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Berg insists Rovers have to do better

HENNING Berg insists his Blackburn Rovers side have to do much better after his first game at the helm ended in a 2-0 defeat at Crystal Palace.

Rovers' Norwegian boss saw his side slip to their first away defeat of the season as Glenn Murray scored in each half.

Berg said: "We did not defend well enough and we did not use the ball well enough when we were in possession.

"Crystal Palace are a good side but we are capable of much better, we know that.

"Crystal Palace deserved to win the game, no one could argue they didn't. We have to look forward now."

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6:20pm Sat 3 Nov 12

jogalot says...

Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning!
Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning! jogalot
  • Score: 28

6:22pm Sat 3 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

Henning - have to do better is a total understatement - more like have to do a 'great deal' better and get a decent coaching staff to drive improvements through!!!
Todays performance was very poor - even when we get three points its not convincing and very frustrating/poor for the fans to watch - neednt say more!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY
Henning - have to do better is a total understatement - more like have to do a 'great deal' better and get a decent coaching staff to drive improvements through!!! Todays performance was very poor - even when we get three points its not convincing and very frustrating/poor for the fans to watch - neednt say more!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY dangerous dave
  • Score: -12

6:23pm Sat 3 Nov 12

jogalot says...

Palace are the team in form, though, and wouldn't allow Rovers to play so it isn't all doom and gloom. Yet again though we've seen a Rovers team unable to react or adjust to the opposition's tactics. Not good. I have confidence though that Berg will sort it out.
Palace are the team in form, though, and wouldn't allow Rovers to play so it isn't all doom and gloom. Yet again though we've seen a Rovers team unable to react or adjust to the opposition's tactics. Not good. I have confidence though that Berg will sort it out. jogalot
  • Score: 28

6:24pm Sat 3 Nov 12

M.DANNY says...

Berg needs to sign two new strikers from the premiership on loans and two new midfieders from the premiership on loan and clear out some deadwoods Kean left us with.We need to try get out of this Championship league full of dingles and mash.Berg need our support he is 100% blue n white man.
Berg needs to sign two new strikers from the premiership on loans and two new midfieders from the premiership on loan and clear out some deadwoods Kean left us with.We need to try get out of this Championship league full of dingles and mash.Berg need our support he is 100% blue n white man. M.DANNY
  • Score: 16

6:26pm Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by.
Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by. smellthecoffee
  • Score: -45

6:27pm Sat 3 Nov 12

stick to football says...

Berg will know exaclty what he needs - trust him

Whilst defeat is disappointing - he will have learnt more about the team today than if they had stumbled across the line with a win
Berg will know exaclty what he needs - trust him Whilst defeat is disappointing - he will have learnt more about the team today than if they had stumbled across the line with a win stick to football
  • Score: 31

6:28pm Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

M.DANNY wrote:
Berg needs to sign two new strikers from the premiership on loans and two new midfieders from the premiership on loan and clear out some deadwoods Kean left us with.We need to try get out of this Championship league full of dingles and mash.Berg need our support he is 100% blue n white man.
Oh yeah...and who will get all that lovely commission for these signings??
[quote][p][bold]M.DANNY[/bold] wrote: Berg needs to sign two new strikers from the premiership on loans and two new midfieders from the premiership on loan and clear out some deadwoods Kean left us with.We need to try get out of this Championship league full of dingles and mash.Berg need our support he is 100% blue n white man.[/p][/quote]Oh yeah...and who will get all that lovely commission for these signings?? smellthecoffee
  • Score: -13

6:31pm Sat 3 Nov 12

bluerob says...

Refreshing to hear our manager give an honest assessment after a game, I dont think Henning will accept the dross that Kean served up .
Refreshing to hear our manager give an honest assessment after a game, I dont think Henning will accept the dross that Kean served up . bluerob
  • Score: 35

6:35pm Sat 3 Nov 12

noddymcleod says...

Palace are the form team in the Division and Berg has had a couple of days with a weak squad. Some of you dreamers on here have repeated the Kean line that we had a Premiership squad - not true. Too may journeymen, too many has-beens and a lot of never will be's.
Berg job wasn't helped by silly "honest" statements by the clueless management that Berg wasn't the first choice - everyone knows that, but what's the point of saying it ? Ever heard of confidence building, solidarity, loyalty ?
... and Shabby saying Promotion or else doesn't help a manager starting a three years contract.
There's a deep malaise at Rovers which has obviously got to the players, if Berg turns this round and keeps in with a shout for the playoffs, it will be a miracle.
Palace are the form team in the Division and Berg has had a couple of days with a weak squad. Some of you dreamers on here have repeated the Kean line that we had a Premiership squad - not true. Too may journeymen, too many has-beens and a lot of never will be's. Berg job wasn't helped by silly "honest" statements by the clueless management that Berg wasn't the first choice - everyone knows that, but what's the point of saying it ? Ever heard of confidence building, solidarity, loyalty ? ... and Shabby saying Promotion or else doesn't help a manager starting a three years contract. There's a deep malaise at Rovers which has obviously got to the players, if Berg turns this round and keeps in with a shout for the playoffs, it will be a miracle. noddymcleod
  • Score: 26

6:38pm Sat 3 Nov 12

eddie the eagle says...

Well Henning you have now seen how tough it's going to be,the squad is the best Steve Kean says he ever had,the first lesson you have learned today is how big a liar he was.
Your job tough has it is,is to keep us in touch until we can bring players in in January.Good luck I hope you succeed.
Well Henning you have now seen how tough it's going to be,the squad is the best Steve Kean says he ever had,the first lesson you have learned today is how big a liar he was. Your job tough has it is,is to keep us in touch until we can bring players in in January.Good luck I hope you succeed. eddie the eagle
  • Score: 20

6:38pm Sat 3 Nov 12

eddie the eagle says...

Well Henning you have now seen how tough it's going to be,the squad is the best Steve Kean says he ever had,the first lesson you have learned today is how big a liar he was.
Your job tough has it is,is to keep us in touch until we can bring players in in January.Good luck I hope you succeed.
Well Henning you have now seen how tough it's going to be,the squad is the best Steve Kean says he ever had,the first lesson you have learned today is how big a liar he was. Your job tough has it is,is to keep us in touch until we can bring players in in January.Good luck I hope you succeed. eddie the eagle
  • Score: 11

6:43pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

He's catching on fast. He may make a manager yet.
He's catching on fast. He may make a manager yet. Stone Island:
  • Score: -10

6:56pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

trueblue72 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
stick to football wrote:
Berg will know exaclty what he needs - trust him Whilst defeat is disappointing - he will have learnt more about the team today than if they had stumbled across the line with a win
...you really are taking the p1ss now aren't you....so we're better off for losing now are we??? T0sser!
I know what you are trying to say and agree with HB will of learnt a lot today.
It's sad and scary when players cannot get up for a game of football, especially a managers first game in charge.
It shows some of them do not give a stuff about the club or have any pride in the shirt on their back.
HB has a lot of hard work to do, getting rid of those who who do not give a **** and trying to get players in who will fight for the cause.

Even the purists and Berg doubters must admit that any manager would struggle with this lot. You can fluke a few results (which we have so far this season) but over time the true quality of the side would show through and we'd finish where we deserved.

If SS hadn't of opened his daft egotistical mouth then we'd all of accepted that promotion this season was not the be all and end all but a season in which we could truly mount a challenge next season.

Now, who knows what will happen after he stated promotion is the minimum expected.

He's the tosser.
Shabby Minge IS a tosser, and so is Kean. Between them, they have spent millions, and tied over the hill players to lucrative long term contracts. Murphy and Gomes, to name but two. If we don't go up this season, which is looking unlikely, then we will be in a VERY precarious financial position, which we may NEVER recover.
[quote][p][bold]trueblue72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: Berg will know exaclty what he needs - trust him Whilst defeat is disappointing - he will have learnt more about the team today than if they had stumbled across the line with a win[/p][/quote]...you really are taking the p1ss now aren't you....so we're better off for losing now are we??? T0sser![/p][/quote]I know what you are trying to say and agree with HB will of learnt a lot today. It's sad and scary when players cannot get up for a game of football, especially a managers first game in charge. It shows some of them do not give a stuff about the club or have any pride in the shirt on their back. HB has a lot of hard work to do, getting rid of those who who do not give a **** and trying to get players in who will fight for the cause. Even the purists and Berg doubters must admit that any manager would struggle with this lot. You can fluke a few results (which we have so far this season) but over time the true quality of the side would show through and we'd finish where we deserved. If SS hadn't of opened his daft egotistical mouth then we'd all of accepted that promotion this season was not the be all and end all but a season in which we could truly mount a challenge next season. Now, who knows what will happen after he stated promotion is the minimum expected. He's the tosser.[/p][/quote]Shabby Minge IS a tosser, and so is Kean. Between them, they have spent millions, and tied over the hill players to lucrative long term contracts. Murphy and Gomes, to name but two. If we don't go up this season, which is looking unlikely, then we will be in a VERY precarious financial position, which we may NEVER recover. Stone Island:
  • Score: 15

7:01pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Ewood say that! says...

dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get?
dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get? Ewood say that!
  • Score: 6

7:01pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Dan11 says...

Its refreshing to hear the manager make an honest assessment after a poor performance. Its so refreshing after having had to listen to Donut Kean spout the most deluded drivel for so long.
Its refreshing to hear the manager make an honest assessment after a poor performance. Its so refreshing after having had to listen to Donut Kean spout the most deluded drivel for so long. Dan11
  • Score: 13

7:22pm Sat 3 Nov 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Put the youth team in if this lot dont shape up, at least you will get a lot of runners and tryers for the manager. SG says apart from 2 the rest should be ashamed of them selves. What a rediculous situation for the new manager. Need to bring striker and midfielder on loan immediately if not a winger as well. Also a fitness fanatic coach who will kick arse..
Put the youth team in if this lot dont shape up, at least you will get a lot of runners and tryers for the manager. SG says apart from 2 the rest should be ashamed of them selves. What a rediculous situation for the new manager. Need to bring striker and midfielder on loan immediately if not a winger as well. Also a fitness fanatic coach who will kick arse.. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 12

7:35pm Sat 3 Nov 12

goldfinger59 says...

We were up against one of the better sides today, and it certainly showed, but I wouldn't write of our chances just yet. About January will be a better time to judge, and I think we will have a better idea of what is required in this league by then, so hopefully we will be in a better position by then, in playing terms and in the table.
We were up against one of the better sides today, and it certainly showed, but I wouldn't write of our chances just yet. About January will be a better time to judge, and I think we will have a better idea of what is required in this league by then, so hopefully we will be in a better position by then, in playing terms and in the table. goldfinger59
  • Score: -2

7:44pm Sat 3 Nov 12

gleechy says...

Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from? gleechy
  • Score: 5

8:03pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

gleechy wrote:
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
I think that's why managers who had applied for the job, and been interviewed, ruled themselves out when they realised the 'terms and conditions', of the contract on offer
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?[/p][/quote]I think that's why managers who had applied for the job, and been interviewed, ruled themselves out when they realised the 'terms and conditions', of the contract on offer Stone Island:
  • Score: 6

8:08pm Sat 3 Nov 12

jackmetickler says...

good luck Henning cos your gonna need it.
Cant see why we gambled on an inexperienced manager at this or any level really when there were so many better options... but
The Venkys know best eh
Its their money but its our club and I for one will give you a month to sort this shower out.... a month... cos we know who we got then...
and you had better no lose to those inbreds or you will begin to know what SK felt like.

One month
good luck Henning cos your gonna need it. Cant see why we gambled on an inexperienced manager at this or any level really when there were so many better options... but The Venkys know best eh Its their money but its our club and I for one will give you a month to sort this shower out.... a month... cos we know who we got then... and you had better no lose to those inbreds or you will begin to know what SK felt like. One month jackmetickler
  • Score: -1

8:30pm Sat 3 Nov 12

juanbbien says...

What a task Henning has got trying too sort out this rag bag collection we have acquired,whoever sanctioned the signing of these has beens are responsible totally for our present predicament and saying that the manager as to achieve promotion with not one of his own choice yet present is bloody absurd he is more or less setting him up for the role of a scapegoat through the incompetence of the past two and a half years.
What a task Henning has got trying too sort out this rag bag collection we have acquired,whoever sanctioned the signing of these has beens are responsible totally for our present predicament and saying that the manager as to achieve promotion with not one of his own choice yet present is bloody absurd he is more or less setting him up for the role of a scapegoat through the incompetence of the past two and a half years. juanbbien
  • Score: 10

8:31pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
No sh+t Sherlock.

Shocking performance.

I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments.
I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now.
I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.
I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.
I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.[/p][/quote]I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 4

8:33pm Sat 3 Nov 12

happiness says...

Deadwoodchamps wrote:
The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)
34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo
n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo
ooooooooo!!!!!!!

Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.
[quote][p][bold]Deadwoodchamps[/bold] wrote: The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)[/p][/quote]34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo ooooooooo!!!!!!! Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though. happiness
  • Score: 0

8:39pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

happiness wrote:
Deadwoodchamps wrote:
The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)
34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo

n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo

ooooooooo!!!!!!!

Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.
Happiness, Givet was out injured and so was Lowe. He dropped Orr, no complaints there, but some changes were enforced.
[quote][p][bold]happiness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deadwoodchamps[/bold] wrote: The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)[/p][/quote]34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo ooooooooo!!!!!!! Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.[/p][/quote]Happiness, Givet was out injured and so was Lowe. He dropped Orr, no complaints there, but some changes were enforced. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

8:42pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Deadwoodchamps says...

happiness wrote:
Deadwoodchamps wrote:
The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)
34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo

n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo

ooooooooo!!!!!!!

Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.
Touched a nerve there UNhappiness.........
.. Whooooooooo hooooooooooo ;-)
[quote][p][bold]happiness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deadwoodchamps[/bold] wrote: The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)[/p][/quote]34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo ooooooooo!!!!!!! Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.[/p][/quote]Touched a nerve there UNhappiness......... .. Whooooooooo hooooooooooo ;-) Deadwoodchamps
  • Score: -6

8:48pm Sat 3 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
stick to football wrote:
Berg will know exaclty what he needs - trust him Whilst defeat is disappointing - he will have learnt more about the team today than if they had stumbled across the line with a win
...you really are taking the p1ss now aren't you....so we're better off for losing now are we??? T0sser!
This 'pleasant individual' should not be responded to as he is worthless.
Please don't take the bait and he just may eventually disappear.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: Berg will know exaclty what he needs - trust him Whilst defeat is disappointing - he will have learnt more about the team today than if they had stumbled across the line with a win[/p][/quote]...you really are taking the p1ss now aren't you....so we're better off for losing now are we??? T0sser![/p][/quote]This 'pleasant individual' should not be responded to as he is worthless. Please don't take the bait and he just may eventually disappear. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 3

8:54pm Sat 3 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

noddymcleod wrote:
Palace are the form team in the Division and Berg has had a couple of days with a weak squad. Some of you dreamers on here have repeated the Kean line that we had a Premiership squad - not true. Too may journeymen, too many has-beens and a lot of never will be's.
Berg job wasn't helped by silly "honest" statements by the clueless management that Berg wasn't the first choice - everyone knows that, but what's the point of saying it ? Ever heard of confidence building, solidarity, loyalty ?
... and Shabby saying Promotion or else doesn't help a manager starting a three years contract.
There's a deep malaise at Rovers which has obviously got to the players, if Berg turns this round and keeps in with a shout for the playoffs, it will be a miracle.
Noddy, both yourself and myself have the same opinions of the situ. at BRFC.
However, with a decent guy on board, we can see this is the best we can expect at this moment in time, and people should not expect miracles.
It will take time and patience, and very pleasingly on here it appears that many ae seeing it the same and not jumping on any bandwagon that the trolls and the less than reasonable posters are trying to churn up.
Its the time to fully support the man in charge and lets see where it takes us.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Palace are the form team in the Division and Berg has had a couple of days with a weak squad. Some of you dreamers on here have repeated the Kean line that we had a Premiership squad - not true. Too may journeymen, too many has-beens and a lot of never will be's. Berg job wasn't helped by silly "honest" statements by the clueless management that Berg wasn't the first choice - everyone knows that, but what's the point of saying it ? Ever heard of confidence building, solidarity, loyalty ? ... and Shabby saying Promotion or else doesn't help a manager starting a three years contract. There's a deep malaise at Rovers which has obviously got to the players, if Berg turns this round and keeps in with a shout for the playoffs, it will be a miracle.[/p][/quote]Noddy, both yourself and myself have the same opinions of the situ. at BRFC. However, with a decent guy on board, we can see this is the best we can expect at this moment in time, and people should not expect miracles. It will take time and patience, and very pleasingly on here it appears that many ae seeing it the same and not jumping on any bandwagon that the trolls and the less than reasonable posters are trying to churn up. Its the time to fully support the man in charge and lets see where it takes us. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 5

9:00pm Sat 3 Nov 12

happiness says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
happiness wrote:
Deadwoodchamps wrote:
The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)
34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo


n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo


ooooooooo!!!!!!!

Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.
Happiness, Givet was out injured and so was Lowe. He dropped Orr, no complaints there, but some changes were enforced.
Oops!! Didn't realise Givet was also injured as well as Lowe which I knew about. 2 unforced changes it is then. Didn't think Orr did too bad against Watford though. We do need a settled side though. I still think the lukewarm reaction to Henning's appointment will turn into a really good welcome at the Birmingham game. Helped us win the championship. Helped us get promoted. Helped us win the League cup, Imagine if he got us promoted as manager too?
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]happiness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deadwoodchamps[/bold] wrote: The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)[/p][/quote]34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo ooooooooo!!!!!!! Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.[/p][/quote]Happiness, Givet was out injured and so was Lowe. He dropped Orr, no complaints there, but some changes were enforced.[/p][/quote]Oops!! Didn't realise Givet was also injured as well as Lowe which I knew about. 2 unforced changes it is then. Didn't think Orr did too bad against Watford though. We do need a settled side though. I still think the lukewarm reaction to Henning's appointment will turn into a really good welcome at the Birmingham game. Helped us win the championship. Helped us get promoted. Helped us win the League cup, Imagine if he got us promoted as manager too? happiness
  • Score: 6

9:02pm Sat 3 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

gleechy wrote:
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
A potentialy up and coming manager?

I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes.

Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly?
I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?[/p][/quote]A potentialy up and coming manager? I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes. Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly? I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 0

9:05pm Sat 3 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

Stone Island: wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
No sh+t Sherlock.

Shocking performance.

I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
I think he's implying that the money they've spent has been generated by outgoing transfers. And he has a point, to be fair.
Its called balancing the books. Not welcome to us supporters, but there it is.
In the next couple of years ALL clubs will have to do likewise.
This is not such a bad thing as it will attend some way into the gross imbalance between the 'haves' and 'have not' clubs.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]I think he's implying that the money they've spent has been generated by outgoing transfers. And he has a point, to be fair.[/p][/quote]Its called balancing the books. Not welcome to us supporters, but there it is. In the next couple of years ALL clubs will have to do likewise. This is not such a bad thing as it will attend some way into the gross imbalance between the 'haves' and 'have not' clubs. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 5

9:07pm Sat 3 Nov 12

srvp28 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.
I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.
I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere.
I don't know all the ins-and-outs regarding figures so I don't know what's been used for what exactly. That said, we've still got running costs and excessive wages to pay so not every penny we get can be allocated to our transfer kitty. I know they said they'd spend £5M per window but they also said we'd be challenging for a Champions League spot. They were mislead something rotten and therefore have made numerous mistakes. Unfortunately they're too proud to admit they've made a huge error getting involved with something they know absolutely nothing about so, as a result, won't be selling up anytime soon.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.[/p][/quote]I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I don't know all the ins-and-outs regarding figures so I don't know what's been used for what exactly. That said, we've still got running costs and excessive wages to pay so not every penny we get can be allocated to our transfer kitty. I know they said they'd spend £5M per window but they also said we'd be challenging for a Champions League spot. They were mislead something rotten and therefore have made numerous mistakes. Unfortunately they're too proud to admit they've made a huge error getting involved with something they know absolutely nothing about so, as a result, won't be selling up anytime soon. srvp28
  • Score: 5

9:22pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.
I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.
I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere.
I don't know all the ins-and-outs regarding figures so I don't know what's been used for what exactly. That said, we've still got running costs and excessive wages to pay so not every penny we get can be allocated to our transfer kitty. I know they said they'd spend £5M per window but they also said we'd be challenging for a Champions League spot. They were mislead something rotten and therefore have made numerous mistakes. Unfortunately they're too proud to admit they've made a huge error getting involved with something they know absolutely nothing about so, as a result, won't be selling up anytime soon.
Yes, I agree they seem to have bitten off more than they can chew and this football business is costing a lot more than they imagined.
My original point though was the fact that they don't seem to have put in any of their "own" money like owners of other clubs do.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.[/p][/quote]I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I don't know all the ins-and-outs regarding figures so I don't know what's been used for what exactly. That said, we've still got running costs and excessive wages to pay so not every penny we get can be allocated to our transfer kitty. I know they said they'd spend £5M per window but they also said we'd be challenging for a Champions League spot. They were mislead something rotten and therefore have made numerous mistakes. Unfortunately they're too proud to admit they've made a huge error getting involved with something they know absolutely nothing about so, as a result, won't be selling up anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Yes, I agree they seem to have bitten off more than they can chew and this football business is costing a lot more than they imagined. My original point though was the fact that they don't seem to have put in any of their "own" money like owners of other clubs do. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

9:39pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Nurseman says...

And so it continues!
Black has had two wins with a very sound defence. Today we had an ineffective defence and no goals.
Sorry to be negative guys, but that was very poor today, not exactly hitting the ground running.
Lets see where we are after a few games, hopefully not waiting for his first win
And so it continues! Black has had two wins with a very sound defence. Today we had an ineffective defence and no goals. Sorry to be negative guys, but that was very poor today, not exactly hitting the ground running. Lets see where we are after a few games, hopefully not waiting for his first win Nurseman
  • Score: 6

9:47pm Sat 3 Nov 12

French Rover says...

happiness wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
happiness wrote:
Deadwoodchamps wrote:
The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)
34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo



n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo



ooooooooo!!!!!!!

Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.
Happiness, Givet was out injured and so was Lowe. He dropped Orr, no complaints there, but some changes were enforced.
Oops!! Didn't realise Givet was also injured as well as Lowe which I knew about. 2 unforced changes it is then. Didn't think Orr did too bad against Watford though. We do need a settled side though. I still think the lukewarm reaction to Henning's appointment will turn into a really good welcome at the Birmingham game. Helped us win the championship. Helped us get promoted. Helped us win the League cup, Imagine if he got us promoted as manager too?
we were absolutely woeful today. Lucky only to lose two-nil....could have been four and we would have had no cause for complaint. Murphy in particular should never be allowed to wear a Rovers shirt again and should be stripped of the captaincy immediately. He was slow, was caught in possession almost every time he had the ball, and shied out of every 50/50 tackle. Hanley was a liability and played terrible and both Olssons were way off the pace and lacked any semblance of fight or determination. I don't think that Rhodes had a single pass/ball to run on to all match. KR was rubbish. The only players that started the game that showed anything near what we needed were Peds. Henley and Dann and Robbo. Rochina, Formica and Simon all played very well when they came on and all should start the next game.

This is one game we have to write off - this was not Berg's team. I think that it will be obvious what changes he needs to make for the midweek game against HTFC.

Was looking forward to my day at the Palace - but the performance ruined the day. Unbelievably still sixth tonight - so HB has still got a good base to build from. Got to improve.
[quote][p][bold]happiness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]happiness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deadwoodchamps[/bold] wrote: The berg begins to sink just like the proverbial sack of sh1te!! Strange really when you think that turds actually float............... whooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo MK Dons 2 barstewards 1 ;-)[/p][/quote]34 years of Burnley fans showing more interest in Rovers fortunes than their own club....and counting!! Absolutely pathetic!.....Swindo n 3 Inferiority complex sufferers 1...WoooooooooooooHo ooooooooo!!!!!!! Henning. What the hell are you doing? 7 points from 3 games and 2 clean sheets to the bargain. 3 unforced changes today....WHY??? 'We need to defend better'...We had started to show signs of having a settled and regular back 4. If it isn't broke etc....Very dissappointed. Still 100% behind you though.[/p][/quote]Happiness, Givet was out injured and so was Lowe. He dropped Orr, no complaints there, but some changes were enforced.[/p][/quote]Oops!! Didn't realise Givet was also injured as well as Lowe which I knew about. 2 unforced changes it is then. Didn't think Orr did too bad against Watford though. We do need a settled side though. I still think the lukewarm reaction to Henning's appointment will turn into a really good welcome at the Birmingham game. Helped us win the championship. Helped us get promoted. Helped us win the League cup, Imagine if he got us promoted as manager too?[/p][/quote]we were absolutely woeful today. Lucky only to lose two-nil....could have been four and we would have had no cause for complaint. Murphy in particular should never be allowed to wear a Rovers shirt again and should be stripped of the captaincy immediately. He was slow, was caught in possession almost every time he had the ball, and shied out of every 50/50 tackle. Hanley was a liability and played terrible and both Olssons were way off the pace and lacked any semblance of fight or determination. I don't think that Rhodes had a single pass/ball to run on to all match. KR was rubbish. The only players that started the game that showed anything near what we needed were Peds. Henley and Dann and Robbo. Rochina, Formica and Simon all played very well when they came on and all should start the next game. This is one game we have to write off - this was not Berg's team. I think that it will be obvious what changes he needs to make for the midweek game against HTFC. Was looking forward to my day at the Palace - but the performance ruined the day. Unbelievably still sixth tonight - so HB has still got a good base to build from. Got to improve. French Rover
  • Score: 10

9:52pm Sat 3 Nov 12

gleechy says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
A potentialy up and coming manager?

I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes.

Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly?
I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.
Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see?

The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten?

Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?[/p][/quote]A potentialy up and coming manager? I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes. Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly? I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.[/p][/quote]Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see? The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten? Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one. gleechy
  • Score: -1

9:57pm Sat 3 Nov 12

forever_rovers says...

Ignoring the dingle / trolls seems to be working. Less crap in this chain than normal.

Rovers have a real manager again. It is only a few weeks back we had the Clown shaming us match after match 'yes we lost but the big positive is blah blah'.

Berg is class. Give him time; he will shine.
Ignoring the dingle / trolls seems to be working. Less crap in this chain than normal. Rovers have a real manager again. It is only a few weeks back we had the Clown shaming us match after match 'yes we lost but the big positive is blah blah'. Berg is class. Give him time; he will shine. forever_rovers
  • Score: 5

10:02pm Sat 3 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

gleechy wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
A potentialy up and coming manager?

I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes.

Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly?
I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.
Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see?

The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten?

Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.
Oh I see, I get it.
Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?[/p][/quote]A potentialy up and coming manager? I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes. Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly? I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.[/p][/quote]Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see? The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten? Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.[/p][/quote]Oh I see, I get it. Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Sat 3 Nov 12

gleechy says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
A potentialy up and coming manager?

I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes.

Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly?
I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.
Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see?

The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten?

Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.
Oh I see, I get it.
Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual.
Look I'm sorry for being rude, but I don't appreciate being called a Palace fan, just because I don't follow your line of thought. So I attacked you with sarcasm.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?[/p][/quote]A potentialy up and coming manager? I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes. Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly? I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.[/p][/quote]Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see? The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten? Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.[/p][/quote]Oh I see, I get it. Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual.[/p][/quote]Look I'm sorry for being rude, but I don't appreciate being called a Palace fan, just because I don't follow your line of thought. So I attacked you with sarcasm. gleechy
  • Score: 1

10:17pm Sat 3 Nov 12

baldie says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by.
Bitter aren't we Steve?Time to move on.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by.[/p][/quote]Bitter aren't we Steve?Time to move on. baldie
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Long time Rover says...

I stated on here a couple of days ago that the team was not well balanced for championship football and that promotion this season was doubtful at best, HB will need time.
Kean and the people responsible for recent signings, plus the back up staff responsible for fitness and motivation have a lot to answer for and this season may be more about change and settling than play offs and exitment.
We and HB himself will find out an awful lot about his potential as a manager in the next 6 months, good luck Henning.
I stated on here a couple of days ago that the team was not well balanced for championship football and that promotion this season was doubtful at best, HB will need time. Kean and the people responsible for recent signings, plus the back up staff responsible for fitness and motivation have a lot to answer for and this season may be more about change and settling than play offs and exitment. We and HB himself will find out an awful lot about his potential as a manager in the next 6 months, good luck Henning. Long time Rover
  • Score: 1

10:36pm Sat 3 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

gleechy wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
A potentialy up and coming manager?

I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes.

Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly?
I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.
Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see?

The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten?

Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.
Oh I see, I get it.
Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual.
Look I'm sorry for being rude, but I don't appreciate being called a Palace fan, just because I don't follow your line of thought. So I attacked you with sarcasm.
You totally misinterpreted my wording in that I was saying, put yourself in a Palace supporters shoes and look on from the other side (as there are generally two sides to every story and debate).
Would you really have expected to lose ?
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?[/p][/quote]A potentialy up and coming manager? I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes. Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly? I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.[/p][/quote]Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see? The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten? Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.[/p][/quote]Oh I see, I get it. Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual.[/p][/quote]Look I'm sorry for being rude, but I don't appreciate being called a Palace fan, just because I don't follow your line of thought. So I attacked you with sarcasm.[/p][/quote]You totally misinterpreted my wording in that I was saying, put yourself in a Palace supporters shoes and look on from the other side (as there are generally two sides to every story and debate). Would you really have expected to lose ? bring back the good old days
  • Score: 1

10:43pm Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Ewood say that! wrote:
dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get?
We get someone accustomed to losing.
.
But what happens when the club loses?? They need to go out and spend money on more players!! and which agency gets the money??? What an impressive operation it all makes. Saddle the club with huge amounts of debt whilst seemingly tapping off money into another company. The fact is....this needs urgent investigation by the authorities. Otherwise in 3 years time the club will be in a hell of a state and all assets will have been stripped off seemingly "legitimately" elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Ewood say that![/bold] wrote: dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get?[/p][/quote]We get someone accustomed to losing. . But what happens when the club loses?? They need to go out and spend money on more players!! and which agency gets the money??? What an impressive operation it all makes. Saddle the club with huge amounts of debt whilst seemingly tapping off money into another company. The fact is....this needs urgent investigation by the authorities. Otherwise in 3 years time the club will be in a hell of a state and all assets will have been stripped off seemingly "legitimately" elsewhere. smellthecoffee
  • Score: -3

10:47pm Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

baldie wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote: Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by.
Bitter aren't we Steve?Time to move on.
Nice one!!
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by.[/p][/quote]Bitter aren't we Steve?Time to move on.[/p][/quote]Nice one!! smellthecoffee
  • Score: 0

10:51pm Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Don't worry...money is being spent, but it is all in the background in agent's fees!! English football seems riddled with corruption. Let's hope all involved in corruption will be investigated.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Don't worry...money is being spent, but it is all in the background in agent's fees!! English football seems riddled with corruption. Let's hope all involved in corruption will be investigated. smellthecoffee
  • Score: 3

11:01pm Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.
I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.
I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere.
I don't know all the ins-and-outs regarding figures so I don't know what's been used for what exactly. That said, we've still got running costs and excessive wages to pay so not every penny we get can be allocated to our transfer kitty. I know they said they'd spend £5M per window but they also said we'd be challenging for a Champions League spot. They were mislead something rotten and therefore have made numerous mistakes. Unfortunately they're too proud to admit they've made a huge error getting involved with something they know absolutely nothing about so, as a result, won't be selling up anytime soon.
Venky's just do what they're told. They won't sell up because BIG money is being made by others elsewhere. Berg will now be in place until the exit strategy reaches it's natural conclusion - even if he loses every single game. Why else would a failed manager and TV pundit be offered such a contract??
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.[/p][/quote]I don't doubt what you're saying svrp but didn't the fee received for Samba go towards paying off the debts. Remember, as we sold Samba after the transfer window closed no replacement could be brought in so the money went elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I don't know all the ins-and-outs regarding figures so I don't know what's been used for what exactly. That said, we've still got running costs and excessive wages to pay so not every penny we get can be allocated to our transfer kitty. I know they said they'd spend £5M per window but they also said we'd be challenging for a Champions League spot. They were mislead something rotten and therefore have made numerous mistakes. Unfortunately they're too proud to admit they've made a huge error getting involved with something they know absolutely nothing about so, as a result, won't be selling up anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Venky's just do what they're told. They won't sell up because BIG money is being made by others elsewhere. Berg will now be in place until the exit strategy reaches it's natural conclusion - even if he loses every single game. Why else would a failed manager and TV pundit be offered such a contract?? smellthecoffee
  • Score: 1

11:06pm Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

forever_rovers wrote:
Ignoring the dingle / trolls seems to be working. Less crap in this chain than normal. Rovers have a real manager again. It is only a few weeks back we had the Clown shaming us match after match 'yes we lost but the big positive is blah blah'. Berg is class. Give him time; he will shine.
That's now 1 point in his last 9 games...class manager!!
[quote][p][bold]forever_rovers[/bold] wrote: Ignoring the dingle / trolls seems to be working. Less crap in this chain than normal. Rovers have a real manager again. It is only a few weeks back we had the Clown shaming us match after match 'yes we lost but the big positive is blah blah'. Berg is class. Give him time; he will shine.[/p][/quote]That's now 1 point in his last 9 games...class manager!! smellthecoffee
  • Score: 0

11:35pm Sat 3 Nov 12

passingfootball says...

All the teams around us have brought managers that have actually managed in the championship, they know it inside out and know how to manage it throughtout the long drawn out 46 games, berg doesn't have that luxury, blackburn didn't need to do is have a manager that has to learn on the job, especially when rovers cannot afford another season in this division, they are not a nursery for young managers who do their mistakes here before moving on to bigger clubs. The players may have been just as underwhelmed as some of the fans that after such a long wait and that disappointment may have affected them from focussing on the game properly.
All the teams around us have brought managers that have actually managed in the championship, they know it inside out and know how to manage it throughtout the long drawn out 46 games, berg doesn't have that luxury, blackburn didn't need to do is have a manager that has to learn on the job, especially when rovers cannot afford another season in this division, they are not a nursery for young managers who do their mistakes here before moving on to bigger clubs. The players may have been just as underwhelmed as some of the fans that after such a long wait and that disappointment may have affected them from focussing on the game properly. passingfootball
  • Score: 1

11:36pm Sat 3 Nov 12

FannyTickler says...

Keep up the good work special agent Berg. Excellent start.
Keep up the good work special agent Berg. Excellent start. FannyTickler
  • Score: -4

11:45pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Final word says...

Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted.

Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place.

I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive.

Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.
Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward. Final word
  • Score: 8

12:13am Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Final word wrote:
Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.
Is that an official Kentaro press release??
[quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.[/p][/quote]Is that an official Kentaro press release?? smellthecoffee
  • Score: -2

2:48am Sun 4 Nov 12

kenbro says...

Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience.
As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest... kenbro
  • Score: 8

2:54am Sun 4 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

proud burnley lad wrote:
passingfootball wrote:
All the teams around us have brought managers that have actually managed in the championship, they know it inside out and know how to manage it throughtout the long drawn out 46 games, berg doesn't have that luxury, blackburn didn't need to do is have a manager that has to learn on the job, especially when rovers cannot afford another season in this division, they are not a nursery for young managers who do their mistakes here before moving on to bigger clubs. The players may have been just as underwhelmed as some of the fans that after such a long wait and that disappointment may have affected them from focussing on the game properly.
why do you speak like you have to be in the PL? you dont deserve to be there your not even playing well in "chumpionship" as you use to call it never mind owt else dont look too far ahead get used to it YOU ARE NOT GETTING PROMOTED!!!! how isit waiting for football league show to start after MOTD btw? lol the venky BERGers are on me b***ards
Can we have that again in English? you fcuking simpleton!
[quote][p][bold]proud burnley lad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: All the teams around us have brought managers that have actually managed in the championship, they know it inside out and know how to manage it throughtout the long drawn out 46 games, berg doesn't have that luxury, blackburn didn't need to do is have a manager that has to learn on the job, especially when rovers cannot afford another season in this division, they are not a nursery for young managers who do their mistakes here before moving on to bigger clubs. The players may have been just as underwhelmed as some of the fans that after such a long wait and that disappointment may have affected them from focussing on the game properly.[/p][/quote]why do you speak like you have to be in the PL? you dont deserve to be there your not even playing well in "chumpionship" as you use to call it never mind owt else dont look too far ahead get used to it YOU ARE NOT GETTING PROMOTED!!!! how isit waiting for football league show to start after MOTD btw? lol the venky BERGers are on me b***ards[/p][/quote]Can we have that again in English? you fcuking simpleton! Stone Island:
  • Score: 4

3:35am Sun 4 Nov 12

ronnie clayton says...

I`m sure Shebby Singh will sort it out ,he`s a man of action , he sacked Kean (no he never) he got in the manager we all wanted (no he never) he sacked Keans drinking buddy Hendry (no he never) .
Well he has a vast football knowledge played against Shrewsbury (man of the match he was voted on by the Singh family) has played against Bayern Munich/Aston Villa when on tour in Malaysia (forgot to add it was their youth teams)
Well he `s good tactically ,yes wants to play Gerrard at right back because he can`t pass, play Giggs alongside Ferdinand as centre half , oh I forgot Shebby`s MOST famous quote (WHAT DOES MESSI DO APART FROM SCORE GOALS?) a real football thinker !

It truly is the nutters have taken over the asylum !!!
I`m sure Shebby Singh will sort it out ,he`s a man of action , he sacked Kean (no he never) he got in the manager we all wanted (no he never) he sacked Keans drinking buddy Hendry (no he never) . Well he has a vast football knowledge played against Shrewsbury (man of the match he was voted on by the Singh family) has played against Bayern Munich/Aston Villa when on tour in Malaysia (forgot to add it was their youth teams) Well he `s good tactically ,yes wants to play Gerrard at right back because he can`t pass, play Giggs alongside Ferdinand as centre half , oh I forgot Shebby`s MOST famous quote (WHAT DOES MESSI DO APART FROM SCORE GOALS?) a real football thinker ! It truly is the nutters have taken over the asylum !!! ronnie clayton
  • Score: 11

3:57am Sun 4 Nov 12

Roverthere says...

Time will tell!
Time will tell! Roverthere
  • Score: 2

5:43am Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

kenbro wrote:
Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
[quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony. smellthecoffee
  • Score: -2

7:40am Sun 4 Nov 12

Iiii1111 says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote:
Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously

youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves Iiii1111
  • Score: 7

8:18am Sun 4 Nov 12

MatthewCA says...

LOT to fix when we loose the game, When we win no one comment on !!

I feel lot to fix on midfield and both wing players. More pace need and good cross to the box where Rhodes head can act quicker.
LOT to fix when we loose the game, When we win no one comment on !! I feel lot to fix on midfield and both wing players. More pace need and good cross to the box where Rhodes head can act quicker. MatthewCA
  • Score: 1

9:00am Sun 4 Nov 12

Captain Dreckley says...

Need to do better, and so say all of us. Now Berg knows what he has to work with and identifies poor defending as a massive problem. Well that is what we have all said throughout the Kean era but at last we have a manager who acknowledges this in public, something SK would never do. Our defensive unit is weak, inexperienced in key positions and is tactically incompetent due to an awful coach. Berg needs time with his players this week and now we have a manager in place all the unsettling speculation is over and we will see things settle down. Berg needs to assess then clear out all the backroom deadwood accumulated by Kean and bring in his own people. Tony Parkes would be a fantastic asset as would Tugay. Then some of the hangers on in the squad who think they are doing us a favour simply by turning up and drawing a fat wage for doing nothing. Too many at Brockhall in the likeness of Kean who need weeding out. Today Berg made s public statement that will be heard in India that all is not well in the squad and it was not down to bad luck that we lost. Carry on Henning, the future is looking bright.
Need to do better, and so say all of us. Now Berg knows what he has to work with and identifies poor defending as a massive problem. Well that is what we have all said throughout the Kean era but at last we have a manager who acknowledges this in public, something SK would never do. Our defensive unit is weak, inexperienced in key positions and is tactically incompetent due to an awful coach. Berg needs time with his players this week and now we have a manager in place all the unsettling speculation is over and we will see things settle down. Berg needs to assess then clear out all the backroom deadwood accumulated by Kean and bring in his own people. Tony Parkes would be a fantastic asset as would Tugay. Then some of the hangers on in the squad who think they are doing us a favour simply by turning up and drawing a fat wage for doing nothing. Too many at Brockhall in the likeness of Kean who need weeding out. Today Berg made s public statement that will be heard in India that all is not well in the squad and it was not down to bad luck that we lost. Carry on Henning, the future is looking bright. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 11

9:03am Sun 4 Nov 12

billyblue2 says...

ROCHINA. Man of the match against watford. Sub v palace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
ROCHINA. Man of the match against watford. Sub v palace!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! billyblue2
  • Score: 5

9:34am Sun 4 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
Need to do better, and so say all of us. Now Berg knows what he has to work with and identifies poor defending as a massive problem. Well that is what we have all said throughout the Kean era but at last we have a manager who acknowledges this in public, something SK would never do. Our defensive unit is weak, inexperienced in key positions and is tactically incompetent due to an awful coach. Berg needs time with his players this week and now we have a manager in place all the unsettling speculation is over and we will see things settle down. Berg needs to assess then clear out all the backroom deadwood accumulated by Kean and bring in his own people. Tony Parkes would be a fantastic asset as would Tugay. Then some of the hangers on in the squad who think they are doing us a favour simply by turning up and drawing a fat wage for doing nothing. Too many at Brockhall in the likeness of Kean who need weeding out. Today Berg made s public statement that will be heard in India that all is not well in the squad and it was not down to bad luck that we lost. Carry on Henning, the future is looking bright.
Tony Parkes and Tugay would be fantastic but would this regime want them back though ??
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: Need to do better, and so say all of us. Now Berg knows what he has to work with and identifies poor defending as a massive problem. Well that is what we have all said throughout the Kean era but at last we have a manager who acknowledges this in public, something SK would never do. Our defensive unit is weak, inexperienced in key positions and is tactically incompetent due to an awful coach. Berg needs time with his players this week and now we have a manager in place all the unsettling speculation is over and we will see things settle down. Berg needs to assess then clear out all the backroom deadwood accumulated by Kean and bring in his own people. Tony Parkes would be a fantastic asset as would Tugay. Then some of the hangers on in the squad who think they are doing us a favour simply by turning up and drawing a fat wage for doing nothing. Too many at Brockhall in the likeness of Kean who need weeding out. Today Berg made s public statement that will be heard in India that all is not well in the squad and it was not down to bad luck that we lost. Carry on Henning, the future is looking bright.[/p][/quote]Tony Parkes and Tugay would be fantastic but would this regime want them back though ?? Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

9:47am Sun 4 Nov 12

bburnrover says...

We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.
We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things. bburnrover
  • Score: 3

10:14am Sun 4 Nov 12

gleechy says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing.

I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence.

If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have.

We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?
A potentialy up and coming manager?

I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes.

Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly?
I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.
Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see?

The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten?

Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.
Oh I see, I get it.
Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual.
Look I'm sorry for being rude, but I don't appreciate being called a Palace fan, just because I don't follow your line of thought. So I attacked you with sarcasm.
You totally misinterpreted my wording in that I was saying, put yourself in a Palace supporters shoes and look on from the other side (as there are generally two sides to every story and debate).
Would you really have expected to lose ?
Got you, but your argument doedn't hold water. Palace would have earmarked this as a tough game against previously rooted Prem opposition, with the most expensive Championship striker.

Started the day neck and neck. Outclassed opposition on pitch and two clear goals, what more could you want?
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Well that's a refreshing change, a manager who sees what all others do. I've no doubt Mr Berg is here to make the team better, but can't help thinking he's on a hiding to nothing. I get the feling that Shabby is making decisions and HB was so grateful for a job in management that he accepted this, and hoped he would gain their confidence. If Shabby went out and bought cheap foreign imports for Kean, he'll do the same for HB. I really fear for this team. Confidence will not come from inexperience, and that is all we have. We have a non football owner, a football talker, who says anything, and a potentially up and coming Manager, where is the inspiration coming from?[/p][/quote]A potentialy up and coming manager? I for one need you to explain that to me. And why do you claim he cannot inspire, he's only been here two minutes. Lets put it this way, you are a Palace supporter, having watched their performances and then BRFC in turmoil turn up at your place - what would you expect of your team - honestly? I would be looking for a 3 or 4 goal return.[/p][/quote]Are you stupid? He has the potential to be good,ie potentially up and coming, he hasn't come good yet, see? The reason why he will find it hard to inspire is he hasn't done anything yet, no experience to draw on, for others to look up to, what are you ten? Haven't a clue what your Palace mumble is about though you'll need a doctor or someone else for that one.[/p][/quote]Oh I see, I get it. Just like you have the potential to be a reasonable polite individual.[/p][/quote]Look I'm sorry for being rude, but I don't appreciate being called a Palace fan, just because I don't follow your line of thought. So I attacked you with sarcasm.[/p][/quote]You totally misinterpreted my wording in that I was saying, put yourself in a Palace supporters shoes and look on from the other side (as there are generally two sides to every story and debate). Would you really have expected to lose ?[/p][/quote]Got you, but your argument doedn't hold water. Palace would have earmarked this as a tough game against previously rooted Prem opposition, with the most expensive Championship striker. Started the day neck and neck. Outclassed opposition on pitch and two clear goals, what more could you want? gleechy
  • Score: 2

10:19am Sun 4 Nov 12

gleechy says...

bburnrover wrote:
We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.
Which is what they won't do, what is your plan B?
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.[/p][/quote]Which is what they won't do, what is your plan B? gleechy
  • Score: 1

10:23am Sun 4 Nov 12

glp says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote:
Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously


youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
Think his doctors need to increase or change his medication. Obviously the current doseage not controlling his episodes of paranoria
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]Think his doctors need to increase or change his medication. Obviously the current doseage not controlling his episodes of paranoria glp
  • Score: 3

10:26am Sun 4 Nov 12

glp says...

glp wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote:
Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously



youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
Think his doctors need to increase or change his medication. Obviously the current doseage not controlling his episodes of paranoria
Think his doctors need to increase or change his medication. Obviously the current doseage not controlling his episodes of paranoia”
[quote][p][bold]glp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]Think his doctors need to increase or change his medication. Obviously the current doseage not controlling his episodes of paranoria[/p][/quote]Think his doctors need to increase or change his medication. Obviously the current doseage not controlling his episodes of paranoia” glp
  • Score: 0

10:29am Sun 4 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

gleechy wrote:
bburnrover wrote:
We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.
Which is what they won't do, what is your plan B?
"strengthen the squad with quality"

Yes we do need quality but Venkeys have seemingly been spending the last two years 'Getting rid' of all the quality we had and this is the squad we're left with.
Can't see them reversing their policy as quality costs and they haven't exactly spent the last two years ploughing money into the club.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.[/p][/quote]Which is what they won't do, what is your plan B?[/p][/quote]"strengthen the squad with quality" Yes we do need quality but Venkeys have seemingly been spending the last two years 'Getting rid' of all the quality we had and this is the squad we're left with. Can't see them reversing their policy as quality costs and they haven't exactly spent the last two years ploughing money into the club. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

10:32am Sun 4 Nov 12

gleechy says...

kenbro wrote:
Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience.
As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
"Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you".

I think you'll find it's the other way round, the overlying problem gets bigger and is protected by die hard Rover's fans who can't bring themselves to believe the total mess.

When anyone puts a negative accross from their gut feelings, they are shot down because of it being so close to the nerve.

It's understandable,but this forum needs Mr Smell's guts,not literally, otherwise we'd all be ignoring the blatant missuse of a football club by these so called naive owners..
[quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]"Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you". I think you'll find it's the other way round, the overlying problem gets bigger and is protected by die hard Rover's fans who can't bring themselves to believe the total mess. When anyone puts a negative accross from their gut feelings, they are shot down because of it being so close to the nerve. It's understandable,but this forum needs Mr Smell's guts,not literally, otherwise we'd all be ignoring the blatant missuse of a football club by these so called naive owners.. gleechy
  • Score: -1

10:41am Sun 4 Nov 12

whappen says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by.
The guy's only been there three days FFS. How do you expect him to exorcise the Kean legacy in that time?

We all know you didn't like or want HB, but you got him; live with it. You're beginning to sound like that other pr!ck Shaw. So happy was he with the appointment, he looked like his numbers had come up only to find he'd lost his ticket.

Unanimous decision my ar$e. That, my friend, shows where the problems truly lie.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: Sorry Henning....1 point in 9 games and a year on a TV sofa doesn't make good ingredients to be a top manager. At least it keeps your buddy Hendry in gambling tokens and you certain of a multi-million pound contract with no chance of dismissal. All you have to do is front the operation that you're employed by.[/p][/quote]The guy's only been there three days FFS. How do you expect him to exorcise the Kean legacy in that time? We all know you didn't like or want HB, but you got him; live with it. You're beginning to sound like that other pr!ck Shaw. So happy was he with the appointment, he looked like his numbers had come up only to find he'd lost his ticket. Unanimous decision my ar$e. That, my friend, shows where the problems truly lie. whappen
  • Score: 4

10:45am Sun 4 Nov 12

Abu dabi says...

Crystal Palace 2 Chicken Farmers 0 (should have been 3) The Chicken BURGER and Deluded Fans continue to live in cuckoo world. Nothing! Absolutely NOTHING will stop the impending slide to obscurity till the Chicken Farmers and their herd are rid of from this proud town.
Crystal Palace 2 Chicken Farmers 0 (should have been 3) The Chicken BURGER and Deluded Fans continue to live in cuckoo world. Nothing! Absolutely NOTHING will stop the impending slide to obscurity till the Chicken Farmers and their herd are rid of from this proud town. Abu dabi
  • Score: -3

10:53am Sun 4 Nov 12

whappen says...

jackmetickler wrote:
good luck Henning cos your gonna need it. Cant see why we gambled on an inexperienced manager at this or any level really when there were so many better options... but The Venkys know best eh Its their money but its our club and I for one will give you a month to sort this shower out.... a month... cos we know who we got then... and you had better no lose to those inbreds or you will begin to know what SK felt like. One month
It will take a lot longer than that I'm afraid.

HB is not a time traveller and can't take over last May when Kean should have gone. He has to live with the squad he's been left.

Even in terms of ridiculous targets, you should at least give him till the end of January - not that that could be considered in any way reasonable either.

Groucho, Chico and Harpo sitting in the boardroom don't make it any easier, together of course with the Venkys who have an affinity for f@cking up. That wouldn't change even if we had God almighty as manager.
[quote][p][bold]jackmetickler[/bold] wrote: good luck Henning cos your gonna need it. Cant see why we gambled on an inexperienced manager at this or any level really when there were so many better options... but The Venkys know best eh Its their money but its our club and I for one will give you a month to sort this shower out.... a month... cos we know who we got then... and you had better no lose to those inbreds or you will begin to know what SK felt like. One month[/p][/quote]It will take a lot longer than that I'm afraid. HB is not a time traveller and can't take over last May when Kean should have gone. He has to live with the squad he's been left. Even in terms of ridiculous targets, you should at least give him till the end of January - not that that could be considered in any way reasonable either. Groucho, Chico and Harpo sitting in the boardroom don't make it any easier, together of course with the Venkys who have an affinity for f@cking up. That wouldn't change even if we had God almighty as manager. whappen
  • Score: 4

11:02am Sun 4 Nov 12

noddymcleod says...

I am pleased most people wish Berg well, which is a reflexion of fond memories of him as a player.
The optimisitic parallel is Sparky, who had never managed a club side at any level. His first games with the squad he inherited from that dunce Ince were a disaster, but gradually he instilled some rigour into them, got them fit. It will take time and patience. The depressing aide of this is of course, Sparky had a supportive management of Williams and co. Berg has to put up with this numpty Shabby whose only plan is to shoot his mouth off and increase his profile back home.
Berg has a very delicate balance to make, only when he gets the team into shape can he take on Shabby who seems to have the ear of the Venkys. There has to be a eventual parting of the ways.
If - not at this rate - but if Rovers make it back in year one, I can see that loon Shabby and the Venkys staying on to milk the situation of being in the Premiership.
At least give Berg a break and see what he makes of the team.
I am pleased most people wish Berg well, which is a reflexion of fond memories of him as a player. The optimisitic parallel is Sparky, who had never managed a club side at any level. His first games with the squad he inherited from that dunce Ince were a disaster, but gradually he instilled some rigour into them, got them fit. It will take time and patience. The depressing aide of this is of course, Sparky had a supportive management of Williams and co. Berg has to put up with this numpty Shabby whose only plan is to shoot his mouth off and increase his profile back home. Berg has a very delicate balance to make, only when he gets the team into shape can he take on Shabby who seems to have the ear of the Venkys. There has to be a eventual parting of the ways. If - not at this rate - but if Rovers make it back in year one, I can see that loon Shabby and the Venkys staying on to milk the situation of being in the Premiership. At least give Berg a break and see what he makes of the team. noddymcleod
  • Score: 7

11:05am Sun 4 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

After the Kean debacle I can't see why they went down the same road (inexperienced manager) again.

What is their plan? Does anybody know?
After the Kean debacle I can't see why they went down the same road (inexperienced manager) again. What is their plan? Does anybody know? Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

11:24am Sun 4 Nov 12

spike t says...

One point in his last 9 games! Agent Berg take a bow !
One point in his last 9 games! Agent Berg take a bow ! spike t
  • Score: -5

11:37am Sun 4 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
After the Kean debacle I can't see why they went down the same road (inexperienced manager) again.

What is their plan? Does anybody know?
No, and Venky's don't know either. That's the problem. For the last two years, they've been making it up as they go along. Shabby's an idiot, so he doesn't know either.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: After the Kean debacle I can't see why they went down the same road (inexperienced manager) again. What is their plan? Does anybody know?[/p][/quote]No, and Venky's don't know either. That's the problem. For the last two years, they've been making it up as they go along. Shabby's an idiot, so he doesn't know either. Stone Island:
  • Score: 5

11:47am Sun 4 Nov 12

Final word says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Final word wrote:
Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.
Is that an official Kentaro press release??
No its someone who actually wants my club to do well you sad Burnley pr!ck.

Good arguments back by the way.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.[/p][/quote]Is that an official Kentaro press release??[/p][/quote]No its someone who actually wants my club to do well you sad Burnley pr!ck. Good arguments back by the way. Final word
  • Score: 4

11:48am Sun 4 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
After the Kean debacle I can't see why they went down the same road (inexperienced manager) again.

What is their plan? Does anybody know?
No, and Venky's don't know either. That's the problem. For the last two years, they've been making it up as they go along. Shabby's an idiot, so he doesn't know either.
Have they submitted the accounts yet?
Last I heard they were four months late.
Should make interesting reading.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: After the Kean debacle I can't see why they went down the same road (inexperienced manager) again. What is their plan? Does anybody know?[/p][/quote]No, and Venky's don't know either. That's the problem. For the last two years, they've been making it up as they go along. Shabby's an idiot, so he doesn't know either.[/p][/quote]Have they submitted the accounts yet? Last I heard they were four months late. Should make interesting reading. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

11:49am Sun 4 Nov 12

eddyo says...

bburnrover wrote:
We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.
Our squad isn't good enough? For the Championship?
*
Well, you are either a Dingle (probably not) or you know sweet fa about football. You might watch but you appreciate precious little.
*
What is plain to see IS that Hanley isn't enough BECAUSE (yeah, try to give reasons) he is too slow in his head and physically (so he pulled the player back for a pen) AND on crosses he doesn't get his head to the ball first or do enough to put the attacker off. It happened yesterday and against Middlesbrough. Hanley is sh!t and the full backs are physically weak as stoppers. Berg will know this.
*
Stamina comes with fitness - you gain it, not buy it. Anyone can get fit through effort.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.[/p][/quote]Our squad isn't good enough? For the Championship? * Well, you are either a Dingle (probably not) or you know sweet fa about football. You might watch but you appreciate precious little. * What is plain to see IS that Hanley isn't enough BECAUSE (yeah, try to give reasons) he is too slow in his head and physically (so he pulled the player back for a pen) AND on crosses he doesn't get his head to the ball first or do enough to put the attacker off. It happened yesterday and against Middlesbrough. Hanley is sh!t and the full backs are physically weak as stoppers. Berg will know this. * Stamina comes with fitness - you gain it, not buy it. Anyone can get fit through effort. eddyo
  • Score: 3

12:12pm Sun 4 Nov 12

77'sss says...

Well 14 games gone , and we've played well in ???
We have been on a downslope since 2010
We where conceding goals then and that's with the likes of Nielsen samba jones Givet and Robinson and its the same now
It doesn't make a difference who runs the team
If you can't defend you're going to lose games,and as I said after the boro game none of our back 4 or goalkeeper would hold a place in any premiership team,we have proberbly 4 or so midfield/ forwards. Who could make that grade, so don't get to disappointed when we aren't there at the end of the season, there are at least 6 other teams who would fancy their chances of finishing above us and the way we've played so far you could make that 10
Well 14 games gone , and we've played well in ??? We have been on a downslope since 2010 We where conceding goals then and that's with the likes of Nielsen samba jones Givet and Robinson and its the same now It doesn't make a difference who runs the team If you can't defend you're going to lose games,and as I said after the boro game none of our back 4 or goalkeeper would hold a place in any premiership team,we have proberbly 4 or so midfield/ forwards. Who could make that grade, so don't get to disappointed when we aren't there at the end of the season, there are at least 6 other teams who would fancy their chances of finishing above us and the way we've played so far you could make that 10 77'sss
  • Score: 5

12:26pm Sun 4 Nov 12

hugofakenham says...

Ewood say that! wrote:
dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get?
Holloway's Palace win
Freedman's Bolton win
McCarthy's Ipswich win
Dyche's Burnley win
Berg's Blackburn lose !!!!!!!!!!!

Keep it coming.
Keane is vindicated.
[quote][p][bold]Ewood say that![/bold] wrote: dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get?[/p][/quote]Holloway's Palace win Freedman's Bolton win McCarthy's Ipswich win Dyche's Burnley win Berg's Blackburn lose !!!!!!!!!!! Keep it coming. Keane is vindicated. hugofakenham
  • Score: -6

12:46pm Sun 4 Nov 12

ghost of sceptic says...

Need some service to Rhodes! Gomes and Rochina are a must to create chanches.
Need some service to Rhodes! Gomes and Rochina are a must to create chanches. ghost of sceptic
  • Score: 5

1:17pm Sun 4 Nov 12

Angry From Accrington says...

jogalot wrote:
Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning!
Perhaps they are expressing their opinion on the treatment of the former manager?
[quote][p][bold]jogalot[/bold] wrote: Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning![/p][/quote]Perhaps they are expressing their opinion on the treatment of the former manager? Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -1

1:55pm Sun 4 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
jogalot wrote:
Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning!
Perhaps they are expressing their opinion on the treatment of the former manager?
which one? Kean or Black? If it is kean, why have they not done so in games during last month? What a load of rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jogalot[/bold] wrote: Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning![/p][/quote]Perhaps they are expressing their opinion on the treatment of the former manager?[/p][/quote]which one? Kean or Black? If it is kean, why have they not done so in games during last month? What a load of rubbish. merlinrabbit
  • Score: 3

1:58pm Sun 4 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

hugofakenham wrote:
Ewood say that! wrote:
dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get?
Holloway's Palace win
Freedman's Bolton win
McCarthy's Ipswich win
Dyche's Burnley win
Berg's Blackburn lose !!!!!!!!!!!

Keep it coming.
Keane is vindicated.
It's 'Kean' not 'Keane'. If you are going to profess knowledge of Rovers and defend Steve Kean, at least spell his name right.
[quote][p][bold]hugofakenham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ewood say that![/bold] wrote: dyche's new team has won,so has mccarthy's,freedman has inspired his new bolton team to come back from one down and what do we get?[/p][/quote]Holloway's Palace win Freedman's Bolton win McCarthy's Ipswich win Dyche's Burnley win Berg's Blackburn lose !!!!!!!!!!! Keep it coming. Keane is vindicated.[/p][/quote]It's 'Kean' not 'Keane'. If you are going to profess knowledge of Rovers and defend Steve Kean, at least spell his name right. merlinrabbit
  • Score: 2

2:11pm Sun 4 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

Im not sure why so many expected anything different to what weve ended up with. Im surprised we even got a manager. Who in their right minds would work within that set up? It's another long season ahead. I cant see promotion happening. It's going to be Burnley's lucky year. Let's face it they could only ever beat us with the help of Venkys and their agents. Would hardly be a victory of football
Im not sure why so many expected anything different to what weve ended up with. Im surprised we even got a manager. Who in their right minds would work within that set up? It's another long season ahead. I cant see promotion happening. It's going to be Burnley's lucky year. Let's face it they could only ever beat us with the help of Venkys and their agents. Would hardly be a victory of football merlinrabbit
  • Score: 2

2:39pm Sun 4 Nov 12

trueblue72 says...

77'sss wrote:
Well 14 games gone , and we've played well in ???
We have been on a downslope since 2010
We where conceding goals then and that's with the likes of Nielsen samba jones Givet and Robinson and its the same now
It doesn't make a difference who runs the team
If you can't defend you're going to lose games,and as I said after the boro game none of our back 4 or goalkeeper would hold a place in any premiership team,we have proberbly 4 or so midfield/ forwards. Who could make that grade, so don't get to disappointed when we aren't there at the end of the season, there are at least 6 other teams who would fancy their chances of finishing above us and the way we've played so far you could make that 10
Could not agree with you more.
I have been saying for the last few weeks on here that most of the points we have gained this season so far are down to luck more than skill and endeavour. It just papers over the massive cracks that we have as a club and as a team.

I am all for HB and can see the task he has ahead and the people on here who think any other manager in the world could transform this team into promotion certainties are totally naive.
Shebby the mouth wil keep shooting himself and others in the foot with his constant interfering and profile building.
I think personally HB biggest fight is to be left alone and choose his own team/ players required to improve bus and build towards a proper promotion push next season.
The squad he has inherited is awful with too many over the hills and to many journeyman with not an ounce of fight or club spirit.
He could do far worse than play more of the kids who want to be here, who want to play for the club and fight for the cause.

I would love to hold my hands up at the end of the season and say I was wrong and what a wonderful transformation of the team he has done and how we deserved the promotion... But hand on heart I can't see it.

Lets all get behind the team on Saturday and show our support for HB and show the footballing world that we are proper fans who are willing to give the club a good chance and we are not a bunch of whining moaning fans who will never be happy with anything and think we have a divine right to be in the top tier of the football leagues.

I just pray that this lot in charge don't ruin us anymore and we have a football club left when they finally sell up and go.
God knows when that will be (probably when there is nothing left for them to take) but we will have to pray for the best until that does finally happen.
[quote][p][bold]77'sss[/bold] wrote: Well 14 games gone , and we've played well in ??? We have been on a downslope since 2010 We where conceding goals then and that's with the likes of Nielsen samba jones Givet and Robinson and its the same now It doesn't make a difference who runs the team If you can't defend you're going to lose games,and as I said after the boro game none of our back 4 or goalkeeper would hold a place in any premiership team,we have proberbly 4 or so midfield/ forwards. Who could make that grade, so don't get to disappointed when we aren't there at the end of the season, there are at least 6 other teams who would fancy their chances of finishing above us and the way we've played so far you could make that 10[/p][/quote]Could not agree with you more. I have been saying for the last few weeks on here that most of the points we have gained this season so far are down to luck more than skill and endeavour. It just papers over the massive cracks that we have as a club and as a team. I am all for HB and can see the task he has ahead and the people on here who think any other manager in the world could transform this team into promotion certainties are totally naive. Shebby the mouth wil keep shooting himself and others in the foot with his constant interfering and profile building. I think personally HB biggest fight is to be left alone and choose his own team/ players required to improve bus and build towards a proper promotion push next season. The squad he has inherited is awful with too many over the hills and to many journeyman with not an ounce of fight or club spirit. He could do far worse than play more of the kids who want to be here, who want to play for the club and fight for the cause. I would love to hold my hands up at the end of the season and say I was wrong and what a wonderful transformation of the team he has done and how we deserved the promotion... But hand on heart I can't see it. Lets all get behind the team on Saturday and show our support for HB and show the footballing world that we are proper fans who are willing to give the club a good chance and we are not a bunch of whining moaning fans who will never be happy with anything and think we have a divine right to be in the top tier of the football leagues. I just pray that this lot in charge don't ruin us anymore and we have a football club left when they finally sell up and go. God knows when that will be (probably when there is nothing left for them to take) but we will have to pray for the best until that does finally happen. trueblue72
  • Score: 6

3:05pm Sun 4 Nov 12

Final word says...

trueblue72 wrote:
77'sss wrote:
Well 14 games gone , and we've played well in ???
We have been on a downslope since 2010
We where conceding goals then and that's with the likes of Nielsen samba jones Givet and Robinson and its the same now
It doesn't make a difference who runs the team
If you can't defend you're going to lose games,and as I said after the boro game none of our back 4 or goalkeeper would hold a place in any premiership team,we have proberbly 4 or so midfield/ forwards. Who could make that grade, so don't get to disappointed when we aren't there at the end of the season, there are at least 6 other teams who would fancy their chances of finishing above us and the way we've played so far you could make that 10
Could not agree with you more.
I have been saying for the last few weeks on here that most of the points we have gained this season so far are down to luck more than skill and endeavour. It just papers over the massive cracks that we have as a club and as a team.

I am all for HB and can see the task he has ahead and the people on here who think any other manager in the world could transform this team into promotion certainties are totally naive.
Shebby the mouth wil keep shooting himself and others in the foot with his constant interfering and profile building.
I think personally HB biggest fight is to be left alone and choose his own team/ players required to improve bus and build towards a proper promotion push next season.
The squad he has inherited is awful with too many over the hills and to many journeyman with not an ounce of fight or club spirit.
He could do far worse than play more of the kids who want to be here, who want to play for the club and fight for the cause.

I would love to hold my hands up at the end of the season and say I was wrong and what a wonderful transformation of the team he has done and how we deserved the promotion... But hand on heart I can't see it.

Lets all get behind the team on Saturday and show our support for HB and show the footballing world that we are proper fans who are willing to give the club a good chance and we are not a bunch of whining moaning fans who will never be happy with anything and think we have a divine right to be in the top tier of the football leagues.

I just pray that this lot in charge don't ruin us anymore and we have a football club left when they finally sell up and go.
God knows when that will be (probably when there is nothing left for them to take) but we will have to pray for the best until that does finally happen.
Very good post
[quote][p][bold]trueblue72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]77'sss[/bold] wrote: Well 14 games gone , and we've played well in ??? We have been on a downslope since 2010 We where conceding goals then and that's with the likes of Nielsen samba jones Givet and Robinson and its the same now It doesn't make a difference who runs the team If you can't defend you're going to lose games,and as I said after the boro game none of our back 4 or goalkeeper would hold a place in any premiership team,we have proberbly 4 or so midfield/ forwards. Who could make that grade, so don't get to disappointed when we aren't there at the end of the season, there are at least 6 other teams who would fancy their chances of finishing above us and the way we've played so far you could make that 10[/p][/quote]Could not agree with you more. I have been saying for the last few weeks on here that most of the points we have gained this season so far are down to luck more than skill and endeavour. It just papers over the massive cracks that we have as a club and as a team. I am all for HB and can see the task he has ahead and the people on here who think any other manager in the world could transform this team into promotion certainties are totally naive. Shebby the mouth wil keep shooting himself and others in the foot with his constant interfering and profile building. I think personally HB biggest fight is to be left alone and choose his own team/ players required to improve bus and build towards a proper promotion push next season. The squad he has inherited is awful with too many over the hills and to many journeyman with not an ounce of fight or club spirit. He could do far worse than play more of the kids who want to be here, who want to play for the club and fight for the cause. I would love to hold my hands up at the end of the season and say I was wrong and what a wonderful transformation of the team he has done and how we deserved the promotion... But hand on heart I can't see it. Lets all get behind the team on Saturday and show our support for HB and show the footballing world that we are proper fans who are willing to give the club a good chance and we are not a bunch of whining moaning fans who will never be happy with anything and think we have a divine right to be in the top tier of the football leagues. I just pray that this lot in charge don't ruin us anymore and we have a football club left when they finally sell up and go. God knows when that will be (probably when there is nothing left for them to take) but we will have to pray for the best until that does finally happen.[/p][/quote]Very good post Final word
  • Score: 6

3:08pm Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right.
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A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!!
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Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner..... smellthecoffee
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Final word wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
Final word wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.
Is that an official Kentaro press release??
No its someone who actually wants my club to do well you sad Burnley pr!ck. Good arguments back by the way.
touchy!! What's up?? Your plans falling apart??
[quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.[/p][/quote]Is that an official Kentaro press release??[/p][/quote]No its someone who actually wants my club to do well you sad Burnley pr!ck. Good arguments back by the way.[/p][/quote]touchy!! What's up?? Your plans falling apart?? smellthecoffee
  • Score: -3

3:26pm Sun 4 Nov 12

roop_-33 says...

ffs give berg a chance and stop your moaning its not constructive and doesnt benefit anybody.it seems as though some of you are in your element when your whinging and whining always being negative. get behind your/our team and think positive without this we will end up like the dingles stuck in limbo.how do expect success without positivity?
ffs give berg a chance and stop your moaning its not constructive and doesnt benefit anybody.it seems as though some of you are in your element when your whinging and whining always being negative. get behind your/our team and think positive without this we will end up like the dingles stuck in limbo.how do expect success without positivity? roop_-33
  • Score: 7

3:48pm Sun 4 Nov 12

Final word says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Final word wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
Final word wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.
Is that an official Kentaro press release??
No its someone who actually wants my club to do well you sad Burnley pr!ck. Good arguments back by the way.
touchy!! What's up?? Your plans falling apart??
Hahaha you are obviously determined to remain negative to everything so I will leave you to it and let you get back to your afternoon nap. If you had read any of my posts over the last couple of years you would know I have been highly critical of Venky's and dispised Kean. Now I want to see a glimmer of light and look forward to the possibility of the team improving, something that obviously isn't in your remit.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.[/p][/quote]Is that an official Kentaro press release??[/p][/quote]No its someone who actually wants my club to do well you sad Burnley pr!ck. Good arguments back by the way.[/p][/quote]touchy!! What's up?? Your plans falling apart??[/p][/quote]Hahaha you are obviously determined to remain negative to everything so I will leave you to it and let you get back to your afternoon nap. If you had read any of my posts over the last couple of years you would know I have been highly critical of Venky's and dispised Kean. Now I want to see a glimmer of light and look forward to the possibility of the team improving, something that obviously isn't in your remit. Final word
  • Score: 6

4:07pm Sun 4 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Final word wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.
Is that an official Kentaro press release??
Your conspiracy theories may be loony Smelly, but your darker intentions are coming through loud and clear, as are your obvious frustrations of failure.

You're starting to sound like a grumpy old man with that stuck record "agents fees" rant.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: Some Rovers fans need to get a grip, unless it is Burnley fans trying to stir the situation. It's his first game in charge and everyone's criticising. Even though we have won games this season we all know the performances haven't been up to scratch. This is the reality of where the team is at at this moment in time, we come up against a decent side and we struggle. Can anyone honestly say that we deserved to win against the likes of Barnsley earlier this season? Not a chance, they battered us, but we did. We cannot go through a full season under performing and get promoted. Berg has had a few days with the team, what do we expect? That everything will be fine from day one? There is a lot of work to be done with these players and it will take time to get his ideas across. The key thing he has to try and manage is to stay in touch with the leading pack whilst this transition takes place. I also notice that people have stated a few new managers have won on their debuts, so what? Many a time a new manager comes in a gets a good run of results but on many occasions it reverts back to type/normality. Look at O'neill at Sunderland and Coyle at Bolton but to name a couple. Real sustained change takes time. And when the philosophy/mentality etc are really instilled into the team/club only then can sustained improvement/growth be achieved. Some players won't buy into new ideas, they will be gone. Some players will thrive and help any new players who arrive. Kean has gone, we got what we wanted. To criticise Berg at this stage is just nonsense. Some good changes have happened over the last few months, we can't keep automatically criticising every decision as we won't move forward as a club. We can't forget what has gone on over the last two years but we also can't never trust again because this will only continue to hold us back. We have to keep our end of the bargain and get behind the manager now. Make Ewood a hard place to come for oppositions and we have a chance of keeping up the fight until Henning can't instil his own ideas onto the team. I welcome any criticism but not from people who are too stubborn to move on from the past which would allow us to move forward.[/p][/quote]Is that an official Kentaro press release??[/p][/quote]Your conspiracy theories may be loony Smelly, but your darker intentions are coming through loud and clear, as are your obvious frustrations of failure. You're starting to sound like a grumpy old man with that stuck record "agents fees" rant. blueblooded
  • Score: 6

4:48pm Sun 4 Nov 12

stefjam says...

bring back the good old days says... In the next couple of years ALL clubs will have to do likewise. This is not such a bad thing as it will attend some way into the gross imbalance between the 'haves' and 'have not' clubs. You really do live in the past if you think the the big clubs ate going to 'play fair'. They will find some kind of tax fiddle or con to carry on millions in debt & paying stupid wages to staff. Look at how Man City owners sponsored their own stadium with a ridiculous amount of money & UEFA turn a blind eye.
bring back the good old days says... In the next couple of years ALL clubs will have to do likewise. This is not such a bad thing as it will attend some way into the gross imbalance between the 'haves' and 'have not' clubs. You really do live in the past if you think the the big clubs ate going to 'play fair'. They will find some kind of tax fiddle or con to carry on millions in debt & paying stupid wages to staff. Look at how Man City owners sponsored their own stadium with a ridiculous amount of money & UEFA turn a blind eye. stefjam
  • Score: 3

5:01pm Sun 4 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right.
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A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!!
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Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....
aah.. the good old I went to the games since..."

Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like..

Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade,

Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....[/p][/quote]aah.. the good old I went to the games since..." Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like.. Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade, Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over. blueblooded
  • Score: 2

5:08pm Sun 4 Nov 12

pepperpot2296 says...

There is no hiding place for the players now, a large percentage of the team have been hiding behind the S.Kean flak. Now is the time to EARN their over inflated wages cos. they haven,t done so for the past two years
There is no hiding place for the players now, a large percentage of the team have been hiding behind the S.Kean flak. Now is the time to EARN their over inflated wages cos. they haven,t done so for the past two years pepperpot2296
  • Score: 5

5:41pm Sun 4 Nov 12

77'sss says...

Isn't it time we give a few of our squad players a go in the team and it might just give a kick up the backside to some of our non performing players
How about this for a line up
Jake kean,,, Bruno Ribiero, Adam Henley,Nuno Henrique,Martin Olsson
Paulo Jorge ,,Diogo rosado,,Rahim Hanley,,Fabio Nunes
Jordan Rhodes, Ruben Rochina
Give them 3 games then take stock of the situation
We haven't played well in any games
So why not give em a chance
Isn't it time we give a few of our squad players a go in the team and it might just give a kick up the backside to some of our non performing players How about this for a line up Jake kean,,, Bruno Ribiero, Adam Henley,Nuno Henrique,Martin Olsson Paulo Jorge ,,Diogo rosado,,Rahim Hanley,,Fabio Nunes Jordan Rhodes, Ruben Rochina Give them 3 games then take stock of the situation We haven't played well in any games So why not give em a chance 77'sss
  • Score: -2

6:12pm Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

blueblooded wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....
aah.. the good old I went to the games since..." Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like.. Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade, Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over.
...yes and sadly it seems I'm not the only one judging by the plummeting home attendances...or are they just newspaper/website misprints?? Agent fees in the annual accounts should make interesting reading...or will they be fudged like everything else?? Also, please could you tell me how many "sister" companies Kentaro have?? Any based in Portugal by any chance....???
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....[/p][/quote]aah.. the good old I went to the games since..." Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like.. Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade, Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over.[/p][/quote]...yes and sadly it seems I'm not the only one judging by the plummeting home attendances...or are they just newspaper/website misprints?? Agent fees in the annual accounts should make interesting reading...or will they be fudged like everything else?? Also, please could you tell me how many "sister" companies Kentaro have?? Any based in Portugal by any chance....??? smellthecoffee
  • Score: 1

6:17pm Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

roop_-33 wrote:
ffs give berg a chance and stop your moaning its not constructive and doesnt benefit anybody.it seems as though some of you are in your element when your whinging and whining always being negative. get behind your/our team and think positive without this we will end up like the dingles stuck in limbo.how do expect success without positivity?
Congratulations...yo
u have reached your 200th account!! You qualify for an additional Portuguese or Spanish free transfer commission token for January's window!!
[quote][p][bold]roop_-33[/bold] wrote: ffs give berg a chance and stop your moaning its not constructive and doesnt benefit anybody.it seems as though some of you are in your element when your whinging and whining always being negative. get behind your/our team and think positive without this we will end up like the dingles stuck in limbo.how do expect success without positivity?[/p][/quote]Congratulations...yo u have reached your 200th account!! You qualify for an additional Portuguese or Spanish free transfer commission token for January's window!! smellthecoffee
  • Score: -2

6:31pm Sun 4 Nov 12

roop_-33 says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
roop_-33 wrote:
ffs give berg a chance and stop your moaning its not constructive and doesnt benefit anybody.it seems as though some of you are in your element when your whinging and whining always being negative. get behind your/our team and think positive without this we will end up like the dingles stuck in limbo.how do expect success without positivity?
Congratulations...yo

u have reached your 200th account!! You qualify for an additional Portuguese or Spanish free transfer commission token for January's window!!
thanks i will try a Spanish token please think weve used too many Portuguese ones.changing your name too smellthepessimism or better still smellthebollox.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roop_-33[/bold] wrote: ffs give berg a chance and stop your moaning its not constructive and doesnt benefit anybody.it seems as though some of you are in your element when your whinging and whining always being negative. get behind your/our team and think positive without this we will end up like the dingles stuck in limbo.how do expect success without positivity?[/p][/quote]Congratulations...yo u have reached your 200th account!! You qualify for an additional Portuguese or Spanish free transfer commission token for January's window!![/p][/quote]thanks i will try a Spanish token please think weve used too many Portuguese ones.changing your name too smellthepessimism or better still smellthebollox. roop_-33
  • Score: 2

6:36pm Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

I wonder why Jerome Anderson allegedly threatened legal action against any negative comments (on here) about him or his company?? Not the smartest move to make in the "circumstances" imo.
I wonder why Jerome Anderson allegedly threatened legal action against any negative comments (on here) about him or his company?? Not the smartest move to make in the "circumstances" imo. smellthecoffee
  • Score: 1

7:25pm Sun 4 Nov 12

whappen says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
jogalot wrote: Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning!
Perhaps they are expressing their opinion on the treatment of the former manager?
Do you seriously think the players give a d@mn about the manager getting booed? It helps deflect from their own deficiencies.

Robbie Savage said players don't care who the manager is as long as they get paid and get a game (in that order).

Nuff said.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jogalot[/bold] wrote: Now you know the quality of the squad you got, Henning! According to Simon Garner, out of the starting 11, only Adam Henley and Rhodes showed they were playing like they were trying to impress the manager. All the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. Rochina sounded lively when he came on but there must be some deep unrest in the squad if they couldn't raise their game for their new manager. Berg will sort them out. He'll have to. He has a big job on. Good luck, Henning![/p][/quote]Perhaps they are expressing their opinion on the treatment of the former manager?[/p][/quote]Do you seriously think the players give a d@mn about the manager getting booed? It helps deflect from their own deficiencies. Robbie Savage said players don't care who the manager is as long as they get paid and get a game (in that order). Nuff said. whappen
  • Score: 2

7:33pm Sun 4 Nov 12

whappen says...

gleechy wrote:
bburnrover wrote: We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.
Which is what they won't do, what is your plan B?
I think you'll find Formica Rochina and Orr were all brought in before the heejut Singh set foot in the place.

In fact, Formica and Rochina were brought in by you-know-who.

Remember him Stevie K? The guy who first interfered with team selection.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: We all know deep down that our squad isnt up to the task kean was lucky in his first few games were we played awful and scraped wins. I feel for Hening as he definately requires to strngthen the squad with quality and get rid of the dead legs Shebby has sgned.Formica Rochina Orr and quie a few more jst havent got enough stamina for this league and Dann and Hanley are too easily panicked.I feel we will have to wai or the January window and see if he can bring a couple of players in to change things.[/p][/quote]Which is what they won't do, what is your plan B?[/p][/quote]I think you'll find Formica Rochina and Orr were all brought in before the heejut Singh set foot in the place. In fact, Formica and Rochina were brought in by you-know-who. Remember him Stevie K? The guy who first interfered with team selection. whappen
  • Score: 1

7:40pm Sun 4 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....
aah.. the good old I went to the games since..." Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like.. Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade, Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over.
...yes and sadly it seems I'm not the only one judging by the plummeting home attendances...or are they just newspaper/website misprints?? Agent fees in the annual accounts should make interesting reading...or will they be fudged like everything else?? Also, please could you tell me how many "sister" companies Kentaro have?? Any based in Portugal by any chance....???
Why ask me?

You're the Oracle that knows all.. In your own head admittedly.

I suspect that in the states there are yank equivalents of you smelly, you know the ones who believe in crop circles and alien abduction, trying to convince the world they were butt probed by green six fingered visitors.

The crop circle being at Ewood and the aliens being SEM/Kentaro in this scenario.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....[/p][/quote]aah.. the good old I went to the games since..." Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like.. Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade, Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over.[/p][/quote]...yes and sadly it seems I'm not the only one judging by the plummeting home attendances...or are they just newspaper/website misprints?? Agent fees in the annual accounts should make interesting reading...or will they be fudged like everything else?? Also, please could you tell me how many "sister" companies Kentaro have?? Any based in Portugal by any chance....???[/p][/quote]Why ask me? You're the Oracle that knows all.. In your own head admittedly. I suspect that in the states there are yank equivalents of you smelly, you know the ones who believe in crop circles and alien abduction, trying to convince the world they were butt probed by green six fingered visitors. The crop circle being at Ewood and the aliens being SEM/Kentaro in this scenario. blueblooded
  • Score: 0

8:14pm Sun 4 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

blueblooded wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....
aah.. the good old I went to the games since..." Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like.. Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade, Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over.
...yes and sadly it seems I'm not the only one judging by the plummeting home attendances...or are they just newspaper/website misprints?? Agent fees in the annual accounts should make interesting reading...or will they be fudged like everything else?? Also, please could you tell me how many "sister" companies Kentaro have?? Any based in Portugal by any chance....???
Why ask me? You're the Oracle that knows all.. In your own head admittedly. I suspect that in the states there are yank equivalents of you smelly, you know the ones who believe in crop circles and alien abduction, trying to convince the world they were butt probed by green six fingered visitors. The crop circle being at Ewood and the aliens being SEM/Kentaro in this scenario.
;-)
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....[/p][/quote]aah.. the good old I went to the games since..." Yeah amazing what wikipedia stats and a few player names dropped can make you sound like.. Fact is you're an EX-supporter, and by all accounts your tenure as both a supporter and fan is over for the foreseeable future as its unlikely that Venkys will be going anywhere in the next decade, Sadly, it seems you dont seem to be able to come to terms that for you, its over.[/p][/quote]...yes and sadly it seems I'm not the only one judging by the plummeting home attendances...or are they just newspaper/website misprints?? Agent fees in the annual accounts should make interesting reading...or will they be fudged like everything else?? Also, please could you tell me how many "sister" companies Kentaro have?? Any based in Portugal by any chance....???[/p][/quote]Why ask me? You're the Oracle that knows all.. In your own head admittedly. I suspect that in the states there are yank equivalents of you smelly, you know the ones who believe in crop circles and alien abduction, trying to convince the world they were butt probed by green six fingered visitors. The crop circle being at Ewood and the aliens being SEM/Kentaro in this scenario.[/p][/quote];-) smellthecoffee
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Sun 4 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

stefjam wrote:
bring back the good old days says... In the next couple of years ALL clubs will have to do likewise. This is not such a bad thing as it will attend some way into the gross imbalance between the 'haves' and 'have not' clubs. You really do live in the past if you think the the big clubs ate going to 'play fair'. They will find some kind of tax fiddle or con to carry on millions in debt & paying stupid wages to staff. Look at how Man City owners sponsored their own stadium with a ridiculous amount of money & UEFA turn a blind eye.
Please note I said SOME WAY, not the eradication.
I am possibly the most anti Sky media circus gravy train individal you could come across.
Todays modern world is built on corruption and the shennanegins in professional football at the top is prime example.
You are quite right that many will find some ways around it, just like they do in all walks of life. But, to have legislation to take action as opposed to none whatsoever can only be a good thing. In my very humble 'living in the past' opinion.
[quote][p][bold]stefjam[/bold] wrote: bring back the good old days says... In the next couple of years ALL clubs will have to do likewise. This is not such a bad thing as it will attend some way into the gross imbalance between the 'haves' and 'have not' clubs. You really do live in the past if you think the the big clubs ate going to 'play fair'. They will find some kind of tax fiddle or con to carry on millions in debt & paying stupid wages to staff. Look at how Man City owners sponsored their own stadium with a ridiculous amount of money & UEFA turn a blind eye.[/p][/quote]Please note I said SOME WAY, not the eradication. I am possibly the most anti Sky media circus gravy train individal you could come across. Todays modern world is built on corruption and the shennanegins in professional football at the top is prime example. You are quite right that many will find some ways around it, just like they do in all walks of life. But, to have legislation to take action as opposed to none whatsoever can only be a good thing. In my very humble 'living in the past' opinion. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 2

8:24pm Sun 4 Nov 12

whappen says...

srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.
I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.
No they didn't. They had to be serviced - a little like your mortgage or interest free loan from DHL; do that and nobody's worried. That is how banks make their profits y'know, lending money. It is better for them if we stay in debt, as long as we stick to any agreements made with them.

Venkys didn't, the bank threatened to cut off its credit to the point of possibly threatening foreclosure (ref. Paul Hunt's leaked letter). They had also demanded the £10mill Venkys had said they would pay when the took over the club but hadn't. No wonder they got twitchy.

Every football club in the top two divisions is in debt one way or another. And virtually all of those below them. So why did we have to be debt free? Could they not manage the debt? We seem to have been doing it previously. Then again, we did have people in charge who were capable of distinguishing their @rse from their elbow in those days.

Venkys have had the bizarre policy of cost cutting when they had the guaranteed £40odd million income and speculating using copius amounts of money when we haven't. If they hadn't gone on their ill-conceived economy drive last year, they may have been £25-30mill better off this - even with Kean.

Then again, we haven't seen last year's accounts. Based on their first year (losses increased by over 900%) they may be enough to make your eyes water. I suppose it depends on which recipe the accountants are using.

People keep referring to the owners taking advantage of the parachute payments as though all the costs have disappeared just because we got relegated. The wage bill of the new players alone will eat up the majority of that and we still have to pay those that were already here.

Relegation and retaining Kean has seen us almost certain to miss out on the bonanza of the new TV deal next year. That will be another £50mill+ down the pan when you consider the parachute payments will drop by half.

And the high earners will still be here remember as no-one's going to pay them what we are, so the accountants are going to have to be even more imaginative. Or Venkys may just jump ship, leaving it to sink without a trace.

Good luck Henning, you are going to need it mate.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.[/p][/quote]No they didn't. They had to be serviced - a little like your mortgage or interest free loan from DHL; do that and nobody's worried. That is how banks make their profits y'know, lending money. It is better for them if we stay in debt, as long as we stick to any agreements made with them. Venkys didn't, the bank threatened to cut off its credit to the point of possibly threatening foreclosure (ref. Paul Hunt's leaked letter). They had also demanded the £10mill Venkys had said they would pay when the took over the club but hadn't. No wonder they got twitchy. Every football club in the top two divisions is in debt one way or another. And virtually all of those below them. So why did we have to be debt free? Could they not manage the debt? We seem to have been doing it previously. Then again, we did have people in charge who were capable of distinguishing their @rse from their elbow in those days. Venkys have had the bizarre policy of cost cutting when they had the guaranteed £40odd million income and speculating using copius amounts of money when we haven't. If they hadn't gone on their ill-conceived economy drive last year, they may have been £25-30mill better off this - even with Kean. Then again, we haven't seen last year's accounts. Based on their first year (losses increased by over 900%) they may be enough to make your eyes water. I suppose it depends on which recipe the accountants are using. People keep referring to the owners taking advantage of the parachute payments as though all the costs have disappeared just because we got relegated. The wage bill of the new players alone will eat up the majority of that and we still have to pay those that were already here. Relegation and retaining Kean has seen us almost certain to miss out on the bonanza of the new TV deal next year. That will be another £50mill+ down the pan when you consider the parachute payments will drop by half. And the high earners will still be here remember as no-one's going to pay them what we are, so the accountants are going to have to be even more imaginative. Or Venkys may just jump ship, leaving it to sink without a trace. Good luck Henning, you are going to need it mate. whappen
  • Score: 3

8:47pm Sun 4 Nov 12

rovertezza says...

Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.
Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them. rovertezza
  • Score: 4

8:48pm Sun 4 Nov 12

BlueSkies says...

whappen wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.
I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.
No they didn't. They had to be serviced - a little like your mortgage or interest free loan from DHL; do that and nobody's worried. That is how banks make their profits y'know, lending money. It is better for them if we stay in debt, as long as we stick to any agreements made with them.

Venkys didn't, the bank threatened to cut off its credit to the point of possibly threatening foreclosure (ref. Paul Hunt's leaked letter). They had also demanded the £10mill Venkys had said they would pay when the took over the club but hadn't. No wonder they got twitchy.

Every football club in the top two divisions is in debt one way or another. And virtually all of those below them. So why did we have to be debt free? Could they not manage the debt? We seem to have been doing it previously. Then again, we did have people in charge who were capable of distinguishing their @rse from their elbow in those days.

Venkys have had the bizarre policy of cost cutting when they had the guaranteed £40odd million income and speculating using copius amounts of money when we haven't. If they hadn't gone on their ill-conceived economy drive last year, they may have been £25-30mill better off this - even with Kean.

Then again, we haven't seen last year's accounts. Based on their first year (losses increased by over 900%) they may be enough to make your eyes water. I suppose it depends on which recipe the accountants are using.

People keep referring to the owners taking advantage of the parachute payments as though all the costs have disappeared just because we got relegated. The wage bill of the new players alone will eat up the majority of that and we still have to pay those that were already here.

Relegation and retaining Kean has seen us almost certain to miss out on the bonanza of the new TV deal next year. That will be another £50mill+ down the pan when you consider the parachute payments will drop by half.

And the high earners will still be here remember as no-one's going to pay them what we are, so the accountants are going to have to be even more imaginative. Or Venkys may just jump ship, leaving it to sink without a trace.

Good luck Henning, you are going to need it mate.
Nice post whappen.

For me, promotion is unlikely at best, impossible at worst.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be at Huddersfield on Tuesday.

The game is corrupt. Agents still have a MASSIVE influence on BRFC matters. Murphy, Gomes etc, wouldn't have happened anywhere else possibly.

I genuinely believe we'll be in Lg1 or Lg2 in the next five years, but that will probably have to happen to lose the so-called owners of this club.

In the meantime, best of luck to Henning Berg. I hope he negotiated a decent contract for himself, and he has BRFC history. It won't happen overnight. We are still a team with glaring defincies.
[quote][p][bold]whappen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.[/p][/quote]No they didn't. They had to be serviced - a little like your mortgage or interest free loan from DHL; do that and nobody's worried. That is how banks make their profits y'know, lending money. It is better for them if we stay in debt, as long as we stick to any agreements made with them. Venkys didn't, the bank threatened to cut off its credit to the point of possibly threatening foreclosure (ref. Paul Hunt's leaked letter). They had also demanded the £10mill Venkys had said they would pay when the took over the club but hadn't. No wonder they got twitchy. Every football club in the top two divisions is in debt one way or another. And virtually all of those below them. So why did we have to be debt free? Could they not manage the debt? We seem to have been doing it previously. Then again, we did have people in charge who were capable of distinguishing their @rse from their elbow in those days. Venkys have had the bizarre policy of cost cutting when they had the guaranteed £40odd million income and speculating using copius amounts of money when we haven't. If they hadn't gone on their ill-conceived economy drive last year, they may have been £25-30mill better off this - even with Kean. Then again, we haven't seen last year's accounts. Based on their first year (losses increased by over 900%) they may be enough to make your eyes water. I suppose it depends on which recipe the accountants are using. People keep referring to the owners taking advantage of the parachute payments as though all the costs have disappeared just because we got relegated. The wage bill of the new players alone will eat up the majority of that and we still have to pay those that were already here. Relegation and retaining Kean has seen us almost certain to miss out on the bonanza of the new TV deal next year. That will be another £50mill+ down the pan when you consider the parachute payments will drop by half. And the high earners will still be here remember as no-one's going to pay them what we are, so the accountants are going to have to be even more imaginative. Or Venkys may just jump ship, leaving it to sink without a trace. Good luck Henning, you are going to need it mate.[/p][/quote]Nice post whappen. For me, promotion is unlikely at best, impossible at worst. Don't get me wrong, I'll be at Huddersfield on Tuesday. The game is corrupt. Agents still have a MASSIVE influence on BRFC matters. Murphy, Gomes etc, wouldn't have happened anywhere else possibly. I genuinely believe we'll be in Lg1 or Lg2 in the next five years, but that will probably have to happen to lose the so-called owners of this club. In the meantime, best of luck to Henning Berg. I hope he negotiated a decent contract for himself, and he has BRFC history. It won't happen overnight. We are still a team with glaring defincies. BlueSkies
  • Score: 0

8:51pm Sun 4 Nov 12

kazluvsrovers says...

Does anyone know when Leon Best is supposed to be returning? he can pair
up with Jordon Rhodes. might be a good strike force!!!!
Does anyone know when Leon Best is supposed to be returning? he can pair up with Jordon Rhodes. might be a good strike force!!!! kazluvsrovers
  • Score: 2

9:10pm Sun 4 Nov 12

J.C - Rishton says...

kazluvsrovers wrote:
Does anyone know when Leon Best is supposed to be returning? he can pair
up with Jordon Rhodes. might be a good strike force!!!!
Due back March but he ruptured his cruciate ligament.

To put in context - its like breaking your leg but X it by2 - mentally and phyiscally.

Don't really expect him really contribute (properly) until next season - anything else is unfair on him and un-realistic.

Look on him as a new signing from next pre-season
[quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know when Leon Best is supposed to be returning? he can pair up with Jordon Rhodes. might be a good strike force!!!![/p][/quote]Due back March but he ruptured his cruciate ligament. To put in context - its like breaking your leg but X it by2 - mentally and phyiscally. Don't really expect him really contribute (properly) until next season - anything else is unfair on him and un-realistic. Look on him as a new signing from next pre-season J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 3

10:01pm Sun 4 Nov 12

proud burnley lad says...

as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha
as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha proud burnley lad
  • Score: -3

10:10pm Sun 4 Nov 12

kazluvsrovers says...

proud burnley lad wrote:
as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha
Get stuffed Dingle!!!!
[quote][p][bold]proud burnley lad[/bold] wrote: as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha[/p][/quote]Get stuffed Dingle!!!! kazluvsrovers
  • Score: 0

10:30pm Sun 4 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

kazluvsrovers wrote:
proud burnley lad wrote:
as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha
Get stuffed Dingle!!!!
Well said Kaz, but I think he's best ignored and then he'll have nobody to play with. He can run along home then to his mum and his sister,
[quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]proud burnley lad[/bold] wrote: as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha[/p][/quote]Get stuffed Dingle!!!![/p][/quote]Well said Kaz, but I think he's best ignored and then he'll have nobody to play with. He can run along home then to his mum and his sister, Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

12:12am Mon 5 Nov 12

one more season says...

Surely if we have defensive problems thats down to Hendry, so get rid of him.Who the hell wants him at our once proud football club anyway.
Surely if we have defensive problems thats down to Hendry, so get rid of him.Who the hell wants him at our once proud football club anyway. one more season
  • Score: 3

1:15am Mon 5 Nov 12

kiwipom73 says...

When you stand back and look at the five new Manager,s in the Championship league last weekend it is a worry that non of the other four where EVER really in the picture or had showed interest in the club at this present times.
(they are all experienced Managers of great potential)
You ask yourself why and maybe part of the answer is the damaged done by Kean plus the state of the playing squad & backroom staff that HB has inherited...OR the Venky,s track record over the two years...OR the outspoken "twit" that is called a Gobal Advisor....OR the terms and conditions the new person had to take on-board !!
Whatever the reason it is about time ALL REAL SUPPORTERS of the team got behind HB and
1) appreciate the BIG challenge he has taken on
2) the need for a vocal home support and make the team feel they have the backing of a 20,000 crowd.
Berg will need all the supporter and encouragement.....of course it will need the whole team to stand up and be counted, show some "balls" and think of the club and NOT themselves.
COYB
When you stand back and look at the five new Manager,s in the Championship league last weekend it is a worry that non of the other four where EVER really in the picture or had showed interest in the club at this present times. (they are all experienced Managers of great potential) You ask yourself why and maybe part of the answer is the damaged done by Kean plus the state of the playing squad & backroom staff that HB has inherited...OR the Venky,s track record over the two years...OR the outspoken "twit" that is called a Gobal Advisor....OR the terms and conditions the new person had to take on-board !! Whatever the reason it is about time ALL REAL SUPPORTERS of the team got behind HB and 1) appreciate the BIG challenge he has taken on 2) the need for a vocal home support and make the team feel they have the backing of a 20,000 crowd. Berg will need all the supporter and encouragement.....of course it will need the whole team to stand up and be counted, show some "balls" and think of the club and NOT themselves. COYB kiwipom73
  • Score: 4

1:44am Mon 5 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

proud burnley lad wrote:
as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha
You must be THE most THICKEST person EVER to post on this site. And we've had some tools on here, all from Burnley of course. You really are a gobshite. Shouldn't you be on your sister about now? You don't want your dad to get there first, do you? Or you'll end up with sloppy seconds!

Burnley people: Keeping it in the family since year dot!
[quote][p][bold]proud burnley lad[/bold] wrote: as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha[/p][/quote]You must be THE most THICKEST person EVER to post on this site. And we've had some tools on here, all from Burnley of course. You really are a gobshite. Shouldn't you be on your sister about now? You don't want your dad to get there first, do you? Or you'll end up with sloppy seconds! Burnley people: Keeping it in the family since year dot! Stone Island:
  • Score: 2

2:10am Mon 5 Nov 12

ronnie clayton says...

one more season wrote:
Surely if we have defensive problems thats down to Hendry, so get rid of him.Who the hell wants him at our once proud football club anyway.
Agree about Hendry being of no use to us particularly at his wages, he came in as the '"defensive coach" but in reality was Keans chaffeur , they lived close together as we all know Kean lost his licence (drink driving) so weeks after Hendry was on SKY sports saying how the majority of Rovers fans were behind Kean (blatant lie) he got his job with Rovers.
We owe Hendry nothing he walked out on us to join Rangers under disgraceful circumstances, but apart from that surely BERG will sort out the defense from now on ,and that 8,000 pounds a week Hendry gets could pay for a couple of proper fitness coaches,get these lads fit , and have money left over, this 1 hours of training a day has to stop , look at the Italians, they have double sessions every day , train 2 hours lunch then train 2 hours , Rovers breakfast train 1 hour lunch and go home !
[quote][p][bold]one more season[/bold] wrote: Surely if we have defensive problems thats down to Hendry, so get rid of him.Who the hell wants him at our once proud football club anyway.[/p][/quote]Agree about Hendry being of no use to us particularly at his wages, he came in as the '"defensive coach" but in reality was Keans chaffeur , they lived close together as we all know Kean lost his licence (drink driving) so weeks after Hendry was on SKY sports saying how the majority of Rovers fans were behind Kean (blatant lie) he got his job with Rovers. We owe Hendry nothing he walked out on us to join Rangers under disgraceful circumstances, but apart from that surely BERG will sort out the defense from now on ,and that 8,000 pounds a week Hendry gets could pay for a couple of proper fitness coaches,get these lads fit , and have money left over, this 1 hours of training a day has to stop , look at the Italians, they have double sessions every day , train 2 hours lunch then train 2 hours , Rovers breakfast train 1 hour lunch and go home ! ronnie clayton
  • Score: 2

2:10am Mon 5 Nov 12

ronnie clayton says...

one more season wrote:
Surely if we have defensive problems thats down to Hendry, so get rid of him.Who the hell wants him at our once proud football club anyway.
Agree about Hendry being of no use to us particularly at his wages, he came in as the '"defensive coach" but in reality was Keans chaffeur , they lived close together as we all know Kean lost his licence (drink driving) so weeks after Hendry was on SKY sports saying how the majority of Rovers fans were behind Kean (blatant lie) he got his job with Rovers.
We owe Hendry nothing he walked out on us to join Rangers under disgraceful circumstances, but apart from that surely BERG will sort out the defense from now on ,and that 8,000 pounds a week Hendry gets could pay for a couple of proper fitness coaches,get these lads fit , and have money left over, this 1 hours of training a day has to stop , look at the Italians, they have double sessions every day , train 2 hours lunch then train 2 hours , Rovers breakfast train 1 hour lunch and go home !
[quote][p][bold]one more season[/bold] wrote: Surely if we have defensive problems thats down to Hendry, so get rid of him.Who the hell wants him at our once proud football club anyway.[/p][/quote]Agree about Hendry being of no use to us particularly at his wages, he came in as the '"defensive coach" but in reality was Keans chaffeur , they lived close together as we all know Kean lost his licence (drink driving) so weeks after Hendry was on SKY sports saying how the majority of Rovers fans were behind Kean (blatant lie) he got his job with Rovers. We owe Hendry nothing he walked out on us to join Rangers under disgraceful circumstances, but apart from that surely BERG will sort out the defense from now on ,and that 8,000 pounds a week Hendry gets could pay for a couple of proper fitness coaches,get these lads fit , and have money left over, this 1 hours of training a day has to stop , look at the Italians, they have double sessions every day , train 2 hours lunch then train 2 hours , Rovers breakfast train 1 hour lunch and go home ! ronnie clayton
  • Score: 2

2:16am Mon 5 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

rovertezza wrote:
Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.
Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes.
[quote][p][bold]rovertezza[/bold] wrote: Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.[/p][/quote]Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes. Stone Island:
  • Score: 4

2:29am Mon 5 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

proud burnley lad wrote:
as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha
sad...but true. How much have agents made out of Blackburn Rovers FC in the last two years? How much next year...and the year after that?? How much in fact until all the parachute payments are exhausted and clubs come knocking for money that is owed to them?? What happens when players don't get paid?? Well...certain individuals will be sunning themselves on foreign soil with big content smiles on their faces....many of them Scottish!! Blackburn Rovers and the training base could then be a thing of the past....and everyone just stood by (including the PL) and let them do it. The "dream" that Jack built...disappearing by the day as Rovers plummet down the league!!
[quote][p][bold]proud burnley lad[/bold] wrote: as they knocked on pompeys door last season what did they tell um....... PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP not far off for them to knock on yours either haha cant wait it just seems to be getting better UTMC look forward to derby day v preston lads haha[/p][/quote]sad...but true. How much have agents made out of Blackburn Rovers FC in the last two years? How much next year...and the year after that?? How much in fact until all the parachute payments are exhausted and clubs come knocking for money that is owed to them?? What happens when players don't get paid?? Well...certain individuals will be sunning themselves on foreign soil with big content smiles on their faces....many of them Scottish!! Blackburn Rovers and the training base could then be a thing of the past....and everyone just stood by (including the PL) and let them do it. The "dream" that Jack built...disappearing by the day as Rovers plummet down the league!! smellthecoffee
  • Score: 1

2:38am Mon 5 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Stone Island: wrote:
rovertezza wrote: Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.
Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes.
...and how much does his agent make each week out of that £30k a week?? - 15% is the going rate is it?? Times by how many free transfers from Portugal and Spain?? Some money being made by someone or some people. The agent fees on transfers alone could be just a drop in the ocean!! The "running" commission rates could be astronomical!
.
I believe there are probably more kick-backs off the pitch, than on it!
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Small wonder agents threaten legal action against "free speech" on here!!
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rovertezza[/bold] wrote: Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.[/p][/quote]Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes.[/p][/quote]...and how much does his agent make each week out of that £30k a week?? - 15% is the going rate is it?? Times by how many free transfers from Portugal and Spain?? Some money being made by someone or some people. The agent fees on transfers alone could be just a drop in the ocean!! The "running" commission rates could be astronomical! . I believe there are probably more kick-backs off the pitch, than on it! . Small wonder agents threaten legal action against "free speech" on here!! smellthecoffee
  • Score: 2

2:44am Mon 5 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
rovertezza wrote: Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.
Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes.
...and how much does his agent make each week out of that £30k a week?? - 15% is the going rate is it?? Times by how many free transfers from Portugal and Spain?? Some money being made by someone or some people. The agent fees on transfers alone could be just a drop in the ocean!! The "running" commission rates could be astronomical! . I believe there are probably more kick-backs off the pitch, than on it! . Small wonder agents threaten legal action against "free speech" on here!!
ALL THE TIME...THIS ONCE PROUD CLUB GETS RUN INTO THE GROUND!! IT'S A REAL MESS AND A FINANCIAL DISASTER...
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IF VENKY'S DO OWN THE CLUB - AND ARE HONOURABLE WITH IT - LET'S SEE THEM DEPOSIT A SIZEABLE CHUNK OF MONEY INTO AN INDEPENDENT BRITISH BANK ACCOUNT WITH ASSURANCES FOR THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE CLUB....
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rovertezza[/bold] wrote: Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.[/p][/quote]Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes.[/p][/quote]...and how much does his agent make each week out of that £30k a week?? - 15% is the going rate is it?? Times by how many free transfers from Portugal and Spain?? Some money being made by someone or some people. The agent fees on transfers alone could be just a drop in the ocean!! The "running" commission rates could be astronomical! . I believe there are probably more kick-backs off the pitch, than on it! . Small wonder agents threaten legal action against "free speech" on here!![/p][/quote]ALL THE TIME...THIS ONCE PROUD CLUB GETS RUN INTO THE GROUND!! IT'S A REAL MESS AND A FINANCIAL DISASTER... . IF VENKY'S DO OWN THE CLUB - AND ARE HONOURABLE WITH IT - LET'S SEE THEM DEPOSIT A SIZEABLE CHUNK OF MONEY INTO AN INDEPENDENT BRITISH BANK ACCOUNT WITH ASSURANCES FOR THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE CLUB.... smellthecoffee
  • Score: 0

2:54am Mon 5 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
rovertezza wrote: Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.
Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes.
...and how much does his agent make each week out of that £30k a week?? - 15% is the going rate is it?? Times by how many free transfers from Portugal and Spain?? Some money being made by someone or some people. The agent fees on transfers alone could be just a drop in the ocean!! The "running" commission rates could be astronomical! . I believe there are probably more kick-backs off the pitch, than on it! . Small wonder agents threaten legal action against "free speech" on here!!
ALL THE TIME...THIS ONCE PROUD CLUB GETS RUN INTO THE GROUND!! IT'S A REAL MESS AND A FINANCIAL DISASTER... . IF VENKY'S DO OWN THE CLUB - AND ARE HONOURABLE WITH IT - LET'S SEE THEM DEPOSIT A SIZEABLE CHUNK OF MONEY INTO AN INDEPENDENT BRITISH BANK ACCOUNT WITH ASSURANCES FOR THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE CLUB....
FAILING THAT...I WOULD URGE THE VENKY'S TO COME CLEAN ABOUT THEIR ROLE IN THIS BEFORE THEY LAND THEMSELVES IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!! WAS KEAN UNDER INSTRUCTIONS WHEN HE WENT TO PUNE?? OR WAS IT MORE THE OTHER WAY ROUND?? (JUDGING BY VENKATESH RAO'S PERFORMANCE DURING LAST SUMMER'S INTERVIEW I SUSPECT THE LATTER).
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rovertezza[/bold] wrote: Henning, ditch the 'lame and lazy' with Murphy 1st on your transfer list for January and get 'dunny' fit again as he, as 'old as he is' is a ball player and the only one you have at the moment !! Too much dead wood getting big bucks for no effort ! Be a good manager and not a 'puppet for the owners. You have some young creative players in the squad, use them.[/p][/quote]Murphy will be going NOWHERE in January. Shabby Minge, and that c**** Kean, gave that has - been a two year contract, worth CIRCA 30K per WEEK! Nobody in their right mind will offer him that kind of money, at his age. That's why he's here. Remember, he turned down PL clubs to sign for us. Why? The same can be said for Gomes.[/p][/quote]...and how much does his agent make each week out of that £30k a week?? - 15% is the going rate is it?? Times by how many free transfers from Portugal and Spain?? Some money being made by someone or some people. The agent fees on transfers alone could be just a drop in the ocean!! The "running" commission rates could be astronomical! . I believe there are probably more kick-backs off the pitch, than on it! . Small wonder agents threaten legal action against "free speech" on here!![/p][/quote]ALL THE TIME...THIS ONCE PROUD CLUB GETS RUN INTO THE GROUND!! IT'S A REAL MESS AND A FINANCIAL DISASTER... . IF VENKY'S DO OWN THE CLUB - AND ARE HONOURABLE WITH IT - LET'S SEE THEM DEPOSIT A SIZEABLE CHUNK OF MONEY INTO AN INDEPENDENT BRITISH BANK ACCOUNT WITH ASSURANCES FOR THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE CLUB....[/p][/quote]FAILING THAT...I WOULD URGE THE VENKY'S TO COME CLEAN ABOUT THEIR ROLE IN THIS BEFORE THEY LAND THEMSELVES IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!! WAS KEAN UNDER INSTRUCTIONS WHEN HE WENT TO PUNE?? OR WAS IT MORE THE OTHER WAY ROUND?? (JUDGING BY VENKATESH RAO'S PERFORMANCE DURING LAST SUMMER'S INTERVIEW I SUSPECT THE LATTER). smellthecoffee
  • Score: -2

8:25am Mon 5 Nov 12

owd nick says...

Probably the best thing that could have happened, a win may have papered over the cracks and given Berg a false impression, now he has a much better idea what he is dealing with.

Will be interesting to see what his team is for Tuesday as he seems to be giving fringe players an opportunity to prove themselves from the start.

Still playing badly, still in the top 6.
Probably the best thing that could have happened, a win may have papered over the cracks and given Berg a false impression, now he has a much better idea what he is dealing with. Will be interesting to see what his team is for Tuesday as he seems to be giving fringe players an opportunity to prove themselves from the start. Still playing badly, still in the top 6. owd nick
  • Score: 3

9:26am Mon 5 Nov 12

Rovers 1495 says...

srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
No sh+t Sherlock.

Shocking performance.

I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.
History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?
Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments.
I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now.
I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.
I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.
They can take it out of the cash they got for Kalinic, or Samba, or Jones, or ...
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: No sh+t Sherlock. Shocking performance. I hope Venkys have their cheque book ready for January.[/p][/quote]History tells us that Venkeys won't splash the cash. Does anyone believe they have actually spent a penny of their own money ?[/p][/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we equal our own club record transfer fee, and smash the record for a fee paid by club outside the top tier, when we signed Rhodes?[/p][/quote]Yes we did srvp28, but I think it's obvious to all that the money came from the Hoilet / Samba sales, not to mention the parachute money. I think I am correct in thinking also that Venkeys only paid 4 mill deposit with the rest to be paid in installments. I haven't done the sums, but I think income from player sales still outweighs the expenditure on far inferior players, hence the squad we have now. I still think Venkeys are in pocket after promising us 5 mill each transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'm not questioning where the money came from, I was referring to your comment about history telling us that Venky's won't splash the cash. We may have only paid £4M up front for Rhodes but we're still obligated to pay £8M, therefore a further £4M will have to be set aside. As for the transfer fees received outnumbering those paid out, there were debts that had to be cleared too.[/p][/quote]They can take it out of the cash they got for Kalinic, or Samba, or Jones, or ... Rovers 1495
  • Score: 2

9:42am Mon 5 Nov 12

Rovers 1495 says...

noddymcleod wrote:
I am pleased most people wish Berg well, which is a reflexion of fond memories of him as a player.
The optimisitic parallel is Sparky, who had never managed a club side at any level. His first games with the squad he inherited from that dunce Ince were a disaster, but gradually he instilled some rigour into them, got them fit. It will take time and patience. The depressing aide of this is of course, Sparky had a supportive management of Williams and co. Berg has to put up with this numpty Shabby whose only plan is to shoot his mouth off and increase his profile back home.
Berg has a very delicate balance to make, only when he gets the team into shape can he take on Shabby who seems to have the ear of the Venkys. There has to be a eventual parting of the ways.
If - not at this rate - but if Rovers make it back in year one, I can see that loon Shabby and the Venkys staying on to milk the situation of being in the Premiership.
At least give Berg a break and see what he makes of the team.
I thought it was Ince who came after Sparky, and that Hughes inherited Souness' lot
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: I am pleased most people wish Berg well, which is a reflexion of fond memories of him as a player. The optimisitic parallel is Sparky, who had never managed a club side at any level. His first games with the squad he inherited from that dunce Ince were a disaster, but gradually he instilled some rigour into them, got them fit. It will take time and patience. The depressing aide of this is of course, Sparky had a supportive management of Williams and co. Berg has to put up with this numpty Shabby whose only plan is to shoot his mouth off and increase his profile back home. Berg has a very delicate balance to make, only when he gets the team into shape can he take on Shabby who seems to have the ear of the Venkys. There has to be a eventual parting of the ways. If - not at this rate - but if Rovers make it back in year one, I can see that loon Shabby and the Venkys staying on to milk the situation of being in the Premiership. At least give Berg a break and see what he makes of the team.[/p][/quote]I thought it was Ince who came after Sparky, and that Hughes inherited Souness' lot Rovers 1495
  • Score: 0

10:02am Mon 5 Nov 12

StLedge says...

jackmetickler wrote:
good luck Henning cos your gonna need it. Cant see why we gambled on an inexperienced manager at this or any level really when there were so many better options... but The Venkys know best eh Its their money but its our club and I for one will give you a month to sort this shower out.... a month... cos we know who we got then... and you had better no lose to those inbreds or you will begin to know what SK felt like. One month
Shut up you tit!!
[quote][p][bold]jackmetickler[/bold] wrote: good luck Henning cos your gonna need it. Cant see why we gambled on an inexperienced manager at this or any level really when there were so many better options... but The Venkys know best eh Its their money but its our club and I for one will give you a month to sort this shower out.... a month... cos we know who we got then... and you had better no lose to those inbreds or you will begin to know what SK felt like. One month[/p][/quote]Shut up you tit!! StLedge
  • Score: 0

10:19am Mon 5 Nov 12

keithnewton2 says...

With venkys, shebby, anderson and hendry still there, berg is the only bright light in a very dark place.

He's the only hope at the moment in what has become a sad shambles of a club. He's an ex Rover with some club loyalty and a mind of his own so get behind him 100%.

It wont happen overnight but he might just sort out the mess and get us back where we belong.
With venkys, shebby, anderson and hendry still there, berg is the only bright light in a very dark place. He's the only hope at the moment in what has become a sad shambles of a club. He's an ex Rover with some club loyalty and a mind of his own so get behind him 100%. It wont happen overnight but he might just sort out the mess and get us back where we belong. keithnewton2
  • Score: 2

10:34am Mon 5 Nov 12

StLedge says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
kenbro wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...
You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.
Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves
As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....
Is that you Vinjay?!
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we were very poor - again. At least Berg can now see the dead wood that he has been lumbered with. Good teams are not built overnight. It will take a year or two for any manager to create a decent squad starting from the one we have. It took 2 years to sink to where we are now so have patience. As for you smelly, you are taking over these forums with your continual argumentative, negative rants. We have all heard it and reheard it from you. Some reasoned contributors have probably given up coming on these forums because of people like you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are becoming "ad nauseum". Give it a rest...[/p][/quote]You scared everyone is finally finding out the truth??? Where's another of your alter ego's...Morst?? Not seen him for a while. That particular account was very productive in getting rid of Big Sam wasn't it??!! What's up?? Could Sam not be trusted with your little plan?? But of course...he actually had a decent management record to protect...unlike your desperate new recruits...one of which had barely any footballing credibility whatsoever and the other, a failed manager and TV pundit from Norway. Isn't it funny how Kean called BIG SAM a crook!! The ultimate irony.[/p][/quote]Smell, "irony" is that you by your own admission stopped attending games at Ewood pre Venkeys days when Allardyce was manager....the fact is you moan and complian about anything or anyone.....obviously youve got mentalheth problems and I think we should all treat you with kidgloves[/p][/quote]As you know I went to games (consistently since 1979) up until Big Sam was sacked. I have not been back since (despite even having the offer of free tickets whenever I want them). I will not invest any time or money in this regime. You can call me names - to attempt to discredit all I say - but ultimately you know I'm right. . A quick look at the situation Rovers' were in (before they unceremoniously sacked Sam) to where they are now is all the evidence needed to prove that I was right and you were WRONG!! . Funny how all these different and NUMEROUS accounts get very angry when I criticize a certain agency or it's particular owner.....[/p][/quote]Is that you Vinjay?! StLedge
  • Score: 1

10:48am Mon 5 Nov 12

Rovers75 says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
I am pleased most people wish Berg well, which is a reflexion of fond memories of him as a player.
The optimisitic parallel is Sparky, who had never managed a club side at any level. His first games with the squad he inherited from that dunce Ince were a disaster, but gradually he instilled some rigour into them, got them fit. It will take time and patience. The depressing aide of this is of course, Sparky had a supportive management of Williams and co. Berg has to put up with this numpty Shabby whose only plan is to shoot his mouth off and increase his profile back home.
Berg has a very delicate balance to make, only when he gets the team into shape can he take on Shabby who seems to have the ear of the Venkys. There has to be a eventual parting of the ways.
If - not at this rate - but if Rovers make it back in year one, I can see that loon Shabby and the Venkys staying on to milk the situation of being in the Premiership.
At least give Berg a break and see what he makes of the team.
I thought it was Ince who came after Sparky, and that Hughes inherited Souness' lot
it was
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: I am pleased most people wish Berg well, which is a reflexion of fond memories of him as a player. The optimisitic parallel is Sparky, who had never managed a club side at any level. His first games with the squad he inherited from that dunce Ince were a disaster, but gradually he instilled some rigour into them, got them fit. It will take time and patience. The depressing aide of this is of course, Sparky had a supportive management of Williams and co. Berg has to put up with this numpty Shabby whose only plan is to shoot his mouth off and increase his profile back home. Berg has a very delicate balance to make, only when he gets the team into shape can he take on Shabby who seems to have the ear of the Venkys. There has to be a eventual parting of the ways. If - not at this rate - but if Rovers make it back in year one, I can see that loon Shabby and the Venkys staying on to milk the situation of being in the Premiership. At least give Berg a break and see what he makes of the team.[/p][/quote]I thought it was Ince who came after Sparky, and that Hughes inherited Souness' lot[/p][/quote]it was Rovers75
  • Score: 0

11:50am Mon 5 Nov 12

French Rover says...

77'sss wrote:
Isn't it time we give a few of our squad players a go in the team and it might just give a kick up the backside to some of our non performing players
How about this for a line up
Jake kean,,, Bruno Ribiero, Adam Henley,Nuno Henrique,Martin Olsson
Paulo Jorge ,,Diogo rosado,,Rahim Hanley,,Fabio Nunes
Jordan Rhodes, Ruben Rochina
Give them 3 games then take stock of the situation
We haven't played well in any games
So why not give em a chance
agreed but its got to be positive and constructive change for the better and not just change for changes sake. After the performances (or lack of) that I saw at Palace then my team for Tuedsay would be:
Robbo (terrible kicking but some good saves)
Henley (deserves another chance at RB)
Dann (did ok mostly)
Givet (Need him fit and back in as Hanley was abysmal)
Olsson (Markus) (Martin is not remotely interested)
Dunn (Murphy should never wear the shirt or the captains armband again)
Pederson (got taken off when he was playing quite well?)
Formica (Good when he came on)
Rochina (Superb when he came on - even the Palace fans thought he was our best player)
Rhodes (he never received one pass to run onto and we made him look ordinary - but he is still full of goals if we play to him)
Subs:
Nunes (Rhodes surely needs him to play off soon)
Etuhu (looked off the pace but not terrible)
Simon (looked fast and dangerous when he came on)
Kazim-Richards (Hopeless)
Riberio
Kean
Olsson (Martin)

After such a shocking display at Palace then Berg can surely help sort out a more balanced and effective team for the Huddersfield game. Go to learn to play to/feed Jordan Rhodes - he will get us goals. Probably needs someone like Rochina or Formica closer to him or even Nuno Gomes. Still sixth even after saturday so there is still a good platform to build from for Berg. Hope we stuff the Terriers for Jordan's sake!
[quote][p][bold]77'sss[/bold] wrote: Isn't it time we give a few of our squad players a go in the team and it might just give a kick up the backside to some of our non performing players How about this for a line up Jake kean,,, Bruno Ribiero, Adam Henley,Nuno Henrique,Martin Olsson Paulo Jorge ,,Diogo rosado,,Rahim Hanley,,Fabio Nunes Jordan Rhodes, Ruben Rochina Give them 3 games then take stock of the situation We haven't played well in any games So why not give em a chance[/p][/quote]agreed but its got to be positive and constructive change for the better and not just change for changes sake. After the performances (or lack of) that I saw at Palace then my team for Tuedsay would be: Robbo (terrible kicking but some good saves) Henley (deserves another chance at RB) Dann (did ok mostly) Givet (Need him fit and back in as Hanley was abysmal) Olsson (Markus) (Martin is not remotely interested) Dunn (Murphy should never wear the shirt or the captains armband again) Pederson (got taken off when he was playing quite well?) Formica (Good when he came on) Rochina (Superb when he came on - even the Palace fans thought he was our best player) Rhodes (he never received one pass to run onto and we made him look ordinary - but he is still full of goals if we play to him) Subs: Nunes (Rhodes surely needs him to play off soon) Etuhu (looked off the pace but not terrible) Simon (looked fast and dangerous when he came on) Kazim-Richards (Hopeless) Riberio Kean Olsson (Martin) After such a shocking display at Palace then Berg can surely help sort out a more balanced and effective team for the Huddersfield game. Go to learn to play to/feed Jordan Rhodes - he will get us goals. Probably needs someone like Rochina or Formica closer to him or even Nuno Gomes. Still sixth even after saturday so there is still a good platform to build from for Berg. Hope we stuff the Terriers for Jordan's sake! French Rover
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