Blackburn halal food firm seals Euro deal

Blackburn halal food firm seals Euro deal

Blackburn halal food firm seals Euro deal

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Local government reporter

EXPANDING Blackburn halal food manufacturer KQF has agreed a series of new deals providing a strong foothold in Europe.

It has just sealed an agreement to sell it products through one of France’s largest hypermarket chains Leclerc, which operates more than 500 stores in France and a further 114 elsewhere in Europe.

This follows similar deals with Alphaprim, which has 11 stores in the Paris suburbs, and distFresh, an independent halal distributor serving 20 key outlets in and around the French capital.

This follows what KQF managing director Faruk Vali described as an ‘exceptional sales month’ in June and a recruitment drive that has seen 12 new staff join the George Street West firm.

The main export to Europe is the Khan Exotique range of halal burgers, kebabs and sausages, all made to authentic recipes from India and South Africa.

Mr Vali said: “Leclerc is a very important player in the market.It’s also an excellent strategic partner because it has a high profile and is expanding fast.

“The listing of our products with such a significant retailer gives us an excellent means of introducing our halal certified convenience foods to a new group of European customers.

“Our research suggests that the European market for halal foods is buoyant. It’s currently worth around $30 billion and the figure is rising by approximately 15 per cent a year.

“France has the largest Muslim population in Europe — a little under five million — so we developed a new product range, Khan Exotique, as our way of reaching out to that market. European consumers seem to be responding very well.

“Across Europe, Muslims are increasingly looking for high quality halal foods that are convenient but also of a reliable provenance.

“This is particularly true of a new generation of young, well informed consumers who — in the wake of the horse meat scandal and similar problems — want more proof of manufacturers’ halal claims.”

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3:30pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Malthus says...

Halal slaughter to me is a practice that would probably be illegal if it was not done in the name of a deity.
Halal slaughter to me is a practice that would probably be illegal if it was not done in the name of a deity. Malthus
  • Score: -18

4:49pm Thu 3 Jul 14

ghost of sceptic says...

Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now. ghost of sceptic
  • Score: -19

5:30pm Thu 3 Jul 14

abetterblackburn says...

The so called human race should be fully ashamed of itself. The ability to inflicted pain for religious reasons is nothing other than evil. May those who do it come back and have done to them what they have done to defenceless animals. Little wonder the world is in such a mess.

Religions are the devils work.
What more proof do you need!
The so called human race should be fully ashamed of itself. The ability to inflicted pain for religious reasons is nothing other than evil. May those who do it come back and have done to them what they have done to defenceless animals. Little wonder the world is in such a mess. Religions are the devils work. What more proof do you need! abetterblackburn
  • Score: -18

9:23pm Thu 3 Jul 14

POW WOW says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
Aye and leave the poor animals alone too !!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]Aye and leave the poor animals alone too !!!!!!!!!! POW WOW
  • Score: -13

10:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

tajmahalovertheoldmarket says...

Think on - you're local "Indian" takeaway probably serves halal meat. Somebody should launch a non-halal curry house. Answers on a postcard please.
Think on - you're local "Indian" takeaway probably serves halal meat. Somebody should launch a non-halal curry house. Answers on a postcard please. tajmahalovertheoldmarket
  • Score: -5

10:49pm Thu 3 Jul 14

doggydog says...

tajmahalovertheoldma
rket
wrote:
Think on - you're local "Indian" takeaway probably serves halal meat. Somebody should launch a non-halal curry house. Answers on a postcard please.
then i would start to use it !
[quote][p][bold]tajmahalovertheoldma rket[/bold] wrote: Think on - you're local "Indian" takeaway probably serves halal meat. Somebody should launch a non-halal curry house. Answers on a postcard please.[/p][/quote]then i would start to use it ! doggydog
  • Score: 8

11:08pm Thu 3 Jul 14

adamdesk says...

tajmahalovertheoldma
rket
wrote:
Think on - you're local "Indian" takeaway probably serves halal meat. Somebody should launch a non-halal curry house. Answers on a postcard please.
they all not halal man some just makes it up
[quote][p][bold]tajmahalovertheoldma rket[/bold] wrote: Think on - you're local "Indian" takeaway probably serves halal meat. Somebody should launch a non-halal curry house. Answers on a postcard please.[/p][/quote]they all not halal man some just makes it up adamdesk
  • Score: -3

11:46pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Steven11 says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
Excellent post , I could not have posted this comment any better my self . Totally agree with you. !
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]Excellent post , I could not have posted this comment any better my self . Totally agree with you. ! Steven11
  • Score: -9

2:55am Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up salvadore
  • Score: 46

9:56am Fri 4 Jul 14

The Seagull has landed says...

salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps?
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps? The Seagull has landed
  • Score: -4

10:12am Fri 4 Jul 14

caballo says...

salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
I don't really know where to begin addressing the factual inaccuracies in your post as there are so many, you seem to have difficulty in seperating fact, propoganda and opinion.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]I don't really know where to begin addressing the factual inaccuracies in your post as there are so many, you seem to have difficulty in seperating fact, propoganda and opinion. caballo
  • Score: -18

11:25am Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps?
Cry about what? U and your ugly mut I don't don't do it then either, I just laugh
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps?[/p][/quote]Cry about what? U and your ugly mut I don't don't do it then either, I just laugh salvadore
  • Score: -10

11:27am Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

caballo wrote:
salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
I don't really know where to begin addressing the factual inaccuracies in your post as there are so many, you seem to have difficulty in seperating fact, propoganda and opinion.
No propaganda based on scientific research go check it out
[quote][p][bold]caballo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]I don't really know where to begin addressing the factual inaccuracies in your post as there are so many, you seem to have difficulty in seperating fact, propoganda and opinion.[/p][/quote]No propaganda based on scientific research go check it out salvadore
  • Score: 9

12:57pm Fri 4 Jul 14

The Seagull has landed says...

salvadore wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps?
Cry about what? U and your ugly mut I don't don't do it then either, I just laugh
Erm........what?
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps?[/p][/quote]Cry about what? U and your ugly mut I don't don't do it then either, I just laugh[/p][/quote]Erm........what? The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Malthus says...

salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis or variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, as it is also known is not transmitted via blood. This disease is caused by consuming beef products contaminated with central nervous system tissue, such as brain and spinal cord, from cattle infected with mad cow disease protein prion. It is worth noting that no amount of washing can destroy the prion responsible. Please, if you are going to make a scientific point to support your argument at least make a valid one; particularly if you are going to make comments such as "So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment."
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis or variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, as it is also known is not transmitted via blood. This disease is caused by consuming beef products contaminated with central nervous system tissue, such as brain and spinal cord, from cattle infected with mad cow disease protein prion. It is worth noting that no amount of washing can destroy the prion responsible. Please, if you are going to make a scientific point to support your argument at least make a valid one; particularly if you are going to make comments such as "So all you so calked[sic] animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment." Malthus
  • Score: 1

1:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Malthus says...

salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis or variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, as it is also known is not transmitted via blood. This disease is caused by consuming beef products contaminated with central nervous system tissue, such as brain and spinal cord, from cattle infected with mad cow disease protein prion. It is worth noting that no amount of washing can destroy the prion responsible. Please, if you are going to make a scientific point to support your argument at least make a valid one; particularly if you are going to make comments such as "So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment."
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis or variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, as it is also known is not transmitted via blood. This disease is caused by consuming beef products contaminated with central nervous system tissue, such as brain and spinal cord, from cattle infected with mad cow disease protein prion. It is worth noting that no amount of washing can destroy the prion responsible. Please, if you are going to make a scientific point to support your argument at least make a valid one; particularly if you are going to make comments such as "So all you so calked[sic] animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment." Malthus
  • Score: 1

2:04pm Fri 4 Jul 14

drunken donut says...

Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices. drunken donut
  • Score: 1

2:31pm Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
You f..king Neanderthal
[quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]You f..king Neanderthal salvadore
  • Score: -6

2:46pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Honestlad says...

salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Nothing you have said is based on scientific fact. In the uk, all animals other than those killed for absurd religious reasons are required to be stunned with a bolt gun which makes knocks them unconscious immediately and therefore senseless (in the state humans are operated on). This is done before the chosen method of all slaughters and so cause no pain to the animal other than the initial shock which last a few milli-seconds if that. Halal slaughter is torturous and makes me feel sick. Slitting a cows throat then immediately slinging it up by its legs sometimes causing dislocation, and then left hanging to drain blood while the poor animal is still conscious and struggling to free themselves. The animal can be seen moving for minutes after being hung to drain. How can this be legal?
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Nothing you have said is based on scientific fact. In the uk, all animals other than those killed for absurd religious reasons are required to be stunned with a bolt gun which makes knocks them unconscious immediately and therefore senseless (in the state humans are operated on). This is done before the chosen method of all slaughters and so cause no pain to the animal other than the initial shock which last a few milli-seconds if that. Halal slaughter is torturous and makes me feel sick. Slitting a cows throat then immediately slinging it up by its legs sometimes causing dislocation, and then left hanging to drain blood while the poor animal is still conscious and struggling to free themselves. The animal can be seen moving for minutes after being hung to drain. How can this be legal? Honestlad
  • Score: 5

3:31pm Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

Honestlad wrote:
salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Nothing you have said is based on scientific fact. In the uk, all animals other than those killed for absurd religious reasons are required to be stunned with a bolt gun which makes knocks them unconscious immediately and therefore senseless (in the state humans are operated on). This is done before the chosen method of all slaughters and so cause no pain to the animal other than the initial shock which last a few milli-seconds if that. Halal slaughter is torturous and makes me feel sick. Slitting a cows throat then immediately slinging it up by its legs sometimes causing dislocation, and then left hanging to drain blood while the poor animal is still conscious and struggling to free themselves. The animal can be seen moving for minutes after being hung to drain. How can this be legal?
Totally disagree if halal slaughter is done by professionally trained people then it's the quickest way to kill the animal. As for stunning a lot of poultry is dead through the stunning process why because it's fries their brains. If I did that to you then it would be called torture. The same happens to other animals where even more volts are used to stun larger animals. I think you should check some facts, draining the blood cleans the animal from a lot of diseases too go check it.
[quote][p][bold]Honestlad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Nothing you have said is based on scientific fact. In the uk, all animals other than those killed for absurd religious reasons are required to be stunned with a bolt gun which makes knocks them unconscious immediately and therefore senseless (in the state humans are operated on). This is done before the chosen method of all slaughters and so cause no pain to the animal other than the initial shock which last a few milli-seconds if that. Halal slaughter is torturous and makes me feel sick. Slitting a cows throat then immediately slinging it up by its legs sometimes causing dislocation, and then left hanging to drain blood while the poor animal is still conscious and struggling to free themselves. The animal can be seen moving for minutes after being hung to drain. How can this be legal?[/p][/quote]Totally disagree if halal slaughter is done by professionally trained people then it's the quickest way to kill the animal. As for stunning a lot of poultry is dead through the stunning process why because it's fries their brains. If I did that to you then it would be called torture. The same happens to other animals where even more volts are used to stun larger animals. I think you should check some facts, draining the blood cleans the animal from a lot of diseases too go check it. salvadore
  • Score: -4

4:34pm Fri 4 Jul 14

sen c b l says...

drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
Actually Islam is just over 1400 years old and Judaism approximately 2800 years. However The stoneage was a period dating back half aillion years and many artefacts unearthed are to be found in mainland Britain and Europe. So your comment is invalid and you may find that your ancestors were very much members of this bunch uncivilised cave dwellers. So there you have it.
[quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]Actually Islam is just over 1400 years old and Judaism approximately 2800 years. However The stoneage was a period dating back half aillion years and many artefacts unearthed are to be found in mainland Britain and Europe. So your comment is invalid and you may find that your ancestors were very much members of this bunch uncivilised cave dwellers. So there you have it. sen c b l
  • Score: 5

4:39pm Fri 4 Jul 14

sen c b l says...

Honestlad wrote:
salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Nothing you have said is based on scientific fact. In the uk, all animals other than those killed for absurd religious reasons are required to be stunned with a bolt gun which makes knocks them unconscious immediately and therefore senseless (in the state humans are operated on). This is done before the chosen method of all slaughters and so cause no pain to the animal other than the initial shock which last a few milli-seconds if that. Halal slaughter is torturous and makes me feel sick. Slitting a cows throat then immediately slinging it up by its legs sometimes causing dislocation, and then left hanging to drain blood while the poor animal is still conscious and struggling to free themselves. The animal can be seen moving for minutes after being hung to drain. How can this be legal?
You have never set foot in a abattoir and your comments confirm either that you are simply a fibber or you prefer to sprout crap on LT pages.
[quote][p][bold]Honestlad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Nothing you have said is based on scientific fact. In the uk, all animals other than those killed for absurd religious reasons are required to be stunned with a bolt gun which makes knocks them unconscious immediately and therefore senseless (in the state humans are operated on). This is done before the chosen method of all slaughters and so cause no pain to the animal other than the initial shock which last a few milli-seconds if that. Halal slaughter is torturous and makes me feel sick. Slitting a cows throat then immediately slinging it up by its legs sometimes causing dislocation, and then left hanging to drain blood while the poor animal is still conscious and struggling to free themselves. The animal can be seen moving for minutes after being hung to drain. How can this be legal?[/p][/quote]You have never set foot in a abattoir and your comments confirm either that you are simply a fibber or you prefer to sprout crap on LT pages. sen c b l
  • Score: 8

5:36pm Fri 4 Jul 14

ghost of sceptic says...

salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
You nearly got it right. I am not a islamaphobe but i am a vegitarian. So if someone offered you 2 ways of dying you would rather be fully aware of what is happening to you and bleed to death rather than being shot in the head. All the vets in this country are opposed to killing without stunning and for good reason. However you seem to know better or are probably one of those religious brainwashed fanatics i eluded to in my original post. hurry along we dont need you but syria does.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]You nearly got it right. I am not a islamaphobe but i am a vegitarian. So if someone offered you 2 ways of dying you would rather be fully aware of what is happening to you and bleed to death rather than being shot in the head. All the vets in this country are opposed to killing without stunning and for good reason. However you seem to know better or are probably one of those religious brainwashed fanatics i eluded to in my original post. hurry along we dont need you but syria does. ghost of sceptic
  • Score: -4

5:37pm Fri 4 Jul 14

abetterblackburn says...

Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons.

Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence?

Why are we here?
Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons. Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence? Why are we here? abetterblackburn
  • Score: 0

5:50pm Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
You nearly got it right. I am not a islamaphobe but i am a vegitarian. So if someone offered you 2 ways of dying you would rather be fully aware of what is happening to you and bleed to death rather than being shot in the head. All the vets in this country are opposed to killing without stunning and for good reason. However you seem to know better or are probably one of those religious brainwashed fanatics i eluded to in my original post. hurry along we dont need you but syria does.
Which ever way a living thing is killed its painful I'm sure. Not all vets do think the same, why is it they have a problem with halal/kosher yet nothing is said about how animals are keep such as battery hens etc then shot or gassed or even worse brains smashed. The veterinary authorities views has been completely destroyed by other unbiased scientists. Like in Denmark laws against halal are based on discrimination of minorities and appease the right wing and not on animal welfare.
As for going to Syria I suggest you go, you might see the truth of the murderer assads regime. What a joke you are, u can't argue the point so you call people brainwashed extremist. Wow how clever NOT
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]You nearly got it right. I am not a islamaphobe but i am a vegitarian. So if someone offered you 2 ways of dying you would rather be fully aware of what is happening to you and bleed to death rather than being shot in the head. All the vets in this country are opposed to killing without stunning and for good reason. However you seem to know better or are probably one of those religious brainwashed fanatics i eluded to in my original post. hurry along we dont need you but syria does.[/p][/quote]Which ever way a living thing is killed its painful I'm sure. Not all vets do think the same, why is it they have a problem with halal/kosher yet nothing is said about how animals are keep such as battery hens etc then shot or gassed or even worse brains smashed. The veterinary authorities views has been completely destroyed by other unbiased scientists. Like in Denmark laws against halal are based on discrimination of minorities and appease the right wing and not on animal welfare. As for going to Syria I suggest you go, you might see the truth of the murderer assads regime. What a joke you are, u can't argue the point so you call people brainwashed extremist. Wow how clever NOT salvadore
  • Score: 10

6:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

The Seagull has landed says...

drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.
[quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 0

6:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

abetterblackburn wrote:
Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons.

Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence?

Why are we here?
You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.
[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons. Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence? Why are we here?[/p][/quote]You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands. salvadore
  • Score: 5

6:08pm Fri 4 Jul 14

The Seagull has landed says...

sen c b l wrote:
drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
Actually Islam is just over 1400 years old and Judaism approximately 2800 years. However The stoneage was a period dating back half aillion years and many artefacts unearthed are to be found in mainland Britain and Europe. So your comment is invalid and you may find that your ancestors were very much members of this bunch uncivilised cave dwellers. So there you have it.
Nearly as old as you then Sen.
[quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]Actually Islam is just over 1400 years old and Judaism approximately 2800 years. However The stoneage was a period dating back half aillion years and many artefacts unearthed are to be found in mainland Britain and Europe. So your comment is invalid and you may find that your ancestors were very much members of this bunch uncivilised cave dwellers. So there you have it.[/p][/quote]Nearly as old as you then Sen. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 3

6:13pm Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.
What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam.
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam. salvadore
  • Score: 13

6:25pm Fri 4 Jul 14

drunken donut says...

salvadore wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.
What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam.
What an idiot, I would like to enter into a verbal battle with you but unlike most Muslims I don't attack unarmed people.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam.[/p][/quote]What an idiot, I would like to enter into a verbal battle with you but unlike most Muslims I don't attack unarmed people. drunken donut
  • Score: -6

6:33pm Fri 4 Jul 14

abetterblackburn says...

salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons.

Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence?

Why are we here?
You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.
When I was little my mum and dad told me about Father Christmas. He was really nice and brought me presents once a year. Unfortunately he did have some problems with alcohol though and did eat far too many mince pies. However, it was something to believe in and I got presents as well!

Why did you not answer any of my questions?
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons. Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence? Why are we here?[/p][/quote]You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.[/p][/quote]When I was little my mum and dad told me about Father Christmas. He was really nice and brought me presents once a year. Unfortunately he did have some problems with alcohol though and did eat far too many mince pies. However, it was something to believe in and I got presents as well! Why did you not answer any of my questions? abetterblackburn
  • Score: 0

6:34pm Fri 4 Jul 14

drunken donut says...

drunken donut wrote:
salvadore wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.
What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam.
What an idiot, I would like to enter into a verbal battle with you but unlike most Muslims I don't attack unarmed people.
P.S. There is no such entity as Allah, he is just a figment of your tiny impressionable mind, to call you a half wit would be doing a disservice to half wits.
[quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam.[/p][/quote]What an idiot, I would like to enter into a verbal battle with you but unlike most Muslims I don't attack unarmed people.[/p][/quote]P.S. There is no such entity as Allah, he is just a figment of your tiny impressionable mind, to call you a half wit would be doing a disservice to half wits. drunken donut
  • Score: -7

6:56pm Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

drunken donut wrote:
drunken donut wrote:
salvadore wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.
What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam.
What an idiot, I would like to enter into a verbal battle with you but unlike most Muslims I don't attack unarmed people.
P.S. There is no such entity as Allah, he is just a figment of your tiny impressionable mind, to call you a half wit would be doing a disservice to half wits.
Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.
[quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]You forgot stoneage attitude towards women. Beating them for going out in public whilst having an inch of their left ankle on display. Not very civilised.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, you Neanderthal. Let's get this right Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. This is when other beliefs such as Christianity/Judaism treated them like child bearing meat and nothing more. A daughter born to a Muslim father is a means for him to enter paradise. Men and women should all dress modestly. Beating not allowed in Islam.[/p][/quote]What an idiot, I would like to enter into a verbal battle with you but unlike most Muslims I don't attack unarmed people.[/p][/quote]P.S. There is no such entity as Allah, he is just a figment of your tiny impressionable mind, to call you a half wit would be doing a disservice to half wits.[/p][/quote]Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. salvadore
  • Score: 4

7:41pm Fri 4 Jul 14

abetterblackburn says...

salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife! abetterblackburn
  • Score: -4

8:17pm Fri 4 Jul 14

sen c b l says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
drunken donut wrote:
Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.
Actually Islam is just over 1400 years old and Judaism approximately 2800 years. However The stoneage was a period dating back half aillion years and many artefacts unearthed are to be found in mainland Britain and Europe. So your comment is invalid and you may find that your ancestors were very much members of this bunch uncivilised cave dwellers. So there you have it.
Nearly as old as you then Sen.
Is it you ex 'seagull'?
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: Stone Age religion, Stone Age people, Stone Age practices.[/p][/quote]Actually Islam is just over 1400 years old and Judaism approximately 2800 years. However The stoneage was a period dating back half aillion years and many artefacts unearthed are to be found in mainland Britain and Europe. So your comment is invalid and you may find that your ancestors were very much members of this bunch uncivilised cave dwellers. So there you have it.[/p][/quote]Nearly as old as you then Sen.[/p][/quote]Is it you ex 'seagull'? sen c b l
  • Score: 1

8:48pm Fri 4 Jul 14

salvadore says...

abetterblackburn wrote:
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.
[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife![/p][/quote]You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals. salvadore
  • Score: 5

9:10pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Biscay says...

salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.
An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons:
Forced marriage
Arranged marriage
Honour killings
Female Genital mutilation
A young girl shot in the head for going to school
Women beaten up for being lesbian
Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas
Doesn't seem very equal to me?
How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife![/p][/quote]You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.[/p][/quote]An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons: Forced marriage Arranged marriage Honour killings Female Genital mutilation A young girl shot in the head for going to school Women beaten up for being lesbian Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas Doesn't seem very equal to me? How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc? Biscay
  • Score: -4

11:20pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Ronnietate says...

I would like to personally poison the Halal meat that they produce and put the company out of business!
I would like to personally poison the Halal meat that they produce and put the company out of business! Ronnietate
  • Score: -3

11:21pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Ronnietate says...

No place for producers or eaters of Halal meat in Britain!
No place for producers or eaters of Halal meat in Britain! Ronnietate
  • Score: -1

12:04am Sat 5 Jul 14

Mothernature says...

salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons.

Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence?

Why are we here?
You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.
What planet are you on Salvadore? Your so called gods are nothing more than illusions, created to offer false hopes to those who need to know there is a reason to life. There is no creator of life to worship, we all came from an accident of nature.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons. Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence? Why are we here?[/p][/quote]You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.[/p][/quote]What planet are you on Salvadore? Your so called gods are nothing more than illusions, created to offer false hopes to those who need to know there is a reason to life. There is no creator of life to worship, we all came from an accident of nature. Mothernature
  • Score: -3

12:46am Sat 5 Jul 14

salvadore says...

Ronnietate wrote:
No place for producers or eaters of Halal meat in Britain!
No place for idiots like you either, I suggest you becareful what you say next time there's a food scandal we know where to find the culprit.
[quote][p][bold]Ronnietate[/bold] wrote: No place for producers or eaters of Halal meat in Britain![/p][/quote]No place for idiots like you either, I suggest you becareful what you say next time there's a food scandal we know where to find the culprit. salvadore
  • Score: 3

12:57am Sat 5 Jul 14

salvadore says...

Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.
An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons:
Forced marriage
Arranged marriage
Honour killings
Female Genital mutilation
A young girl shot in the head for going to school
Women beaten up for being lesbian
Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas
Doesn't seem very equal to me?
How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?
Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife![/p][/quote]You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.[/p][/quote]An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons: Forced marriage Arranged marriage Honour killings Female Genital mutilation A young girl shot in the head for going to school Women beaten up for being lesbian Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas Doesn't seem very equal to me? How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?[/p][/quote]Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard. salvadore
  • Score: 8

1:00am Sat 5 Jul 14

salvadore says...

Mothernature wrote:
salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons.

Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence?

Why are we here?
You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.
What planet are you on Salvadore? Your so called gods are nothing more than illusions, created to offer false hopes to those who need to know there is a reason to life. There is no creator of life to worship, we all came from an accident of nature.
Speak for yourself we will all find out when we're 6 ft under. When everything you use car, bed, house etc is created by someone are you telling me that there is no creator for the moon, sun, stars all the creatures in the world. Your too blind to see it
[quote][p][bold]Mothernature[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons. Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence? Why are we here?[/p][/quote]You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.[/p][/quote]What planet are you on Salvadore? Your so called gods are nothing more than illusions, created to offer false hopes to those who need to know there is a reason to life. There is no creator of life to worship, we all came from an accident of nature.[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself we will all find out when we're 6 ft under. When everything you use car, bed, house etc is created by someone are you telling me that there is no creator for the moon, sun, stars all the creatures in the world. Your too blind to see it salvadore
  • Score: 2

2:05am Sat 5 Jul 14

woolywords says...

Anyone mind if I mash my banana before eating it in a sandwich?
Anyone mind if I mash my banana before eating it in a sandwich? woolywords
  • Score: 1

3:16am Sat 5 Jul 14

Happy-Dude says...

I never eat or buy Halal and will continue to never eat it as it something I dont agree with, however I am happy to accept it is the muslim way and each to there own etc, what I am against strongly though is the fact that muslims refuse to serve our humanly slaughtered meat because its against there religion and they wont serve ham or bacon which in my eyes is being racially descrimination and expect us to accept that and accept there way, muslims may have brainwashed many with the ridiculous ways but as long as we all stick together and dont buy from there takeaways etc then they will loose business and may have to either rethink or even close there takeaways, what I do is when I go into a takeaway I look at a menu if there is no pig products I walk out I would rather starve than eat halal, but like I say I am happy for muslims to have halal just serve both and none of this "against my religion" brainwashing rubbish
I never eat or buy Halal and will continue to never eat it as it something I dont agree with, however I am happy to accept it is the muslim way and each to there own etc, what I am against strongly though is the fact that muslims refuse to serve our humanly slaughtered meat because its against there religion and they wont serve ham or bacon which in my eyes is being racially descrimination and expect us to accept that and accept there way, muslims may have brainwashed many with the ridiculous ways but as long as we all stick together and dont buy from there takeaways etc then they will loose business and may have to either rethink or even close there takeaways, what I do is when I go into a takeaway I look at a menu if there is no pig products I walk out I would rather starve than eat halal, but like I say I am happy for muslims to have halal just serve both and none of this "against my religion" brainwashing rubbish Happy-Dude
  • Score: -6

4:11am Sat 5 Jul 14

RonaldoCR7 says...

First time poster on LT. Read the article amongst others and I have also read comments from other articles. There is a lot of bile being spouted out from all parties. I have not come across any impartial arguments or comments regarding the issues or themes of the article itself. It seems as though there are parties posting on LT who are using articles as a catalyst to vent their grievances and prejudice against other community /religious/political
/social groups of Blackburn. It is a real sad state of affairs in 21st Century Britain. There is one universal truth here and that is that you are all part of the human community. Countries/borders/co
ntinents/hemispheres are irrelevant. I urge all of you to think about this point. Respect starts with treating each other as equals once that mindset has been achieved by the community of Blackburn you can start to build your town upwards and onwards. Then you can address the real problems of unemployment, social issues etc. if you make Blackburn appealing then it will attract investment growth and prosperity. If you carry on with your hatred for each other then the town will keep on declining. Unite for the greater good of the town.
First time poster on LT. Read the article amongst others and I have also read comments from other articles. There is a lot of bile being spouted out from all parties. I have not come across any impartial arguments or comments regarding the issues or themes of the article itself. It seems as though there are parties posting on LT who are using articles as a catalyst to vent their grievances and prejudice against other community /religious/political /social groups of Blackburn. It is a real sad state of affairs in 21st Century Britain. There is one universal truth here and that is that you are all part of the human community. Countries/borders/co ntinents/hemispheres are irrelevant. I urge all of you to think about this point. Respect starts with treating each other as equals once that mindset has been achieved by the community of Blackburn you can start to build your town upwards and onwards. Then you can address the real problems of unemployment, social issues etc. if you make Blackburn appealing then it will attract investment growth and prosperity. If you carry on with your hatred for each other then the town will keep on declining. Unite for the greater good of the town. RonaldoCR7
  • Score: 5

4:29am Sat 5 Jul 14

RonaldoCR7 says...

Ronnietate wrote:
I would like to personally poison the Halal meat that they produce and put the company out of business!
I would like to know your reasons for suggesting this? Poisoning food regardless halal or not is a very serious statement. You probably made a cavalier off the cuff comment here. But let's think about the statement you made and it's implications. If by some statistical probability there was a case of food poisoning immediately after you posted your comment. Your off the cuff comment becomes a serious bit of evidence in an investigation. And let's say that god forbid someone did die as a result of food poisoning then your statement becomes a very real threat to harm. I will let your imagination and logic build up the rest of this hypothetical scenario and when you have reached to your conclusion, think about what you say in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Ronnietate[/bold] wrote: I would like to personally poison the Halal meat that they produce and put the company out of business![/p][/quote]I would like to know your reasons for suggesting this? Poisoning food regardless halal or not is a very serious statement. You probably made a cavalier off the cuff comment here. But let's think about the statement you made and it's implications. If by some statistical probability there was a case of food poisoning immediately after you posted your comment. Your off the cuff comment becomes a serious bit of evidence in an investigation. And let's say that god forbid someone did die as a result of food poisoning then your statement becomes a very real threat to harm. I will let your imagination and logic build up the rest of this hypothetical scenario and when you have reached to your conclusion, think about what you say in the future. RonaldoCR7
  • Score: 2

7:46am Sat 5 Jul 14

Biscay says...

salvadore wrote:
Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.
An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons:
Forced marriage
Arranged marriage
Honour killings
Female Genital mutilation
A young girl shot in the head for going to school
Women beaten up for being lesbian
Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas
Doesn't seem very equal to me?
How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?
Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.
"There is no force in Islam"
I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened

Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil,
How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday?
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife![/p][/quote]You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.[/p][/quote]An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons: Forced marriage Arranged marriage Honour killings Female Genital mutilation A young girl shot in the head for going to school Women beaten up for being lesbian Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas Doesn't seem very equal to me? How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?[/p][/quote]Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.[/p][/quote]"There is no force in Islam" I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil, How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday? Biscay
  • Score: 3

10:00am Sat 5 Jul 14

salvadore says...

Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.
An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons:
Forced marriage
Arranged marriage
Honour killings
Female Genital mutilation
A young girl shot in the head for going to school
Women beaten up for being lesbian
Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas
Doesn't seem very equal to me?
How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?
Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.
"There is no force in Islam"
I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened

Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil,
How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday?
You show me a tiny % of extremist who contrary to Islam and tar all of Islam with them. It's like saying the KKK represents all if Christianity or hitler represents athiest. As for men wearing a veil obviously that's not for men but have other rules as I pointed out. You seem to think that Allah swt created men and women the same. There's a difference physically and mentally. Try biology lesson it might help, your statement is moronic you want men and women to wear the same thing for equality. In that case men should wear skirts and blouses and a bra and women should wear Calvin Kline underpants. Do me a favor leave it, the veil is for women again optional for men it's keeping gaged down, beard, loose clothing etc. leading prayers women can lead women prayers and there are many women scholars and imams. There's non mixing of gender in Islam do no they can't lead men. Again funerals women can not when men are there at later time go to cemetery. As for the celebration of the birthday that's not many Muslims do. It's singeing the prophet pbuh did or asked is to do. It's an innovation of the religion that is wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife![/p][/quote]You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.[/p][/quote]An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons: Forced marriage Arranged marriage Honour killings Female Genital mutilation A young girl shot in the head for going to school Women beaten up for being lesbian Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas Doesn't seem very equal to me? How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?[/p][/quote]Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.[/p][/quote]"There is no force in Islam" I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil, How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday?[/p][/quote]You show me a tiny % of extremist who contrary to Islam and tar all of Islam with them. It's like saying the KKK represents all if Christianity or hitler represents athiest. As for men wearing a veil obviously that's not for men but have other rules as I pointed out. You seem to think that Allah swt created men and women the same. There's a difference physically and mentally. Try biology lesson it might help, your statement is moronic you want men and women to wear the same thing for equality. In that case men should wear skirts and blouses and a bra and women should wear Calvin Kline underpants. Do me a favor leave it, the veil is for women again optional for men it's keeping gaged down, beard, loose clothing etc. leading prayers women can lead women prayers and there are many women scholars and imams. There's non mixing of gender in Islam do no they can't lead men. Again funerals women can not when men are there at later time go to cemetery. As for the celebration of the birthday that's not many Muslims do. It's singeing the prophet pbuh did or asked is to do. It's an innovation of the religion that is wrong. salvadore
  • Score: 0

10:17am Sat 5 Jul 14

salvadore says...

Clarify last blog due to grammatical mistakes, men have to keep their gazes down and have beards etc. women can not go to funerals when men are there but can later to visit the grave. The prophet pbuh never celebrated or asked his followers to celebrate his birth. This is an innovation in our religion that some follow. It's wrong and it's against Islam.
Clarify last blog due to grammatical mistakes, men have to keep their gazes down and have beards etc. women can not go to funerals when men are there but can later to visit the grave. The prophet pbuh never celebrated or asked his followers to celebrate his birth. This is an innovation in our religion that some follow. It's wrong and it's against Islam. salvadore
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Sat 5 Jul 14

pdb951 says...

salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons.

Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence?

Why are we here?
You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.
Boll**ks
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Whenever the topic of Halal slaughter is criticized it always ends up comparing methods of slaughter and which is more humane than the other. All that is needed is to put yourself in the position of the animal about to be slaughtered. It’s being slaughtered because another living thing who is more powerful want’s to eat it. I don’t think you’d be very pleased, especially when it’s done in a very odd way just for godly reasons. Who are these Gods anyway and what is the reason for there existence? Where do they come from? Do animals have a God? Do the Gods have animals to kill and do they practice Halal in their slaughter houses like we do? Could they not be vegetarians? Do they worship another God? Do they need a God to guide them on their way like we do? Or is a God just a way of trying to justify the reason for our existence? Why are we here?[/p][/quote]You got problems mate you have little faith May Allah help you. We all creatures of one Allah, the creator the mighty. Animals and all creatures pray to same Allah as us humans. Allah has created creatures that is edible for us humans, as well as fruit fish and veg. humans were the main creation from Allah swt in this earth to submit themselves to his commands.[/p][/quote]Boll**ks pdb951
  • Score: 0

4:15pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Biscay says...

salvadore wrote:
Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.
An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons:
Forced marriage
Arranged marriage
Honour killings
Female Genital mutilation
A young girl shot in the head for going to school
Women beaten up for being lesbian
Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas
Doesn't seem very equal to me?
How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?
Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.
"There is no force in Islam"
I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened

Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil,
How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday?
You show me a tiny % of extremist who contrary to Islam and tar all of Islam with them. It's like saying the KKK represents all if Christianity or hitler represents athiest. As for men wearing a veil obviously that's not for men but have other rules as I pointed out. You seem to think that Allah swt created men and women the same. There's a difference physically and mentally. Try biology lesson it might help, your statement is moronic you want men and women to wear the same thing for equality. In that case men should wear skirts and blouses and a bra and women should wear Calvin Kline underpants. Do me a favor leave it, the veil is for women again optional for men it's keeping gaged down, beard, loose clothing etc. leading prayers women can lead women prayers and there are many women scholars and imams. There's non mixing of gender in Islam do no they can't lead men. Again funerals women can not when men are there at later time go to cemetery. As for the celebration of the birthday that's not many Muslims do. It's singeing the prophet pbuh did or asked is to do. It's an innovation of the religion that is wrong.
Final comment - you have said nothing that changes my view that - Islam = a belief system that has been invented by men for men with no regard what so ever for real equality between the sexes.

Muslim men are very insecure - they must be to allow a belief system with all the repressive cultural norms that are associated with being a Muslim to continue in 2014.

You seem very angry in your posts I.e abusive language - usually an angry man knows the truth that lies beneath but is afraid to acknowledge what he really knows.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife![/p][/quote]You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.[/p][/quote]An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons: Forced marriage Arranged marriage Honour killings Female Genital mutilation A young girl shot in the head for going to school Women beaten up for being lesbian Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas Doesn't seem very equal to me? How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?[/p][/quote]Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.[/p][/quote]"There is no force in Islam" I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil, How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday?[/p][/quote]You show me a tiny % of extremist who contrary to Islam and tar all of Islam with them. It's like saying the KKK represents all if Christianity or hitler represents athiest. As for men wearing a veil obviously that's not for men but have other rules as I pointed out. You seem to think that Allah swt created men and women the same. There's a difference physically and mentally. Try biology lesson it might help, your statement is moronic you want men and women to wear the same thing for equality. In that case men should wear skirts and blouses and a bra and women should wear Calvin Kline underpants. Do me a favor leave it, the veil is for women again optional for men it's keeping gaged down, beard, loose clothing etc. leading prayers women can lead women prayers and there are many women scholars and imams. There's non mixing of gender in Islam do no they can't lead men. Again funerals women can not when men are there at later time go to cemetery. As for the celebration of the birthday that's not many Muslims do. It's singeing the prophet pbuh did or asked is to do. It's an innovation of the religion that is wrong.[/p][/quote]Final comment - you have said nothing that changes my view that - Islam = a belief system that has been invented by men for men with no regard what so ever for real equality between the sexes. Muslim men are very insecure - they must be to allow a belief system with all the repressive cultural norms that are associated with being a Muslim to continue in 2014. You seem very angry in your posts I.e abusive language - usually an angry man knows the truth that lies beneath but is afraid to acknowledge what he really knows. Biscay
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Sat 5 Jul 14

salvadore says...

Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
Biscay wrote:
salvadore wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you.

Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to!

Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality.

Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife!
You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.
An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons:
Forced marriage
Arranged marriage
Honour killings
Female Genital mutilation
A young girl shot in the head for going to school
Women beaten up for being lesbian
Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas
Doesn't seem very equal to me?
How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?
Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.
"There is no force in Islam"
I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened

Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil,
How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday?
You show me a tiny % of extremist who contrary to Islam and tar all of Islam with them. It's like saying the KKK represents all if Christianity or hitler represents athiest. As for men wearing a veil obviously that's not for men but have other rules as I pointed out. You seem to think that Allah swt created men and women the same. There's a difference physically and mentally. Try biology lesson it might help, your statement is moronic you want men and women to wear the same thing for equality. In that case men should wear skirts and blouses and a bra and women should wear Calvin Kline underpants. Do me a favor leave it, the veil is for women again optional for men it's keeping gaged down, beard, loose clothing etc. leading prayers women can lead women prayers and there are many women scholars and imams. There's non mixing of gender in Islam do no they can't lead men. Again funerals women can not when men are there at later time go to cemetery. As for the celebration of the birthday that's not many Muslims do. It's singeing the prophet pbuh did or asked is to do. It's an innovation of the religion that is wrong.
Final comment - you have said nothing that changes my view that - Islam = a belief system that has been invented by men for men with no regard what so ever for real equality between the sexes.

Muslim men are very insecure - they must be to allow a belief system with all the repressive cultural norms that are associated with being a Muslim to continue in 2014.

You seem very angry in your posts I.e abusive language - usually an angry man knows the truth that lies beneath but is afraid to acknowledge what he really knows.
Then you are mistaken, as I've shown already Islam puts women at the centre of daily life. From aisha the prophets pbuh wife being the main scholar for teaching the prophets pbuh teachings to the mother in Islam has paradise under his feet, meaning respect her and give her high status to achieve paradise. Furthermore the rights given to women respect is enshrined in Islamic sharia law. No other religion or belief went to that extent, this happened in the 7 th century. As for me being angry I'm not, I just get fed up with people wanting to have a go at Muslims on the smallest issue many times unrelated to the wider religion. I'm man enough to apologise for indifferent language not meant to be said in spite.
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: salvadore said: Your so full of **** your eyes are brown. You believe whatever you want pea brain, I don't expect a dim **** like you to understand. No point answering the questions when the answers are beyond the capability and understanding of idiots like you. Go on, try and answer the questions. Alah would want you to! Quote: Islam gave rights to women in all aspects of life by the prophet pbuh in the 7th century to raise their status and gain equality. Wow, thank goodness for pbuh for being so generous to the underlife![/p][/quote]You obviously don't read well I did more or less previously, the comments were aimed at the drunken donut. Under life women that's exactly what it was like before the prophet pbuh. Prophet pbuh raised the status of women without they ever having to demonstrate for them or even demanding equality. It was done as women in Islam are equals.[/p][/quote]An interesting view point on Islam, women and equality - I struggle to agree with you for a number of reasons: Forced marriage Arranged marriage Honour killings Female Genital mutilation A young girl shot in the head for going to school Women beaten up for being lesbian Last but by no means least - women wearing burkas Doesn't seem very equal to me? How about Muslim men wearing a hood over their heads so that they are not corrupted by the sight of the female form.? Or how about Muslim men having their testicles cut off so that they don't derive any pleasure from sex? Or how about the women arranging the marriages etc etc?[/p][/quote]Wow is that all you got, your ignorance makes me laugh. You really are stupid as you look. Let's deal with your so calked ignorant comments. Forced marraige = unislamic, FGM= Unislamic it's more cultural in African countries. Arranged marriages nothing wrong with them as both partners agree to marry each other. What other ignorant comment you oh yeah women shot for going to school, the tiny minority of extremist do such actions try concentrating on 99.9% who send their daughters for tier best education. What beating up of a lesbian whatever that was it was pure criminal it happens in all walks of life. Finally the burkha, a piece of cloth women choose to wear NOT forced they choose to wear it for spiritual reasons. Even Mary mother of jests wore one. Yet idiots like you want to take that choice away from Muslim women. So much for women's rights. There is no force in Islam. Men have rules too on wearing modest clothing keeping a beard.[/p][/quote]"There is no force in Islam" I'd suggest you buy a newspaper or switch on the TV and watch the news - you might be quite enlightened Anyway you conveniently dodged the issue of muslin men wearing the veil, How about Muslim women leading prayers at mosque on Fridays, or going along to Muslim funerals or even leading the processions to celebrate the prophets birthday?[/p][/quote]You show me a tiny % of extremist who contrary to Islam and tar all of Islam with them. It's like saying the KKK represents all if Christianity or hitler represents athiest. As for men wearing a veil obviously that's not for men but have other rules as I pointed out. You seem to think that Allah swt created men and women the same. There's a difference physically and mentally. Try biology lesson it might help, your statement is moronic you want men and women to wear the same thing for equality. In that case men should wear skirts and blouses and a bra and women should wear Calvin Kline underpants. Do me a favor leave it, the veil is for women again optional for men it's keeping gaged down, beard, loose clothing etc. leading prayers women can lead women prayers and there are many women scholars and imams. There's non mixing of gender in Islam do no they can't lead men. Again funerals women can not when men are there at later time go to cemetery. As for the celebration of the birthday that's not many Muslims do. It's singeing the prophet pbuh did or asked is to do. It's an innovation of the religion that is wrong.[/p][/quote]Final comment - you have said nothing that changes my view that - Islam = a belief system that has been invented by men for men with no regard what so ever for real equality between the sexes. Muslim men are very insecure - they must be to allow a belief system with all the repressive cultural norms that are associated with being a Muslim to continue in 2014. You seem very angry in your posts I.e abusive language - usually an angry man knows the truth that lies beneath but is afraid to acknowledge what he really knows.[/p][/quote]Then you are mistaken, as I've shown already Islam puts women at the centre of daily life. From aisha the prophets pbuh wife being the main scholar for teaching the prophets pbuh teachings to the mother in Islam has paradise under his feet, meaning respect her and give her high status to achieve paradise. Furthermore the rights given to women respect is enshrined in Islamic sharia law. No other religion or belief went to that extent, this happened in the 7 th century. As for me being angry I'm not, I just get fed up with people wanting to have a go at Muslims on the smallest issue many times unrelated to the wider religion. I'm man enough to apologise for indifferent language not meant to be said in spite. salvadore
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7:36am Fri 11 Jul 14

Lancashire123 says...

Malthus wrote:
Halal slaughter to me is a practice that would probably be illegal if it was not done in the name of a deity.
You seem uneducated on this topic so let me educate you. The method used by Muslims to slaughter an animal is the quickest and least painful way to do so. Please explain why you think this would be illegal.
[quote][p][bold]Malthus[/bold] wrote: Halal slaughter to me is a practice that would probably be illegal if it was not done in the name of a deity.[/p][/quote]You seem uneducated on this topic so let me educate you. The method used by Muslims to slaughter an animal is the quickest and least painful way to do so. Please explain why you think this would be illegal. Lancashire123
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7:38am Fri 11 Jul 14

Lancashire123 says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
salvadore wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.
What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up
Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps?
How about Shut up.
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Halal is fine Halal meat is not! and its production in our so called civilised country should not be tolerated. Pandering to the religious fanatics from muslim and jewish people in this country is dragging our ethical standards back into the dark ages. when you watch the news and wonder what the hell is going on in the middle east with tit for tat killings bombed out citys and religious curfews and laws its coming to britain and coming sooner than you think. However there is an alternative and that is to say no at the ballot box to the people who have swamped this country with there twisted religious views. Before you leftys cry Racist, no its not the race of people i have issues with but the brainwashed religious beliefs they peddle. Ban Halal and Kosher meat production now.[/p][/quote]What a **** you are and all those anti halal idiots. Anything to have a go at minority religions especially Islam. Firstly halal and kosher slaughter is the quickest means to killing an animal. Secondly the meat is drained of blood and washed so blood related diseases such as mad cow disease etc don't come in to the food chain. As for non halal meat you should look how that is slaughtered, pigs gassed, sheeps brains smashed and cattle shot in the head with **** guns. I guess not a problem for the Islamaphobes, this is nothing to do with animal welfare it's having a go at Muslims. If you lot were so bothered about animal welfare you'd become vegans. All killing of animals is painful for the animals. As for stunning an animal, this is torture for the animal before death. If someone put 1000s of volts through a humans brains which knocked him out and then he was killed. People rightly would say they have been tortured to death. So all you so calked animal welfare lovers do me a favour and start getting some facts before you comment. What a bunch of bonfire hypocrites. As for KQF, I say good luck to them, they will employ more people from all backgrounds as they do now. The first idiot who remarked that Asians will get more jobs but don't forget to sign off, should go and check mill hill and Shadsworth where you'll find generations of dole dossers. Grow up[/p][/quote]Why don't you try crying about it and see if that helps?[/p][/quote]How about Shut up. Lancashire123
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