Demand soars for Blackburn with Darwen alley gates

Demand soars for Blackburn with Darwen alley gates

Demand soars for Blackburn with Darwen alley gates

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Local government reporter

BLACKBURN with Darwen Council’s alley gating scheme has been a victim of its own success.

More than 70 new applications to seal off back streets have been received since April 1 but there is only enough cash in the budget for the financial year to pay for 20.

The scheme, which has a budget of around £100,000 a year, has proved a success in tackling fly-tipping, anti-social behaviour and crime.

But on Thursday borough neighbourhoods’ lead member Arshid Mahmood will tell the council’s executive board the upgraded scheme, introduced in 2011, cannot meet demand.

The senior councillors will consider three petitions from residents for the installation of lockable alley gates with keys for householders.

They are from residents in Downham Street on the Audley/Queen’s Park border, Winmarleigh Street, Audley Range, and Coniston Road, Little Harwood. Coun Mahmood will recommend the board write back to petitioners informing them ‘the council currently has in excess of 70 new applications to process’ and ‘ the funding does not allow all applications, therefore these requests will be investigated to ensure those with the greatest need are successful’.

Tory leader Mike Lee, responsible for the first £100,000 scheme in 2008 when a coalition with the Liberal Democrats ran the borough, called for the budget for alley gating to be increased.

Coun Mahmood said “Since its launch in 2011 the alley gates scheme has been a success and recent police figures show that they have had a positive impact on reducing crime and anti-social behaviour within our borough .

“From 2011 the council has installed 323 alley gates through 123 approved schemes. We are looking to install a further 20 schemes this year.

“Any new schemes that are approved this year will be prioritised on need.

He added that the council has other means to tackle crime and anti-social behaviour.

Coun Lee said in the long run the scheme saves the council money, adding: “If there are too many applications for the budget, the budget should be increased.”

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4:21pm Mon 11 Aug 14

noddy57 says...

A sad indictment of the times we now live in . Unsightly but needed ,
A sad indictment of the times we now live in . Unsightly but needed , noddy57
  • Score: 20

4:34pm Mon 11 Aug 14

andy1 says...

noddy57 wrote:
A sad indictment of the times we now live in . Unsightly but needed ,
Been used for years around Pendle and the Burnley area. Helps reduce crime and anti social behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: A sad indictment of the times we now live in . Unsightly but needed ,[/p][/quote]Been used for years around Pendle and the Burnley area. Helps reduce crime and anti social behaviour. andy1
  • Score: 18

4:35pm Mon 11 Aug 14

andy1 says...

noddy57 wrote:
A sad indictment of the times we now live in . Unsightly but needed ,
Been used for years around Pendle and the Burnley area. Helps reduce crime and anti social behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: A sad indictment of the times we now live in . Unsightly but needed ,[/p][/quote]Been used for years around Pendle and the Burnley area. Helps reduce crime and anti social behaviour. andy1
  • Score: 9

4:45pm Mon 11 Aug 14

shytalk says...

Bet the clothes peg salesmen and metal reclamation executives can't wait.
Bet the clothes peg salesmen and metal reclamation executives can't wait. shytalk
  • Score: 16

7:05pm Mon 11 Aug 14

notac says...

shytalk wrote:
Bet the clothes peg salesmen and metal reclamation executives can't wait.
they seem to have gone to ground thankfully
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: Bet the clothes peg salesmen and metal reclamation executives can't wait.[/p][/quote]they seem to have gone to ground thankfully notac
  • Score: 7

7:26pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Black Car Guy. says...

On Accrington Road there are these gates but there is still rubbish behind them. When not get the dirty tramps behind them to clean up their own mess?
On Accrington Road there are these gates but there is still rubbish behind them. When not get the dirty tramps behind them to clean up their own mess? Black Car Guy.
  • Score: 23

7:29pm Mon 11 Aug 14

the beaver says...

12 staff at Blackburn with Darwen on £100,000 plus articles like this do not wash with the public. The council borrowed £17 million to fix the roads over a year ago use that they must still have most of it, unless it was used for new carpets in the town hall it certainly has not been used on the roads.
12 staff at Blackburn with Darwen on £100,000 plus articles like this do not wash with the public. The council borrowed £17 million to fix the roads over a year ago use that they must still have most of it, unless it was used for new carpets in the town hall it certainly has not been used on the roads. the beaver
  • Score: 22

7:36pm Mon 11 Aug 14

CapitaBackHander says...

the beaver wrote:
12 staff at Blackburn with Darwen on £100,000 plus articles like this do not wash with the public. The council borrowed £17 million to fix the roads over a year ago use that they must still have most of it, unless it was used for new carpets in the town hall it certainly has not been used on the roads.
I am guessing that money borrowed for roads has to be used on...........roads.

Look a mess and might as well hang a sign out saying "run down area"
[quote][p][bold]the beaver[/bold] wrote: 12 staff at Blackburn with Darwen on £100,000 plus articles like this do not wash with the public. The council borrowed £17 million to fix the roads over a year ago use that they must still have most of it, unless it was used for new carpets in the town hall it certainly has not been used on the roads.[/p][/quote]I am guessing that money borrowed for roads has to be used on...........roads. Look a mess and might as well hang a sign out saying "run down area" CapitaBackHander
  • Score: 12

8:45pm Mon 11 Aug 14

child44 says...

If the police and courts dealt with the scum properly, there wouldn't be any need for these things that restrict normal people going about their business.
"Yeah. come round the back, I'll let you in... oh, wait a minute, I've to walk to the end of the street to undo the security gates."
If the police and courts dealt with the scum properly, there wouldn't be any need for these things that restrict normal people going about their business. "Yeah. come round the back, I'll let you in... oh, wait a minute, I've to walk to the end of the street to undo the security gates." child44
  • Score: 12

10:52pm Mon 11 Aug 14

the beaver says...

They could get rid of 75% of crime but sadly it creates far to many jobs. The easiest and by far the cheapest would be to flood the streets with a bad batch of heroin. Have you ever noticed when suddenly there is a few deaths from drugs in an area they can trace it right back and get it off the streets within hours? when in reality it should be left to to work its magic.
They could get rid of 75% of crime but sadly it creates far to many jobs. The easiest and by far the cheapest would be to flood the streets with a bad batch of heroin. Have you ever noticed when suddenly there is a few deaths from drugs in an area they can trace it right back and get it off the streets within hours? when in reality it should be left to to work its magic. the beaver
  • Score: 11

7:35am Tue 12 Aug 14

zabby says...

Waste of money ,been putting gates up around duke bar for years the residents fly tip their own back streets,you need to change the mindset of the scruffy dossers gates won't do it,you could put these people in Downing Street after 6months it would look like Brennan's street
Waste of money ,been putting gates up around duke bar for years the residents fly tip their own back streets,you need to change the mindset of the scruffy dossers gates won't do it,you could put these people in Downing Street after 6months it would look like Brennan's street zabby
  • Score: 7

8:47am Tue 12 Aug 14

useyourhead says...

What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by.
-
They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.
What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by. - They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access. useyourhead
  • Score: 7

10:41am Tue 12 Aug 14

woolywords says...

useyourhead wrote:
What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by.
-
They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.
Great idea but..
The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free.
[quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by. - They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.[/p][/quote]Great idea but.. The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free. woolywords
  • Score: 3

10:49am Tue 12 Aug 14

woolywords says...

Have had a look at a few of these alley gates and think that someone is on a nice little earner here, making these things at £2000 a pop.
It's a four day week job of cutting, welding and painting.
Where do I apply, to tender for the work?
Have had a look at a few of these alley gates and think that someone is on a nice little earner here, making these things at £2000 a pop. It's a four day week job of cutting, welding and painting. Where do I apply, to tender for the work? woolywords
  • Score: 4

11:14am Tue 12 Aug 14

useyourhead says...

woolywords wrote:
useyourhead wrote:
What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by.
-
They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.
Great idea but..
The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free.
yes but my system would see the other residents knowing they were going to be liable for a proportion of the wayward landlords fee dodging, they would soon either confront them or take photo evidence to stop it, wouldn't you?
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by. - They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.[/p][/quote]Great idea but.. The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free.[/p][/quote]yes but my system would see the other residents knowing they were going to be liable for a proportion of the wayward landlords fee dodging, they would soon either confront them or take photo evidence to stop it, wouldn't you? useyourhead
  • Score: 4

11:29am Tue 12 Aug 14

zabby says...

woolywords wrote:
useyourhead wrote:
What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by.
-
They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.
Great idea but..
The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free.
Then surely the landlord must be responsible for what happens at his property ,wether it's he's things or not,especially if the tenants have done a runner who else but the landlord should clean up after his tenants
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by. - They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.[/p][/quote]Great idea but.. The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free.[/p][/quote]Then surely the landlord must be responsible for what happens at his property ,wether it's he's things or not,especially if the tenants have done a runner who else but the landlord should clean up after his tenants zabby
  • Score: 3

11:33am Tue 12 Aug 14

zabby says...

woolywords wrote:
useyourhead wrote:
What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by.
-
They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.
Great idea but..
The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free.
Then surely the landlord must be responsible for what happens at his property ,wether it's he's things or not,especially if the tenants have done a runner who else but the landlord should clean up after his tenants
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: What the council should do is say ok we will gate the alley, at great expense BUT every time a fly tip is cleared from there in future the residents of said street are all jointly liable for the cost and if it isn't paid it will be attached to your council tax bill.. they might start noticing who is doing it then and take them to task for it, as would have happened in days gone by. - They wouldn't be able to deny it was a resident of the street if they are the only ones that have access.[/p][/quote]Great idea but.. The articles tend to come from houses that are rented, where the landlord has thrown them out, in an effort to avoid paying the fee and him knowing that the council will clean up, for free.[/p][/quote]Then surely the landlord must be responsible for what happens at his property ,wether it's he's things or not,especially if the tenants have done a runner who else but the landlord should clean up after his tenants zabby
  • Score: 1

2:20pm Tue 12 Aug 14

woolywords says...

@ zabby and useyourhead,
The landlord isn't going to soil his hands, by doing the job himself.
He's going to give two of his unemployed tenants, a few quid each.
He'll say, put this XXXXX in the back alley, I'll pick it up later.
Then, allow the council to do the deed of disposal.
He gives a tenner to the two workers, saves £15 on £35 disposal charges.
Am not a landlord!
I don't know the disposal charges for XXXXX, am just guessing.
The house is cleared, redecorated by another unemployed painter.
And before you know it, the new tenants are on here, complaining of the state of the back alley.
...
I only look like a cabbage, am not really one.
However, I do know, through friends, how to milk the system.
...
Blackburn, like many an other council, is fighting a losing battle against it's waste disposal policy. Where they allow tenants to dump anything and everything they want, at council sites; yet seek to impose a charge against landlords, whom do the same.
Even that much maligned man, 2 for 5p, can see that this is an wholly unworkable policy, which needs addressing.
Perhaps, if they imposed a flat rate charge of, say £5 per load, they might recoup that tax that the Gov't imposes upon them, for dumping in landfill sites. After all, it all has to be paid for, eventually.
...
Please read my next post..on this vein..
@ zabby and useyourhead, The landlord isn't going to soil his hands, by doing the job himself. He's going to give two of his unemployed tenants, a few quid each. He'll say, put this XXXXX in the back alley, I'll pick it up later. Then, allow the council to do the deed of disposal. He gives a tenner to the two workers, saves £15 on £35 disposal charges. Am not a landlord! I don't know the disposal charges for XXXXX, am just guessing. The house is cleared, redecorated by another unemployed painter. And before you know it, the new tenants are on here, complaining of the state of the back alley. ... I only look like a cabbage, am not really one. However, I do know, through friends, how to milk the system. ... Blackburn, like many an other council, is fighting a losing battle against it's waste disposal policy. Where they allow tenants to dump anything and everything they want, at council sites; yet seek to impose a charge against landlords, whom do the same. Even that much maligned man, 2 for 5p, can see that this is an wholly unworkable policy, which needs addressing. Perhaps, if they imposed a flat rate charge of, say £5 per load, they might recoup that tax that the Gov't imposes upon them, for dumping in landfill sites. After all, it all has to be paid for, eventually. ... Please read my next post..on this vein.. woolywords
  • Score: 2

4:03pm Tue 12 Aug 14

woolywords says...

Years ago, I was in a chatroom and heard of something really odd..
It was where people were coming together, in little groups, to give stuff away, for free.
The basic premise is; I don't want nor need it, do you?
At first it was bed frames, no mattresses.
Then bedroom furniture, growing to even more outrageous things, like mobile homes, cars and speedboats.
Obviously, it went nuts, so they imposed rules..no gifts of kids, Grandparents (although a few were gifted before that) and nothing that is illegal!
After a while, it settled down, to more normal sorts of gifting.
'Have a 'fridge, moving house, free to collect.'
...
As someone, a bit 'net savvy, I was asked to help set this up in the UK.
So now you have a little, but thriving community of people, here in this area; all giving away things, for nothing.
It's name is Freecycle.
And you can find it easily on a search, so I'm not posting a link.
...
You can post a thing that you want rid of..
Or, a 'want' that you have, for free.
As long as you are prepared to go and get whatever it is, wherever...
It's yours. As simple as that..
It's not first come, first served but the offerer decides..
Usually by ignoring sob stories of how little Timmy can't sleep without Pooh bear.
(I only mention that because I'm restoring a Pooh, for Freecycle posting, later this month..)
I used to beg for old PC's, not here in Blackburn; to recycle them into working ones, for play groups. (HSE spoiled that one, by insisting that stuff was sourced, tested and accredited..BoooH!)
My daughters husbands brother, (complex link if ever there was one)
used to run an autoclave for bedding, at a local council run DofSS house and he agreed to sterilise anything, on night shifts.
Another school friend that I had, agreed to electrically test any object that needed it, for free!
We had a right thing going here..
It's still going strong, even after I moved out of there..
I'm no longer associated with Deron Beal, it's founder, nor the Blackburn site but..
For reading thus far, I'll gift you this..
freecycle.org/search

You type in where you live and I promise you;
I wrote that locator thing, so well, it'll find you and your local group.
...
Freecycle is a not for profit organisation, that saves anything from landfill, that another can usefully utilised.
Before you dump stuffs, consider Freecycle, please.
Where your junk is, another ones, need.
...
An advert script, that got aired on US TV,
then banned!

As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes..
Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free.
Lordy Lordy, it don't ****, anywhere near my ex-wife, while doing the pots....


"Mommy, please come home...
he lost the channel changer."
Voiceover..
'Freecycle, for things, that make a difference in your life..'
It got more interest from being banned, than when it ran on late-night TV.
But such is life..
...
I used to write, in really emotive terms, which you are spared from..
If it's still working. Give it a bash, you never know,
your junk, maybe someone's treasure.
...
And if your child wants, a sanitised, 4 foot bear, watch that space..
Have told both my 30+ daughters, 'it's for local people..'
Totally ignoring their, 'but it's so cuddly, Dad.'
Years ago, I was in a chatroom and heard of something really odd.. It was where people were coming together, in little groups, to give stuff away, for free. The basic premise is; I don't want nor need it, do you? At first it was bed frames, no mattresses. Then bedroom furniture, growing to even more outrageous things, like mobile homes, cars and speedboats. Obviously, it went nuts, so they imposed rules..no gifts of kids, Grandparents (although a few were gifted before that) and nothing that is illegal! After a while, it settled down, to more normal sorts of gifting. 'Have a 'fridge, moving house, free to collect.' ... As someone, a bit 'net savvy, I was asked to help set this up in the UK. So now you have a little, but thriving community of people, here in this area; all giving away things, for nothing. It's name is Freecycle. And you can find it easily on a search, so I'm not posting a link. ... You can post a thing that you want rid of.. Or, a 'want' that you have, for free. As long as you are prepared to go and get whatever it is, wherever... It's yours. As simple as that.. It's not first come, first served but the offerer decides.. Usually by ignoring sob stories of how little Timmy can't sleep without Pooh bear. (I only mention that because I'm restoring a Pooh, for Freecycle posting, later this month..) I used to beg for old PC's, not here in Blackburn; to recycle them into working ones, for play groups. (HSE spoiled that one, by insisting that stuff was sourced, tested and accredited..BoooH!) My daughters husbands brother, (complex link if ever there was one) used to run an autoclave for bedding, at a local council run DofSS house and he agreed to sterilise anything, on night shifts. Another school friend that I had, agreed to electrically test any object that needed it, for free! We had a right thing going here.. It's still going strong, even after I moved out of there.. I'm no longer associated with Deron Beal, it's founder, nor the Blackburn site but.. For reading thus far, I'll gift you this.. freecycle.org/search You type in where you live and I promise you; I wrote that locator thing, so well, it'll find you and your local group. ... Freecycle is a not for profit organisation, that saves anything from landfill, that another can usefully utilised. Before you dump stuffs, consider Freecycle, please. Where your junk is, another ones, need. ... An advert script, that got aired on US TV, then banned! As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes.. Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free. Lordy Lordy, it don't ****, anywhere near my ex-wife, while doing the pots.... "Mommy, please come home... he lost the channel changer." Voiceover.. 'Freecycle, for things, that make a difference in your life..' It got more interest from being banned, than when it ran on late-night TV. But such is life.. ... I used to write, in really emotive terms, which you are spared from.. If it's still working. Give it a bash, you never know, your junk, maybe someone's treasure. ... And if your child wants, a sanitised, 4 foot bear, watch that space.. Have told both my 30+ daughters, 'it's for local people..' Totally ignoring their, 'but it's so cuddly, Dad.' woolywords
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Tue 12 Aug 14

woolywords says...

Whom edited that?
It reads..

As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes..
Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free.
Lordy Lordy, it don't moan, (
Whom edited that? It reads.. As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes.. Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free. Lordy Lordy, it don't moan, ( woolywords
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Tue 12 Aug 14

woolywords says...

more chopped editing..
...
am I, responsible for my words, or you?
I have already agreed to that caveat..
Yet you deign to place yourself, over me, in what I write?
Get a grip of your sac and behave.
...
You will want my support, when your job is transferred to Wales.
Leaving this town, utterly bereft of 'local' reporters.
...
Note this news..
LT is to be transferred to South Wales in the near future,
leaving Blackburn without it's local reporters.
Some will take redundancy, like Bill Jacobs, but many, whom have an inside edge of the muslim things, will be cast adrift..
I'll miss her.. Ms ul-Othman, as she tried to write, nice things..
Given her constraints, about criticising Islam.
None were lost on me.
...
Back in the day; when newspapers wanted news,
from far off parts, they were called, stringers.
Is that what Tyrone, the Burnley ****, is reduced to now?
A mere stringer?
With his insight, of all things, that still pervade here and beyond?
...
Am I, to suppose that, LT is going to garner things ****, from Brian Kirkbride, at Cumberland and Westmoreland Herald, for a truth?
Given his closeness to Appleby Fair?
Where he, as a child, was noted as, a mummies boy, and never mixed with the rougher types of life, ever?
...
I tell you this, and my Mum is alive, to back me up..
His Father, told him to play with us, to toughen him up.
And you want him, as your source?
A man that cried off, at Cub Scouts..
...
We are doomed, all of us, doomed..
written, in my best Scottish accent.
more chopped editing.. ... am I, responsible for my words, or you? I have already agreed to that caveat.. Yet you deign to place yourself, over me, in what I write? Get a grip of your sac and behave. ... You will want my support, when your job is transferred to Wales. Leaving this town, utterly bereft of 'local' reporters. ... Note this news.. LT is to be transferred to South Wales in the near future, leaving Blackburn without it's local reporters. Some will take redundancy, like Bill Jacobs, but many, whom have an inside edge of the muslim things, will be cast adrift.. I'll miss her.. Ms ul-Othman, as she tried to write, nice things.. Given her constraints, about criticising Islam. None were lost on me. ... Back in the day; when newspapers wanted news, from far off parts, they were called, stringers. Is that what Tyrone, the Burnley ****, is reduced to now? A mere stringer? With his insight, of all things, that still pervade here and beyond? ... Am I, to suppose that, LT is going to garner things ****, from Brian Kirkbride, at Cumberland and Westmoreland Herald, for a truth? Given his closeness to Appleby Fair? Where he, as a child, was noted as, a mummies boy, and never mixed with the rougher types of life, ever? ... I tell you this, and my Mum is alive, to back me up.. His Father, told him to play with us, to toughen him up. And you want him, as your source? A man that cried off, at Cub Scouts.. ... We are doomed, all of us, doomed.. written, in my best Scottish accent. woolywords
  • Score: 0

5:01pm Tue 12 Aug 14

useyourhead says...

woolywords wrote:
Years ago, I was in a chatroom and heard of something really odd..
It was where people were coming together, in little groups, to give stuff away, for free.
The basic premise is; I don't want nor need it, do you?
At first it was bed frames, no mattresses.
Then bedroom furniture, growing to even more outrageous things, like mobile homes, cars and speedboats.
Obviously, it went nuts, so they imposed rules..no gifts of kids, Grandparents (although a few were gifted before that) and nothing that is illegal!
After a while, it settled down, to more normal sorts of gifting.
'Have a 'fridge, moving house, free to collect.'
...
As someone, a bit 'net savvy, I was asked to help set this up in the UK.
So now you have a little, but thriving community of people, here in this area; all giving away things, for nothing.
It's name is Freecycle.
And you can find it easily on a search, so I'm not posting a link.
...
You can post a thing that you want rid of..
Or, a 'want' that you have, for free.
As long as you are prepared to go and get whatever it is, wherever...
It's yours. As simple as that..
It's not first come, first served but the offerer decides..
Usually by ignoring sob stories of how little Timmy can't sleep without Pooh bear.
(I only mention that because I'm restoring a Pooh, for Freecycle posting, later this month..)
I used to beg for old PC's, not here in Blackburn; to recycle them into working ones, for play groups. (HSE spoiled that one, by insisting that stuff was sourced, tested and accredited..BoooH!)
My daughters husbands brother, (complex link if ever there was one)
used to run an autoclave for bedding, at a local council run DofSS house and he agreed to sterilise anything, on night shifts.
Another school friend that I had, agreed to electrically test any object that needed it, for free!
We had a right thing going here..
It's still going strong, even after I moved out of there..
I'm no longer associated with Deron Beal, it's founder, nor the Blackburn site but..
For reading thus far, I'll gift you this..
freecycle.org/search


You type in where you live and I promise you;
I wrote that locator thing, so well, it'll find you and your local group.
...
Freecycle is a not for profit organisation, that saves anything from landfill, that another can usefully utilised.
Before you dump stuffs, consider Freecycle, please.
Where your junk is, another ones, need.
...
An advert script, that got aired on US TV,
then banned!

As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes..
Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free.
Lordy Lordy, it don't ****, anywhere near my ex-wife, while doing the pots....


"Mommy, please come home...
he lost the channel changer."
Voiceover..
'Freecycle, for things, that make a difference in your life..'
It got more interest from being banned, than when it ran on late-night TV.
But such is life..
...
I used to write, in really emotive terms, which you are spared from..
If it's still working. Give it a bash, you never know,
your junk, maybe someone's treasure.
...
And if your child wants, a sanitised, 4 foot bear, watch that space..
Have told both my 30+ daughters, 'it's for local people..'
Totally ignoring their, 'but it's so cuddly, Dad.'
what are you banging on about now, i sorta get the point but the kind of stuff left out by these properties isn't fit for reuse, if it was they would have sold it, and also, i know the freecycle site and it was a very good thing once, however now its full of chavs who ask for everything and then make a nice living churning it out on ebay or at car boot sales, most ordinary genuine needy folk don't get a look in any more sadly.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Years ago, I was in a chatroom and heard of something really odd.. It was where people were coming together, in little groups, to give stuff away, for free. The basic premise is; I don't want nor need it, do you? At first it was bed frames, no mattresses. Then bedroom furniture, growing to even more outrageous things, like mobile homes, cars and speedboats. Obviously, it went nuts, so they imposed rules..no gifts of kids, Grandparents (although a few were gifted before that) and nothing that is illegal! After a while, it settled down, to more normal sorts of gifting. 'Have a 'fridge, moving house, free to collect.' ... As someone, a bit 'net savvy, I was asked to help set this up in the UK. So now you have a little, but thriving community of people, here in this area; all giving away things, for nothing. It's name is Freecycle. And you can find it easily on a search, so I'm not posting a link. ... You can post a thing that you want rid of.. Or, a 'want' that you have, for free. As long as you are prepared to go and get whatever it is, wherever... It's yours. As simple as that.. It's not first come, first served but the offerer decides.. Usually by ignoring sob stories of how little Timmy can't sleep without Pooh bear. (I only mention that because I'm restoring a Pooh, for Freecycle posting, later this month..) I used to beg for old PC's, not here in Blackburn; to recycle them into working ones, for play groups. (HSE spoiled that one, by insisting that stuff was sourced, tested and accredited..BoooH!) My daughters husbands brother, (complex link if ever there was one) used to run an autoclave for bedding, at a local council run DofSS house and he agreed to sterilise anything, on night shifts. Another school friend that I had, agreed to electrically test any object that needed it, for free! We had a right thing going here.. It's still going strong, even after I moved out of there.. I'm no longer associated with Deron Beal, it's founder, nor the Blackburn site but.. For reading thus far, I'll gift you this.. freecycle.org/search You type in where you live and I promise you; I wrote that locator thing, so well, it'll find you and your local group. ... Freecycle is a not for profit organisation, that saves anything from landfill, that another can usefully utilised. Before you dump stuffs, consider Freecycle, please. Where your junk is, another ones, need. ... An advert script, that got aired on US TV, then banned! As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes.. Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free. Lordy Lordy, it don't ****, anywhere near my ex-wife, while doing the pots.... "Mommy, please come home... he lost the channel changer." Voiceover.. 'Freecycle, for things, that make a difference in your life..' It got more interest from being banned, than when it ran on late-night TV. But such is life.. ... I used to write, in really emotive terms, which you are spared from.. If it's still working. Give it a bash, you never know, your junk, maybe someone's treasure. ... And if your child wants, a sanitised, 4 foot bear, watch that space.. Have told both my 30+ daughters, 'it's for local people..' Totally ignoring their, 'but it's so cuddly, Dad.'[/p][/quote]what are you banging on about now, i sorta get the point but the kind of stuff left out by these properties isn't fit for reuse, if it was they would have sold it, and also, i know the freecycle site and it was a very good thing once, however now its full of chavs who ask for everything and then make a nice living churning it out on ebay or at car boot sales, most ordinary genuine needy folk don't get a look in any more sadly. useyourhead
  • Score: 2

1:06am Wed 13 Aug 14

Papadoc The Major MC says...

What a waste of rate payers money. The council have put gates up in the alley adjoining Hollins Grove Street & Clarence Street. It stops vandalising but the mess in the alley like a rubbish tip, the alley is riddled with rats that is FACT. The residents & Rubbish collectors are to blame for this tip.
What a waste of rate payers money. The council have put gates up in the alley adjoining Hollins Grove Street & Clarence Street. It stops vandalising but the mess in the alley like a rubbish tip, the alley is riddled with rats that is FACT. The residents & Rubbish collectors are to blame for this tip. Papadoc The Major MC
  • Score: 1

8:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

child44 says...

woolywords wrote:
Years ago, I was in a chatroom and heard of something really odd..
It was where people were coming together, in little groups, to give stuff away, for free.
The basic premise is; I don't want nor need it, do you?
At first it was bed frames, no mattresses.
Then bedroom furniture, growing to even more outrageous things, like mobile homes, cars and speedboats.
Obviously, it went nuts, so they imposed rules..no gifts of kids, Grandparents (although a few were gifted before that) and nothing that is illegal!
After a while, it settled down, to more normal sorts of gifting.
'Have a 'fridge, moving house, free to collect.'
...
As someone, a bit 'net savvy, I was asked to help set this up in the UK.
So now you have a little, but thriving community of people, here in this area; all giving away things, for nothing.
It's name is Freecycle.
And you can find it easily on a search, so I'm not posting a link.
...
You can post a thing that you want rid of..
Or, a 'want' that you have, for free.
As long as you are prepared to go and get whatever it is, wherever...
It's yours. As simple as that..
It's not first come, first served but the offerer decides..
Usually by ignoring sob stories of how little Timmy can't sleep without Pooh bear.
(I only mention that because I'm restoring a Pooh, for Freecycle posting, later this month..)
I used to beg for old PC's, not here in Blackburn; to recycle them into working ones, for play groups. (HSE spoiled that one, by insisting that stuff was sourced, tested and accredited..BoooH!)
My daughters husbands brother, (complex link if ever there was one)
used to run an autoclave for bedding, at a local council run DofSS house and he agreed to sterilise anything, on night shifts.
Another school friend that I had, agreed to electrically test any object that needed it, for free!
We had a right thing going here..
It's still going strong, even after I moved out of there..
I'm no longer associated with Deron Beal, it's founder, nor the Blackburn site but..
For reading thus far, I'll gift you this..
freecycle.org/search


You type in where you live and I promise you;
I wrote that locator thing, so well, it'll find you and your local group.
...
Freecycle is a not for profit organisation, that saves anything from landfill, that another can usefully utilised.
Before you dump stuffs, consider Freecycle, please.
Where your junk is, another ones, need.
...
An advert script, that got aired on US TV,
then banned!

As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes..
Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free.
Lordy Lordy, it don't ****, anywhere near my ex-wife, while doing the pots....


"Mommy, please come home...
he lost the channel changer."
Voiceover..
'Freecycle, for things, that make a difference in your life..'
It got more interest from being banned, than when it ran on late-night TV.
But such is life..
...
I used to write, in really emotive terms, which you are spared from..
If it's still working. Give it a bash, you never know,
your junk, maybe someone's treasure.
...
And if your child wants, a sanitised, 4 foot bear, watch that space..
Have told both my 30+ daughters, 'it's for local people..'
Totally ignoring their, 'but it's so cuddly, Dad.'
I bet you're a great night out.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Years ago, I was in a chatroom and heard of something really odd.. It was where people were coming together, in little groups, to give stuff away, for free. The basic premise is; I don't want nor need it, do you? At first it was bed frames, no mattresses. Then bedroom furniture, growing to even more outrageous things, like mobile homes, cars and speedboats. Obviously, it went nuts, so they imposed rules..no gifts of kids, Grandparents (although a few were gifted before that) and nothing that is illegal! After a while, it settled down, to more normal sorts of gifting. 'Have a 'fridge, moving house, free to collect.' ... As someone, a bit 'net savvy, I was asked to help set this up in the UK. So now you have a little, but thriving community of people, here in this area; all giving away things, for nothing. It's name is Freecycle. And you can find it easily on a search, so I'm not posting a link. ... You can post a thing that you want rid of.. Or, a 'want' that you have, for free. As long as you are prepared to go and get whatever it is, wherever... It's yours. As simple as that.. It's not first come, first served but the offerer decides.. Usually by ignoring sob stories of how little Timmy can't sleep without Pooh bear. (I only mention that because I'm restoring a Pooh, for Freecycle posting, later this month..) I used to beg for old PC's, not here in Blackburn; to recycle them into working ones, for play groups. (HSE spoiled that one, by insisting that stuff was sourced, tested and accredited..BoooH!) My daughters husbands brother, (complex link if ever there was one) used to run an autoclave for bedding, at a local council run DofSS house and he agreed to sterilise anything, on night shifts. Another school friend that I had, agreed to electrically test any object that needed it, for free! We had a right thing going here.. It's still going strong, even after I moved out of there.. I'm no longer associated with Deron Beal, it's founder, nor the Blackburn site but.. For reading thus far, I'll gift you this.. freecycle.org/search You type in where you live and I promise you; I wrote that locator thing, so well, it'll find you and your local group. ... Freecycle is a not for profit organisation, that saves anything from landfill, that another can usefully utilised. Before you dump stuffs, consider Freecycle, please. Where your junk is, another ones, need. ... An advert script, that got aired on US TV, then banned! As a man, I often go to Freecycle, for a new sink, especially when my old one, is full of dishes.. Then I got me, a Freecycle dishwasher, from Freecycle, for free. Lordy Lordy, it don't ****, anywhere near my ex-wife, while doing the pots.... "Mommy, please come home... he lost the channel changer." Voiceover.. 'Freecycle, for things, that make a difference in your life..' It got more interest from being banned, than when it ran on late-night TV. But such is life.. ... I used to write, in really emotive terms, which you are spared from.. If it's still working. Give it a bash, you never know, your junk, maybe someone's treasure. ... And if your child wants, a sanitised, 4 foot bear, watch that space.. Have told both my 30+ daughters, 'it's for local people..' Totally ignoring their, 'but it's so cuddly, Dad.'[/p][/quote]I bet you're a great night out. child44
  • Score: 1

10:54pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Mothernature says...

useyourhead says... what are you banging on about now, i sorta get the point but the kind of stuff left out by these properties isn't fit for reuse, if it was they would have sold it, and also, i know the freecycle site and it was a very good thing once, however now its full of chavs who ask for everything and then make a nice living churning it out on ebay or at car boot sales, most ordinary genuine needy folk don't get a look in any more sadly.

Completely disagree with you there. Freecycle is a great site and they do make a difference. If they are badly moderated, then yes, you will get the greedy or deceitful folks looking to make money. A good moderator will spot those types of folk.
useyourhead says... what are you banging on about now, i sorta get the point but the kind of stuff left out by these properties isn't fit for reuse, if it was they would have sold it, and also, i know the freecycle site and it was a very good thing once, however now its full of chavs who ask for everything and then make a nice living churning it out on ebay or at car boot sales, most ordinary genuine needy folk don't get a look in any more sadly. Completely disagree with you there. Freecycle is a great site and they do make a difference. If they are badly moderated, then yes, you will get the greedy or deceitful folks looking to make money. A good moderator will spot those types of folk. Mothernature
  • Score: 1

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