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Victim’s cries were ignored in Accrington

A CARER who was mugged in the street said passers-by ignored her shouts for help, a court heard.

‘Large and powerful’ thug David Hindson, 33, had confronted petite Monica Cismaru as she walked home from work in the dark in Accrington town centre.

This week he was jailed for three-and-a-half years after admitting robbery and theft at Burnley Crown Court.

The hearing was told he had grabbed Miss Cismaru by the neck, demanded the phone she was speaking on and then stole her shoulder bag, containing her passport, bank cards and an iPhone.

Miss Cismaru, 39, who is from Romania, put up such a struggle her jacket ripped off.

The victim, who feared Hindson might be armed with a knife, told police she had shouted to passers-by as she was thrown about and robbed, but her cries for help had been ignored, adding to her upset.

The hearing was told the defendant, who had been abusing drugs since he was 11 and needed cash, had also felt the victim’s neck to see if she was wearing a chain, before making off with his haul.

Miss Cismaru’s iPhone was later found under a mattress at the defendant’s partner’s home, where he was living, Hindson, said to have had a cocktail of drink and drugs before he pounced, had then gone on to sneak into a house in the early hours of the next day and help himself to another mobile phone and handbag from the side of a mother who was sleeping.

The court heard Hindson had 32 offences on his record, including seven charges of possessing an offensive weapon, three of affray and four of assault.

Sarah Statham, prosecuting, said Miss Cismaru was walking through Accrington at 8.10pm on November 20.

She went past Hindson in Portland Street, where he was leaning against a wall. The victim, who was talking on her phone, then felt somebody grab her around the neck.

The prosecutor said: “She was absolutely terrified.”

Daniel King, for Hindson, said: “He was feeling depressed. He had no permanent accommodation and drink and drugs-related problems.”

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8:39pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Excluded again says...

Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty.

This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile?

Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing. Excluded again
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10:26pm Wed 30 Jan 13

buckoff says...

Excluded again wrote:
Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty.

This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile?

Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.[/p][/quote]How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there? buckoff
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11:00pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Info-warrior says...

Excluded again wrote:
Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty.

This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile?

Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
I remember when they said we need CCTV because of street crime. Its cost us tax payers quite a few bob but it hasn't deterred this moronic scumbag from attacking this innocent member of the public going about her business. So you have got to ask have they replaced the bobby on the street corner successfully.? NO

Fragmentation. People or sheeple have become so fragmented as a society its no longer a done thing to get involved in others troubles. If its not going to spoil the Xfactor or Jeremy Kyle then they don't get involved. Thats the society that has grown in this matrix of criminals from street muggings to the high flying banksters CRIME as took over the world and nobody is bothered because it hasn't affected them."YET" and corries on.

We have gone from 9/11 to tyranny in about a decade and the main course is yet to come. People no care workers are being robbed in the streets for nothing more than the trinkets that the banksters robbed the world to give you.


David Hindson, 33, Euthanasia in some cases is a cost effective option for repeat offenders especially when they're attacking menbers of the public for an iphone. Three and a half years with his sort of criminal back ground is quite lenient or even laughable and acts as no deterrent to other would be street muggers. Lets hope he Police appeal the lenient sentence and get true justice for Miss Cismaru. Street muggings should hold a minimum sentence of eight years regardless of what they try to steal.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.[/p][/quote]I remember when they said we need CCTV because of street crime. Its cost us tax payers quite a few bob but it hasn't deterred this moronic scumbag from attacking this innocent member of the public going about her business. So you have got to ask have they replaced the bobby on the street corner successfully.? NO Fragmentation. People or sheeple have become so fragmented as a society its no longer a done thing to get involved in others troubles. If its not going to spoil the Xfactor or Jeremy Kyle then they don't get involved. Thats the society that has grown in this matrix of criminals from street muggings to the high flying banksters CRIME as took over the world and nobody is bothered because it hasn't affected them."YET" and corries on. We have gone from 9/11 to tyranny in about a decade and the main course is yet to come. People no care workers are being robbed in the streets for nothing more than the trinkets that the banksters robbed the world to give you. David Hindson, 33, Euthanasia in some cases is a cost effective option for repeat offenders especially when they're attacking menbers of the public for an iphone. Three and a half years with his sort of criminal back ground is quite lenient or even laughable and acts as no deterrent to other would be street muggers. Lets hope he Police appeal the lenient sentence and get true justice for Miss Cismaru. Street muggings should hold a minimum sentence of eight years regardless of what they try to steal. Info-warrior
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11:43pm Wed 30 Jan 13

useyourhead says...

Victims cries are being ignored everywhere, not just Accrington, mostly because they are not noticed anymore, because we have no true communities.
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How many crimes go undetected because we don't really really know the people we live next to, work with, employ, trust our children with, trust our money with blah blah. Too easy to just move than improve these days.
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My point being it is far more likely someone would intervene if they knew at least one of them, wading in between two unknowns is not for the fainthearted.
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The least they could do is ring 999 on their mobiles, well perhaps, if they have one.
Victims cries are being ignored everywhere, not just Accrington, mostly because they are not noticed anymore, because we have no true communities. - How many crimes go undetected because we don't really really know the people we live next to, work with, employ, trust our children with, trust our money with blah blah. Too easy to just move than improve these days. - My point being it is far more likely someone would intervene if they knew at least one of them, wading in between two unknowns is not for the fainthearted. - The least they could do is ring 999 on their mobiles, well perhaps, if they have one. useyourhead
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12:19am Thu 31 Jan 13

lmhjones says...

buckoff wrote:
Excluded again wrote:
Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty.

This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile?

Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?
so if it is a domestic you wouldnt get involved? nice
[quote][p][bold]buckoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.[/p][/quote]How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?[/p][/quote]so if it is a domestic you wouldnt get involved? nice lmhjones
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7:05am Thu 31 Jan 13

Excluded again says...

buckoff wrote:
Excluded again wrote:
Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty.

This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile?

Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?
Its attitudes like this that help crime thrive. I'll pass by on the other side of the street, not my problem. Why doesn't the government do 'something'?
[quote][p][bold]buckoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.[/p][/quote]How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?[/p][/quote]Its attitudes like this that help crime thrive. I'll pass by on the other side of the street, not my problem. Why doesn't the government do 'something'? Excluded again
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7:52am Thu 31 Jan 13

Info-warrior says...

Excluded again wrote:
buckoff wrote:
Excluded again wrote:
Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty.

This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile?

Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?
Its attitudes like this that help crime thrive. I'll pass by on the other side of the street, not my problem. Why doesn't the government do 'something'?
Why doesn't the government do 'something'?

Thats the society that has grown in this matrix of criminals from street muggings to the high flying banksters CRIME as took over the world And am affraid to inform Exluded Again somewhere in between all that bucket of vomit the goverment are busy watching their own backs. If you allow blatent criminaliity to thrive at the highest levels of society like it has "certainly since 9/11" then low level crime like street muggings become un-noticed or even as in this case publicly ignored.

There is many sheeple and there lambs walking blind and they all need to wake up and understand the world and their very own public safety is no longer a safe place, especially to carry things of value in. And its only a matter of time before the street muggers get wise to that and start coming through front doors. And remember the law (government) say they will lock you up if you decide to obtain reasonable protection for the lawless society we survive in. The world as changed and none of us are no longer safe.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.[/p][/quote]How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?[/p][/quote]Its attitudes like this that help crime thrive. I'll pass by on the other side of the street, not my problem. Why doesn't the government do 'something'?[/p][/quote]Why doesn't the government do 'something'? Thats the society that has grown in this matrix of criminals from street muggings to the high flying banksters CRIME as took over the world And am affraid to inform Exluded Again somewhere in between all that bucket of vomit the goverment are busy watching their own backs. If you allow blatent criminaliity to thrive at the highest levels of society like it has "certainly since 9/11" then low level crime like street muggings become un-noticed or even as in this case publicly ignored. There is many sheeple and there lambs walking blind and they all need to wake up and understand the world and their very own public safety is no longer a safe place, especially to carry things of value in. And its only a matter of time before the street muggers get wise to that and start coming through front doors. And remember the law (government) say they will lock you up if you decide to obtain reasonable protection for the lawless society we survive in. The world as changed and none of us are no longer safe. Info-warrior
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11:18am Thu 31 Jan 13

Rich Riley says...

buckoff wrote:
Excluded again wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?
So we have a large and powerful man in an altercation with a petite woman who by your words was in a distressed state shouting and screaming but nothing is untoward because she is shouting and screaming in her mother tongue. I find it amazing that you wouldn't want to come to the aid of this woman. But then you're probably a large and powerful man who has many altercations with petite women. Coward
[quote][p][bold]buckoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.[/p][/quote]How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?[/p][/quote]So we have a large and powerful man in an altercation with a petite woman who by your words was in a distressed state shouting and screaming but nothing is untoward because she is shouting and screaming in her mother tongue. I find it amazing that you wouldn't want to come to the aid of this woman. But then you're probably a large and powerful man who has many altercations with petite women. Coward Rich Riley
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5:28pm Thu 31 Jan 13

mys says...

Disgusting but not surprising one bit, the public don't want to get involved anymore, because they are frightened to,but someone could have at least phoned the police to help this poor lady,lets face it this is what the world has come to,this monster should have been given a longer sentence,it makes me laugh how scum like him always blame there behaviour on the drugs or the drink and the stupid judges fall for it every time.
Disgusting but not surprising one bit, the public don't want to get involved anymore, because they are frightened to,but someone could have at least phoned the police to help this poor lady,lets face it this is what the world has come to,this monster should have been given a longer sentence,it makes me laugh how scum like him always blame there behaviour on the drugs or the drink and the stupid judges fall for it every time. mys
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6:53am Fri 1 Feb 13

Fire Fly says...

buckoff wrote:
Excluded again wrote:
Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty.

This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile?

Crime thrives where good people do nothing.
How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?
And how can you suggest she shouted in her mother tongue....when you weren't there either??

I agree the passers by may have been female but i'd say its probably unlikely as it was 8.10pm on a Tuesday night, a lot of women wouldn't choose to be out on their own at that time in a town centre.

This was a large & powerful man according to the report & was attacking someone, sad to say but I think a lot of people would probably have opted out of intervening given his physic but as was said earlier they could have called 999 for help & helped her when he ran off.

Sounds like she put up a good struggle which was incredibly brave. Glad she didn't suffer any serious physical harm though I suspect the psychological effects will last for a long time to come.
[quote][p][bold]buckoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: Unless we are prepared to pay the massive taxes to have a police officer on every street, then we all have to take some responsibilty. This lady was being attacked and shouted for help from passers-by. No-one intervened. Could 2 or 3 of the passers-by not have got together to intervene? Or if you really were too embarassed to speak to one another how long would it take to dial 999 on your mobile? Crime thrives where good people do nothing.[/p][/quote]How can you say that when you wasn't there she was from Romania. I would imagine the poor woman in a distressed state shouted and screamed in her mother tongue. Maybe the people were female or maybe it looked like a domestic. You go on as if you was there?[/p][/quote]And how can you suggest she shouted in her mother tongue....when you weren't there either?? I agree the passers by may have been female but i'd say its probably unlikely as it was 8.10pm on a Tuesday night, a lot of women wouldn't choose to be out on their own at that time in a town centre. This was a large & powerful man according to the report & was attacking someone, sad to say but I think a lot of people would probably have opted out of intervening given his physic but as was said earlier they could have called 999 for help & helped her when he ran off. Sounds like she put up a good struggle which was incredibly brave. Glad she didn't suffer any serious physical harm though I suspect the psychological effects will last for a long time to come. Fire Fly
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