ROVERS COLUMN: Berg needs help from the top

YOU couldn’t blame Henning Berg for wondering what he has got himself into.

Just a few months ago he was enjoying earning a living as a pundit for Norwegian TV, now he is attempting to succeed in what, at times, looks like the impossible job.

Henning obviously thought life at Ewood Park would be smoother than it has turned out. He thought the squad was better than it is and believed the owners had learned from their mistakes.

Nine games in and he is already a man under pressure. Some supporters are questioning whether he is the man for the job and speculation is growing about his own mounting frustration.

Rumours about Berg’s future are inevitable after the run Rovers are on at the moment. One win in nine games would put any manager under pressure.

Certain people in India are known to be growing increasingly twitchy about the situation as they start to fear an instant Premier League return is now not on the cards.

Failure to turn around Rovers fortunes before the New Year will almost certainly mean Rovers have to accept promotion is a no-go.

Some will say this means Berg has failed and needs to go and you can’t help but feel Venky’s might agree.

In a way they are right. He would have failed and not getting promoted will mean Venky’s have to dig deep in their pockets to cover what will be massive financial losses.

Would any manager succeed in the current circumstances? You look at a number of factors and it is difficult to see how they would.

Firstly the squad has proved itself to simply be not good enough. I was among those who thought some of the summer signings would do well in the Championship but am the first to admit I was wrong.

The transfer window was a disaster in epic proportions. Out of the 12 players brought in, only striker Jordan Rhodes has proved a success.

Berg can’t be blamed for that. That has to be down to Steve Kean and global advisor Shebby Singh.

The internal problems at Ewood Park have still not disappeared. There is conflict in the corridors of power and no one still has any real idea about who is running the club.

Was Berg the right appointment? At the time, it always looked a gamble with far more experienced candidates out there. But can you imagine Ian Holloway or Mick McCarthy working under Venky’s? They wouldn’t have lasted very long under the current regime.

Berg was the man given the responsibility to turn things around but he needs to be given the environment to stand a chance.

If he is going to fail, let him fail because of his own decisions and mistakes. Not other peoples.

It is very difficult to judge Henning at the moment as this isn’t his squad and I think we all know the club is still a mess from top to bottom.

As for the Christmas party farce. Henning was spot on in refusing to dance on stage with a wig on his head. The person who asked him to should be looking at his own judgement.

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10:10am Thu 20 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Lets face it HB was the easy option to appoint, cheap, would not go against Shebby, as previously stated two managers with drew the applications,

WHY did they Mr Agnew, hello are still there Mr Agnew hello can you here me?
Lets face it HB was the easy option to appoint, cheap, would not go against Shebby, as previously stated two managers with drew the applications, WHY did they Mr Agnew, hello are still there Mr Agnew hello can you here me? Lancs - pensioner

10:12am Thu 20 Dec 12

cruzy_cruz says...

If only you had preserved 'your credibility' Mr Berg

I suppose the CASH eases the pain
If only you had preserved 'your credibility' Mr Berg I suppose the CASH eases the pain cruzy_cruz

10:18am Thu 20 Dec 12

Rayzerisaloser says...

berg out berg out
berg out berg out Rayzerisaloser

10:21am Thu 20 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Berg needs help from the top"? I don't know about from the top? But certainly from on high! Even God would struggle to help this shower.
Berg needs help from the top"? I don't know about from the top? But certainly from on high! Even God would struggle to help this shower. A Darener

10:31am Thu 20 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

I dont buy that he didnt know what he was getting into. The whole football world knew the situation at Blackburn Rovers. It had been constantly in the news all year. I think he thought he could do better in those circumstances or change things. He was fooled like so many before him and was prepared to retract his previous statements for the job and a salary. Who can blame him but it was his decision and he has to now either get on with it and tell the club what his requirements are or get out. I dont want another Steve Kean who was prepare to cow tow to those idiots above him and sacrifice our football club. I dont know about constructive dismissal, we should be taking Kean to court for his abysmal signings and his actions whilst working for Blackburn Rovers
I dont buy that he didnt know what he was getting into. The whole football world knew the situation at Blackburn Rovers. It had been constantly in the news all year. I think he thought he could do better in those circumstances or change things. He was fooled like so many before him and was prepared to retract his previous statements for the job and a salary. Who can blame him but it was his decision and he has to now either get on with it and tell the club what his requirements are or get out. I dont want another Steve Kean who was prepare to cow tow to those idiots above him and sacrifice our football club. I dont know about constructive dismissal, we should be taking Kean to court for his abysmal signings and his actions whilst working for Blackburn Rovers merlinrabbit

10:50am Thu 20 Dec 12

AndyW says...

Good column.
Good column. AndyW

10:50am Thu 20 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

He s going to need help from that great 'Football Guru' in the sky because there will be little that can be offered from the idiots Singh/Venkys - yes like with other posts on here Shaw Agnew Singh went for the cheap option and they got what they deserved!!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE BERG
He s going to need help from that great 'Football Guru' in the sky because there will be little that can be offered from the idiots Singh/Venkys - yes like with other posts on here Shaw Agnew Singh went for the cheap option and they got what they deserved!!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS AND MAYBE BERG dangerous dave

10:59am Thu 20 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

"YOU couldn't blame Henning Berg for wondering what he has got himself into". Excuse me? HB knew EXACTLY what he was getting into. That's why he said on live television, that no real manager with credibility would take the job. Just read the link, he calls it spot on.

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BRFC. Made in Blackburn. Destroyed in India.
"YOU couldn't blame Henning Berg for wondering what he has got himself into". Excuse me? HB knew EXACTLY what he was getting into. That's why he said on live television, that no real manager with credibility would take the job. Just read the link, he calls it spot on. http://www.telegraph .co.uk/sport/footbal l/teams/blackburn-ro vers/9645682/Blackbu rn-set-to-appoint-He nning-Berg-new-manag er-despite-stating-w orking-under-Venkys- would-be-madness.htm l BRFC. Made in Blackburn. Destroyed in India. Stone Island:

11:15am Thu 20 Dec 12

sonny says...

Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that. sonny

11:24am Thu 20 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! dangerous dave

11:34am Thu 20 Dec 12

sonny says...

dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead. sonny

11:38am Thu 20 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

L.E.T theres a lot of Bull in your article, BERG and VENKYS knew exactly what the score was ,, if u appoint an inexperienced managers you fail REMEMBER A STEVE KEAN !!
Venkys had the chance to appoint a proven manager, they chose the cheap option yet again, Berg new EXACTLY what the problems where before he arrived, Dont undermine the fans
L.E.T theres a lot of Bull in your article, BERG and VENKYS knew exactly what the score was ,, if u appoint an inexperienced managers you fail REMEMBER A STEVE KEAN !! Venkys had the chance to appoint a proven manager, they chose the cheap option yet again, Berg new EXACTLY what the problems where before he arrived, Dont undermine the fans Keen O to Get Kean Out

11:56am Thu 20 Dec 12

riversidefan says...

Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.
Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is. riversidefan

11:59am Thu 20 Dec 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Stay strong Henning dont let the fools grind you down and make sure things are done your way. If Venky's dont like it they have the option to sack you and you will get a good pay out but stand firm. The fans need someone sensible to get behind and Derek Shaw should stop hiding and put his neck on line to support you, after all he was claiming a lot of credit for your appointment in the beginning.Derek Shaw knows our culture and as Managing Director should get that Shebby sorted and back his man and stop all this game playing.
Stay strong Henning dont let the fools grind you down and make sure things are done your way. If Venky's dont like it they have the option to sack you and you will get a good pay out but stand firm. The fans need someone sensible to get behind and Derek Shaw should stop hiding and put his neck on line to support you, after all he was claiming a lot of credit for your appointment in the beginning.Derek Shaw knows our culture and as Managing Director should get that Shebby sorted and back his man and stop all this game playing. A Rover 45 years and over

12:02pm Thu 20 Dec 12

RoverInRotterdam says...

sonny wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D.
[quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.[/p][/quote]Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D. RoverInRotterdam

12:19pm Thu 20 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

sonny wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.[/p][/quote]Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dangerous dave

12:26pm Thu 20 Dec 12

1riversider says...

Let's face the truth - Venky's and the Three Stooges don't know how to support a bloody ladder, never mind a football manager - even if they cared, which I very much doubt. The whole bunch are utterly incompetent.

Venky's - idiots
Shabby - moron
Shaw - ask any PNE fan about him - clueless
Agnew - invisible

The best thing Henning Berg could do, is walk away now with a bit of dignity, and tell us supporters and the rest of football just what is being done to destroy Blackburn Rovers.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
Let's face the truth - Venky's and the Three Stooges don't know how to support a bloody ladder, never mind a football manager - even if they cared, which I very much doubt. The whole bunch are utterly incompetent. Venky's - idiots Shabby - moron Shaw - ask any PNE fan about him - clueless Agnew - invisible The best thing Henning Berg could do, is walk away now with a bit of dignity, and tell us supporters and the rest of football just what is being done to destroy Blackburn Rovers. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider

12:36pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Venkys employed and appointed Shabby, Shaw and Agnew who are just salary collectors so its 100% Venkys Fault
Venkys employed and appointed Shabby, Shaw and Agnew who are just salary collectors so its 100% Venkys Fault Keen O to Get Kean Out

12:36pm Thu 20 Dec 12

katrew says...

Henning Berg knew what the club was like when he took the job and is being paid well so he cannot have any gripes about the situation he now finds himself in. He has to think long and hard as to whether he has taken on a poison chalice or can he deliver - bearing in mind that promotion this season is what has been asked of him by the clueless owners and a foolish board of directors. He accepted this challenge so we will see how it pans out for him.
Henning Berg knew what the club was like when he took the job and is being paid well so he cannot have any gripes about the situation he now finds himself in. He has to think long and hard as to whether he has taken on a poison chalice or can he deliver - bearing in mind that promotion this season is what has been asked of him by the clueless owners and a foolish board of directors. He accepted this challenge so we will see how it pans out for him. katrew

12:38pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

katrew wrote:
Henning Berg knew what the club was like when he took the job and is being paid well so he cannot have any gripes about the situation he now finds himself in. He has to think long and hard as to whether he has taken on a poison chalice or can he deliver - bearing in mind that promotion this season is what has been asked of him by the clueless owners and a foolish board of directors. He accepted this challenge so we will see how it pans out for him.
and he was a critic of Venkys , bergs no fool he knew wot he was letting himself in for
[quote][p][bold]katrew[/bold] wrote: Henning Berg knew what the club was like when he took the job and is being paid well so he cannot have any gripes about the situation he now finds himself in. He has to think long and hard as to whether he has taken on a poison chalice or can he deliver - bearing in mind that promotion this season is what has been asked of him by the clueless owners and a foolish board of directors. He accepted this challenge so we will see how it pans out for him.[/p][/quote]and he was a critic of Venkys , bergs no fool he knew wot he was letting himself in for Keen O to Get Kean Out

12:42pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP"

That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys.

My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them.

Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy.

This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.
."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP" That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys. My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them. Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy. This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time. Harwoodstblue

1:02pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Paul E says...

Berg is just another Singh puppet, no decent manager would have taken this job.

Our club is rotten to the core and I cant see it getting better until this lot are gone, unfortunately when they go the club will be skint with over aged and over paid has been's.
Berg is just another Singh puppet, no decent manager would have taken this job. Our club is rotten to the core and I cant see it getting better until this lot are gone, unfortunately when they go the club will be skint with over aged and over paid has been's. Paul E

1:07pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Henning Bergs B&W Army.....

As a great ring to it.

I'm backing Berg to succeed or fail on his own terms and merits not with this fiasco he as inherited.

Those at the top had better back him simply put their is no one else out there to step into his shoes who could do any more with what he has.

1. new players.
2. new staff
3. stability
4. success

Here is hoping ?

Arte et labore
Henning Bergs B&W Army..... As a great ring to it. I'm backing Berg to succeed or fail on his own terms and merits not with this fiasco he as inherited. Those at the top had better back him simply put their is no one else out there to step into his shoes who could do any more with what he has. 1. new players. 2. new staff 3. stability 4. success Here is hoping ? Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

1:23pm Thu 20 Dec 12

moh says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Henning Bergs B&W Army..... As a great ring to it. I'm backing Berg to succeed or fail on his own terms and merits not with this fiasco he as inherited. Those at the top had better back him simply put their is no one else out there to step into his shoes who could do any more with what he has. 1. new players. 2. new staff 3. stability 4. success Here is hoping ? Arte et labore
completely agree, he is a decent man and needs to be given time and support. He has my support.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs B&W Army..... As a great ring to it. I'm backing Berg to succeed or fail on his own terms and merits not with this fiasco he as inherited. Those at the top had better back him simply put their is no one else out there to step into his shoes who could do any more with what he has. 1. new players. 2. new staff 3. stability 4. success Here is hoping ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]completely agree, he is a decent man and needs to be given time and support. He has my support. moh

1:28pm Thu 20 Dec 12

alfa111 says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Henning Bergs B&W Army.....

As a great ring to it.

I'm backing Berg to succeed or fail on his own terms and merits not with this fiasco he as inherited.

Those at the top had better back him simply put their is no one else out there to step into his shoes who could do any more with what he has.

1. new players.
2. new staff
3. stability
4. success

Here is hoping ?

Arte et labore
Wish they were going to back him with some real financial clout ,sadly past experiences with venkys say its the oposite.Meetings have been taking place just as last season when rovers were near the bottom of the P/L,BRFC are now to be down graded once again to fit a lower budget for next season in this or a lower league,
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs B&W Army..... As a great ring to it. I'm backing Berg to succeed or fail on his own terms and merits not with this fiasco he as inherited. Those at the top had better back him simply put their is no one else out there to step into his shoes who could do any more with what he has. 1. new players. 2. new staff 3. stability 4. success Here is hoping ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Wish they were going to back him with some real financial clout ,sadly past experiences with venkys say its the oposite.Meetings have been taking place just as last season when rovers were near the bottom of the P/L,BRFC are now to be down graded once again to fit a lower budget for next season in this or a lower league, alfa111

1:41pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

riversidefan wrote:
Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.
Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again)

MM Ipswich

Holloway CP

Freedman Bolton

Anderston? Blackpool

All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one,

With this lot running our ship we are sunk!
[quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.[/p][/quote]Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again) MM Ipswich Holloway CP Freedman Bolton Anderston? Blackpool All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one, With this lot running our ship we are sunk! Lancs - pensioner

1:43pm Thu 20 Dec 12

French Rover says...

sonny wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
well said Sonny...if DD was to give us his addresses (from all his many split and other personalities and posting pseudonyms) then it would fill a dozen LET's...

Berg knew perfectly well what he was walking into, that is well documented from his current and previous comments. He obviously believes he can cope with it and do the job - so he has to be given the chance to do that.
[quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.[/p][/quote]well said Sonny...if DD was to give us his addresses (from all his many split and other personalities and posting pseudonyms) then it would fill a dozen LET's... Berg knew perfectly well what he was walking into, that is well documented from his current and previous comments. He obviously believes he can cope with it and do the job - so he has to be given the chance to do that. French Rover

1:43pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

Obviously there are many at Ewood determined to try and undermine
Berg.....many at Ewood are there for one reason...and that isn't loyalty......Berg has taken mission impossible with this job....A few weeks into the job he now knows a clear out is
needed....players/st
aff/etc....he needs the total support of the money men to implement change.....the whole club is fun of yes men with self survival as thier only priority.
Obviously there are many at Ewood determined to try and undermine Berg.....many at Ewood are there for one reason...and that isn't loyalty......Berg has taken mission impossible with this job....A few weeks into the job he now knows a clear out is needed....players/st aff/etc....he needs the total support of the money men to implement change.....the whole club is fun of yes men with self survival as thier only priority. Iiii1111

1:45pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP"

That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys.

My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them.

Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy.

This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.
Didn't mama chicken herself, promise £5m per window? I'm sure she did. Maybe it was just another LIE!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: ."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP" That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys. My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them. Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy. This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.[/p][/quote]Didn't mama chicken herself, promise £5m per window? I'm sure she did. Maybe it was just another LIE! Stone Island:

1:51pm Thu 20 Dec 12

RoversLXXV says...

'Certain people in India are known to be growing increasingly twitchy about the situation'

It's a pity those same people didn't get twitchy when it became blatantly obvious that Steve Kean was a shockingly bad manager and was a fundamental part of Rovers' relegation. Had they listened to the right people instead of the parasites that 'advised' them we wouldn't be in this mess now.

I don't think you're the right man for the job Henning and you should've taken your own advice and steered well clear. That said, you deserve a medal working under the absolute shambles that is Venky's and the ar5licking yes men working under them.

The clubs rotten to the core and those shysters Venkys and all the other cronies have a lot to answer for

RTID
'Certain people in India are known to be growing increasingly twitchy about the situation' It's a pity those same people didn't get twitchy when it became blatantly obvious that Steve Kean was a shockingly bad manager and was a fundamental part of Rovers' relegation. Had they listened to the right people instead of the parasites that 'advised' them we wouldn't be in this mess now. I don't think you're the right man for the job Henning and you should've taken your own advice and steered well clear. That said, you deserve a medal working under the absolute shambles that is Venky's and the ar5licking yes men working under them. The clubs rotten to the core and those shysters Venkys and all the other cronies have a lot to answer for RTID RoversLXXV

1:55pm Thu 20 Dec 12

RoversLXXV says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP"

That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys.

My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them.

Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy.

This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.
Didn't mama chicken herself, promise £5m per window? I'm sure she did. Maybe it was just another LIE!
There was as much truth in that statement madame bull5hit made as there was in Champions League, Ronaldinho, Beckham and all the other bare faced lies they told. What a f*cking joke.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: ."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP" That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys. My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them. Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy. This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.[/p][/quote]Didn't mama chicken herself, promise £5m per window? I'm sure she did. Maybe it was just another LIE![/p][/quote]There was as much truth in that statement madame bull5hit made as there was in Champions League, Ronaldinho, Beckham and all the other bare faced lies they told. What a f*cking joke. RoversLXXV

1:58pm Thu 20 Dec 12

RoverInRotterdam says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP"

That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys.

My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them.

Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy.

This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.
And anyone who thinks that they and a couple of nameless others have done anything other than personely make millions out of the last two years of destruction should see a shrink. If we don't get promoted before the parachute payments fail to give them a profit that they can skim off from their satelite venkys UK outfit straight to their personal fortune, then i'm araid they'll just do what they have done to several of their non-profitable satelite companies over the years,which has been to strip them of any remaining assets before liquidatating them. And now that there's no-one apart from Berg left at the club who is even remotely interested in anything other than their salary , no-one will to anything about it till it's too late. I'm sure Berg knew that the Club was on its knees,but he;ll have swiftly discovered that it's far ,far worse than that. If they don't offer you cash for the players you know you need then leave with dignity Henning, sign nothing , and do us the biggest favour you can by telling publically everything you've found out about how the Club has been and is being abused by these shysters....R.T.I.D. Since 1969
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: ."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP" That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys. My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them. Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy. This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.[/p][/quote]And anyone who thinks that they and a couple of nameless others have done anything other than personely make millions out of the last two years of destruction should see a shrink. If we don't get promoted before the parachute payments fail to give them a profit that they can skim off from their satelite venkys UK outfit straight to their personal fortune, then i'm araid they'll just do what they have done to several of their non-profitable satelite companies over the years,which has been to strip them of any remaining assets before liquidatating them. And now that there's no-one apart from Berg left at the club who is even remotely interested in anything other than their salary , no-one will to anything about it till it's too late. I'm sure Berg knew that the Club was on its knees,but he;ll have swiftly discovered that it's far ,far worse than that. If they don't offer you cash for the players you know you need then leave with dignity Henning, sign nothing , and do us the biggest favour you can by telling publically everything you've found out about how the Club has been and is being abused by these shysters....R.T.I.D. Since 1969 RoverInRotterdam

1:59pm Thu 20 Dec 12

jack01 says...

Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player.

Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it.

Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this?
Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late.

People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it.
No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong.

The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man.
Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player. Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it. Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this? Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late. People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it. No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong. The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man. jack01

2:11pm Thu 20 Dec 12

noddy57 says...

When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna, noddy57

2:14pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP"

That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys.

My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them.

Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy.

This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.
Didn't mama chicken herself, promise £5m per window? I'm sure she did. Maybe it was just another LIE!
Yes...she promised £5 million each transfer window and that sticks in my craw. She's delivered B****r all yet. A bl***y liar.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: ."BERG NEEDS HELP FROM THE TOP" That's what the headline says, but in my opinion he has more chance of plaiting sawdust than getting money out of Venkys. My guess he'll have to sell to buy, and their are a lot who need to go if we can find someone foolish enough to buy them. Anyone with half a brain can see that they've invested NOTHING in their two year ownership. Selling good players to replace them with inferior ones is just recycling money,Jack Walkers legacy. This will be the 5TH transfer window during their tenure so let us see if they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets this time.[/p][/quote]Didn't mama chicken herself, promise £5m per window? I'm sure she did. Maybe it was just another LIE![/p][/quote]Yes...she promised £5 million each transfer window and that sticks in my craw. She's delivered B****r all yet. A bl***y liar. Harwoodstblue

2:29pm Thu 20 Dec 12

owd nick says...

noddy57 wrote:
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,[/p][/quote]The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone. owd nick

2:34pm Thu 20 Dec 12

riversidefan says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
riversidefan wrote:
Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.
Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again)

MM Ipswich

Holloway CP

Freedman Bolton

Anderston? Blackpool

All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one,

With this lot running our ship we are sunk!
Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh?

As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays.

Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches!
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.[/p][/quote]Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again) MM Ipswich Holloway CP Freedman Bolton Anderston? Blackpool All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one, With this lot running our ship we are sunk![/p][/quote]Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh? As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays. Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches! riversidefan

2:40pm Thu 20 Dec 12

noddymcleod says...

There are still persistant stories circulating that Rovers are just " a money laundering operation" for Venkys. They cannot have any chance whatsover of making Rovers a Permiership outfit, they simply don't have the cash, nor any realistic chance of making Rovers into a hatchery for nurturing and selling on talent, nor is footie taking off in India, nor can they launch their fastfood here or anywhere else on the back of Rovers "fame" - so you have to ask yourself what they are still in it for.
It is clear that Venkys are despised, there's no way back and happily Singh has run out of sympathetic apologists - no one is offering anymore a pathetic "at least he tells it as it is" line. The man has been exposed as a motor mouth charlatan, cashing in the cheques for as long as it lasts.
Equally clear is the majority of sympathy for Berg, largely a legacy of his fine career as a player here and also because he's a decent guy.
My best wish is that he stays longer than Venkys. Beyond it is doom and gloom.
There are still persistant stories circulating that Rovers are just " a money laundering operation" for Venkys. They cannot have any chance whatsover of making Rovers a Permiership outfit, they simply don't have the cash, nor any realistic chance of making Rovers into a hatchery for nurturing and selling on talent, nor is footie taking off in India, nor can they launch their fastfood here or anywhere else on the back of Rovers "fame" - so you have to ask yourself what they are still in it for. It is clear that Venkys are despised, there's no way back and happily Singh has run out of sympathetic apologists - no one is offering anymore a pathetic "at least he tells it as it is" line. The man has been exposed as a motor mouth charlatan, cashing in the cheques for as long as it lasts. Equally clear is the majority of sympathy for Berg, largely a legacy of his fine career as a player here and also because he's a decent guy. My best wish is that he stays longer than Venkys. Beyond it is doom and gloom. noddymcleod

2:47pm Thu 20 Dec 12

owd nick says...

Unless Berg is allowed to bring his own backroom staff in, including a proper fitness coach, and at least five players of his own choice he really doesn't stand a chance.

Everything at Ewood is toxic, the owners don't have a clue, what I think about Shebby isn't printable, the higher management structure is laughable at best, downright incompetent at worst.

Then we come to the coaching staff and players.

I think someone should check that the coaching staff actually have the correct qualifications.

As for the players? I have never seen a team like this playing for Rovers in 40 odd years, terrified of their own shadows they fall apart time after time in a league that is basically made up of teams with nothing much more than well organised, hard working players, I haven't seen anything more than that so far.

With a bit of luck the world will end tomorrow and put us out of our misery.
Unless Berg is allowed to bring his own backroom staff in, including a proper fitness coach, and at least five players of his own choice he really doesn't stand a chance. Everything at Ewood is toxic, the owners don't have a clue, what I think about Shebby isn't printable, the higher management structure is laughable at best, downright incompetent at worst. Then we come to the coaching staff and players. I think someone should check that the coaching staff actually have the correct qualifications. As for the players? I have never seen a team like this playing for Rovers in 40 odd years, terrified of their own shadows they fall apart time after time in a league that is basically made up of teams with nothing much more than well organised, hard working players, I haven't seen anything more than that so far. With a bit of luck the world will end tomorrow and put us out of our misery. owd nick

3:30pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Bill Carson says...

What a week for Henning Berg!
1. Another defeat & poor display that appears to have lost the faithful away following.
2. Total embarrassment at the Xmas party.
3. Topped off by yet another managerial U-turn inside 3 days over the keepers position.
...you couldn't script it!!
And we're still on for the first sub 10k crowd this weekend.
STATUS QUO - Down Down Deeper Down
What a week for Henning Berg! 1. Another defeat & poor display that appears to have lost the faithful away following. 2. Total embarrassment at the Xmas party. 3. Topped off by yet another managerial U-turn inside 3 days over the keepers position. ...you couldn't script it!! And we're still on for the first sub 10k crowd this weekend. STATUS QUO - Down Down Deeper Down Bill Carson

3:41pm Thu 20 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

RoverInRotterdam wrote:
sonny wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D.
Does he buggery. He's a full of sheite whingeing no-man.

All mouth and no trousers.

Watch him start foaming at the mouth and scream with his caps lock lol..
[quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.[/p][/quote]Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D.[/p][/quote]Does he buggery. He's a full of sheite whingeing no-man. All mouth and no trousers. Watch him start foaming at the mouth and scream with his caps lock lol.. blueblooded

3:46pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

riversidefan wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
riversidefan wrote:
Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.
Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again)

MM Ipswich

Holloway CP

Freedman Bolton

Anderston? Blackpool

All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one,

With this lot running our ship we are sunk!
Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh?

As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays.

Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches!
Hi Riverside
I was not taking a pop at you only stating my thoughts, I do not think you or anyone supports the Venkys/Shebby/Agnew if they do they must be Dingles.

I have nothing against HB but his record is poor and Shebby IMO is the one who is running the club really, so again god help us.
[quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.[/p][/quote]Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again) MM Ipswich Holloway CP Freedman Bolton Anderston? Blackpool All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one, With this lot running our ship we are sunk![/p][/quote]Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh? As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays. Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches![/p][/quote]Hi Riverside I was not taking a pop at you only stating my thoughts, I do not think you or anyone supports the Venkys/Shebby/Agnew if they do they must be Dingles. I have nothing against HB but his record is poor and Shebby IMO is the one who is running the club really, so again god help us. Lancs - pensioner

4:11pm Thu 20 Dec 12

moh says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
riversidefan wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
riversidefan wrote: Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.
Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again) MM Ipswich Holloway CP Freedman Bolton Anderston? Blackpool All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one, With this lot running our ship we are sunk!
Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh? As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays. Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches!
Hi Riverside I was not taking a pop at you only stating my thoughts, I do not think you or anyone supports the Venkys/Shebby/Agnew if they do they must be Dingles. I have nothing against HB but his record is poor and Shebby IMO is the one who is running the club really, so again god help us.
Henning Berg said he makes all footballing decisions. Perhaps Henning Berg is also Shebby Singh? The key is the players are better than most teams in Championship. Why are they not performing?
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.[/p][/quote]Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again) MM Ipswich Holloway CP Freedman Bolton Anderston? Blackpool All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one, With this lot running our ship we are sunk![/p][/quote]Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh? As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays. Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches![/p][/quote]Hi Riverside I was not taking a pop at you only stating my thoughts, I do not think you or anyone supports the Venkys/Shebby/Agnew if they do they must be Dingles. I have nothing against HB but his record is poor and Shebby IMO is the one who is running the club really, so again god help us.[/p][/quote]Henning Berg said he makes all footballing decisions. Perhaps Henning Berg is also Shebby Singh? The key is the players are better than most teams in Championship. Why are they not performing? moh

4:23pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

owd nick wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.
Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,[/p][/quote]The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.[/p][/quote]Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight? Stone Island:

4:30pm Thu 20 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

blueblooded wrote:
RoverInRotterdam wrote:
sonny wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D.
Does he buggery. He's a full of sheite whingeing no-man.

All mouth and no trousers.

Watch him start foaming at the mouth and scream with his caps lock lol..
sounds like theres only one diot foaming at the mouth - probably got rabies!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF YOU AND THE IDIOPTS AT EWOOD
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.[/p][/quote]Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D.[/p][/quote]Does he buggery. He's a full of sheite whingeing no-man. All mouth and no trousers. Watch him start foaming at the mouth and scream with his caps lock lol..[/p][/quote]sounds like theres only one diot foaming at the mouth - probably got rabies!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF YOU AND THE IDIOPTS AT EWOOD dangerous dave

4:52pm Thu 20 Dec 12

maltese blue n white says...

jack01 wrote:
Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player.

Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it.

Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this?
Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late.

People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it.
No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong.

The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man.
I am sorry.... But this is not the fault of Berg, I think that he has been mislead, he in all probability thought that he would be allowed to build his own team, and given the players he has worked with, and the managers he has worked under I believe that given time he could accomplish all that we as fans expect from him... Unfortunately Berg has been lied to... Shebby seems to be calling all the shots... and at best he is a used car salesman( A CONMAN) T he Venk's are clueless, the directors .. shaw agnew are invisible, Shebby is a tosser, and the coaching staff are either under threat of losing their jobs or as in the case of Hendry.... an overpaid woman beating, pensioner robbing w@nker of the highest order. Again I say Berg is not a yes man... but given the cr@p he has to work with could you do any better? i seriously doubt I could.
[quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player. Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it. Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this? Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late. People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it. No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong. The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man.[/p][/quote]I am sorry.... But this is not the fault of Berg, I think that he has been mislead, he in all probability thought that he would be allowed to build his own team, and given the players he has worked with, and the managers he has worked under I believe that given time he could accomplish all that we as fans expect from him... Unfortunately Berg has been lied to... Shebby seems to be calling all the shots... and at best he is a used car salesman( A CONMAN) T he Venk's are clueless, the directors .. shaw agnew are invisible, Shebby is a tosser, and the coaching staff are either under threat of losing their jobs or as in the case of Hendry.... an overpaid woman beating, pensioner robbing w@nker of the highest order. Again I say Berg is not a yes man... but given the cr@p he has to work with could you do any better? i seriously doubt I could. maltese blue n white

5:04pm Thu 20 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

jack01 wrote:
Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player.

Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it.

Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this?
Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late.

People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it.
No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong.

The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man.
Spot on and agree totally Jack01. Good post.

I also heard from countless people that because Shebby was put in charge here, they did not interfere with his decision to appoint Henning although they were greatly concerned by his choice.
[quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player. Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it. Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this? Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late. People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it. No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong. The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man.[/p][/quote]Spot on and agree totally Jack01. Good post. I also heard from countless people that because Shebby was put in charge here, they did not interfere with his decision to appoint Henning although they were greatly concerned by his choice. blueblooded

5:05pm Thu 20 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

dangerous dave wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
RoverInRotterdam wrote:
sonny wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D.
Does he buggery. He's a full of sheite whingeing no-man.

All mouth and no trousers.

Watch him start foaming at the mouth and scream with his caps lock lol..
sounds like theres only one diot foaming at the mouth - probably got rabies!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF YOU AND THE IDIOPTS AT EWOOD
aaww.. look at him foaming so badly his typing's gone all silly..

there there!
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoverInRotterdam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.[/p][/quote]Full respect to you David, I wonder if dangerous has the same balls tho ? ... R.T.I.D.[/p][/quote]Does he buggery. He's a full of sheite whingeing no-man. All mouth and no trousers. Watch him start foaming at the mouth and scream with his caps lock lol..[/p][/quote]sounds like theres only one diot foaming at the mouth - probably got rabies!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF YOU AND THE IDIOPTS AT EWOOD[/p][/quote]aaww.. look at him foaming so badly his typing's gone all silly.. there there! blueblooded

5:42pm Thu 20 Dec 12

A Darener says...

There can only be one reason the Venky's appointed Shebby...to deflect all the fans hatred from them to him.
There can only be one reason the Venky's appointed Shebby...to deflect all the fans hatred from them to him. A Darener

6:20pm Thu 20 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.
Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?
I would have thought that was obvious SI.

They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known.

Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor.

The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not.

I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,[/p][/quote]The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.[/p][/quote]Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?[/p][/quote]I would have thought that was obvious SI. They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known. Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor. The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not. I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place. blueblooded

6:48pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
riversidefan wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
riversidefan wrote:
Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.
Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again)

MM Ipswich

Holloway CP

Freedman Bolton

Anderston? Blackpool

All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one,

With this lot running our ship we are sunk!
Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh?

As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays.

Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches!
Hi Riverside
I was not taking a pop at you only stating my thoughts, I do not think you or anyone supports the Venkys/Shebby/Agnew if they do they must be Dingles.

I have nothing against HB but his record is poor and Shebby IMO is the one who is running the club really, so again god help us.
If Singh is running the show, Berg needs to stand up to him and tell him to keep his nose out....The worst thing that could happen is Berg getting sacked with a nice BIG pay out.

Knowing Venkys, there's no way they would sack him.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]riversidefan[/bold] wrote: Good and fair article. Anyone calling for Henning out after just nine games is either a troll or has no understanding of the mess that Kean left of the squad. Even an experienced manager would have struggled with the quality of our midfield. Henning wouldn't have been my choice of manager but once appointed he deserves at least a season before we can judge how good he is.[/p][/quote]Didn't MM at Ipswich have a team near the bottom when he took a very poor team, the argument dies not wash, repeating myself (again) MM Ipswich Holloway CP Freedman Bolton Anderston? Blackpool All took over clubs, all doing a dam sight better than HB, why, IMO there is no in fighting at these clubs, NO GLOBAL ADVISOR, NO press officer who never talks to any one, With this lot running our ship we are sunk![/p][/quote]Where in my comments am I supporting Shaw, Agnew or Singh? As for McCarthy, Holloway, Freedman and Appleton doing better than Henning, it is worth noting that Martin O'Neil won something like 8 or this first 10 matches at Sunderland, then won something like 2 out of the next 25. When Henning took over we were in a false position, even under Black we were dire to watch despite winning a couple of matches. It's pathetic the short-term mentality of football fans nowadays. Since the club has been taken over by the Venky's it has been destroyed both on and off the pitch yet some 'fans' expect Henning (or any other manager) to turn it around after 9 matches![/p][/quote]Hi Riverside I was not taking a pop at you only stating my thoughts, I do not think you or anyone supports the Venkys/Shebby/Agnew if they do they must be Dingles. I have nothing against HB but his record is poor and Shebby IMO is the one who is running the club really, so again god help us.[/p][/quote]If Singh is running the show, Berg needs to stand up to him and tell him to keep his nose out....The worst thing that could happen is Berg getting sacked with a nice BIG pay out. Knowing Venkys, there's no way they would sack him. Harwoodstblue

6:52pm Thu 20 Dec 12

stevo1875 says...

lol rovers and out....... club is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get rid of em all.... no1 want to play for the club or you venkys... the only competition blackburn has is mcdonalds and kfc.... lol ha ha ha sorry for all the fans, YOU had every right to do what you did.... stop going.... they dont care y should you?????
lol rovers and out....... club is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get rid of em all.... no1 want to play for the club or you venkys... the only competition blackburn has is mcdonalds and kfc.... lol ha ha ha sorry for all the fans, YOU had every right to do what you did.... stop going.... they dont care y should you????? stevo1875

7:12pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

blueblooded wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.
Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?
I would have thought that was obvious SI.

They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known.

Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor.

The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not.

I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.
I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so.

The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle.

Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of.

Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing.

If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it.

The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters.
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,[/p][/quote]The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.[/p][/quote]Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?[/p][/quote]I would have thought that was obvious SI. They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known. Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor. The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not. I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.[/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so. The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle. Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of. Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing. If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it. The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters. Stone Island:

8:27pm Thu 20 Dec 12

leitchy says...

BACK BERG - Been there, done it as a player and coach. Taking on mission impossible

SHEBBY OUT - Stick to what ur good at...talking sh1t go back on TV

AGNEW/SHAW - Utter useless get them out!

Venky's - Badley advised and seem to take advise from all the wrong people, however only they have the financial backing to get us out and unfortunately without them we will be in administration very quickly.

Back the team !
BACK BERG - Been there, done it as a player and coach. Taking on mission impossible SHEBBY OUT - Stick to what ur good at...talking sh1t go back on TV AGNEW/SHAW - Utter useless get them out! Venky's - Badley advised and seem to take advise from all the wrong people, however only they have the financial backing to get us out and unfortunately without them we will be in administration very quickly. Back the team ! leitchy

9:04pm Thu 20 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Stone Island: wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.
Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?
I would have thought that was obvious SI.

They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known.

Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor.

The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not.

I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.
I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so.

The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle.

Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of.

Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing.

If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it.

The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters.
the Walkers Trust would have sold the club to a bunch of Martians if they had showed up with the same money as the Venky's - so don't see how they are blameless. They were prostituting the club all over the world for the best part of three years prior to the eventual sale and are in fact THE guilty party in all this.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,[/p][/quote]The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.[/p][/quote]Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?[/p][/quote]I would have thought that was obvious SI. They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known. Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor. The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not. I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.[/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so. The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle. Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of. Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing. If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it. The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters.[/p][/quote]the Walkers Trust would have sold the club to a bunch of Martians if they had showed up with the same money as the Venky's - so don't see how they are blameless. They were prostituting the club all over the world for the best part of three years prior to the eventual sale and are in fact THE guilty party in all this. French Rover

9:14pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

French Rover wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.
Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?
I would have thought that was obvious SI.

They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known.

Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor.

The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not.

I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.
I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so.

The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle.

Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of.

Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing.

If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it.

The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters.
the Walkers Trust would have sold the club to a bunch of Martians if they had showed up with the same money as the Venky's - so don't see how they are blameless. They were prostituting the club all over the world for the best part of three years prior to the eventual sale and are in fact THE guilty party in all this.
My first line says they are NOT BLAMELESS.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,[/p][/quote]The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.[/p][/quote]Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?[/p][/quote]I would have thought that was obvious SI. They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known. Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor. The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not. I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.[/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so. The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle. Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of. Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing. If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it. The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters.[/p][/quote]the Walkers Trust would have sold the club to a bunch of Martians if they had showed up with the same money as the Venky's - so don't see how they are blameless. They were prostituting the club all over the world for the best part of three years prior to the eventual sale and are in fact THE guilty party in all this.[/p][/quote]My first line says they are NOT BLAMELESS. Stone Island:

9:14pm Thu 20 Dec 12

silverstan says...

Who can name another football club with a " global advisor " ?? Its utter ****, The man is a sham & needs to vacate Ewood ASAP. We can't fill half the ground at present so what the **** is Shabba Ranks doing globally to rectify the situation ??? I'll tell you, JACK **** apart from talking **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who can name another football club with a " global advisor " ?? Its utter ****, The man is a sham & needs to vacate Ewood ASAP. We can't fill half the ground at present so what the **** is Shabba Ranks doing globally to rectify the situation ??? I'll tell you, JACK **** apart from talking **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!! silverstan

9:42pm Thu 20 Dec 12

fragileworld says...

Sadly I predicted last year that Rovers would be relegated,and furthermore
would be relegated from the championship as well.Its PAINFULLY obvious
that little money will be available form these "get rich quick merchants".We have all seen the chaotic lifestyle and thinking in India on the "Tele", thats how they are running the club.The real people responsible for starting the ROT were the previous owners who sold us down the river. The way forward
is for the fans to totally boycott the matches until the "INDIANS"are forced to sell-sell-sell.
Fragileworld
Sadly I predicted last year that Rovers would be relegated,and furthermore would be relegated from the championship as well.Its PAINFULLY obvious that little money will be available form these "get rich quick merchants".We have all seen the chaotic lifestyle and thinking in India on the "Tele", thats how they are running the club.The real people responsible for starting the ROT were the previous owners who sold us down the river. The way forward is for the fans to totally boycott the matches until the "INDIANS"are forced to sell-sell-sell. Fragileworld fragileworld

10:34pm Thu 20 Dec 12

owd nick says...

Stone Island: wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
owd nick wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,
The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.
Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?
I would have thought that was obvious SI.

They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known.

Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor.

The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not.

I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.
I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so.

The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle.

Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of.

Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing.

If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it.

The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters.
the Walkers Trust would have sold the club to a bunch of Martians if they had showed up with the same money as the Venky's - so don't see how they are blameless. They were prostituting the club all over the world for the best part of three years prior to the eventual sale and are in fact THE guilty party in all this.
My first line says they are NOT BLAMELESS.
The Walkers are totally to blame, no exceptions, they had no interest in continuing Jack Walkers investment, lets face it, he was a businessman but his heart firmly belonged to Rovers.

He gave us our proudest day in living memory when the Premier League trophy was raised, his family, the trust he set up, destroyed everything and sold us out to the highest bidder irrespective of their credentials.

The Venky's are not stupid, they simply have no understanding of what Blackburn Rovers actually mean to us, the fans, how can they? The concept is totally alien to them.

They live in a different country with a different culture, anyone who has had to deal with Indians on a business level will tell you the same, they do it their way, there is always a lack of urgency, something football cannot tolerate.

But they don't know that, they simply do not understand the concept.

And that is why due diligence has not been satisfied.

Blackburn Rovers are simply a business investment to them, nothing more, nothing less.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: When will you pundits see the light?,berg doesnt need help from the top,the whole bloody football club needs a complete clear out, and by that l mean everybody, starting with the people responsible for the gradual decline of this once proud east lancashire club, the whole set up is a complete farce,as is the team,there is nothing there ,it will take some tough decisions to halt this slide to oblivion,,wake up before its goodnight vienna,[/p][/quote]The people responsible, the Walkers, have already gone.[/p][/quote]Why are the Walkers responsible for our current plight?[/p][/quote]I would have thought that was obvious SI. They sold a club dear to the town and its people to Johnny Foreigners who had no idea of running a football club, having never owned one and coming from a country whose national interest and sport is well known. Not knowing what kind of liability Venky's would be is not good enough a reason to justify their decision, knowing full well what the club meant to the town, its people and its benefactor. The Walkers Trust and family are wholly responsible for their part in the dire state of affairs we are in, whether the decision was a genuine mistake on their part from trusting agents who misled them or not. I feel nothing but loathing for these money grabbing maggots who saw Jack's legacy as nothing more than a costly liability and I'm stunned how few fans, whilst vocal at Venky's obvious faux pas during their disastrous tenure of Rovers - to the point of libellous suggestions of corruption (not a personal criticism of you SI btw), have yet to offer any condemnation to the greedy bedfellows that sold us down the river in the first place.[/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly, that The Trust are not blameless. But there weren't too many people on here, who had genuine concerns about our new owners from the outset. I'd say there was no more than half a dozen or so. The others just believed everything that the Venky's said. All the lies have been well documented, so I won't go over them again. The FAPL must also shoulder some of the blame, for this debacle. Due diligence was carried out, and Venky's passed the so called 'fit and proper test', but god knows how. I'd love to know what the test consists of. Venky's have yet to honour any of the promises they made, when taking over. And IMO, have yet to get a single, major decision right. They have lied through their teeth from the outset, and show no signs of changing. If Venky's had said whilst taking over, that their intentions were to destroy this once proud club, I doubt that they would have been allowed to buy it. The Walker Trust, The FAPL and the vast majority of fans, are the victims of confidence tricksters.[/p][/quote]the Walkers Trust would have sold the club to a bunch of Martians if they had showed up with the same money as the Venky's - so don't see how they are blameless. They were prostituting the club all over the world for the best part of three years prior to the eventual sale and are in fact THE guilty party in all this.[/p][/quote]My first line says they are NOT BLAMELESS.[/p][/quote]The Walkers are totally to blame, no exceptions, they had no interest in continuing Jack Walkers investment, lets face it, he was a businessman but his heart firmly belonged to Rovers. He gave us our proudest day in living memory when the Premier League trophy was raised, his family, the trust he set up, destroyed everything and sold us out to the highest bidder irrespective of their credentials. The Venky's are not stupid, they simply have no understanding of what Blackburn Rovers actually mean to us, the fans, how can they? The concept is totally alien to them. They live in a different country with a different culture, anyone who has had to deal with Indians on a business level will tell you the same, they do it their way, there is always a lack of urgency, something football cannot tolerate. But they don't know that, they simply do not understand the concept. And that is why due diligence has not been satisfied. Blackburn Rovers are simply a business investment to them, nothing more, nothing less. owd nick

12:32am Fri 21 Dec 12

JPainter90 says...

Playing Accy Stanley before long at this rate. Venky's, please just sell up. You're completely useless.
Playing Accy Stanley before long at this rate. Venky's, please just sell up. You're completely useless. JPainter90

12:40am Fri 21 Dec 12

roverinmanchstr says...

jack01 wrote:
Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player.

Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it.

Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this?
Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late.

People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it.
No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong.

The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man.
No!!! Can you not understand that while Venkys are around No one of any quality will take on the role as manager irrespective of who is included in Administraton.......
[quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Sorry but sympathy is fast running out for Berg. I don't care if he served us well as a player. Berg went into this job fully aware of the situation. If he doesn't like it he should do the best thing, resign and tell the world all about it. Just out of interest, what is a sufficient amount of time to give him to start getting results? 5 games, end of the season? Another season after this? Do you hand a guy with his abysmal record funds and precious time to make changes that could damage us further? Or do you recognise that its just not working and appoint somebody with EXPERIENCE before it's too late. People keep slagging Venky's off, but lets look at it on the surface. They appear to be taking a back seat in the running of the club and have delegated powers to people in the UK (which most people wanted them to do), they have appointed 3 people all with experience in football to run the club, two of which claim to be local 'supporters' (admittedly not the ideal people, but they are experienced administrators nonetheless), they have undoubtedly sanctioned several 'big name' signings over the summer and allowed us to retain the majority of last season's so-called premier league squad. Who knows what the financial cost of all that might be but there's no indication at present that they are risking the club's future with it. No wonder they think that there is nothing wrong. The problem appears to be Shebby Singh, and that Venkys are again trusting the wrong person to run the club. If they had left it with Shaw we would have got a proper manager, but because they think that Shebby is a great footballing guru, they have allowed him to go out and appoint a cheap yes man.[/p][/quote]No!!! Can you not understand that while Venkys are around No one of any quality will take on the role as manager irrespective of who is included in Administraton....... roverinmanchstr

5:38am Fri 21 Dec 12

whappen says...

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
Stay strong Henning dont let the fools grind you down and make sure things are done your way. If Venky's dont like it they have the option to sack you and you will get a good pay out but stand firm. The fans need someone sensible to get behind and Derek Shaw should stop hiding and put his neck on line to support you, after all he was claiming a lot of credit for your appointment in the beginning.Derek Shaw knows our culture and as Managing Director should get that Shebby sorted and back his man and stop all this game playing.
Shaw was anything but supportive.

I remember an interview on SSN after HB was appointed; Shaw said he wasn't the man he wanted - he wanted someone with more experience. Fair enough, but having appointed him he should have given him his full backing.

His "support" was underwhelming; you don't hire a manager then say you wanted someone else.

Negative and unprofessional - another example of the standard of people "running" this club.
[quote][p][bold]A Rover 45 years and over[/bold] wrote: Stay strong Henning dont let the fools grind you down and make sure things are done your way. If Venky's dont like it they have the option to sack you and you will get a good pay out but stand firm. The fans need someone sensible to get behind and Derek Shaw should stop hiding and put his neck on line to support you, after all he was claiming a lot of credit for your appointment in the beginning.Derek Shaw knows our culture and as Managing Director should get that Shebby sorted and back his man and stop all this game playing.[/p][/quote]Shaw was anything but supportive. I remember an interview on SSN after HB was appointed; Shaw said he wasn't the man he wanted - he wanted someone with more experience. Fair enough, but having appointed him he should have given him his full backing. His "support" was underwhelming; you don't hire a manager then say you wanted someone else. Negative and unprofessional - another example of the standard of people "running" this club. whappen

8:41am Fri 21 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

1riversider wrote:
Let's face the truth - Venky's and the Three Stooges don't know how to support a bloody ladder, never mind a football manager - even if they cared, which I very much doubt. The whole bunch are utterly incompetent.

Venky's - idiots
Shabby - moron
Shaw - ask any PNE fan about him - clueless
Agnew - invisible

The best thing Henning Berg could do, is walk away now with a bit of dignity, and tell us supporters and the rest of football just what is being done to destroy Blackburn Rovers.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
We all know what he should do but let's face it, footballers aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but they're greedy money inspired wanna be's. He knew exactly what he was walking into(his comments before proved that) but the money on offer was far more than pundit work in the footballing backwater of Norway. Dangle a big enough carrot and the donkey will reach for it.
I don't understand the sympathy for him? Must be an awful lot of people happy to be taken for a mug while the club falls further. Anybody with any morals wouldn't have taken the job, but how many of the "its not his fault" brigade would jump at the chance of some trumped up managers title at work, though they knew they weren't qualified or have the right persona for it, just to get another 2 grand a year?
Get a grip the lot of you and face the facts.... until those clowns in India sell the club to decent owners with proven credentials , this once proud club will stumble from one disaster to the next and in the meantime a lot more people will stick their noses in the trough and suck what money or asset is stick left in the club.
The only saving grace if reports are true is that the walker trust still own the ground and Brockhall. If that goes, we can probably kiss good night to Blackburn Rovers as we know it
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Let's face the truth - Venky's and the Three Stooges don't know how to support a bloody ladder, never mind a football manager - even if they cared, which I very much doubt. The whole bunch are utterly incompetent. Venky's - idiots Shabby - moron Shaw - ask any PNE fan about him - clueless Agnew - invisible The best thing Henning Berg could do, is walk away now with a bit of dignity, and tell us supporters and the rest of football just what is being done to destroy Blackburn Rovers. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW[/p][/quote]We all know what he should do but let's face it, footballers aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but they're greedy money inspired wanna be's. He knew exactly what he was walking into(his comments before proved that) but the money on offer was far more than pundit work in the footballing backwater of Norway. Dangle a big enough carrot and the donkey will reach for it. I don't understand the sympathy for him? Must be an awful lot of people happy to be taken for a mug while the club falls further. Anybody with any morals wouldn't have taken the job, but how many of the "its not his fault" brigade would jump at the chance of some trumped up managers title at work, though they knew they weren't qualified or have the right persona for it, just to get another 2 grand a year? Get a grip the lot of you and face the facts.... until those clowns in India sell the club to decent owners with proven credentials , this once proud club will stumble from one disaster to the next and in the meantime a lot more people will stick their noses in the trough and suck what money or asset is stick left in the club. The only saving grace if reports are true is that the walker trust still own the ground and Brockhall. If that goes, we can probably kiss good night to Blackburn Rovers as we know it walshy2866

2:48pm Fri 21 Dec 12

ChrisDeBerg says...

dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
sonny wrote:
Henning Bergs Blue and white army.


Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.
why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!
David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs.

And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.
Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha! Class! :)

Nice retort to a retard!

Dangerous Dave on here with his annoying pessimism all the time... Go support another team like Burnleh! Would suit you to the ground Dave!

DANGEROUS DAVE OUT!

RTID
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sonny[/bold] wrote: Henning Bergs Blue and white army. Ignore the haters, there just depressive trolls who want to crap on everything and are still crying over Fat Sam being sacked, Singh & Agnew should be nowhere near a professional football club but stuff them, do your own thing and the real sensible fans will respect that.[/p][/quote]why dont you print 'YOUR' real name and address against your comments then Singh and Agnew can drop you a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]David S Green, 31 Dundee Walk, Preston , Lancs. And I've just got of the phone to Agnew, he said you're a knobhead.[/p][/quote]Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Haha! Class! :) Nice retort to a retard! Dangerous Dave on here with his annoying pessimism all the time... Go support another team like Burnleh! Would suit you to the ground Dave! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT! RTID ChrisDeBerg

2:55pm Fri 21 Dec 12

MxMave says...

How can you say Venkys have let Berg down? As soon as the window closes its up to Berg to do the job hes been assigned. Venkys have done nothing wrong since Kean left imo.

Like you said, the squad at the start of the season seemed so good there was no way we wouldnt get promotion. So were we wrong? Is the squad terrible? or is Berg a terrible manager and we were right?

From watching the matches its 100% clear to me that its not the players fault. The tactics, defending & attacking are SHOCKING. The substitutions Berg makes come in around 80mins when we are 1 or 2 goals down. Cardiff pressed us continually whilst we were 4-5 yards off our man when defending, thats not the players fault, thats Bergs fault, and even though it was obvious to the crowd what Cardiff were doing to be so dominant, Berg didn't change it, he stood there and did nothing as per normal.

To be frank, Berg was a shambolic appointment, the faster we get rid, the faster we arrest the league-slide.
How can you say Venkys have let Berg down? As soon as the window closes its up to Berg to do the job hes been assigned. Venkys have done nothing wrong since Kean left imo. Like you said, the squad at the start of the season seemed so good there was no way we wouldnt get promotion. So were we wrong? Is the squad terrible? or is Berg a terrible manager and we were right? From watching the matches its 100% clear to me that its not the players fault. The tactics, defending & attacking are SHOCKING. The substitutions Berg makes come in around 80mins when we are 1 or 2 goals down. Cardiff pressed us continually whilst we were 4-5 yards off our man when defending, thats not the players fault, thats Bergs fault, and even though it was obvious to the crowd what Cardiff were doing to be so dominant, Berg didn't change it, he stood there and did nothing as per normal. To be frank, Berg was a shambolic appointment, the faster we get rid, the faster we arrest the league-slide. MxMave

8:22pm Fri 21 Dec 12

mr puka says...

No good from Norway send Berg back to OSLO now.
No good from Norway send Berg back to OSLO now. mr puka

11:14pm Fri 21 Dec 12

stick to football says...

A Poison Chalice - the good days are in the past and will remain there unless and until the whole structure of the club is put on a proper footing
- sad but true
All fans want to see is a fully committed team running their socks off, harrying opponents and having a go at goal instead all we get is politics - it is soul destroying for everyone

In Venkys we trust or is there more chance of Santa Claus appearing at Ewood bearing gifts
A Poison Chalice - the good days are in the past and will remain there unless and until the whole structure of the club is put on a proper footing - sad but true All fans want to see is a fully committed team running their socks off, harrying opponents and having a go at goal instead all we get is politics - it is soul destroying for everyone In Venkys we trust or is there more chance of Santa Claus appearing at Ewood bearing gifts stick to football

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