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Clarets boss feels officials in danger of ‘killing the game’

SEAN Dyche fears referees are in danger of ‘killing football’ after questioning Dean Marney’s red card against Birmingham City.

The Burnley boss has vowed to consult the assessors after slamming Darren Drysdale’s decision to give the midfielder his marching orders in Saturday’s 2-1 defeat. The second-half dismissal was the third red card shown to the Clarets in 16 games since Dyche took charge in late October.

Kieran Trippier was red-carded after being adjudged to have handled on the line against Charlton Athletic, while Brian Stock was the victim of mistaken identity in the FA Cup defeat at Barnsley earlier this month.

Dyche felt neither were warranted, but was particularly incensed by the latest sending off, and is ready to tackle refereeing authorities.

Marney was dismissed in the 61st minute after going in firmly for a 50-50 tackle with Paul Robinson.

Replays showed the Clarets midfielder had reached the ball first, one-footed, while Robinson arrived later, with both feet, leading Birmingham boss Lee Clark to concede that he feared his team would be the one reduced to 10 men.

“For the greater good of football you can’t be getting sent off for making great tackles like that. I just find it incredible,” said Dyche.

“You cannot take a great tackle like that out of the game because it will kill football.”

Burnley had drawn level through a Ross Wallace penalty after Curtis Davies had put Birmingham in front in the first half.

But the visitors’ one-man advantage took its toll, as Marlon King grabbed a late winner, which only compounded Dyche’s frustration.

“We’ve had six game-changing decisions now in 16 games, including three sendings off – one for mistaken identity, one for a handball on the line which no-one could believe he got sent off for, and that one.

“That’s not good enough, in my opinion,” said Dyche, who is considering further action.

Stoke City boss Tony Pulis held discussions with chairman of the Professional Game Match Officials Board, Mike Riley, last month after feeling too many referees were giving Stoke unfair treatment.

“As a manager you don’t want it to get to that stage, but I’ve just given you the stats and that’s not good reading from 16 games,” said Dyche.

“I’ll be looking for answers from the referees’ association on that one today because I just can’t work it out.

“For a club like us that’s worked so hard to get ourselves into a really strong position, the players worked ever so hard again, played some fantastic football, 10 v 11 still creating chances, (Jack) Butland pulled off a terrific save, Danny Ings hits the bar, some of the football was excellent, but you’re having to earn wins not just by beating 11 players.

“We’re having to go beyond that, and that shouldn’t be right in my opinion.

“The officials should be there to manage the game, not make decisions that change it radically or come as a surprise to people.

“I was surprised to see someone go off the pitch. It had a massive effect on the game when I think we were beginning to control it.”

Dyche now fears tackling is at risk of being eliminated from the game, after questioning Drysdale’s reason for showing Marney a red card.

“It was for excessive force apparently, so I think you’ve got to tackle softly now,” said the Burnley boss.

“We want the beauty of football – all managers out there want to play the beautiful game. We all want to try to be a version of Barcelona and Manchester United and Chelsea, but you can’t take away tackling, you can’t take away the nature of good strong tackles. It’s what fans buzz off and it’s part of the beautiful game. I’m just flummoxed.

“I always try to make it clear the three toughest jobs in football are the two managers and the referee.

“I’ve got no problem with referees, but it’s hard to not have a problem with that performance.”

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8:32am Mon 28 Jan 13

ford10 says...

your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!!
your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!! ford10
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9:28am Mon 28 Jan 13

midas says...

It wasn't a poor defensive performance save for the one lapse at the corner! How many saves did Grant have to make? Brum put us under pressure at the set pieces and when we were down to 10 scored a good goal at the end.
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Whats are you whining about?
It wasn't a poor defensive performance save for the one lapse at the corner! How many saves did Grant have to make? Brum put us under pressure at the set pieces and when we were down to 10 scored a good goal at the end. . Whats are you whining about? midas
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11:36am Mon 28 Jan 13

Pompey Claret says...

ford10 wrote:
your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!!
You obviously don't have a clue or the facts to back up your stupid comment.

Think before you open your mouth fool.
[quote][p][bold]ford10[/bold] wrote: your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You obviously don't have a clue or the facts to back up your stupid comment. Think before you open your mouth fool. Pompey Claret
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12:32pm Mon 28 Jan 13

vintageclaret says...

ford10 wrote:
your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!!
What poor defensive performance are you referring to???

Obviously you were not at the match, the team as a whole are giving everything and Grant had hardly any pressure except as Midas says 'on set pieces'

Either get on the Turf and support the Clarets or stay away from these blogs as it appears you do from your comment i.e. not actually going to matches.
[quote][p][bold]ford10[/bold] wrote: your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]What poor defensive performance are you referring to??? Obviously you were not at the match, the team as a whole are giving everything and Grant had hardly any pressure except as Midas says 'on set pieces' Either get on the Turf and support the Clarets or stay away from these blogs as it appears you do from your comment i.e. not actually going to matches. vintageclaret
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1:04pm Mon 28 Jan 13

hasslem hasslem says...

blimey! - three dingles that have a soupcon of intelligence rather than the normal detritus from over there that infects over here. given the unusually large concentration of brain cells in pompey, vintage and midas - you three should never be in the same room at the same time (a bit like the yolks who have the recipe for coca cola) - as the dingle gene-pool will be severely diluted.

gentlemen, from day one i argued with dingle supporters near where i live that dyche would be an ideal manager for your lot (i lived in watford for 18 years and have many friends who are hornets fans) and nothing i have seen from him leads me to conclude my initial thoughts were incorrect.

however, what i will criticise him for is when you get a result that does not go your way - he always blames somebody else or expresses that he is baffled how such things happen.

now as a rover i have, in recent times, become used to managers not telling it how it is and i see dyche starting to do the same. he should be careful and sometimes just admit that maybe you were unlucky - but that's how it goes.

kean and lardy used to do post matches and you would swear blind that they must have been at a different game....leads to distrust if it keeps going on.

anyhow - enough from me - midas i hope your donkey ears are not too cold in this weather.....and pompey - no need to resort to daft insults on the rovers page - we get enough of that from your fellow sub-species who pollute rovers pages.
blimey! - three dingles that have a soupcon of intelligence rather than the normal detritus from over there that infects over here. given the unusually large concentration of brain cells in pompey, vintage and midas - you three should never be in the same room at the same time (a bit like the yolks who have the recipe for coca cola) - as the dingle gene-pool will be severely diluted. gentlemen, from day one i argued with dingle supporters near where i live that dyche would be an ideal manager for your lot (i lived in watford for 18 years and have many friends who are hornets fans) and nothing i have seen from him leads me to conclude my initial thoughts were incorrect. however, what i will criticise him for is when you get a result that does not go your way - he always blames somebody else or expresses that he is baffled how such things happen. now as a rover i have, in recent times, become used to managers not telling it how it is and i see dyche starting to do the same. he should be careful and sometimes just admit that maybe you were unlucky - but that's how it goes. kean and lardy used to do post matches and you would swear blind that they must have been at a different game....leads to distrust if it keeps going on. anyhow - enough from me - midas i hope your donkey ears are not too cold in this weather.....and pompey - no need to resort to daft insults on the rovers page - we get enough of that from your fellow sub-species who pollute rovers pages. hasslem hasslem
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2:10pm Mon 28 Jan 13

midas says...

This is a modern malaise that has come about because managers are interviewed straight after the game. When was the last time you heard a manager give a fair account of the match? they very rarely blame anyone from their team or even concede that the opposition were just better (though Clough came close!)
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He was a poor ref though, for both teams. Our penalty was a bit fortunate :-)
This is a modern malaise that has come about because managers are interviewed straight after the game. When was the last time you heard a manager give a fair account of the match? they very rarely blame anyone from their team or even concede that the opposition were just better (though Clough came close!) . He was a poor ref though, for both teams. Our penalty was a bit fortunate :-) midas
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5:05pm Mon 28 Jan 13

buckoff says...

vintageclaret wrote:
ford10 wrote:
your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!!
What poor defensive performance are you referring to???

Obviously you were not at the match, the team as a whole are giving everything and Grant had hardly any pressure except as Midas says 'on set pieces'

Either get on the Turf and support the Clarets or stay away from these blogs as it appears you do from your comment i.e. not actually going to matches.
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[quote][p][bold]vintageclaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ford10[/bold] wrote: your always complaining about the officials Mr Dyche, take a look at the poor defensive performance on Saturday instead, the officials are not at fault all the time!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]What poor defensive performance are you referring to??? Obviously you were not at the match, the team as a whole are giving everything and Grant had hardly any pressure except as Midas says 'on set pieces' Either get on the Turf and support the Clarets or stay away from these blogs as it appears you do from your comment i.e. not actually going to matches.[/p][/quote]Blackburn Rovers handed Arsenal trip in FA Cup 6:05pm Sunday 27th January 2013 in Football BLACKBURN Rovers have been drawn away to Arsenal in the fifth round of the FA Cup. Rovers won 3-0 at Derby in the fourth round but face Arsenal for the first time since being beaten 7-1 at the Emirates in the Premier League last season. Ties are scheduled to take place on the weekend of February 16 and 17. buckoff
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5:19pm Mon 28 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

oh get over it. you lost end off
oh get over it. you lost end off 1952 rover
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5:39pm Mon 28 Jan 13

anon starter says...

Whine whine whine!! Get a grip dyche. You'll be glad of a robust ref to protect you girls at fortress Ewood
Whine whine whine!! Get a grip dyche. You'll be glad of a robust ref to protect you girls at fortress Ewood anon starter
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5:47pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Pompey Claret says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
blimey! - three dingles that have a soupcon of intelligence rather than the normal detritus from over there that infects over here. given the unusually large concentration of brain cells in pompey, vintage and midas - you three should never be in the same room at the same time (a bit like the yolks who have the recipe for coca cola) - as the dingle gene-pool will be severely diluted.

gentlemen, from day one i argued with dingle supporters near where i live that dyche would be an ideal manager for your lot (i lived in watford for 18 years and have many friends who are hornets fans) and nothing i have seen from him leads me to conclude my initial thoughts were incorrect.

however, what i will criticise him for is when you get a result that does not go your way - he always blames somebody else or expresses that he is baffled how such things happen.

now as a rover i have, in recent times, become used to managers not telling it how it is and i see dyche starting to do the same. he should be careful and sometimes just admit that maybe you were unlucky - but that's how it goes.

kean and lardy used to do post matches and you would swear blind that they must have been at a different game....leads to distrust if it keeps going on.

anyhow - enough from me - midas i hope your donkey ears are not too cold in this weather.....and pompey - no need to resort to daft insults on the rovers page - we get enough of that from your fellow sub-species who pollute rovers pages.
Hassie long time no hear from you me ole fruit cake.

Completely understand what you are trying to say but yu are missing the point chap.

We all know referees have a tough job to do. However the point is about consistency regarding some decisions that border on being stupid.

I am not just talking about Burnley games but many others that I have seen this season.

Marney was set off for tackling with excessive force. Now i respect that you a Rovers supporter but i have watch that tackle over and over again and niether was it a bookable offence let alone a sending off.

He got to the ball first, he won the ball, his foot was down and skimming the surface of the turf. The opposing player went in with both feet and his own manager thought that they were going down to 10. He rolled around on the floor in agony to bluff the ref and it worked. Not only that If you have
seen the refs own positioning he was behind Marney so all his focused was on the blues player rolling around on the turf clutching his leg.

It's taking away elements of this great game we love an spoils it for the paying supporter who want to see a good game and consistent refereeing .
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: blimey! - three dingles that have a soupcon of intelligence rather than the normal detritus from over there that infects over here. given the unusually large concentration of brain cells in pompey, vintage and midas - you three should never be in the same room at the same time (a bit like the yolks who have the recipe for coca cola) - as the dingle gene-pool will be severely diluted. gentlemen, from day one i argued with dingle supporters near where i live that dyche would be an ideal manager for your lot (i lived in watford for 18 years and have many friends who are hornets fans) and nothing i have seen from him leads me to conclude my initial thoughts were incorrect. however, what i will criticise him for is when you get a result that does not go your way - he always blames somebody else or expresses that he is baffled how such things happen. now as a rover i have, in recent times, become used to managers not telling it how it is and i see dyche starting to do the same. he should be careful and sometimes just admit that maybe you were unlucky - but that's how it goes. kean and lardy used to do post matches and you would swear blind that they must have been at a different game....leads to distrust if it keeps going on. anyhow - enough from me - midas i hope your donkey ears are not too cold in this weather.....and pompey - no need to resort to daft insults on the rovers page - we get enough of that from your fellow sub-species who pollute rovers pages.[/p][/quote]Hassie long time no hear from you me ole fruit cake. Completely understand what you are trying to say but yu are missing the point chap. We all know referees have a tough job to do. However the point is about consistency regarding some decisions that border on being stupid. I am not just talking about Burnley games but many others that I have seen this season. Marney was set off for tackling with excessive force. Now i respect that you a Rovers supporter but i have watch that tackle over and over again and niether was it a bookable offence let alone a sending off. He got to the ball first, he won the ball, his foot was down and skimming the surface of the turf. The opposing player went in with both feet and his own manager thought that they were going down to 10. He rolled around on the floor in agony to bluff the ref and it worked. Not only that If you have seen the refs own positioning he was behind Marney so all his focused was on the blues player rolling around on the turf clutching his leg. It's taking away elements of this great game we love an spoils it for the paying supporter who want to see a good game and consistent refereeing . Pompey Claret
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5:48pm Mon 28 Jan 13

TodClaret says...

anon starter wrote:
Whine whine whine!! Get a grip dyche. You'll be glad of a robust ref to protect you girls at fortress Ewood
Fortress Ewood? Pippin Fort more like! Ha ha
[quote][p][bold]anon starter[/bold] wrote: Whine whine whine!! Get a grip dyche. You'll be glad of a robust ref to protect you girls at fortress Ewood[/p][/quote]Fortress Ewood? Pippin Fort more like! Ha ha TodClaret
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5:53pm Mon 28 Jan 13

anon starter says...

Just got my £62 ready for my arsenal ticket. Or shall I buy a row of terraced houses next to dook baaah! Mmmm decisions decisions
Just got my £62 ready for my arsenal ticket. Or shall I buy a row of terraced houses next to dook baaah! Mmmm decisions decisions anon starter
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6:11pm Mon 28 Jan 13

TodClaret says...

anon starter wrote:
Just got my £62 ready for my arsenal ticket. Or shall I buy a row of terraced houses next to dook baaah! Mmmm decisions decisions
That sounds like a good investment to me mate. You can buy your Arsenal ticket with the money you saved by not going to Derby.

Sheer genius!
[quote][p][bold]anon starter[/bold] wrote: Just got my £62 ready for my arsenal ticket. Or shall I buy a row of terraced houses next to dook baaah! Mmmm decisions decisions[/p][/quote]That sounds like a good investment to me mate. You can buy your Arsenal ticket with the money you saved by not going to Derby. Sheer genius! TodClaret
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6:16pm Mon 28 Jan 13

anon starter says...

I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it!
I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it! anon starter
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6:35pm Mon 28 Jan 13

TodClaret says...

anon starter wrote:
I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it!
Fair play bud. I don't have a problem with loyal supporters no matter who's colours they wear.
[quote][p][bold]anon starter[/bold] wrote: I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it![/p][/quote]Fair play bud. I don't have a problem with loyal supporters no matter who's colours they wear. TodClaret
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6:55pm Mon 28 Jan 13

anon starter says...

Me neither. Touché
Me neither. Touché anon starter
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9:48pm Mon 28 Jan 13

claret style says...

anon starter wrote:
Me neither. Touché
Seemed like you were watching final score or sky sports when the goals went in at derby and Burnley with your comments on Saturday. Your nose could be growing!
[quote][p][bold]anon starter[/bold] wrote: Me neither. Touché[/p][/quote]Seemed like you were watching final score or sky sports when the goals went in at derby and Burnley with your comments on Saturday. Your nose could be growing! claret style
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7:40am Tue 29 Jan 13

midas says...

anon starter wrote:
I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it!
Yes course you where! I bet you go to all the games, and you lead the boycott, and you lead the protest march, and you go to all the away games, and everyone at Ewood knows you.....!!
[quote][p][bold]anon starter[/bold] wrote: I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it![/p][/quote]Yes course you where! I bet you go to all the games, and you lead the boycott, and you lead the protest march, and you go to all the away games, and everyone at Ewood knows you.....!! midas
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9:07am Tue 29 Jan 13

claret style says...

midas wrote:
anon starter wrote:
I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it!
Yes course you where! I bet you go to all the games, and you lead the boycott, and you lead the protest march, and you go to all the away games, and everyone at Ewood knows you.....!!
Think anon goer best check his bum it could be on fire.
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]anon starter[/bold] wrote: I was there Tod like I am every game. Shame some of your pals like Chris P Signon can't say the same!! Foreign travel's good for you - should try it![/p][/quote]Yes course you where! I bet you go to all the games, and you lead the boycott, and you lead the protest march, and you go to all the away games, and everyone at Ewood knows you.....!![/p][/quote]Think anon goer best check his bum it could be on fire. claret style
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11:43am Tue 29 Jan 13

Fan@clared says...

Pompey Claret wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
blimey! - three dingles that have a soupcon of intelligence rather than the normal detritus from over there that infects over here. given the unusually large concentration of brain cells in pompey, vintage and midas - you three should never be in the same room at the same time (a bit like the yolks who have the recipe for coca cola) - as the dingle gene-pool will be severely diluted.

gentlemen, from day one i argued with dingle supporters near where i live that dyche would be an ideal manager for your lot (i lived in watford for 18 years and have many friends who are hornets fans) and nothing i have seen from him leads me to conclude my initial thoughts were incorrect.

however, what i will criticise him for is when you get a result that does not go your way - he always blames somebody else or expresses that he is baffled how such things happen.

now as a rover i have, in recent times, become used to managers not telling it how it is and i see dyche starting to do the same. he should be careful and sometimes just admit that maybe you were unlucky - but that's how it goes.

kean and lardy used to do post matches and you would swear blind that they must have been at a different game....leads to distrust if it keeps going on.

anyhow - enough from me - midas i hope your donkey ears are not too cold in this weather.....and pompey - no need to resort to daft insults on the rovers page - we get enough of that from your fellow sub-species who pollute rovers pages.
Hassie long time no hear from you me ole fruit cake.

Completely understand what you are trying to say but yu are missing the point chap.

We all know referees have a tough job to do. However the point is about consistency regarding some decisions that border on being stupid.

I am not just talking about Burnley games but many others that I have seen this season.

Marney was set off for tackling with excessive force. Now i respect that you a Rovers supporter but i have watch that tackle over and over again and niether was it a bookable offence let alone a sending off.

He got to the ball first, he won the ball, his foot was down and skimming the surface of the turf. The opposing player went in with both feet and his own manager thought that they were going down to 10. He rolled around on the floor in agony to bluff the ref and it worked. Not only that If you have
seen the refs own positioning he was behind Marney so all his focused was on the blues player rolling around on the turf clutching his leg.

It's taking away elements of this great game we love an spoils it for the paying supporter who want to see a good game and consistent refereeing .
I wasn't even a foul. More, the referee (and its being kind calling ihim that) was behind the tackle so probably didn't see he contact with the ball. The Birmingham guy was late. So all the comments from idiots who were not the match are void. Like I say before players will have to say excuse me before taclkling if this carries on. The next generation to watch football won't know what a tackle is.
[quote][p][bold]Pompey Claret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: blimey! - three dingles that have a soupcon of intelligence rather than the normal detritus from over there that infects over here. given the unusually large concentration of brain cells in pompey, vintage and midas - you three should never be in the same room at the same time (a bit like the yolks who have the recipe for coca cola) - as the dingle gene-pool will be severely diluted. gentlemen, from day one i argued with dingle supporters near where i live that dyche would be an ideal manager for your lot (i lived in watford for 18 years and have many friends who are hornets fans) and nothing i have seen from him leads me to conclude my initial thoughts were incorrect. however, what i will criticise him for is when you get a result that does not go your way - he always blames somebody else or expresses that he is baffled how such things happen. now as a rover i have, in recent times, become used to managers not telling it how it is and i see dyche starting to do the same. he should be careful and sometimes just admit that maybe you were unlucky - but that's how it goes. kean and lardy used to do post matches and you would swear blind that they must have been at a different game....leads to distrust if it keeps going on. anyhow - enough from me - midas i hope your donkey ears are not too cold in this weather.....and pompey - no need to resort to daft insults on the rovers page - we get enough of that from your fellow sub-species who pollute rovers pages.[/p][/quote]Hassie long time no hear from you me ole fruit cake. Completely understand what you are trying to say but yu are missing the point chap. We all know referees have a tough job to do. However the point is about consistency regarding some decisions that border on being stupid. I am not just talking about Burnley games but many others that I have seen this season. Marney was set off for tackling with excessive force. Now i respect that you a Rovers supporter but i have watch that tackle over and over again and niether was it a bookable offence let alone a sending off. He got to the ball first, he won the ball, his foot was down and skimming the surface of the turf. The opposing player went in with both feet and his own manager thought that they were going down to 10. He rolled around on the floor in agony to bluff the ref and it worked. Not only that If you have seen the refs own positioning he was behind Marney so all his focused was on the blues player rolling around on the turf clutching his leg. It's taking away elements of this great game we love an spoils it for the paying supporter who want to see a good game and consistent refereeing .[/p][/quote]I wasn't even a foul. More, the referee (and its being kind calling ihim that) was behind the tackle so probably didn't see he contact with the ball. The Birmingham guy was late. So all the comments from idiots who were not the match are void. Like I say before players will have to say excuse me before taclkling if this carries on. The next generation to watch football won't know what a tackle is. Fan@clared
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