East Lancs health chief backs fluoridation plans

EAST Lancashire’s leading public health expert has backed proposals to add fluoride to the region’s drinking water.

Dr Ellis Friedman, director of public health for NHS East Lancashire, said it would be unethical not to add the controversial mineral to supplies, as it had been shown as the most effective way of dramatically improving dental health.

Primary care trusts and councils have been asked by the strategic health authority NHS North West to consider further investigation of fluoridation, and NHS East Lancashire backed plans for a widespread consultation on the issue.

A scheme which would cover East Lancashire along with the rest of the North West would cost up to £102 million, and up to £6.4 million in annual running costs.

Anti-fluoride campaigners, who claim the additive can cause serious damage to teeth, said they feared any consultation would be biased towards the pro-fluoride side.

Consultations with doctors, dentists and the public look set to begin within months, and some local councils including Hyndburn and Pendle have already registered their opposition to fluoride.

Dr Friedman made his support clear at the trust’s board meeting on Thursday, where directors had given speakers from both sides of the argument 10 minutes each to make their cases, before voting on whether to back a full consultation on the issue.

He said: “Fluoridation of the water at a population level is much more effective than any other mechanism for improving the dental health of deprived people, and therefore you have to ask whether it is ethical to withhold this effective treatment from the population.

“In principle I am in favour and see no reason not to proceed with it.”

His comments were echoed by Sheila Jones, of the British Fluoridation Society, representing supporters of the scheme. She said the additive had led to a 19 per cent fall in young children with cavities after being introduced in the West Midlands in the 1970s.

But Doug Cross, of UK Councils against Fluoridation, said putting the additive in water meant mass, unregulated medication that he understood to be illegal under European medicines law.

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3:51pm Sat 27 Sep 08

frank says...

why poison everyone because parents are too bone idle to get their children to brush their teeth?
try tackling the cause of the problem, not the symptoms for a change
why poison everyone because parents are too bone idle to get their children to brush their teeth? try tackling the cause of the problem, not the symptoms for a change frank

8:02am Sun 28 Sep 08

Frankacne says...

More idiotic tosh from the apparently insane Paper Doc at the PCT. Give the Parrot a fresh cuttle fish. "Safe and effective, who's a pretty boy then " His power point presentations are funny as well. Most of our council listened in sad disbelief but were unable to spot even the slightest trace of science at all. Plenty of paper chasing and waffle though and Even a very silly claim that dental fluorosis is only a cosmetic problem but of course, The same could also be said of the Doc himself. I suppose when he forgets to take his Meds he is likely to wander the streets of East Lancashire claiming to be the CMO. He is also a rather fine example of how damaging fluoride is to the brain and a good candidate for the men in white coats. At least in this, his latest outburst in the Lancs Tel. he did say one thing that was very true... "I see no reason!" Can't really argue with that can we?
More idiotic tosh from the apparently insane Paper Doc at the PCT. Give the Parrot a fresh cuttle fish. "Safe and effective, who's a pretty boy then " His power point presentations are funny as well. Most of our council listened in sad disbelief but were unable to spot even the slightest trace of science at all. Plenty of paper chasing and waffle though and Even a very silly claim that dental fluorosis is only a cosmetic problem but of course, The same could also be said of the Doc himself. I suppose when he forgets to take his Meds he is likely to wander the streets of East Lancashire claiming to be the CMO. He is also a rather fine example of how damaging fluoride is to the brain and a good candidate for the men in white coats. At least in this, his latest outburst in the Lancs Tel. he did say one thing that was very true... "I see no reason!" Can't really argue with that can we? Frankacne

11:10pm Mon 29 Sep 08

enlightened says...

First of all, it needs to be stated that the 'substance' referred to as 'Fluoride' is a misnomer - there is no such substance listed in the periodic chart of the elements, nor in the prestigious CRC handbook, nor in the sacred 'bible' of the pharmaceutical industry - the illustrious 'Merck Index'. Instead, we find a GAS called Fluorine - and from the use of this gas in various industries such as aluminium manufacturing and the nuclear industry -certain toxic by-products are created which have 'captured' fluorine molecules. One such toxic, poisonous 'by-product' is called sodium Fluoride - which according to the Merck Index is primarily used as rat and cockroach poison and is also the active ingredient in most toothpastes and as an "additive to drinking water". But sadly, there is much more to this sordid tale.

It is a matter of record that sodium fluoride has been used for behaviour control of populations.

At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Elliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany. While there, he was told by German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff.
This scheme was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain, and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.

Both the Germans and the Russians added fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile.

It is interesting that Dr. George Estabrooks, an advisor to the United States Government on hypnotism and psychological behaviour control, later became chairman of the Department of Psychology at Colgate University. Internationally, Colgate was and remains today the most ardent producer and advocate for fluoridated toothpaste. The use of chemicals by the government to modify behaviour of select population groups is not new. During the first two World Wars, bromides were administered to service men to dim the libido in an attempt to inhibit forays into local bordellos.

We are told by the fanatical ideologists who are advocating the fluoridation of the water supplies in this country that their purpose is to reduce the incidence of tooth decay in children, and it is the plausibility of this excuse, plus the gullibility of the public and the cupidity of public officials that is responsible for the present spread of artificial water fluoridation in this country.

But clearly, the real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason, there are many ways in which it could be done which are much easier, cheaper and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination, control and loss of liberty.

Did you know that sodium Fluoride is also one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin Nerve Gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Ph
osphoryl FLUORIDE) - (Yes folks, the same Sarin Nerve Gas that terrorists released on a crowded Japanese subway train!).

for those of you too lazy to research any of this historical and scientific FACT and would just prefer to watch a film about it :: take a look at this documentary video on google video.

http://video.google.
co.uk/videoplay?doci
d=-79846698335666464
76&ei=MlHhSL7_OoqwiA
Lh7J2aCw&q=fluoride

People of Lancashire, we need to educate others, organise and absolutely resist this proposed criminal mass poisoning which can only be seen as a prelude to something far worse.
First of all, it needs to be stated that the 'substance' referred to as 'Fluoride' is a misnomer - there is no such substance listed in the periodic chart of the elements, nor in the prestigious CRC handbook, nor in the sacred 'bible' of the pharmaceutical industry - the illustrious 'Merck Index'. Instead, we find a GAS called Fluorine - and from the use of this gas in various industries such as aluminium manufacturing and the nuclear industry -certain toxic by-products are created which have 'captured' fluorine molecules. One such toxic, poisonous 'by-product' is called sodium Fluoride - which according to the Merck Index is primarily used as rat and cockroach poison and is also the active ingredient in most toothpastes and as an "additive to drinking water". But sadly, there is much more to this sordid tale. It is a matter of record that sodium fluoride has been used for behaviour control of populations. At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Elliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany. While there, he was told by German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff. This scheme was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain, and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. Both the Germans and the Russians added fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile. It is interesting that Dr. George Estabrooks, an advisor to the United States Government on hypnotism and psychological behaviour control, later became chairman of the Department of Psychology at Colgate University. Internationally, Colgate was and remains today the most ardent producer and advocate for fluoridated toothpaste. The use of chemicals by the government to modify behaviour of select population groups is not new. During the first two World Wars, bromides were administered to service men to dim the libido in an attempt to inhibit forays into local bordellos. We are told by the fanatical ideologists who are advocating the fluoridation of the water supplies in this country that their purpose is to reduce the incidence of tooth decay in children, and it is the plausibility of this excuse, plus the gullibility of the public and the cupidity of public officials that is responsible for the present spread of artificial water fluoridation in this country. But clearly, the real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason, there are many ways in which it could be done which are much easier, cheaper and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination, control and loss of liberty. Did you know that sodium Fluoride is also one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin Nerve Gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Ph osphoryl FLUORIDE) - (Yes folks, the same Sarin Nerve Gas that terrorists released on a crowded Japanese subway train!). for those of you too lazy to research any of this historical and scientific FACT and would just prefer to watch a film about it :: take a look at this documentary video on google video. http://video.google. co.uk/videoplay?doci d=-79846698335666464 76&ei=MlHhSL7_OoqwiA Lh7J2aCw&q=fluoride People of Lancashire, we need to educate others, organise and absolutely resist this proposed criminal mass poisoning which can only be seen as a prelude to something far worse. enlightened

10:42am Thu 2 Oct 08

now in the north says...

enlightened of blackpool, we are investigating fluoride. We have already been involved with informing the childrens head teachers etc. I was wondering if you are taking an active role in anti-fluoridation as currently we are working alone on this and could do with linking up.
Best wishes
enlightened of blackpool, we are investigating fluoride. We have already been involved with informing the childrens head teachers etc. I was wondering if you are taking an active role in anti-fluoridation as currently we are working alone on this and could do with linking up. Best wishes now in the north
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