Blackburn Rovers new boy eyes Premier bid

First published in Sport Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Blackburn Rovers reporter

LEE Williamson is determined to make the most of his second chance as he bids to earn a Premier League return six years after his first taste of the top flight.

The 31-year-old midfielder could make his Rovers’ bow in this evening’s Championship clash at Brighton as he looks to kick-start an injury-plagued career.

Williamson, who signed as a free agent last week, made five appearances for Watford in the Premier League in 2007 after signing from Rotherham, before being relegated.

He has since played for Sheffield United, where he suffered problems with his back, and most recently Portsmouth and is now eyeing a second Premier League push.

Boss Michael Appleton is continuing his efforts to add to his squad in the loan market ahead of this evening’s game, with Reading defender Kaspars Gorkss a target.

Wolves are understood to be serious competitors for his signature as Appleton’s efforts in the market continue to be frustrated.

Meanwhile, Williamson said: “It is not nice for any player to drop down the leagues, whether that be through injuries or relegations.

“The main thing is to get back up as fast as you can.

“The longer you stay out of the top leagues the harder it is going to get.

“The first time I got to the Premier League was with Watford and then after that I signed for Sheffield United and had two years hampered with injuries. Then the third season I played and we got relegated.”

That meant Williamson suddenly found himself in League One but he is excited to now be back at Championship level.

He said: “It is nice to be back and I can’t wait to get playing. It is a really good squad, you put it up against any other squad in the Championship and you fancy them.

“It is probably not a massive squad but the players are very good.

“I am definitely looking forward to it. This is a great club to play for, a very big club and our ambition now is to get back in the Premier League and get the last 12 months out of the way and get back where the club belong.”

Having already added Williamson and DJ Campbell to his squad last week, Appleton is eyeing three or four more new faces in the next few days.

With Gorkss a defensive target and former Rover David Bentley also understood to be on the wish-list, Appleton is stressing the importance of adding ‘quality’ competition.

The Rovers boss said: “There is a process that has to be put in place, which involves identifying the player, then whether we are able to get the deal done in terms of what players’ salaries are, whether the club will let them out, what structure is in the deal, whether there is a call back.

“You have to get permission to make sure you can do the deal. Discussions with Derek Shaw and Paul Agnew and the owners have to take place at some point. If we don’t get the green light we can’t do the deal.

“The squad we have is potentially good enough to get back in the Premier League, with a few additions. I would like to think it is a football club now where we want to kick on.

“With football, things can happen very, very quickly. You can sign players on loan up until three hours before kick off. I think from our point of view it is a must, we need cover defensively and in the wide areas as well, where we could do with a bit more pace.”

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10:07am Tue 12 Feb 13

leitchy says...

Well said but it clearly takes longer for our club to do the deals as we have to via India for the go ahead !

At least the targets being mentioned are good ones !

COYB !
Well said but it clearly takes longer for our club to do the deals as we have to via India for the go ahead ! At least the targets being mentioned are good ones ! COYB ! leitchy
  • Score: 4

10:07am Tue 12 Feb 13

baz58 says...

At last a manager who has identified our weakest areas, lets hope he can strengthen these positions. COYB.
At last a manager who has identified our weakest areas, lets hope he can strengthen these positions. COYB. baz58
  • Score: 2

10:09am Tue 12 Feb 13

madrover says...

well said ma at the moment our play is very disjointed because of our lack of width . I hope you get the nod to bring in the right players to improve the squad.Keep up the good work .coyb
well said ma at the moment our play is very disjointed because of our lack of width . I hope you get the nod to bring in the right players to improve the squad.Keep up the good work .coyb madrover
  • Score: 4

10:16am Tue 12 Feb 13

Siminitt says...

Extremely happy with how MA is applying himself and long may it continue. To the people who are still critical of the teams performances you need to understand that you cant play pretty football all the time, winning games the hard way through sheer effort is sometimes what's needed and 3 points whilst playing non attractive football is better that 0 points and playing total football. Special mention to Rhodes....... Simply Amazing!
Extremely happy with how MA is applying himself and long may it continue. To the people who are still critical of the teams performances you need to understand that you cant play pretty football all the time, winning games the hard way through sheer effort is sometimes what's needed and 3 points whilst playing non attractive football is better that 0 points and playing total football. Special mention to Rhodes....... Simply Amazing! Siminitt
  • Score: 7

10:24am Tue 12 Feb 13

bigste says...

Good vibes coming from Appleton lets hope it is the sames with the owners.
Good vibes coming from Appleton lets hope it is the sames with the owners. bigste
  • Score: 3

10:27am Tue 12 Feb 13

A Darener says...

Not bothered about performances from now to the end of the season. All that matters are the results. Let's continue the good run the team are on. A win tonight, a record breaking goal for Jason Rhodes and another clean sheet, that will do nicely. Setting us up for a meeting with Arsenal on Saturday where the team can relax, enjoy the game and hopefully get another positive result.

GET INTO EM!
Not bothered about performances from now to the end of the season. All that matters are the results. Let's continue the good run the team are on. A win tonight, a record breaking goal for Jason Rhodes and another clean sheet, that will do nicely. Setting us up for a meeting with Arsenal on Saturday where the team can relax, enjoy the game and hopefully get another positive result. GET INTO EM! A Darener
  • Score: 3

10:36am Tue 12 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

With the history and track record of Lee Williamson (that is his name isn't it?), how can we fail?
With the history and track record of Lee Williamson (that is his name isn't it?), how can we fail? Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -15

10:44am Tue 12 Feb 13

ChrisDeBerg says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
With the history and track record of Lee Williamson (that is his name isn't it?), how can we fail?
I suspect a hint of sarcasm/pessimism?

RTID
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: With the history and track record of Lee Williamson (that is his name isn't it?), how can we fail?[/p][/quote]I suspect a hint of sarcasm/pessimism? RTID ChrisDeBerg
  • Score: -1

10:47am Tue 12 Feb 13

Dukes says...

good luck to Lee he needs it and on signing more players, we shall wait and see.
good luck to Lee he needs it and on signing more players, we shall wait and see. Dukes
  • Score: 0

10:51am Tue 12 Feb 13

jinkyjase says...

A Darener Jason Rhodes?
A Darener Jason Rhodes? jinkyjase
  • Score: 0

10:54am Tue 12 Feb 13

jinkyjase says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
With the history and track record of Lee Williamson (that is his name isn't it?), how can we fail?
I suspect a hint of sarcasm/pessimism?

RTID
I'm sure I heard on Saturday that he scored 14 goals for Sheff Utd from midfield last season. That's good form.

Saying that, us rovers fans always give these type of players a chance, ask Keith Andrews. :P
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: With the history and track record of Lee Williamson (that is his name isn't it?), how can we fail?[/p][/quote]I suspect a hint of sarcasm/pessimism? RTID[/p][/quote]I'm sure I heard on Saturday that he scored 14 goals for Sheff Utd from midfield last season. That's good form. Saying that, us rovers fans always give these type of players a chance, ask Keith Andrews. :P jinkyjase
  • Score: 1

11:00am Tue 12 Feb 13

phillmac says...

a hard tackling thug in midfield ! JUst what our squad lacks ! bring on the axe
a hard tackling thug in midfield ! JUst what our squad lacks ! bring on the axe phillmac
  • Score: 0

11:14am Tue 12 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

let's put the last 12 months behind us - its been longer than 12 months!

no problem with a positive attitude - but please rather than talk about the premiership - can we not just do the boring old "take each game as it comes" stuff.

yes, from the moment he arrived appleton appears to have instilled a new belief and organisation within the club. everybody hopes that this continues and it is not a false-dawn.

but please - no talk of premiership - sure have it as a goal - - but let's be honest we all guffawed when shabby did the "premiership, or bust!" nonsense earlier in the season. personally in the remote chance that we went up - we are in no state yet to handle the attrition of the prem a would bet a right hiding. i know it goes against everything that one should think about your team but let's end the season strongly - get rid of all the garbage (on and off the field) and try and stablise the club for a proper do next season.

already we look a better team and a better club....let's try and build on those foundations.

Rovers to get above Dingles? - - we've got an App for that!
let's put the last 12 months behind us - its been longer than 12 months! no problem with a positive attitude - but please rather than talk about the premiership - can we not just do the boring old "take each game as it comes" stuff. yes, from the moment he arrived appleton appears to have instilled a new belief and organisation within the club. everybody hopes that this continues and it is not a false-dawn. but please - no talk of premiership - sure have it as a goal - - but let's be honest we all guffawed when shabby did the "premiership, or bust!" nonsense earlier in the season. personally in the remote chance that we went up - we are in no state yet to handle the attrition of the prem a would bet a right hiding. i know it goes against everything that one should think about your team but let's end the season strongly - get rid of all the garbage (on and off the field) and try and stablise the club for a proper do next season. already we look a better team and a better club....let's try and build on those foundations. Rovers to get above Dingles? - - we've got an App for that! hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 4

11:17am Tue 12 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

and as for the arsenal game - let's give it a real go at them. what's the worst that can happen - we have had some right hammerings down there, so another one won't do any harm - and let's face it everybody expects us to get a doing.

take no prisoners -- lets have wenger scowling through the game rather than smiling.....you never know they just might be there for the taking.
and as for the arsenal game - let's give it a real go at them. what's the worst that can happen - we have had some right hammerings down there, so another one won't do any harm - and let's face it everybody expects us to get a doing. take no prisoners -- lets have wenger scowling through the game rather than smiling.....you never know they just might be there for the taking. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 2

11:20am Tue 12 Feb 13

French Rover says...

Nice to read an article on Rovers signing players without there being any mention of our Shebby!
Nice to read an article on Rovers signing players without there being any mention of our Shebby! French Rover
  • Score: 3

11:20am Tue 12 Feb 13

inflightmagazine says...

I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs.

Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic.

Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive.

I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well.
I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs. Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic. Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive. I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well. inflightmagazine
  • Score: 2

11:27am Tue 12 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion
Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -14

11:43am Tue 12 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion
Imagine what would've happened if any of our previous managers had signe pdlayers they'd worked with before. It always spells disaster...

Oh, hang on. Souness brought in Tugay, Hughes brought in Savage and Bellamy, Allardyce brought in Diouf. Just a few examples of getting it right when you already know a player's strengths.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion[/p][/quote]Imagine what would've happened if any of our previous managers had signe pdlayers they'd worked with before. It always spells disaster... Oh, hang on. Souness brought in Tugay, Hughes brought in Savage and Bellamy, Allardyce brought in Diouf. Just a few examples of getting it right when you already know a player's strengths. srvp28
  • Score: 9

11:47am Tue 12 Feb 13

Tamworth rover says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion
Yet hes been involved in two promotions from the Championship over the last two years with QPR and Reading. Shows how much you know really
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion[/p][/quote]Yet hes been involved in two promotions from the Championship over the last two years with QPR and Reading. Shows how much you know really Tamworth rover
  • Score: 6

12:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Will P says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion
We aren't even in the Premiership anymore... He's had two promotions with Reading and QPR, it's a different sort of player that does well in the championship to the premiership.

You complain about everything without knowing much about the players.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion[/p][/quote]We aren't even in the Premiership anymore... He's had two promotions with Reading and QPR, it's a different sort of player that does well in the championship to the premiership. You complain about everything without knowing much about the players. Will P
  • Score: 4

12:13pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

leitchy wrote:
Well said but it clearly takes longer for our club to do the deals as we have to via India for the go ahead !

At least the targets being mentioned are good ones !

COYB !
Let's hope someone in India can be bothered to get out of bed to answer the phone.
[quote][p][bold]leitchy[/bold] wrote: Well said but it clearly takes longer for our club to do the deals as we have to via India for the go ahead ! At least the targets being mentioned are good ones ! COYB ![/p][/quote]Let's hope someone in India can be bothered to get out of bed to answer the phone. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

12:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale
I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 2

12:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

baz58 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
let's put the last 12 months behind us - its been longer than 12 months!

no problem with a positive attitude - but please rather than talk about the premiership - can we not just do the boring old "take each game as it comes" stuff.

yes, from the moment he arrived appleton appears to have instilled a new belief and organisation within the club. everybody hopes that this continues and it is not a false-dawn.

but please - no talk of premiership - sure have it as a goal - - but let's be honest we all guffawed when shabby did the "premiership, or bust!" nonsense earlier in the season. personally in the remote chance that we went up - we are in no state yet to handle the attrition of the prem a would bet a right hiding. i know it goes against everything that one should think about your team but let's end the season strongly - get rid of all the garbage (on and off the field) and try and stablise the club for a proper do next season.

already we look a better team and a better club....let's try and build on those foundations.

Rovers to get above Dingles? - - we've got an App for that!
Good post!!!!
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: let's put the last 12 months behind us - its been longer than 12 months! no problem with a positive attitude - but please rather than talk about the premiership - can we not just do the boring old "take each game as it comes" stuff. yes, from the moment he arrived appleton appears to have instilled a new belief and organisation within the club. everybody hopes that this continues and it is not a false-dawn. but please - no talk of premiership - sure have it as a goal - - but let's be honest we all guffawed when shabby did the "premiership, or bust!" nonsense earlier in the season. personally in the remote chance that we went up - we are in no state yet to handle the attrition of the prem a would bet a right hiding. i know it goes against everything that one should think about your team but let's end the season strongly - get rid of all the garbage (on and off the field) and try and stablise the club for a proper do next season. already we look a better team and a better club....let's try and build on those foundations. Rovers to get above Dingles? - - we've got an App for that![/p][/quote]Good post!!!! baz58
  • Score: 0

12:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RoversSwiss says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs.

Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic.

Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive.

I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well.
It will always be a problem for Allardyce, he's under pressure again at West Ham, he gets results and will keep a team in the Premiership, but it's dire stuff and is not the dream football of the marketing men, directors and owners of football clubs.

I agree with Appelton, first things first, get the defence in order and then think about playing more constructive football, with Allardyce there is no attempt to change his one way formula.

Tough tough game tonight, Appelton got the tactics right for the home game, hopefully it will work again. A big ask, but perhaps with a better result, another clean sheet at Brighton would be great.
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs. Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic. Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive. I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well.[/p][/quote]It will always be a problem for Allardyce, he's under pressure again at West Ham, he gets results and will keep a team in the Premiership, but it's dire stuff and is not the dream football of the marketing men, directors and owners of football clubs. I agree with Appelton, first things first, get the defence in order and then think about playing more constructive football, with Allardyce there is no attempt to change his one way formula. Tough tough game tonight, Appelton got the tactics right for the home game, hopefully it will work again. A big ask, but perhaps with a better result, another clean sheet at Brighton would be great. RoversSwiss
  • Score: 1

12:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

oreilly21 says...

Kaspars Gorkks has signed for Wolves, strange one IMO

http://www.wolves.vi
talfootball.co.uk/ar
ticle.asp?a=308933
Kaspars Gorkks has signed for Wolves, strange one IMO http://www.wolves.vi talfootball.co.uk/ar ticle.asp?a=308933 oreilly21
  • Score: 0

12:41pm Tue 12 Feb 13

jag kalsi says...

I would take results over attractive football and not getting points any day, you don't win the league by playing attractive football, you win by gaining the most points anyway possible!
I would take results over attractive football and not getting points any day, you don't win the league by playing attractive football, you win by gaining the most points anyway possible! jag kalsi
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Wild Rover says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale
Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen
Start your own little Out Out Out Gang
oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them..
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale[/p][/quote]Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen Start your own little Out Out Out Gang oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them.. Wild Rover
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Wild Rover says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale
Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen
Start your own little Out Out Out Gang
oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them..
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale[/p][/quote]Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen Start your own little Out Out Out Gang oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them.. Wild Rover
  • Score: 0

12:57pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Nellie 77 says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale
Nice one
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale[/p][/quote]Nice one Nellie 77
  • Score: 0

1:39pm Tue 12 Feb 13

fitz808 says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs.

Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic.

Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive.

I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well.
It will always be a problem for Allardyce, he's under pressure again at West Ham, he gets results and will keep a team in the Premiership, but it's dire stuff and is not the dream football of the marketing men, directors and owners of football clubs.

I agree with Appelton, first things first, get the defence in order and then think about playing more constructive football, with Allardyce there is no attempt to change his one way formula.

Tough tough game tonight, Appelton got the tactics right for the home game, hopefully it will work again. A big ask, but perhaps with a better result, another clean sheet at Brighton would be great.
i was very much one from the 'not upset that allardyce has gone' camp. and despite the madness that has ensued, i stick by that. i think it is important to separate the two things too. it was entirely possible for venkys to get rid of allardyce yet not go on to make a stream of poor decisions for the club.

my dislike of allardyce stems from the 1 trick pony idea, as you say, inflight. and at points it was just unbearable to watch. but i think it also goes a little beyond that. there were clearly games where he accepted that we couldn't win and the team played accordingly. i know every team can get hammered away from home by the big 5/6, but too often, we would put in an incredibly timid performance against these big sides, no because we were just outplayed, but because there seemed to be an acceptance from the start of the game. when you're a small club like ours, with no chance of claiming silverwear or even scraping a european place, then it is the giant-killings which remain to keep you interested in the season.

i don't see appleton adopting that attitude. he seems generally a much more upbeat sort who would take a team to a big club with enthusiasm to cause an upset. i hope that continues to be true, as this is what i want from my club - that they try.
i hope that appleton also differs from allardyce in his approach to style. allardyce has no desire to change his approach, regardless of situation. if appleton wins ugly now, but shows a desire to improve and entertain when we have better resources etc, then i am up for that. there has to be improvement towards entertainment. some games will have to be tough, but as long as there is progress, that's fine for a club like us.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs. Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic. Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive. I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well.[/p][/quote]It will always be a problem for Allardyce, he's under pressure again at West Ham, he gets results and will keep a team in the Premiership, but it's dire stuff and is not the dream football of the marketing men, directors and owners of football clubs. I agree with Appelton, first things first, get the defence in order and then think about playing more constructive football, with Allardyce there is no attempt to change his one way formula. Tough tough game tonight, Appelton got the tactics right for the home game, hopefully it will work again. A big ask, but perhaps with a better result, another clean sheet at Brighton would be great.[/p][/quote]i was very much one from the 'not upset that allardyce has gone' camp. and despite the madness that has ensued, i stick by that. i think it is important to separate the two things too. it was entirely possible for venkys to get rid of allardyce yet not go on to make a stream of poor decisions for the club. my dislike of allardyce stems from the 1 trick pony idea, as you say, inflight. and at points it was just unbearable to watch. but i think it also goes a little beyond that. there were clearly games where he accepted that we couldn't win and the team played accordingly. i know every team can get hammered away from home by the big 5/6, but too often, we would put in an incredibly timid performance against these big sides, no because we were just outplayed, but because there seemed to be an acceptance from the start of the game. when you're a small club like ours, with no chance of claiming silverwear or even scraping a european place, then it is the giant-killings which remain to keep you interested in the season. i don't see appleton adopting that attitude. he seems generally a much more upbeat sort who would take a team to a big club with enthusiasm to cause an upset. i hope that continues to be true, as this is what i want from my club - that they try. i hope that appleton also differs from allardyce in his approach to style. allardyce has no desire to change his approach, regardless of situation. if appleton wins ugly now, but shows a desire to improve and entertain when we have better resources etc, then i am up for that. there has to be improvement towards entertainment. some games will have to be tough, but as long as there is progress, that's fine for a club like us. fitz808
  • Score: 1

2:21pm Tue 12 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale
Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen
Start your own little Out Out Out Gang
oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them..
no need to start up any sort of a gang there's still 9000 fans plus out there staying away from Ewood because of the way the Club is being run by Shaw Agnew Singh Venkys Coar and hangers on such as Hendry so I would keep your meaningless comments to yourself.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale[/p][/quote]Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen Start your own little Out Out Out Gang oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them..[/p][/quote]no need to start up any sort of a gang there's still 9000 fans plus out there staying away from Ewood because of the way the Club is being run by Shaw Agnew Singh Venkys Coar and hangers on such as Hendry so I would keep your meaningless comments to yourself. OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave
  • Score: -3

2:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Captain Dreckley says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale
Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen
Start your own little Out Out Out Gang
oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them..
Is that Dangerous Dave AND Dick from Darwen or Dangerous Dave THE Dick from Darwen? Even a dingle would struggle to moan and whinge as much as that will everything they have to put up with. You've got to give it to the whinging brigade, always look on the bright side of life will never be their theme tune.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: I am ANGRY FROM ACCRINGTON, not Rational from Rochdale[/p][/quote]Well then you should team up with Dangerous Dave and Dick from Darwen Start your own little Out Out Out Gang oh sorry you cant cos you are all of them..[/p][/quote]Is that Dangerous Dave AND Dick from Darwen or Dangerous Dave THE Dick from Darwen? Even a dingle would struggle to moan and whinge as much as that will everything they have to put up with. You've got to give it to the whinging brigade, always look on the bright side of life will never be their theme tune. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

French Rover says...

fitz808 wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs.

Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic.

Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive.

I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well.
It will always be a problem for Allardyce, he's under pressure again at West Ham, he gets results and will keep a team in the Premiership, but it's dire stuff and is not the dream football of the marketing men, directors and owners of football clubs.

I agree with Appelton, first things first, get the defence in order and then think about playing more constructive football, with Allardyce there is no attempt to change his one way formula.

Tough tough game tonight, Appelton got the tactics right for the home game, hopefully it will work again. A big ask, but perhaps with a better result, another clean sheet at Brighton would be great.
i was very much one from the 'not upset that allardyce has gone' camp. and despite the madness that has ensued, i stick by that. i think it is important to separate the two things too. it was entirely possible for venkys to get rid of allardyce yet not go on to make a stream of poor decisions for the club.

my dislike of allardyce stems from the 1 trick pony idea, as you say, inflight. and at points it was just unbearable to watch. but i think it also goes a little beyond that. there were clearly games where he accepted that we couldn't win and the team played accordingly. i know every team can get hammered away from home by the big 5/6, but too often, we would put in an incredibly timid performance against these big sides, no because we were just outplayed, but because there seemed to be an acceptance from the start of the game. when you're a small club like ours, with no chance of claiming silverwear or even scraping a european place, then it is the giant-killings which remain to keep you interested in the season.

i don't see appleton adopting that attitude. he seems generally a much more upbeat sort who would take a team to a big club with enthusiasm to cause an upset. i hope that continues to be true, as this is what i want from my club - that they try.
i hope that appleton also differs from allardyce in his approach to style. allardyce has no desire to change his approach, regardless of situation. if appleton wins ugly now, but shows a desire to improve and entertain when we have better resources etc, then i am up for that. there has to be improvement towards entertainment. some games will have to be tough, but as long as there is progress, that's fine for a club like us.
Well said Fitz, but does the MA approach to playing bigger clubs mean that we will beat Arsenal at the weekend? Hope so mate!
[quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: I think this point about playing style versus results is a really good point that deserves a sensible discussion. I was never a big fan of Big Sam but he brought some league success and if you look at his last 3 teams before westham, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn all have suffered relegation in recent times. The problem I always felt under allardyce was we were a one trick pony, hit the box early and pick up the knock downs. Its a real catch 22 in many ways if your in the premiership you can attract the better players that can maybe play the more attractive football , but while you are developing a side to play that way you can struggule to get results, Liverpool is a really good example of this, Rodgers is trying to change the way they play and you can see taht transisition, fortunatley for him there is no spector of relegation, Lambert at Villa does not have that luxury, so where as many Liverpool fans are saying they are in transisition and are prepared to see it evolve, a change in style at Villa is causing chaos and absolute panic. Fans around me last year got frustrated with Blackburn keeper Robinson being used to hoof the ball up from the back all the time, this year when are back line puts 3 passes togethor people start screaming to go forward. The one thing for sure is we do not get extra points for style, but when a team plays well and wins confidence is lifted and the genreal mood around the club becomes positive. I suppose my point is I am looking form the transition from Winning and playing poorly to winning and playing well as opposed just transisitioning from playing poorly to playing well.[/p][/quote]It will always be a problem for Allardyce, he's under pressure again at West Ham, he gets results and will keep a team in the Premiership, but it's dire stuff and is not the dream football of the marketing men, directors and owners of football clubs. I agree with Appelton, first things first, get the defence in order and then think about playing more constructive football, with Allardyce there is no attempt to change his one way formula. Tough tough game tonight, Appelton got the tactics right for the home game, hopefully it will work again. A big ask, but perhaps with a better result, another clean sheet at Brighton would be great.[/p][/quote]i was very much one from the 'not upset that allardyce has gone' camp. and despite the madness that has ensued, i stick by that. i think it is important to separate the two things too. it was entirely possible for venkys to get rid of allardyce yet not go on to make a stream of poor decisions for the club. my dislike of allardyce stems from the 1 trick pony idea, as you say, inflight. and at points it was just unbearable to watch. but i think it also goes a little beyond that. there were clearly games where he accepted that we couldn't win and the team played accordingly. i know every team can get hammered away from home by the big 5/6, but too often, we would put in an incredibly timid performance against these big sides, no because we were just outplayed, but because there seemed to be an acceptance from the start of the game. when you're a small club like ours, with no chance of claiming silverwear or even scraping a european place, then it is the giant-killings which remain to keep you interested in the season. i don't see appleton adopting that attitude. he seems generally a much more upbeat sort who would take a team to a big club with enthusiasm to cause an upset. i hope that continues to be true, as this is what i want from my club - that they try. i hope that appleton also differs from allardyce in his approach to style. allardyce has no desire to change his approach, regardless of situation. if appleton wins ugly now, but shows a desire to improve and entertain when we have better resources etc, then i am up for that. there has to be improvement towards entertainment. some games will have to be tough, but as long as there is progress, that's fine for a club like us.[/p][/quote]Well said Fitz, but does the MA approach to playing bigger clubs mean that we will beat Arsenal at the weekend? Hope so mate! French Rover
  • Score: 0

3:30pm Tue 12 Feb 13

jinkyjase says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion
Shut up
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Mascara Gorkks is not wanted by a team with the third worst goals against record in the Premiership but good enough for us. Another example of Appleton taking the easy option of another old mate rather than the challenge of a quality player that might test his leadership. By the end of the season we will be renamed Portpool Albion[/p][/quote]Shut up jinkyjase
  • Score: 0

4:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

Gorkss signs for Wolves with view to permanent transfer once fee decided - so no wonder not coming to Ewood only freebies/loans allowed in no money for Transfer of decent players!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM.
Gorkss signs for Wolves with view to permanent transfer once fee decided - so no wonder not coming to Ewood only freebies/loans allowed in no money for Transfer of decent players!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM. dangerous dave
  • Score: -3

4:14pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Iiii1111 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
and as for the arsenal game - let's give it a real go at them. what's the worst that can happen - we have had some right hammerings down there, so another one won't do any harm - and let's face it everybody expects us to get a doing.

take no prisoners -- lets have wenger scowling through the game rather than smiling.....you never know they just might be there for the taking.
Oh Appy days.......contempla
ting a 2 h drive to Hove...thought about it...might watch celts then again I only like glenfiddich;-)
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: and as for the arsenal game - let's give it a real go at them. what's the worst that can happen - we have had some right hammerings down there, so another one won't do any harm - and let's face it everybody expects us to get a doing. take no prisoners -- lets have wenger scowling through the game rather than smiling.....you never know they just might be there for the taking.[/p][/quote]Oh Appy days.......contempla ting a 2 h drive to Hove...thought about it...might watch celts then again I only like glenfiddich;-) Iiii1111
  • Score: 0

4:20pm Tue 12 Feb 13

To.guy says...

Siminitt wrote:
Extremely happy with how MA is applying himself and long may it continue. To the people who are still critical of the teams performances you need to understand that you cant play pretty football all the time, winning games the hard way through sheer effort is sometimes what's needed and 3 points whilst playing non attractive football is better that 0 points and playing total football. Special mention to Rhodes....... Simply Amazing!
Doesnt have to be all or nothing. There is an option of a bit of both. I recall SA having a more pragmatic approach and the fans moaned and groaned and Venks got rid.
[quote][p][bold]Siminitt[/bold] wrote: Extremely happy with how MA is applying himself and long may it continue. To the people who are still critical of the teams performances you need to understand that you cant play pretty football all the time, winning games the hard way through sheer effort is sometimes what's needed and 3 points whilst playing non attractive football is better that 0 points and playing total football. Special mention to Rhodes....... Simply Amazing![/p][/quote]Doesnt have to be all or nothing. There is an option of a bit of both. I recall SA having a more pragmatic approach and the fans moaned and groaned and Venks got rid. To.guy
  • Score: 0

6:03pm Tue 12 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

bburnrover wrote:
Well one down we lost out to Wolves they were more serious than us probably didn't have to wait for their owner to finish having his nails done and a new full stop on his forehead.
Or it could be because Saunders may have guaranteed him first team football from the outset, Wolves may have offered him better terms, he might not want to move home meaning Wolverhampton would be an easier commute, etc. Also, keep your borderline derogatory comments to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Well one down we lost out to Wolves they were more serious than us probably didn't have to wait for their owner to finish having his nails done and a new full stop on his forehead.[/p][/quote]Or it could be because Saunders may have guaranteed him first team football from the outset, Wolves may have offered him better terms, he might not want to move home meaning Wolverhampton would be an easier commute, etc. Also, keep your borderline derogatory comments to yourself. srvp28
  • Score: 1

6:44pm Tue 12 Feb 13

CheltRover says...

bburnrover wrote:
Well one down we lost out to Wolves they were more serious than us probably didn't have to wait for their owner to finish having his nails done and a new full stop on his forehead.
Sexist and racist comment. I'm guessing you are homophobic too?
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Well one down we lost out to Wolves they were more serious than us probably didn't have to wait for their owner to finish having his nails done and a new full stop on his forehead.[/p][/quote]Sexist and racist comment. I'm guessing you are homophobic too? CheltRover
  • Score: 1

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