, but lets be honest I would say 90% (And that is probably a conservative figure) of the stayaway fans are doing so because of the lack of Premier League football, but they are dressing it up as a protest in order to make themselves feel better - you have the cheapest Season Tickets in the league as well, and you can only get 12k fans through the door.

Also nobody has answered this: if the Venkys do pull out as most of you seem to want, what will happen next? Who wants to take on a club that is hemorrhaging money to the tune of £3 million per month and with a yearly net debt in excess of £50 million? Blackburn fans should really be careful what they wish for, because without Venkys spending £100 plus million on the club you really would be up **** creek.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: CpC...you have no idea why Rovers fans are boycotting. Yes there will be some that stopped going due to relegation just as some Burnley fans stopped when they were relegated. But most of the boycotters do not care which division the Rovers would be in if the Venky's left just that they were gone. It would be nice if we were still in the Championship or even the PL but is certainly not essential. What is essential is that they go![/p][/quote]Fair enough, but lets be honest I would say 90% (And that is probably a conservative figure) of the stayaway fans are doing so because of the lack of Premier League football, but they are dressing it up as a protest in order to make themselves feel better - you have the cheapest Season Tickets in the league as well, and you can only get 12k fans through the door. Also nobody has answered this: if the Venkys do pull out as most of you seem to want, what will happen next? Who wants to take on a club that is hemorrhaging money to the tune of £3 million per month and with a yearly net debt in excess of £50 million? Blackburn fans should really be careful what they wish for, because without Venkys spending £100 plus million on the club you really would be up **** creek. Champagne plus charlie

11:34am Mon 16 Dec 13

A Darener says...

How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.
How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time. A Darener

11:45am Mon 16 Dec 13

inflightmagazine says...

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11:57am Mon 16 Dec 13

Champagne plus charlie says...

A Darener wrote:
How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.
Quite simply.

You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around.

As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.[/p][/quote]Quite simply. You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around. As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'. Champagne plus charlie

11:59am Mon 16 Dec 13

inflightmagazine says...

The conditions were terrible for this game, Millwall came to try and get a point and never really looked like they were capable of winning the game. Personnaly I like the way we are playing as a team, in general this season we are combining well in midfield and the quality of play is much improved on last year. There are deficiencies in the side and a bit of naivety at times but I am much more positive about our chances of winning games this year than I was last year. Hats off to bowyer for dropping Kean and going with eastwood, hes been looking ropey for a few weeks now , eastwoods distribution is a lot better than keans and most of the people round me thought the millwall player took him out for their second goal.

On the attendance side I don't think there is a massive fluctuation in the home support compared to last year, but I do think the away support is up an down, cant have been much more than a couple of hundred millwall fans at the game.
The conditions were terrible for this game, Millwall came to try and get a point and never really looked like they were capable of winning the game. Personnaly I like the way we are playing as a team, in general this season we are combining well in midfield and the quality of play is much improved on last year. There are deficiencies in the side and a bit of naivety at times but I am much more positive about our chances of winning games this year than I was last year. Hats off to bowyer for dropping Kean and going with eastwood, hes been looking ropey for a few weeks now , eastwoods distribution is a lot better than keans and most of the people round me thought the millwall player took him out for their second goal. On the attendance side I don't think there is a massive fluctuation in the home support compared to last year, but I do think the away support is up an down, cant have been much more than a couple of hundred millwall fans at the game. inflightmagazine

12:16pm Mon 16 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Champagne plus charlie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.
Quite simply.

You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around.

As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'.
Your argument has some merit. But I would say that that means the Relegated team was not as strong as the previously relegated team. Due entirely to SK and the Venky's for their ridiculous buying regime both before and after relegation. Plus the appointment of Graham Sounness went a long way to dispelling concerns about the teams ability to regain top flight football. What did the Venky's do? They again appointed a series of untried and tested managers. I.e they did not learn from their mistakes.
[quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.[/p][/quote]Quite simply. You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around. As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'.[/p][/quote]Your argument has some merit. But I would say that that means the Relegated team was not as strong as the previously relegated team. Due entirely to SK and the Venky's for their ridiculous buying regime both before and after relegation. Plus the appointment of Graham Sounness went a long way to dispelling concerns about the teams ability to regain top flight football. What did the Venky's do? They again appointed a series of untried and tested managers. I.e they did not learn from their mistakes. A Darener

1:23pm Mon 16 Dec 13

hasslem hasslem says...

A Darener wrote:
Champagne plus charlie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.
Quite simply.

You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around.

As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'.
Your argument has some merit. But I would say that that means the Relegated team was not as strong as the previously relegated team. Due entirely to SK and the Venky's for their ridiculous buying regime both before and after relegation. Plus the appointment of Graham Sounness went a long way to dispelling concerns about the teams ability to regain top flight football. What did the Venky's do? They again appointed a series of untried and tested managers. I.e they did not learn from their mistakes.
we didn't go straight back up - remember we were in big trouble first season in d1 under kidd
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.[/p][/quote]Quite simply. You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around. As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'.[/p][/quote]Your argument has some merit. But I would say that that means the Relegated team was not as strong as the previously relegated team. Due entirely to SK and the Venky's for their ridiculous buying regime both before and after relegation. Plus the appointment of Graham Sounness went a long way to dispelling concerns about the teams ability to regain top flight football. What did the Venky's do? They again appointed a series of untried and tested managers. I.e they did not learn from their mistakes.[/p][/quote]we didn't go straight back up - remember we were in big trouble first season in d1 under kidd hasslem hasslem

1:28pm Mon 16 Dec 13

A Darener says...

Agreed HH"..that is why we need to be promoted this season to emulate GS's achievement.
Agreed HH"..that is why we need to be promoted this season to emulate GS's achievement. A Darener

5:22pm Mon 16 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Champagne plus charlie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.
Quite simply.

You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around.

As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'.
No we didn't go straight back up, please get you facts right before you start spouting tripe.

And if we were not good enough to compete at this level we would be cut adrift at the bottom, whether we are good enough to get promoted this year is debatable at present but you need to take one thing into consideration, we haven't had a decent run yet.
[quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.[/p][/quote]Quite simply. You had a side that gained promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt last time around. As soon as the Rovers fans realised that this squad was nowhere near good enough to even compete at this level, the supporters stopped attending - all under the convenient umbrella of a 'protest'.[/p][/quote]No we didn't go straight back up, please get you facts right before you start spouting tripe. And if we were not good enough to compete at this level we would be cut adrift at the bottom, whether we are good enough to get promoted this year is debatable at present but you need to take one thing into consideration, we haven't had a decent run yet. owd nick

8:37pm Mon 16 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

A Darener wrote:
How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.
you wont get any of these idiots answering this because they havent got an argument to counteract your post not even mr angry with his small testicles!!
You can lead a horse to the trough but you cant stop angry from accrington making an **** of himself!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.[/p][/quote]you wont get any of these idiots answering this because they havent got an argument to counteract your post not even mr angry with his small testicles!! You can lead a horse to the trough but you cant stop angry from accrington making an **** of himself!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave

10:00am Tue 17 Dec 13

roverstid says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!!
I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.
you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off.
There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you.
The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!!
Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome.
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.
Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks.

( ).( )

Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.
Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too.
.... and a happppy neewww yyyyeeaaar! (hic!)
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: A whole 12,643.....WOW !!!![/p][/quote]I don't normally respond to Dingles and I am certainly not rising to the bait because I agree that this attendance is shameful. The ex supporters on here should stop hiding behind the excuse of Venkys and just admit that they only want the glamour of the Premiership. We can all find better things to do with our time and money. We don't go down to Ewood for fun and entertainment, we go because we are loyal supporters, irrespective of who owns us and what division we are in. To be honest though, I would rather sit with 13,000 real supporters than 20,000 glitterballs.[/p][/quote]you really are a prat - the Rovers cant survive on gates of 11000 to 12000 no funds for quality players and no stability for the club off the field - long may it hurt the Venkys in their pocket hopefully in time it will see them off. There may well be some glitterballs out there but there are thousands of others who will return when the Venkys are gone whether in the Premiership or not - in the meantime for single minded individuals like you enjoy your half empty stadium and the company of other idiots with views like you. The Venkys have ruined this club and its them along with their second rate Board of Directors/Management that have got us into this mess not the stay away fans!! Its been a torrid week for the the Rovers and yet another hit and miss performance but the 3 points are welcome. OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Spot on. Venkys won't get one penny out of me...and thousands of others.[/p][/quote]Wondered where you were, It wouldn't be a complete @rse without both buttocks. ( ).( ) Happy Christmas to Dave and Eckersley.[/p][/quote]Don't wonder where I am pal. I'm sitting quietly in the wings noting people making themselves look slightly foolish discussing play-off hopes, the 'decent' players we have now (all laugh) and wondering If the 'football' being presently served up is exciting enough for madam! And a happy Christmas to you too.[/p][/quote].... and a happppy neewww yyyyeeaaar! (hic!) roverstid

3:52pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

dangerous dave wrote:
A Darener wrote:
How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.
you wont get any of these idiots answering this because they havent got an argument to counteract your post not even mr angry with his small testicles!!
You can lead a horse to the trough but you cant stop angry from accrington making an **** of himself!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
Actually David, I have unusually large testicles. So large in fact that I used to have to push them around in a wheel barrow. Now I have had them tattooed blue and white and sling them over my shoulder like a Rovers Rucksack. They are also highly effective and have been clinically proven to produce one hundred million sperm fishies per day. Each one of which has a brain significantly larger than yours. Many of these little sperm fishies, with their brains considerably larger than yours, will evolve into Blackburn Rovers supporters whereas you, if you are lucky,might evolve into Baboon. A very big and very stupid baboons with a tiny little brain.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: How do you explain the fact that last time we were relegated we still averaged 20000? Or certainly did not lose as many fans as this time.[/p][/quote]you wont get any of these idiots answering this because they havent got an argument to counteract your post not even mr angry with his small testicles!! You can lead a horse to the trough but you cant stop angry from accrington making an **** of himself!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS[/p][/quote]Actually David, I have unusually large testicles. So large in fact that I used to have to push them around in a wheel barrow. Now I have had them tattooed blue and white and sling them over my shoulder like a Rovers Rucksack. They are also highly effective and have been clinically proven to produce one hundred million sperm fishies per day. Each one of which has a brain significantly larger than yours. Many of these little sperm fishies, with their brains considerably larger than yours, will evolve into Blackburn Rovers supporters whereas you, if you are lucky,might evolve into Baboon. A very big and very stupid baboons with a tiny little brain. Angry From Accrington

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