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Dismal Rovers out-foxed

MICHAEL Appleton was left extremely disappointed with his side as they suffered a 3-0 Championship defeat away at Leicester City.

The dismal defeat at the King Power Stadium leaves Rovers seven points adrift of the Championship top six and without a win in four league games.

First half goals from Chris Wood and Harry Kane gave Nigel Pearson's Foxes a deserved 2-0 half time lead, as Rovers were made to look second best all over the pitch before Andy King headed a late third.

Rovers entertain struggling Peterborough knowing it will take a formidable run between now and the end of the season to close in on the top six.

“It was not great," said Rovers boss Appleton. "Leicester played ever so well. They made us work very hard from the start the most disappointing thing was the manner with which we conceded the goals.

"Hopefully we get a reaction. That is the biggest think we will be looking for on Saturday. At half time I said to the lads don’t get thumped by five or six. I said let’s make sure we don’t get beat in the second half and we wouldn’t have been had it not been for their 93rd minute goal."

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10:27pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Irish knowledge says...

"At half time I said to the lads don’t get thumped by five or six"

You have got to be joking me... its leicester city not barcelona. Also I hear Nunes is on his way in the summer, which is crazy because he might be the one player to help unlock defences. Anyway we all can see that Lowe, Pederson, and Murphy and prob Campbell are crap so maybe Appy will open his eyes sooner rather than later
"At half time I said to the lads don’t get thumped by five or six" You have got to be joking me... its leicester city not barcelona. Also I hear Nunes is on his way in the summer, which is crazy because he might be the one player to help unlock defences. Anyway we all can see that Lowe, Pederson, and Murphy and prob Campbell are crap so maybe Appy will open his eyes sooner rather than later Irish knowledge
  • Score: 30

10:36pm Tue 26 Feb 13

dallydally says...

We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee.
We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee. dallydally
  • Score: 32

10:37pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Rovers till I die says...

Sounds like the Hull game all over again , reality is we are not good enough to compete with the top five .

Without Kazim arguably our biggest threat to the opposition in the recent games we will struggle , dj Campbell anonymous again .

But every cloud , great result for Huddersfield keeps us above the
Faltering neighbours .
Sounds like the Hull game all over again , reality is we are not good enough to compete with the top five . Without Kazim arguably our biggest threat to the opposition in the recent games we will struggle , dj Campbell anonymous again . But every cloud , great result for Huddersfield keeps us above the Faltering neighbours . Rovers till I die
  • Score: 11

10:40pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment
But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -25

10:43pm Tue 26 Feb 13

CARover says...

The bubble has burst and I think we are doomed to one more year without PL football

You just cannot simply build a team towards the end of the season unless you are quietly building for next term

Disappointing loss but maybe this is reality of where we are with what we have
The bubble has burst and I think we are doomed to one more year without PL football You just cannot simply build a team towards the end of the season unless you are quietly building for next term Disappointing loss but maybe this is reality of where we are with what we have CARover
  • Score: 17

10:46pm Tue 26 Feb 13

happiness says...

The worst thing for me, and we've all known it for ages; the midfield is cripplingly woeful and needed sorting out when Appleton arrived but he failed to do so. Hence the lucky win against Ipswich, the draws against Brighton, easy defeat at Hull, awful bore-draw on sat and tonight's hammering!! He needs to get his team selection, motivation of players and negative tactics sorted for Saturday because we are at home to the worst team in the division and we have to win, not because I think we've still got a chance of the play-offs, we haven't; but because people have been through hell this last 2 and a half years and payed good money to go to Hull and Leicester to watch (in my opinion) the worst Rovers team in over 30 years....and they owe it to us!!!
The worst thing for me, and we've all known it for ages; the midfield is cripplingly woeful and needed sorting out when Appleton arrived but he failed to do so. Hence the lucky win against Ipswich, the draws against Brighton, easy defeat at Hull, awful bore-draw on sat and tonight's hammering!! He needs to get his team selection, motivation of players and negative tactics sorted for Saturday because we are at home to the worst team in the division and we have to win, not because I think we've still got a chance of the play-offs, we haven't; but because people have been through hell this last 2 and a half years and payed good money to go to Hull and Leicester to watch (in my opinion) the worst Rovers team in over 30 years....and they owe it to us!!! happiness
  • Score: 22

10:49pm Tue 26 Feb 13

hotpot8200 says...

great comments Appleton (not) why not rip into one or two of the players who are getting paid well over the odds to play for us and on paper are more than a match for those leicester players who played so well.No wonder you said lets not get beat 5 or 6 as you know as well as the fans down there it could of easily been that 1st half but to abit of luck and kean stopping em .And maybe one or two apologies to the fans spent £75 to watch that **** Appleton
DROP THAT MAIN OLD LOSER OF A TOSSER MURPHY come on Appleton are you a real manager have you got ambitions is`nt that the reason u came too the rovers well start toughening up Appleton and less admit it to the fans u may just get a little more respect.
great comments Appleton (not) why not rip into one or two of the players who are getting paid well over the odds to play for us and on paper are more than a match for those leicester players who played so well.No wonder you said lets not get beat 5 or 6 as you know as well as the fans down there it could of easily been that 1st half but to abit of luck and kean stopping em .And maybe one or two apologies to the fans spent £75 to watch that **** Appleton DROP THAT MAIN OLD LOSER OF A TOSSER MURPHY come on Appleton are you a real manager have you got ambitions is`nt that the reason u came too the rovers well start toughening up Appleton and less admit it to the fans u may just get a little more respect. hotpot8200
  • Score: 14

10:53pm Tue 26 Feb 13

hotpot8200 says...

plus u`ve ragged it by having bottom of the table next we`d see the true colour and a true reaction if it was a top championship team .lucky git
plus u`ve ragged it by having bottom of the table next we`d see the true colour and a true reaction if it was a top championship team .lucky git hotpot8200
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Tue 26 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!!
Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.
Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!! Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON. dangerous dave
  • Score: 0

10:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13

CaptainCaveman says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment
what an idiot
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment[/p][/quote]what an idiot CaptainCaveman
  • Score: 15

10:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13

flowersorseaman? says...

Irish knowledge wrote:
"At half time I said to the lads don’t get thumped by five or six"

You have got to be joking me... its leicester city not barcelona. Also I hear Nunes is on his way in the summer, which is crazy because he might be the one player to help unlock defences. Anyway we all can see that Lowe, Pederson, and Murphy and prob Campbell are crap so maybe Appy will open his eyes sooner rather than later
Tactically inept and not all the blame can be placed on the players. MGP always puts a shift in (regardless of form) but isn't quick enough to play on the wing, especially covering an inexperienced full back. Murphy is being made to look worse than he is by being pushed too deep with no options in front of him and Lowe needs an outlet either side of him as he is a lot more Keith Andrews than Tugay, but he can run. So if they are going to play then stick all three in the middle with wingers either side. Lowe can be the legs sitting deep and allow MGP and Murphy to play a little more advanced and thread balls to the wings or in behind oppositions back 4. I wouldn't play that formation but as there seems to be a rule in place that DM will play regardless of form/suitability/age then how else do you deal with it. Playing Campbell alongside Rhodes is an absolute farce. Why play 2 up top when we can't get any service to one? Oh yeah gamble on a mistake. **** fully off!
[quote][p][bold]Irish knowledge[/bold] wrote: "At half time I said to the lads don’t get thumped by five or six" You have got to be joking me... its leicester city not barcelona. Also I hear Nunes is on his way in the summer, which is crazy because he might be the one player to help unlock defences. Anyway we all can see that Lowe, Pederson, and Murphy and prob Campbell are crap so maybe Appy will open his eyes sooner rather than later[/p][/quote]Tactically inept and not all the blame can be placed on the players. MGP always puts a shift in (regardless of form) but isn't quick enough to play on the wing, especially covering an inexperienced full back. Murphy is being made to look worse than he is by being pushed too deep with no options in front of him and Lowe needs an outlet either side of him as he is a lot more Keith Andrews than Tugay, but he can run. So if they are going to play then stick all three in the middle with wingers either side. Lowe can be the legs sitting deep and allow MGP and Murphy to play a little more advanced and thread balls to the wings or in behind oppositions back 4. I wouldn't play that formation but as there seems to be a rule in place that DM will play regardless of form/suitability/age then how else do you deal with it. Playing Campbell alongside Rhodes is an absolute farce. Why play 2 up top when we can't get any service to one? Oh yeah gamble on a mistake. **** fully off! flowersorseaman?
  • Score: 10

10:56pm Tue 26 Feb 13

noddy57 says...

dallydally wrote:
We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee.
thats spot on,,we have been average all along and tonights result changes nothing,,we have been hyped up by the morons who think the rovers are a premiership side,,lm afraid that hasnt been the case for quite some time,listen this guy appleton only plays one way,,and its patently obviouse the way he sets out the team,,granted we have improved defencivly,,but the cost is much too high,the midfield is out of touch with the attack,,appleton will never get this team anywhere near the premiership and that is so patently obviouse to me and it should be to the rest of you,,wake up, murphy was abysmal pedersen too,,thats easy blaming those two,,in reality the whole bloody team tonight was a joke,,,,
[quote][p][bold]dallydally[/bold] wrote: We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]thats spot on,,we have been average all along and tonights result changes nothing,,we have been hyped up by the morons who think the rovers are a premiership side,,lm afraid that hasnt been the case for quite some time,listen this guy appleton only plays one way,,and its patently obviouse the way he sets out the team,,granted we have improved defencivly,,but the cost is much too high,the midfield is out of touch with the attack,,appleton will never get this team anywhere near the premiership and that is so patently obviouse to me and it should be to the rest of you,,wake up, murphy was abysmal pedersen too,,thats easy blaming those two,,in reality the whole bloody team tonight was a joke,,,, noddy57
  • Score: 15

10:57pm Tue 26 Feb 13

peely says...

This manager will never change - it's in his DNA , defend defend, nick the odd goal, result , he thinks he,s the new Mourinho ! Forget about the fans, forget wanting some attacking football, goals, it ain't gonna happen. Just look at him , his whole demeanour , if he smiled his face would crack . The guys a loser , he was appointed in good faith and he probably means well , but he,ll never be a success , and these overpaid and overrated players we,ve signed know it ! They,re milking it for all it's worth , millionaires in the last pay day saloon !
This manager will never change - it's in his DNA , defend defend, nick the odd goal, result , he thinks he,s the new Mourinho ! Forget about the fans, forget wanting some attacking football, goals, it ain't gonna happen. Just look at him , his whole demeanour , if he smiled his face would crack . The guys a loser , he was appointed in good faith and he probably means well , but he,ll never be a success , and these overpaid and overrated players we,ve signed know it ! They,re milking it for all it's worth , millionaires in the last pay day saloon ! peely
  • Score: -1

11:00pm Tue 26 Feb 13

CaptainCaveman says...

Does anyone really think gaining promotion would be a good idea? We need to get a solid club (not just team) a solid club otherwise we will be in the same position again in 2 years.
Does anyone really think gaining promotion would be a good idea? We need to get a solid club (not just team) a solid club otherwise we will be in the same position again in 2 years. CaptainCaveman
  • Score: 8

11:01pm Tue 26 Feb 13

merlinrabbit says...

CaptainCaveman wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment
what an idiot
An idiot and extremely repetitive. I'd frankly be embarrassed to champion the moron Kean. Lying,deluded,backst
abbing, individual and Angry is drooling about him every night
[quote][p][bold]CaptainCaveman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment[/p][/quote]what an idiot[/p][/quote]An idiot and extremely repetitive. I'd frankly be embarrassed to champion the moron Kean. Lying,deluded,backst abbing, individual and Angry is drooling about him every night merlinrabbit
  • Score: 1

11:09pm Tue 26 Feb 13

noddy57 says...

PS after the inept performance tonight may l suggest we trim the inflated wage bill,get rid of all the hangers on who are just about passing as pro footballers,lol,murp
hy has got to go and take atuhu with you,and the new defender appleton brought in,rekich, and williamson,,sick note mk 2,,far too much dead wood having a negative affect on this squad, and its starting to wreak havoc on our great club,,get it sorted appy or youll be joining em,
PS after the inept performance tonight may l suggest we trim the inflated wage bill,get rid of all the hangers on who are just about passing as pro footballers,lol,murp hy has got to go and take atuhu with you,and the new defender appleton brought in,rekich, and williamson,,sick note mk 2,,far too much dead wood having a negative affect on this squad, and its starting to wreak havoc on our great club,,get it sorted appy or youll be joining em, noddy57
  • Score: 9

11:10pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Bungle97 says...

Its a good job that most of the teams in this league are crap. We are close to relgation fodder
Its a good job that most of the teams in this league are crap. We are close to relgation fodder Bungle97
  • Score: 6

11:20pm Tue 26 Feb 13

happiness says...

"Hopefully we get a reaction. That is the biggest think we will be looking for on Saturday. I'm sure he said something similar after the Hull defeat. And what did we get? 2 poorly taken half chances from Rhodes in 90 minutes of clearing balls out of defence to nobody or into the crowd. Well, if you get it wrong this Saturday against the bottom side and don't get 3 points then god help us. Somebody on another thread posted something about our last win at Leicester being in 1991 and Livingstone and Gayle being among the scorers. This was the season we struggled a bit after 3 seasons in the play-offs and nearly went down. Despite this, thinking back, I'm pretty sure that team were better, a **** site more honest and sickeningly, probably paid less than 10% of the wages that this awful collection of self-serving prima-donnas we currently have to endure at the moment are immorally gleaning from our club!!!!
"Hopefully we get a reaction. That is the biggest think we will be looking for on Saturday. I'm sure he said something similar after the Hull defeat. And what did we get? 2 poorly taken half chances from Rhodes in 90 minutes of clearing balls out of defence to nobody or into the crowd. Well, if you get it wrong this Saturday against the bottom side and don't get 3 points then god help us. Somebody on another thread posted something about our last win at Leicester being in 1991 and Livingstone and Gayle being among the scorers. This was the season we struggled a bit after 3 seasons in the play-offs and nearly went down. Despite this, thinking back, I'm pretty sure that team were better, a **** site more honest and sickeningly, probably paid less than 10% of the wages that this awful collection of self-serving prima-donnas we currently have to endure at the moment are immorally gleaning from our club!!!! happiness
  • Score: 7

11:26pm Tue 26 Feb 13

dallydally says...

What a load of crap this team is
What a load of crap this team is dallydally
  • Score: 7

11:27pm Tue 26 Feb 13

owd nick says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment
Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment[/p][/quote]Idiot. owd nick
  • Score: 0

11:35pm Tue 26 Feb 13

MxMave says...

We had an easy run of fixtures and all of a sudden we were promotion hopefuls. It was always blatantly obvious that the harder games would see the side faulter, our wins were never convincing. Brighton & Leeds both outplayed us.

The problem we have at the minute is strategic. When we attack we commit 3 players, 1 in the box, no pressing whatsoever. Other teams press us into our own half in possession and we cant get back out. When was the last time Murphy and/or Lowe were in the box other than from a set piece?

I'm still struggling to understand why Appleton thinks that substitutes are a part of the crowd or that he doesn't want to upset anyone by substituting them. His job as the manager is to change the game in our favor when its tight or when were loosing and yet he seems utterly content to let the game ride out without any intervention. Surely changing the game on the fly is a good 50% of his job? For me Appleton's a waste of time, another inexperienced coach that was hired on the cheap. We need a manager who's proven, we are a historic club - we deserve better than second rate coaches - before Steve Kean the idea of having an untested manager would have been ludacris so why do we accept it now?!
We had an easy run of fixtures and all of a sudden we were promotion hopefuls. It was always blatantly obvious that the harder games would see the side faulter, our wins were never convincing. Brighton & Leeds both outplayed us. The problem we have at the minute is strategic. When we attack we commit 3 players, 1 in the box, no pressing whatsoever. Other teams press us into our own half in possession and we cant get back out. When was the last time Murphy and/or Lowe were in the box other than from a set piece? I'm still struggling to understand why Appleton thinks that substitutes are a part of the crowd or that he doesn't want to upset anyone by substituting them. His job as the manager is to change the game in our favor when its tight or when were loosing and yet he seems utterly content to let the game ride out without any intervention. Surely changing the game on the fly is a good 50% of his job? For me Appleton's a waste of time, another inexperienced coach that was hired on the cheap. We need a manager who's proven, we are a historic club - we deserve better than second rate coaches - before Steve Kean the idea of having an untested manager would have been ludacris so why do we accept it now?! MxMave
  • Score: 7

11:37pm Tue 26 Feb 13

owd nick says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
CaptainCaveman wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment
what an idiot
An idiot and extremely repetitive. I'd frankly be embarrassed to champion the moron Kean. Lying,deluded,backst

abbing, individual and Angry is drooling about him every night
Thats not what Angry said, he wants Appleton to get the same treatment that Kean received.

Which would be a disaster.

And that's why I called him an idiot (above).

Does anyone really want BRAG back?

Appleton has to be given a chance, there is no way he can turn things around this season, like it or not we are stuck in this division for the foreseeable.

He didn't sign Murphy did he?

And from what I have seen of DJ Campbell, well, pretty good bit of business not getting the registration through in time during the window, otherwise we would be lumbered with him for God knows how long.

The major issue is the midfield, that needs to be sorted at the end of the season, then from the start of next season we can judge Appleton.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainCaveman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: But apparently Appleton talks a lot of sense. Clearly his half time team talks are almost as inspiring as his tactics. I will give him til the end of the season but I am sure he could be persuaded to go earlier if he got the Steve Kean treatment[/p][/quote]what an idiot[/p][/quote]An idiot and extremely repetitive. I'd frankly be embarrassed to champion the moron Kean. Lying,deluded,backst abbing, individual and Angry is drooling about him every night[/p][/quote]Thats not what Angry said, he wants Appleton to get the same treatment that Kean received. Which would be a disaster. And that's why I called him an idiot (above). Does anyone really want BRAG back? Appleton has to be given a chance, there is no way he can turn things around this season, like it or not we are stuck in this division for the foreseeable. He didn't sign Murphy did he? And from what I have seen of DJ Campbell, well, pretty good bit of business not getting the registration through in time during the window, otherwise we would be lumbered with him for God knows how long. The major issue is the midfield, that needs to be sorted at the end of the season, then from the start of next season we can judge Appleton. owd nick
  • Score: 3

11:38pm Tue 26 Feb 13

leitchy says...

Don't get beat 5 or 6!!!!!!!!!

U have as much ambition as Venks!!!!

What a pathetic statement...u should of bollocked them for being 2-0 down !
Don't get beat 5 or 6!!!!!!!!! U have as much ambition as Venks!!!! What a pathetic statement...u should of bollocked them for being 2-0 down ! leitchy
  • Score: 21

11:41pm Tue 26 Feb 13

bluerob says...

dallydally wrote:
We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]dallydally[/bold] wrote: We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]Spot on bluerob
  • Score: 6

12:38am Wed 27 Feb 13

BlueSkies says...

Just back from the game. It was absolutely awful. A disgraceful display.

I'm all for giving MA time and support but really, there is no reason whatsoever why Murphy should wear the shirt at all. If MA thinks the man is worthy of his place then we are in bigger trouble than I thought possible.

2 things..... if he picks Murphy again I will question his fitness to manage BRFC, and next what induced him to take off Rhodes, who worked the line and channels as best he could, and leave on the apology of a striker in Campbell? Madness.

Rubbish tonight.
Just back from the game. It was absolutely awful. A disgraceful display. I'm all for giving MA time and support but really, there is no reason whatsoever why Murphy should wear the shirt at all. If MA thinks the man is worthy of his place then we are in bigger trouble than I thought possible. 2 things..... if he picks Murphy again I will question his fitness to manage BRFC, and next what induced him to take off Rhodes, who worked the line and channels as best he could, and leave on the apology of a striker in Campbell? Madness. Rubbish tonight. BlueSkies
  • Score: 11

1:02am Wed 27 Feb 13

Dukes says...

I wonder how long he got in this job Appleton.
I wonder how long he got in this job Appleton. Dukes
  • Score: 2

1:40am Wed 27 Feb 13

tugay please !! says...

Agree with blueskies we were garbage tonight Murphy and campbell gave possibly the joint worst performance I have seen by any rovers player in 30 years and as for things could of been different if pederson had scored Get a grip mr Appleton nothing has really changed we are a poor side a million miles away from promotion. I just hope we improve before March 17 or weve had it. Cant say Im looking forward to another Appleton reaction to be honest. Massive rebuild required from top to bottom still.
Agree with blueskies we were garbage tonight Murphy and campbell gave possibly the joint worst performance I have seen by any rovers player in 30 years and as for things could of been different if pederson had scored Get a grip mr Appleton nothing has really changed we are a poor side a million miles away from promotion. I just hope we improve before March 17 or weve had it. Cant say Im looking forward to another Appleton reaction to be honest. Massive rebuild required from top to bottom still. tugay please !!
  • Score: 6

1:50am Wed 27 Feb 13

BlueSkies says...

tugay please !! wrote:
Agree with blueskies we were garbage tonight Murphy and campbell gave possibly the joint worst performance I have seen by any rovers player in 30 years and as for things could of been different if pederson had scored Get a grip mr Appleton nothing has really changed we are a poor side a million miles away from promotion. I just hope we improve before March 17 or weve had it. Cant say Im looking forward to another Appleton reaction to be honest. Massive rebuild required from top to bottom still.
Yeah, MA comment on BBC re: world class save...did I miss something?

Simple point: we are a poor side. Forget what a side on paper looks like, we play man to man, on grass, and we are very very poor.

Tonight was as bad as I have seen since the the days of Andy Kennedy at Birmingham and another display at Sheff Wed years later when on both occasions the fans turned their backs on the players.

Anyway, off to bed.................
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[quote][p][bold]tugay please !![/bold] wrote: Agree with blueskies we were garbage tonight Murphy and campbell gave possibly the joint worst performance I have seen by any rovers player in 30 years and as for things could of been different if pederson had scored Get a grip mr Appleton nothing has really changed we are a poor side a million miles away from promotion. I just hope we improve before March 17 or weve had it. Cant say Im looking forward to another Appleton reaction to be honest. Massive rebuild required from top to bottom still.[/p][/quote]Yeah, MA comment on BBC re: world class save...did I miss something? Simple point: we are a poor side. Forget what a side on paper looks like, we play man to man, on grass, and we are very very poor. Tonight was as bad as I have seen since the the days of Andy Kennedy at Birmingham and another display at Sheff Wed years later when on both occasions the fans turned their backs on the players. Anyway, off to bed................. .................... ........ BlueSkies
  • Score: 3

2:15am Wed 27 Feb 13

Ralph Jones says...

How can seasoned veteran defenders play like this, how many goals have been conceded by headers, the first thing you learn surely is mark your man, we have the height in defense to let no one pass. pure simple mistakes they make in high school, the midfield is non existant, we are becoming the laughing stock of the league, no promotion this year until they clear out all the dead wood.
How can seasoned veteran defenders play like this, how many goals have been conceded by headers, the first thing you learn surely is mark your man, we have the height in defense to let no one pass. pure simple mistakes they make in high school, the midfield is non existant, we are becoming the laughing stock of the league, no promotion this year until they clear out all the dead wood. Ralph Jones
  • Score: 3

6:54am Wed 27 Feb 13

Joepublicspeaking says...

At least Appleton doesn't need to bring in any loan signings as there is no point, we stand no chance of making the play offs. We will have to hope that he gets rid of the dead wood in the summer and is able to put together a competitive side for next season. Will have to take a loss on lots of overpaid players though.
At least Appleton doesn't need to bring in any loan signings as there is no point, we stand no chance of making the play offs. We will have to hope that he gets rid of the dead wood in the summer and is able to put together a competitive side for next season. Will have to take a loss on lots of overpaid players though. Joepublicspeaking
  • Score: 2

7:36am Wed 27 Feb 13

1riversider says...

The only surprise is that some people are surprised by the position Rovers are in!

In two years, the owners have dismantled, and got rid of a true Premiership team, and sguad, and replaced them with what we have now - mediocrity all over the pitch! What else do you people expect. The final asset stripping will be done at the end of this year.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
The only surprise is that some people are surprised by the position Rovers are in! In two years, the owners have dismantled, and got rid of a true Premiership team, and sguad, and replaced them with what we have now - mediocrity all over the pitch! What else do you people expect. The final asset stripping will be done at the end of this year. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB 1riversider
  • Score: 11

7:44am Wed 27 Feb 13

roversok says...

We beat Arsenal all of a sudden the players think that they are to good to play in the championship.
Take it pass back Murphy was playing last night.
He is on a fantastic pay for a well past it has been, who belongs in a pub team.
We beat Arsenal all of a sudden the players think that they are to good to play in the championship. Take it pass back Murphy was playing last night. He is on a fantastic pay for a well past it has been, who belongs in a pub team. roversok
  • Score: 4

7:54am Wed 27 Feb 13

A Darener says...

Well the honeymoon is well and truly over!
Well the honeymoon is well and truly over! A Darener
  • Score: 8

8:10am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Irish knowledge wrote:
"At half time I said to the lads don’t get thumped by five or six"

You have got to be joking me... its leicester city not barcelona. Also I hear Nunes is on his way in the summer, which is crazy because he might be the one player to help unlock defences. Anyway we all can see that Lowe, Pederson, and Murphy and prob Campbell are crap so maybe Appy will open his eyes sooner rather than later
It will make no difference if Venkys won't give him money to sign quality players.
[quote][p][bold]Irish knowledge[/bold] wrote: "At half time I said to the lads don’t get thumped by five or six" You have got to be joking me... its leicester city not barcelona. Also I hear Nunes is on his way in the summer, which is crazy because he might be the one player to help unlock defences. Anyway we all can see that Lowe, Pederson, and Murphy and prob Campbell are crap so maybe Appy will open his eyes sooner rather than later[/p][/quote]It will make no difference if Venkys won't give him money to sign quality players. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

8:19am Wed 27 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

Joepublicspeaking wrote:
At least Appleton doesn't need to bring in any loan signings as there is no point, we stand no chance of making the play offs. We will have to hope that he gets rid of the dead wood in the summer and is able to put together a competitive side for next season. Will have to take a loss on lots of overpaid players though.
complete control - we got over this club
[quote][p][bold]Joepublicspeaking[/bold] wrote: At least Appleton doesn't need to bring in any loan signings as there is no point, we stand no chance of making the play offs. We will have to hope that he gets rid of the dead wood in the summer and is able to put together a competitive side for next season. Will have to take a loss on lots of overpaid players though.[/p][/quote]complete control - we got over this club hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -1

8:22am Wed 27 Feb 13

whappen says...

MxMave wrote:
We had an easy run of fixtures and all of a sudden we were promotion hopefuls. It was always blatantly obvious that the harder games would see the side faulter, our wins were never convincing. Brighton & Leeds both outplayed us. The problem we have at the minute is strategic. When we attack we commit 3 players, 1 in the box, no pressing whatsoever. Other teams press us into our own half in possession and we cant get back out. When was the last time Murphy and/or Lowe were in the box other than from a set piece? I'm still struggling to understand why Appleton thinks that substitutes are a part of the crowd or that he doesn't want to upset anyone by substituting them. His job as the manager is to change the game in our favor when its tight or when were loosing and yet he seems utterly content to let the game ride out without any intervention. Surely changing the game on the fly is a good 50% of his job? For me Appleton's a waste of time, another inexperienced coach that was hired on the cheap. We need a manager who's proven, we are a historic club - we deserve better than second rate coaches - before Steve Kean the idea of having an untested manager would have been ludacris so why do we accept it now?!
Kendall, Harford, Kidd? You could include Paul Ince as well.

One excellent, three not so good. Add Kean and it's one in five. You'd think we'd have learnt wouldn't you?

Appleton still has to cope with the Kean legacy. It's unfair to judge him until he's had the Summer to re-assess what he's got, what he needs and what he ends up with, dependant on what the owners let him have.

I don't like those odds though.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: We had an easy run of fixtures and all of a sudden we were promotion hopefuls. It was always blatantly obvious that the harder games would see the side faulter, our wins were never convincing. Brighton & Leeds both outplayed us. The problem we have at the minute is strategic. When we attack we commit 3 players, 1 in the box, no pressing whatsoever. Other teams press us into our own half in possession and we cant get back out. When was the last time Murphy and/or Lowe were in the box other than from a set piece? I'm still struggling to understand why Appleton thinks that substitutes are a part of the crowd or that he doesn't want to upset anyone by substituting them. His job as the manager is to change the game in our favor when its tight or when were loosing and yet he seems utterly content to let the game ride out without any intervention. Surely changing the game on the fly is a good 50% of his job? For me Appleton's a waste of time, another inexperienced coach that was hired on the cheap. We need a manager who's proven, we are a historic club - we deserve better than second rate coaches - before Steve Kean the idea of having an untested manager would have been ludacris so why do we accept it now?![/p][/quote]Kendall, Harford, Kidd? You could include Paul Ince as well. One excellent, three not so good. Add Kean and it's one in five. You'd think we'd have learnt wouldn't you? Appleton still has to cope with the Kean legacy. It's unfair to judge him until he's had the Summer to re-assess what he's got, what he needs and what he ends up with, dependant on what the owners let him have. I don't like those odds though. whappen
  • Score: 1

8:24am Wed 27 Feb 13

hotpot8200 says...

noddy57 wrote:
dallydally wrote: We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee.
thats spot on,,we have been average all along and tonights result changes nothing,,we have been hyped up by the morons who think the rovers are a premiership side,,lm afraid that hasnt been the case for quite some time,listen this guy appleton only plays one way,,and its patently obviouse the way he sets out the team,,granted we have improved defencivly,,but the cost is much too high,the midfield is out of touch with the attack,,appleton will never get this team anywhere near the premiership and that is so patently obviouse to me and it should be to the rest of you,,wake up, murphy was abysmal pedersen too,,thats easy blaming those two,,in reality the whole bloody team tonight was a joke,,,,
Yeah but the reason Murphy is getting the stick is he is the captain he is probably on the biggest wage at Rovers and he is **** please take a look at there second goal from the corner for leicester and how much effort he put in to stop it we were right by the side of the goal and he wonders behind Jake not marking anybody he`s 3 yards off the post he just left it to others he was shaking and dropping his head when virtual every pass forward he did he passed to there players .If we can see it in the stands why does Appleton have the balls to say at half time Murphy u were ****(not lets lose the game 5 or 6 nil great words Appleton) the second goal is down to u ,u can not find 1 of our players going forward, u are slow, u are not picking up a leicester player, u are looking like a lost sheep HE NEEDS DROPPING but to be honest he would not care he`s taking his big pay packet.Thats y Murphy the captain of the team (suppose to be the leader) is getting the stick
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dallydally[/bold] wrote: We are where we are because of what we are - in the main a group of average players. Wake up everyone and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]thats spot on,,we have been average all along and tonights result changes nothing,,we have been hyped up by the morons who think the rovers are a premiership side,,lm afraid that hasnt been the case for quite some time,listen this guy appleton only plays one way,,and its patently obviouse the way he sets out the team,,granted we have improved defencivly,,but the cost is much too high,the midfield is out of touch with the attack,,appleton will never get this team anywhere near the premiership and that is so patently obviouse to me and it should be to the rest of you,,wake up, murphy was abysmal pedersen too,,thats easy blaming those two,,in reality the whole bloody team tonight was a joke,,,,[/p][/quote]Yeah but the reason Murphy is getting the stick is he is the captain he is probably on the biggest wage at Rovers and he is **** please take a look at there second goal from the corner for leicester and how much effort he put in to stop it we were right by the side of the goal and he wonders behind Jake not marking anybody he`s 3 yards off the post he just left it to others he was shaking and dropping his head when virtual every pass forward he did he passed to there players .If we can see it in the stands why does Appleton have the balls to say at half time Murphy u were ****(not lets lose the game 5 or 6 nil great words Appleton) the second goal is down to u ,u can not find 1 of our players going forward, u are slow, u are not picking up a leicester player, u are looking like a lost sheep HE NEEDS DROPPING but to be honest he would not care he`s taking his big pay packet.Thats y Murphy the captain of the team (suppose to be the leader) is getting the stick hotpot8200
  • Score: 3

8:28am Wed 27 Feb 13

roverfoxy says...

Doesn't take people long to jump on the bandwagon once we lose a couple!!! We've had two of the top 4 teams in the league both away on Tuesday nights after difficult Saturday games each week - 4 or 5 very winnable coming up now including our "friends" so lets see where we are and re-assess after that!!!
Doesn't take people long to jump on the bandwagon once we lose a couple!!! We've had two of the top 4 teams in the league both away on Tuesday nights after difficult Saturday games each week - 4 or 5 very winnable coming up now including our "friends" so lets see where we are and re-assess after that!!! roverfoxy
  • Score: -1

8:34am Wed 27 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys

nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?
for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 4

8:48am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys

nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?
Add to that a decent manager, a good professional board and back room staff shown the door, it's quite clear the club has been 'run down'.
What more evidence does anyone want?
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?[/p][/quote]Add to that a decent manager, a good professional board and back room staff shown the door, it's quite clear the club has been 'run down'. What more evidence does anyone want? Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 7

8:48am Wed 27 Feb 13

Waldo Woo says...

Was one of very Rovers fans who braved the cold to watch the game last night.
I can honestly say after watching Rovers for 30yrs, that was the second worst performance I've witnessed.
We essentially had one chance which required and world class save from Schmeichel. after that it was worse that woeful.
the defending for the 2 frst half goals was abysmal- not surprised MA took off our whole left side at half time. The second was ineptitude itself- a corner and no-one jumped- it was incredible.
The midfield was non existent- bentley, Murphygave the ball away so frequently it was frightneing- Very worrying
Was one of very Rovers fans who braved the cold to watch the game last night. I can honestly say after watching Rovers for 30yrs, that was the second worst performance I've witnessed. We essentially had one chance which required and world class save from Schmeichel. after that it was worse that woeful. the defending for the 2 frst half goals was abysmal- not surprised MA took off our whole left side at half time. The second was ineptitude itself- a corner and no-one jumped- it was incredible. The midfield was non existent- bentley, Murphygave the ball away so frequently it was frightneing- Very worrying Waldo Woo
  • Score: 5

8:54am Wed 27 Feb 13

RobbyRover says...

Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen. RobbyRover
  • Score: 5

8:55am Wed 27 Feb 13

bburnrover says...

Yes we have shot our bolt this season it was obvious from the team we had under Kean we werent going to compete against the good sides.The midfield is a joke and he will have his work cut out as Murphy isnt going anywhere so the wage bill for non productive players is very high.We definately need an all action midfielder with power and pace not easy to finf on a limited budget,also we need a left winger again with pace,is Givet staying? lots of questions need answering but the one about how good we are was answered last night against a journeyman side with no real quality in it.
Yes we have shot our bolt this season it was obvious from the team we had under Kean we werent going to compete against the good sides.The midfield is a joke and he will have his work cut out as Murphy isnt going anywhere so the wage bill for non productive players is very high.We definately need an all action midfielder with power and pace not easy to finf on a limited budget,also we need a left winger again with pace,is Givet staying? lots of questions need answering but the one about how good we are was answered last night against a journeyman side with no real quality in it. bburnrover
  • Score: 0

9:05am Wed 27 Feb 13

RobbyRover says...

RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
I forgot Bowyer! Make that 5 managers... sorry Gary!
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]I forgot Bowyer! Make that 5 managers... sorry Gary! RobbyRover
  • Score: 0

9:09am Wed 27 Feb 13

madrover says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!!
Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.
armchair supporter your opinion means nothing
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!! Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.[/p][/quote]armchair supporter your opinion means nothing madrover
  • Score: -1

9:10am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

bburnrover wrote:
Yes we have shot our bolt this season it was obvious from the team we had under Kean we werent going to compete against the good sides.The midfield is a joke and he will have his work cut out as Murphy isnt going anywhere so the wage bill for non productive players is very high.We definately need an all action midfielder with power and pace not easy to finf on a limited budget,also we need a left winger again with pace,is Givet staying? lots of questions need answering but the one about how good we are was answered last night against a journeyman side with no real quality in it.
And also against Hull. Another Championship side with no star / household names, but good, hungry hard working players playing as a team.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Yes we have shot our bolt this season it was obvious from the team we had under Kean we werent going to compete against the good sides.The midfield is a joke and he will have his work cut out as Murphy isnt going anywhere so the wage bill for non productive players is very high.We definately need an all action midfielder with power and pace not easy to finf on a limited budget,also we need a left winger again with pace,is Givet staying? lots of questions need answering but the one about how good we are was answered last night against a journeyman side with no real quality in it.[/p][/quote]And also against Hull. Another Championship side with no star / household names, but good, hungry hard working players playing as a team. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

9:12am Wed 27 Feb 13

chez rover says...

I've been really happy with Appletons coments after every game but a half time team talk should not consist of "lets not get battered". Surely it should be more along the lines of. Go out there, show you've got a pair and get something out of this game!...... or words to that effect. Really dissapointed in that comment.
I've been really happy with Appletons coments after every game but a half time team talk should not consist of "lets not get battered". Surely it should be more along the lines of. Go out there, show you've got a pair and get something out of this game!...... or words to that effect. Really dissapointed in that comment. chez rover
  • Score: 8

9:12am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

madrover wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!!
Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.
armchair supporter your opinion means nothing
Perhaps it means he can see further than the end of his nose.
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!! Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.[/p][/quote]armchair supporter your opinion means nothing[/p][/quote]Perhaps it means he can see further than the end of his nose. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 5

9:17am Wed 27 Feb 13

Sherwoodforest says...

CaptainCaveman wrote:
Does anyone really think gaining promotion would be a good idea? We need to get a solid club (not just team) a solid club otherwise we will be in the same position again in 2 years.
financially it would be a god send, even if we only stayed up a year
[quote][p][bold]CaptainCaveman[/bold] wrote: Does anyone really think gaining promotion would be a good idea? We need to get a solid club (not just team) a solid club otherwise we will be in the same position again in 2 years.[/p][/quote]financially it would be a god send, even if we only stayed up a year Sherwoodforest
  • Score: -1

9:19am Wed 27 Feb 13

catmik says...

Well, I was actually there watching the game last night and although it was a very poor performance from the Rovers, my analysis is as follows.. I think the defence is reasonably sound, although we let them get behind us last night. I think up front, given the service, we have strikers capable of scoring freely at this level. Where we have a real problem is our midfield four. I'm afraid Pederson, Lowe, Murphy and even Bentley were totally ineffective, particularly Lowe and Murphy. Until that is sorted out I'm afraid there is no hope...
Well, I was actually there watching the game last night and although it was a very poor performance from the Rovers, my analysis is as follows.. I think the defence is reasonably sound, although we let them get behind us last night. I think up front, given the service, we have strikers capable of scoring freely at this level. Where we have a real problem is our midfield four. I'm afraid Pederson, Lowe, Murphy and even Bentley were totally ineffective, particularly Lowe and Murphy. Until that is sorted out I'm afraid there is no hope... catmik
  • Score: 2

9:19am Wed 27 Feb 13

noddymcleod says...

Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws.
Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired.
The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable.
Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws. Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired. The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable. noddymcleod
  • Score: 3

9:23am Wed 27 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!!
Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.
armchair supporter your opinion means nothing
Perhaps it means he can see further than the end of his nose.
Its not his 'nose' we should be worried about - you clown!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!! Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.[/p][/quote]armchair supporter your opinion means nothing[/p][/quote]Perhaps it means he can see further than the end of his nose.[/p][/quote]Its not his 'nose' we should be worried about - you clown!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave
  • Score: -1

9:24am Wed 27 Feb 13

moh says...

peely wrote:
This manager will never change - it's in his DNA , defend defend, nick the odd goal, result , he thinks he,s the new Mourinho ! Forget about the fans, forget wanting some attacking football, goals, it ain't gonna happen. Just look at him , his whole demeanour , if he smiled his face would crack . The guys a loser , he was appointed in good faith and he probably means well , but he,ll never be a success , and these overpaid and overrated players we,ve signed know it ! They,re milking it for all it's worth , millionaires in the last pay day saloon !
some people did comment on this page when he was appointed that he is a defend, defend manager and a draw specialist. His results at Blackpool was proof. Venkys will never learn and keep appointing inexperienced, average managers. Shaw and Agnew have been quiet recently.
[quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: This manager will never change - it's in his DNA , defend defend, nick the odd goal, result , he thinks he,s the new Mourinho ! Forget about the fans, forget wanting some attacking football, goals, it ain't gonna happen. Just look at him , his whole demeanour , if he smiled his face would crack . The guys a loser , he was appointed in good faith and he probably means well , but he,ll never be a success , and these overpaid and overrated players we,ve signed know it ! They,re milking it for all it's worth , millionaires in the last pay day saloon ![/p][/quote]some people did comment on this page when he was appointed that he is a defend, defend manager and a draw specialist. His results at Blackpool was proof. Venkys will never learn and keep appointing inexperienced, average managers. Shaw and Agnew have been quiet recently. moh
  • Score: 1

9:25am Wed 27 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

madrover wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!!
Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.
armchair supporter your opinion means nothing
Obviously does for you to make a comment!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!! Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.[/p][/quote]armchair supporter your opinion means nothing[/p][/quote]Obviously does for you to make a comment!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave
  • Score: 0

9:25am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Sherwoodforest wrote:
CaptainCaveman wrote:
Does anyone really think gaining promotion would be a good idea? We need to get a solid club (not just team) a solid club otherwise we will be in the same position again in 2 years.
financially it would be a god send, even if we only stayed up a year
That would suit Venkys down to the ground. A yoyo club raking in the parachute payments every year.
[quote][p][bold]Sherwoodforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainCaveman[/bold] wrote: Does anyone really think gaining promotion would be a good idea? We need to get a solid club (not just team) a solid club otherwise we will be in the same position again in 2 years.[/p][/quote]financially it would be a god send, even if we only stayed up a year[/p][/quote]That would suit Venkys down to the ground. A yoyo club raking in the parachute payments every year. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

9:28am Wed 27 Feb 13

Riverside 7 says...

I said on this forum a few weeks ago that Appleton needs to be certain that the players he's bringing into the club are better than the ones we already have.

After getting rid of a lot of the so called 'deadwood' at the club in January he brought in the likes of Rekik and Campbell.

Rekik (a defender) made his Rovers' debut at Hull City playing out of position on the leftside of midfield.
In the last 2 games he has played at left fullback.
His he really any better at fullback than Gael Givet?
Givet has been on the subs bench for almost every game this year without ever making an appearance. Why?
Is the reason contractual?

Similarly, is Campbell any better than Gomes or Goodwillie?
On his performances to date I don't think he is.

With regards to Pederson. It was clear 4 years ago that he was no longer a winger. That is why Sam Allardyce played him in central midfield in a 5 across the middle.

As most of the fans know, our main problem is in central midfield where the likes of Murphy, Lowe, Etuhu are just not god enough.
Apart from bringing in Williamson (now injured) Appleton has done nothing to improve this area and we hae been brushed aside by decent teams such as Brighton, Hull and Leicester.

In hs first few days at the club, Appleton talked alot of sense and I thought that we had managed to appoint a decent manager at long last.
Whilst I have not given up on him, I have recently been disappointed with some of his loan signings, his negative tactics, and his reluctance to use subs to try and win games.
His half-time team talk 'don't let us get thumped 5 or 6' seems to sum it all up.
I said on this forum a few weeks ago that Appleton needs to be certain that the players he's bringing into the club are better than the ones we already have. After getting rid of a lot of the so called 'deadwood' at the club in January he brought in the likes of Rekik and Campbell. Rekik (a defender) made his Rovers' debut at Hull City playing out of position on the leftside of midfield. In the last 2 games he has played at left fullback. His he really any better at fullback than Gael Givet? Givet has been on the subs bench for almost every game this year without ever making an appearance. Why? Is the reason contractual? Similarly, is Campbell any better than Gomes or Goodwillie? On his performances to date I don't think he is. With regards to Pederson. It was clear 4 years ago that he was no longer a winger. That is why Sam Allardyce played him in central midfield in a 5 across the middle. As most of the fans know, our main problem is in central midfield where the likes of Murphy, Lowe, Etuhu are just not god enough. Apart from bringing in Williamson (now injured) Appleton has done nothing to improve this area and we hae been brushed aside by decent teams such as Brighton, Hull and Leicester. In hs first few days at the club, Appleton talked alot of sense and I thought that we had managed to appoint a decent manager at long last. Whilst I have not given up on him, I have recently been disappointed with some of his loan signings, his negative tactics, and his reluctance to use subs to try and win games. His half-time team talk 'don't let us get thumped 5 or 6' seems to sum it all up. Riverside 7
  • Score: 5

9:28am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!!
Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.
armchair supporter your opinion means nothing
Perhaps it means he can see further than the end of his nose.
Its not his 'nose' we should be worried about - you clown!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Mr Dangerous, My comment was in support of you and you call me a clown.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!! Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.[/p][/quote]armchair supporter your opinion means nothing[/p][/quote]Perhaps it means he can see further than the end of his nose.[/p][/quote]Its not his 'nose' we should be worried about - you clown!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Mr Dangerous, My comment was in support of you and you call me a clown. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

9:31am Wed 27 Feb 13

lancs1985 says...

Well the Venkys puppet speaks again n speaks like Steve kean
" I told the lads not to go out n get drummed 5 or 6 n to just win the 2nd half, IS THAT FOR REAL, IS THIS NOT MENT TO BE A TEAM PUSHING FOR PROMOTION????

" more words,, the lads have improved each time iv asked them, well why do you have to ask to improve n 2nd appletown did Appleton see the Brighton game hull game Leeds game n last nights shower cause there ain't no improvement there in my eyes they have got worse by each performance!!!!

As for dj Campbell after the Leeds game Appleton said that he had lost a family member, n he had took it hard, well don't start with the lad simple as that, if his head ain't on the game why start him for last few games you fool, wake up Appleton

Best words a heard at end of interview was he was trying to get in 2 players b4 Saturday, well in my eyes the squad lacks another 5 players n don't mean boys from Portugal I mean some enperience muscle in that midfield n defence,

Reiki is being awful god no's how city see that lad at 10milion we should. Of gone n bought Steven warnock

Venkys out
Well the Venkys puppet speaks again n speaks like Steve kean " I told the lads not to go out n get drummed 5 or 6 n to just win the 2nd half, IS THAT FOR REAL, IS THIS NOT MENT TO BE A TEAM PUSHING FOR PROMOTION???? " more words,, the lads have improved each time iv asked them, well why do you have to ask to improve n 2nd appletown did Appleton see the Brighton game hull game Leeds game n last nights shower cause there ain't no improvement there in my eyes they have got worse by each performance!!!! As for dj Campbell after the Leeds game Appleton said that he had lost a family member, n he had took it hard, well don't start with the lad simple as that, if his head ain't on the game why start him for last few games you fool, wake up Appleton Best words a heard at end of interview was he was trying to get in 2 players b4 Saturday, well in my eyes the squad lacks another 5 players n don't mean boys from Portugal I mean some enperience muscle in that midfield n defence, Reiki is being awful god no's how city see that lad at 10milion we should. Of gone n bought Steven warnock Venkys out lancs1985
  • Score: 1

9:37am Wed 27 Feb 13

moh says...

RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
I wish other rovers fans had your confidence. Appleton does'nt seem to be the manager to get rovers to premiership. His philosophy of defend, defend is'nty getting rovers anywhere. His confidence in players like Orr, Pederson, Campbell does'nt inspire confidence. Shebby made a mistake appointing Berg, another inexperienced manager but was right about Pederson, Orr and others. Appleton comes across a sensible guy but his performance so far is very average. Also the new people he has brought like Campbell, Rekik are very ineffective and has not improved team.
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]I wish other rovers fans had your confidence. Appleton does'nt seem to be the manager to get rovers to premiership. His philosophy of defend, defend is'nty getting rovers anywhere. His confidence in players like Orr, Pederson, Campbell does'nt inspire confidence. Shebby made a mistake appointing Berg, another inexperienced manager but was right about Pederson, Orr and others. Appleton comes across a sensible guy but his performance so far is very average. Also the new people he has brought like Campbell, Rekik are very ineffective and has not improved team. moh
  • Score: 0

9:41am Wed 27 Feb 13

Hovis1945 says...

From Twitter:
Andy Bayes ‏@AndyBayes

The message from MA after #Rovers defeat last night was ..players have 12 games to impress or it's the chop. Shades of Souness in 2000.
From Twitter: Andy Bayes ‏@AndyBayes The message from MA after #Rovers defeat last night was ..players have 12 games to impress or it's the chop. Shades of Souness in 2000. Hovis1945
  • Score: 1

9:50am Wed 27 Feb 13

benal13 says...

well the geeks honeymoon period is over as i said a while ago, dj campbell and rekik the geeks signings were woefull, and hes not even talking a good game anymore it cost me and a few hundred more over £100 altogether to watch dros disgusting!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!
well the geeks honeymoon period is over as i said a while ago, dj campbell and rekik the geeks signings were woefull, and hes not even talking a good game anymore it cost me and a few hundred more over £100 altogether to watch dros disgusting!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! benal13
  • Score: -1

9:52am Wed 27 Feb 13

PersianRover says...

Getting rid of our most creative players isn't the solution, as some have thought..

If it is true Nunes will soon be out, as he is being frozen out, seems the case, I would be very very disappointed. He looks very sharp and aggressive too.
Getting rid of our most creative players isn't the solution, as some have thought.. If it is true Nunes will soon be out, as he is being frozen out, seems the case, I would be very very disappointed. He looks very sharp and aggressive too. PersianRover
  • Score: 0

9:53am Wed 27 Feb 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Appy won't be happy at the moment, his loan signings are looking ineffective and some of the other players fail to produce the goods on a weekly basis.But we have to give the man a chance as he walked into a club with a lot of problems, he has put good backroom staff in place and he is still learning himself.He will also have problems unloading a lot of these players in the Summer who are on good contracts nobody else will want and will just try to sit it out. On top of that some of the players who have done well may want to leave at the end of the season. Therefore I think he might struggle next year. Anyway he has shown he has got a lot about him as a character and determination ect. I think we should back him through thick and thin for this and next season and see if he can get us some success. I might grumble now and again with a bad result etc but will still back him to the hilt and let him have a good crack at it. I think he will eventually do quite well.
Appy won't be happy at the moment, his loan signings are looking ineffective and some of the other players fail to produce the goods on a weekly basis.But we have to give the man a chance as he walked into a club with a lot of problems, he has put good backroom staff in place and he is still learning himself.He will also have problems unloading a lot of these players in the Summer who are on good contracts nobody else will want and will just try to sit it out. On top of that some of the players who have done well may want to leave at the end of the season. Therefore I think he might struggle next year. Anyway he has shown he has got a lot about him as a character and determination ect. I think we should back him through thick and thin for this and next season and see if he can get us some success. I might grumble now and again with a bad result etc but will still back him to the hilt and let him have a good crack at it. I think he will eventually do quite well. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 0

10:05am Wed 27 Feb 13

Iiii1111 says...

Judge after 10 games....Peterbro this Sat. I believe.
Judge after 10 games....Peterbro this Sat. I believe. Iiii1111
  • Score: -1

10:20am Wed 27 Feb 13

LongWayFromHome says...

RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said!

Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting LongWayFromHome
  • Score: -1

10:41am Wed 27 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -1

10:45am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.[/p][/quote]It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

10:52am Wed 27 Feb 13

BlueSkies says...

LongWayFromHome wrote:
RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said!

Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)
[quote][p][bold]LongWayFromHome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting[/p][/quote]You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played) BlueSkies
  • Score: 1

11:00am Wed 27 Feb 13

benal13 says...

LongWayFromHome wrote:
RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said!

Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
were you there last night ? thought not IDIOT!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]LongWayFromHome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting[/p][/quote]were you there last night ? thought not IDIOT!!!!! benal13
  • Score: 1

11:02am Wed 27 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.
I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.[/p][/quote]It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.[/p][/quote]I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -1

11:03am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

BlueSkies wrote:
LongWayFromHome wrote:
RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said!

Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)
I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?
[quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LongWayFromHome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting[/p][/quote]You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)[/p][/quote]I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from? Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

11:04am Wed 27 Feb 13

French Rover says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys

nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?
I agree Hass, but to show the way fans react at different times - take Samba, Nelson and Jones (and RCS first time around) out of your pre-venky squad and the rest of the ones you mention all got tremendous stick for a big part of their time at Ewood. Even Brett Emerton got stick from certain sections of the crowd and Hoilett was always called 'too greedy'....yet wouldn't we love to have that lot back at Ewood now. I know I would....except maybe Diouffy
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?[/p][/quote]I agree Hass, but to show the way fans react at different times - take Samba, Nelson and Jones (and RCS first time around) out of your pre-venky squad and the rest of the ones you mention all got tremendous stick for a big part of their time at Ewood. Even Brett Emerton got stick from certain sections of the crowd and Hoilett was always called 'too greedy'....yet wouldn't we love to have that lot back at Ewood now. I know I would....except maybe Diouffy French Rover
  • Score: -1

11:10am Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.
I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall.
I agree we have always had to sell in the past, but for Venkys to come in and ship out an entire Premiership squad and replace them with what we have now is ridiculous.
I repeat, they have consistently refused to fund a 'proper' manager and invest in quality players. Is it any wonder we are where we are?
As for Appleton......He's on a hiding to nothing with the dross he inherited and the owners refusal to back him with proper funds.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.[/p][/quote]It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.[/p][/quote]I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall.[/p][/quote]I agree we have always had to sell in the past, but for Venkys to come in and ship out an entire Premiership squad and replace them with what we have now is ridiculous. I repeat, they have consistently refused to fund a 'proper' manager and invest in quality players. Is it any wonder we are where we are? As for Appleton......He's on a hiding to nothing with the dross he inherited and the owners refusal to back him with proper funds. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 4

11:36am Wed 27 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.
I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall.
I agree we have always had to sell in the past, but for Venkys to come in and ship out an entire Premiership squad and replace them with what we have now is ridiculous.
I repeat, they have consistently refused to fund a 'proper' manager and invest in quality players. Is it any wonder we are where we are?
As for Appleton......He's on a hiding to nothing with the dross he inherited and the owners refusal to back him with proper funds.
And I repeat that he is bringing in worse players than the ones he is either shipping out or leaving out.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.[/p][/quote]It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.[/p][/quote]I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall.[/p][/quote]I agree we have always had to sell in the past, but for Venkys to come in and ship out an entire Premiership squad and replace them with what we have now is ridiculous. I repeat, they have consistently refused to fund a 'proper' manager and invest in quality players. Is it any wonder we are where we are? As for Appleton......He's on a hiding to nothing with the dross he inherited and the owners refusal to back him with proper funds.[/p][/quote]And I repeat that he is bringing in worse players than the ones he is either shipping out or leaving out. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -1

11:44am Wed 27 Feb 13

DanBlackburn says...

Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over. DanBlackburn
  • Score: 2

11:55am Wed 27 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 0

12:07pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Fortyfourer says...

Yet another stoppage time goal conceded!

No attack, no midfield, no defence!

Leaderless, Clueless, Gutless!

And just when we thought we were turning the corner.

Back to square one, back to thedrawing board!

No wonder Arsene was annoyed losing to this lot!
Yet another stoppage time goal conceded! No attack, no midfield, no defence! Leaderless, Clueless, Gutless! And just when we thought we were turning the corner. Back to square one, back to thedrawing board! No wonder Arsene was annoyed losing to this lot! Fortyfourer
  • Score: 4

12:12pm Wed 27 Feb 13

moh says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.
I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall.
I agree we have always had to sell in the past, but for Venkys to come in and ship out an entire Premiership squad and replace them with what we have now is ridiculous. I repeat, they have consistently refused to fund a 'proper' manager and invest in quality players. Is it any wonder we are where we are? As for Appleton......He's on a hiding to nothing with the dross he inherited and the owners refusal to back him with proper funds.
And I repeat that he is bringing in worse players than the ones he is either shipping out or leaving out.
Agree new signings Rekik, Campbell have been very ineffective and has not improved team. What a mistake to let Ruben go. With Henning at least we were attacking teams, its even dire now, Venkys sort it out. Most fans wanted an experienced manager/tactitian and we keep getting inexperienced novices. Where are you Shebby, speak to owners.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.[/p][/quote]It's all down to your friends, the Venkys refusal to fund a proper, experienced manager that most supporters wanted and invest in quality players rather than selling them.[/p][/quote]I have never disagreed that we should have appointed an accomplished, experienced manager and I readily acknowledge that Venkys have been ill advised by a succession of snake oil salesmen but BRFC have ALWAYS had to sell to survive as we have too few supporters prepared to stump up the required cash. I am a season ticket holder and most probably will be next year as well but that does not mean I have to go and witness this negative dross.Appleton has moved out better players than he has brought in and has no desire or ambition to do anything other than stone wall.[/p][/quote]I agree we have always had to sell in the past, but for Venkys to come in and ship out an entire Premiership squad and replace them with what we have now is ridiculous. I repeat, they have consistently refused to fund a 'proper' manager and invest in quality players. Is it any wonder we are where we are? As for Appleton......He's on a hiding to nothing with the dross he inherited and the owners refusal to back him with proper funds.[/p][/quote]And I repeat that he is bringing in worse players than the ones he is either shipping out or leaving out.[/p][/quote]Agree new signings Rekik, Campbell have been very ineffective and has not improved team. What a mistake to let Ruben go. With Henning at least we were attacking teams, its even dire now, Venkys sort it out. Most fans wanted an experienced manager/tactitian and we keep getting inexperienced novices. Where are you Shebby, speak to owners. moh
  • Score: 0

12:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13

madrover says...

dangerous dave wrote:
madrover wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!!
Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.
armchair supporter your opinion means nothing
Obviously does for you to make a comment!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
you must be related to singh because you talk so much s**t don't need suporters like you
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well Mr A where do we go from here - abysmal performance and thank god I did'nt pay and only listened to the radio!! Expected this result - with the likes of Murphy & Co - why the hell do we continue to play him - so its come home to roost loans/freebies on good wages that other clubs just dont want says it all!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE APPLETON.[/p][/quote]armchair supporter your opinion means nothing[/p][/quote]Obviously does for you to make a comment!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]you must be related to singh because you talk so much s**t don't need suporters like you madrover
  • Score: 0

12:28pm Wed 27 Feb 13

andyproc says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys

nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?
How many of these players engineered moves /were unwilling to play at a level other than Premership?? (Samba, N'Zonzi, Hoillett) How many players did the fans at the rime say "Good riddanceto?? (Andrews , Diouf , Santa Cruz) Jones got an offer nobody could refuse , Emerton was allowed to leave on the grounds of compassion and service. Nelsen left under a cloud although if stories are true assaulting the manager is a sacking offence in the real world.Salgado in my opinion although was willing was retained for a season too long (with hindsight of course!!) Kalanic was a prospect but only that he never achieved consistency. What Michael Appleton is doing is trying to achieve a balanced squad capable of getting out of the division. The time to judge him is this time next year when he has ascertained wh wants to be at the club, who is fit enough to continue at the club and replaced accordingly. I believe that he will get it right, it may be 2014 when we return to the Prem but Rome was built in a day never mind flattened and rebuilt!!
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?[/p][/quote]How many of these players engineered moves /were unwilling to play at a level other than Premership?? (Samba, N'Zonzi, Hoillett) How many players did the fans at the rime say "Good riddanceto?? (Andrews , Diouf , Santa Cruz) Jones got an offer nobody could refuse , Emerton was allowed to leave on the grounds of compassion and service. Nelsen left under a cloud although if stories are true assaulting the manager is a sacking offence in the real world.Salgado in my opinion although was willing was retained for a season too long (with hindsight of course!!) Kalanic was a prospect but only that he never achieved consistency. What Michael Appleton is doing is trying to achieve a balanced squad capable of getting out of the division. The time to judge him is this time next year when he has ascertained wh wants to be at the club, who is fit enough to continue at the club and replaced accordingly. I believe that he will get it right, it may be 2014 when we return to the Prem but Rome was built in a day never mind flattened and rebuilt!! andyproc
  • Score: 0

12:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Sherwoodforest says...

noddymcleod wrote:
Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws.
Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired.
The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable.
They were my concerns too when MA was appointed, I felt he was being brought if for a specific reason. Ie his experience in dealing with a financial mess.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws. Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired. The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable.[/p][/quote]They were my concerns too when MA was appointed, I felt he was being brought if for a specific reason. Ie his experience in dealing with a financial mess. Sherwoodforest
  • Score: 1

12:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

RobbyRover says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
LongWayFromHome wrote:
RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said!

Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)
I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?
I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed!

Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?!

Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man.

The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?).

He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LongWayFromHome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting[/p][/quote]You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)[/p][/quote]I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?[/p][/quote]I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed! Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?! Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man. The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?). He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back. RobbyRover
  • Score: 2

1:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13

moh says...

RobbyRover wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
LongWayFromHome wrote:
RobbyRover wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)
I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?
I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed! Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?! Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man. The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?). He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back.
Last night Oldham had a right go at Everton in second half after conceding 2 goals in first half. They missed a couple of sitters and scored one. What did Appleton do, advised players to keep it tight and not concede 3 or 4 goals. I'd rather have a go. Appletons track record is poor, all those draws at blckpool. What do you expect, nice bloke like Berg but poor manager/tactician.
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LongWayFromHome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting[/p][/quote]You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)[/p][/quote]I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?[/p][/quote]I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed! Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?! Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man. The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?). He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back.[/p][/quote]Last night Oldham had a right go at Everton in second half after conceding 2 goals in first half. They missed a couple of sitters and scored one. What did Appleton do, advised players to keep it tight and not concede 3 or 4 goals. I'd rather have a go. Appletons track record is poor, all those draws at blckpool. What do you expect, nice bloke like Berg but poor manager/tactician. moh
  • Score: 1

1:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

andyproc wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys

nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?
How many of these players engineered moves /were unwilling to play at a level other than Premership?? (Samba, N'Zonzi, Hoillett) How many players did the fans at the rime say "Good riddanceto?? (Andrews , Diouf , Santa Cruz) Jones got an offer nobody could refuse , Emerton was allowed to leave on the grounds of compassion and service. Nelsen left under a cloud although if stories are true assaulting the manager is a sacking offence in the real world.Salgado in my opinion although was willing was retained for a season too long (with hindsight of course!!) Kalanic was a prospect but only that he never achieved consistency. What Michael Appleton is doing is trying to achieve a balanced squad capable of getting out of the division. The time to judge him is this time next year when he has ascertained wh wants to be at the club, who is fit enough to continue at the club and replaced accordingly. I believe that he will get it right, it may be 2014 when we return to the Prem but Rome was built in a day never mind flattened and rebuilt!!
i wasn't trying to say that they wanted to stay (and for what it's worth - i despised diouf) - but my point is that we have not replaced like with like....hence my mention of rhodes being the only candidate from the current squad.
you may know more about individual departures than me but we only (publicly) have had kean's word for emerton's departure re: service - i don't know 'ewt about compassion. don't know about nelsen thumping kean (although if he did - maybe he was just doing his captain's duty to the club) i thought it was meant/rumoured to be n'zonzi - i do know kean said he worried that nelsen would never kick a ball again and played for spurs the following week. salgado wasI KNOW desperate to play and offered to waive any appearance nonsense in his contract.

i do agree with you that it is inappropriate to judge appleton now when he is managing a team and dealing with a club that resembles the tower of babel for over 2 years....he has to be given time and that time extends to transfers in and out over the summer and at least to christmas 2013 and hopefully into 2014 - dumping another manager would show that we have (as we all know) descended into a banana republic.
[quote][p][bold]andyproc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: for those that think we should still be a premiership club - consider what the squad included pre venkys nelsen, jones, salgado, samba, andrews, n'nonzi, emerton, santa cruz, hoilett diouf, kalanic......don't get me wrong there was also a batch of turkeys including grella, jacobsen, benjani, chimbonda (and others) - but looking at it seriously among the new entrants who, with the exception of rhodes, would get ahead of those names?[/p][/quote]How many of these players engineered moves /were unwilling to play at a level other than Premership?? (Samba, N'Zonzi, Hoillett) How many players did the fans at the rime say "Good riddanceto?? (Andrews , Diouf , Santa Cruz) Jones got an offer nobody could refuse , Emerton was allowed to leave on the grounds of compassion and service. Nelsen left under a cloud although if stories are true assaulting the manager is a sacking offence in the real world.Salgado in my opinion although was willing was retained for a season too long (with hindsight of course!!) Kalanic was a prospect but only that he never achieved consistency. What Michael Appleton is doing is trying to achieve a balanced squad capable of getting out of the division. The time to judge him is this time next year when he has ascertained wh wants to be at the club, who is fit enough to continue at the club and replaced accordingly. I believe that he will get it right, it may be 2014 when we return to the Prem but Rome was built in a day never mind flattened and rebuilt!![/p][/quote]i wasn't trying to say that they wanted to stay (and for what it's worth - i despised diouf) - but my point is that we have not replaced like with like....hence my mention of rhodes being the only candidate from the current squad. you may know more about individual departures than me but we only (publicly) have had kean's word for emerton's departure re: service - i don't know 'ewt about compassion. don't know about nelsen thumping kean (although if he did - maybe he was just doing his captain's duty to the club) i thought it was meant/rumoured to be n'zonzi - i do know kean said he worried that nelsen would never kick a ball again and played for spurs the following week. salgado wasI KNOW desperate to play and offered to waive any appearance nonsense in his contract. i do agree with you that it is inappropriate to judge appleton now when he is managing a team and dealing with a club that resembles the tower of babel for over 2 years....he has to be given time and that time extends to transfers in and out over the summer and at least to christmas 2013 and hopefully into 2014 - dumping another manager would show that we have (as we all know) descended into a banana republic. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

1:47pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Wild Rover says...

With one or two exceptions a thread full of silly comments, especially as Loopy of Accy is bigging up Kean
So we lost at Leicester, oohh
We were all sh*** on the night so what
With one or two exceptions a thread full of silly comments, especially as Loopy of Accy is bigging up Kean So we lost at Leicester, oohh We were all sh*** on the night so what Wild Rover
  • Score: 0

2:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

RobbyRover says...

moh wrote:
RobbyRover wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
LongWayFromHome wrote:
RobbyRover wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)
I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?
I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed! Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?! Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man. The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?). He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back.
Last night Oldham had a right go at Everton in second half after conceding 2 goals in first half. They missed a couple of sitters and scored one. What did Appleton do, advised players to keep it tight and not concede 3 or 4 goals. I'd rather have a go. Appletons track record is poor, all those draws at blckpool. What do you expect, nice bloke like Berg but poor manager/tactician.
After last season I'd rather play boring football and not lose. Granted we did lose last night, but he's disciplining them not to go gung ho when the chips are down - not too bad an idea after what we've had! Hes inherited a team that shipped goals for fun... so what's he done? Concentrated on not conceeding. Nothing wrong with that in my book!

Fact is we've been left up the creek. It's not about renovating a palace, it's building up a destroyed old barn in to something sturdy. Lay the foundations then build on them. I'm prepared to give him time and be patient!

Like I say, it would be much easier to have a go with Olsson, Kaz and King's pace running at people. DJ looks like a dud, Bentley has never been overly pacey and MGP? Nope. We don't have that atm. Not Appy's fault most of our midfield are Grella'd!
[quote][p][bold]moh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LongWayFromHome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting[/p][/quote]You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)[/p][/quote]I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?[/p][/quote]I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed! Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?! Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man. The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?). He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back.[/p][/quote]Last night Oldham had a right go at Everton in second half after conceding 2 goals in first half. They missed a couple of sitters and scored one. What did Appleton do, advised players to keep it tight and not concede 3 or 4 goals. I'd rather have a go. Appletons track record is poor, all those draws at blckpool. What do you expect, nice bloke like Berg but poor manager/tactician.[/p][/quote]After last season I'd rather play boring football and not lose. Granted we did lose last night, but he's disciplining them not to go gung ho when the chips are down - not too bad an idea after what we've had! Hes inherited a team that shipped goals for fun... so what's he done? Concentrated on not conceeding. Nothing wrong with that in my book! Fact is we've been left up the creek. It's not about renovating a palace, it's building up a destroyed old barn in to something sturdy. Lay the foundations then build on them. I'm prepared to give him time and be patient! Like I say, it would be much easier to have a go with Olsson, Kaz and King's pace running at people. DJ looks like a dud, Bentley has never been overly pacey and MGP? Nope. We don't have that atm. Not Appy's fault most of our midfield are Grella'd! RobbyRover
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Wed 27 Feb 13

oreilly21 says...

February was always going to be be a very tough month.
onwards and upwards. its all about next season at this rate!
February was always going to be be a very tough month. onwards and upwards. its all about next season at this rate! oreilly21
  • Score: 0

2:17pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Sturdy_Rover says...

We are not ready for premiership football, I would hate to become another qpr and stay in a relegation battle the entire season. Come end of the season more than a few of the players will need to be replaced with ones who will do the job. I hope Rovers will still be trying for promotion even though I doubt that dream will flourish this season.
We are not ready for premiership football, I would hate to become another qpr and stay in a relegation battle the entire season. Come end of the season more than a few of the players will need to be replaced with ones who will do the job. I hope Rovers will still be trying for promotion even though I doubt that dream will flourish this season. Sturdy_Rover
  • Score: 0

3:06pm Wed 27 Feb 13

MxMave says...

whappen wrote:
MxMave wrote:
We had an easy run of fixtures and all of a sudden we were promotion hopefuls. It was always blatantly obvious that the harder games would see the side faulter, our wins were never convincing. Brighton & Leeds both outplayed us. The problem we have at the minute is strategic. When we attack we commit 3 players, 1 in the box, no pressing whatsoever. Other teams press us into our own half in possession and we cant get back out. When was the last time Murphy and/or Lowe were in the box other than from a set piece? I'm still struggling to understand why Appleton thinks that substitutes are a part of the crowd or that he doesn't want to upset anyone by substituting them. His job as the manager is to change the game in our favor when its tight or when were loosing and yet he seems utterly content to let the game ride out without any intervention. Surely changing the game on the fly is a good 50% of his job? For me Appleton's a waste of time, another inexperienced coach that was hired on the cheap. We need a manager who's proven, we are a historic club - we deserve better than second rate coaches - before Steve Kean the idea of having an untested manager would have been ludacris so why do we accept it now?!
Kendall, Harford, Kidd? You could include Paul Ince as well.

One excellent, three not so good. Add Kean and it's one in five. You'd think we'd have learnt wouldn't you?

Appleton still has to cope with the Kean legacy. It's unfair to judge him until he's had the Summer to re-assess what he's got, what he needs and what he ends up with, dependant on what the owners let him have.

I don't like those odds though.
We really should use this time to scrap what we have and write the rest of the season off with the aim of having a good year next time. If Appleton doesn't start looking to create more going forwar in the next few games i'd suggest we cut our losses and pay decent money for a top manager before summer. Can't see Venkys investing much in summer post-snowballgate.
[quote][p][bold]whappen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: We had an easy run of fixtures and all of a sudden we were promotion hopefuls. It was always blatantly obvious that the harder games would see the side faulter, our wins were never convincing. Brighton & Leeds both outplayed us. The problem we have at the minute is strategic. When we attack we commit 3 players, 1 in the box, no pressing whatsoever. Other teams press us into our own half in possession and we cant get back out. When was the last time Murphy and/or Lowe were in the box other than from a set piece? I'm still struggling to understand why Appleton thinks that substitutes are a part of the crowd or that he doesn't want to upset anyone by substituting them. His job as the manager is to change the game in our favor when its tight or when were loosing and yet he seems utterly content to let the game ride out without any intervention. Surely changing the game on the fly is a good 50% of his job? For me Appleton's a waste of time, another inexperienced coach that was hired on the cheap. We need a manager who's proven, we are a historic club - we deserve better than second rate coaches - before Steve Kean the idea of having an untested manager would have been ludacris so why do we accept it now?![/p][/quote]Kendall, Harford, Kidd? You could include Paul Ince as well. One excellent, three not so good. Add Kean and it's one in five. You'd think we'd have learnt wouldn't you? Appleton still has to cope with the Kean legacy. It's unfair to judge him until he's had the Summer to re-assess what he's got, what he needs and what he ends up with, dependant on what the owners let him have. I don't like those odds though.[/p][/quote]We really should use this time to scrap what we have and write the rest of the season off with the aim of having a good year next time. If Appleton doesn't start looking to create more going forwar in the next few games i'd suggest we cut our losses and pay decent money for a top manager before summer. Can't see Venkys investing much in summer post-snowballgate. MxMave
  • Score: 1

3:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

RobbyRover wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
LongWayFromHome wrote:
RobbyRover wrote:
Let's put this in to context;

We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment?

This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get.

Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table.

And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.
Well said!

Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting
You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)
I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?
I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed!

Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?!

Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man.

The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?).

He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back.
Robbie Rover, If you look at my posts you will see I'm not having a go at Appleton. He hasn't been here long enough to be judged and hasn't been backed in the transfer market by the owners, in my opinion.
The demise of Rovers over the last two and a half years is purely down to Venkys, through their cheapskate dealings and their insistence in employing inexperienced managers / Coaches.
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LongWayFromHome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Let's put this in to context; We're missing Olsson, Williamson, Etuhu, Kaz, King, Henley, Best and more. For once we genuinely have huge injury problems, especially in midfield. Murphy and Lowe haven't been great, but what other option is there at the moment? This season we've gone Kean -> Black -> Berg -> Appleton... how many teams go through four managers in a season and achieve promotion, or any kind of success? And right from the word go, thanks entirely to Kean, the players have never been as fit as they needed to be. You can't start a season like that, despite how many fortunate results you get. Promotion with all that would be a remarkable achievment. We won't get it, but no use crying over spilt milk. Let's let Appy build something for next season then really launch an assault on the top of the table. And with any luck, when we get promoted this time next year, Shebby will be asked about it on his talkshow on Malaysian TV and Steve Kean will be nowhere to be seen.[/p][/quote]Well said! Seems that a few moaners, seem to forget, what has happened for the last two years also become very spoilt over the last 20 yrs of success. Yes we have lost two away games against two of the better sides in the league. also we still have a young team, and no matter their talent, their confidence can be knocked very easily.... so stop moaning and start supporting[/p][/quote]You obviously don't see many matches. We've a right to moan. Last night was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed in almost 60 years of following Rovers (certainly in the top10 of sh8 played)[/p][/quote]I agree with you, and at the same time I am amazed at the number of so called supporters who seem quite happy with the way things are going down at Ewood these days. What planet are they from?[/p][/quote]I never stated I was happy with things at the moment..? Having said that, at the start of the season if someone had said to me we'd have lost Kean and be close to top 10 I wouldn't be that disappointed! Appy has been in charge for 10 games in total, and won 4. When was the last time Rovers had a manager with a 40% win ratio?! Yes the football hasn't been good in the last 3 games... but as I said, Olssen, Williamson, CKR, Best, King, Hanley, Etuhu all out. He's not necessarily electing to play Murphy and Lowe there - he has no other option!! You cant seriously argue that we wouldn't be much stronger side with Olssen and King pushing for a spot in the midfield?? Get away man. The one thing Appy has done is he's made us harder to beat. Yes, we were crap last night... but a Kean/Berg team would have had to score goals to not lose as we couldn't keep a clean sheet. I'd take a 0-0 draw with Leeds over a 2-0 loss away to Blackpool. (Interestingly, when can you remember Rovers ever having a 0-0 scoreline under Kean? Was there ever one?). He's made us more organised and tightened up the defence. It's not ideal, but I'd certainly not slate him until he's had a shot at a team with those injured players back.[/p][/quote]Robbie Rover, If you look at my posts you will see I'm not having a go at Appleton. He hasn't been here long enough to be judged and hasn't been backed in the transfer market by the owners, in my opinion. The demise of Rovers over the last two and a half years is purely down to Venkys, through their cheapskate dealings and their insistence in employing inexperienced managers / Coaches. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

3:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

jackmetickler says...

in olden days when times were gritty .... being 2-0 down we could look forward to coming out guns a blazing and Simon Garner starting a comeback .... winning say 5-2 :
So I suppose if we go behind the plan is to defend and not lose 2 or 3 nil.
Great.

Thats Entertainment!!

Best you beat the Dingles MA.
Can forgive most things.... but not losing to the dingles.
in olden days when times were gritty .... being 2-0 down we could look forward to coming out guns a blazing and Simon Garner starting a comeback .... winning say 5-2 : So I suppose if we go behind the plan is to defend and not lose 2 or 3 nil. Great. Thats Entertainment!! Best you beat the Dingles MA. Can forgive most things.... but not losing to the dingles. jackmetickler
  • Score: 1

3:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

noddymcleod says...

Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ? noddymcleod
  • Score: 0

3:59pm Wed 27 Feb 13

A Darener says...

I think memories may be playing tricks. I seem to remember Simon scoring 5 against Derby. Also rovers coming back from 2 down to win 5 2 against Plymouth. Two different matches.
I think memories may be playing tricks. I seem to remember Simon scoring 5 against Derby. Also rovers coming back from 2 down to win 5 2 against Plymouth. Two different matches. A Darener
  • Score: 0

4:01pm Wed 27 Feb 13

noddymcleod says...

Just remembered semi-final play-offs 1992 when we were 2-0 down at home to Derby with Kevin Moran leading on the field and King Kenny in charge, we went on to win 4-2. I suppose if Apple had been in charge, he would have told his captain to concentrate on not letting in any more goals.
Oh happy days.
Just remembered semi-final play-offs 1992 when we were 2-0 down at home to Derby with Kevin Moran leading on the field and King Kenny in charge, we went on to win 4-2. I suppose if Apple had been in charge, he would have told his captain to concentrate on not letting in any more goals. Oh happy days. noddymcleod
  • Score: 1

4:12pm Wed 27 Feb 13

merlinrabbit says...

chez rover wrote:
I've been really happy with Appletons coments after every game but a half time team talk should not consist of "lets not get battered". Surely it should be more along the lines of. Go out there, show you've got a pair and get something out of this game!...... or words to that effect. Really dissapointed in that comment.
Whilst his comments have been much improved on means, he always sounds honest but defeatist. He also looks so miserable. Makes me wonder what he's working within. Berg looked miserable too.
[quote][p][bold]chez rover[/bold] wrote: I've been really happy with Appletons coments after every game but a half time team talk should not consist of "lets not get battered". Surely it should be more along the lines of. Go out there, show you've got a pair and get something out of this game!...... or words to that effect. Really dissapointed in that comment.[/p][/quote]Whilst his comments have been much improved on means, he always sounds honest but defeatist. He also looks so miserable. Makes me wonder what he's working within. Berg looked miserable too. merlinrabbit
  • Score: 1

4:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

juanbbien says...

It's alright saying we need to get rid of the deadwood,we all know this but is it going to happen,we should not have been lumbered with them in the first place,but this is the Venkys for you,so I can't see anything amazingly different going to happen next season,because Venkys dont or don't want to know the principles of what it takes because they are not interested in us from that aspect,hence why you never see them,so why are they going to Invest millions,and judging by what's been brought in on loan who could you trust to identify the right players anyway,I honestly fear for us.
It's alright saying we need to get rid of the deadwood,we all know this but is it going to happen,we should not have been lumbered with them in the first place,but this is the Venkys for you,so I can't see anything amazingly different going to happen next season,because Venkys dont or don't want to know the principles of what it takes because they are not interested in us from that aspect,hence why you never see them,so why are they going to Invest millions,and judging by what's been brought in on loan who could you trust to identify the right players anyway,I honestly fear for us. juanbbien
  • Score: 1

4:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

benal13 says...

Sherwoodforest wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws.
Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired.
The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable.
They were my concerns too when MA was appointed, I felt he was being brought if for a specific reason. Ie his experience in dealing with a financial mess.
he was brought in because of his friendship with SHAW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
[quote][p][bold]Sherwoodforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws. Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired. The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable.[/p][/quote]They were my concerns too when MA was appointed, I felt he was being brought if for a specific reason. Ie his experience in dealing with a financial mess.[/p][/quote]he was brought in because of his friendship with SHAW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! benal13
  • Score: 2

4:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

benal13 says...

noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH benal13
  • Score: -1

4:46pm Wed 27 Feb 13

StLedge says...

benal13 wrote:
Sherwoodforest wrote:
noddymcleod wrote: Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws. Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired. The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable.
They were my concerns too when MA was appointed, I felt he was being brought if for a specific reason. Ie his experience in dealing with a financial mess.
he was brought in because of his friendship with SHAW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
*Breaking News on the Conspiracy Wheel*... 2 men in football know each other...!
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sherwoodforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Avoiding relegation has been my best case scenario all season. Apple might just do that with a few more scraped wins against poorer teams and some bore draws. Then we'll see his true value as Venkys leave and he's left to tidy up an abandoned ship - the job he did at Pompey and why he's been hired. The notion that he's an up-and-coming manager to put us back in th Premiership is laughable.[/p][/quote]They were my concerns too when MA was appointed, I felt he was being brought if for a specific reason. Ie his experience in dealing with a financial mess.[/p][/quote]he was brought in because of his friendship with SHAW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![/p][/quote]*Breaking News on the Conspiracy Wheel*... 2 men in football know each other...! StLedge
  • Score: 1

5:31pm Wed 27 Feb 13

bronsky says...

Crap team Crap owners Crap manager .New name for this team could be Crap Rovers.
Crap team Crap owners Crap manager .New name for this team could be Crap Rovers. bronsky
  • Score: -1

5:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13

moh says...

PersianRover wrote:
Getting rid of our most creative players isn't the solution, as some have thought.. If it is true Nunes will soon be out, as he is being frozen out, seems the case, I would be very very disappointed. He looks very sharp and aggressive too.
He put a few decent crosses early in season and we also scored from them. Agree he should be given a chance. The only problem according to Appleton maybe he cannot defend, defend and wrestle with opposition players etc.
[quote][p][bold]PersianRover[/bold] wrote: Getting rid of our most creative players isn't the solution, as some have thought.. If it is true Nunes will soon be out, as he is being frozen out, seems the case, I would be very very disappointed. He looks very sharp and aggressive too.[/p][/quote]He put a few decent crosses early in season and we also scored from them. Agree he should be given a chance. The only problem according to Appleton maybe he cannot defend, defend and wrestle with opposition players etc. moh
  • Score: 0

5:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13

A Darener says...

The optimism of the last few weeks has gone. Normal service has been resumed. The moaners have come out of hiding. The optimists have retreated back into their shells. Apart from thrashing the Dingles I am afraid we have nothing to look forward to over the next few months.
The optimism of the last few weeks has gone. Normal service has been resumed. The moaners have come out of hiding. The optimists have retreated back into their shells. Apart from thrashing the Dingles I am afraid we have nothing to look forward to over the next few months. A Darener
  • Score: 0

6:03pm Wed 27 Feb 13

DanBlackburn says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake. DanBlackburn
  • Score: 0

6:17pm Wed 27 Feb 13

RoversMCMLXXV says...

bronsky wrote:
Crap team Crap owners Crap manager .New name for this team could be Crap Rovers.
crap global advisor, crap sponsor, crap woman with crap haircut making fundamental crap decisions who has a brother that looks like someones done a crap above his top lip. What a load of..........
[quote][p][bold]bronsky[/bold] wrote: Crap team Crap owners Crap manager .New name for this team could be Crap Rovers.[/p][/quote]crap global advisor, crap sponsor, crap woman with crap haircut making fundamental crap decisions who has a brother that looks like someones done a crap above his top lip. What a load of.......... RoversMCMLXXV
  • Score: 3

6:44pm Wed 27 Feb 13

MatthewCA says...

very poor three goals, I cannot imagine this headed goals...............
very bad to watch in this level.
very poor three goals, I cannot imagine this headed goals............... very bad to watch in this level. MatthewCA
  • Score: 0

6:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

walshy2866 says...

So have all the deluded easily pleased lot who were talking 3 wembley dates and promotion back to where they BELIEVE we belong finally woke up to the realisation that until venkys & the waste of space entourage they employ are gone we're going nowhere?
Can't believe they were so easily lead back into the band-wagon they mounted back in the spring of 1992. I'll be there Saturday, as I have been for the last 40 years, living thro the junk they'll be serving up. Big difference is I can except that being a proper fan this is part of the highs and lows game supporting a team brings!
So have all the deluded easily pleased lot who were talking 3 wembley dates and promotion back to where they BELIEVE we belong finally woke up to the realisation that until venkys & the waste of space entourage they employ are gone we're going nowhere? Can't believe they were so easily lead back into the band-wagon they mounted back in the spring of 1992. I'll be there Saturday, as I have been for the last 40 years, living thro the junk they'll be serving up. Big difference is I can except that being a proper fan this is part of the highs and lows game supporting a team brings! walshy2866
  • Score: 0

6:53pm Wed 27 Feb 13

merlinrabbit says...

juanbbien wrote:
It's alright saying we need to get rid of the deadwood,we all know this but is it going to happen,we should not have been lumbered with them in the first place,but this is the Venkys for you,so I can't see anything amazingly different going to happen next season,because Venkys dont or don't want to know the principles of what it takes because they are not interested in us from that aspect,hence why you never see them,so why are they going to Invest millions,and judging by what's been brought in on loan who could you trust to identify the right players anyway,I honestly fear for us.
I thought that Appleton had got rid of the deadwood. People on here defended his shipping out vuckevic, rochina etc. Everybody said he was right and the squad needed thinning out so that we just had players who want to play. What was the point when he brought in more deadwood to replace them and as yet they aren't even as good as what we've lost
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: It's alright saying we need to get rid of the deadwood,we all know this but is it going to happen,we should not have been lumbered with them in the first place,but this is the Venkys for you,so I can't see anything amazingly different going to happen next season,because Venkys dont or don't want to know the principles of what it takes because they are not interested in us from that aspect,hence why you never see them,so why are they going to Invest millions,and judging by what's been brought in on loan who could you trust to identify the right players anyway,I honestly fear for us.[/p][/quote]I thought that Appleton had got rid of the deadwood. People on here defended his shipping out vuckevic, rochina etc. Everybody said he was right and the squad needed thinning out so that we just had players who want to play. What was the point when he brought in more deadwood to replace them and as yet they aren't even as good as what we've lost merlinrabbit
  • Score: 1

6:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

7:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

MatthewCA says...

12 games, another 36 points........., in this ratio we will win only 4 games and 3 draw so we will end with 60 points and a mid table finish.

So FA cup is better entertainer - hope.
12 games, another 36 points........., in this ratio we will win only 4 games and 3 draw so we will end with 60 points and a mid table finish. So FA cup is better entertainer - hope. MatthewCA
  • Score: 0

7:23pm Wed 27 Feb 13

RoverInRotterdam says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969 RoverInRotterdam
  • Score: 3

7:28pm Wed 27 Feb 13

passingfootball says...

last 4 league games, 7 goals conceded and only one goal scored, and that from a set piece, whatever appletons master plan is, its faulty, appletons tactics are such that if they win by 2 goals, it feels like theyve thrashed the other team, the way he sets his teams up i suspect his teams rarely score 3, i bet they have never scored 4 or five

next match only play players if they are going to be in their best positions, or keep them out and make no room for sentiment, that shut out job against arsenal was a one-off and not a viable way to go about things, each player should be judged in their last performance
last 4 league games, 7 goals conceded and only one goal scored, and that from a set piece, whatever appletons master plan is, its faulty, appletons tactics are such that if they win by 2 goals, it feels like theyve thrashed the other team, the way he sets his teams up i suspect his teams rarely score 3, i bet they have never scored 4 or five next match only play players if they are going to be in their best positions, or keep them out and make no room for sentiment, that shut out job against arsenal was a one-off and not a viable way to go about things, each player should be judged in their last performance passingfootball
  • Score: 0

7:50pm Wed 27 Feb 13

French Rover says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice.

MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve.

Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ...
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice. MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve. Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ... French Rover
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

RoverInRotterdam wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969
I said the same about the Berg sacking, that they got rid as he wanted new players. They then bring a manager in half way through the transfer window and give him nothing to spend.
A commenter on here a day or two ago summed it up perfectly, quote "Venkeys have shown their intentions after successfully negotiating their way through the January transfer window without spending a penny "
[quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969[/p][/quote]I said the same about the Berg sacking, that they got rid as he wanted new players. They then bring a manager in half way through the transfer window and give him nothing to spend. A commenter on here a day or two ago summed it up perfectly, quote "Venkeys have shown their intentions after successfully negotiating their way through the January transfer window without spending a penny " Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

8:08pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

French Rover wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice.

MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve.

Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ...
Do you actually read these posts?.....where have I criticised Appleton? I called him an inexperienced manager because that is what he is.
I suggest you look back at my earlier posts on this thread and you will see where I have defended him. You are having a go at the wrong person.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice. MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve. Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ...[/p][/quote]Do you actually read these posts?.....where have I criticised Appleton? I called him an inexperienced manager because that is what he is. I suggest you look back at my earlier posts on this thread and you will see where I have defended him. You are having a go at the wrong person. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Wed 27 Feb 13

dansker says...

we have the players--but the wrong manager!!!
we have the players--but the wrong manager!!! dansker
  • Score: -1

8:46pm Wed 27 Feb 13

RoverInRotterdam says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
RoverInRotterdam wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969
I said the same about the Berg sacking, that they got rid as he wanted new players. They then bring a manager in half way through the transfer window and give him nothing to spend.
A commenter on here a day or two ago summed it up perfectly, quote "Venkeys have shown their intentions after successfully negotiating their way through the January transfer window without spending a penny "
That quote just about puts it in a nutshell really, and I must admit that I fail to understand why some people are still under the mistaken belief that the venkys will do the right thing for the Club eventually. If the money would have been made available for either Berg or Appleton,we would have had a very good chance of getting at least in the playoffs and a decent chance of promotion? So the question we all have to ask is; Why have the venkys turned their back on a chance to get us back in the Premiership and the riches that go with it? I don't think you need a degree in rocket science to work out that they have no interest in the Club, The asset players have long been sold off and there is very few assets left at the Club, they have had interference from the likes of Jack Straw contacting the Indian Goverment , Interference that they will not welcome at all. Does anyone believe that they think of us supporters with anything other than contempt, Especially after the justified abuse (and snowball) they received at Ewood recently? What would we do with the Club under those circumstances and with that hatred toward US ? . We may get our Club back sooner than we think,but in what condition? .. R.T.I.D.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969[/p][/quote]I said the same about the Berg sacking, that they got rid as he wanted new players. They then bring a manager in half way through the transfer window and give him nothing to spend. A commenter on here a day or two ago summed it up perfectly, quote "Venkeys have shown their intentions after successfully negotiating their way through the January transfer window without spending a penny "[/p][/quote]That quote just about puts it in a nutshell really, and I must admit that I fail to understand why some people are still under the mistaken belief that the venkys will do the right thing for the Club eventually. If the money would have been made available for either Berg or Appleton,we would have had a very good chance of getting at least in the playoffs and a decent chance of promotion? So the question we all have to ask is; Why have the venkys turned their back on a chance to get us back in the Premiership and the riches that go with it? I don't think you need a degree in rocket science to work out that they have no interest in the Club, The asset players have long been sold off and there is very few assets left at the Club, they have had interference from the likes of Jack Straw contacting the Indian Goverment , Interference that they will not welcome at all. Does anyone believe that they think of us supporters with anything other than contempt, Especially after the justified abuse (and snowball) they received at Ewood recently? What would we do with the Club under those circumstances and with that hatred toward US ? . We may get our Club back sooner than we think,but in what condition? .. R.T.I.D. RoverInRotterdam
  • Score: 1

8:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

French Rover says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice.

MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve.

Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ...
Do you actually read these posts?.....where have I criticised Appleton? I called him an inexperienced manager because that is what he is.
I suggest you look back at my earlier posts on this thread and you will see where I have defended him. You are having a go at the wrong person.
I am not meaning to have a go at you Harwoodstblue, and I can see you didn't slag MA off directly....

I am just so bleeding frustrated that we start at long last to see some blue sky at Ewood and people starting to praise the manager (quite rightly) for doing the simple things right - but then we get a couple of poor results and performances and suddenly he is the worst thing since sliced meatloaf.

Appleton needs time and some decent funds to prove his worth and another season for sure. This season is all about consolidation now and building to have a real go to get out of this league next season.

I just hope that the majority of fans can give him that time and almost more importantly I hope that the Venky's back him too.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice. MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve. Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ...[/p][/quote]Do you actually read these posts?.....where have I criticised Appleton? I called him an inexperienced manager because that is what he is. I suggest you look back at my earlier posts on this thread and you will see where I have defended him. You are having a go at the wrong person.[/p][/quote]I am not meaning to have a go at you Harwoodstblue, and I can see you didn't slag MA off directly.... I am just so bleeding frustrated that we start at long last to see some blue sky at Ewood and people starting to praise the manager (quite rightly) for doing the simple things right - but then we get a couple of poor results and performances and suddenly he is the worst thing since sliced meatloaf. Appleton needs time and some decent funds to prove his worth and another season for sure. This season is all about consolidation now and building to have a real go to get out of this league next season. I just hope that the majority of fans can give him that time and almost more importantly I hope that the Venky's back him too. French Rover
  • Score: -1

9:15pm Wed 27 Feb 13

peely says...

benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ! peely
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Wed 27 Feb 13

RoverInRotterdam says...

French Rover wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice.

MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve.

Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ...
Do you actually read these posts?.....where have I criticised Appleton? I called him an inexperienced manager because that is what he is.
I suggest you look back at my earlier posts on this thread and you will see where I have defended him. You are having a go at the wrong person.
I am not meaning to have a go at you Harwoodstblue, and I can see you didn't slag MA off directly....

I am just so bleeding frustrated that we start at long last to see some blue sky at Ewood and people starting to praise the manager (quite rightly) for doing the simple things right - but then we get a couple of poor results and performances and suddenly he is the worst thing since sliced meatloaf.

Appleton needs time and some decent funds to prove his worth and another season for sure. This season is all about consolidation now and building to have a real go to get out of this league next season.

I just hope that the majority of fans can give him that time and almost more importantly I hope that the Venky's back him too.
If Appleton and Berg beore him would have been given the backing that they both sorely needed,then maybe they would have merited critisism after a couple of months fielding THEIR squads, but Berg was sacked even before he had the chance to put his list in for the upcoming transfer window,wheras Appleton got as far as putting his request in, but ultimately without the backing from the venkys, so as far as i'm concerned he is on a hiding to nothing ,how can he be expected to succeed with a squad that has at most 3 quality players, with the remainder being either too old, mercenaries or just not good enough. He seems a genuine bloke to me.but i'll bet he knows by now just what he's got himself into with taking the job.....R.T.I.D..
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]Kean and Appleton are about a million miles apart in character and football knowledge and management skills. To even mention them in the same post is doing MA a very bad injustice. MA is already at a 40% win ratio and with some very winnable games to come and players to come back from injury then that can only improve. Some folks on here need a dose of reality concerning all things Rovers ...[/p][/quote]Do you actually read these posts?.....where have I criticised Appleton? I called him an inexperienced manager because that is what he is. I suggest you look back at my earlier posts on this thread and you will see where I have defended him. You are having a go at the wrong person.[/p][/quote]I am not meaning to have a go at you Harwoodstblue, and I can see you didn't slag MA off directly.... I am just so bleeding frustrated that we start at long last to see some blue sky at Ewood and people starting to praise the manager (quite rightly) for doing the simple things right - but then we get a couple of poor results and performances and suddenly he is the worst thing since sliced meatloaf. Appleton needs time and some decent funds to prove his worth and another season for sure. This season is all about consolidation now and building to have a real go to get out of this league next season. I just hope that the majority of fans can give him that time and almost more importantly I hope that the Venky's back him too.[/p][/quote]If Appleton and Berg beore him would have been given the backing that they both sorely needed,then maybe they would have merited critisism after a couple of months fielding THEIR squads, but Berg was sacked even before he had the chance to put his list in for the upcoming transfer window,wheras Appleton got as far as putting his request in, but ultimately without the backing from the venkys, so as far as i'm concerned he is on a hiding to nothing ,how can he be expected to succeed with a squad that has at most 3 quality players, with the remainder being either too old, mercenaries or just not good enough. He seems a genuine bloke to me.but i'll bet he knows by now just what he's got himself into with taking the job.....R.T.I.D.. RoverInRotterdam
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9:31pm Wed 27 Feb 13

blueblooded says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
I said on this forum a few weeks ago that Appleton needs to be certain that the players he's bringing into the club are better than the ones we already have.

After getting rid of a lot of the so called 'deadwood' at the club in January he brought in the likes of Rekik and Campbell.

Rekik (a defender) made his Rovers' debut at Hull City playing out of position on the leftside of midfield.
In the last 2 games he has played at left fullback.
His he really any better at fullback than Gael Givet?
Givet has been on the subs bench for almost every game this year without ever making an appearance. Why?
Is the reason contractual?

Similarly, is Campbell any better than Gomes or Goodwillie?
On his performances to date I don't think he is.

With regards to Pederson. It was clear 4 years ago that he was no longer a winger. That is why Sam Allardyce played him in central midfield in a 5 across the middle.

As most of the fans know, our main problem is in central midfield where the likes of Murphy, Lowe, Etuhu are just not god enough.
Apart from bringing in Williamson (now injured) Appleton has done nothing to improve this area and we hae been brushed aside by decent teams such as Brighton, Hull and Leicester.

In hs first few days at the club, Appleton talked alot of sense and I thought that we had managed to appoint a decent manager at long last.
Whilst I have not given up on him, I have recently been disappointed with some of his loan signings, his negative tactics, and his reluctance to use subs to try and win games.
His half-time team talk 'don't let us get thumped 5 or 6' seems to sum it all up.
pretty much sums up my feelings r7 and likely most other fans who watched the game last night. Appleton might talk more sense than the previous rabble, but his tactics leave a lot to be desired.

I'm struggling trying to understand from game to game what his tactics for individual teams are frankly. I know we're short of quality attackers but he doesn't seem to know how to change the game when his initial plan obviously doesn't seem to be working. excepting last nights half time substitutions, he seems to be at sea when we're stagnant and the game needs a boost with decent players on the bench failing to make an appearance.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I said on this forum a few weeks ago that Appleton needs to be certain that the players he's bringing into the club are better than the ones we already have. After getting rid of a lot of the so called 'deadwood' at the club in January he brought in the likes of Rekik and Campbell. Rekik (a defender) made his Rovers' debut at Hull City playing out of position on the leftside of midfield. In the last 2 games he has played at left fullback. His he really any better at fullback than Gael Givet? Givet has been on the subs bench for almost every game this year without ever making an appearance. Why? Is the reason contractual? Similarly, is Campbell any better than Gomes or Goodwillie? On his performances to date I don't think he is. With regards to Pederson. It was clear 4 years ago that he was no longer a winger. That is why Sam Allardyce played him in central midfield in a 5 across the middle. As most of the fans know, our main problem is in central midfield where the likes of Murphy, Lowe, Etuhu are just not god enough. Apart from bringing in Williamson (now injured) Appleton has done nothing to improve this area and we hae been brushed aside by decent teams such as Brighton, Hull and Leicester. In hs first few days at the club, Appleton talked alot of sense and I thought that we had managed to appoint a decent manager at long last. Whilst I have not given up on him, I have recently been disappointed with some of his loan signings, his negative tactics, and his reluctance to use subs to try and win games. His half-time team talk 'don't let us get thumped 5 or 6' seems to sum it all up.[/p][/quote]pretty much sums up my feelings r7 and likely most other fans who watched the game last night. Appleton might talk more sense than the previous rabble, but his tactics leave a lot to be desired. I'm struggling trying to understand from game to game what his tactics for individual teams are frankly. I know we're short of quality attackers but he doesn't seem to know how to change the game when his initial plan obviously doesn't seem to be working. excepting last nights half time substitutions, he seems to be at sea when we're stagnant and the game needs a boost with decent players on the bench failing to make an appearance. blueblooded
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9:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

RoverInRotterdam wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
RoverInRotterdam wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
Some people need a reality check.

On paper we have one of the best squads in the league.

On grass one of the poorest teams.

I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands.

Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record.

What did we really expect?

If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it.

We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team.
well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud.

I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.
Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.
What?

I would never suggest that are you mad.

I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything.

I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager.

It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.
They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them.
Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.
One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969
I said the same about the Berg sacking, that they got rid as he wanted new players. They then bring a manager in half way through the transfer window and give him nothing to spend.
A commenter on here a day or two ago summed it up perfectly, quote "Venkeys have shown their intentions after successfully negotiating their way through the January transfer window without spending a penny "
That quote just about puts it in a nutshell really, and I must admit that I fail to understand why some people are still under the mistaken belief that the venkys will do the right thing for the Club eventually. If the money would have been made available for either Berg or Appleton,we would have had a very good chance of getting at least in the playoffs and a decent chance of promotion? So the question we all have to ask is; Why have the venkys turned their back on a chance to get us back in the Premiership and the riches that go with it? I don't think you need a degree in rocket science to work out that they have no interest in the Club, The asset players have long been sold off and there is very few assets left at the Club, they have had interference from the likes of Jack Straw contacting the Indian Goverment , Interference that they will not welcome at all. Does anyone believe that they think of us supporters with anything other than contempt, Especially after the justified abuse (and snowball) they received at Ewood recently? What would we do with the Club under those circumstances and with that hatred toward US ? . We may get our Club back sooner than we think,but in what condition? .. R.T.I.D.
interference from jack straw?

jack has tried to meet with the venkys numerous times to try and act as a conduit between the family and the town - writing directly to desai and the family --- constantly ignored. finally a response came through asking "is this the real jack straw?" i have seen the e.mail trail.

funny how they listen and take the advice of an arsenal stadium announcer and yet ignore the town's mp, ex home secretary and foreign sec. you can like or hate straw - but he has always sought to do the right thing by rovers
[quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: Some people need a reality check. On paper we have one of the best squads in the league. On grass one of the poorest teams. I have not missed a home game since The Odious One left and have been to many away as I live in the Midlands. Venkys have shown their continuing stupidity and lack of ambition by head hunting Appleton. Its a joke, he is Shaw's mate an unproven coach with a dreadful record. What did we really expect? If McCarthy had our squad at his disposal we would have been in the play off positions now. But then McCarthy wouldn't have bent over and taken it. We are back where we were 25 years ago, a mid table 2nd tier team. well done Venkys and Kean. You must be very proud. I fear our days in the sun are well and truly over.[/p][/quote]Glad you agree that Appleton is even worse than Kean and with Shaw at the top nothing is likely to change unless Mrs Desai could swallow her pride and offer John Williams and Indian fortune to come back and sort this mess out.[/p][/quote]What? I would never suggest that are you mad. I hate that vile repulsive disgusting excuse for a human being Kean more than anything. I have never veered from my view that we should have recruited an experienced quality manager. It is the most important job at the club and yet the clowns / corrupt snakes in charge of our beloved club keep making the same mistake.[/p][/quote]They're not making the same mistake. It's quite deliberate that they put inexperienced managers / coaches in place so that they can manipulate them. Can you see a proper experienced football manager putting up with Venkys? No......and they know it. Venkys run this club not the manager and that's why anyone will do, including Kean.........and that's why they wouldn't sack him.[/p][/quote]One thing the venkys arnt is stupid,they,ve amassed quite an empire and the fortune that goes with it with their business acumen. Everything that is happening at Ewood is controlled by them,their arrogence will allow nothing less,so you then have to ask why they sacked Berg before he could put in a request for the players he would need? Why did they allow the transfer window to shut without the investment that MA deemed the squad needed? (only a fool would believe it was a mistake with the paperwork) Why,with their business nous, did they not think that it was worth investing 10mill in the squad to get them back to the riches of the Premier League? Why was there so much talk from the Ewood clown earlier about only giving a manager a six months contract? And finally why have they brought us down to such a level in two years that we need to rely on four possibly five loan players just to just to keep the squad afloat? I have a very bad feeling that we will find out next season when the last decent parachute payment goes into venkys London account . But, I pray i'm wrong ,for my Clubs sake , I really do ... R.T.I.D....Since 1969[/p][/quote]I said the same about the Berg sacking, that they got rid as he wanted new players. They then bring a manager in half way through the transfer window and give him nothing to spend. A commenter on here a day or two ago summed it up perfectly, quote "Venkeys have shown their intentions after successfully negotiating their way through the January transfer window without spending a penny "[/p][/quote]That quote just about puts it in a nutshell really, and I must admit that I fail to understand why some people are still under the mistaken belief that the venkys will do the right thing for the Club eventually. If the money would have been made available for either Berg or Appleton,we would have had a very good chance of getting at least in the playoffs and a decent chance of promotion? So the question we all have to ask is; Why have the venkys turned their back on a chance to get us back in the Premiership and the riches that go with it? I don't think you need a degree in rocket science to work out that they have no interest in the Club, The asset players have long been sold off and there is very few assets left at the Club, they have had interference from the likes of Jack Straw contacting the Indian Goverment , Interference that they will not welcome at all. Does anyone believe that they think of us supporters with anything other than contempt, Especially after the justified abuse (and snowball) they received at Ewood recently? What would we do with the Club under those circumstances and with that hatred toward US ? . We may get our Club back sooner than we think,but in what condition? .. R.T.I.D.[/p][/quote]interference from jack straw? jack has tried to meet with the venkys numerous times to try and act as a conduit between the family and the town - writing directly to desai and the family --- constantly ignored. finally a response came through asking "is this the real jack straw?" i have seen the e.mail trail. funny how they listen and take the advice of an arsenal stadium announcer and yet ignore the town's mp, ex home secretary and foreign sec. you can like or hate straw - but he has always sought to do the right thing by rovers hasslem hasslem
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10:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13

OnePostThenTheOther says...

peely wrote:
benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
15/02/75
[quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ![/p][/quote]15/02/75 OnePostThenTheOther
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10:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
peely wrote:
benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
15/02/75
think you will find garner was nowhere near ewood park in 1975.

he did however play in kenny and ray harford's first game on 12/10/1991 against plymouth when we also won 5-2
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ![/p][/quote]15/02/75[/p][/quote]think you will find garner was nowhere near ewood park in 1975. he did however play in kenny and ray harford's first game on 12/10/1991 against plymouth when we also won 5-2 hasslem hasslem
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10:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13

walshy2866 says...

peely wrote:
benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this?
[quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ![/p][/quote]Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this? walshy2866
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10:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

OnePostThenTheOther says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
peely wrote:
benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
15/02/75
think you will find garner was nowhere near ewood park in 1975.

he did however play in kenny and ray harford's first game on 12/10/1991 against plymouth when we also won 5-2
Aye but that Tugay he were a good 'un and let's face it we've been sh since he packed up.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ![/p][/quote]15/02/75[/p][/quote]think you will find garner was nowhere near ewood park in 1975. he did however play in kenny and ray harford's first game on 12/10/1991 against plymouth when we also won 5-2[/p][/quote]Aye but that Tugay he were a good 'un and let's face it we've been sh since he packed up. OnePostThenTheOther
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11:12pm Wed 27 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

walshy2866 wrote:
peely wrote:
benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this?
VAGUELY? the best match of all time - ok you were 9, so you are excused.

saturday game, rovers v plymouth towards the end of the season - whoever won was pretty much guaranteed to go up. plymouth brought 000s all dressed in green - a poor old lady got spray painted green by plymouth hoolies in the shopping centre.

2-0 down at half time (having missed a pen) - no, no, no!!!!!

second half blitz - - - - you fell in love with football 5-2 MAGNIFICENT!!!!!

strangely, my abiding memory of that SATURDAY AFTERNOON was nowt to do with the football - - but a plymouth fan that ran onto the pitch but couldn't get back into the darwen end cos coppers blocked his return...the riverside collectively beckoned him to join them in the riverside....he opted to join the riverside -- SILLY BOY!!!! mind you the cops would probably have given him a kicking too!

best game of my life.- i was 13.
[quote][p][bold]walshy2866[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ![/p][/quote]Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this?[/p][/quote]VAGUELY? the best match of all time - ok you were 9, so you are excused. saturday game, rovers v plymouth towards the end of the season - whoever won was pretty much guaranteed to go up. plymouth brought 000s all dressed in green - a poor old lady got spray painted green by plymouth hoolies in the shopping centre. 2-0 down at half time (having missed a pen) - no, no, no!!!!! second half blitz - - - - you fell in love with football 5-2 MAGNIFICENT!!!!! strangely, my abiding memory of that SATURDAY AFTERNOON was nowt to do with the football - - but a plymouth fan that ran onto the pitch but couldn't get back into the darwen end cos coppers blocked his return...the riverside collectively beckoned him to join them in the riverside....he opted to join the riverside -- SILLY BOY!!!! mind you the cops would probably have given him a kicking too! best game of my life.- i was 13. hasslem hasslem
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11:14pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stefjam says...

I'm getting deja vu !!! berg came in got a great win to poor team, things looked up etc etc we are **** accept it, I saw the good results from MA but the performances... no... he just got the luck that Berg didnt... i notice the 5000 didnt come back ! doomed ! ;-(
I'm getting deja vu !!! berg came in got a great win to poor team, things looked up etc etc we are **** accept it, I saw the good results from MA but the performances... no... he just got the luck that Berg didnt... i notice the 5000 didnt come back ! doomed ! ;-( stefjam
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6:39am Thu 28 Feb 13

Roverthere says...

dansker wrote:
we have the players--but the wrong manager!!!
I think you are wrong my friend, a huge clear out of more deadwood is needed at the end of this season. The current players have not made much impact!
[quote][p][bold]dansker[/bold] wrote: we have the players--but the wrong manager!!![/p][/quote]I think you are wrong my friend, a huge clear out of more deadwood is needed at the end of this season. The current players have not made much impact! Roverthere
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8:02am Thu 28 Feb 13

French Rover says...

walshy2866 wrote:
peely wrote:
benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this?
it was a saturday afternoon match between the two top teams in division 3 boys...2-0 down and Beamo pulled one back then Hickman and the amazing Don martin scored two goals each to make it 5-2 and one of our greatest ever wins. Plymouth had taken over the town before the game even spraying the Adelphi Pub carpet and walls with PAFC plus painting half the town green. They left pretty sharpish after the game though - and with more than one or two coaches having some newly donated windwow ventilation for the long drive back to the west country thx to the hundreds of Rovers fans who lined the route out of town,
[quote][p][bold]walshy2866[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ![/p][/quote]Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this?[/p][/quote]it was a saturday afternoon match between the two top teams in division 3 boys...2-0 down and Beamo pulled one back then Hickman and the amazing Don martin scored two goals each to make it 5-2 and one of our greatest ever wins. Plymouth had taken over the town before the game even spraying the Adelphi Pub carpet and walls with PAFC plus painting half the town green. They left pretty sharpish after the game though - and with more than one or two coaches having some newly donated windwow ventilation for the long drive back to the west country thx to the hundreds of Rovers fans who lined the route out of town, French Rover
  • Score: 1

8:12am Thu 28 Feb 13

kiwipom73 says...

I really believe that since the Venky,s and Kean came into the picture there has been an endless list of players and "staff" that have jumped on the bandwagon to "make hay while the sun shine" with owners that are totally out of their depth.

For Appleton (if he is indeed the right man to take the club forward) has a mountain to climb changing and ridding the club of 70 to 80% of the current squad and replacing with players who will play for the club and team with 100 % commitement...being prepared to prove themselves worthy week in week out that they want success for the club and worthy of wearing the shirt....AND NOT BEING IN IT FOR THE EASY MONEY, BLOODY DAYLIGHT ROBBERY BY SO MANY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS...
I really believe that since the Venky,s and Kean came into the picture there has been an endless list of players and "staff" that have jumped on the bandwagon to "make hay while the sun shine" with owners that are totally out of their depth. For Appleton (if he is indeed the right man to take the club forward) has a mountain to climb changing and ridding the club of 70 to 80% of the current squad and replacing with players who will play for the club and team with 100 % commitement...being prepared to prove themselves worthy week in week out that they want success for the club and worthy of wearing the shirt....AND NOT BEING IN IT FOR THE EASY MONEY, BLOODY DAYLIGHT ROBBERY BY SO MANY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS... kiwipom73
  • Score: 0

11:55am Thu 28 Feb 13

juanbbien says...

French Rover wrote:
walshy2866 wrote:
peely wrote:
benal13 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?
PLYMOUTH
I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days !
Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this?
it was a saturday afternoon match between the two top teams in division 3 boys...2-0 down and Beamo pulled one back then Hickman and the amazing Don martin scored two goals each to make it 5-2 and one of our greatest ever wins. Plymouth had taken over the town before the game even spraying the Adelphi Pub carpet and walls with PAFC plus painting half the town green. They left pretty sharpish after the game though - and with more than one or two coaches having some newly donated windwow ventilation for the long drive back to the west country thx to the hundreds of Rovers fans who lined the route out of town,
I wish we had the spirit and never say die attitude of that great team even though we were in the third division,players like Graham Hawkins one of the best centre halves the Rovers have had,a bargain buy from Preston,the shear determination of Mike Hickman bought for a song and Beamo,Don Martin,Tony Parkes,Graham Oates,in fact the whole team were just great,and the supporters loved the manager Gordon lee and you actually felt part of it all one of my best seasons at Ewood,never forgotten
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]walshy2866[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Which game was that when we were 2-0 down and came back led by Garns and won 5-2 ?[/p][/quote]PLYMOUTH[/p][/quote]I was there 1974 Saturday afternoon game ! Happy happy days ![/p][/quote]Doubt it boys, Garner didn't sign till 77 or 78. Beamish was leading the line in the 74/75 3rd div promotion season. I vaguely remember a 5-2 win at home to Plymouth at the end of that season , but that was a night match I think. I was only 9 but remember standing on the Riverside , it seemed packed and at the end of the game shimmying over that huge metal water pipe that crossed the river and making our way up the grass banking. Like I say I was only 9 so I might be getting it mixed up, pretty sure that win got us promoted but didn't clinch us the title. Can someone confirm this?[/p][/quote]it was a saturday afternoon match between the two top teams in division 3 boys...2-0 down and Beamo pulled one back then Hickman and the amazing Don martin scored two goals each to make it 5-2 and one of our greatest ever wins. Plymouth had taken over the town before the game even spraying the Adelphi Pub carpet and walls with PAFC plus painting half the town green. They left pretty sharpish after the game though - and with more than one or two coaches having some newly donated windwow ventilation for the long drive back to the west country thx to the hundreds of Rovers fans who lined the route out of town,[/p][/quote]I wish we had the spirit and never say die attitude of that great team even though we were in the third division,players like Graham Hawkins one of the best centre halves the Rovers have had,a bargain buy from Preston,the shear determination of Mike Hickman bought for a song and Beamo,Don Martin,Tony Parkes,Graham Oates,in fact the whole team were just great,and the supporters loved the manager Gordon lee and you actually felt part of it all one of my best seasons at Ewood,never forgotten juanbbien
  • Score: 0

12:08pm Thu 28 Feb 13

fanny.tickler. says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
Exactly. under Steve Kean you lot were nailed on for a strong season and a top 6 finish. Appleton is proving himself to be a very very poor manager.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.[/p][/quote]Exactly. under Steve Kean you lot were nailed on for a strong season and a top 6 finish. Appleton is proving himself to be a very very poor manager. fanny.tickler.
  • Score: -3

12:30pm Thu 28 Feb 13

handyamBRFC says...

hello all, BRFC ......
many issues at Ewood...yes
But,.......
I think we the fans need to get behind the club.
BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans,
There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC.

Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked.

The team is playing poor ...Yes
The manager is inexperienced..Yes
However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy.

The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!!
a nightmare......!!!
for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!!

But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..????

All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together.
Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward.
because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker.

Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!!

Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters.

Arte et Labore forever...
hello all, BRFC ...... many issues at Ewood...yes But,....... I think we the fans need to get behind the club. BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans, There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC. Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked. The team is playing poor ...Yes The manager is inexperienced..Yes However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy. The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!! a nightmare......!!! for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!! But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..???? All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together. Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward. because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker. Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!! Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters. Arte et Labore forever... handyamBRFC
  • Score: 0

12:33pm Thu 28 Feb 13

benal13 says...

kiwipom73 wrote:
I really believe that since the Venky,s and Kean came into the picture there has been an endless list of players and "staff" that have jumped on the bandwagon to "make hay while the sun shine" with owners that are totally out of their depth.

For Appleton (if he is indeed the right man to take the club forward) has a mountain to climb changing and ridding the club of 70 to 80% of the current squad and replacing with players who will play for the club and team with 100 % commitement...being prepared to prove themselves worthy week in week out that they want success for the club and worthy of wearing the shirt....AND NOT BEING IN IT FOR THE EASY MONEY, BLOODY DAYLIGHT ROBBERY BY SO MANY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS...
dont forget appleton jumped ship for the money so its a bit like the blind leading the blind is it not ?!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]kiwipom73[/bold] wrote: I really believe that since the Venky,s and Kean came into the picture there has been an endless list of players and "staff" that have jumped on the bandwagon to "make hay while the sun shine" with owners that are totally out of their depth. For Appleton (if he is indeed the right man to take the club forward) has a mountain to climb changing and ridding the club of 70 to 80% of the current squad and replacing with players who will play for the club and team with 100 % commitement...being prepared to prove themselves worthy week in week out that they want success for the club and worthy of wearing the shirt....AND NOT BEING IN IT FOR THE EASY MONEY, BLOODY DAYLIGHT ROBBERY BY SO MANY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS...[/p][/quote]dont forget appleton jumped ship for the money so its a bit like the blind leading the blind is it not ?!!!!!!!!!! benal13
  • Score: -1

12:38pm Thu 28 Feb 13

benal13 says...

handyamBRFC wrote:
hello all, BRFC ......
many issues at Ewood...yes
But,.......
I think we the fans need to get behind the club.
BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans,
There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC.

Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked.

The team is playing poor ...Yes
The manager is inexperienced..Yes
However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy.

The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!!
a nightmare......!!!
for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!!

But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..????

All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together.
Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward.
because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker.

Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!!

Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters.

Arte et Labore forever...
heard it all befor BORING you cant make a silk purse out of CHICKEN SKIN end of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: hello all, BRFC ...... many issues at Ewood...yes But,....... I think we the fans need to get behind the club. BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans, There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC. Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked. The team is playing poor ...Yes The manager is inexperienced..Yes However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy. The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!! a nightmare......!!! for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!! But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..???? All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together. Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward. because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker. Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!! Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters. Arte et Labore forever...[/p][/quote]heard it all befor BORING you cant make a silk purse out of CHICKEN SKIN end of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! benal13
  • Score: -1

12:50pm Thu 28 Feb 13

BlueSkies says...

handyamBRFC wrote:
hello all, BRFC ......
many issues at Ewood...yes
But,.......
I think we the fans need to get behind the club.
BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans,
There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC.

Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked.

The team is playing poor ...Yes
The manager is inexperienced..Yes
However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy.

The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!!
a nightmare......!!!
for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!!

But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..????

All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together.
Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward.
because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker.

Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!!

Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters.

Arte et Labore forever...
Bit early in the day to be on the juice innnit?
[quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: hello all, BRFC ...... many issues at Ewood...yes But,....... I think we the fans need to get behind the club. BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans, There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC. Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked. The team is playing poor ...Yes The manager is inexperienced..Yes However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy. The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!! a nightmare......!!! for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!! But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..???? All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together. Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward. because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker. Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!! Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters. Arte et Labore forever...[/p][/quote]Bit early in the day to be on the juice innnit? BlueSkies
  • Score: 0

1:39pm Thu 28 Feb 13

StLedge says...

BlueSkies wrote:
handyamBRFC wrote: hello all, BRFC ...... many issues at Ewood...yes But,....... I think we the fans need to get behind the club. BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans, There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC. Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked. The team is playing poor ...Yes The manager is inexperienced..Yes However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy. The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!! a nightmare......!!! for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!! But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..???? All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together. Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward. because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker. Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!! Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters. Arte et Labore forever...
Bit early in the day to be on the juice innnit?
Is it though....?
[quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: hello all, BRFC ...... many issues at Ewood...yes But,....... I think we the fans need to get behind the club. BRFC is lacking passionate support for the club from the fans, There's too many people attacking each other and trying to break up anything and everything with BRFC. Many aren't even allowed to have their say on forums without being attacked. The team is playing poor ...Yes The manager is inexperienced..Yes However, he seems to be doing his best and is a straight forward guy. The owners are having an initiation into Footy club ownership that will forever last in their lives & change their lives for ever......!!! a nightmare......!!! for the owners and for everyone involved with the club.....!! But is the answer just to carry on throwing money at the club..???? All I would ask the fans is its not too late, now is the time to start sticking together. Lets show society that we are BRFC, a club strong & together wanting to go forward. because at the moment everyone out there knows that BRFC are weak, the club are hurting within and by attacking each other we are getting weaker. Simply put, some fans are doing a dis service to BRFC by playing into the hands of our enemies....!! Lets get together, lets promote BRFC and our strong fan base as being strong and together and I'm sure we can ride these waves no matter how big in these current choppy waters. Arte et Labore forever...[/p][/quote]Bit early in the day to be on the juice innnit?[/p][/quote]Is it though....? StLedge
  • Score: 0

3:24pm Thu 28 Feb 13

noddymcleod says...

Thanks for the reminisences of fight backs. Plymouth 5-2 was in the old third div,we came up that year and Plymouth were a good side. It was before Garner's days.
No one else remember the 4-2 against Derby ? If memory serves me correctly, we were 2-0 down in the second leg and Kev Moran got a goal which put us through on aggregate.
By the way, if you look back in the archives, Straw announced himself to be a Man City fan when he first surfaced in the late 1970, he only became a Rovers fan when New Labour Laddism made watching footie a must.
Thanks for the reminisences of fight backs. Plymouth 5-2 was in the old third div,we came up that year and Plymouth were a good side. It was before Garner's days. No one else remember the 4-2 against Derby ? If memory serves me correctly, we were 2-0 down in the second leg and Kev Moran got a goal which put us through on aggregate. By the way, if you look back in the archives, Straw announced himself to be a Man City fan when he first surfaced in the late 1970, he only became a Rovers fan when New Labour Laddism made watching footie a must. noddymcleod
  • Score: 0

3:36pm Thu 28 Feb 13

RoversMCMLXXV says...

fanny.tickler. wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.
Exactly. under Steve Kean you lot were nailed on for a strong season and a top 6 finish. Appleton is proving himself to be a very very poor manager.
Spot on fanny, not to mention the envy of our far superior neighbours having Dyche as manager which just rubs salt in the wound. I sincerely hope that a bigger club doesn't poach him away as with Coyle or Howe, because as much as I dislike Bonleh a smaller club being bullied by bigger clubs is just wrong.
[quote][p][bold]fanny.tickler.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Just admit it, we had better results under Steve Kean because we had a better team under Steve Kean. That doesn't make Steve Kean a good manager but it certainly suggests that Michael Appleton is a worse one.[/p][/quote]Exactly. under Steve Kean you lot were nailed on for a strong season and a top 6 finish. Appleton is proving himself to be a very very poor manager.[/p][/quote]Spot on fanny, not to mention the envy of our far superior neighbours having Dyche as manager which just rubs salt in the wound. I sincerely hope that a bigger club doesn't poach him away as with Coyle or Howe, because as much as I dislike Bonleh a smaller club being bullied by bigger clubs is just wrong. RoversMCMLXXV
  • Score: 0

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