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Blackburn Rovers’ main sponsor in attack on Venky’s over ‘lack of leadership’

Lancashire Telegraph: BIG CONCERNS WEC Group’s group director Wayne Wild. BIG CONCERNS WEC Group’s group director Wayne Wild.

THE group director of Blackburn Rovers’ main sponsor has accused the club of a lack of leadership after calling for owners Venky’s to start communicating with supporters.

Wayne Wild, group director of the WEC Group, in Darwen, has told the Lancashire Telegraph of his frustrations that he has received no direct contact from Venky’s, despite writing a letter of concern to them six weeks ago.

Mr Wild, a Rovers fan for more than 30 years, admits he feels as though WEC are not being valued as clients and fears the negative publicity surrounding the club is having a direct impact on the company.

WEC, an engineering and fabrication company, is the main sponsor of the Darwen End stand and also have corporate hospitality at Ewood Park, with two tables in the Premier Suite, four directors box tickets, four stand tickets and a private box.

Mr Wild has been in contact with commercial manager Simon Williams for more than a month but, despite receiving a late offer on Friday of a meeting with the owners in London on Sunday, he is still waiting to have direct contact with Venky’s.

Mr Wild, said: “I don’t want to be treated like god, because we are not.

"We are a corporate sponsor and the owners have the authority and right to do what they see fit with the club.

“I don’t think they understand the issues it is causing, though.

"Blackburn Rovers Football Club is the heart and soul of the town.

"It has been for ever and certainly since they were in the Premier League.

“It creates employment for the town, the indirect business of people travelling to the games, and the sponsorship.

“I just feel if I can’t get a reply - as the only paying corporate sponsor - that underlines the frustrations that general supporters are having, because there is no direct contact.

“We feel not valued. As well as the business side I have offered to mediate between the fans and the owners.

"I feel there is a growing gap between the two. Maybe if they could talk to me, I could relay that message to the fans.”

In his letter to Venky’s chairman Mrs Desai, Mr Wild said the ‘current Ewood experience is not of a corporate entertainment environment’.

He expresses his concern about the disappearance of the old management structure, with most of the old board of directors having now left the club without replacements, and believes the uncertainty around the club is causing fans to turn on each other.

“One of my key issues is the lack of leadership at the top,” he said.

“I have no-one to contact. Steve Kean is reporting direct to the owners. It should be going through a board of directors.

“There is nobody there. I am having to go to the commercial department who then go to a representative of the owners.

"In terms of the running of the club on a day to day basis there is nobody there.

“Blackburn Rovers was a model of how to run a football club.

"The model was worked on over a number of years and that has systematically been wiped out over a short period.

“If they are not interested in talking to anyone the gulf will get wider.

"We need them to agree to say when they are going to put a solid management team here in Blackburn.

“It is not about the position of the team. It is the whole structure of the club.

"There is no leadership from the top down and fans are turning on fans.”

Mr Wild, whose WEC Group are in their fourth season of sponsoring Blackburn Rovers, has urged Venky’s to start communicating with supporters and insists that is needed before they have the unreserved support of the fans.

“I am willing to act as a mediator between the two,” said Mr Wild.

“I don’t agree with everything the protesters have been doing.

"I can understand it but I don’t agree with it all. They are just trying to get something done.

“If my key customer had sent an official letter in, I would have replied immediately. Six weeks down the line I have no form of official reply.

“What I am trying to achieve? I am trying to request some form of communication.

"If it is direct to me, then I can pass that back to the fans.

“Being a supporter is hard enough to take but paying for the privilege of sponsorship to be linked to this is both embarrassing and damaging to our company name and brand.”

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11:08am Tue 22 Nov 11

hawaii 5-0 says...

Enough said!
Enough said! hawaii 5-0
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11:10am Tue 22 Nov 11

madari says...

Madari the snake charmer says:

Confirmation of a pantomime team run by Clowns..Hahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
haha!!!!!!!
Madari the snake charmer says: Confirmation of a pantomime team run by Clowns..Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha haha!!!!!!! madari
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11:10am Tue 22 Nov 11

formerover says...

Surely this now proves how much they care
Surely this now proves how much they care formerover
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11:10am Tue 22 Nov 11

A Darener says...

So! Perhaps now the owners will start to listen. If it means the loss of valuable sponsorship money, (they can't get a shirt sponsor to pay anything). If WEC threaten to withdraw their sponsorship then things may start to happen. There is no way any other sponsor will come forward to donate monies to this bunch of, to put it politely, charlatans.
So! Perhaps now the owners will start to listen. If it means the loss of valuable sponsorship money, (they can't get a shirt sponsor to pay anything). If WEC threaten to withdraw their sponsorship then things may start to happen. There is no way any other sponsor will come forward to donate monies to this bunch of, to put it politely, charlatans. A Darener
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11:13am Tue 22 Nov 11

blueandwhitedynamite says...

This is really embarrassing now... a plea from our main sponsor to open dialogue?! Seriously what has become of our club?!

Steve Kean and the on pitch shambles he orchestrates week in week out aside, the whole and I mean every single part of our club is in disarray...what will it take for Venky's to realise? Or do they know what they are doing and simply just do not care?

I've been worried about the whole future of BRFC for months, but I get more worried by the day...
This is really embarrassing now... a plea from our main sponsor to open dialogue?! Seriously what has become of our club?! Steve Kean and the on pitch shambles he orchestrates week in week out aside, the whole and I mean every single part of our club is in disarray...what will it take for Venky's to realise? Or do they know what they are doing and simply just do not care? I've been worried about the whole future of BRFC for months, but I get more worried by the day... blueandwhitedynamite
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11:13am Tue 22 Nov 11

a_true_blue says...

Sorry Mr Wild
but you are being treated just like these indian con men treat everyone else. unless your name starts with the letter kean.
(your just money to them)..

con men venkys out
and clueless kean to...
Sorry Mr Wild but you are being treated just like these indian con men treat everyone else. unless your name starts with the letter kean. (your just money to them).. con men venkys out and clueless kean to... a_true_blue
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11:15am Tue 22 Nov 11

hawaii 5-0 says...

What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions?

When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview.

i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans.

When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3.

C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation?
What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions? When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview. i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans. When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3. C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation? hawaii 5-0
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11:17am Tue 22 Nov 11

a_true_blue says...

L E T and so must be getting donations from india?????????????
L E T and so must be getting donations from india????????????? a_true_blue
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11:19am Tue 22 Nov 11

kevh69 says...

This article does not surprise me at all.
I believe we couldn't attract a shirt sponsor this summer gone, and as a result had venkys on the shirt before getting the princes trust charity involved.
Lets be honest here, who would want to be associated with venkys, who had made us a laughing stock almost as soon as they took over the running of the club, maybe we could approach the comedy channel and have the keystone cops on the our shirts next year!
This article does not surprise me at all. I believe we couldn't attract a shirt sponsor this summer gone, and as a result had venkys on the shirt before getting the princes trust charity involved. Lets be honest here, who would want to be associated with venkys, who had made us a laughing stock almost as soon as they took over the running of the club, maybe we could approach the comedy channel and have the keystone cops on the our shirts next year! kevh69
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11:20am Tue 22 Nov 11

FredrikMG says...

Finally someone in the right position speaks out about this terrible nightmare!!
I cant wait to hear the clubs response to this.

KEAN OUT - VENKY'S OUT!!!
Finally someone in the right position speaks out about this terrible nightmare!! I cant wait to hear the clubs response to this. KEAN OUT - VENKY'S OUT!!! FredrikMG
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11:20am Tue 22 Nov 11

a_true_blue says...

what was the £43m mortgage for????
what was the £43m mortgage for???? a_true_blue
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11:23am Tue 22 Nov 11

Redbike says...

Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club.

It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild.

Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree.

Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.
Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please. Redbike
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11:35am Tue 22 Nov 11

the final countdown says...

These well thought out comments show the real plight we are in. When the major sponsor and a long standing supporter starts to question leadership, poor communication and states he is literally being ignored, we have an even bigger problem, than just the dreadful form and poor, out of its depth football management. Why would any business put money into the club as a sponsor with this distainful treatment?

We are rudderless on the way to relegation and potential financial melt down.

Its high time that the owners took the reponsibility of ownership seriously and started to show real leadership, recognise the issues, do something about them, start to communicate with supporters, listen to us and recognise the vital cash sponsors bring to the club. But most of all accept the football management isnt fit for purpose and isnt working and its time to bring in change, quickly, before its all too late.

I am weary of seeing my once proud club, that I have supported for decades being a laughing stock. If the owners cannt or wont act and assume their reponsibilities then its time to find someone who will. What is the point of owning a club and letting it fall apart......beats me.
These well thought out comments show the real plight we are in. When the major sponsor and a long standing supporter starts to question leadership, poor communication and states he is literally being ignored, we have an even bigger problem, than just the dreadful form and poor, out of its depth football management. Why would any business put money into the club as a sponsor with this distainful treatment? We are rudderless on the way to relegation and potential financial melt down. Its high time that the owners took the reponsibility of ownership seriously and started to show real leadership, recognise the issues, do something about them, start to communicate with supporters, listen to us and recognise the vital cash sponsors bring to the club. But most of all accept the football management isnt fit for purpose and isnt working and its time to bring in change, quickly, before its all too late. I am weary of seeing my once proud club, that I have supported for decades being a laughing stock. If the owners cannt or wont act and assume their reponsibilities then its time to find someone who will. What is the point of owning a club and letting it fall apart......beats me. the final countdown
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11:40am Tue 22 Nov 11

Rovers til I cry says...

Redbike wrote:
Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.
I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight.

Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine.
[quote][p][bold]Redbike[/bold] wrote: Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight. Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine. Rovers til I cry
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11:42am Tue 22 Nov 11

a_true_blue says...

I am very surprised the LET crony's that seem to be in the pockets of the con men indians have run this report without putting a positive spin on it
I am very surprised the LET crony's that seem to be in the pockets of the con men indians have run this report without putting a positive spin on it a_true_blue
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11:44am Tue 22 Nov 11

Roverthere says...

Fawlty Towers of the football word. How not to manage and conduct PR.
How these guy's manage in India to run a company I don't know.

WEC Darwen End season ticket holder. Thanks for your support Mr Wild
Fawlty Towers of the football word. How not to manage and conduct PR. How these guy's manage in India to run a company I don't know. WEC Darwen End season ticket holder. Thanks for your support Mr Wild Roverthere
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11:44am Tue 22 Nov 11

manyarecalled says...

this is so arrogant of the club/Venkys.
I assume that if they have a board in Poona , they don't need one in Blackburn as well. now , meetings are to be held in London.
however , why they ignore sponsors , is beyond me.
to me , it appears that setting up coaching in India is their only concern .
the sooner they sell to the Quatar group , the better for all concerned.
this is so arrogant of the club/Venkys. I assume that if they have a board in Poona , they don't need one in Blackburn as well. now , meetings are to be held in London. however , why they ignore sponsors , is beyond me. to me , it appears that setting up coaching in India is their only concern . the sooner they sell to the Quatar group , the better for all concerned. manyarecalled
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11:48am Tue 22 Nov 11

roverfor60years says...

I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated that Venky's were ripping the heart out of the club and would live to rue their decisions.
That day is fast approaching and each day that goes by the situation worsens. Talk about Rome burning! The trouble is that when they come to their senses it will almost certainly be too late.
What an insult to your main sponsor to be told he can travel to London if he wants to speak to them when they were here the day before.
And how can you run a business with a line manager reporting directly to faraway owners who don’t have a clue what’s happening and what damage they are wreaking. No wonder he can talk a good game!
We’re hurtling towards a sorry, sorry day for a proud football club.
I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated that Venky's were ripping the heart out of the club and would live to rue their decisions. That day is fast approaching and each day that goes by the situation worsens. Talk about Rome burning! The trouble is that when they come to their senses it will almost certainly be too late. What an insult to your main sponsor to be told he can travel to London if he wants to speak to them when they were here the day before. And how can you run a business with a line manager reporting directly to faraway owners who don’t have a clue what’s happening and what damage they are wreaking. No wonder he can talk a good game! We’re hurtling towards a sorry, sorry day for a proud football club. roverfor60years
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11:50am Tue 22 Nov 11

BlackburnExile says...

If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.
If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir. BlackburnExile
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11:51am Tue 22 Nov 11

BlackburnExile says...

I will try again minus the errors!

If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please buy him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I don't care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.
I will try again minus the errors! If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please buy him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I don't care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir. BlackburnExile
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11:53am Tue 22 Nov 11

downinthedumps says...

Well said Mr Wild. 12 months on and the club bears no resemblance to the well orgainsied and well respected club it was. I now bitterly dislike the takeover of twelve months ago - all the hype and promise and no plan A or B. I give credit to the players who remain spirited and together - but surely some of then (the more skilful and senior) will be coming to the conclusion that they have been sold an 'exciting times/european football con. Its difficult to know what can be done. Spend in January Keane says - well here we all go again! Bye bye Junior - the rest will be following on.
Well said Mr Wild. 12 months on and the club bears no resemblance to the well orgainsied and well respected club it was. I now bitterly dislike the takeover of twelve months ago - all the hype and promise and no plan A or B. I give credit to the players who remain spirited and together - but surely some of then (the more skilful and senior) will be coming to the conclusion that they have been sold an 'exciting times/european football con. Its difficult to know what can be done. Spend in January Keane says - well here we all go again! Bye bye Junior - the rest will be following on. downinthedumps
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11:54am Tue 22 Nov 11

French Rover says...

Well said Mr Wild....maybe your public plea for communication and the restoring of some structure to the club will get us all some much needed answers. Your offer to mediate between the fans and the club and owners should also be listened to by Venkys as this situation is crying out for someone to take soe kind of position of normality. Right now we seem to have nothing solid at Ewood anymore, just a castle built on sand and sinking more quickly every week.
Well said Mr Wild....maybe your public plea for communication and the restoring of some structure to the club will get us all some much needed answers. Your offer to mediate between the fans and the club and owners should also be listened to by Venkys as this situation is crying out for someone to take soe kind of position of normality. Right now we seem to have nothing solid at Ewood anymore, just a castle built on sand and sinking more quickly every week. French Rover
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11:54am Tue 22 Nov 11

juanbbien says...

When you think it cant get any worse,some other issue is brought to light,what the bloody hell is going on,they just seem to want to commit financial ruin to an unknown agenda of they have,with kean orchestrating the playing downfall,I'm lost for any answers
When you think it cant get any worse,some other issue is brought to light,what the bloody hell is going on,they just seem to want to commit financial ruin to an unknown agenda of they have,with kean orchestrating the playing downfall,I'm lost for any answers juanbbien
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11:56am Tue 22 Nov 11

glen9mullan says...

Having followed this story for weeks and seen Waynes passion both in person and the way he presents himself over the telephone I feel its terrible that a proud local sponsor who not only sponsors our club, but provides many jobs and training for the local community, is treated this way is beyond belief. I was lucky enough to see the letter Mr Wild sent to the owners, and it was drafted excellently from both a supporters and sponsors point of view. I really hope Venkys now take it upon theirselves to speak with Mr Wild as our club needs people like him around the club. He is one of the good guys and I do think he can bring a alot to the party interms of educating them on how badly things have got.
Big respect to Mr Wild for going public, because I do know it was the last thing he wanted to do and he extended deadline after deadline to have his concerns aired around a table
Having followed this story for weeks and seen Waynes passion both in person and the way he presents himself over the telephone I feel its terrible that a proud local sponsor who not only sponsors our club, but provides many jobs and training for the local community, is treated this way is beyond belief. I was lucky enough to see the letter Mr Wild sent to the owners, and it was drafted excellently from both a supporters and sponsors point of view. I really hope Venkys now take it upon theirselves to speak with Mr Wild as our club needs people like him around the club. He is one of the good guys and I do think he can bring a alot to the party interms of educating them on how badly things have got. Big respect to Mr Wild for going public, because I do know it was the last thing he wanted to do and he extended deadline after deadline to have his concerns aired around a table glen9mullan
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11:57am Tue 22 Nov 11

Helmshore Blue says...

Peter White must be turning in his grave.Grow some gonads Cryer and start doing your job.
Peter White must be turning in his grave.Grow some gonads Cryer and start doing your job. Helmshore Blue
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12:03pm Tue 22 Nov 11

kitchener2 says...

May be now at last, some of the "give them a chance" brigade will realise that the protesters are right to show so much alarm and concern. When the one and only corporate sponser the club retains voices their disdain as to the running of the club then it is surely time to act, if Venkys can ignore these people we must surely be in far more trouble than we ever imagined! I wonder if any of the Rao family ancestors were ever members of the thuggee sect....possibly because they are doing an excellent job in assasinating our club!
May be now at last, some of the "give them a chance" brigade will realise that the protesters are right to show so much alarm and concern. When the one and only corporate sponser the club retains voices their disdain as to the running of the club then it is surely time to act, if Venkys can ignore these people we must surely be in far more trouble than we ever imagined! I wonder if any of the Rao family ancestors were ever members of the thuggee sect....possibly because they are doing an excellent job in assasinating our club! kitchener2
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12:03pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Dukes says...

I written to many letters I never got a respond by them,but I managed to dig in more, I finally got somewhere, I am asking them to come clean and remove kean but its taking a hell of a time for them to listen to.I never off line or off the phone i am working my socks off here because we fans are stressed out badly the beloved club we love are in a mess.
I written to many letters I never got a respond by them,but I managed to dig in more, I finally got somewhere, I am asking them to come clean and remove kean but its taking a hell of a time for them to listen to.I never off line or off the phone i am working my socks off here because we fans are stressed out badly the beloved club we love are in a mess. Dukes
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12:04pm Tue 22 Nov 11

HighburyB&W says...

I am hoping the fact that neither Kean or Venky's have said anything since Saturday means they are taking a long hard think over things....... its about the only positive I can think of at the moment.
I am hoping the fact that neither Kean or Venky's have said anything since Saturday means they are taking a long hard think over things....... its about the only positive I can think of at the moment. HighburyB&W
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12:04pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Roverthere says...

Alf Thornton would!
Alf Thornton would! Roverthere
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12:05pm Tue 22 Nov 11

owd nick says...

About time, someone with sense saying what the majority feel, Venky's are not the right people to own Rovers.
.
Lets see how or even if, they respond to this.
About time, someone with sense saying what the majority feel, Venky's are not the right people to own Rovers. . Lets see how or even if, they respond to this. owd nick
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12:06pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RobbyRover says...

Rovers til I cry wrote:
Redbike wrote: Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.
I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight. Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine.
A small cog in not just an unmaintained machine, but an unfunctioning one. All the major parts that were working well were thrown away and they expected the machine to function on the smaller, unreliable cogs that previously did little.

I wouldn't dare eat their chicken. They probably throw away the meat and just sell the bones and crap bits.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers til I cry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Redbike[/bold] wrote: Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight. Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine.[/p][/quote]A small cog in not just an unmaintained machine, but an unfunctioning one. All the major parts that were working well were thrown away and they expected the machine to function on the smaller, unreliable cogs that previously did little. I wouldn't dare eat their chicken. They probably throw away the meat and just sell the bones and crap bits. RobbyRover
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12:07pm Tue 22 Nov 11

shaus says...

madari wrote:
Madari the snake charmer says: Confirmation of a pantomime team run by Clowns..Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha haha!!!!!!!
Anyone who starts a sentance with "Madari the snake charmer says" obviously needs help.
[quote][p][bold]madari[/bold] wrote: Madari the snake charmer says: Confirmation of a pantomime team run by Clowns..Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha haha!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Anyone who starts a sentance with "Madari the snake charmer says" obviously needs help. shaus
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12:09pm Tue 22 Nov 11

eddie the eagle says...

Twelve months ago I asked the question why Venkys an Indian family who although wealthy did not seem the sort of people to throw money away on a football club,had bought Rovers.Today I have asked myself the same question and the answer is I don't know.
I asked myself why sack Sam and appoint a no mark who they could have known nothing about.I think I can answer that one,Jerome Anderson.
I have asked myself why Kean who has been a big failure,is still in a job when he would have been sacked at any other club.
All the fears I voiced twelve months ago have come true,and I said at the time I would love to be wrong.I wasn't wrong and I am very very sad.I now believe we have 2 weeks to make a change or we are down and again I hope I'm wrong.
Twelve months ago I asked the question why Venkys an Indian family who although wealthy did not seem the sort of people to throw money away on a football club,had bought Rovers.Today I have asked myself the same question and the answer is I don't know. I asked myself why sack Sam and appoint a no mark who they could have known nothing about.I think I can answer that one,Jerome Anderson. I have asked myself why Kean who has been a big failure,is still in a job when he would have been sacked at any other club. All the fears I voiced twelve months ago have come true,and I said at the time I would love to be wrong.I wasn't wrong and I am very very sad.I now believe we have 2 weeks to make a change or we are down and again I hope I'm wrong. eddie the eagle
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12:10pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Gaz M says...

Venkys asked us to judge them after a year in charge well after a year the team isnt good enough and cant win a game for love nor money ,and as Mr Wild has just pointed out the infrastructure has been systematically ripped out with no leadership now at the heart of the club.The once united fan front is now divided and bickering amongst each other. So Venkys your year in charge has been an unmitigated unforgivable disaster and will shame you and your family for ever.My personal wish is for you to please do the honourable thing and sell the club if an offer is made to you and let this once proud club endeavour to regain its credability
Venkys asked us to judge them after a year in charge well after a year the team isnt good enough and cant win a game for love nor money ,and as Mr Wild has just pointed out the infrastructure has been systematically ripped out with no leadership now at the heart of the club.The once united fan front is now divided and bickering amongst each other. So Venkys your year in charge has been an unmitigated unforgivable disaster and will shame you and your family for ever.My personal wish is for you to please do the honourable thing and sell the club if an offer is made to you and let this once proud club endeavour to regain its credability Gaz M
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12:11pm Tue 22 Nov 11

noddymcleod says...

So it's not a tiny percentage of the fans who are unhappy. Well done Mr Wild and shame on you LET for continuing to let others make the running, come on LET - show your colours.
Let's hope the end game is not far off, and the end game must be Venkys out and not just Kean out.
So it's not a tiny percentage of the fans who are unhappy. Well done Mr Wild and shame on you LET for continuing to let others make the running, come on LET - show your colours. Let's hope the end game is not far off, and the end game must be Venkys out and not just Kean out. noddymcleod
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12:11pm Tue 22 Nov 11

fitz808 says...

seems like a decent enough bloke and should have had a response to his questions. I'm not sure why the LET comes in for repeated criticism. they report what they can, i'm sure.
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all this talk of the end of everything, hearts being ripped out of the clubs and imminent disaster is all a bit emotive for my taste. i think if more people put it Mr Wild's way, we might at least have a more constructive debate.
seems like a decent enough bloke and should have had a response to his questions. I'm not sure why the LET comes in for repeated criticism. they report what they can, i'm sure. + all this talk of the end of everything, hearts being ripped out of the clubs and imminent disaster is all a bit emotive for my taste. i think if more people put it Mr Wild's way, we might at least have a more constructive debate. fitz808
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12:12pm Tue 22 Nov 11

nil bye mouth says...

HA HA HA Keep up the good work Venkys slowly but surely you are ripping the heart and soul of woevers i couldnt have done it better myself ps leave Keano alone he is a tactical genius.
HA HA HA Keep up the good work Venkys slowly but surely you are ripping the heart and soul of woevers i couldnt have done it better myself ps leave Keano alone he is a tactical genius. nil bye mouth
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12:13pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Pooloflife says...

If the owners can ignore Mr Wild and not take up the offer he is making, I Don't think we can have any hope of things improving.It is so sad to see what is going on at our once proud club.
If the owners can ignore Mr Wild and not take up the offer he is making, I Don't think we can have any hope of things improving.It is so sad to see what is going on at our once proud club. Pooloflife
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12:13pm Tue 22 Nov 11

gleechy says...

I can't believe that this behaviour dosen't come under miss management of a football club. Do we have to count to a thousand and wait till they have left the country?
I can't believe that this behaviour dosen't come under miss management of a football club. Do we have to count to a thousand and wait till they have left the country? gleechy
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12:13pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RobbyRover says...

Reading everything else over the past few days, I fear our transfer budget in Jan will be what we can make from selling Andrews and Goulon.

If they get decent money for Samba, it'll be reinvested in chicken hatcheries.
Reading everything else over the past few days, I fear our transfer budget in Jan will be what we can make from selling Andrews and Goulon. If they get decent money for Samba, it'll be reinvested in chicken hatcheries. RobbyRover
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12:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

mersey-blues says...

This just get worse by the day!! Well done Mr Wild for speaking up about this. I have remained fairly open minded, optimistic, stupid about the venkys however a year in and the club is in ruins and the team is wallowing at the bottom of the premiership. I am as all supporters not just concerned but also very upset. Why don't the LET actually look into this lot a bit closer and get some answers regarding their intentions for buying BRFC because all i can conclude is that they are using the club as a vehicle to secure loans for their chicken shacks!!!!!!
This just get worse by the day!! Well done Mr Wild for speaking up about this. I have remained fairly open minded, optimistic, stupid about the venkys however a year in and the club is in ruins and the team is wallowing at the bottom of the premiership. I am as all supporters not just concerned but also very upset. Why don't the LET actually look into this lot a bit closer and get some answers regarding their intentions for buying BRFC because all i can conclude is that they are using the club as a vehicle to secure loans for their chicken shacks!!!!!! mersey-blues
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12:22pm Tue 22 Nov 11

smellthecoffee says...

Does nobody else find it a little strange that the daughter was put in charge of the company instead of the sons?? The other two are clearly a pair of muppets that haven't a clue about business. She probably agreed for them to buy the club to get the idiots out of the way....now we're stuck with them!!!
Does nobody else find it a little strange that the daughter was put in charge of the company instead of the sons?? The other two are clearly a pair of muppets that haven't a clue about business. She probably agreed for them to buy the club to get the idiots out of the way....now we're stuck with them!!! smellthecoffee
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12:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

vic56 says...

Venky's are asset strippers and will only listen to£££££££££
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Venky's are asset strippers and will only listen to£££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££££££! vic56
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12:28pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

Well done Mr Wild - your points about the structure of the club (or lack of it) and the failure of Venkys to comunicate with fans are one of the core problems (one of a number unfortunately) that are currently blighting our club.
.
I also made the same points to Paul Hunt recently - and to be fair to Mr Hunt, he seemed to be totally au-fait (sorry about the spelling FR) with these problems and in many cases agreed there was a problem. Unfortuantely he seems to be the only senior person working at Ewood as the lack of appointments to senior positions after months and months is nothing short of disgraceful.
.
One point I suggested and he liked was to organise a question and answer evening with at least 1 Venky and 200 season ticket holders, drawn at random - he might be keen on the idea but will Venkys ??
.
I would also encourage ANY and EVERY current Rovers season ticket holder to email the club through its website and complain (without any abusive language) about the current situation. Say you will not renew your season ticket unless the situation changes and that you would like to air your complaints with a senior Rovers official - they usually will do this and the more people that complain about the same things (lack of structure, broken promises, no comunication, manager who's slightly better than dusty bin etc etc) possibly, just possibly we might get things changed.
.
Unfortunately it is one thing getting your point understood by Paul Hunt, a clued up football guy but another thing him being able to get the message across to Venkys - and there in lies the nub of the problem.
Well done Mr Wild - your points about the structure of the club (or lack of it) and the failure of Venkys to comunicate with fans are one of the core problems (one of a number unfortunately) that are currently blighting our club. . I also made the same points to Paul Hunt recently - and to be fair to Mr Hunt, he seemed to be totally au-fait (sorry about the spelling FR) with these problems and in many cases agreed there was a problem. Unfortuantely he seems to be the only senior person working at Ewood as the lack of appointments to senior positions after months and months is nothing short of disgraceful. . One point I suggested and he liked was to organise a question and answer evening with at least 1 Venky and 200 season ticket holders, drawn at random - he might be keen on the idea but will Venkys ?? . I would also encourage ANY and EVERY current Rovers season ticket holder to email the club through its website and complain (without any abusive language) about the current situation. Say you will not renew your season ticket unless the situation changes and that you would like to air your complaints with a senior Rovers official - they usually will do this and the more people that complain about the same things (lack of structure, broken promises, no comunication, manager who's slightly better than dusty bin etc etc) possibly, just possibly we might get things changed. . Unfortunately it is one thing getting your point understood by Paul Hunt, a clued up football guy but another thing him being able to get the message across to Venkys - and there in lies the nub of the problem. J.C - Rishton
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12:29pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ChrisSutton says...

BlackburnExile wrote:
If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.
I'll drink to that.

100% for the players
0% for golden boy Kean and Venkys
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]BlackburnExile[/bold] wrote: If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.[/p][/quote]I'll drink to that. 100% for the players 0% for golden boy Kean and Venkys -D.K.O ChrisSutton
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12:29pm Tue 22 Nov 11

fiftyphead says...

It’s simple. There is nothing positive to take from the situation. Aruna is the one with the brains, the other two are just a couple of bumbling idiots. They still don’t recognise that there is a problem. This will get worse until they decide to cut their losses and run for it or she gets directly involved. As for us? Nothing we can do! Absolutely nothing.
It’s simple. There is nothing positive to take from the situation. Aruna is the one with the brains, the other two are just a couple of bumbling idiots. They still don’t recognise that there is a problem. This will get worse until they decide to cut their losses and run for it or she gets directly involved. As for us? Nothing we can do! Absolutely nothing. fiftyphead
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12:31pm Tue 22 Nov 11

slongio says...

Well said and about time Wildy, hope you maxine and the little 2 are all well! Fingers crossed venkys have to start listening soon enough!
Well said and about time Wildy, hope you maxine and the little 2 are all well! Fingers crossed venkys have to start listening soon enough! slongio
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12:32pm Tue 22 Nov 11

MARCO says...

nil bye mouth says...
12:12pm Tue 22 Nov 11

HA HA HA Keep up the good work Venkys slowly but surely you are ripping the heart and soul of woevers i couldnt have done it better myself ps leave Keano alone he is a tactical genius.

HA HA HA!! Look at your'e own position first you muppet. Hovering above relegation again. Soon to have no ground left if everybody keeps sitting on those rotting wooden seats, stay in the land time forgot.YOU FOOL
nil bye mouth says... 12:12pm Tue 22 Nov 11 HA HA HA Keep up the good work Venkys slowly but surely you are ripping the heart and soul of woevers i couldnt have done it better myself ps leave Keano alone he is a tactical genius. HA HA HA!! Look at your'e own position first you muppet. Hovering above relegation again. Soon to have no ground left if everybody keeps sitting on those rotting wooden seats, stay in the land time forgot.YOU FOOL MARCO
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12:32pm Tue 22 Nov 11

bluerob says...

Well said Mr Wild, can you believe they expected him to drop everything at the last minute and travel to London to meet them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this is how they value a major sponsor then the fans have no chance, Venkys I plead with you to take a profit and sell to QP
Well said Mr Wild, can you believe they expected him to drop everything at the last minute and travel to London to meet them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If this is how they value a major sponsor then the fans have no chance, Venkys I plead with you to take a profit and sell to QP bluerob
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12:35pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Well said that man.

I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ?

Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW !
Well said that man. I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ? Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW ! Road Runner Road Runner
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12:40pm Tue 22 Nov 11

getkeanout says...

Venky’s London

VH Group since long has been actively involved in direct or indirect promotion of
different sport categories. A few of the prominent sport events where the group has
contributed its share are Indian Premiere League,20-20 Champions League as a sponsor
of Trinidad and Tobago, ATP Mumbai Tennis Tournament and many other sports at local
level.

Sports and health goes hand in hand and Venky’s has taken one step further by owning
one of the most popular English Premiere League Club – Blackburn Rovers. By
fructifying this deal Venky’s has become the first Indian Company to achieve this fete.

This club has a proud history as that of its owners and has won English Premiere League
for three times and FA Cup six times in total. As a part of its future strategy, the VH
Group is determined to establish Blackburn Rovers as a truly global brand and take all
efforts to ensure retaining and further upgrading its status of being one of the best run
clubs within the premier League.


Straight from the venky's site so clearly says it all that to them we are nothing more than a marketing scheme and trying to promote us as a global brand and for there own history as owning a premiership team........we need to pull together now the fans falling apart is a disgrace and something that should never happen to such a family orientated football club such as ours........I'm disgusted that we are seen as nothing more than a brand and not a class act which we once was. I feel for the players I really do and there is part of me that thinks Mr. Wobblehead Kean is as said before nothing more than a cheap replacement to keep costings down. Well said Mr Wild, but I don't think you will be listened to....link came from google and venky's London.
Venky’s London VH Group since long has been actively involved in direct or indirect promotion of different sport categories. A few of the prominent sport events where the group has contributed its share are Indian Premiere League,20-20 Champions League as a sponsor of Trinidad and Tobago, ATP Mumbai Tennis Tournament and many other sports at local level. Sports and health goes hand in hand and Venky’s has taken one step further by owning one of the most popular English Premiere League Club – Blackburn Rovers. By fructifying this deal Venky’s has become the first Indian Company to achieve this fete. This club has a proud history as that of its owners and has won English Premiere League for three times and FA Cup six times in total. As a part of its future strategy, the VH Group is determined to establish Blackburn Rovers as a truly global brand and take all efforts to ensure retaining and further upgrading its status of being one of the best run clubs within the premier League. Straight from the venky's site so clearly says it all that to them we are nothing more than a marketing scheme and trying to promote us as a global brand and for there own history as owning a premiership team........we need to pull together now the fans falling apart is a disgrace and something that should never happen to such a family orientated football club such as ours........I'm disgusted that we are seen as nothing more than a brand and not a class act which we once was. I feel for the players I really do and there is part of me that thinks Mr. Wobblehead Kean is as said before nothing more than a cheap replacement to keep costings down. Well said Mr Wild, but I don't think you will be listened to....link came from google and venky's London. getkeanout
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12:41pm Tue 22 Nov 11

thelincolnshirepoacher says...

Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know. thelincolnshirepoacher
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12:45pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Stavka-rovers says...

juanbbien wrote:
When you think it cant get any worse,some other issue is brought to light,what the bloody hell is going on,they just seem to want to commit financial ruin to an unknown agenda of they have,with kean orchestrating the playing downfall,I'm lost for any answers
Get kean out and I will personally pay for a statue of you outside the ground Mr.Wild
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: When you think it cant get any worse,some other issue is brought to light,what the bloody hell is going on,they just seem to want to commit financial ruin to an unknown agenda of they have,with kean orchestrating the playing downfall,I'm lost for any answers[/p][/quote]Get kean out and I will personally pay for a statue of you outside the ground Mr.Wild Stavka-rovers
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12:45pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ChrisSutton says...

thelincolnshirepoach
er
wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O ChrisSutton
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12:48pm Tue 22 Nov 11

petergray says...

I believe the only logical answer to the conundrum surrounding all that is going on at Rovers is that "venky's London Limited" do not need fans, or indeed a properly functioning football team, as part of their plans, whatever they are.

It seems to me that all they require is the empty shell of a club that is temporarily in the EPL hence has a guaranteed income from shared tv rights and then "parachute" payments once inevitably relegated.

I believe the word that best describes our famous, much loved old club is "collateral" and unfortunately the same word also applies to the incedental "damage" that is about to befall us.

The only alternative I can see to the above is that our owners are simply all as nutty as a fruitcake.

Either way we are deep in the brown stuff and my heart bleeds for the future that we should've had.
I believe the only logical answer to the conundrum surrounding all that is going on at Rovers is that "venky's London Limited" do not need fans, or indeed a properly functioning football team, as part of their plans, whatever they are. It seems to me that all they require is the empty shell of a club that is temporarily in the EPL hence has a guaranteed income from shared tv rights and then "parachute" payments once inevitably relegated. I believe the word that best describes our famous, much loved old club is "collateral" and unfortunately the same word also applies to the incedental "damage" that is about to befall us. The only alternative I can see to the above is that our owners are simply all as nutty as a fruitcake. Either way we are deep in the brown stuff and my heart bleeds for the future that we should've had. petergray
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12:52pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Dr.alan79 says...

Well what a sad indictment of what has become of our once proud club. Utterly devastating to witness what has transpired over Venky's reign. We have gone from being able to walk with our heads held high as Rovers fans to what the club has achieved given the size, to being barracked and embarrassed on a weekly basis. The owners can't even maintain dialogue with the clubs main sponsor? Outrageous behaviour. Judge us after a year said Venky's, well here we are and just what the hell have you done? We all know the list by now, perhaps the most disappointing of all though is the way the fans are turning on each other. All through apocalyptic mismanagement. Well done Venky's
Well what a sad indictment of what has become of our once proud club. Utterly devastating to witness what has transpired over Venky's reign. We have gone from being able to walk with our heads held high as Rovers fans to what the club has achieved given the size, to being barracked and embarrassed on a weekly basis. The owners can't even maintain dialogue with the clubs main sponsor? Outrageous behaviour. Judge us after a year said Venky's, well here we are and just what the hell have you done? We all know the list by now, perhaps the most disappointing of all though is the way the fans are turning on each other. All through apocalyptic mismanagement. Well done Venky's Dr.alan79
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12:52pm Tue 22 Nov 11

carlmc says...

Well done to Mr Wild for your comments and having the foresight to try to get a response from the owners, before being frustrated into going public.

I sincerely hope you get the answers we all crave and are invited to act as a medium between the owners and the fans, but somehow I doubt it.

I don't know what your intentions are if they don't respond, but I know what I would do if I was in your position. I know doing that would hurt the club you obviously love, but it appears anyone financailly supporting the club, is taking a big risk with their money. We all hope that the bulk of that we spend, is reinvested by way of improvements to the team. Sadly I genuinely believe that the owners are raping the club and hoping the team succeeds despite them, not because of them.

If Kean does happen to be in charge for any more matches, I dare say he is now fully aware that almost all of the fans are now against him and the owners and our corporate sponsors have concerns too. Spin your way out of that one Mr Kean.
Well done to Mr Wild for your comments and having the foresight to try to get a response from the owners, before being frustrated into going public. I sincerely hope you get the answers we all crave and are invited to act as a medium between the owners and the fans, but somehow I doubt it. I don't know what your intentions are if they don't respond, but I know what I would do if I was in your position. I know doing that would hurt the club you obviously love, but it appears anyone financailly supporting the club, is taking a big risk with their money. We all hope that the bulk of that we spend, is reinvested by way of improvements to the team. Sadly I genuinely believe that the owners are raping the club and hoping the team succeeds despite them, not because of them. If Kean does happen to be in charge for any more matches, I dare say he is now fully aware that almost all of the fans are now against him and the owners and our corporate sponsors have concerns too. Spin your way out of that one Mr Kean. carlmc
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12:53pm Tue 22 Nov 11

French Rover says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Well done Mr Wild - your points about the structure of the club (or lack of it) and the failure of Venkys to comunicate with fans are one of the core problems (one of a number unfortunately) that are currently blighting our club.
.
I also made the same points to Paul Hunt recently - and to be fair to Mr Hunt, he seemed to be totally au-fait (sorry about the spelling FR) with these problems and in many cases agreed there was a problem. Unfortuantely he seems to be the only senior person working at Ewood as the lack of appointments to senior positions after months and months is nothing short of disgraceful.
.
One point I suggested and he liked was to organise a question and answer evening with at least 1 Venky and 200 season ticket holders, drawn at random - he might be keen on the idea but will Venkys ??
.
I would also encourage ANY and EVERY current Rovers season ticket holder to email the club through its website and complain (without any abusive language) about the current situation. Say you will not renew your season ticket unless the situation changes and that you would like to air your complaints with a senior Rovers official - they usually will do this and the more people that complain about the same things (lack of structure, broken promises, no comunication, manager who's slightly better than dusty bin etc etc) possibly, just possibly we might get things changed.
.
Unfortunately it is one thing getting your point understood by Paul Hunt, a clued up football guy but another thing him being able to get the message across to Venkys - and there in lies the nub of the problem.
Nothing wrong with your french spelling JC, nor with the sentiments you expressed.

Surely to god Paul Hunt or even Wayne Wild or someone with that kind of common sense and influence and integrity at the club can illicit some kind of positive response from our owners?

I just wonder why none of the crummy media journos and ex-fleet street hacks or TV luvvies have not done an investigative piece on the Venkys yet? Surely there is one being put together now in advance of the story taking an even worse turn soon...bit like having a program ready now for when the Queen dies..
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Wild - your points about the structure of the club (or lack of it) and the failure of Venkys to comunicate with fans are one of the core problems (one of a number unfortunately) that are currently blighting our club. . I also made the same points to Paul Hunt recently - and to be fair to Mr Hunt, he seemed to be totally au-fait (sorry about the spelling FR) with these problems and in many cases agreed there was a problem. Unfortuantely he seems to be the only senior person working at Ewood as the lack of appointments to senior positions after months and months is nothing short of disgraceful. . One point I suggested and he liked was to organise a question and answer evening with at least 1 Venky and 200 season ticket holders, drawn at random - he might be keen on the idea but will Venkys ?? . I would also encourage ANY and EVERY current Rovers season ticket holder to email the club through its website and complain (without any abusive language) about the current situation. Say you will not renew your season ticket unless the situation changes and that you would like to air your complaints with a senior Rovers official - they usually will do this and the more people that complain about the same things (lack of structure, broken promises, no comunication, manager who's slightly better than dusty bin etc etc) possibly, just possibly we might get things changed. . Unfortunately it is one thing getting your point understood by Paul Hunt, a clued up football guy but another thing him being able to get the message across to Venkys - and there in lies the nub of the problem.[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with your french spelling JC, nor with the sentiments you expressed. Surely to god Paul Hunt or even Wayne Wild or someone with that kind of common sense and influence and integrity at the club can illicit some kind of positive response from our owners? I just wonder why none of the crummy media journos and ex-fleet street hacks or TV luvvies have not done an investigative piece on the Venkys yet? Surely there is one being put together now in advance of the story taking an even worse turn soon...bit like having a program ready now for when the Queen dies.. French Rover
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12:57pm Tue 22 Nov 11

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Just another nail in the Coffin, We were told at weekend by other Newspapers that they have mortgaged the club based on future income and we all know that is going to drop. What have they done with the money if it is true. If they have taken money and mortgaged up to the hilt, who will buy the club if it did come up for sale. What will happen to the ground and everything else if they defaulft. Very worried.
Just another nail in the Coffin, We were told at weekend by other Newspapers that they have mortgaged the club based on future income and we all know that is going to drop. What have they done with the money if it is true. If they have taken money and mortgaged up to the hilt, who will buy the club if it did come up for sale. What will happen to the ground and everything else if they defaulft. Very worried. A Rover 45 years and over
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12:59pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Road Runner Road Runner says...

The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder.

I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear

Venky & associates your time is a coming

Patience as worn thin

Besmirching the good name of:

Blackburn

&

BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB

The end is nigh

We want our club back
The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder. I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear Venky & associates your time is a coming Patience as worn thin Besmirching the good name of: Blackburn & BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB The end is nigh We want our club back Road Runner Road Runner
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1:01pm Tue 22 Nov 11

MARCO says...

Well said lincolnshire. Lay off Kean what good is it doing the players!!
Well said lincolnshire. Lay off Kean what good is it doing the players!! MARCO
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1:04pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Bangkok Rover says...

fitz808, couldn't agree more. Maybe Venkys simply didn't find Wayne Wild's signal in all the noise - probably symptomatic of a lack of bodies on the ground in itself.
fitz808, couldn't agree more. Maybe Venkys simply didn't find Wayne Wild's signal in all the noise - probably symptomatic of a lack of bodies on the ground in itself. Bangkok Rover
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1:05pm Tue 22 Nov 11

dean :-) says...

BlackburnExile wrote:
I will try again minus the errors!

If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please buy him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I don't care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.
Good post wot the **** is going on I stuck up for venkys but after hearing this and the loan they took out on are club . It seems like we are getting fuked right over by these
[quote][p][bold]BlackburnExile[/bold] wrote: I will try again minus the errors! If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please buy him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I don't care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.[/p][/quote]Good post wot the **** is going on I stuck up for venkys but after hearing this and the loan they took out on are club . It seems like we are getting fuked right over by these dean :-)
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1:09pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RobbyRover says...

MARCO wrote:
Well said lincolnshire. Lay off Kean what good is it doing the players!!
Probably more good than his team talks.

Most managers inspire the team at half time. Not old Keano. Apart from Saturday, when was the last time we held on to a half time lead?

Can't fault the fans for that. In fact I don't think you can fault the fans at all.

As someone said, if Venky's go, Kean will too. But that's a massive ask. Surely one step at a time? I understand it may be too late, but looking at how long it takes these clowns to make a decision we're best off changing one thing at a time. Any more and they'll just confuse themselves and keep it as it is.

Let's sort out the team management first, then go for the owners (whilst keeping them aware we're not happy)

As for replacements, I think Hughes would come. With Kia as his agent he'll go where offers him money. O'Neill? Nope. He's too clever. My shout would be Nigel Adkins from Southampton
[quote][p][bold]MARCO[/bold] wrote: Well said lincolnshire. Lay off Kean what good is it doing the players!![/p][/quote]Probably more good than his team talks. Most managers inspire the team at half time. Not old Keano. Apart from Saturday, when was the last time we held on to a half time lead? Can't fault the fans for that. In fact I don't think you can fault the fans at all. As someone said, if Venky's go, Kean will too. But that's a massive ask. Surely one step at a time? I understand it may be too late, but looking at how long it takes these clowns to make a decision we're best off changing one thing at a time. Any more and they'll just confuse themselves and keep it as it is. Let's sort out the team management first, then go for the owners (whilst keeping them aware we're not happy) As for replacements, I think Hughes would come. With Kia as his agent he'll go where offers him money. O'Neill? Nope. He's too clever. My shout would be Nigel Adkins from Southampton RobbyRover
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1:10pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Wild Rover says...

Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG.. Wild Rover
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1:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Dr.alan79 says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
Absolute fair play Wild Rover. I know you and I haven't exactly shared opinions, but I genuinely wish it was me who was saying I was wrong. Where the hell do we all go from here? In utterly drained and gutted through all of this.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]Absolute fair play Wild Rover. I know you and I haven't exactly shared opinions, but I genuinely wish it was me who was saying I was wrong. Where the hell do we all go from here? In utterly drained and gutted through all of this. Dr.alan79
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1:18pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Dr.alan79 says...

(I hope that didn't sound patronising or condescending, I meant it in all sincerity)
(I hope that didn't sound patronising or condescending, I meant it in all sincerity) Dr.alan79
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1:20pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..
I totally agree with you that us fans do need to keep it calm and as dignified as possible now.
.
I also applaud you for coming on here and saying you have changed your mind and that "you were wrong" - that takes a big man to do that so good on you.
.
I think that seeing as (at least) 99% of fans & the main sponsor seem to now be in agreement, then we should try to clarify, what we think is wrong (in simple terms) and what we all (collectively) think needs addressing.
.
Personnally I think we should push for -
.
1 - Removal of Steve Kean as manager.
.
2 - Implementing a proper, off-field management structure.
.
3 - Much better, clear, regular comunication from the owners.
.
OR (as a last resort)
.
Removal of Venkys as owners (even if this takes a few years).
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you that us fans do need to keep it calm and as dignified as possible now. . I also applaud you for coming on here and saying you have changed your mind and that "you were wrong" - that takes a big man to do that so good on you. . I think that seeing as (at least) 99% of fans & the main sponsor seem to now be in agreement, then we should try to clarify, what we think is wrong (in simple terms) and what we all (collectively) think needs addressing. . Personnally I think we should push for - . 1 - Removal of Steve Kean as manager. . 2 - Implementing a proper, off-field management structure. . 3 - Much better, clear, regular comunication from the owners. . OR (as a last resort) . Removal of Venkys as owners (even if this takes a few years). J.C - Rishton
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1:21pm Tue 22 Nov 11

kevh69 says...

The protests have got to be aimed towards the owners from now on, the manager will follow if/when they release us from this misery.
The protests have got to be aimed towards the owners from now on, the manager will follow if/when they release us from this misery. kevh69
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1:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ChrisSutton says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder.

I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear

Venky & associates your time is a coming

Patience as worn thin

Besmirching the good name of:

Blackburn

&

BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB

The end is nigh

We want our club back
Agreed.

The problem is Venkys are hardly at Ewood so I'm begining to wonder if this will be enough.

According to reports they were genuinely shocked and suprised at the fans anti-Kean and Venkys chants on Saturday at Wigan. Sounds like golden-boy Kean has been spin-doctoring to them eh? Not a suprise given his record of lies to date. Any fan here knows that he spin-doctors every post-match conference. Not to mention his greatest spin-doctoring of all... lying to the police.

The man is a fraud and a liar. I truly hope for the good of Blackburn Rovers that Saturday woke up Venkys to what is really going on and they are currently putting in place plans to replace him.

If not, we are truly relegated.

The only other option as I see it, aside from matchday protests, is to hit Venkys where it hurts - their business. There must be a clever PR Rovers fan out there who has ideas on how we can do something to discredit their name, and make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business (it already is in football...)
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder. I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear Venky & associates your time is a coming Patience as worn thin Besmirching the good name of: Blackburn & BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB The end is nigh We want our club back[/p][/quote]Agreed. The problem is Venkys are hardly at Ewood so I'm begining to wonder if this will be enough. According to reports they were genuinely shocked and suprised at the fans anti-Kean and Venkys chants on Saturday at Wigan. Sounds like golden-boy Kean has been spin-doctoring to them eh? Not a suprise given his record of lies to date. Any fan here knows that he spin-doctors every post-match conference. Not to mention his greatest spin-doctoring of all... lying to the police. The man is a fraud and a liar. I truly hope for the good of Blackburn Rovers that Saturday woke up Venkys to what is really going on and they are currently putting in place plans to replace him. If not, we are truly relegated. The only other option as I see it, aside from matchday protests, is to hit Venkys where it hurts - their business. There must be a clever PR Rovers fan out there who has ideas on how we can do something to discredit their name, and make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business (it already is in football...) -D.K.O ChrisSutton
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1:27pm Tue 22 Nov 11

smellthecoffee says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach

er
wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!". smellthecoffee
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1:30pm Tue 22 Nov 11

smellthecoffee says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach


er
wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them. smellthecoffee
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1:35pm Tue 22 Nov 11

valleyblue says...

The only thing Venkys care about is money.I say go to the next home game and support the team by all means,BUT DO NOT SPEND ANY MONEY.Don`t buy drinks,programmes,fo
od, do not go in the Roverstore,pay nothing more than the entrance fee.if you must take food with yo then please make it.K.F.C. and then wear the empty bucket as a hat.
The only thing Venkys care about is money.I say go to the next home game and support the team by all means,BUT DO NOT SPEND ANY MONEY.Don`t buy drinks,programmes,fo od, do not go in the Roverstore,pay nothing more than the entrance fee.if you must take food with yo then please make it.K.F.C. and then wear the empty bucket as a hat. valleyblue
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1:37pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..
Good on you Wild Rover

I like you was prepared to give these owners etc time but, the truth always 'outs' to our bemusement.

I'm with you on the protests etc keep it dignified & no abuse !

Your dedication, support & belief as a BRFC supporter as not gone unnoticed by me.

Wrong is the wrong word to use, in my opinion.

The time as arrived for 'ONE VOICE'

One that I knew would arrive should the perilous path we have travelled along continue.

Together we win, together we fail.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]Good on you Wild Rover I like you was prepared to give these owners etc time but, the truth always 'outs' to our bemusement. I'm with you on the protests etc keep it dignified & no abuse ! Your dedication, support & belief as a BRFC supporter as not gone unnoticed by me. Wrong is the wrong word to use, in my opinion. The time as arrived for 'ONE VOICE' One that I knew would arrive should the perilous path we have travelled along continue. Together we win, together we fail. Road Runner Road Runner
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1:42pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RobbyRover says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
I think I may know just the man. The guru of ruining company's reputations through negative PR.

Shall I make the call?
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]I think I may know just the man. The guru of ruining company's reputations through negative PR. Shall I make the call? RobbyRover
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1:46pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Ewood-b-happy says...

Rovers til I cry wrote:
Redbike wrote:
Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.
I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight.

Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine.
Your absolutely spot on chaps. I fear the reality is that venky's are on the fiddle to get cash from TV revenue. There's lots of it compared to WEC input, though I agree with all that Mr Wild has said he will be ignored. The only thing I can do as a mere season ticket holder, lifelong fan is protest. I keep saying Venkys are the real problem, Kean is a stooge for them & Jerome Anderson. We should at every oportunity target the Venky brand. I ask that as many people as possible email the FA / Barclays to ask for a full investigation into the goings on at Blackburn. Why would so called competent business people strip a club of the leaders who have steared the business so well for decades? The only reason I can think of is to be able to conduct underhand dealings without questions. I hope this paper gets on to the relevant authorities ASAP, as you will carry more wieght than just us fans.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers til I cry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Redbike[/bold] wrote: Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight. Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine.[/p][/quote]Your absolutely spot on chaps. I fear the reality is that venky's are on the fiddle to get cash from TV revenue. There's lots of it compared to WEC input, though I agree with all that Mr Wild has said he will be ignored. The only thing I can do as a mere season ticket holder, lifelong fan is protest. I keep saying Venkys are the real problem, Kean is a stooge for them & Jerome Anderson. We should at every oportunity target the Venky brand. I ask that as many people as possible email the FA / Barclays to ask for a full investigation into the goings on at Blackburn. Why would so called competent business people strip a club of the leaders who have steared the business so well for decades? The only reason I can think of is to be able to conduct underhand dealings without questions. I hope this paper gets on to the relevant authorities ASAP, as you will carry more wieght than just us fans. Ewood-b-happy
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1:49pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Road Runner Road Runner says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder.

I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear

Venky & associates your time is a coming

Patience as worn thin

Besmirching the good name of:

Blackburn

&

BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB

The end is nigh

We want our club back
Agreed.

The problem is Venkys are hardly at Ewood so I'm begining to wonder if this will be enough.

According to reports they were genuinely shocked and suprised at the fans anti-Kean and Venkys chants on Saturday at Wigan. Sounds like golden-boy Kean has been spin-doctoring to them eh? Not a suprise given his record of lies to date. Any fan here knows that he spin-doctors every post-match conference. Not to mention his greatest spin-doctoring of all... lying to the police.

The man is a fraud and a liar. I truly hope for the good of Blackburn Rovers that Saturday woke up Venkys to what is really going on and they are currently putting in place plans to replace him.

If not, we are truly relegated.

The only other option as I see it, aside from matchday protests, is to hit Venkys where it hurts - their business. There must be a clever PR Rovers fan out there who has ideas on how we can do something to discredit their name, and make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business (it already is in football...)
-D.K.O
Agreed Chris Sutton

This situation now lays firmly in the hands of Venky. The decisions made these next months will reveal just what they are about ?

All of my optimism & practical stance as evaporated these last couple of months.

I truly fear for the future as we have had the pleasure to witness these last 20 years.

I'm braced for the wilderness years(should they materialise) as I have experienced down the years many a baron time but, non the less no less passionate for the boys in B&W shirt.

Here is hoping for the change or stability needed asap ?
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder. I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear Venky & associates your time is a coming Patience as worn thin Besmirching the good name of: Blackburn & BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB The end is nigh We want our club back[/p][/quote]Agreed. The problem is Venkys are hardly at Ewood so I'm begining to wonder if this will be enough. According to reports they were genuinely shocked and suprised at the fans anti-Kean and Venkys chants on Saturday at Wigan. Sounds like golden-boy Kean has been spin-doctoring to them eh? Not a suprise given his record of lies to date. Any fan here knows that he spin-doctors every post-match conference. Not to mention his greatest spin-doctoring of all... lying to the police. The man is a fraud and a liar. I truly hope for the good of Blackburn Rovers that Saturday woke up Venkys to what is really going on and they are currently putting in place plans to replace him. If not, we are truly relegated. The only other option as I see it, aside from matchday protests, is to hit Venkys where it hurts - their business. There must be a clever PR Rovers fan out there who has ideas on how we can do something to discredit their name, and make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business (it already is in football...) -D.K.O[/p][/quote]Agreed Chris Sutton This situation now lays firmly in the hands of Venky. The decisions made these next months will reveal just what they are about ? All of my optimism & practical stance as evaporated these last couple of months. I truly fear for the future as we have had the pleasure to witness these last 20 years. I'm braced for the wilderness years(should they materialise) as I have experienced down the years many a baron time but, non the less no less passionate for the boys in B&W shirt. Here is hoping for the change or stability needed asap ? Road Runner Road Runner
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1:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

fitz808 says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..
completely agree with the need for measured comments. the organised protests too have been managed in a completely reasonable way, even though i disagree with the principal of them.
+
i do feel there has been too much hateful and unhelpful dialogue about our manager and there is likely to be an ever growing tirade of equally hateful language now aimed at the owners. this would be a shame, as progress so far has been made when things have been dignified.
+
am i ready to throw in the towel just yet? perhaps not. i just don't see the logic in the hassle a group would have to go through to do all this deliberately, so i don't think the mismanagement of the club to date is anything beyond just that - mismanagement.
+
however, there must be a clear response from the ownership to this and they now need to show a willingness to change. if they chose to stick with the manager, that is there decision and i almost admire the principaled stance. however, responding to honest and reasoned questioning in a timely fashion does not involve them changing their plans, it's just plain courtesy. that costs nothing and i would expect more.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]completely agree with the need for measured comments. the organised protests too have been managed in a completely reasonable way, even though i disagree with the principal of them. + i do feel there has been too much hateful and unhelpful dialogue about our manager and there is likely to be an ever growing tirade of equally hateful language now aimed at the owners. this would be a shame, as progress so far has been made when things have been dignified. + am i ready to throw in the towel just yet? perhaps not. i just don't see the logic in the hassle a group would have to go through to do all this deliberately, so i don't think the mismanagement of the club to date is anything beyond just that - mismanagement. + however, there must be a clear response from the ownership to this and they now need to show a willingness to change. if they chose to stick with the manager, that is there decision and i almost admire the principaled stance. however, responding to honest and reasoned questioning in a timely fashion does not involve them changing their plans, it's just plain courtesy. that costs nothing and i would expect more. fitz808
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1:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Bigbry says...

Unbelievable jeff!!!!!!!!

Time to hit the venkys big time.!
Unbelievable jeff!!!!!!!! Time to hit the venkys big time.! Bigbry
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1:56pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Wild Rover says...

Dr.alan79 wrote:
(I hope that didn't sound patronising or condescending, I meant it in all sincerity)
It didn't and like you I am at my wits end. I still believe we will rise above the current dross though..in the end
[quote][p][bold]Dr.alan79[/bold] wrote: (I hope that didn't sound patronising or condescending, I meant it in all sincerity)[/p][/quote]It didn't and like you I am at my wits end. I still believe we will rise above the current dross though..in the end Wild Rover
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1:56pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Road Runner Road Runner says...

RobbyRover wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
I think I may know just the man. The guru of ruining company's reputations through negative PR.

Shall I make the call?
Get it done RobbyRover

Make the call !
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]I think I may know just the man. The guru of ruining company's reputations through negative PR. Shall I make the call?[/p][/quote]Get it done RobbyRover Make the call ! Road Runner Road Runner
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2:02pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

Spot on wayne ,everything said in your article shows how the venkys have no respect for our town, industry and club,not just happy that they ignore the fans it looks like they are washing there hands with WEC, a local company that has been sponsoring BRFC for 3,4years now, sadly and its understandable you are now withdrawing that sponsor dont blame you.What ajoke having to travel to london to talk with a spokesperson for the club,as i and others have argued on here they have not kept to there agreement with theBRFI or anything in the jackwalker legacy i wonder when the statue of jackwalker will eventully be rooted out they seem to be demolishing the very name of B/burn rovers bit by bit.Kean out how ,long do we have to wait
Spot on wayne ,everything said in your article shows how the venkys have no respect for our town, industry and club,not just happy that they ignore the fans it looks like they are washing there hands with WEC, a local company that has been sponsoring BRFC for 3,4years now, sadly and its understandable you are now withdrawing that sponsor dont blame you.What ajoke having to travel to london to talk with a spokesperson for the club,as i and others have argued on here they have not kept to there agreement with theBRFI or anything in the jackwalker legacy i wonder when the statue of jackwalker will eventully be rooted out they seem to be demolishing the very name of B/burn rovers bit by bit.Kean out how ,long do we have to wait alfa111
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2:05pm Tue 22 Nov 11

katrew says...

Daily Mirror are reporting that Kean signed a new contract today. Story is timed as at 1350. They also state Venky's plan to stay away from matches until the current protests suside!!
Check the website out for the info (Hope to God it is not true)
Daily Mirror are reporting that Kean signed a new contract today. Story is timed as at 1350. They also state Venky's plan to stay away from matches until the current protests suside!! Check the website out for the info (Hope to God it is not true) katrew
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2:14pm Tue 22 Nov 11

stick to football says...

Thanks Mr Wild - it needed saying over and over again to these so called Owners. How do you go to a match and not turn up for the second half? what commitment does that show - the players are playing for their own pride and the fans - thanks for that. The club has been dragged down over the last 12 months and it is difficult when Venkys dont understand and dont communicate to see any immediate improvement. Venkys need to know that they have to listen and stop patronising supporteres with unkept promises. We are in the mirte and action is needed now I hope mr Wilds comments are read by ALL the Venkys. Come on Lancashire Telegraph ask the real questions before it os too late - Peter White would
Thanks Mr Wild - it needed saying over and over again to these so called Owners. How do you go to a match and not turn up for the second half? what commitment does that show - the players are playing for their own pride and the fans - thanks for that. The club has been dragged down over the last 12 months and it is difficult when Venkys dont understand and dont communicate to see any immediate improvement. Venkys need to know that they have to listen and stop patronising supporteres with unkept promises. We are in the mirte and action is needed now I hope mr Wilds comments are read by ALL the Venkys. Come on Lancashire Telegraph ask the real questions before it os too late - Peter White would stick to football
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2:14pm Tue 22 Nov 11

fiftyphead says...

Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?
Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas? fiftyphead
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2:17pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Special 90 mins Rovers Forum on Radio Lancs 6PM today. Get all your questions in and remember to be constructive so that they can't brush it off as the 1% barmy protestors.
.
For me Wigan was the straw that broke the camels back. If we don't change manager soon it could be too late. One win in 12 and no wins against Wolves, Everton, QPR, Norwich, Newcastle, Fulham or Wigan - these stats based on this season and with Kean's own team do not lie. He is simply not up to the job and Wigan proved that beyond all remaining doubt.
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33rd...........
Special 90 mins Rovers Forum on Radio Lancs 6PM today. Get all your questions in and remember to be constructive so that they can't brush it off as the 1% barmy protestors. . For me Wigan was the straw that broke the camels back. If we don't change manager soon it could be too late. One win in 12 and no wins against Wolves, Everton, QPR, Norwich, Newcastle, Fulham or Wigan - these stats based on this season and with Kean's own team do not lie. He is simply not up to the job and Wigan proved that beyond all remaining doubt. . 33rd........... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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2:20pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

fiftyphead wrote:
Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?
I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out.
.
33rd
[quote][p][bold]fiftyphead[/bold] wrote: Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?[/p][/quote]I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out. . 33rd Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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2:20pm Tue 22 Nov 11

dean :-) says...

Every one needs to bring banners in saying venkys chicken kills like they killed are club tat is serious bad publicity they would not like lets **** them the way they are fukin us. Up the rovers
Every one needs to bring banners in saying venkys chicken kills like they killed are club tat is serious bad publicity they would not like lets **** them the way they are fukin us. Up the rovers dean :-)
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2:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

blueandwhitedynamite says...

Please please let the story which has appeard in the Mirror this afternoon, of the new contract for Steve Kean, pay rise - removal of easier to sack clause is not true....

If it is true...as the Kaizer Chiefs once said....I predict a riot.
Please please let the story which has appeard in the Mirror this afternoon, of the new contract for Steve Kean, pay rise - removal of easier to sack clause is not true.... If it is true...as the Kaizer Chiefs once said....I predict a riot. blueandwhitedynamite
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2:34pm Tue 22 Nov 11

baldie says...

Talksport following story,just said they're in contact with club.
Talksport following story,just said they're in contact with club. baldie
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2:35pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Roversforlife says...

Just unbelievable. Every time you think 'it can't get worse'...it gets worse.

Normally the fact that some criticism is being levelled from an actual paying sponsor ('the only one??!!) rather than dismissable fans would give me some hope that perhaps Venkys will now sit up and take note, perhaps even listen and try to understand the comments and concerns...

But the last year has been the biggest series of being built up to be let down i have ever know, not even just in football terms.

After the Wigan game you think 'surely, he MUST be sacked now, they were at the game, they saw the unrest, SURELY!?' and then we find out the rumours are **** and the papers still report he's about to get an improved contract.

I really do have to remind myself that this is football at the end of the day because the situation is unbearable. I have lost all faith that Venkys will do the right thing here, but i thought that when things get so bad they can only get better.....still waiting.
Just unbelievable. Every time you think 'it can't get worse'...it gets worse. Normally the fact that some criticism is being levelled from an actual paying sponsor ('the only one??!!) rather than dismissable fans would give me some hope that perhaps Venkys will now sit up and take note, perhaps even listen and try to understand the comments and concerns... But the last year has been the biggest series of being built up to be let down i have ever know, not even just in football terms. After the Wigan game you think 'surely, he MUST be sacked now, they were at the game, they saw the unrest, SURELY!?' and then we find out the rumours are **** and the papers still report he's about to get an improved contract. I really do have to remind myself that this is football at the end of the day because the situation is unbearable. I have lost all faith that Venkys will do the right thing here, but i thought that when things get so bad they can only get better.....still waiting. Roversforlife
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2:38pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

kitchener2 wrote:
May be now at last, some of the "give them a chance" brigade will realise that the protesters are right to show so much alarm and concern. When the one and only corporate sponser the club retains voices their disdain as to the running of the club then it is surely time to act, if Venkys can ignore these people we must surely be in far more trouble than we ever imagined! I wonder if any of the Rao family ancestors were ever members of the thuggee sect....possibly because they are doing an excellent job in assasinating our club!
Well said fella,
[quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: May be now at last, some of the "give them a chance" brigade will realise that the protesters are right to show so much alarm and concern. When the one and only corporate sponser the club retains voices their disdain as to the running of the club then it is surely time to act, if Venkys can ignore these people we must surely be in far more trouble than we ever imagined! I wonder if any of the Rao family ancestors were ever members of the thuggee sect....possibly because they are doing an excellent job in assasinating our club![/p][/quote]Well said fella, alfa111
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2:44pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Rover Pete says...

Well, now we know something. The biggest sponsor of the club cannot get a reply to a letter and states quite clearly that the club is in a mess. What chance is there that they care anything ordinary supporters if they don't care about the biggest sponsor. Whatever it is Venkys want from Blackurn Rovers it is not sponsors or supporters or reporters. Or a winning team in the Premier League because we are on our way out of that and they have shown not the slightest worry about it so far. It's them and puppet Kean going to hell in a hand cart - all on their own. They are obviously out of their comfort zone and are incapable of delegating responsibility to anyone else. Is it possible that their grip is so tight that they are picking the team for Kean?

Talking of Kean and Venky's visit we still have had no word from them. And no word from Kean. More silence to help to make things worse, unless of course he has been taken away by the men in white coats.

100% for the players

0% for Kean & Venkys
Well, now we know something. The biggest sponsor of the club cannot get a reply to a letter and states quite clearly that the club is in a mess. What chance is there that they care anything ordinary supporters if they don't care about the biggest sponsor. Whatever it is Venkys want from Blackurn Rovers it is not sponsors or supporters or reporters. Or a winning team in the Premier League because we are on our way out of that and they have shown not the slightest worry about it so far. It's them and puppet Kean going to hell in a hand cart - all on their own. They are obviously out of their comfort zone and are incapable of delegating responsibility to anyone else. Is it possible that their grip is so tight that they are picking the team for Kean? Talking of Kean and Venky's visit we still have had no word from them. And no word from Kean. More silence to help to make things worse, unless of course he has been taken away by the men in white coats. 100% for the players 0% for Kean & Venkys Rover Pete
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2:45pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Roversforlife says...

Just another thought, those people who managed to get reports through to the Indian media - might work with this one?

I'll give it a go myself as well.
Just another thought, those people who managed to get reports through to the Indian media - might work with this one? I'll give it a go myself as well. Roversforlife
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2:46pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

katrew wrote:
Daily Mirror are reporting that Kean signed a new contract today. Story is timed as at 1350. They also state Venky's plan to stay away from matches until the current protests suside!! Check the website out for the info (Hope to God it is not true)
oh dear, doesnt sound good its watch and see the reaction now
[quote][p][bold]katrew[/bold] wrote: Daily Mirror are reporting that Kean signed a new contract today. Story is timed as at 1350. They also state Venky's plan to stay away from matches until the current protests suside!! Check the website out for the info (Hope to God it is not true)[/p][/quote]oh dear, doesnt sound good its watch and see the reaction now alfa111
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2:47pm Tue 22 Nov 11

bluerob says...

The time has come for us to unite as one voice , but as previously posted abuse and personal insults should be avoided.
If the mirror story is true we need to turn our attention to the owners during the 90 mins of play, but somehow let the players know we are 100% behind them as I believe they are playing for us and the club not the manager and the owners.
The time has come for us to unite as one voice , but as previously posted abuse and personal insults should be avoided. If the mirror story is true we need to turn our attention to the owners during the 90 mins of play, but somehow let the players know we are 100% behind them as I believe they are playing for us and the club not the manager and the owners. bluerob
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2:48pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach



er
wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting?? Keep Darwen Green
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2:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Your ferret stinks says...

I'm coming to the conclusion that this situation is exactly what venkys wanted all along! after all how much would someone have to pay to get the publicity that these guys are getting and getting their brand name out there? no one had heard of these people 18 months ago, plus they have sold players and got some money back, reduced the wage bill dramatically by a massive percentage, and are getting more publicity than they ever would if they ran the club ethically and efficiently! and thats why they are keeping Keane to bolster the the publicity machine!!
I'm coming to the conclusion that this situation is exactly what venkys wanted all along! after all how much would someone have to pay to get the publicity that these guys are getting and getting their brand name out there? no one had heard of these people 18 months ago, plus they have sold players and got some money back, reduced the wage bill dramatically by a massive percentage, and are getting more publicity than they ever would if they ran the club ethically and efficiently! and thats why they are keeping Keane to bolster the the publicity machine!! Your ferret stinks
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2:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

http://www.mirrorfoo
tball.co.uk/news/Ste
ve-Kean-seals-new-Bl
ackburn-deal-article
833461.html


Now they are really starting to take the pi$$
http://www.mirrorfoo tball.co.uk/news/Ste ve-Kean-seals-new-Bl ackburn-deal-article 833461.html Now they are really starting to take the pi$$ Russ ov the rovers
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3:05pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

Your ferret stinks wrote:
I'm coming to the conclusion that this situation is exactly what venkys wanted all along! after all how much would someone have to pay to get the publicity that these guys are getting and getting their brand name out there? no one had heard of these people 18 months ago, plus they have sold players and got some money back, reduced the wage bill dramatically by a massive percentage, and are getting more publicity than they ever would if they ran the club ethically and efficiently! and thats why they are keeping Keane to bolster the the publicity machine!!
Hello ferret sniffer, are your tanks fully armed and ready for battle?? or should I say bottle :0) Not long now before the reveal.
[quote][p][bold]Your ferret stinks[/bold] wrote: I'm coming to the conclusion that this situation is exactly what venkys wanted all along! after all how much would someone have to pay to get the publicity that these guys are getting and getting their brand name out there? no one had heard of these people 18 months ago, plus they have sold players and got some money back, reduced the wage bill dramatically by a massive percentage, and are getting more publicity than they ever would if they ran the club ethically and efficiently! and thats why they are keeping Keane to bolster the the publicity machine!![/p][/quote]Hello ferret sniffer, are your tanks fully armed and ready for battle?? or should I say bottle :0) Not long now before the reveal. Keep Darwen Green
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3:05pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG.

Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG. Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid. Russ ov the rovers
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3:07pm Tue 22 Nov 11

saint.george says...

Yes, looks like we're dead

http://www.mirrorfoo
tball.co.uk/news/Ste
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833461.html
Yes, looks like we're dead http://www.mirrorfoo tball.co.uk/news/Ste ve-Kean-seals-new-Bl ackburn-deal-article 833461.html saint.george
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3:08pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG.

Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid.
Can't be true, can it??? thats just plain bizarre. Are they Burnley fans?
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG. Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid.[/p][/quote]Can't be true, can it??? thats just plain bizarre. Are they Burnley fans? Keep Darwen Green
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3:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG. Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid.
Can't be true, can it??? thats just plain bizarre. Are they Burnley fans?
I really dont know KDG i am lost for words at trhe moment, I am going that forum tonight at Radio lancs if this is true then its going to be a very interesting show I think :(
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG. Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid.[/p][/quote]Can't be true, can it??? thats just plain bizarre. Are they Burnley fans?[/p][/quote]I really dont know KDG i am lost for words at trhe moment, I am going that forum tonight at Radio lancs if this is true then its going to be a very interesting show I think :( Russ ov the rovers
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3:17pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Dr.alan79 says...

Well, what can I say? There are not enough superlatives in the world to describe how I feel right now. My Rovers world just ended
Well, what can I say? There are not enough superlatives in the world to describe how I feel right now. My Rovers world just ended Dr.alan79
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3:17pm Tue 22 Nov 11

makaveli96 says...

Will
Everyone
Carry on the protest to get them out!!
Will Everyone Carry on the protest to get them out!! makaveli96
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3:21pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Bazzer says...

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
fiftyphead wrote: Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?
I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out. . 33rd
We were not too impatient. We were perceptive. You lot dawdled and procrastinated. Stop scoring points and come on board and protest like hell. And I really do not want to hear that Venkys are "naive" anymore, either.

Remember the Bhatti brothers!!!
[quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fiftyphead[/bold] wrote: Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?[/p][/quote]I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out. . 33rd[/p][/quote]We were not too impatient. We were perceptive. You lot dawdled and procrastinated. Stop scoring points and come on board and protest like hell. And I really do not want to hear that Venkys are "naive" anymore, either. Remember the Bhatti brothers!!! Bazzer
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3:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

petergray says...

The only sensible suggestion I can make is for a peaceful sit-in on the pitch before kick-off next home game.
The only sensible suggestion I can make is for a peaceful sit-in on the pitch before kick-off next home game. petergray
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3:24pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Iii1111 says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Well said that man. I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ? Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW !
I agree Keen position is now untenable …I hoped he could have turned it around -the Norwich game gave me renewed hope and I tried to muster up support.. now that’s gone! -if action isn’t taken immediately then it’ll be too late.
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Kean isn’t the problem though -the owners are…the team isn’t playing great and Keen increasingly looks out of his depth …..I honestly believe the Venkeys have made Keen’s job hundred times harder than it should have been, no manager would have coped in similar circumstance never mind a rooky -
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I fear for our next manager-make no mistake the next manager will fail-whoever it is!……the club is being poorly run from top to bottom- decision aren’t being made or put on hold, no clarity is coming from India, everyone at the club is in a constant state of limbo.
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The club is in downward spiral at this moment in time with no sunshine on the horizon …I just hope the Venkeys realise now, that EPL football isn’t how they imagined it was going to be -that the bad publicity is having a negative effect on their core businesses, hopefully they decide to sell up. I honestly can’t see what they can possible achieve being owners of BRFC now, when it seems everything is increasingly against them.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Well said that man. I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ? Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW ![/p][/quote]I agree Keen position is now untenable …I hoped he could have turned it around -the Norwich game gave me renewed hope and I tried to muster up support.. now that’s gone! -if action isn’t taken immediately then it’ll be too late. . Kean isn’t the problem though -the owners are…the team isn’t playing great and Keen increasingly looks out of his depth …..I honestly believe the Venkeys have made Keen’s job hundred times harder than it should have been, no manager would have coped in similar circumstance never mind a rooky - . I fear for our next manager-make no mistake the next manager will fail-whoever it is!……the club is being poorly run from top to bottom- decision aren’t being made or put on hold, no clarity is coming from India, everyone at the club is in a constant state of limbo. . The club is in downward spiral at this moment in time with no sunshine on the horizon …I just hope the Venkeys realise now, that EPL football isn’t how they imagined it was going to be -that the bad publicity is having a negative effect on their core businesses, hopefully they decide to sell up. I honestly can’t see what they can possible achieve being owners of BRFC now, when it seems everything is increasingly against them. Iii1111
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3:24pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Only1Garner says...

OMG!!! Just heard TalkSport say unconfirmed reports about Kean signing a new contract. Thats it for me after 40 years, I will not let these IDIOTS have another penny of mine.
GOD BLESS ROVERS, they need it.
KEAN OUT!!! VENKYs OUT!!!
OMG!!! Just heard TalkSport say unconfirmed reports about Kean signing a new contract. Thats it for me after 40 years, I will not let these IDIOTS have another penny of mine. GOD BLESS ROVERS, they need it. KEAN OUT!!! VENKYs OUT!!! Only1Garner
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3:29pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ChrisSutton says...

saint.george wrote:
Yes, looks like we're dead

http://www.mirrorfoo

tball.co.uk/news/Ste

ve-Kean-seals-new-Bl

ackburn-deal-article

833461.html
Well we are relegated then. 26 games left and as has been proved by his tenure thus far, Kean is not capable of stringing a run of results together.

I'm beyond stunned at the news of his improved contract. After Venkys saw the fan unrest and anti-Venkys/Kean chants first hand on Saturday, this is nothing short of two fingers up to every single Rovers fan.

Even if you're not a Rovers fan, you have to think - why, in a world of business, supply and demand, is an improved contract even necessary? In football a new contract with improved terms is usually offered on the basis there are other parties out there who would hire said employee, the increase in money usually reflecting their value.

Well is there ANY club up and down the land who would want Steve Kean as manager right now? I don't see a queue of clubs after him. Forget about the issue of even sacking him. Why is it necessary for an improved contract?

F-Venkys, F-Kean and RIP Blackburn Rovers. I think I'm done. I will not be attending Ewood again until this slimy little weasal Kean is removed. I can't bear to see his sh!t-eating grin again, he doesn't deserve a single penny from Rovers.
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]saint.george[/bold] wrote: Yes, looks like we're dead http://www.mirrorfoo tball.co.uk/news/Ste ve-Kean-seals-new-Bl ackburn-deal-article 833461.html[/p][/quote]Well we are relegated then. 26 games left and as has been proved by his tenure thus far, Kean is not capable of stringing a run of results together. I'm beyond stunned at the news of his improved contract. After Venkys saw the fan unrest and anti-Venkys/Kean chants first hand on Saturday, this is nothing short of two fingers up to every single Rovers fan. Even if you're not a Rovers fan, you have to think - why, in a world of business, supply and demand, is an improved contract even necessary? In football a new contract with improved terms is usually offered on the basis there are other parties out there who would hire said employee, the increase in money usually reflecting their value. Well is there ANY club up and down the land who would want Steve Kean as manager right now? I don't see a queue of clubs after him. Forget about the issue of even sacking him. Why is it necessary for an improved contract? F-Venkys, F-Kean and RIP Blackburn Rovers. I think I'm done. I will not be attending Ewood again until this slimy little weasal Kean is removed. I can't bear to see his sh!t-eating grin again, he doesn't deserve a single penny from Rovers. -D.K.O ChrisSutton
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3:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

valleyblue says...

I stood on the Blackburn end for the first time in 1974,and am afraid that after todays news I will not be setting foot inside ewood or investing any of my hard earned cash in mercandise to line the pockets of these asset stripping thieves.That`s it for me until this regime is out of Ewood.

ROVER AND OUT!!!!!!!
I stood on the Blackburn end for the first time in 1974,and am afraid that after todays news I will not be setting foot inside ewood or investing any of my hard earned cash in mercandise to line the pockets of these asset stripping thieves.That`s it for me until this regime is out of Ewood. ROVER AND OUT!!!!!!! valleyblue
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3:37pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

petergray wrote:
The only sensible suggestion I can make is for a peaceful sit-in on the pitch before kick-off next home game.
lol be funny that they would turn the water pipe thingys that come out the pitch on us ha ha, nah what we need is solidarity between all supporters now I think, its us they are hurting.
[quote][p][bold]petergray[/bold] wrote: The only sensible suggestion I can make is for a peaceful sit-in on the pitch before kick-off next home game.[/p][/quote]lol be funny that they would turn the water pipe thingys that come out the pitch on us ha ha, nah what we need is solidarity between all supporters now I think, its us they are hurting. Russ ov the rovers
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3:37pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Gaz M says...

Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!
Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!! Gaz M
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3:41pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

Come on Blackburn Rovers supporters what are we going to do?

I for one do not know anymore I really dont, as many have said in the past maybe stop going to matches that will kill most of us but what can we do?
Come on Blackburn Rovers supporters what are we going to do? I for one do not know anymore I really dont, as many have said in the past maybe stop going to matches that will kill most of us but what can we do? Russ ov the rovers
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3:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11

formerover says...

It probably won't make any difference but I'm finished with them they saw enough on Saturday to understand how the majority feel and they do this. Total disregard to the fans the club the sponsors even, relegation is a certainty now make no mistake. Total chaos from top to bottom judge us in a year they said, well your **** **** you cuntbags. The fuckwit said at the end of august judge me now well you to are **** **** with your 18% win ratio. Get these **** investigated please.
It probably won't make any difference but I'm finished with them they saw enough on Saturday to understand how the majority feel and they do this. Total disregard to the fans the club the sponsors even, relegation is a certainty now make no mistake. Total chaos from top to bottom judge us in a year they said, well your **** **** you cuntbags. The fuckwit said at the end of august judge me now well you to are **** **** with your 18% win ratio. Get these **** investigated please. formerover
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3:44pm Tue 22 Nov 11

formerover says...

It probably won't make any difference but I'm finished with them they saw enough on Saturday to understand how the majority feel and they do this. Total disregard to the fans the club the sponsors even, relegation is a certainty now make no mistake. Total chaos from top to bottom judge us in a year they said, well your **** **** you cuntbags. The fuckwit said at the end of august judge me now well you to are **** **** with your 18% win ratio. Get these **** investigated please.
It probably won't make any difference but I'm finished with them they saw enough on Saturday to understand how the majority feel and they do this. Total disregard to the fans the club the sponsors even, relegation is a certainty now make no mistake. Total chaos from top to bottom judge us in a year they said, well your **** **** you cuntbags. The fuckwit said at the end of august judge me now well you to are **** **** with your 18% win ratio. Get these **** investigated please. formerover
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3:44pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RoversLoyal says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all. RoversLoyal
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3:45pm Tue 22 Nov 11

bypass06 says...

Some reports suggests Kean signed the contract 2 weeks ago, and Nixon of the mirror is just sh$t stirring.
Some reports suggests Kean signed the contract 2 weeks ago, and Nixon of the mirror is just sh$t stirring. bypass06
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3:45pm Tue 22 Nov 11

formerover says...

It probably won't make any difference but I'm finished with them they saw enough on Saturday to understand how the majority feel and they do this. Total disregard to the fans the club the sponsors even, relegation is a certainty now make no mistake. Total chaos from top to bottom judge us in a year they said, well your **** **** you cuntbags. The fuckwit said at the end of august judge me now well you to are **** **** with your 18% win ratio. Get these **** investigated please.
It probably won't make any difference but I'm finished with them they saw enough on Saturday to understand how the majority feel and they do this. Total disregard to the fans the club the sponsors even, relegation is a certainty now make no mistake. Total chaos from top to bottom judge us in a year they said, well your **** **** you cuntbags. The fuckwit said at the end of august judge me now well you to are **** **** with your 18% win ratio. Get these **** investigated please. formerover
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3:49pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that. Russ ov the rovers
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3:49pm Tue 22 Nov 11

thelincolnshirepoacher says...

Is it not time folks that we get a figurehead to take the concerns of the fans forward, someone like Simon Garner who has already stated how concerned he is with Venky's ? does anybody have contact with the great man ? imagine the clout if we can get Simon to attend a match and tell it as it is, Bloody Shambolic, and a disgrace to every Rovers fan out there.
Is it not time folks that we get a figurehead to take the concerns of the fans forward, someone like Simon Garner who has already stated how concerned he is with Venky's ? does anybody have contact with the great man ? imagine the clout if we can get Simon to attend a match and tell it as it is, Bloody Shambolic, and a disgrace to every Rovers fan out there. thelincolnshirepoacher
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3:49pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RoversLoyal says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach




er
wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten. RoversLoyal
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3:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Bazzer says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.
I will second that.
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.[/p][/quote]I will second that. Bazzer
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3:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

Skysports has not yet said anything about a new contract for Kean but my mate said the other day (and has reasonable Rovers contacts) that he had heard that the new contract increased Keans wage BUT reduced his current contract termination clause from 12 months to only 6 months and that Kean was REALLY REALLY unhappy about it and that is why it had been rumoured for weeks without anything being signed - but that info was not from a rock solid source unlike yesterday when I posted that Rovers HAD been contacted by QP (despite what Mrs D said) - that info came directly to me from within Rovers.
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If he does sign a new contract then I prey to God that my mates info is right !!
Skysports has not yet said anything about a new contract for Kean but my mate said the other day (and has reasonable Rovers contacts) that he had heard that the new contract increased Keans wage BUT reduced his current contract termination clause from 12 months to only 6 months and that Kean was REALLY REALLY unhappy about it and that is why it had been rumoured for weeks without anything being signed - but that info was not from a rock solid source unlike yesterday when I posted that Rovers HAD been contacted by QP (despite what Mrs D said) - that info came directly to me from within Rovers. . If he does sign a new contract then I prey to God that my mates info is right !! J.C - Rishton
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3:52pm Tue 22 Nov 11

thelincolnshirepoacher says...

Is it not time folks that we get a figurehead to take the concerns of the fans forward, someone like Simon Garner who has already stated how concerned he is with Venky's ? does anybody have contact with the great man ? imagine the clout if we can get Simon to attend a match and tell it as it is, Bloody Shambolic, and a disgrace to every Rovers fan out there.
Is it not time folks that we get a figurehead to take the concerns of the fans forward, someone like Simon Garner who has already stated how concerned he is with Venky's ? does anybody have contact with the great man ? imagine the clout if we can get Simon to attend a match and tell it as it is, Bloody Shambolic, and a disgrace to every Rovers fan out there. thelincolnshirepoacher
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3:53pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RoversLoyal says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs.

I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls. RoversLoyal
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3:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ChrisSutton says...

bypass06 wrote:
Some reports suggests Kean signed the contract 2 weeks ago, and Nixon of the mirror is just sh$t stirring.
That has no baring on this whatsoever. Whether he signed the new contract 1, 2 or even 3 weeks ago is still nothing short of an utter disgrace. No wonder the slimy little weasal was giving it large to the Rovers fans at the end of the Wigan game. He's having the last laugh.

This little toad is on big bucks at the end of the day (dare I say, probably earning more money then Rovers fans who contribute here), with absolute no consequence of fan unrest, off-field disgraces, and more importantly: results.

Something is rotten to the core at Rovers right now, and Kean and Venkys and whatever dodgy business they're doing is at the heart of it. We need to ensure the Premier League investigate this, as in my eyes, this new contract just screams dodgy goings on to me.

RIP Blackburn Rovers.
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]bypass06[/bold] wrote: Some reports suggests Kean signed the contract 2 weeks ago, and Nixon of the mirror is just sh$t stirring.[/p][/quote]That has no baring on this whatsoever. Whether he signed the new contract 1, 2 or even 3 weeks ago is still nothing short of an utter disgrace. No wonder the slimy little weasal was giving it large to the Rovers fans at the end of the Wigan game. He's having the last laugh. This little toad is on big bucks at the end of the day (dare I say, probably earning more money then Rovers fans who contribute here), with absolute no consequence of fan unrest, off-field disgraces, and more importantly: results. Something is rotten to the core at Rovers right now, and Kean and Venkys and whatever dodgy business they're doing is at the heart of it. We need to ensure the Premier League investigate this, as in my eyes, this new contract just screams dodgy goings on to me. RIP Blackburn Rovers. -D.K.O ChrisSutton
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3:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

Bazzer wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.
I will second that.
And I think we need to focus on the real villains here - VENKYS and their slimey yes man Kean - ALL fans need to start pulling in the same direction.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.[/p][/quote]I will second that.[/p][/quote]And I think we need to focus on the real villains here - VENKYS and their slimey yes man Kean - ALL fans need to start pulling in the same direction. J.C - Rishton
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3:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

BJS says...

Kean is only the lacky. The saying goes, " a rotten fish always stinks from the head." Venky's are responsible for the demise of the club. They go and Kean will surely follow. Trouble is they seem hell bent on staying and I firmly believe they'll only go after they've milked the club dry. Nothing else makes sense any more
Kean is only the lacky. The saying goes, " a rotten fish always stinks from the head." Venky's are responsible for the demise of the club. They go and Kean will surely follow. Trouble is they seem hell bent on staying and I firmly believe they'll only go after they've milked the club dry. Nothing else makes sense any more BJS
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3:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RoversLoyal says...

Bazzer wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.
I will second that.
Cheers Bazzer; her conduct was deplorable.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.[/p][/quote]I will second that.[/p][/quote]Cheers Bazzer; her conduct was deplorable. RoversLoyal
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3:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

BJS says...

Kean is only the lacky. The saying goes, " a rotten fish always stinks from the head." Venky's are responsible for the demise of the club. They go and Kean will surely follow. Trouble is they seem hell bent on staying and I firmly believe they'll only go after they've milked the club dry. Nothing else makes sense any more
Kean is only the lacky. The saying goes, " a rotten fish always stinks from the head." Venky's are responsible for the demise of the club. They go and Kean will surely follow. Trouble is they seem hell bent on staying and I firmly believe they'll only go after they've milked the club dry. Nothing else makes sense any more BJS
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3:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Jansen_10 says...

What the actual f**k is going on. Kean's got a new contract AND they've removed the lower golden handshake clause at the 'last minute of negotiations'?!?

They're actually taking the PlSS out of us now!

I'm guessing they've forgotten about Hoilett's contract? PRlCKS
What the actual f**k is going on. Kean's got a new contract AND they've removed the lower golden handshake clause at the 'last minute of negotiations'?!? They're actually taking the PlSS out of us now! I'm guessing they've forgotten about Hoilett's contract? PRlCKS Jansen_10
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4:00pm Tue 22 Nov 11

BJS says...

Kean's job is to take the flack on their behalf. On that basis he's done very well and has been rewarded appropriately. It's time the fans got a bit of help from the players. Surely they can see what's going on. If so someone should break ranks and speak out!
Kean's job is to take the flack on their behalf. On that basis he's done very well and has been rewarded appropriately. It's time the fans got a bit of help from the players. Surely they can see what's going on. If so someone should break ranks and speak out! BJS
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4:00pm Tue 22 Nov 11

BJS says...

Kean's job is to take the flack on their behalf. On that basis he's done very well and has been rewarded appropriately. It's time the fans got a bit of help from the players. Surely they can see what's going on. If so someone should break ranks and speak out!
Kean's job is to take the flack on their behalf. On that basis he's done very well and has been rewarded appropriately. It's time the fans got a bit of help from the players. Surely they can see what's going on. If so someone should break ranks and speak out! BJS
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4:03pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Bazzer wrote:
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
fiftyphead wrote: Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?
I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out. . 33rd
We were not too impatient. We were perceptive. You lot dawdled and procrastinated. Stop scoring points and come on board and protest like hell. And I really do not want to hear that Venkys are "naive" anymore, either.

Remember the Bhatti brothers!!!
Wrong Bazzer - some of us gave it the right length of time!
.
But I agree we need to move forward together now with "constructive" points to remove Wile E Coyote - beep beep!
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fiftyphead[/bold] wrote: Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?[/p][/quote]I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out. . 33rd[/p][/quote]We were not too impatient. We were perceptive. You lot dawdled and procrastinated. Stop scoring points and come on board and protest like hell. And I really do not want to hear that Venkys are "naive" anymore, either. Remember the Bhatti brothers!!![/p][/quote]Wrong Bazzer - some of us gave it the right length of time! . But I agree we need to move forward together now with "constructive" points to remove Wile E Coyote - beep beep! Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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4:07pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and .... Russ ov the rovers
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4:07pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ChrisSutton says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs.

I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc.

BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book.

Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore.

It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future.
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc. BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book. Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore. It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future. -D.K.O ChrisSutton
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4:09pm Tue 22 Nov 11

petergray says...

PLEASE, PLEASE CAN I ASK ALL ROVERS FANS.

DO NO STAY AWAY.

GO TO ALL THE GAMES YOU CAN.

LET'S GIVE 'EM HELL
PLEASE, PLEASE CAN I ASK ALL ROVERS FANS. DO NO STAY AWAY. GO TO ALL THE GAMES YOU CAN. LET'S GIVE 'EM HELL petergray
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4:09pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

Gaz M wrote:
Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!
Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder?
[quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!![/p][/quote]Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder? alfa111
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4:12pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty.

Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light! Melanie :-)
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4:14pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

alfa111 wrote:
Gaz M wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!
Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder?
Do you need a spotter?
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!![/p][/quote]Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder?[/p][/quote]Do you need a spotter? Russ ov the rovers
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4:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

Iii1111 wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote: Well said that man. I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ? Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW !
I agree Keen position is now untenable …I hoped he could have turned it around -the Norwich game gave me renewed hope and I tried to muster up support.. now that’s gone! -if action isn’t taken immediately then it’ll be too late. . Kean isn’t the problem though -the owners are…the team isn’t playing great and Keen increasingly looks out of his depth …..I honestly believe the Venkeys have made Keen’s job hundred times harder than it should have been, no manager would have coped in similar circumstance never mind a rooky - . I fear for our next manager-make no mistake the next manager will fail-whoever it is!……the club is being poorly run from top to bottom- decision aren’t being made or put on hold, no clarity is coming from India, everyone at the club is in a constant state of limbo. . The club is in downward spiral at this moment in time with no sunshine on the horizon …I just hope the Venkeys realise now, that EPL football isn’t how they imagined it was going to be -that the bad publicity is having a negative effect on their core businesses, hopefully they decide to sell up. I honestly can’t see what they can possible achieve being owners of BRFC now, when it seems everything is increasingly against them.
Very refresheng to here my past comments by you sir
[quote][p][bold]Iii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Well said that man. I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ? Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW ![/p][/quote]I agree Keen position is now untenable …I hoped he could have turned it around -the Norwich game gave me renewed hope and I tried to muster up support.. now that’s gone! -if action isn’t taken immediately then it’ll be too late. . Kean isn’t the problem though -the owners are…the team isn’t playing great and Keen increasingly looks out of his depth …..I honestly believe the Venkeys have made Keen’s job hundred times harder than it should have been, no manager would have coped in similar circumstance never mind a rooky - . I fear for our next manager-make no mistake the next manager will fail-whoever it is!……the club is being poorly run from top to bottom- decision aren’t being made or put on hold, no clarity is coming from India, everyone at the club is in a constant state of limbo. . The club is in downward spiral at this moment in time with no sunshine on the horizon …I just hope the Venkeys realise now, that EPL football isn’t how they imagined it was going to be -that the bad publicity is having a negative effect on their core businesses, hopefully they decide to sell up. I honestly can’t see what they can possible achieve being owners of BRFC now, when it seems everything is increasingly against them.[/p][/quote]Very refresheng to here my past comments by you sir alfa111
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4:18pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs.

I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc.

BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book.

Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore.

It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future.
-D.K.O
That was a touching post ChrisSutton!

And well said!!

I understand RoversLoyal, he cuts a little too close to the bone sometimes and is lucky in some ways not to have been blocked by LT... but he is very funny, writes well and makes good points too!!!

There is no doubting his genuine concern and passion.

RoversLoyal's ongoing saga with KDG was funny and in some way it was/is symbolic of the rift and civil war between the fans....

... come on RovbersLoyal, takes ChrisSuttons advice! Shake cyber hands with those who have now seen sense!!!

Don't be consumed by hate!
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc. BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book. Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore. It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]That was a touching post ChrisSutton! And well said!! I understand RoversLoyal, he cuts a little too close to the bone sometimes and is lucky in some ways not to have been blocked by LT... but he is very funny, writes well and makes good points too!!! There is no doubting his genuine concern and passion. RoversLoyal's ongoing saga with KDG was funny and in some way it was/is symbolic of the rift and civil war between the fans.... ... come on RovbersLoyal, takes ChrisSuttons advice! Shake cyber hands with those who have now seen sense!!! Don't be consumed by hate! Melanie :-)
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4:22pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty.

Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
Thanks Melanie I must remember to post one of RoverLoyals juicier posts to me, then you can see how warped he really is, just ask and I will gladly oblige, I saved them all for future reference:0)
But if you like weirdos' go on girl knock yersel out.
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]Thanks Melanie I must remember to post one of RoverLoyals juicier posts to me, then you can see how warped he really is, just ask and I will gladly oblige, I saved them all for future reference:0) But if you like weirdos' go on girl knock yersel out. Keep Darwen Green
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4:25pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.
The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O
What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".
Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.
Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??
Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.
I will second that.
Cheers Bazzer; her conduct was deplorable.
I agree... she is not a nice person. I am a woman footballer and she makes me sooooo angry.... she is so disruptive....but it is time to draw a line.

Even Keep Darwen Green admits that RoversLoyal and the other lads on here have been right all along.

RoversLoyal and others should feel good about that and take satisfaction in it it.

Be dignified in victory!
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.[/p][/quote]The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".[/p][/quote]Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.[/p][/quote]Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??[/p][/quote]Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.[/p][/quote]I will second that.[/p][/quote]Cheers Bazzer; her conduct was deplorable.[/p][/quote]I agree... she is not a nice person. I am a woman footballer and she makes me sooooo angry.... she is so disruptive....but it is time to draw a line. Even Keep Darwen Green admits that RoversLoyal and the other lads on here have been right all along. RoversLoyal and others should feel good about that and take satisfaction in it it. Be dignified in victory! Melanie :-)
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4:26pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Big Sams Blue & White Army says...

This is the kind of support we need to prove how bad the Venky's really are
This is the kind of support we need to prove how bad the Venky's really are Big Sams Blue & White Army
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4:27pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfiebarnes says...

What a great contribution from Mr Wild and one they can't just kick into the long grass. Venky's are a disgrace just in terms of their contempt for the ordinary folk of a fine old town with a football tradition hardly surpassed in the world. But having no shame they'll probably ignore this devastating blast.
What a great contribution from Mr Wild and one they can't just kick into the long grass. Venky's are a disgrace just in terms of their contempt for the ordinary folk of a fine old town with a football tradition hardly surpassed in the world. But having no shame they'll probably ignore this devastating blast. alfiebarnes
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4:28pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty.

Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
Thanks Melanie I must remember to post one of RoverLoyals juicier posts to me, then you can see how warped he really is, just ask and I will gladly oblige, I saved them all for future reference:0)
But if you like weirdos' go on girl knock yersel out.
You are strange KDG.

You remind me of bunny boiler in Fatal Attraction.

I enjoyed reading his posts... you made my toes curl with embarrassment but i don't want to fight with you.

Come on RoversLoyal, let it go... you were right, KDG and others were wrong!

They admit now!!!

Be dignified in victory.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]Thanks Melanie I must remember to post one of RoverLoyals juicier posts to me, then you can see how warped he really is, just ask and I will gladly oblige, I saved them all for future reference:0) But if you like weirdos' go on girl knock yersel out.[/p][/quote]You are strange KDG. You remind me of bunny boiler in Fatal Attraction. I enjoyed reading his posts... you made my toes curl with embarrassment but i don't want to fight with you. Come on RoversLoyal, let it go... you were right, KDG and others were wrong! They admit now!!! Be dignified in victory. Melanie :-)
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4:28pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc. BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book. Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore. It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future. -D.K.O
That was a touching post ChrisSutton! And well said!! I understand RoversLoyal, he cuts a little too close to the bone sometimes and is lucky in some ways not to have been blocked by LT... but he is very funny, writes well and makes good points too!!! There is no doubting his genuine concern and passion. RoversLoyal's ongoing saga with KDG was funny and in some way it was/is symbolic of the rift and civil war between the fans.... ... come on RovbersLoyal, takes ChrisSuttons advice! Shake cyber hands with those who have now seen sense!!! Don't be consumed by hate!
Here here, there is still an element that just dont want to let bygones be bygones though i just ask them to speak to the hand
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc. BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book. Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore. It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]That was a touching post ChrisSutton! And well said!! I understand RoversLoyal, he cuts a little too close to the bone sometimes and is lucky in some ways not to have been blocked by LT... but he is very funny, writes well and makes good points too!!! There is no doubting his genuine concern and passion. RoversLoyal's ongoing saga with KDG was funny and in some way it was/is symbolic of the rift and civil war between the fans.... ... come on RovbersLoyal, takes ChrisSuttons advice! Shake cyber hands with those who have now seen sense!!! Don't be consumed by hate![/p][/quote]Here here, there is still an element that just dont want to let bygones be bygones though i just ask them to speak to the hand alfa111
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4:29pm Tue 22 Nov 11

maggie-T says...

hawaii 5-0 wrote:
What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions?

When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview.

i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans.

When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3.

C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation?
Since when has it been the LETs job to take responsibility for what's happening at deadwood?
Your all complaining, and yet you all wanted a big conglomerate to come and take over in the hope that it might make you a big club, you wanted Sam allerdyce out, you got your wishes, don't whine and winge now, and the good old walker trust? They sold you out too, roll on the fire sale!!
The fun has only just begun!!
[quote][p][bold]hawaii 5-0[/bold] wrote: What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions? When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview. i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans. When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3. C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation?[/p][/quote]Since when has it been the LETs job to take responsibility for what's happening at deadwood? Your all complaining, and yet you all wanted a big conglomerate to come and take over in the hope that it might make you a big club, you wanted Sam allerdyce out, you got your wishes, don't whine and winge now, and the good old walker trust? They sold you out too, roll on the fire sale!! The fun has only just begun!! maggie-T
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4:29pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them. Russ ov the rovers
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4:32pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too? Melanie :-)
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4:32pm Tue 22 Nov 11

formerover says...

Gaz M wrote:
Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!
My brother trains royal marine snipers no joke haha.
[quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!![/p][/quote]My brother trains royal marine snipers no joke haha. formerover
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4:39pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RoversLoyal says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!!

THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME!

Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback.

Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic!

She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well.

Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along.

I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-)

I am very very worried about the club though.
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!! THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME! Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback. Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic! She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well. Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along. I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-) I am very very worried about the club though. RoversLoyal
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4:41pm Tue 22 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
Gaz M wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!
Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder?
Do you need a spotter?
Russ if the time comes i shall gladly use you with your exemplary communications fella
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!![/p][/quote]Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder?[/p][/quote]Do you need a spotter?[/p][/quote]Russ if the time comes i shall gladly use you with your exemplary communications fella alfa111
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4:42pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I have had my fall outs with KDG and we have both said things to each other that probably shouldnt have been said - but this continued digging at her is WAY out of order.
.
I would like say though that KDG and others (Ricktvr, Wildrover, Ii1111 etc) are not and have not been "wrong" in all this. They have said all along that they were perpared to give SK "time" - now they all say "his time is up" - that is not "being wrong", that is simply giving him more of a chance to prove himself than most of us did.
.
Like CS said - we need to come together stop any infighting and focus the "villans" - Venkys !!
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I have had my fall outs with KDG and we have both said things to each other that probably shouldnt have been said - but this continued digging at her is WAY out of order. . I would like say though that KDG and others (Ricktvr, Wildrover, Ii1111 etc) are not and have not been "wrong" in all this. They have said all along that they were perpared to give SK "time" - now they all say "his time is up" - that is not "being wrong", that is simply giving him more of a chance to prove himself than most of us did. . Like CS said - we need to come together stop any infighting and focus the "villans" - Venkys !! J.C - Rishton
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4:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Nellie 77 says...

For me this is the lowest point in followin my beloved Rovers for 26 years. This is me well and truly tipped over the edge. I have given Kean and Venkys more time than they have earned. Not sure what I am gonna do but I am gonna fight like f~~k to get these disrespectful, arragont idiots out of our once great club. I and many other Rovers fans have more passion and love for this club in one of our fast greying hairs than Kean/Venkys/Anderson put together. If we had owners who understood the game Kean wouldve been long gone by now. In fact he would never of been manager in the first place. This is what is so depressing about the current situation and any thoughts for Rovers future. The Venkys do not understand football.
For me this is the lowest point in followin my beloved Rovers for 26 years. This is me well and truly tipped over the edge. I have given Kean and Venkys more time than they have earned. Not sure what I am gonna do but I am gonna fight like f~~k to get these disrespectful, arragont idiots out of our once great club. I and many other Rovers fans have more passion and love for this club in one of our fast greying hairs than Kean/Venkys/Anderson put together. If we had owners who understood the game Kean wouldve been long gone by now. In fact he would never of been manager in the first place. This is what is so depressing about the current situation and any thoughts for Rovers future. The Venkys do not understand football. Nellie 77
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4:44pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0)
COYB
Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0) COYB Keep Darwen Green
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4:48pm Tue 22 Nov 11

bring back the good old days says...

If just half of everyones suspicions, or beliefs are true, is there no way that an investigation into their 'financing activities' could be urged tobe looked into by the FA, or whoever?
I think that we all know that just mere supporters have no power whatsoever to discredit Venky's as that is what I assume we all want (if they are actually dealing illegally at BRFC expense).
If found to be doing so, that is about the best way to cause them pain.
There is the forum tonight where it would be good if suggestions were made to enact this and maybe Mr Wild would have some valuable experienced thoughts on this.
If just half of everyones suspicions, or beliefs are true, is there no way that an investigation into their 'financing activities' could be urged tobe looked into by the FA, or whoever? I think that we all know that just mere supporters have no power whatsoever to discredit Venky's as that is what I assume we all want (if they are actually dealing illegally at BRFC expense). If found to be doing so, that is about the best way to cause them pain. There is the forum tonight where it would be good if suggestions were made to enact this and maybe Mr Wild would have some valuable experienced thoughts on this. bring back the good old days
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4:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!!

THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME!

Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback.

Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic!

She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well.

Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along.

I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-)

I am very very worried about the club though.
VICTORY ??? - what victory ??
.
She said she'd give him more time, now she said "he's had his chance and failed" - she never said "Kean is God".
.
I had many "arguments with KDG" as far back as June when I was predicting this to be a disasterous season if we didnt buy big and early in the transfer market - do I feel VICTORIOUS today because my words have proved to be right ?? - NO, I feel desperately unhappy that we are 19th in the EPL and seemingly heading for the championship.
.
I would love Rovers to win the next few games under SK (if, God forbid, he's still here) and if so I will come on here and say to KDG, Wildrover etc - you were right to give him more time cos he's finally come good !! (although I don't expect this to happen and if it were up to me his feet wouldnt touch the ground).
.
Why do I want to do this - because WE NEED TO WIN FOOTBALL MATCHES not massage our own over inflated ego's !
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!! THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME! Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback. Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic! She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well. Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along. I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-) I am very very worried about the club though.[/p][/quote]VICTORY ??? - what victory ?? . She said she'd give him more time, now she said "he's had his chance and failed" - she never said "Kean is God". . I had many "arguments with KDG" as far back as June when I was predicting this to be a disasterous season if we didnt buy big and early in the transfer market - do I feel VICTORIOUS today because my words have proved to be right ?? - NO, I feel desperately unhappy that we are 19th in the EPL and seemingly heading for the championship. . I would love Rovers to win the next few games under SK (if, God forbid, he's still here) and if so I will come on here and say to KDG, Wildrover etc - you were right to give him more time cos he's finally come good !! (although I don't expect this to happen and if it were up to me his feet wouldnt touch the ground). . Why do I want to do this - because WE NEED TO WIN FOOTBALL MATCHES not massage our own over inflated ego's ! J.C - Rishton
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4:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0)
COYB
But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too.

BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out!

KDG, what school do you go to?

I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team?

Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0) COYB[/p][/quote]But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too. BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out! KDG, what school do you go to? I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team? Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler. Melanie :-)
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4:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!!

THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME!

Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback.

Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic!

She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well.

Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along.

I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-)

I am very very worried about the club though.
VICTORY ??? - what victory ??
.
She said she'd give him more time, now she said "he's had his chance and failed" - she never said "Kean is God".
.
I had many "arguments with KDG" as far back as June when I was predicting this to be a disasterous season if we didnt buy big and early in the transfer market - do I feel VICTORIOUS today because my words have proved to be right ?? - NO, I feel desperately unhappy that we are 19th in the EPL and seemingly heading for the championship.
.
I would love Rovers to win the next few games under SK (if, God forbid, he's still here) and if so I will come on here and say to KDG, Wildrover etc - you were right to give him more time cos he's finally come good !! (although I don't expect this to happen and if it were up to me his feet wouldnt touch the ground).
.
Why do I want to do this - because WE NEED TO WIN FOOTBALL MATCHES not massage our own over inflated ego's !
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!! THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME! Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback. Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic! She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well. Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along. I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-) I am very very worried about the club though.[/p][/quote]VICTORY ??? - what victory ?? . She said she'd give him more time, now she said "he's had his chance and failed" - she never said "Kean is God". . I had many "arguments with KDG" as far back as June when I was predicting this to be a disasterous season if we didnt buy big and early in the transfer market - do I feel VICTORIOUS today because my words have proved to be right ?? - NO, I feel desperately unhappy that we are 19th in the EPL and seemingly heading for the championship. . I would love Rovers to win the next few games under SK (if, God forbid, he's still here) and if so I will come on here and say to KDG, Wildrover etc - you were right to give him more time cos he's finally come good !! (although I don't expect this to happen and if it were up to me his feet wouldnt touch the ground). . Why do I want to do this - because WE NEED TO WIN FOOTBALL MATCHES not massage our own over inflated ego's ! J.C - Rishton
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4:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Iii1111 says...

RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
“respect” no thanks……just crawl back under the nearest stone……the most divisive poster on here trying to cause trouble between fans and few idiots actually ’respect’ you… now that is sad :-D
[quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]“respect” no thanks……just crawl back under the nearest stone……the most divisive poster on here trying to cause trouble between fans and few idiots actually ’respect’ you… now that is sad :-D Iii1111
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4:56pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football.
What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces?
what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals.
In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season.
Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan?
What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time?
Do you like cheese? :0)
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football. What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces? what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals. In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season. Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan? What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time? Do you like cheese? :0) Keep Darwen Green
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4:59pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Rovers17 says...

There is only one solution - stop going to games, hit them in the pocket - this cant be about supporting Rovers and needing to go to games to show it, there is no Rovers as we know it anymore. How can anyone, anywhere justify giving the most incompetent Manager in the PL a new contract and more cash. The Venky's are raising 2 fingers at every fan. There is something very sinister going on
There is only one solution - stop going to games, hit them in the pocket - this cant be about supporting Rovers and needing to go to games to show it, there is no Rovers as we know it anymore. How can anyone, anywhere justify giving the most incompetent Manager in the PL a new contract and more cash. The Venky's are raising 2 fingers at every fan. There is something very sinister going on Rovers17
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4:59pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

JC - these guys were right. PLEASE STOP ARGUING!

RoversLoyal and many many others warned many times about what was going bad!!!

PLEASE STOP BEING SO BAD TEMPERED ALL THE TIME!

Why can't you guys just admit you got it wrong and move forward with the protesters - together!!!

It makes me sad to read your angry posts.

Leave people alone who do not agree with you - one thing RoversLoyal and many many others said was... the Kean/Venky's people and their friends are very aggressive and insulting - you do not listen to the fans!! JC - listen to the fans!!!!

NO MORE CIVIL WAR!!!
JC - these guys were right. PLEASE STOP ARGUING! RoversLoyal and many many others warned many times about what was going bad!!! PLEASE STOP BEING SO BAD TEMPERED ALL THE TIME! Why can't you guys just admit you got it wrong and move forward with the protesters - together!!! It makes me sad to read your angry posts. Leave people alone who do not agree with you - one thing RoversLoyal and many many others said was... the Kean/Venky's people and their friends are very aggressive and insulting - you do not listen to the fans!! JC - listen to the fans!!!! NO MORE CIVIL WAR!!! Melanie :-)
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5:05pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0)
COYB
But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too.

BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out!

KDG, what school do you go to?

I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team?

Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler.
Call me what you like, I'm not easily offended, all I care about Rovers thats all.
I don't go to school I'm way too old. Someones pulling your leg with that one.
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0) COYB[/p][/quote]But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too. BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out! KDG, what school do you go to? I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team? Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler.[/p][/quote]Call me what you like, I'm not easily offended, all I care about Rovers thats all. I don't go to school I'm way too old. Someones pulling your leg with that one. Keep Darwen Green
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5:09pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Smivers says...

How on earth did Venky's get control of this club? Surely the FA should have some questions to answer after letting these idiots loose on the club. What happened during all those pre buyout checks and why wasn't any of this situation forcast? It wasn't difficult to see that there only interest was to use the club to enhance there business, not to provide for fans or businesses involved with the club. Even if they didn't spot it at the time, they have some nerve sitting back and watching the club crumble. The checks were put into place to prevent what happened to Portsmouth happening again, looks like they worked well didn't they?
How on earth did Venky's get control of this club? Surely the FA should have some questions to answer after letting these idiots loose on the club. What happened during all those pre buyout checks and why wasn't any of this situation forcast? It wasn't difficult to see that there only interest was to use the club to enhance there business, not to provide for fans or businesses involved with the club. Even if they didn't spot it at the time, they have some nerve sitting back and watching the club crumble. The checks were put into place to prevent what happened to Portsmouth happening again, looks like they worked well didn't they? Smivers
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5:15pm Tue 22 Nov 11

thelincolnshirepoacher says...

Folks, please listen into the debate tonight at 6pm on Radio Lancashire, txt, email or phone in to show them how Venky's have to go, after the shambolic way that Rovers are being run.

here are the contact details:

TXT 81333 start your txt with the word Lancs

Email:
radio.lancashire@bbc
.co.uk

Or phone 583583.

Let's give Venky's a real rocket.

As I listen live AT 17:15 there are already loads of stuff being sent to Radio Lancs,

Let's give them HELL !
Folks, please listen into the debate tonight at 6pm on Radio Lancashire, txt, email or phone in to show them how Venky's have to go, after the shambolic way that Rovers are being run. here are the contact details: TXT 81333 start your txt with the word Lancs Email: radio.lancashire@bbc .co.uk Or phone 583583. Let's give Venky's a real rocket. As I listen live AT 17:15 there are already loads of stuff being sent to Radio Lancs, Let's give them HELL ! thelincolnshirepoacher
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5:24pm Tue 22 Nov 11

bburnrover says...

The main concern is not the sponsorship companies it is the fans because more and more of us have started to miss games the gates are substantially down and who in their right minds will buy in to the club whos owners treat the paying public with so little respect.They should put the club on the market now.I hear they have made Kean sign a new contract maybe this penalises failure and he is an idiot to sign it as he aint going to turn it around is he?
The main concern is not the sponsorship companies it is the fans because more and more of us have started to miss games the gates are substantially down and who in their right minds will buy in to the club whos owners treat the paying public with so little respect.They should put the club on the market now.I hear they have made Kean sign a new contract maybe this penalises failure and he is an idiot to sign it as he aint going to turn it around is he? bburnrover
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5:24pm Tue 22 Nov 11

rvers4ever says...

thelincolnshirepoach
er
wrote:
Folks, please listen into the debate tonight at 6pm on Radio Lancashire, txt, email or phone in to show them how Venky's have to go, after the shambolic way that Rovers are being run. here are the contact details: TXT 81333 start your txt with the word Lancs Email: radio.lancashire@bbc .co.uk Or phone 583583. Let's give Venky's a real rocket. As I listen live AT 17:15 there are already loads of stuff being sent to Radio Lancs, Let's give them HELL !
will anybody from the club be attending ?
[quote][p][bold]thelincolnshirepoach er[/bold] wrote: Folks, please listen into the debate tonight at 6pm on Radio Lancashire, txt, email or phone in to show them how Venky's have to go, after the shambolic way that Rovers are being run. here are the contact details: TXT 81333 start your txt with the word Lancs Email: radio.lancashire@bbc .co.uk Or phone 583583. Let's give Venky's a real rocket. As I listen live AT 17:15 there are already loads of stuff being sent to Radio Lancs, Let's give them HELL ![/p][/quote]will anybody from the club be attending ? rvers4ever
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5:26pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

maggie-T wrote:
hawaii 5-0 wrote:
What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions?

When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview.

i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans.

When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3.

C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation?
Since when has it been the LETs job to take responsibility for what's happening at deadwood?
Your all complaining, and yet you all wanted a big conglomerate to come and take over in the hope that it might make you a big club, you wanted Sam allerdyce out, you got your wishes, don't whine and winge now, and the good old walker trust? They sold you out too, roll on the fire sale!!
The fun has only just begun!!
Oh Maggie May
When the sun shines on your face it really shows your age,
Oh Maggie T,
When you post on here it
really shows your age.
.
We are 19th
u r 21st in chumpionship!!!
.
33rd Year And still Counting!
[quote][p][bold]maggie-T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hawaii 5-0[/bold] wrote: What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions? When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview. i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans. When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3. C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation?[/p][/quote]Since when has it been the LETs job to take responsibility for what's happening at deadwood? Your all complaining, and yet you all wanted a big conglomerate to come and take over in the hope that it might make you a big club, you wanted Sam allerdyce out, you got your wishes, don't whine and winge now, and the good old walker trust? They sold you out too, roll on the fire sale!! The fun has only just begun!![/p][/quote]Oh Maggie May When the sun shines on your face it really shows your age, Oh Maggie T, When you post on here it really shows your age. . We are 19th u r 21st in chumpionship!!! . 33rd Year And still Counting! Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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5:26pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football.
What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces?
what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals.
In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season.
Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan?
What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time?
Do you like cheese? :0)
I like cheese yes, why?

I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan.

You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree.

Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange.

The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-)

Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up.

Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-(

Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky.

Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!!

I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!!

I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say.

Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?!

Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-)
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football. What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces? what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals. In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season. Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan? What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time? Do you like cheese? :0)[/p][/quote]I like cheese yes, why? I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan. You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree. Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange. The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-) Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up. Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-( Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky. Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!! I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!! I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say. Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?! Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-) Melanie :-)
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5:29pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0)
COYB
But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too.

BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out!

KDG, what school do you go to?

I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team?

Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler.
Call me what you like, I'm not easily offended, all I care about Rovers thats all.
I don't go to school I'm way too old. Someones pulling your leg with that one.
I think you are very easily offended.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0) COYB[/p][/quote]But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too. BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out! KDG, what school do you go to? I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team? Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler.[/p][/quote]Call me what you like, I'm not easily offended, all I care about Rovers thats all. I don't go to school I'm way too old. Someones pulling your leg with that one.[/p][/quote]I think you are very easily offended. Melanie :-)
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5:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Rishtonian says...

BlackburnExile wrote:
If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.
Would willingly buy Mr Wild a gallon never mind a pint BUT I will not be at the Cardiff OR Swansea game or any others till Kean has gone

Kean OUT
Venky’s OUT
[quote][p][bold]BlackburnExile[/bold] wrote: If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.[/p][/quote]Would willingly buy Mr Wild a gallon never mind a pint BUT I will not be at the Cardiff OR Swansea game or any others till Kean has gone Kean OUT Venky’s OUT Rishtonian
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5:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Rishtonian says...

BlackburnExile wrote:
If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.
Would willingly buy Mr Wild a gallon never mind a pint BUT I will not be at the Cardiff OR Swansea game or any others till Kean has gone

Kean OUT
Venky’s OUT
[quote][p][bold]BlackburnExile[/bold] wrote: If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.[/p][/quote]Would willingly buy Mr Wild a gallon never mind a pint BUT I will not be at the Cardiff OR Swansea game or any others till Kean has gone Kean OUT Venky’s OUT Rishtonian
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5:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Melanie :-) says...

This was a big mistake... there are too many negative angry Kean and Venky's supporters on here. I am leaving. JC - chill out. You were wrong! Same for KDG... JUST BE HAPPY NOW THAT YOU REALIZE THAT MANY MANY PEOPLE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG - AND YOU ARE NOW TOGETHER.
This was a big mistake... there are too many negative angry Kean and Venky's supporters on here. I am leaving. JC - chill out. You were wrong! Same for KDG... JUST BE HAPPY NOW THAT YOU REALIZE THAT MANY MANY PEOPLE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG - AND YOU ARE NOW TOGETHER. Melanie :-)
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5:49pm Tue 22 Nov 11

thelincolnshirepoacher says...

No -one from Rovers at Radio Lancs, just 40 fans I believe,

Everyone get stuck in give Venky's Hell.
No -one from Rovers at Radio Lancs, just 40 fans I believe, Everyone get stuck in give Venky's Hell. thelincolnshirepoacher
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5:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Road Runner Road Runner says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I have had my fall outs with KDG and we have both said things to each other that probably shouldnt have been said - but this continued digging at her is WAY out of order.
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I would like say though that KDG and others (Ricktvr, Wildrover, Ii1111 etc) are not and have not been "wrong" in all this. They have said all along that they were perpared to give SK "time" - now they all say "his time is up" - that is not "being wrong", that is simply giving him more of a chance to prove himself than most of us did.
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Like CS said - we need to come together stop any infighting and focus the "villans" - Venkys !!
Bang On
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I have had my fall outs with KDG and we have both said things to each other that probably shouldnt have been said - but this continued digging at her is WAY out of order. . I would like say though that KDG and others (Ricktvr, Wildrover, Ii1111 etc) are not and have not been "wrong" in all this. They have said all along that they were perpared to give SK "time" - now they all say "his time is up" - that is not "being wrong", that is simply giving him more of a chance to prove himself than most of us did. . Like CS said - we need to come together stop any infighting and focus the "villans" - Venkys !![/p][/quote]Bang On Road Runner Road Runner
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5:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

J.C - Rishton says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
JC - these guys were right. PLEASE STOP ARGUING!

RoversLoyal and many many others warned many times about what was going bad!!!

PLEASE STOP BEING SO BAD TEMPERED ALL THE TIME!

Why can't you guys just admit you got it wrong and move forward with the protesters - together!!!

It makes me sad to read your angry posts.

Leave people alone who do not agree with you - one thing RoversLoyal and many many others said was... the Kean/Venky's people and their friends are very aggressive and insulting - you do not listen to the fans!! JC - listen to the fans!!!!

NO MORE CIVIL WAR!!!
Hi Melanie - I think you have got the wrong end of the stick.
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Me and ChrisSutton were virtually the FIRST people on here saying SK IS NOT A MANAGER - and we got some terrible stick for it - I'm talking way way back into last season and certainly along time BEFORE Roversloyal was and I had some terrible back and forth "dingdongs" with KDG way before Roversloyal ever went head to head with her.
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My point in defending KDG is that we need to move on - the bigger picture is VENKIES
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I also didnt like the "victory" statement - no-one on this side has anything to congratulate themselves on - as far as I am concerned we should all be "feeling the pain" of our current position.
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: JC - these guys were right. PLEASE STOP ARGUING! RoversLoyal and many many others warned many times about what was going bad!!! PLEASE STOP BEING SO BAD TEMPERED ALL THE TIME! Why can't you guys just admit you got it wrong and move forward with the protesters - together!!! It makes me sad to read your angry posts. Leave people alone who do not agree with you - one thing RoversLoyal and many many others said was... the Kean/Venky's people and their friends are very aggressive and insulting - you do not listen to the fans!! JC - listen to the fans!!!! NO MORE CIVIL WAR!!![/p][/quote]Hi Melanie - I think you have got the wrong end of the stick. . Me and ChrisSutton were virtually the FIRST people on here saying SK IS NOT A MANAGER - and we got some terrible stick for it - I'm talking way way back into last season and certainly along time BEFORE Roversloyal was and I had some terrible back and forth "dingdongs" with KDG way before Roversloyal ever went head to head with her. . My point in defending KDG is that we need to move on - the bigger picture is VENKIES . I also didnt like the "victory" statement - no-one on this side has anything to congratulate themselves on - as far as I am concerned we should all be "feeling the pain" of our current position. J.C - Rishton
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5:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Road Runner Road Runner says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!!

THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME!

Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback.

Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic!

She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well.

Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along.

I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-)

I am very very worried about the club though.
VICTORY ??? - what victory ??
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She said she'd give him more time, now she said "he's had his chance and failed" - she never said "Kean is God".
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I had many "arguments with KDG" as far back as June when I was predicting this to be a disasterous season if we didnt buy big and early in the transfer market - do I feel VICTORIOUS today because my words have proved to be right ?? - NO, I feel desperately unhappy that we are 19th in the EPL and seemingly heading for the championship.
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I would love Rovers to win the next few games under SK (if, God forbid, he's still here) and if so I will come on here and say to KDG, Wildrover etc - you were right to give him more time cos he's finally come good !! (although I don't expect this to happen and if it were up to me his feet wouldnt touch the ground).
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Why do I want to do this - because WE NEED TO WIN FOOTBALL MATCHES not massage our own over inflated ego's !
Bang On again JC
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!! THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME! Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback. Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic! She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well. Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along. I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-) I am very very worried about the club though.[/p][/quote]VICTORY ??? - what victory ?? . She said she'd give him more time, now she said "he's had his chance and failed" - she never said "Kean is God". . I had many "arguments with KDG" as far back as June when I was predicting this to be a disasterous season if we didnt buy big and early in the transfer market - do I feel VICTORIOUS today because my words have proved to be right ?? - NO, I feel desperately unhappy that we are 19th in the EPL and seemingly heading for the championship. . I would love Rovers to win the next few games under SK (if, God forbid, he's still here) and if so I will come on here and say to KDG, Wildrover etc - you were right to give him more time cos he's finally come good !! (although I don't expect this to happen and if it were up to me his feet wouldnt touch the ground). . Why do I want to do this - because WE NEED TO WIN FOOTBALL MATCHES not massage our own over inflated ego's ![/p][/quote]Bang On again JC Road Runner Road Runner
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6:02pm Tue 22 Nov 11

riversidefan says...

I've no ideas whether Kean has signed a new contract or not, but I've just seen a great headline on a website:

"Banner makers rejoice as Steve Kean gets a new contract at Blackburn"
I've no ideas whether Kean has signed a new contract or not, but I've just seen a great headline on a website: "Banner makers rejoice as Steve Kean gets a new contract at Blackburn" riversidefan
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6:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

guiderover says...

I would like to thank Paul Robinson and Mr Wild with their comments,yesterday and today.Paul for understanding that the fans are behind the players and Mr Wild for mentioning the way the club is being run.I hope now,that we as Rovers fans can now stand as one again.If there's any chance of getting rid of this cancer in our club,then now is the time too stand up and be counted.
I would like to thank Paul Robinson and Mr Wild with their comments,yesterday and today.Paul for understanding that the fans are behind the players and Mr Wild for mentioning the way the club is being run.I hope now,that we as Rovers fans can now stand as one again.If there's any chance of getting rid of this cancer in our club,then now is the time too stand up and be counted. guiderover
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6:20pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ossyrover1 says...

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6:41pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Keep Darwen Green says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football.
What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces?
what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals.
In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season.
Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan?
What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time?
Do you like cheese? :0)
I like cheese yes, why?

I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan.

You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree.

Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange.

The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-)

Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up.

Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-(

Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky.

Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!!

I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!!

I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say.

Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?!

Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-)
Thanks melanie, at last an opinion on football.
Do you like Peas?

I think you are very young, in fact I think you are still at school.

The problem in this country is we don't teach zonal marking through the different ages at school so when you become a senior and some manager springs it on you, You don't know how to play it.
Man for man marking is what we are used to in the english league.
Its very easy to mark a player out of the game even if he has greater pace than you, you just block him out and lean in. The trick is keeping between him and where the ball is going
Zonal marking is good when you have a back four who knows how it works. The idea is to mark the zone and not the player. You attack the ball space. The problems of this system is when players move and jostle for position and you end up with more in one zone than the others making attacking the ball space very difficult or downright impossible. The confusion arises when " handing players over " from one zone to another. Players forget to attack the ball and start to wander with the player and when you end up with lots of the opposition in one zone you end up conceding too easily.
Foreign players have a better appreciation of zonal marking as they get trained that way from the beginning.
I prefer man to man as each defender knows who he has to stop. The problem with man to man is you are more focused on where your man is instead of where the ball is.
To stop conceding goals Rovers need to work on a more man to man system, at the moment they appear to be trying zonal hence players from the opposition looking like they are in acres of space when they recieve the ball. What with that and being very slow to close down we are just sitting ducks.
We need to be more man to man and defenders need to close the game out quicker.
Kean cannot seem to get the guys in one cohesive defensive unit. Too much confusion and lacking in effort when not in possession.
Other than that we are scoring goals so it should be easier just to sort out defensive duties.
I must say defensively I have been a bit disappointed with Samba this season. Considering our teams height we concede to many from set plays. Givet has been our best centre back but samba has been very average. Dann I'm not to sure about but I think he needs a stable partnership and a few more games to know who goes and who stays.

What is EMO?
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football. What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces? what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals. In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season. Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan? What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time? Do you like cheese? :0)[/p][/quote]I like cheese yes, why? I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan. You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree. Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange. The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-) Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up. Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-( Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky. Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!! I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!! I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say. Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?! Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-)[/p][/quote]Thanks melanie, at last an opinion on football. Do you like Peas? I think you are very young, in fact I think you are still at school. The problem in this country is we don't teach zonal marking through the different ages at school so when you become a senior and some manager springs it on you, You don't know how to play it. Man for man marking is what we are used to in the english league. Its very easy to mark a player out of the game even if he has greater pace than you, you just block him out and lean in. The trick is keeping between him and where the ball is going Zonal marking is good when you have a back four who knows how it works. The idea is to mark the zone and not the player. You attack the ball space. The problems of this system is when players move and jostle for position and you end up with more in one zone than the others making attacking the ball space very difficult or downright impossible. The confusion arises when " handing players over " from one zone to another. Players forget to attack the ball and start to wander with the player and when you end up with lots of the opposition in one zone you end up conceding too easily. Foreign players have a better appreciation of zonal marking as they get trained that way from the beginning. I prefer man to man as each defender knows who he has to stop. The problem with man to man is you are more focused on where your man is instead of where the ball is. To stop conceding goals Rovers need to work on a more man to man system, at the moment they appear to be trying zonal hence players from the opposition looking like they are in acres of space when they recieve the ball. What with that and being very slow to close down we are just sitting ducks. We need to be more man to man and defenders need to close the game out quicker. Kean cannot seem to get the guys in one cohesive defensive unit. Too much confusion and lacking in effort when not in possession. Other than that we are scoring goals so it should be easier just to sort out defensive duties. I must say defensively I have been a bit disappointed with Samba this season. Considering our teams height we concede to many from set plays. Givet has been our best centre back but samba has been very average. Dann I'm not to sure about but I think he needs a stable partnership and a few more games to know who goes and who stays. What is EMO? Keep Darwen Green
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6:50pm Tue 22 Nov 11

BeatleBill says...

At what point do we say, "Enough is enough?"

It seems clear to me that Venky's recent actions ("new deal for Kean") and the negative responses of fans (and now sponsors) indicate a club in terminal decline.

So, why aren't difficult questions being asked of the owners, administration, and team management? Isn't that news?

I am sure it is difficult for LT journalists to balance a working relationship with the club and the need to report newsworthy information in a timely fashion to fans.

But surely now is the time to be talking with members of the Rao family, the club's administration (such that it is), and the team manager?

And difficult questions need to be asked, not just ones that produce the usual easily deflected, pat answers.

If Venky's, the club's senior administrators, and Steve Kean are not willing to talk, then report THAT, and editorialize on it.

Talk to John Williams and Tom Finn. Talk to Sam Allardyce. What are their perspectives on what is happening at the club?

Do they have written clauses in their termination agreements that forbids them to talk to the press? Then print that. We need to know.

Come on LT, you are the voice of the East Lancs community. Rovers fans want to know what is REALLY happening at Ewood Park.
At what point do we say, "Enough is enough?" It seems clear to me that Venky's recent actions ("new deal for Kean") and the negative responses of fans (and now sponsors) indicate a club in terminal decline. So, why aren't difficult questions being asked of the owners, administration, and team management? Isn't that news? I am sure it is difficult for LT journalists to balance a working relationship with the club and the need to report newsworthy information in a timely fashion to fans. But surely now is the time to be talking with members of the Rao family, the club's administration (such that it is), and the team manager? And difficult questions need to be asked, not just ones that produce the usual easily deflected, pat answers. If Venky's, the club's senior administrators, and Steve Kean are not willing to talk, then report THAT, and editorialize on it. Talk to John Williams and Tom Finn. Talk to Sam Allardyce. What are their perspectives on what is happening at the club? Do they have written clauses in their termination agreements that forbids them to talk to the press? Then print that. We need to know. Come on LT, you are the voice of the East Lancs community. Rovers fans want to know what is REALLY happening at Ewood Park. BeatleBill
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7:01pm Tue 22 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

French Rover wrote:
Well said Mr Wild....maybe your public plea for communication and the restoring of some structure to the club will get us all some much needed answers. Your offer to mediate between the fans and the club and owners should also be listened to by Venkys as this situation is crying out for someone to take soe kind of position of normality. Right now we seem to have nothing solid at Ewood anymore, just a castle built on sand and sinking more quickly every week.
venkys dont give a toss ,,mr wild aint got an answer for 6 months ,, disgusting and shame on you venkys ,,fkof back to prune and dont come back ,
thank you very much mr wild
but i expect you wont get nothing out of these num bstds

cant wait for them to go so we can rebuild ,and we will

no matter what the weather
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Well said Mr Wild....maybe your public plea for communication and the restoring of some structure to the club will get us all some much needed answers. Your offer to mediate between the fans and the club and owners should also be listened to by Venkys as this situation is crying out for someone to take soe kind of position of normality. Right now we seem to have nothing solid at Ewood anymore, just a castle built on sand and sinking more quickly every week.[/p][/quote]venkys dont give a toss ,,mr wild aint got an answer for 6 months ,, disgusting and shame on you venkys ,,fkof back to prune and dont come back , thank you very much mr wild but i expect you wont get nothing out of these num bstds cant wait for them to go so we can rebuild ,and we will no matter what the weather philmoulden
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7:08pm Tue 22 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

are there any lawyers out there who could sue venkys for all our pain and suffering for 12 months ,,its been agony ,get in touch with me via telegraph ,,i want to sue em ,
are there any lawyers out there who could sue venkys for all our pain and suffering for 12 months ,,its been agony ,get in touch with me via telegraph ,,i want to sue em , philmoulden
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7:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

maxbrad says...

ive just logged on and i cant believe the chicken pluckers have given Mr Kean a new contract i feel sick . The knobheads are taking us to the fizzy pop league . Im gutted bigtime . Kean is one of those people who we all know in our own working environment who is crap at there job , but is more thought of with the powers that be .
ive just logged on and i cant believe the chicken pluckers have given Mr Kean a new contract i feel sick . The knobheads are taking us to the fizzy pop league . Im gutted bigtime . Kean is one of those people who we all know in our own working environment who is crap at there job , but is more thought of with the powers that be . maxbrad
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7:32pm Tue 22 Nov 11

French Rover says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
RoversLoyal wrote:
Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..
About time an' all.
Respect to you for that.
"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.
Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....
I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!
I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.
I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?
Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football.
What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces?
what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals.
In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season.
Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan?
What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time?
Do you like cheese? :0)
I like cheese yes, why?

I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan.

You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree.

Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange.

The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-)

Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up.

Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-(

Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky.

Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!!

I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!!

I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say.

Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?!

Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-)
Thanks melanie, at last an opinion on football.
Do you like Peas?

I think you are very young, in fact I think you are still at school.

The problem in this country is we don't teach zonal marking through the different ages at school so when you become a senior and some manager springs it on you, You don't know how to play it.
Man for man marking is what we are used to in the english league.
Its very easy to mark a player out of the game even if he has greater pace than you, you just block him out and lean in. The trick is keeping between him and where the ball is going
Zonal marking is good when you have a back four who knows how it works. The idea is to mark the zone and not the player. You attack the ball space. The problems of this system is when players move and jostle for position and you end up with more in one zone than the others making attacking the ball space very difficult or downright impossible. The confusion arises when " handing players over " from one zone to another. Players forget to attack the ball and start to wander with the player and when you end up with lots of the opposition in one zone you end up conceding too easily.
Foreign players have a better appreciation of zonal marking as they get trained that way from the beginning.
I prefer man to man as each defender knows who he has to stop. The problem with man to man is you are more focused on where your man is instead of where the ball is.
To stop conceding goals Rovers need to work on a more man to man system, at the moment they appear to be trying zonal hence players from the opposition looking like they are in acres of space when they recieve the ball. What with that and being very slow to close down we are just sitting ducks.
We need to be more man to man and defenders need to close the game out quicker.
Kean cannot seem to get the guys in one cohesive defensive unit. Too much confusion and lacking in effort when not in possession.
Other than that we are scoring goals so it should be easier just to sort out defensive duties.
I must say defensively I have been a bit disappointed with Samba this season. Considering our teams height we concede to many from set plays. Givet has been our best centre back but samba has been very average. Dann I'm not to sure about but I think he needs a stable partnership and a few more games to know who goes and who stays.

What is EMO?
very entertaining and quite amusing ladies...its a bit like tuning into one of the strange french tv stations here and although you dont understand anything that is going on it all becomes weirdly watchable...

cant wait for the next episode! As anything that distracts from the current plight of our great club is ok reading at the moment!
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversLoyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..[/p][/quote]About time an' all.[/p][/quote]Respect to you for that.[/p][/quote]"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.[/p][/quote]Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....[/p][/quote]I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light![/p][/quote]I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.[/p][/quote]I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?[/p][/quote]Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football. What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces? what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals. In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season. Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan? What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time? Do you like cheese? :0)[/p][/quote]I like cheese yes, why? I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan. You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree. Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange. The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-) Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up. Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-( Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky. Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!! I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!! I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say. Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?! Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-)[/p][/quote]Thanks melanie, at last an opinion on football. Do you like Peas? I think you are very young, in fact I think you are still at school. The problem in this country is we don't teach zonal marking through the different ages at school so when you become a senior and some manager springs it on you, You don't know how to play it. Man for man marking is what we are used to in the english league. Its very easy to mark a player out of the game even if he has greater pace than you, you just block him out and lean in. The trick is keeping between him and where the ball is going Zonal marking is good when you have a back four who knows how it works. The idea is to mark the zone and not the player. You attack the ball space. The problems of this system is when players move and jostle for position and you end up with more in one zone than the others making attacking the ball space very difficult or downright impossible. The confusion arises when " handing players over " from one zone to another. Players forget to attack the ball and start to wander with the player and when you end up with lots of the opposition in one zone you end up conceding too easily. Foreign players have a better appreciation of zonal marking as they get trained that way from the beginning. I prefer man to man as each defender knows who he has to stop. The problem with man to man is you are more focused on where your man is instead of where the ball is. To stop conceding goals Rovers need to work on a more man to man system, at the moment they appear to be trying zonal hence players from the opposition looking like they are in acres of space when they recieve the ball. What with that and being very slow to close down we are just sitting ducks. We need to be more man to man and defenders need to close the game out quicker. Kean cannot seem to get the guys in one cohesive defensive unit. Too much confusion and lacking in effort when not in possession. Other than that we are scoring goals so it should be easier just to sort out defensive duties. I must say defensively I have been a bit disappointed with Samba this season. Considering our teams height we concede to many from set plays. Givet has been our best centre back but samba has been very average. Dann I'm not to sure about but I think he needs a stable partnership and a few more games to know who goes and who stays. What is EMO?[/p][/quote]very entertaining and quite amusing ladies...its a bit like tuning into one of the strange french tv stations here and although you dont understand anything that is going on it all becomes weirdly watchable... cant wait for the next episode! As anything that distracts from the current plight of our great club is ok reading at the moment! French Rover
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7:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

roverfor60years says...

Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters. roverfor60years
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7:52pm Tue 22 Nov 11

katrew says...

well said roverfor60years.
Venky's have an agenda that is not in BRFCs interest. They have substantially reduced both team and backroom costs - but to what end? They have left the club with no effective management structure in place and have shown a complete disregard to any legitimate concerns raised. Their policy of non communication with their fans and their biggest sponsor is a real concern. They clearly have something to hide and are avoiding public scrutiny
well said roverfor60years. Venky's have an agenda that is not in BRFCs interest. They have substantially reduced both team and backroom costs - but to what end? They have left the club with no effective management structure in place and have shown a complete disregard to any legitimate concerns raised. Their policy of non communication with their fans and their biggest sponsor is a real concern. They clearly have something to hide and are avoiding public scrutiny katrew
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7:56pm Tue 22 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.
good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.[/p][/quote]good post and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to , shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it philmoulden
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7:58pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Mike Costa says...

Dukes wrote:
I written to many letters I never got a respond by them,but I managed to dig in more, I finally got somewhere, I am asking them to come clean and remove kean but its taking a hell of a time for them to listen to.I never off line or off the phone i am working my socks off here because we fans are stressed out badly the beloved club we love are in a mess.
What language is this drivel written in?
[quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: I written to many letters I never got a respond by them,but I managed to dig in more, I finally got somewhere, I am asking them to come clean and remove kean but its taking a hell of a time for them to listen to.I never off line or off the phone i am working my socks off here because we fans are stressed out badly the beloved club we love are in a mess.[/p][/quote]What language is this drivel written in? Mike Costa
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8:01pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Baileyblue says...

http://www.espn.co.u
k/football/sport/sto
ry/122680.html
Kean says nows not the time to be signing new contract, who knows what's happening, not sure how old this story is though
http://www.espn.co.u k/football/sport/sto ry/122680.html Kean says nows not the time to be signing new contract, who knows what's happening, not sure how old this story is though Baileyblue
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8:01pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RoverInRotterdam says...

it,s one long F#####g nightmare....... Is there nothing we the fans of this once proud club can do ?... Some newspaper needs to lead the way with some good old fashioned investigative journalism (not the Telegraph by the look of it) and find out what really is and has been going on, i've a feeling that theres a really good headliner for the first journalist to get past the smokescreen of lies and bulls##t thats being laid down from the venky trio and their clownish acolyte kean.Anybody out there that has any contacts at any of the dailies ? .. "ROVERS IN MY HEART 4EVA "
it,s one long F#####g nightmare....... Is there nothing we the fans of this once proud club can do ?... Some newspaper needs to lead the way with some good old fashioned investigative journalism (not the Telegraph by the look of it) and find out what really is and has been going on, i've a feeling that theres a really good headliner for the first journalist to get past the smokescreen of lies and bulls##t thats being laid down from the venky trio and their clownish acolyte kean.Anybody out there that has any contacts at any of the dailies ? .. "ROVERS IN MY HEART 4EVA " RoverInRotterdam
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8:02pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Rover Pete says...

What has happened to agent Kean.
Not a word from him for two days.
Has he been abducted by aliens?
No! what would they want with him!
I will offer a prize to anyone who finds him. I will personally throw you in the Leeds & Liverpool, with a concrete block tied round your feet.

100% for the players

0% for Kean
What has happened to agent Kean. Not a word from him for two days. Has he been abducted by aliens? No! what would they want with him! I will offer a prize to anyone who finds him. I will personally throw you in the Leeds & Liverpool, with a concrete block tied round your feet. 100% for the players 0% for Kean Rover Pete
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8:04pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Baileyblue says...

Baileyblue wrote:
http://www.espn.co.u

k/football/sport/sto

ry/122680.html
Kean says nows not the time to be signing new contract, who knows what's happening, not sure how old this story is though
Just checked it was today
[quote][p][bold]Baileyblue[/bold] wrote: http://www.espn.co.u k/football/sport/sto ry/122680.html Kean says nows not the time to be signing new contract, who knows what's happening, not sure how old this story is though[/p][/quote]Just checked it was today Baileyblue
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8:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

goz says...

philmoulden wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.
good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it
Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.
[quote][p][bold]philmoulden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.[/p][/quote]good post and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to , shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it[/p][/quote]Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M. goz
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8:25pm Tue 22 Nov 11

a_true_blue says...

not going to another game that's it gone.
not going to another game that's it gone. a_true_blue
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8:42pm Tue 22 Nov 11

colnelad says...

vote for marcus to win the x-factor;-)
vote for marcus to win the x-factor;-) colnelad
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8:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11

smellthecoffee says...

IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!!
IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!! smellthecoffee
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8:46pm Tue 22 Nov 11

smellthecoffee says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!!
OH...AND THEY'VE UPPED HIS PAY OFF TO £800,000 IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM....THAT SHOULD SEE OFF INTEREST FROM THE LIKES OF MANCHESTER UNITED!!!
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!![/p][/quote]OH...AND THEY'VE UPPED HIS PAY OFF TO £800,000 IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM....THAT SHOULD SEE OFF INTEREST FROM THE LIKES OF MANCHESTER UNITED!!! smellthecoffee
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8:53pm Tue 22 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

goz wrote:
philmoulden wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.
good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it
Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.
your right about our kid ,he would,nt mess around ,sure the venkys would know him by name by now ,he taught me all i know and im gonna use it

no matter wot the weather
[quote][p][bold]goz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]philmoulden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.[/p][/quote]good post and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to , shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it[/p][/quote]Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.[/p][/quote]your right about our kid ,he would,nt mess around ,sure the venkys would know him by name by now ,he taught me all i know and im gonna use it no matter wot the weather philmoulden
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8:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

eddie the eagle says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.
At last somebody mentions the root of all our woes,JEROME ANDERSON.This man was actively trying to sell Roversto anyone who would listen at least two years before the Venkys took over.He then placed puppet Kean in as manager,sweet talked the Indian crazy gang and we finished up in the sh@t.I still believe his hands are on the tiller and any move to remove Kean could lead to disclosures of third party involvement and a quick decent into the championship with a 15 point deduction,we are well and truely facked.
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.[/p][/quote]At last somebody mentions the root of all our woes,JEROME ANDERSON.This man was actively trying to sell Roversto anyone who would listen at least two years before the Venkys took over.He then placed puppet Kean in as manager,sweet talked the Indian crazy gang and we finished up in the sh@t.I still believe his hands are on the tiller and any move to remove Kean could lead to disclosures of third party involvement and a quick decent into the championship with a 15 point deduction,we are well and truely facked. eddie the eagle
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8:57pm Tue 22 Nov 11

jogalot says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!!
They must be Burnley fans. Who else would go to such extreme lengths to do away with Blackburn Rovers?
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!![/p][/quote]They must be Burnley fans. Who else would go to such extreme lengths to do away with Blackburn Rovers? jogalot
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8:57pm Tue 22 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

goz wrote:
philmoulden wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.
good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it
Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.
your right about our kid ,he would,nt mess around ,sure the venkys would know him by name by now ,he taught me all i know and im gonna use it

no matter wot the weather
[quote][p][bold]goz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]philmoulden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.[/p][/quote]good post and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to , shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it[/p][/quote]Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.[/p][/quote]your right about our kid ,he would,nt mess around ,sure the venkys would know him by name by now ,he taught me all i know and im gonna use it no matter wot the weather philmoulden
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9:00pm Tue 22 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

philmoulden wrote:
goz wrote:
philmoulden wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.
good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it
Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.
your right about our kid ,he would,nt mess around ,sure the venkys would know him by name by now ,he taught me all i know and im gonna use it

no matter wot the weather
go have a look at my lyrics to some older rovers songs on the robbo post ,
all anti venkys n kean
[quote][p][bold]philmoulden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]goz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]philmoulden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.[/p][/quote]good post and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to , shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it[/p][/quote]Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.[/p][/quote]your right about our kid ,he would,nt mess around ,sure the venkys would know him by name by now ,he taught me all i know and im gonna use it no matter wot the weather[/p][/quote]go have a look at my lyrics to some older rovers songs on the robbo post , all anti venkys n kean philmoulden
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9:24pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Howard Gayle says...

Oh dear! Is anybody actually in Ewood Park on a daily basis, apart from the ticket girls and the cleaners?! Unbelievable!

I'm also guilty of giving Mr Kean and Venky's time and the benefit of the doubt (not publicly cause I knew I'd get jumped on) but enough is enough.

There has pretty much been bad news everyday since they took over!

Hopefully the protests will continue and get stronger and stronger.
Oh dear! Is anybody actually in Ewood Park on a daily basis, apart from the ticket girls and the cleaners?! Unbelievable! I'm also guilty of giving Mr Kean and Venky's time and the benefit of the doubt (not publicly cause I knew I'd get jumped on) but enough is enough. There has pretty much been bad news everyday since they took over! Hopefully the protests will continue and get stronger and stronger. Howard Gayle
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10:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

kitchener2 says...

They saw and heard the fans reaction at Wigan and they did'nt like it, so now they intend to teach us a lesson with this ridiculous decision.well, they want media coverage, so let's give it to them,stay away from the next home game. If we let the team play in an empty stadium that would generate plenty of news...Never mind backing the team,it's time the team backed us!
They saw and heard the fans reaction at Wigan and they did'nt like it, so now they intend to teach us a lesson with this ridiculous decision.well, they want media coverage, so let's give it to them,stay away from the next home game. If we let the team play in an empty stadium that would generate plenty of news...Never mind backing the team,it's time the team backed us! kitchener2
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10:46pm Tue 22 Nov 11

ste.g says...

kitchener2 wrote:
They saw and heard the fans reaction at Wigan and they did'nt like it, so now they intend to teach us a lesson with this ridiculous decision.well, they want media coverage, so let's give it to them,stay away from the next home game. If we let the team play in an empty stadium that would generate plenty of news...Never mind backing the team,it's time the team backed us!
why not just all turn up 10minutes late?
[quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: They saw and heard the fans reaction at Wigan and they did'nt like it, so now they intend to teach us a lesson with this ridiculous decision.well, they want media coverage, so let's give it to them,stay away from the next home game. If we let the team play in an empty stadium that would generate plenty of news...Never mind backing the team,it's time the team backed us![/p][/quote]why not just all turn up 10minutes late? ste.g
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10:55pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Ewood-b-happy says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
saint.george wrote:
Yes, looks like we're dead

http://www.mirrorfoo


tball.co.uk/news/Ste


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ackburn-deal-article


833461.html
Well we are relegated then. 26 games left and as has been proved by his tenure thus far, Kean is not capable of stringing a run of results together.

I'm beyond stunned at the news of his improved contract. After Venkys saw the fan unrest and anti-Venkys/Kean chants first hand on Saturday, this is nothing short of two fingers up to every single Rovers fan.

Even if you're not a Rovers fan, you have to think - why, in a world of business, supply and demand, is an improved contract even necessary? In football a new contract with improved terms is usually offered on the basis there are other parties out there who would hire said employee, the increase in money usually reflecting their value.

Well is there ANY club up and down the land who would want Steve Kean as manager right now? I don't see a queue of clubs after him. Forget about the issue of even sacking him. Why is it necessary for an improved contract?

F-Venkys, F-Kean and RIP Blackburn Rovers. I think I'm done. I will not be attending Ewood again until this slimy little weasal Kean is removed. I can't bear to see his sh!t-eating grin again, he doesn't deserve a single penny from Rovers.
-D.K.O
I ask you and everyone else who is thinking of staying away to come down to Ewood on matchdays to protest. we all have to carry the fight. I'm upper tier jack walker and will try to make the protest heard up there. I think we all know now that we are not suffering from collective paranoia, we know the club is in freefall. Please everyone make It your mission to target Venkys, Kean, Anderson. Get them out of our club. Email the FA & Barclays to investigate the events at Ewood. We have to get answers as to what is going on. 0% Venkys 0% Kean 0% Anderson. 100% BRFC.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint.george[/bold] wrote: Yes, looks like we're dead http://www.mirrorfoo tball.co.uk/news/Ste ve-Kean-seals-new-Bl ackburn-deal-article 833461.html[/p][/quote]Well we are relegated then. 26 games left and as has been proved by his tenure thus far, Kean is not capable of stringing a run of results together. I'm beyond stunned at the news of his improved contract. After Venkys saw the fan unrest and anti-Venkys/Kean chants first hand on Saturday, this is nothing short of two fingers up to every single Rovers fan. Even if you're not a Rovers fan, you have to think - why, in a world of business, supply and demand, is an improved contract even necessary? In football a new contract with improved terms is usually offered on the basis there are other parties out there who would hire said employee, the increase in money usually reflecting their value. Well is there ANY club up and down the land who would want Steve Kean as manager right now? I don't see a queue of clubs after him. Forget about the issue of even sacking him. Why is it necessary for an improved contract? F-Venkys, F-Kean and RIP Blackburn Rovers. I think I'm done. I will not be attending Ewood again until this slimy little weasal Kean is removed. I can't bear to see his sh!t-eating grin again, he doesn't deserve a single penny from Rovers. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]I ask you and everyone else who is thinking of staying away to come down to Ewood on matchdays to protest. we all have to carry the fight. I'm upper tier jack walker and will try to make the protest heard up there. I think we all know now that we are not suffering from collective paranoia, we know the club is in freefall. Please everyone make It your mission to target Venkys, Kean, Anderson. Get them out of our club. Email the FA & Barclays to investigate the events at Ewood. We have to get answers as to what is going on. 0% Venkys 0% Kean 0% Anderson. 100% BRFC. Ewood-b-happy
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10:57pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Super Colin Hendry says...

Well said Mr Wild! Thoughtful comments that I am sure reflect the feelings of a lot of the fans. I think the lack of communication from Venky's here just goes to show how little they care for the fans and the club.The more time goes on I find it harder and harder to believe that our owners who run a very successful company are simply being naive when it comes to running a football club - I can't help but think that there are some underlying motivations for owning the football club that do not include in any way the interests of the club itself
Well said Mr Wild! Thoughtful comments that I am sure reflect the feelings of a lot of the fans. I think the lack of communication from Venky's here just goes to show how little they care for the fans and the club.The more time goes on I find it harder and harder to believe that our owners who run a very successful company are simply being naive when it comes to running a football club - I can't help but think that there are some underlying motivations for owning the football club that do not include in any way the interests of the club itself Super Colin Hendry
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10:59pm Tue 22 Nov 11

goz says...

According to tomorrows Mirror, Kean has defo signed his new deal..as smellthecoffee says above ...£25000/week, 2 more years on his contract and a better pay off if hes sacked...who the hell is ratifying these decisions ??? Vote with your feet and pull the plug now !!
According to tomorrows Mirror, Kean has defo signed his new deal..as smellthecoffee says above ...£25000/week, 2 more years on his contract and a better pay off if hes sacked...who the hell is ratifying these decisions ??? Vote with your feet and pull the plug now !! goz
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11:27pm Tue 22 Nov 11

dg666 says...

Hi all,

Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must.

I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting.

I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment.

So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know.

(please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh)

Best Wishes

DG666
Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666 dg666
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11:28pm Tue 22 Nov 11

gleechy says...

This new Kean deal seals it, this is not my Blackburn Rovers,I will not spend a penny with these hijackers. I hope they are being investigated, and would be very shocked if they are not. Shame on LET for standing by. I think it's time LEP showed you how to do your job. This is not being secretly done, there are thosands of people watching helplessly whilst the club is torn apart.
This new Kean deal seals it, this is not my Blackburn Rovers,I will not spend a penny with these hijackers. I hope they are being investigated, and would be very shocked if they are not. Shame on LET for standing by. I think it's time LEP showed you how to do your job. This is not being secretly done, there are thosands of people watching helplessly whilst the club is torn apart. gleechy
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11:44pm Tue 22 Nov 11

gleechy says...

dg666 wrote:
Hi all,

Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must.

I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting.

I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment.

So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know.

(please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh)

Best Wishes

DG666
The owners are the problem. It comes accross in your piece like you are making excuses for them, how can you say we should talk to them about what has been happening at their club? Stupid cousin or not, they just gave the worst Manager in ther Prem a wage increase, in our name. They are useless football club owners and they need to go. I have no mutual interest in this lot, they have hijacked the club, I would not like to give them the satisfaction of watching fans grovel.
[quote][p][bold]dg666[/bold] wrote: Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666[/p][/quote]The owners are the problem. It comes accross in your piece like you are making excuses for them, how can you say we should talk to them about what has been happening at their club? Stupid cousin or not, they just gave the worst Manager in ther Prem a wage increase, in our name. They are useless football club owners and they need to go. I have no mutual interest in this lot, they have hijacked the club, I would not like to give them the satisfaction of watching fans grovel. gleechy
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12:10am Wed 23 Nov 11

one more season says...

COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil
st taking the money and running.
With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE.
Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down.
COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil st taking the money and running. With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE. Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down. one more season
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12:37am Wed 23 Nov 11

alfa111 says...

one more season wrote:
COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil st taking the money and running. With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE. Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down.
HERE,HERE
[quote][p][bold]one more season[/bold] wrote: COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil st taking the money and running. With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE. Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down.[/p][/quote]HERE,HERE alfa111
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1:06am Wed 23 Nov 11

Davd1981 says...

Disgusting
Disgusting Davd1981
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1:07am Wed 23 Nov 11

showbiz says...

I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW?

Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out.
I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW? Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out. showbiz
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3:47am Wed 23 Nov 11

smellthecoffee says...

showbiz wrote:
I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW?

Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out.
If they'd have invited me over they would have had it both barrels long before now.....I think "backstabber" Kean has managed to see a lot of the old guard off in order to preserve his position at the club. After all he seems to be the only one with any route through to Venky's. Who can blame him when he manages to trouser £25,000 a week from the Ewood kitty. Kean out!! Venky's out!!!!
[quote][p][bold]showbiz[/bold] wrote: I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW? Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out.[/p][/quote]If they'd have invited me over they would have had it both barrels long before now.....I think "backstabber" Kean has managed to see a lot of the old guard off in order to preserve his position at the club. After all he seems to be the only one with any route through to Venky's. Who can blame him when he manages to trouser £25,000 a week from the Ewood kitty. Kean out!! Venky's out!!!! smellthecoffee
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4:21am Wed 23 Nov 11

Roverthere says...

Let's face it the new owners and their advisors have screwed up big time. If something positive is not done immediately the full force of the fans fury should, and will, turn on them. They need to accept the truth, their first year in charge has been an utter disaster both on and off the feild. This circus cannot be allowed to continue. A first step to gain some credibility would be to appoint a competent and experienced manager on a short term contract to stave off relegation, which is now looking more certain with every match. Come on owners act now, before your tenure becomes un salvageable and a PR and publicity nightmare!
Let's face it the new owners and their advisors have screwed up big time. If something positive is not done immediately the full force of the fans fury should, and will, turn on them. They need to accept the truth, their first year in charge has been an utter disaster both on and off the feild. This circus cannot be allowed to continue. A first step to gain some credibility would be to appoint a competent and experienced manager on a short term contract to stave off relegation, which is now looking more certain with every match. Come on owners act now, before your tenure becomes un salvageable and a PR and publicity nightmare! Roverthere
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5:45am Wed 23 Nov 11

fluppy02 says...

Too much drama......... Venkys & Kean OUT.....
Too much drama......... Venkys & Kean OUT..... fluppy02
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7:36am Wed 23 Nov 11

kiwipom73 says...

I do agree that the arrogance and incompetence of the Venky,s "family" is the only reason for all that has happened the last twelve months.
They have needed advice from day one of course...and taken very poor advice/judgement re players and Manager-Staff appointments PLUS, thinking they could run the club like a business branch from their base in northern India.
Running of Premier Football club to them having been the egoistic pleasure that included hanging their family picture in the A1 position in the "owner" private lounge (setting aside Jack Walker,s photo and they have only been around for one disasterous year) !!
"ONE MORE SEASON".....you are so right....great comments.
I do agree that the arrogance and incompetence of the Venky,s "family" is the only reason for all that has happened the last twelve months. They have needed advice from day one of course...and taken very poor advice/judgement re players and Manager-Staff appointments PLUS, thinking they could run the club like a business branch from their base in northern India. Running of Premier Football club to them having been the egoistic pleasure that included hanging their family picture in the A1 position in the "owner" private lounge (setting aside Jack Walker,s photo and they have only been around for one disasterous year) !! "ONE MORE SEASON".....you are so right....great comments. kiwipom73
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8:02am Wed 23 Nov 11

dg666 says...

Gleechy, I am not supporting the owners, but saying that all protests need to be done in a constructive way, and a poll conducted by an independent source that highlights a full cross section of the fans feelings on issues such as the manager and transfer policy as well as club communication is the best way to go. If the owners are not here they will continue to be lied to and given all the positive spin. But if the independent poll lands on their desks with the true feelings of the fans and sponsors on they must take action. If the fans conducted one on their own the spin doctors would simply say that it was tainted as the organisers were anti Kean and Venky's.

We need to be professional in our approach with these people, I know that people inside the club are frustrated because their concerns are not being heard directly by the owners only second hand via the cousin. We need to present them with facts, I know the results and position we are in is factual, however the protests and minority of fans being against them is spin. Knowing business people and especially Indrian busriness people they are very proud people. They will not like to lose face (ie back Kean the whole way) the only thing worse than that to them is to be lied to by their own people, and I truly feel they are realising this is the case. If we act positively now and back up their new concerns with true fan and sponsor feelings I feel they will start to listen.

Football fans no longer have the power the once had, quite simply because it is purely a business now and the income from fans is a pittance compared to TV monies etc. So to be heard we to act positively and speak the language of the owners (business) and this will make them sit up and listen.

Finally, think about this, if people start slagging you off personally, what is the first thing you do? You get defensive!! You then become awkward to deal with, and perhaps even become slightly arrogant!!?? If you are then presented with facts in a calm and calculated way that proves you are wrong, most people would hold their hands up and admit guilt. Ring any bells? It's about How we communicate with them, not what we are saying!!! You may say this way is too soft, but believe me it will work, minimise negative publicity of our club and get us the result we all want!!

Best wishes

DG666
Gleechy, I am not supporting the owners, but saying that all protests need to be done in a constructive way, and a poll conducted by an independent source that highlights a full cross section of the fans feelings on issues such as the manager and transfer policy as well as club communication is the best way to go. If the owners are not here they will continue to be lied to and given all the positive spin. But if the independent poll lands on their desks with the true feelings of the fans and sponsors on they must take action. If the fans conducted one on their own the spin doctors would simply say that it was tainted as the organisers were anti Kean and Venky's. We need to be professional in our approach with these people, I know that people inside the club are frustrated because their concerns are not being heard directly by the owners only second hand via the cousin. We need to present them with facts, I know the results and position we are in is factual, however the protests and minority of fans being against them is spin. Knowing business people and especially Indrian busriness people they are very proud people. They will not like to lose face (ie back Kean the whole way) the only thing worse than that to them is to be lied to by their own people, and I truly feel they are realising this is the case. If we act positively now and back up their new concerns with true fan and sponsor feelings I feel they will start to listen. Football fans no longer have the power the once had, quite simply because it is purely a business now and the income from fans is a pittance compared to TV monies etc. So to be heard we to act positively and speak the language of the owners (business) and this will make them sit up and listen. Finally, think about this, if people start slagging you off personally, what is the first thing you do? You get defensive!! You then become awkward to deal with, and perhaps even become slightly arrogant!!?? If you are then presented with facts in a calm and calculated way that proves you are wrong, most people would hold their hands up and admit guilt. Ring any bells? It's about How we communicate with them, not what we are saying!!! You may say this way is too soft, but believe me it will work, minimise negative publicity of our club and get us the result we all want!! Best wishes DG666 dg666
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8:02am Wed 23 Nov 11

dg666 says...

Gleechy, I am not supporting the owners, but saying that all protests need to be done in a constructive way, and a poll conducted by an independent source that highlights a full cross section of the fans feelings on issues such as the manager and transfer policy as well as club communication is the best way to go. If the owners are not here they will continue to be lied to and given all the positive spin. But if the independent poll lands on their desks with the true feelings of the fans and sponsors on they must take action. If the fans conducted one on their own the spin doctors would simply say that it was tainted as the organisers were anti Kean and Venky's.

We need to be professional in our approach with these people, I know that people inside the club are frustrated because their concerns are not being heard directly by the owners only second hand via the cousin. We need to present them with facts, I know the results and position we are in is factual, however the protests and minority of fans being against them is spin. Knowing business people and especially Indrian busriness people they are very proud people. They will not like to lose face (ie back Kean the whole way) the only thing worse than that to them is to be lied to by their own people, and I truly feel they are realising this is the case. If we act positively now and back up their new concerns with true fan and sponsor feelings I feel they will start to listen.

Football fans no longer have the power the once had, quite simply because it is purely a business now and the income from fans is a pittance compared to TV monies etc. So to be heard we to act positively and speak the language of the owners (business) and this will make them sit up and listen.

Finally, think about this, if people start slagging you off personally, what is the first thing you do? You get defensive!! You then become awkward to deal with, and perhaps even become slightly arrogant!!?? If you are then presented with facts in a calm and calculated way that proves you are wrong, most people would hold their hands up and admit guilt. Ring any bells? It's about How we communicate with them, not what we are saying!!! You may say this way is too soft, but believe me it will work, minimise negative publicity of our club and get us the result we all want!!

Best wishes

DG666
Gleechy, I am not supporting the owners, but saying that all protests need to be done in a constructive way, and a poll conducted by an independent source that highlights a full cross section of the fans feelings on issues such as the manager and transfer policy as well as club communication is the best way to go. If the owners are not here they will continue to be lied to and given all the positive spin. But if the independent poll lands on their desks with the true feelings of the fans and sponsors on they must take action. If the fans conducted one on their own the spin doctors would simply say that it was tainted as the organisers were anti Kean and Venky's. We need to be professional in our approach with these people, I know that people inside the club are frustrated because their concerns are not being heard directly by the owners only second hand via the cousin. We need to present them with facts, I know the results and position we are in is factual, however the protests and minority of fans being against them is spin. Knowing business people and especially Indrian busriness people they are very proud people. They will not like to lose face (ie back Kean the whole way) the only thing worse than that to them is to be lied to by their own people, and I truly feel they are realising this is the case. If we act positively now and back up their new concerns with true fan and sponsor feelings I feel they will start to listen. Football fans no longer have the power the once had, quite simply because it is purely a business now and the income from fans is a pittance compared to TV monies etc. So to be heard we to act positively and speak the language of the owners (business) and this will make them sit up and listen. Finally, think about this, if people start slagging you off personally, what is the first thing you do? You get defensive!! You then become awkward to deal with, and perhaps even become slightly arrogant!!?? If you are then presented with facts in a calm and calculated way that proves you are wrong, most people would hold their hands up and admit guilt. Ring any bells? It's about How we communicate with them, not what we are saying!!! You may say this way is too soft, but believe me it will work, minimise negative publicity of our club and get us the result we all want!! Best wishes DG666 dg666
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8:08am Wed 23 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

get a few thousand outside the telegraph house ,stop traffic ,,make news ,writing on here does nothing
venkys out ,kean out
get a few thousand outside the telegraph house ,stop traffic ,,make news ,writing on here does nothing venkys out ,kean out philmoulden
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8:21am Wed 23 Nov 11

philmoulden says...

wheres the news this morning L.E.T.
get some reporting done u lazy set of bstds
wheres the news this morning L.E.T. get some reporting done u lazy set of bstds philmoulden
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8:37am Wed 23 Nov 11

paladin101 says...

one more season wrote:
COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil

st taking the money and running.
With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE.
Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down.
I totally agree with you. It is time to force Venkys to answer some very important questions. There still hasn't been any action from Venkys to back up the big words they have been using when talking about their plans for the club. It seems more and more clear that they are just here to make a big profit and then just jump the sinking ship. They said they wanted to keep our best players and all the young talented players. Then we lose Phil Jones, and next out are Hoilett and Samba for sure. A new contract with a release clause of £16.5m added.....shrewd business people, I don't think so. Not even that can be said about these liars. Sir Alex called it 'a steal'. Jones was obviously worth way more, but the amateurs running our club didn't see that. Apparently they have not cleared the debt like they had promised to do, instead they had to pay off some of their own loans with the money generated from the Jones sale. They got rid off Allardyce who at least guaranteed us Premier League safety, and they put a complete donut in charge and everybody knows the result of that: 6 wins in 33 games. AND STILL THEY ARE MORE DESPERATE TO GIVE HIM A NEW CONTRACT THAN TO SORT OUT OUR PROBLEMS! In fact, Steve Kean is one of our main problems, still they just slap us in the face and offer him a new contract.
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It is surely a case for the Football Association to at least look into and monitor. They must be breaking promises given when they bought the club.
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It is time to turn the heat up on Venkys. Time to give them some really bad PR. I liked this one mentioned in smellthecoffee's post: Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!
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VENKYS OUT!!! VENKYS OUT!!!
[quote][p][bold]one more season[/bold] wrote: COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil st taking the money and running. With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE. Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. It is time to force Venkys to answer some very important questions. There still hasn't been any action from Venkys to back up the big words they have been using when talking about their plans for the club. It seems more and more clear that they are just here to make a big profit and then just jump the sinking ship. They said they wanted to keep our best players and all the young talented players. Then we lose Phil Jones, and next out are Hoilett and Samba for sure. A new contract with a release clause of £16.5m added.....shrewd business people, I don't think so. Not even that can be said about these liars. Sir Alex called it 'a steal'. Jones was obviously worth way more, but the amateurs running our club didn't see that. Apparently they have not cleared the debt like they had promised to do, instead they had to pay off some of their own loans with the money generated from the Jones sale. They got rid off Allardyce who at least guaranteed us Premier League safety, and they put a complete donut in charge and everybody knows the result of that: 6 wins in 33 games. AND STILL THEY ARE MORE DESPERATE TO GIVE HIM A NEW CONTRACT THAN TO SORT OUT OUR PROBLEMS! In fact, Steve Kean is one of our main problems, still they just slap us in the face and offer him a new contract. . It is surely a case for the Football Association to at least look into and monitor. They must be breaking promises given when they bought the club. . It is time to turn the heat up on Venkys. Time to give them some really bad PR. I liked this one mentioned in smellthecoffee's post: Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste! . VENKYS OUT!!! VENKYS OUT!!! paladin101
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8:48am Wed 23 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

dg666 wrote:
Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666
That cousins name is Vineth Raol and he is 25 year old and a bit of a tit I have heard
[quote][p][bold]dg666[/bold] wrote: Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666[/p][/quote]That cousins name is Vineth Raol and he is 25 year old and a bit of a tit I have heard Russ ov the rovers
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9:20am Wed 23 Nov 11

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

dg666 wrote:
Gleechy, I am not supporting the owners, but saying that all protests need to be done in a constructive way, and a poll conducted by an independent source that highlights a full cross section of the fans feelings on issues such as the manager and transfer policy as well as club communication is the best way to go. If the owners are not here they will continue to be lied to and given all the positive spin. But if the independent poll lands on their desks with the true feelings of the fans and sponsors on they must take action. If the fans conducted one on their own the spin doctors would simply say that it was tainted as the organisers were anti Kean and Venky's.

We need to be professional in our approach with these people, I know that people inside the club are frustrated because their concerns are not being heard directly by the owners only second hand via the cousin. We need to present them with facts, I know the results and position we are in is factual, however the protests and minority of fans being against them is spin. Knowing business people and especially Indrian busriness people they are very proud people. They will not like to lose face (ie back Kean the whole way) the only thing worse than that to them is to be lied to by their own people, and I truly feel they are realising this is the case. If we act positively now and back up their new concerns with true fan and sponsor feelings I feel they will start to listen.

Football fans no longer have the power the once had, quite simply because it is purely a business now and the income from fans is a pittance compared to TV monies etc. So to be heard we to act positively and speak the language of the owners (business) and this will make them sit up and listen.

Finally, think about this, if people start slagging you off personally, what is the first thing you do? You get defensive!! You then become awkward to deal with, and perhaps even become slightly arrogant!!?? If you are then presented with facts in a calm and calculated way that proves you are wrong, most people would hold their hands up and admit guilt. Ring any bells? It's about How we communicate with them, not what we are saying!!! You may say this way is too soft, but believe me it will work, minimise negative publicity of our club and get us the result we all want!!

Best wishes

DG666
You mean like the LET doing a Kean in or out poll and a are you happy with Venky's performance poll? Very strange the LET have not responded especially now and left it to Radio Lancs last night?
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Me - I just want to skip all this and move onto a poll about the next manager - the 90mins on Radio Lancs last night was the most depressing 90 mins for BRFC fans since Burnley last beat us!
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and that's ...
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33rd Year And Counting!
[quote][p][bold]dg666[/bold] wrote: Gleechy, I am not supporting the owners, but saying that all protests need to be done in a constructive way, and a poll conducted by an independent source that highlights a full cross section of the fans feelings on issues such as the manager and transfer policy as well as club communication is the best way to go. If the owners are not here they will continue to be lied to and given all the positive spin. But if the independent poll lands on their desks with the true feelings of the fans and sponsors on they must take action. If the fans conducted one on their own the spin doctors would simply say that it was tainted as the organisers were anti Kean and Venky's. We need to be professional in our approach with these people, I know that people inside the club are frustrated because their concerns are not being heard directly by the owners only second hand via the cousin. We need to present them with facts, I know the results and position we are in is factual, however the protests and minority of fans being against them is spin. Knowing business people and especially Indrian busriness people they are very proud people. They will not like to lose face (ie back Kean the whole way) the only thing worse than that to them is to be lied to by their own people, and I truly feel they are realising this is the case. If we act positively now and back up their new concerns with true fan and sponsor feelings I feel they will start to listen. Football fans no longer have the power the once had, quite simply because it is purely a business now and the income from fans is a pittance compared to TV monies etc. So to be heard we to act positively and speak the language of the owners (business) and this will make them sit up and listen. Finally, think about this, if people start slagging you off personally, what is the first thing you do? You get defensive!! You then become awkward to deal with, and perhaps even become slightly arrogant!!?? If you are then presented with facts in a calm and calculated way that proves you are wrong, most people would hold their hands up and admit guilt. Ring any bells? It's about How we communicate with them, not what we are saying!!! You may say this way is too soft, but believe me it will work, minimise negative publicity of our club and get us the result we all want!! Best wishes DG666[/p][/quote]You mean like the LET doing a Kean in or out poll and a are you happy with Venky's performance poll? Very strange the LET have not responded especially now and left it to Radio Lancs last night? . Me - I just want to skip all this and move onto a poll about the next manager - the 90mins on Radio Lancs last night was the most depressing 90 mins for BRFC fans since Burnley last beat us! . and that's ... . 33rd Year And Counting! Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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9:32am Wed 23 Nov 11

Roverthere says...

Re DG666

What you write makes a lot of sense to me, unfortunately the people we are dealing with do not work with facts or logic, if they did things would have changed by now! Venky's are on borrowed time and if no management style change occurs soon, our only option, as reasonable supporters, is to embarass them as much as possible and highlight their incompetence, thus gaining maximum exposure to our cause.
Re DG666 What you write makes a lot of sense to me, unfortunately the people we are dealing with do not work with facts or logic, if they did things would have changed by now! Venky's are on borrowed time and if no management style change occurs soon, our only option, as reasonable supporters, is to embarass them as much as possible and highlight their incompetence, thus gaining maximum exposure to our cause. Roverthere
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10:04am Wed 23 Nov 11

Russ ov the rovers says...

dg666 wrote:
Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666
So your the man to run things now are you?

Please do not partonise us trying to ride in on our coat tails as well as using cheap comments like " not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes" statement,

...and when we where trying our best to get the message over what was you doing to hep us? NOTHING like many others who have now realised what is happening at the club.

What you have had to say hear is old news and nothing many of us do not know already trust me the protest organisaers have acted in an exemplary manner are far more professional than you could ever muster I would imagine, so I would suggest that crawl back under the rock you have arisen from because I for one am not interested.
[quote][p][bold]dg666[/bold] wrote: Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666[/p][/quote]So your the man to run things now are you? Please do not partonise us trying to ride in on our coat tails as well as using cheap comments like " not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes" statement, ...and when we where trying our best to get the message over what was you doing to hep us? NOTHING like many others who have now realised what is happening at the club. What you have had to say hear is old news and nothing many of us do not know already trust me the protest organisaers have acted in an exemplary manner are far more professional than you could ever muster I would imagine, so I would suggest that crawl back under the rock you have arisen from because I for one am not interested. Russ ov the rovers
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10:05am Wed 23 Nov 11

Bazzer says...

An incompetence borne of arrogance and not naivety. That is the most galling thing for me, and the former is far harder to address than the latter.
And Morst, nice to see a bit of parochialism. And no pathetic Vinjay to rebuke you for it!!
An incompetence borne of arrogance and not naivety. That is the most galling thing for me, and the former is far harder to address than the latter. And Morst, nice to see a bit of parochialism. And no pathetic Vinjay to rebuke you for it!! Bazzer
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11:25am Wed 23 Nov 11

Iii1111 says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
showbiz wrote: I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW? Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out.
If they'd have invited me over they would have had it both barrels long before now.....I think "backstabber" Kean has managed to see a lot of the old guard off in order to preserve his position at the club. After all he seems to be the only one with any route through to Venky's. Who can blame him when he manages to trouser £25,000 a week from the Ewood kitty. Kean out!! Venky's out!!!!
smell...they invited supporters....by your own admission you don't support the team so why would you have been invited?
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]showbiz[/bold] wrote: I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW? Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out.[/p][/quote]If they'd have invited me over they would have had it both barrels long before now.....I think "backstabber" Kean has managed to see a lot of the old guard off in order to preserve his position at the club. After all he seems to be the only one with any route through to Venky's. Who can blame him when he manages to trouser £25,000 a week from the Ewood kitty. Kean out!! Venky's out!!!![/p][/quote]smell...they invited supporters....by your own admission you don't support the team so why would you have been invited? Iii1111
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7:30pm Wed 23 Nov 11

dg666 says...

Russia ov the rovers

I wouldn't dream of riding on your coat tails, I won't crawl back under the rock I came from either. Can you not see that I am supporting you but suggest a slightly different approach?

reference my earlier post when people are told what to do they become defensive and attack!! Reading your post point proved. That is how the owners feel, and as such a more subtle and direct approach is needed.

I have said I will be happy to help in any way I can, as long as it is done in the correct manor. If you knew what I do for a living you may understand my approach. As I said happy to help and don't want to take over, but to get to the owners we need to be a little more professional in our approach.

Best wishes

DG666
Russia ov the rovers I wouldn't dream of riding on your coat tails, I won't crawl back under the rock I came from either. Can you not see that I am supporting you but suggest a slightly different approach? reference my earlier post when people are told what to do they become defensive and attack!! Reading your post point proved. That is how the owners feel, and as such a more subtle and direct approach is needed. I have said I will be happy to help in any way I can, as long as it is done in the correct manor. If you knew what I do for a living you may understand my approach. As I said happy to help and don't want to take over, but to get to the owners we need to be a little more professional in our approach. Best wishes DG666 dg666
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7:45pm Wed 23 Nov 11

dg666 says...

Sorry Russ ov the rovers, dam iPad!!
Sorry Russ ov the rovers, dam iPad!! dg666
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