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Charity 'chuggers' banned from Burnley town centre for five days-a-week

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CHARITY collectors have been banned from operating in Burnley town centre for five days each week.

Under a new agreement the collectors, known as chuggers, will only be allowed to work on Tuesday and Thursday, and in much reduced numbers.

The move comes after complaints from town centre shoppers and traders about the number operating in the town and the negative impact they are said to have been having.

Some shoppers had stopped using St James Street, the main town centre street, because they were being repeatedly hassled by chuggers, traders claimed.

The ban has been welcomed by councillors and the Chamber of Trade, but one charity worker in the town said they should be banned completely.

Coun Charlie Briggs, the leader of Burnley Council, said: “Our first concern has been for shoppers and others using the town centre.

“We know a number of shoppers had started to avoid parts of St James Street, having been repeatedly approached by charity collectors operating in the area in the past.

“The council has proactively tackled this issue and come to this new agreement which will go a long way to deal with those issues.

“We’ve tried to find a balance between allowing charities to raise cash for worthy causes while at the same time preventing collectors being seen as a nuisance.”

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The agreement has been drawn up with the help of the Public Fund Raising Association (PFRA), which has helped 41 other councils across the country draw up similar agreements, and is in talks with a further 18.

The agreement is voluntary but draws support from major charities working in the area.

Brian Hobbs, president of Burnley’s Chamber of Trade, said: “We have supported this agreement, we don’t mind them being in the town centre but having some control over them will be a big help.

“It will calm it down a bit, there is no legal way to stop them collecting so to have an agreement, which they support as well, is a great step in the right direction.”

As well as limiting chuggers to just two days a week, the agreement also has a clear set of guidelines for collectors to work within.

As part of the agreement there will be a maximum of two collectors operating in any one area and they will be required to wear formal ID badges and follow a code of conduct.

Peter Quinn, the chairman of Burnley-based volunteer group Charity Aid, said the agreement did not go far enough, and chuggers should be banned completely.

He said: “ A lot of people don’t realise that a lot of the money goes to the chuggers and the company they work for, not the charity itself.

“Money is being siphoned off which is intended for good causes. I think the charities feel they are competing for a street presence, but I don’t believe chuggers do any good for charities.

“There is no need for it.”

In Lancashire Chorley Council were the first to move to ban chuggers, but it is believed that Blackburn and Preston are now in talks with the PFRA to come to an agreement.

Dr Toby Ganley, the PFRA’s head of policy, said: “Charities rely on the voluntary support of the public to be able to provide services for their beneficiaries. But to secure this support, charities need to be able to ask for the public for donations.

“This agreement with Burnley balances the duty of charities, on behalf of their beneficiaries, to ask people for their support, with the rights of the public not to be put under undue pressure to give.”

Homeless charity Shelter was approached but refused to comment.

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1:03pm Tue 21 Feb 12

MikeBFC says...

About time, any one that gives money to them should have the common sense to work out how they can afford to employ ten people to stand in the town centre 7 days a week. It should be approached the same way as anti social behavior as they generally dont react well when you tell them you dont want to give them money. I feel sorry for the people that are genuine charity collectors.
About time, any one that gives money to them should have the common sense to work out how they can afford to employ ten people to stand in the town centre 7 days a week. It should be approached the same way as anti social behavior as they generally dont react well when you tell them you dont want to give them money. I feel sorry for the people that are genuine charity collectors. MikeBFC
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1:21pm Tue 21 Feb 12

Malthus says...

Good news for Burnley. Bad news for the other towns in the area.
Good news for Burnley. Bad news for the other towns in the area. Malthus
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1:22pm Tue 21 Feb 12

chris283 says...

charity begins at home
charity begins at home chris283
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1:32pm Tue 21 Feb 12

RAyzer says...

good...we give enough to charity through are governments,sick of seeing dying Africans while there governments buy weapons and live high life....look after are own first for a change..OAPs dying,kids being neglected here,,get our own country in order first!!
good...we give enough to charity through are governments,sick of seeing dying Africans while there governments buy weapons and live high life....look after are own first for a change..OAPs dying,kids being neglected here,,get our own country in order first!! RAyzer
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1:33pm Tue 21 Feb 12

guinless says...

this needs to be done in blackburn and darwen town centres these chuggers are a pain in the a#s#!!
this needs to be done in blackburn and darwen town centres these chuggers are a pain in the a#s#!! guinless
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1:45pm Tue 21 Feb 12

Your ferret stinks says...

chris283 wrote:
charity begins at home
Quite right!

It used to be that people would dig deep to help out other folks that have fallen on hard times until the so called charities realised just how much cash was involved, now you can't walk through any shopping centre without being accosted and having a money box waved in your face. Just look at the sums involved and you get the picture pretty quick.
One night on telly and childeren in need raised 13 million quid, its really no wonder everyone wants to come to this country thinking the streets are paved with gold because thats the impression we send out!
In future stick your charity box where the sun dont shine cos any spare change i have (if there is such a thing) is going in the lads money box!
[quote][p][bold]chris283[/bold] wrote: charity begins at home[/p][/quote]Quite right! It used to be that people would dig deep to help out other folks that have fallen on hard times until the so called charities realised just how much cash was involved, now you can't walk through any shopping centre without being accosted and having a money box waved in your face. Just look at the sums involved and you get the picture pretty quick. One night on telly and childeren in need raised 13 million quid, its really no wonder everyone wants to come to this country thinking the streets are paved with gold because thats the impression we send out! In future stick your charity box where the sun dont shine cos any spare change i have (if there is such a thing) is going in the lads money box! Your ferret stinks
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1:50pm Tue 21 Feb 12

TONY WALES says...

What about getting rid of the people who stand in town all day, trying to sell you Sky TV, change your gas/electric supplier, etc?
They should be made to rent/purchase an empty shop, and pay the council to occupy it.
Then if you wish to purchase the product, you go into their shop.
What about getting rid of the people who stand in town all day, trying to sell you Sky TV, change your gas/electric supplier, etc? They should be made to rent/purchase an empty shop, and pay the council to occupy it. Then if you wish to purchase the product, you go into their shop. TONY WALES
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4:07pm Tue 21 Feb 12

Cha'mone MF says...

TONY WALES wrote:
What about getting rid of the people who stand in town all day, trying to sell you Sky TV, change your gas/electric supplier, etc?
They should be made to rent/purchase an empty shop, and pay the council to occupy it.
Then if you wish to purchase the product, you go into their shop.
Couldn't agree more!
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: What about getting rid of the people who stand in town all day, trying to sell you Sky TV, change your gas/electric supplier, etc? They should be made to rent/purchase an empty shop, and pay the council to occupy it. Then if you wish to purchase the product, you go into their shop.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more! Cha'mone MF
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4:25pm Tue 21 Feb 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Disgusting chugging all over the place, thats why they chopped all them trees down at bull hill, to expose the chuggers so the could not hide and chugg eachother off, disgusting letting them do it in the town centre in the first place. I suppose there is no harm chugging in private, but they need to be stopped in public.
Disgusting chugging all over the place, thats why they chopped all them trees down at bull hill, to expose the chuggers so the could not hide and chugg eachother off, disgusting letting them do it in the town centre in the first place. I suppose there is no harm chugging in private, but they need to be stopped in public. Keep Darwen Green
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4:26pm Tue 21 Feb 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
What about getting rid of the people who stand in town all day, trying to sell you Sky TV, change your gas/electric supplier, etc?
They should be made to rent/purchase an empty shop, and pay the council to occupy it.
Then if you wish to purchase the product, you go into their shop.
Couldn't agree more!
Didn't there used to be a chugging shop on Darwen street? I think it got closed down.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: What about getting rid of the people who stand in town all day, trying to sell you Sky TV, change your gas/electric supplier, etc? They should be made to rent/purchase an empty shop, and pay the council to occupy it. Then if you wish to purchase the product, you go into their shop.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more![/p][/quote]Didn't there used to be a chugging shop on Darwen street? I think it got closed down. Keep Darwen Green
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4:50pm Tue 21 Feb 12

hunter3062 says...

always thought ghugging was to chug a few beers.and as for charities they went out of the window when they started trading as a business and paid staff. for crying out loud the stuff they sell is almost as high as new prices and in some cases are. BHF for example a donated second hand suite is dearer than a new one from argos,and a double bed £50 dearer than b and m trading.
always thought ghugging was to chug a few beers.and as for charities they went out of the window when they started trading as a business and paid staff. for crying out loud the stuff they sell is almost as high as new prices and in some cases are. BHF for example a donated second hand suite is dearer than a new one from argos,and a double bed £50 dearer than b and m trading. hunter3062
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4:48pm Wed 22 Feb 12

janie64 says...

I can't agree more!! I once worked for a charity shop, yes paid work but turned out to be against my better judgement. I found the stock overly-priced and as hunter3062 states, 'they went out the window when they started trading as a busiess....'.
I didn't work there long, moved on as it was hard hard sell all the time due to it trading as a business AND you had to meet targets plus I disagreed with how much is spent on shopfittings, etc. I still go in charity shops to have a nosey but don't buy much at all and see in a different light. I always used to think that if I was giving to charity I'd rather have something I can see for it (ie buying an item of clothing) and don't believe in just doling good money out to chuggers. I see for eg Primark items in charity shops at a more ridiculous price than what they would have been originally paid for new in the store!!!!
I can't agree more!! I once worked for a charity shop, yes paid work but turned out to be against my better judgement. I found the stock overly-priced and as hunter3062 states, 'they went out the window when they started trading as a busiess....'. I didn't work there long, moved on as it was hard hard sell all the time due to it trading as a business AND you had to meet targets plus I disagreed with how much is spent on shopfittings, etc. I still go in charity shops to have a nosey but don't buy much at all and see in a different light. I always used to think that if I was giving to charity I'd rather have something I can see for it (ie buying an item of clothing) and don't believe in just doling good money out to chuggers. I see for eg Primark items in charity shops at a more ridiculous price than what they would have been originally paid for new in the store!!!! janie64
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8:53pm Wed 22 Feb 12

RAyzer says...

charity begins at home....sick of cash going awol,about time we looked after our own
charity begins at home....sick of cash going awol,about time we looked after our own RAyzer
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