‘Nazi jibe’ complaint after Pendle councillor clash

Lyle Davy

Lyle Davy

First published in News

A TEENAGE councillor has accused an East Lancashire political veteran of comparing the actions of Pendle Tories to ‘Nazi Germany’ or ‘Stalinist Russia’.

Eighteen-year-old Conservative Lyle Davy has lodged a formal complaint over Liberal Democrat counclllor David Whipp’s description of their coalition partners on Pendle Council.

He has labelled Coun Whipp’s attack, said to have been made during a West Craven area committee meeting, as ‘deeply, deeply offensive and disgusting’.

But Coun Whipp defended his comments, made after the Tories took up all the places on a town centre improvement grants panel.

The Craven ward councillor, who also represents the district on Lancashire County Council, could now face a conduct investigation by the borough’s deputy chief executive, Philip Mousdale. In a letter to Mr Mousdale, Coun Davy, who represents the neighbouring Coates ward in Barnoldswick, said Coun Whipp had failed to ‘treat people with respect’ in accordance with the authority’s code of conduct.

Coun Davy added: “What Coun Whipp said was deeply, deeply offensive and disgusting. I am a new member to this council, and expected that we would be treated with some degree of respect.

“Being compared to a Nazi was very offensive. To compare me and my colleagues to a party who promoted fascism, were anti-Semitic, believed in racial hierarchy and slaughtered Jews and political opponents is beyond out of order.”

Coun Morris Horsfield said the comments came after Coun Davy and fellow-Tory councillor Jennifer Purcell were nominated alongside two other Conservatives to sit on a town centre improvement grants body.

“He did say we were like Nazis. It is going too far and if you’ve made a mistake like that then you should just apologise,” said Coun Horsfield, an Earby Conservative.

But Coun Whipp said the Conservatives’ attitude towards the grants panel was against the spirit of the area committee, which the Lib Dems controlled until the last borough elections.

He said: “I was determined at the very least that we had some transparency and I commented that the secret single-party panel would not be out of place in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.”

Coun Whipp was later given a place on the grants panel after Coun Purcell stepped down.

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5:12pm Wed 16 Jul 14

TONY WALES says...

You are better calling them "DONKEY'S.
From what I read about them most of them seem to be corrupt, and on the fiddle.
Really the standard of some of them is on a level of the corrupt political people of Pakistan, which is known as one of the most corrupt countries of the world.
But since some of them come from that country is not really surprising.
For example misusing the voting system, fiddling the expenses, and accepting large brown envelopes to get items passed in the voting in the town hall.
Check the number of criminal cases against your fellow councillors in the last 10 years.
A better example of corrupt people you will not find.
You are better calling them "DONKEY'S. From what I read about them most of them seem to be corrupt, and on the fiddle. Really the standard of some of them is on a level of the corrupt political people of Pakistan, which is known as one of the most corrupt countries of the world. But since some of them come from that country is not really surprising. For example misusing the voting system, fiddling the expenses, and accepting large brown envelopes to get items passed in the voting in the town hall. Check the number of criminal cases against your fellow councillors in the last 10 years. A better example of corrupt people you will not find. TONY WALES
  • Score: 2

5:21pm Wed 16 Jul 14

supertrooper says...

Yawn....
Yawn.... supertrooper
  • Score: 2

5:54pm Wed 16 Jul 14

will12 says...

OMG what a wimp, that man said something naughty and I'm going to tell my mummy !!!

The Political Elite, albeit, Local or National are a set of pompous pc world zombies, grow a pair and remember the old saying "sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me".
OMG what a wimp, that man said something naughty and I'm going to tell my mummy !!! The Political Elite, albeit, Local or National are a set of pompous pc world zombies, grow a pair and remember the old saying "sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me". will12
  • Score: 2

7:02pm Wed 16 Jul 14

tonygreaves says...

If Councillor Davey wants to be taken seriously he should grow up a bit and stop posing as a pompous teenage twit! And he should think before he sticks up his hand to vote. Or did Paul White write this press release?

Tony Greaves
If Councillor Davey wants to be taken seriously he should grow up a bit and stop posing as a pompous teenage twit! And he should think before he sticks up his hand to vote. Or did Paul White write this press release? Tony Greaves tonygreaves
  • Score: 6

7:43pm Wed 16 Jul 14

glossopkid says...

TONY WALES wrote:
You are better calling them "DONKEY'S.
From what I read about them most of them seem to be corrupt, and on the fiddle.
Really the standard of some of them is on a level of the corrupt political people of Pakistan, which is known as one of the most corrupt countries of the world.
But since some of them come from that country is not really surprising.
For example misusing the voting system, fiddling the expenses, and accepting large brown envelopes to get items passed in the voting in the town hall.
Check the number of criminal cases against your fellow councillors in the last 10 years.
A better example of corrupt people you will not find.
Is Clive Grunshaw from Pakistan, as he's fiddled his expenses twice.????
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: You are better calling them "DONKEY'S. From what I read about them most of them seem to be corrupt, and on the fiddle. Really the standard of some of them is on a level of the corrupt political people of Pakistan, which is known as one of the most corrupt countries of the world. But since some of them come from that country is not really surprising. For example misusing the voting system, fiddling the expenses, and accepting large brown envelopes to get items passed in the voting in the town hall. Check the number of criminal cases against your fellow councillors in the last 10 years. A better example of corrupt people you will not find.[/p][/quote]Is Clive Grunshaw from Pakistan, as he's fiddled his expenses twice.???? glossopkid
  • Score: 6

8:05pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Outcry says...

It seems the 'love in' is over. Some might say, would say, there are many reasons to level such accusations at some members of the Tory party... its treatment of disabled people being just one reason.. However, doesn't this say a great deal about how unworkable the ruling coalition is between tories and liedems in Pendle? And what further consequences will there be for people in the area if they are unable to put their egos aside and put their constituents first?
It seems the 'love in' is over. Some might say, would say, there are many reasons to level such accusations at some members of the Tory party... its treatment of disabled people being just one reason.. However, doesn't this say a great deal about how unworkable the ruling coalition is between tories and liedems in Pendle? And what further consequences will there be for people in the area if they are unable to put their egos aside and put their constituents first? Outcry
  • Score: 2

9:39pm Wed 16 Jul 14

The Seagull has landed says...

Whinging snivelling spotty little weasel.

Why don't you cry about it and see if that helps.
Whinging snivelling spotty little weasel. Why don't you cry about it and see if that helps. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: -2

7:08am Thu 17 Jul 14

jenkinsroy says...

Nazi jibe’
Complaint after Pendle councillor clash.
Do some homework first before you go crying to the head teacher?
O.K. get to know what they how they fiddle the books and claim
Expenses and all the over thing they do O.K.
Then go to your party head and show him your facts?
Not word of mouth this will help you in the long run.
Remember eye open mouth shut pen and paper ready
Not the P.C. has they can delete your finding O.K.
Now you have the facts go for it but remember?
This your job is on the line here!
You need to find someone you can trust to help you
Put your case right. Also watch your back now you have been judged
And you are now called Mr Cry baby not a good start to you career Is it?
You will be O.K mummy will help you with your homework?
Nazi jibe’ Complaint after Pendle councillor clash. Do some homework first before you go crying to the head teacher? O.K. get to know what they how they fiddle the books and claim Expenses and all the over thing they do O.K. Then go to your party head and show him your facts? Not word of mouth this will help you in the long run. Remember eye open mouth shut pen and paper ready Not the P.C. has they can delete your finding O.K. Now you have the facts go for it but remember? This your job is on the line here! You need to find someone you can trust to help you Put your case right. Also watch your back now you have been judged And you are now called Mr Cry baby not a good start to you career Is it? You will be O.K mummy will help you with your homework? jenkinsroy
  • Score: -3

12:43pm Thu 17 Jul 14

trajan says...

The lot of you pack it in and stop wasting my council tax money.
The lot of you pack it in and stop wasting my council tax money. trajan
  • Score: 2

4:33pm Thu 17 Jul 14

coates warder says...

has the teenager been to all the meetings since he got lucky ,,,im got into power down coates. quite a few people have tried getting hold of him with problems and no reply. too busy with his toys mabye
has the teenager been to all the meetings since he got lucky ,,,im got into power down coates. quite a few people have tried getting hold of him with problems and no reply. too busy with his toys mabye coates warder
  • Score: 0

9:49pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Snowy-D says...

Well he should know all about Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia they had the same ideas as the conservative party push on us, keep the poor people down and make rich even richer.
Well he should know all about Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia they had the same ideas as the conservative party push on us, keep the poor people down and make rich even richer. Snowy-D
  • Score: 0

9:59pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Pendlesider says...

Coun Whipp said: “.. I commented that the secret single-party panel would not be out of place in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.”
. Coun Whipp was later given a place on the grants panel after Coun Purcell stepped down.
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so coun whipp got his seat eventually anyway. looks like he did a Mussolini not Stalin? In March 1919, Mussolini formed the Fascist Party, galvanising support of the unemployed & organised them into armed squads known as Black Shirts, who terrorised their political opponents. In 1921, the Fascist Party was invited to join the coalition government.
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In 1939 Mussolini formed the Pact of Steel with the Germans. Influenced by Hitler, Mussolini began to introduce anti-Jewish legislation in Italy. He declared war on Britain AND France in June 1940 but this exposed Italian military weakness and Mussolini & co were stuffed with a series of defeats in North and East Africa and the Balkans. He was captured by Italian partisans and shot on 28 April 1945.
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a bit of history there for the benefit of both coun whipp and coun Davy.
Coun Whipp said: “.. I commented that the secret single-party panel would not be out of place in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.” . Coun Whipp was later given a place on the grants panel after Coun Purcell stepped down. . so coun whipp got his seat eventually anyway. looks like he did a Mussolini not Stalin? In March 1919, Mussolini formed the Fascist Party, galvanising support of the unemployed & organised them into armed squads known as Black Shirts, who terrorised their political opponents. In 1921, the Fascist Party was invited to join the coalition government. . In 1939 Mussolini formed the Pact of Steel with the Germans. Influenced by Hitler, Mussolini began to introduce anti-Jewish legislation in Italy. He declared war on Britain AND France in June 1940 but this exposed Italian military weakness and Mussolini & co were stuffed with a series of defeats in North and East Africa and the Balkans. He was captured by Italian partisans and shot on 28 April 1945. . a bit of history there for the benefit of both coun whipp and coun Davy. Pendlesider
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