Blackburn Rovers’ main sponsor in attack on Venky’s over ‘lack of leadership’ (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Redbike wrote:
Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.

Rovers til I cry wrote:

Redbike wrote: Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.

I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight. Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine.

madari wrote:
Madari the snake charmer says: Confirmation of a pantomime team run by Clowns..Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha haha!!!!!!!

BlackburnExile wrote:
If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.

juanbbien wrote:
When you think it cant get any worse,some other issue is brought to light,what the bloody hell is going on,they just seem to want to commit financial ruin to an unknown agenda of they have,with kean orchestrating the playing downfall,I'm lost for any answers

thelincolnshirepoach
er wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Well done Mr Wild - your points about the structure of the club (or lack of it) and the failure of Venkys to comunicate with fans are one of the core problems (one of a number unfortunately) that are currently blighting our club.
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I also made the same points to Paul Hunt recently - and to be fair to Mr Hunt, he seemed to be totally au-fait (sorry about the spelling FR) with these problems and in many cases agreed there was a problem. Unfortuantely he seems to be the only senior person working at Ewood as the lack of appointments to senior positions after months and months is nothing short of disgraceful.
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One point I suggested and he liked was to organise a question and answer evening with at least 1 Venky and 200 season ticket holders, drawn at random - he might be keen on the idea but will Venkys ??
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I would also encourage ANY and EVERY current Rovers season ticket holder to email the club through its website and complain (without any abusive language) about the current situation. Say you will not renew your season ticket unless the situation changes and that you would like to air your complaints with a senior Rovers official - they usually will do this and the more people that complain about the same things (lack of structure, broken promises, no comunication, manager who's slightly better than dusty bin etc etc) possibly, just possibly we might get things changed.
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Unfortunately it is one thing getting your point understood by Paul Hunt, a clued up football guy but another thing him being able to get the message across to Venkys - and there in lies the nub of the problem.

BlackburnExile wrote:
I will try again minus the errors!

If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please buy him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I don't care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.

MARCO wrote:
Well said lincolnshire. Lay off Kean what good is it doing the players!!

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder.

I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear

Venky & associates your time is a coming

Patience as worn thin

Besmirching the good name of:

Blackburn

&

BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB

The end is nigh

We want our club back

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach

er wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach


er wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

Rovers til I cry wrote:

Redbike wrote:
Mr. Wild's approach is absolutely spot on and identifies the core issues - i.e. there is no longer a structure to the club. It really does beggar belief how the owners could choose to ignore such pragmatic suggestions from Mr. Wild. Kean isn't the real problem (although he is a big part of it), the source of the problem is the Venky's. I fear that even if Kean goes, then he'll be replaced with no one of any substance or pedigree. Venky's - you have ripped the heart out of OUR Club. Just go now please.

I couldn't agree more. Most of the fans concerns have been about Kean until recently, but Mr Wild's comments show that the owners are the root cause of our plight.

Kean is just a poor quality cog in a larger, unmaintained machine.

ChrisSutton wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
The voice of discontent is growing louder & louder.

I surmise the next home game the Maelstrom will resound loud & clear

Venky & associates your time is a coming

Patience as worn thin

Besmirching the good name of:

Blackburn

&

BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB

The end is nigh

We want our club back

Agreed.

The problem is Venkys are hardly at Ewood so I'm begining to wonder if this will be enough.

According to reports they were genuinely shocked and suprised at the fans anti-Kean and Venkys chants on Saturday at Wigan. Sounds like golden-boy Kean has been spin-doctoring to them eh? Not a suprise given his record of lies to date. Any fan here knows that he spin-doctors every post-match conference. Not to mention his greatest spin-doctoring of all... lying to the police.

The man is a fraud and a liar. I truly hope for the good of Blackburn Rovers that Saturday woke up Venkys to what is really going on and they are currently putting in place plans to replace him.

If not, we are truly relegated.

The only other option as I see it, aside from matchday protests, is to hit Venkys where it hurts - their business. There must be a clever PR Rovers fan out there who has ideas on how we can do something to discredit their name, and make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business (it already is in football...)
-D.K.O

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..

Dr.alan79 wrote:
(I hope that didn't sound patronising or condescending, I meant it in all sincerity)

RobbyRover wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

I think I may know just the man. The guru of ruining company's reputations through negative PR.

Shall I make the call?

fiftyphead wrote:
Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?

kitchener2 wrote:
May be now at last, some of the "give them a chance" brigade will realise that the protesters are right to show so much alarm and concern. When the one and only corporate sponser the club retains voices their disdain as to the running of the club then it is surely time to act, if Venkys can ignore these people we must surely be in far more trouble than we ever imagined! I wonder if any of the Rao family ancestors were ever members of the thuggee sect....possibly because they are doing an excellent job in assasinating our club!

katrew wrote:
Daily Mirror are reporting that Kean signed a new contract today. Story is timed as at 1350. They also state Venky's plan to stay away from matches until the current protests suside!! Check the website out for the info (Hope to God it is not true)

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach



er wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Your ferret stinks wrote:
I'm coming to the conclusion that this situation is exactly what venkys wanted all along! after all how much would someone have to pay to get the publicity that these guys are getting and getting their brand name out there? no one had heard of these people 18 months ago, plus they have sold players and got some money back, reduced the wage bill dramatically by a massive percentage, and are getting more publicity than they ever would if they ran the club ethically and efficiently! and thats why they are keeping Keane to bolster the the publicity machine!!

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG.

Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

Yeah they gave him a new contract KDG. Nixons at Radio lancs who broke this story so it is true i am afraid.

Can't be true, can it??? thats just plain bizarre. Are they Burnley fans?

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:

fiftyphead wrote: Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?

I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out. . 33rd

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Well said that man. I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ? Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW !

saint.george wrote:
Yes, looks like we're dead

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petergray wrote:
The only sensible suggestion I can make is for a peaceful sit-in on the pitch before kick-off next home game.

Wild Rover wrote:
Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say
I cannot and do not defend them any more..
BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please.
I WAS WRONG..

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach




er wrote:
Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners.
Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good.

I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football.
-D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

RoversLoyal wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

bypass06 wrote:
Some reports suggests Kean signed the contract 2 weeks ago, and Nixon of the mirror is just sh$t stirring.

Bazzer wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.

I will second that.

Bazzer wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.

I will second that.

Bazzer wrote:

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:

fiftyphead wrote: Whatever we do needs to be done by the majority so that Kean cannot undermine it in the press. What about black armbands worn to signify the death of everything we held dear? Fly black flags at the match. Show black cards at half time. Something which demonstrates our discontent and which cannot be misconstrued and which will not effect the players. That way more might become involved and the TV cameras will pick it up. There are those still trying to claim that only a tiny minority are disgruntled!!! Unbelievable. Anyone else got any ideas?

I don't think we need to be too clever now. We are reaching the point were like the old days against Swansea it is likely to be a chant of the many to get Kean out instead of just the few who were to impatient initially. His time has run out. . 33rd

We were not too impatient. We were perceptive. You lot dawdled and procrastinated. Stop scoring points and come on board and protest like hell. And I really do not want to hear that Venkys are "naive" anymore, either.

Remember the Bhatti brothers!!!

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs.

I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Gaz M wrote:
Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

alfa111 wrote:

Gaz M wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!

Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder?

Iii1111 wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote: Well said that man. I await with bated breath for the response of Venky ? Get Kean out of Ewood - NOW !

I agree Keen position is now untenable …I hoped he could have turned it around -the Norwich game gave me renewed hope and I tried to muster up support.. now that’s gone! -if action isn’t taken immediately then it’ll be too late. . Kean isn’t the problem though -the owners are…the team isn’t playing great and Keen increasingly looks out of his depth …..I honestly believe the Venkeys have made Keen’s job hundred times harder than it should have been, no manager would have coped in similar circumstance never mind a rooky - . I fear for our next manager-make no mistake the next manager will fail-whoever it is!……the club is being poorly run from top to bottom- decision aren’t being made or put on hold, no clarity is coming from India, everyone at the club is in a constant state of limbo. . The club is in downward spiral at this moment in time with no sunshine on the horizon …I just hope the Venkeys realise now, that EPL football isn’t how they imagined it was going to be -that the bad publicity is having a negative effect on their core businesses, hopefully they decide to sell up. I honestly can’t see what they can possible achieve being owners of BRFC now, when it seems everything is increasingly against them.

ChrisSutton wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs.

I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc.

BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book.

Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore.

It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future.
-D.K.O

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty.

Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

RoversLoyal wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

smellthecoffee wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

thelincolnshirepoach er wrote: Time to lay off Kean in my book, he will go if we get new owners. Time to turn all the attention to Venky's and get them out of Ewood for good. I think they are now running scared and don't want to know.

The only way we can really hurt them is by hurting their business reputation. We need to think of something that discredits their main business. Make the name 'Venkys' a laughing stock in business not just football. -D.K.O

What about a big banner on the hill between the Riverside and Darwen End...."Beware India and the World....Venky's Leave a Nasty Taste!".

Put it up every home and away game until they clear off and take the muppet with them.

Today should be the day we hear anything about Kean being sent for by Venky's, any news on the outcome of the meeting??

Stop with the mealy mouthed weasel words of concern, scabs like you should never, ever be forgotten.

I will second that.

Cheers Bazzer; her conduct was deplorable.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty.

Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

Thanks Melanie I must remember to post one of RoverLoyals juicier posts to me, then you can see how warped he really is, just ask and I will gladly oblige, I saved them all for future reference:0)
But if you like weirdos' go on girl knock yersel out.

Melanie :-) wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

I was often the victim to this kind of abuse, especially as there were only a few of us on here in the summer who saw the warning signs ahead and that Kean was a complete chancer. I and anyone else critical of the manager was frequently called 'not a real supporter' 'the negative agenda' etc. BUT Roversloyal: you have to drop this now and let bygones be bygones. They probably feel a tad silly about their initial stance, but in life I always give huge credit to anyone big enough to say "I was wrong". That takes balls. So the likes of KDG and WildRover are ok in my book. Blackburn Rovers is a proud club that we should not let die. It's more important then ever that all supporters stick together and have complete unity for the good of our club. Fans cannot be divided anymore. It looks like we're going down now, and we may even be losing some players. But us fans will always be here. So let's work out how to get this slimy little weasal and Venkys out of our club. As whilst they're in charge (with Jerome Anderson sniffing around) it's quite clear this is not our Rovers anymore and we have no future. -D.K.O

That was a touching post ChrisSutton! And well said!! I understand RoversLoyal, he cuts a little too close to the bone sometimes and is lucky in some ways not to have been blocked by LT... but he is very funny, writes well and makes good points too!!! There is no doubting his genuine concern and passion. RoversLoyal's ongoing saga with KDG was funny and in some way it was/is symbolic of the rift and civil war between the fans.... ... come on RovbersLoyal, takes ChrisSuttons advice! Shake cyber hands with those who have now seen sense!!! Don't be consumed by hate!

hawaii 5-0 wrote:
What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions?

When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview.

i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans.

When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3.

C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation?

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

Gaz M wrote:
Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

Gaz M wrote: Just read the Kean contract article! looks like the only way to rid us of this vermin that has infected our club is either a bomb or a talented sniper!!

Hmm im not abad shot froom500mtre my groupings pretty good to, there is a nice treeline above the fields between b/burn end/walkers steel iwonder?

Do you need a spotter?

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

RoversLoyal wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!!

THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME!

Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback.

Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic!

She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well.

Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along.

I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-)

I am very very worried about the club though.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0)
COYB

RoversLoyal wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!!

THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME!

Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback.

Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic!

She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well.

Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along.

I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-)

I am very very worried about the club though.

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

Melanie :-) wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0)
COYB

But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too.

BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out!

KDG, what school do you go to?

I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team?

Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler.

thelincolnshirepoach
er wrote:
Folks, please listen into the debate tonight at 6pm on Radio Lancashire, txt, email or phone in to show them how Venky's have to go, after the shambolic way that Rovers are being run. here are the contact details: TXT 81333 start your txt with the word Lancs Email: radio.lancashire@bbc .co.uk Or phone 583583. Let's give Venky's a real rocket. As I listen live AT 17:15 there are already loads of stuff being sent to Radio Lancs, Let's give them HELL !

maggie-T wrote:

hawaii 5-0 wrote:
What I want to know is when is the LT going to grow some wotsits and start asking difficult questions?

When are you going to dispute what Kean tells you and make it a difficult interview.

i.e, when he said about only genuine fans going to QPR, Fulham etc, why was he not asked if he thought the 15,000 season ticket holders were not genuine fans.

When he said that if we'd got another 4 points from Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich we'd be halfway up the league, was it not poited out to him that actually we'd still in the bottom 3.

C'mon LT, you are letting your readers and the town down. What is your explanation?

Since when has it been the LETs job to take responsibility for what's happening at deadwood?
Your all complaining, and yet you all wanted a big conglomerate to come and take over in the hope that it might make you a big club, you wanted Sam allerdyce out, you got your wishes, don't whine and winge now, and the good old walker trust? They sold you out too, roll on the fire sale!!
The fun has only just begun!!

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football.
What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces?
what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals.
In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season.
Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan?
What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time?
Do you like cheese? :0)

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Look I just want to talk about football thats all, whats wrong with that? As soon as I post I get a good kicking off someone. Actually at the moment I get a good kicking off everyone so, what would you do if I just stopped, your lives would be so dull :0) I thought you liked to kick my arse. Debate is good but for that you need more than one opinion. Thats where I come in :0)
COYB

But you and your friends were so wrong for so long and were so insulting too.

BUT... you are NOW right. Kean Out and Venkys out!

KDG, what school do you go to?

I know a girl at Darwen Vale, have you just started there? Do they have a girls football team?

Sorry for calling you a Bunny Boiler.

Call me what you like, I'm not easily offended, all I care about Rovers thats all.
I don't go to school I'm way too old. Someones pulling your leg with that one.

BlackburnExile wrote:
If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.

BlackburnExile wrote:
If anyone sees Wayne Wild at the Swansea match, can they please by him a pint? Or failing that, ask him to get you one on his corporate tab? I dare care how he gets the pint, but I want him to drink one, because these are some heroic words, and I've been waiting for someone in the right position to come out and chin Venkys. Well said, sir.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I have had my fall outs with KDG and we have both said things to each other that probably shouldnt have been said - but this continued digging at her is WAY out of order.
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I would like say though that KDG and others (Ricktvr, Wildrover, Ii1111 etc) are not and have not been "wrong" in all this. They have said all along that they were perpared to give SK "time" - now they all say "his time is up" - that is not "being wrong", that is simply giving him more of a chance to prove himself than most of us did.
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Like CS said - we need to come together stop any infighting and focus the "villans" - Venkys !!

Melanie :-) wrote:
JC - these guys were right. PLEASE STOP ARGUING!

RoversLoyal and many many others warned many times about what was going bad!!!

PLEASE STOP BEING SO BAD TEMPERED ALL THE TIME!

Why can't you guys just admit you got it wrong and move forward with the protesters - together!!!

It makes me sad to read your angry posts.

Leave people alone who do not agree with you - one thing RoversLoyal and many many others said was... the Kean/Venky's people and their friends are very aggressive and insulting - you do not listen to the fans!! JC - listen to the fans!!!!

NO MORE CIVIL WAR!!!

J.C - Rishton wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

LOLOL. That's it! :-) She's just a kid!!!

THAT'S WHY SHE INSISTS ON HAVING THE FINAL SAY ALL THE TIME!

Look Melanie, i've read your posts and thank's for your positive feedback.

Your posts are quite innocent in someways, the rancorous sourness of True_Bluie_84 and KDG is very off putting.... loved the image of KDG as a "Bunny Boiler".. classic!

She probably pulls the wings of Lady Birds as well.

Still, it's probably best to leave these weasel's to themselves, they are on board now and agree that we were right all along and that they were wrong all along.

I can't tell you how satisfying that is, i will be gracious in victory ;-)

I am very very worried about the club though.

VICTORY ??? - what victory ??
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She said she'd give him more time, now she said "he's had his chance and failed" - she never said "Kean is God".
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I had many "arguments with KDG" as far back as June when I was predicting this to be a disasterous season if we didnt buy big and early in the transfer market - do I feel VICTORIOUS today because my words have proved to be right ?? - NO, I feel desperately unhappy that we are 19th in the EPL and seemingly heading for the championship.
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I would love Rovers to win the next few games under SK (if, God forbid, he's still here) and if so I will come on here and say to KDG, Wildrover etc - you were right to give him more time cos he's finally come good !! (although I don't expect this to happen and if it were up to me his feet wouldnt touch the ground).
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Why do I want to do this - because WE NEED TO WIN FOOTBALL MATCHES not massage our own over inflated ego's !

Melanie :-) wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football.
What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces?
what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals.
In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season.
Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan?
What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time?
Do you like cheese? :0)

I like cheese yes, why?

I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan.

You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree.

Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange.

The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-)

Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up.

Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-(

Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky.

Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!!

I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!!

I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say.

Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?!

Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-)

French Rover wrote:
Well said Mr Wild....maybe your public plea for communication and the restoring of some structure to the club will get us all some much needed answers. Your offer to mediate between the fans and the club and owners should also be listened to by Venkys as this situation is crying out for someone to take soe kind of position of normality. Right now we seem to have nothing solid at Ewood anymore, just a castle built on sand and sinking more quickly every week.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

Melanie :-) wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Russ ov the rovers wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

Wild Rover wrote: Ok, I know Wayne and have done business with him on occassions. I have to take notice of his sensible and measured comments. Clearly we have a problem as bad as anything that the protest movement have said. Following Wigan I gave up on Kean - at last you will say I cannot and do not defend them any more.. BUT if we are going to protest lets keep it dignified and avoid threats and abuse please. I WAS WRONG..

About time an' all.

Respect to you for that.

"Respect"? Russ.... this gut spat venom at the Venky Out/Kean protesters; the likes of KDG, Li111, Wild Rover, True_Blue_84 - brayed like donkeys on hind legs. I have no respect for these cranks and odd balls.

Very True RoversLoyal, but in the end he admitted he was wrong better late than never I suppose, eitherway just goes to show what we have all said (anti-kean/venkys) was right and believe we should all stick together and stay the course from now on and anyone who still backs these ar$eholes can go and ....

I agree with Rovers Loyal. He makes a good point. KDG is just plain nasty. Then again, i hear what you say Russ.... come on RoversLoyal... i totally understand what you mean about some of these people that have changed their minds... KDG used to wind me up, this is my first post and i nearly registered because she used to wind me up... but at least these people have seen the light!

I know how KDG reacts and at first she use to wind me up till I found out obviously she was a girl, now I just read her posts because at times they often make me laugh because she will stand her ground regardless even if I dont often agree with her views I have to respect them.

I knew it! I knew she was just a girl. That explains a lot. I am a woman, and i play football, i made the mistake of thinking she was a woman ;-) May be RoversLoyal did too?

Okay melanie as you are a footballer and I want to talk about football.
What system do you prefer defensively, a zonal or man for man, or in your case woman to woman when defending set pieces?
what defensive strategy should we employ in order to stop shipping so many goals.
In your opinion what is Rovers best defensive line up considering we haven't had a settled back four or a clean sheet all season.
Do you think we'll see the vukavic fellar in shorts this season on a regular basis, what attributes does he bring to our game plan?
What formation do you think best suits Rovers needs at this time?
Do you like cheese? :0)

I like cheese yes, why?

I play football, i don't talk about it like you do. I play it - at a good level, that is why i know you are not a football fan.

You have no care for Rovers, you just like to disagree.

Maybe you are a Bunny Boiler? You are very very strange.

The objective of the game is to score goals! Possession football is good but boring to watch. I prefer Counter-attacking football, the best thing about it is we use the other team’s desperation to score :-)

Long-ball/Direct football is ugly but can be effective, but you need a strong target man and we woman are too small really, you will find this out when you grow up.

Playing with wingers is exciting for us players and the fans, spreading the ball wide, USING different angles of attack and giving opportunities to the winger; I like to take on the fullback and drag central defenders out of position, cut inside and move forward at an angle, or whip in a cross from deep for the strikers to attack in my dreams!I am not that good :-(

Zonal defense is to cover for a team’s or player’s lack of pace or technique, every defender and midfielder is given a zone on the pitch to cover when the opposition has the ball. This is good during set pieces, but does relies on every player doing it and keeping their concentration and it can be risky.

Man-to-man marking needs discipline by the marker, and good decision making by the manager but not with Kean!! Man-to-Man marking can be dodgy if a slower defender is matched up with a fast striker!!!

I don't know what we should do to stop shipping so many goals, that is Kean's job and it depends on who we play!!!

I think Givet and Samba in the middle, Olsson left back and the versatile Nelsen at right back i would say.

Is it true to lock yourself in a dark room and self-harm then write really bad poetry about it?!

Is KDG a troubled EMO? :-)

Thanks melanie, at last an opinion on football.
Do you like Peas?

I think you are very young, in fact I think you are still at school.

The problem in this country is we don't teach zonal marking through the different ages at school so when you become a senior and some manager springs it on you, You don't know how to play it.
Man for man marking is what we are used to in the english league.
Its very easy to mark a player out of the game even if he has greater pace than you, you just block him out and lean in. The trick is keeping between him and where the ball is going
Zonal marking is good when you have a back four who knows how it works. The idea is to mark the zone and not the player. You attack the ball space. The problems of this system is when players move and jostle for position and you end up with more in one zone than the others making attacking the ball space very difficult or downright impossible. The confusion arises when " handing players over " from one zone to another. Players forget to attack the ball and start to wander with the player and when you end up with lots of the opposition in one zone you end up conceding too easily.
Foreign players have a better appreciation of zonal marking as they get trained that way from the beginning.
I prefer man to man as each defender knows who he has to stop. The problem with man to man is you are more focused on where your man is instead of where the ball is.
To stop conceding goals Rovers need to work on a more man to man system, at the moment they appear to be trying zonal hence players from the opposition looking like they are in acres of space when they recieve the ball. What with that and being very slow to close down we are just sitting ducks.
We need to be more man to man and defenders need to close the game out quicker.
Kean cannot seem to get the guys in one cohesive defensive unit. Too much confusion and lacking in effort when not in possession.
Other than that we are scoring goals so it should be easier just to sort out defensive duties.
I must say defensively I have been a bit disappointed with Samba this season. Considering our teams height we concede to many from set plays. Givet has been our best centre back but samba has been very average. Dann I'm not to sure about but I think he needs a stable partnership and a few more games to know who goes and who stays.

What is EMO?

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.

Dukes wrote:
I written to many letters I never got a respond by them,but I managed to dig in more, I finally got somewhere, I am asking them to come clean and remove kean but its taking a hell of a time for them to listen to.I never off line or off the phone i am working my socks off here because we fans are stressed out badly the beloved club we love are in a mess.

Baileyblue wrote:
http://www.espn.co.u

k/football/sport/sto

ry/122680.html
Kean says nows not the time to be signing new contract, who knows what's happening, not sure how old this story is though

philmoulden wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.

good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it

smellthecoffee wrote:
IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!!

goz wrote:

philmoulden wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.

good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it

Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible. Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on. To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda? What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions. Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’. Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’. They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.

smellthecoffee wrote:
IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT KEAN HAS BEEN REWARDED BY VENKY'S WITH A NEW CONTRACT WHICH WILL GUARANTEE HIM AT LEAST £25,000 PER WEEK AND DOES NOT INCLUDE A CLAUSE IN CASE THEY DECIDE TO SACK HIM!!!

goz wrote:

philmoulden wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.

good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it

Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.

philmoulden wrote:

goz wrote:

philmoulden wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Come on, LT, and expose this lot. This is one of the biggest stories in your newspaper’s history and you have a duty to carry out a thorough investigation into this shambolic mess. It is incomprehensible.
Mistake after mistake after mistake. Gaff after gaff after gaff. But, then, maybe not. Perhaps everything is being done deliberately. There are some very pertinent points here and WEC Group have given you an ideal springboard to root out what is going on.
To leave Wigan at half-time and then (reportedly) say they will not come back until the protests have died down, then ignore your major sponsor, shows utter contempt for the club. What IS their agenda?
What prompted them to make the decisions they have made? On what advice? Where does Jerome Anderson, Kentaro and Zahavi, with their vested interests, fit in? Why have they assigned future income to the bank when they promised to clear the club’s debt? Why did they so spectacularly renege on their take-over promises to respect the Jack Walker legacy, to keep the management team in place and ensure that the Rovers remained one of the best run clubs? Why have they bought seven or eight players ‘for the future’ and what is their transfer policy? Why is this not only a ship without a rudder – but also without a captain? And many other questions.
Speak to John Williams and Tom Finn. I know they will have confidentiality clauses in their pay-off deals and cannot speak on the record, but there are ‘sources’.
Speak to Sam, the ex-directors, ex-players like Bryan Douglas, John Jensen and others strictly off the record. You don’t need names – just ‘sources’.
They are wreaking havoc on the biggest institution in your circulation area. We are hurtling towards catastrophe and you are sitting back watching it happen. Uncover what is going on. You owe it to all supporters.

good post
and shame on you lancashire telegraph ,a local newspaper should be all over this story ,probing and getting to know answers ,,are rovers live on sky this week ,i wish all the fans would storm the pitch ,stop the game midway and give it venom to the venkys ,that way it will go worldwide and open eyes to whats happening ,no other way will do ,,im sure stoke fans will support it to ,
shame on you L.E.T for letting your readers down ,your football club and spitting in the face of our own uncle jack ,,shame on you all , kean u should quit now and have nothing more to do with it ,,do yourself a favour and forget the money , quit now or pay for it

Once a thug always a thug Mouldy, just what this club needs you being dragged out the opposition end 2 minutes before kick off. Give thi a big round of applause and you can take a bow to the whole stadium. Pity your kid aint here to take the lead eh pal.....top lad I.M.

your right about our kid ,he would,nt mess around ,sure the venkys would know him by name by now ,he taught me all i know and im gonna use it

no matter wot the weather

kitchener2 wrote:
They saw and heard the fans reaction at Wigan and they did'nt like it, so now they intend to teach us a lesson with this ridiculous decision.well, they want media coverage, so let's give it to them,stay away from the next home game. If we let the team play in an empty stadium that would generate plenty of news...Never mind backing the team,it's time the team backed us!

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Well we are relegated then. 26 games left and as has been proved by his tenure thus far, Kean is not capable of stringing a run of results together.

I'm beyond stunned at the news of his improved contract. After Venkys saw the fan unrest and anti-Venkys/Kean chants first hand on Saturday, this is nothing short of two fingers up to every single Rovers fan.

Even if you're not a Rovers fan, you have to think - why, in a world of business, supply and demand, is an improved contract even necessary? In football a new contract with improved terms is usually offered on the basis there are other parties out there who would hire said employee, the increase in money usually reflecting their value.

Well is there ANY club up and down the land who would want Steve Kean as manager right now? I don't see a queue of clubs after him. Forget about the issue of even sacking him. Why is it necessary for an improved contract?

F-Venkys, F-Kean and RIP Blackburn Rovers. I think I'm done. I will not be attending Ewood again until this slimy little weasal Kean is removed. I can't bear to see his sh!t-eating grin again, he doesn't deserve a single penny from Rovers.
-D.K.O

dg666 wrote:
Hi all,

Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must.

I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting.

I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment.

So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know.

(please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh)

Best Wishes

DG666

one more season wrote:
COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil st taking the money and running. With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE. Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down.

showbiz wrote:
I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW?

Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out.

one more season wrote:
COME ON TELEGRAPH start asking proper questions, like WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY at our club?WHERES IT GOING?How did they pay for the club? and are the debts paid off?Are they hanging on for the January window to sell Samba,N'zonzi and Hoilett to pocket more money? ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE US INTO ADMINISTRATION?,whil

st taking the money and running.
With no backroom structure of experience and so many empty positions added to the way the club is being run SURELY THERE IS A CASE FOR THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION TO INVESTIGATE.
Come on Telegraph dont sit on the fence and let idiots like Kean and Venkys walk all over you and make you as unpopular as them for letting us fans down.

dg666 wrote:
Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666

dg666 wrote:
Gleechy, I am not supporting the owners, but saying that all protests need to be done in a constructive way, and a poll conducted by an independent source that highlights a full cross section of the fans feelings on issues such as the manager and transfer policy as well as club communication is the best way to go. If the owners are not here they will continue to be lied to and given all the positive spin. But if the independent poll lands on their desks with the true feelings of the fans and sponsors on they must take action. If the fans conducted one on their own the spin doctors would simply say that it was tainted as the organisers were anti Kean and Venky's.

We need to be professional in our approach with these people, I know that people inside the club are frustrated because their concerns are not being heard directly by the owners only second hand via the cousin. We need to present them with facts, I know the results and position we are in is factual, however the protests and minority of fans being against them is spin. Knowing business people and especially Indrian busriness people they are very proud people. They will not like to lose face (ie back Kean the whole way) the only thing worse than that to them is to be lied to by their own people, and I truly feel they are realising this is the case. If we act positively now and back up their new concerns with true fan and sponsor feelings I feel they will start to listen.

Football fans no longer have the power the once had, quite simply because it is purely a business now and the income from fans is a pittance compared to TV monies etc. So to be heard we to act positively and speak the language of the owners (business) and this will make them sit up and listen.

Finally, think about this, if people start slagging you off personally, what is the first thing you do? You get defensive!! You then become awkward to deal with, and perhaps even become slightly arrogant!!?? If you are then presented with facts in a calm and calculated way that proves you are wrong, most people would hold their hands up and admit guilt. Ring any bells? It's about How we communicate with them, not what we are saying!!! You may say this way is too soft, but believe me it will work, minimise negative publicity of our club and get us the result we all want!!

Best wishes

DG666

dg666 wrote:
Hi all, Sorry guys I promised I wouldn't comment on here until Steve Kean was removed from his duties, however I am now so concerned about my beloved club I feel I must. I was talking last night to several people who work at the club in different capacities (I can't really say anymore but they are good honest reliable people.) One of the problems is that Venky's have put a cousin of theirs in charge at the club, and nothing, and I mean nothing can get to the owners without going through him first. So in this case even going through Commercial Manager Simon Williams, he has then still to go via the cousin before it goes to Venky's. the guy at the club has no football background and is so arrogant that all the staff hate him, and he has no idea what he is doing. So it wouldn't surprise me if the owners didn't know about this situation until very recently. It does not excuse in anyway the way that a loyal supporter and large sponsor has been treated, but to me highlights the complete incompetence and lack of understanding these people have in running a football club. Secondly it is also now becoming clear that the majority of the protests and bull coming out of SK mouth has been also kept away from the owners, not only because SK wants to keep his job but also because the cousin will look a fool for running such a shambles and letting things go so far without acting. I am now actually sure that with this going to press and other things coming to light, the owners may start to listen. We the fans need to be a little more structured in what we do. Nobody likes being told what to do, not even Indian owners!! We need to provide them with solid evidence of fans feelings, not just chanting an banners, or even I'll thought out planes. We need to strike while the Iron is hot, we need a real poll of a true cross section of supporters carried out by an independent organisation. This will then remove any questions by them and ensure the whole process is transparent and neutral, and the results are collated away from anybody who may have a positive or negative influence on the outcome. If the outcome is that SK needs to go and Communication from the owners and Club needs to be vastly improved then they must listen!! They are business people and as such we need to get our point across to them in a coordinated and fact based fashion. They will then quite simply have to act. If their main customers (the fans) and sponsors are not happy with the current running of the club and as such are deciding to vote with their feet and money, then it will cost the owners more in the long run. Even if their long term goal is to asset strip they will still need income to keep the club running so they can do that. No ticket sales or sponsorship means more investment from them or the club goes bust and they lose their entire investment. So how do we do this? I know several companies that will conduct the survey and would be happy to be part of any group of supporters who wishes to take POSITIVE action to resolve this mess. It's time we acted in an organised professional man nor, we need an official group, anybody interested let me know. (please excuse any silly mistakes just typed this on my iPad and can't proof read, doh) Best Wishes DG666

smellthecoffee wrote:

showbiz wrote: I wonder how the nine happy-clappers who went to Pune feel NOW? Well done messrs Duckworth, Haworth and cronies - sucked in and spat out.

If they'd have invited me over they would have had it both barrels long before now.....I think "backstabber" Kean has managed to see a lot of the old guard off in order to preserve his position at the club. After all he seems to be the only one with any route through to Venky's. Who can blame him when he manages to trouser £25,000 a week from the Ewood kitty. Kean out!! Venky's out!!!!