New Blackburn boys’ school a ‘glowing’ example

From left, pupils Hamzah Isap, Adam Patel, Humza Yakub, Aadil Waghat, Muhammad Hasan and Muhammad Mohammed celebrate  Tauheedul Boys’ High School to  get an outstanding Ofsted report

From left, pupils Hamzah Isap, Adam Patel, Humza Yakub, Aadil Waghat, Muhammad Hasan and Muhammad Mohammed celebrate Tauheedul Boys’ High School to get an outstanding Ofsted report

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Education reporter

A TOP government minister has described a Blackburn high school as an ‘excellent example’.

Tauheedul Islam Boys School has achieved an outstanding Ofsted rating in just its second year in existence.

The Robinson Street school’s inspection has even drawn the attention of Schools Minister Lord John Nash who has personally congratulated staff and pupils.

The minister said the report showed the school – which opened in September 2012 – as an example of what free schools could achieve.

He said: “I congratulate staff and pupils at Tauheedul Islam Boys’ High School on the publication of their first Ofsted report.

“Achieving this outstanding rating in only their second year of opening is a fantastic achievement and all down to the exceptional hard work and determination of the teachers and pupils at the school.

“I am particularly impressed by the glowing comments Ofsted has made about their exceptional success in developing students’ speaking and communication skills, the way the school is preparing them for future success and life in a multicultural society, as well as pupils’ exemplary behaviour and attendance.

“This school is an excellent example of how the free school programme is offering pupils and parents a high standard of education.”

Ofsted inspectors who visited the school said students achieve ‘outstandingly well’.

They found the proportion of students who made better progress than expected when starting the school was ‘exceptionally high’.

Lead inspector Stephen Wall said: “Teachers expect the students to work hard and give of their very best. They are rarely, if ever, disappointed with the response.”

TIBHS’s chief executive Mubaaruck Ibrahim said the entire school was thrilled with the report.

He said: “We’ve only been open a short while but a lot of hard work has gone into making the school what it is.

“Everyone is absolutely delighted with the comments we have received. It is all down to the hard work of staff and pupils.”

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7:38pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Mummyzlove says...

Well done TIBHS
Well done TIBHS Mummyzlove
  • Score: 10

7:46pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Steven Seagull says...

A glowing example of self segregation and refusal to integrate.
A glowing example of self segregation and refusal to integrate. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 76

8:17pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Graham Hartley says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
A glowing example of self segregation and refusal to integrate.
If they refuse to integrate then they will miss some of the most useful applications of calculus. The work done ʃ Fdx gives us energy and instant power P(t) = dW/dt
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: A glowing example of self segregation and refusal to integrate.[/p][/quote]If they refuse to integrate then they will miss some of the most useful applications of calculus. The work done ʃ Fdx gives us energy and instant power P(t) = dW/dt Graham Hartley
  • Score: 13

8:43pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Excluded again says...

And so what was predicted to happen with the Tory Party's 'free schools' programme has come to pass. Religious and political minorities up and down the country have set up segregated schools to keep 'their' young people isolated form wider society as far as is possible.

In the best cases, like Tauheedul, at least the kids get a good education. But no idea of the wider society around them, how it works, what makes people from other groups in society tick. At worst, some of the 'free schools' have provided education so dire that they have had to be closed down.

To be fair: the Tories were quite open about what they were going to do at the last election. And the warnings about what would happen were equally clear. This move to segregation in education was done in plain sight and lots of people voted for it.
And so what was predicted to happen with the Tory Party's 'free schools' programme has come to pass. Religious and political minorities up and down the country have set up segregated schools to keep 'their' young people isolated form wider society as far as is possible. In the best cases, like Tauheedul, at least the kids get a good education. But no idea of the wider society around them, how it works, what makes people from other groups in society tick. At worst, some of the 'free schools' have provided education so dire that they have had to be closed down. To be fair: the Tories were quite open about what they were going to do at the last election. And the warnings about what would happen were equally clear. This move to segregation in education was done in plain sight and lots of people voted for it. Excluded again
  • Score: 26

9:35pm Mon 28 Apr 14

blackburn4life says...

After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools.

Well Done to the Girls and Boys
After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools. Well Done to the Girls and Boys blackburn4life
  • Score: -29

9:43pm Mon 28 Apr 14

HenningBerg-er says...

I hear this success is on the back of another achievement where Tauheedul Boys came 2nd from over 3000 secondary schools in the national attendance table.

Once again, we see this organisation continue to let their results do the talking...
I hear this success is on the back of another achievement where Tauheedul Boys came 2nd from over 3000 secondary schools in the national attendance table. Once again, we see this organisation continue to let their results do the talking... HenningBerg-er
  • Score: -36

10:59pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

blackburn4life wrote:
After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools.

Well Done to the Girls and Boys
This may be true as far as education goes BB4L but what about integration, where is young Master Peter Smith or Miss Pamela Smith in this excellent school, Asian children need to mix or we will continue to be a divided nation, already we have reports of schools being taken over by Muslim radicalists , how will this help our children.
I'm sorry but in my book a great glowing school should have all educational qualities which includes integration amongst different ethnic backgrounds and young males and females taught together.
[quote][p][bold]blackburn4life[/bold] wrote: After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools. Well Done to the Girls and Boys[/p][/quote]This may be true as far as education goes BB4L but what about integration, where is young Master Peter Smith or Miss Pamela Smith in this excellent school, Asian children need to mix or we will continue to be a divided nation, already we have reports of schools being taken over by Muslim radicalists , how will this help our children. I'm sorry but in my book a great glowing school should have all educational qualities which includes integration amongst different ethnic backgrounds and young males and females taught together. Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 36

11:05pm Mon 28 Apr 14

editor1988 says...

Excellent news for Blackburn. Well deserved.

Proud of you.

Excellent comments from Lord Nash.
Excellent news for Blackburn. Well deserved. Proud of you. Excellent comments from Lord Nash. editor1988
  • Score: -23

11:11pm Mon 28 Apr 14

editor1988 says...

Fantastic achievement of the school, particularly as it is a new school.

Just did some research online and found that the boys at the school run a weekly food bank for people from all communities. I saw some white and asian people with the food bags.

An example of Paul, a non Muslim who is helped by the school food club.

For example, Paul is a resident of Blackburn and was unable to afford food from his benefits. He had a difficult choice between paying for food, heating or rent. He had limited support from family and friends. He attended the Food Club and was touched by the kindness and affection he received at the Food Club.

“Food for All has helped me out loads. If it wasn’t for this place I would have been struggling. I was in a very bad situation and this affected my health … I can’t say enough about the place. There’s no judgment here, you are not questioned here or anything. It makes a huge difference. The kids that are here are great, they’re brilliant. When I first came here I was really surprised. The kids were offering to carry my bags for me. They were prepared to go an extra mile.”

http://www.tauheedul
relief.org/trt-spotl
ight-details/forced-
between-eating-and-h
eating/
Fantastic achievement of the school, particularly as it is a new school. Just did some research online and found that the boys at the school run a weekly food bank for people from all communities. I saw some white and asian people with the food bags. An example of Paul, a non Muslim who is helped by the school food club. For example, Paul is a resident of Blackburn and was unable to afford food from his benefits. He had a difficult choice between paying for food, heating or rent. He had limited support from family and friends. He attended the Food Club and was touched by the kindness and affection he received at the Food Club. “Food for All has helped me out loads. If it wasn’t for this place I would have been struggling. I was in a very bad situation and this affected my health … I can’t say enough about the place. There’s no judgment here, you are not questioned here or anything. It makes a huge difference. The kids that are here are great, they’re brilliant. When I first came here I was really surprised. The kids were offering to carry my bags for me. They were prepared to go an extra mile.” http://www.tauheedul relief.org/trt-spotl ight-details/forced- between-eating-and-h eating/ editor1988
  • Score: -35

11:13pm Mon 28 Apr 14

editor1988 says...

These guys are doing some amazing work. I have never heard of a school running a food club every week.

Read on ....

Are you struggling to meet ends? Food for All runs a School Food Club in Blackburn for disadvantaged families. Food packs are distributed every Friday between 12.30 – 1.30 pm at Tauheedul Boys School, Robinson Street, Little Harwood BB1 5PE.

http://www.tauheedul
relief.org/campaigns
/food-for-all/
These guys are doing some amazing work. I have never heard of a school running a food club every week. Read on .... Are you struggling to meet ends? Food for All runs a School Food Club in Blackburn for disadvantaged families. Food packs are distributed every Friday between 12.30 – 1.30 pm at Tauheedul Boys School, Robinson Street, Little Harwood BB1 5PE. http://www.tauheedul relief.org/campaigns /food-for-all/ editor1988
  • Score: -26

11:14pm Mon 28 Apr 14

editor1988 says...

Well done boys. You deserve a double outstanding rating from Ofsted.

Excellent for Blackburn.

Keep it up.
Well done boys. You deserve a double outstanding rating from Ofsted. Excellent for Blackburn. Keep it up. editor1988
  • Score: -72

11:27pm Mon 28 Apr 14

ossydave says...

Results at the expense to society.
Results at the expense to society. ossydave
  • Score: 43

11:31pm Mon 28 Apr 14

shirtbox says...

Is this school open to Christian children?
Is this school open to Christian children? shirtbox
  • Score: 42

11:41pm Mon 28 Apr 14

editor1988 says...

The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school. editor1988
  • Score: -44

11:42pm Mon 28 Apr 14

editor1988 says...

Unlike local authority faith schools that don't have to take members of other faiths.

I think all faith schools like Tauheedul should be open to all faiths and use faith to drive innovation and excellence.
Unlike local authority faith schools that don't have to take members of other faiths. I think all faith schools like Tauheedul should be open to all faiths and use faith to drive innovation and excellence. editor1988
  • Score: 43

11:51pm Mon 28 Apr 14

ToffeeGuy says...

I have yet to understand how segregation of education along gender lines helps people to enter the work place where men and women have to work together on a daily basis.
I have yet to understand how segregation of education along gender lines helps people to enter the work place where men and women have to work together on a daily basis. ToffeeGuy
  • Score: 16

12:02am Tue 29 Apr 14

ikap22 says...

editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
[quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours. ikap22
  • Score: 40

12:22am Tue 29 Apr 14

wilddog says...

editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
So they have lessons on the bible too then?
[quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]So they have lessons on the bible too then? wilddog
  • Score: 58

1:02am Tue 29 Apr 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

wilddog wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
So they have lessons on the bible too then?
I went to bog standard high school and I had more lessons on other religions than Christianity so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Lets not assume that because they go to a 'different' school that they are all going to bomb us and take over this country. They are just young people getting a good education and they have done really well.

You all talk about segregation but yet you are the ones assuming something different of the lads going to this school, perhaps it's you with the problem not them.

Don't judge somebody you don't know and don't treat an individual mind as a collective because that doesn't make for a good human!
[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]So they have lessons on the bible too then?[/p][/quote]I went to bog standard high school and I had more lessons on other religions than Christianity so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Lets not assume that because they go to a 'different' school that they are all going to bomb us and take over this country. They are just young people getting a good education and they have done really well. You all talk about segregation but yet you are the ones assuming something different of the lads going to this school, perhaps it's you with the problem not them. Don't judge somebody you don't know and don't treat an individual mind as a collective because that doesn't make for a good human! HelmshoreMan2010
  • Score: -169

5:43am Tue 29 Apr 14

HenningBerg-er says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
blackburn4life wrote:
After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools.

Well Done to the Girls and Boys
This may be true as far as education goes BB4L but what about integration, where is young Master Peter Smith or Miss Pamela Smith in this excellent school, Asian children need to mix or we will continue to be a divided nation, already we have reports of schools being taken over by Muslim radicalists , how will this help our children.
I'm sorry but in my book a great glowing school should have all educational qualities which includes integration amongst different ethnic backgrounds and young males and females taught together.
Understand your concerns but when a senior figure like Lord Nash, who recently closed a number of schools for various reasons says,
"I am particularly impressed with the glowing comments ofsted have made about...the way the school is preparing them for future success and life in a multicultural society..."
then the school must be doing something right to help prepare their students to integrate once they leave school?
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackburn4life[/bold] wrote: After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools. Well Done to the Girls and Boys[/p][/quote]This may be true as far as education goes BB4L but what about integration, where is young Master Peter Smith or Miss Pamela Smith in this excellent school, Asian children need to mix or we will continue to be a divided nation, already we have reports of schools being taken over by Muslim radicalists , how will this help our children. I'm sorry but in my book a great glowing school should have all educational qualities which includes integration amongst different ethnic backgrounds and young males and females taught together.[/p][/quote]Understand your concerns but when a senior figure like Lord Nash, who recently closed a number of schools for various reasons says, "I am particularly impressed with the glowing comments ofsted have made about...the way the school is preparing them for future success and life in a multicultural society..." then the school must be doing something right to help prepare their students to integrate once they leave school? HenningBerg-er
  • Score: -55

5:50am Tue 29 Apr 14

HenningBerg-er says...

ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
[quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school. HenningBerg-er
  • Score: -52

5:56am Tue 29 Apr 14

HenningBerg-er says...

HelmshoreMan2010 wrote:
wilddog wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
So they have lessons on the bible too then?
I went to bog standard high school and I had more lessons on other religions than Christianity so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Lets not assume that because they go to a 'different' school that they are all going to bomb us and take over this country. They are just young people getting a good education and they have done really well.

You all talk about segregation but yet you are the ones assuming something different of the lads going to this school, perhaps it's you with the problem not them.

Don't judge somebody you don't know and don't treat an individual mind as a collective because that doesn't make for a good human!
Couldn't agree more
[quote][p][bold]HelmshoreMan2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]So they have lessons on the bible too then?[/p][/quote]I went to bog standard high school and I had more lessons on other religions than Christianity so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Lets not assume that because they go to a 'different' school that they are all going to bomb us and take over this country. They are just young people getting a good education and they have done really well. You all talk about segregation but yet you are the ones assuming something different of the lads going to this school, perhaps it's you with the problem not them. Don't judge somebody you don't know and don't treat an individual mind as a collective because that doesn't make for a good human![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more HenningBerg-er
  • Score: -45

6:58am Tue 29 Apr 14

happycyclist says...

Excluded again wrote:
And so what was predicted to happen with the Tory Party's 'free schools' programme has come to pass. Religious and political minorities up and down the country have set up segregated schools to keep 'their' young people isolated form wider society as far as is possible.

In the best cases, like Tauheedul, at least the kids get a good education. But no idea of the wider society around them, how it works, what makes people from other groups in society tick. At worst, some of the 'free schools' have provided education so dire that they have had to be closed down.

To be fair: the Tories were quite open about what they were going to do at the last election. And the warnings about what would happen were equally clear. This move to segregation in education was done in plain sight and lots of people voted for it.
If Labour had done a better job (of both education and the country as a whole) people would have voted for them again. Nobody voted for free schools in the last election, but many people did vote to get the useless Labour Party out of office, and as a result, the Tories were able to keep to this particular manifesto promise. Take your rose glasses off.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: And so what was predicted to happen with the Tory Party's 'free schools' programme has come to pass. Religious and political minorities up and down the country have set up segregated schools to keep 'their' young people isolated form wider society as far as is possible. In the best cases, like Tauheedul, at least the kids get a good education. But no idea of the wider society around them, how it works, what makes people from other groups in society tick. At worst, some of the 'free schools' have provided education so dire that they have had to be closed down. To be fair: the Tories were quite open about what they were going to do at the last election. And the warnings about what would happen were equally clear. This move to segregation in education was done in plain sight and lots of people voted for it.[/p][/quote]If Labour had done a better job (of both education and the country as a whole) people would have voted for them again. Nobody voted for free schools in the last election, but many people did vote to get the useless Labour Party out of office, and as a result, the Tories were able to keep to this particular manifesto promise. Take your rose glasses off. happycyclist
  • Score: 7

7:05am Tue 29 Apr 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

Totally concur with ikap22. ,isn't it time other faiths and non faiths come forward and also show some willingness to integrate with the Muslim community, Tuaheedul has and continues to work for the betterment of the WHOLE community and we should all attest to that. Rather than just jump on the bigotry band wagon, we as the indigenous population should get up our backsides and let's follow Tauheedul amongst other Muslim organisations. LET'S GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT'S DESERVED AND put our heads down and acknowledge their fantastic work. Further, on the issue of INTEGRATION they is no need to suggest that these young lads are going to run away from women and find it difficult to talk to women in their future workplaces ! What a load of codswallop.
Totally concur with ikap22. ,isn't it time other faiths and non faiths come forward and also show some willingness to integrate with the Muslim community, Tuaheedul has and continues to work for the betterment of the WHOLE community and we should all attest to that. Rather than just jump on the bigotry band wagon, we as the indigenous population should get up our backsides and let's follow Tauheedul amongst other Muslim organisations. LET'S GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT'S DESERVED AND put our heads down and acknowledge their fantastic work. Further, on the issue of INTEGRATION they is no need to suggest that these young lads are going to run away from women and find it difficult to talk to women in their future workplaces ! What a load of codswallop. Resultspeaksvolumes
  • Score: -92

10:18am Tue 29 Apr 14

CyberWala says...

ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
Why not look up the prospectus instead of just making wild assumptions. Just because there are no christians at the school there doesnt mean they aren't allowed. Any boy of any faith (or no faith) can apply to the school.

As for integration.. oh please.. that old stupid chestnut. Eton. on of the top boys' public school in the UK for nearly 500 years.... no one complains about 'integration' for them ? The same school that the current PM went to.. and so many politicians and past PMs went to.

Then there's Harrow School, Radley College, Sherborne School and Winchester College.. all top public BOYS only school.... and how about
Westminster School,Tonbridge School - Kent, Bedford School, Merchiston Castle School - Edinburgh, Loughborough Grammar School, Reed's School - Cobham, Sherborne School, Monmouth School, Stamford School, Oratory School - Reading and soooo many more ?

i dont see anyone whinging about integration for those schools ? May be they would if those schools had 'Muslim' in their school names ?

I also suggest you look at community in Blackburn.... the bigots talk about integration.... at the hospitals.. how many asian/muslim drs do your see ? How many Asian/Muslim Drs are there ? Pharmacists ? Employees at the council ? Opticians ? Heck look at who the mayor is ? Councillors ? and so on. All those whiners moaning about integration... open your eyes and see people in every day life working and mixing along side each other.

Take off those bigot glasses and appreciate what a great job the teachers are doing for the youngsters at Tauheedul. I suggest you actually find out what they actively do in the community as part of the school syllabus ( raising money for local charities etc).

Those same students will achieve top grades and go to Universities.... becoming Drs, Engineers, Pharmacists, Opticians, Lawyers, etc etc. Actively contributing to a better society.

WELL DONE TAUHEEDUL. Is that too hard to say for the bigotted nitpickers
[quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]Why not look up the prospectus instead of just making wild assumptions. Just because there are no christians at the school there doesnt mean they aren't allowed. Any boy of any faith (or no faith) can apply to the school. As for integration.. oh please.. that old stupid chestnut. Eton. on of the top boys' public school in the UK for nearly 500 years.... no one complains about 'integration' for them ? The same school that the current PM went to.. and so many politicians and past PMs went to. Then there's Harrow School, Radley College, Sherborne School and Winchester College.. all top public BOYS only school.... and how about Westminster School,Tonbridge School - Kent, Bedford School, Merchiston Castle School - Edinburgh, Loughborough Grammar School, Reed's School - Cobham, Sherborne School, Monmouth School, Stamford School, Oratory School - Reading and soooo many more ? i dont see anyone whinging about integration for those schools ? May be they would if those schools had 'Muslim' in their school names ? I also suggest you look at community in Blackburn.... the bigots talk about integration.... at the hospitals.. how many asian/muslim drs do your see ? How many Asian/Muslim Drs are there ? Pharmacists ? Employees at the council ? Opticians ? Heck look at who the mayor is ? Councillors ? and so on. All those whiners moaning about integration... open your eyes and see people in every day life working and mixing along side each other. Take off those bigot glasses and appreciate what a great job the teachers are doing for the youngsters at Tauheedul. I suggest you actually find out what they actively do in the community as part of the school syllabus ( raising money for local charities etc). Those same students will achieve top grades and go to Universities.... becoming Drs, Engineers, Pharmacists, Opticians, Lawyers, etc etc. Actively contributing to a better society. WELL DONE TAUHEEDUL. Is that too hard to say for the bigotted nitpickers CyberWala
  • Score: -78

1:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

noddy57 says...

This is the future of our country and it stinks of Elitism.The U K one day will become so fractured by its multicultural failure by promoting faith schools which inevitably creates the very problem we are trying to avoid in the first place,
This is the future of our country and it stinks of Elitism.The U K one day will become so fractured by its multicultural failure by promoting faith schools which inevitably creates the very problem we are trying to avoid in the first place, noddy57
  • Score: 72

2:00pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Ladysadie says...

Integration? I sent my kids to a school that was about 65/35 white to Asian. Within 4 years it's almost exclusively Asian! Why? The majority of the other white parents removed their kids & sent them to nearby schools with a higher white percentage because they didn't want their children mixing with the Asians too much & yes, I asked.
Integration? I sent my kids to a school that was about 65/35 white to Asian. Within 4 years it's almost exclusively Asian! Why? The majority of the other white parents removed their kids & sent them to nearby schools with a higher white percentage because they didn't want their children mixing with the Asians too much & yes, I asked. Ladysadie
  • Score: -30

3:23pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Interlocutor says...

The admission issue isn't whether boys with non-muslim parents CAN be admitted, but whether those parents will WANT to send their sons to a school that bases its ethics on the precepts of a religion to which they do not subscribe, and that may be inclined to teach as truths things that are contentious. I would not want any religion promoted to my child by a third party, nor would I wish to give my labours to a school that did that. Therefore, the pupils of faith schools stand little chance of encountering staff, or children of parents, whose outlook, like mine, is secular. This absence of diversity, whether or not by design, is a deprivation for those pupils. If no harm results it is merest good fortune.
The admission issue isn't whether boys with non-muslim parents CAN be admitted, but whether those parents will WANT to send their sons to a school that bases its ethics on the precepts of a religion to which they do not subscribe, and that may be inclined to teach as truths things that are contentious. I would not want any religion promoted to my child by a third party, nor would I wish to give my labours to a school that did that. Therefore, the pupils of faith schools stand little chance of encountering staff, or children of parents, whose outlook, like mine, is secular. This absence of diversity, whether or not by design, is a deprivation for those pupils. If no harm results it is merest good fortune. Interlocutor
  • Score: 58

4:00pm Tue 29 Apr 14

HenningBerg-er says...

Interlocutor wrote:
The admission issue isn't whether boys with non-muslim parents CAN be admitted, but whether those parents will WANT to send their sons to a school that bases its ethics on the precepts of a religion to which they do not subscribe, and that may be inclined to teach as truths things that are contentious. I would not want any religion promoted to my child by a third party, nor would I wish to give my labours to a school that did that. Therefore, the pupils of faith schools stand little chance of encountering staff, or children of parents, whose outlook, like mine, is secular. This absence of diversity, whether or not by design, is a deprivation for those pupils. If no harm results it is merest good fortune.
Your choice of not sending your children to a faith school that does not subscribe to your own beliefs is just that; your own choice. You cannot make the assumption that every parent in Blackburn with Darwen shares the same philosophy.

As I alluded to in a previous post, Asian parents have been sending their children to very decent C of E and Catholic schools in search of good education for years now.

Despite the school opening the doors for children of other or no faiths, if parents like you choose not to send their boys to excellent schools like this based on the religious ethos of the school, it is YOU refusing to integrate and YOU creating segregation.
[quote][p][bold]Interlocutor[/bold] wrote: The admission issue isn't whether boys with non-muslim parents CAN be admitted, but whether those parents will WANT to send their sons to a school that bases its ethics on the precepts of a religion to which they do not subscribe, and that may be inclined to teach as truths things that are contentious. I would not want any religion promoted to my child by a third party, nor would I wish to give my labours to a school that did that. Therefore, the pupils of faith schools stand little chance of encountering staff, or children of parents, whose outlook, like mine, is secular. This absence of diversity, whether or not by design, is a deprivation for those pupils. If no harm results it is merest good fortune.[/p][/quote]Your choice of not sending your children to a faith school that does not subscribe to your own beliefs is just that; your own choice. You cannot make the assumption that every parent in Blackburn with Darwen shares the same philosophy. As I alluded to in a previous post, Asian parents have been sending their children to very decent C of E and Catholic schools in search of good education for years now. Despite the school opening the doors for children of other or no faiths, if parents like you choose not to send their boys to excellent schools like this based on the religious ethos of the school, it is YOU refusing to integrate and YOU creating segregation. HenningBerg-er
  • Score: -61

4:28pm Tue 29 Apr 14

editor1988 says...

In conclusion, well done Tauheedul and well done to the boys.

Both the girls and boys schools run by Tauheedul make us proud. The only secondary schools in Blackburn that are rated as outstanding by Ofsted.
In conclusion, well done Tauheedul and well done to the boys. Both the girls and boys schools run by Tauheedul make us proud. The only secondary schools in Blackburn that are rated as outstanding by Ofsted. editor1988
  • Score: -60

5:07pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Bullhill says...

I have been quietly observing the Islamic school since it started. I have to admit they have raised the bar on education in Blackburn. Unfortunately they had to go on their own and achieve this.
I have been quietly observing the Islamic school since it started. I have to admit they have raised the bar on education in Blackburn. Unfortunately they had to go on their own and achieve this. Bullhill
  • Score: -63

7:23pm Tue 29 Apr 14

omega3 says...

Islamic radicalisation of the education system, paid for by the British taxpayer.
Another Birmingham.
Do not be fooled by the results.
Islamic radicalisation of the education system, paid for by the British taxpayer. Another Birmingham. Do not be fooled by the results. omega3
  • Score: 73

7:41pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Saj143 says...

omega3 wrote:
Islamic radicalisation of the education system, paid for by the British taxpayer.
Another Birmingham.
Do not be fooled by the results.
What an absolute to553r
[quote][p][bold]omega3[/bold] wrote: Islamic radicalisation of the education system, paid for by the British taxpayer. Another Birmingham. Do not be fooled by the results.[/p][/quote]What an absolute to553r Saj143
  • Score: -103

7:47pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Saj143 says...

As much as I do not agree with any Faith Schools - I must say hats off Tauheedul.

Having close working links with schools in the northwest , I know you are admired by the staff of a lot of these schools , who envy your success .

Credit where it's due , well done.
As much as I do not agree with any Faith Schools - I must say hats off Tauheedul. Having close working links with schools in the northwest , I know you are admired by the staff of a lot of these schools , who envy your success . Credit where it's due , well done. Saj143
  • Score: -73

7:48pm Tue 29 Apr 14

happycyclist says...

Interlocutor wrote:
The admission issue isn't whether boys with non-muslim parents CAN be admitted, but whether those parents will WANT to send their sons to a school that bases its ethics on the precepts of a religion to which they do not subscribe, and that may be inclined to teach as truths things that are contentious. I would not want any religion promoted to my child by a third party, nor would I wish to give my labours to a school that did that. Therefore, the pupils of faith schools stand little chance of encountering staff, or children of parents, whose outlook, like mine, is secular. This absence of diversity, whether or not by design, is a deprivation for those pupils. If no harm results it is merest good fortune.
Meanwhile, CofE schools in Blackburn serve halal school dinners to cater for Muslims...
[quote][p][bold]Interlocutor[/bold] wrote: The admission issue isn't whether boys with non-muslim parents CAN be admitted, but whether those parents will WANT to send their sons to a school that bases its ethics on the precepts of a religion to which they do not subscribe, and that may be inclined to teach as truths things that are contentious. I would not want any religion promoted to my child by a third party, nor would I wish to give my labours to a school that did that. Therefore, the pupils of faith schools stand little chance of encountering staff, or children of parents, whose outlook, like mine, is secular. This absence of diversity, whether or not by design, is a deprivation for those pupils. If no harm results it is merest good fortune.[/p][/quote]Meanwhile, CofE schools in Blackburn serve halal school dinners to cater for Muslims... happycyclist
  • Score: 89

9:54pm Tue 29 Apr 14

clarkk says...

Segregation by faith, gender or race in education is unacceptable in a modern, civilised society.
But, well done to the children, keep up the good work.
Segregation by faith, gender or race in education is unacceptable in a modern, civilised society. But, well done to the children, keep up the good work. clarkk
  • Score: 67

10:48pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

clarkk wrote:
Segregation by faith, gender or race in education is unacceptable in a modern, civilised society.
But, well done to the children, keep up the good work.
Yeh go and preach that to the royal family, PM Cameron, Tony Blair.....whoever thought you that has got his maths wrong!
[quote][p][bold]clarkk[/bold] wrote: Segregation by faith, gender or race in education is unacceptable in a modern, civilised society. But, well done to the children, keep up the good work.[/p][/quote]Yeh go and preach that to the royal family, PM Cameron, Tony Blair.....whoever thought you that has got his maths wrong! Resultspeaksvolumes
  • Score: -47

11:59pm Tue 29 Apr 14

mmcampbell says...

Was it not Blair who recently warned the world of the rise of radical Islam.
Was it not Blair who recently warned the world of the rise of radical Islam. mmcampbell
  • Score: 76

5:53am Wed 30 Apr 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

mmcampbell wrote:
Was it not Blair who recently warned the world of the rise of radical Islam.
Yeh he went to eton ! Studied in a segregated school. Any more questions ...by the way he's hands are full of blood; the fanatic recently didn't do anything but propose another war, the warmonger .
[quote][p][bold]mmcampbell[/bold] wrote: Was it not Blair who recently warned the world of the rise of radical Islam.[/p][/quote]Yeh he went to eton ! Studied in a segregated school. Any more questions ...by the way he's hands are full of blood; the fanatic recently didn't do anything but propose another war, the warmonger . Resultspeaksvolumes
  • Score: -68

6:20am Wed 30 Apr 14

Lancs Away says...

All credit if the school is achieving....just hope they make sure they teach them right from wrong, good from bad, that stealing, drugs and drink will lead to their downfall....
All credit if the school is achieving....just hope they make sure they teach them right from wrong, good from bad, that stealing, drugs and drink will lead to their downfall.... Lancs Away
  • Score: -92

10:08am Wed 30 Apr 14

davemcb says...

Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
mmcampbell wrote:
Was it not Blair who recently warned the world of the rise of radical Islam.
Yeh he went to eton ! Studied in a segregated school. Any more questions ...by the way he's hands are full of blood; the fanatic recently didn't do anything but propose another war, the warmonger .
Blair didn't go to Eton, you ingnoramus. He was educated in Scotland. He's still a repellent person, of course, but not an Old Etonian.
[quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmcampbell[/bold] wrote: Was it not Blair who recently warned the world of the rise of radical Islam.[/p][/quote]Yeh he went to eton ! Studied in a segregated school. Any more questions ...by the way he's hands are full of blood; the fanatic recently didn't do anything but propose another war, the warmonger .[/p][/quote]Blair didn't go to Eton, you ingnoramus. He was educated in Scotland. He's still a repellent person, of course, but not an Old Etonian. davemcb
  • Score: 42

11:12am Wed 30 Apr 14

e lancs says...

Tony Blair, alleged war criminal, liar and thief. Yet the majority of Lancashire Muslims vote labour. Makes you think.
Tony Blair, alleged war criminal, liar and thief. Yet the majority of Lancashire Muslims vote labour. Makes you think. e lancs
  • Score: 40

8:13pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Biscay says...

HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
[quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous Biscay
  • Score: 39

10:48pm Wed 30 Apr 14

bow1974 says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
blackburn4life wrote:
After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools.

Well Done to the Girls and Boys
This may be true as far as education goes BB4L but what about integration, where is young Master Peter Smith or Miss Pamela Smith in this excellent school, Asian children need to mix or we will continue to be a divided nation, already we have reports of schools being taken over by Muslim radicalists , how will this help our children.
I'm sorry but in my book a great glowing school should have all educational qualities which includes integration amongst different ethnic backgrounds and young males and females taught together.
I could not agree more never a truer word spoken
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackburn4life[/bold] wrote: After a terrible year for the Blackburn Local Authority (Pleckgate and Our Lady and St Johns), Tauheedul schools have restored some dignity by achieving Outstanding at their Girls and Boys Schools. Well Done to the Girls and Boys[/p][/quote]This may be true as far as education goes BB4L but what about integration, where is young Master Peter Smith or Miss Pamela Smith in this excellent school, Asian children need to mix or we will continue to be a divided nation, already we have reports of schools being taken over by Muslim radicalists , how will this help our children. I'm sorry but in my book a great glowing school should have all educational qualities which includes integration amongst different ethnic backgrounds and young males and females taught together.[/p][/quote]I could not agree more never a truer word spoken bow1974
  • Score: 36

10:54pm Wed 30 Apr 14

bow1974 says...

HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
And lets see if they get in ????
[quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]And lets see if they get in ???? bow1974
  • Score: 33

12:46am Thu 1 May 14

Saj143 says...

e lancs wrote:
Tony Blair, alleged war criminal, liar and thief. Yet the majority of Lancashire Muslims vote labour. Makes you think.
Superb !
[quote][p][bold]e lancs[/bold] wrote: Tony Blair, alleged war criminal, liar and thief. Yet the majority of Lancashire Muslims vote labour. Makes you think.[/p][/quote]Superb ! Saj143
  • Score: -70

9:53am Thu 1 May 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com
/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here! Resultspeaksvolumes
  • Score: -51

10:34am Thu 1 May 14

kettle72 says...

Blackburn, a cesspit of a town.
Divided by religion, race and village politics.
Blackburn, a cesspit of a town. Divided by religion, race and village politics. kettle72
  • Score: 31

7:39pm Thu 1 May 14

Biscay says...

Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com

/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal.

The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim.

My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths.

The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.
[quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here![/p][/quote]Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal. The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim. My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths. The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them. Biscay
  • Score: 48

8:35pm Thu 1 May 14

Graham Hartley says...

If (!) the most important aspect of education is technical achievement - by which I mean here a competent showing in public examinations - then one can 'hit the books', a practice which can surely be performed as well in the hinterlands of any atheist village as it can be in the heartlands of Muslim townships. All that need be asked of any student is to turn off the distractions (X-box - to be partisan) and to think of nothing but how one can understand THAT WHICH MUST BE UNDERSTOOD (my captalisation; ye who understand will know why I capitalise.)

One reads reports of fearful control of pupils in Muslim schools - some zealous cases reach the courts. Are such reports no more akin to the constraints which were applied in the last century (caning, slapping and the rest) and viewed with such (ersatz?) horror now?
If (!) the most important aspect of education is technical achievement - by which I mean here a competent showing in public examinations - then one can 'hit the books', a practice which can surely be performed as well in the hinterlands of any atheist village as it can be in the heartlands of Muslim townships. All that need be asked of any student is to turn off the distractions (X-box - to be partisan) and to think of nothing but how one can understand THAT WHICH MUST BE UNDERSTOOD (my captalisation; ye who understand will know why I capitalise.) One reads reports of fearful control of pupils in Muslim schools - some zealous cases reach the courts. Are such reports no more akin to the constraints which were applied in the last century (caning, slapping and the rest) and viewed with such (ersatz?) horror now? Graham Hartley
  • Score: 1

3:37pm Fri 2 May 14

Saj143 says...

Biscay wrote:
Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com


/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal.

The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim.

My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths.

The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.
What about the non Muslim staff ?
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here![/p][/quote]Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal. The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim. My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths. The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.[/p][/quote]What about the non Muslim staff ? Saj143
  • Score: -2

3:40pm Fri 2 May 14

Saj143 says...

Graham Hartley wrote:
If (!) the most important aspect of education is technical achievement - by which I mean here a competent showing in public examinations - then one can 'hit the books', a practice which can surely be performed as well in the hinterlands of any atheist village as it can be in the heartlands of Muslim townships. All that need be asked of any student is to turn off the distractions (X-box - to be partisan) and to think of nothing but how one can understand THAT WHICH MUST BE UNDERSTOOD (my captalisation; ye who understand will know why I capitalise.)

One reads reports of fearful control of pupils in Muslim schools - some zealous cases reach the courts. Are such reports no more akin to the constraints which were applied in the last century (caning, slapping and the rest) and viewed with such (ersatz?) horror now?
Depends ... The so called do gooders will always ban any form of corporal punishment. I don't think any school including Tauheedul carries out such form of "discipline".

Personally , well that's a different story.
[quote][p][bold]Graham Hartley[/bold] wrote: If (!) the most important aspect of education is technical achievement - by which I mean here a competent showing in public examinations - then one can 'hit the books', a practice which can surely be performed as well in the hinterlands of any atheist village as it can be in the heartlands of Muslim townships. All that need be asked of any student is to turn off the distractions (X-box - to be partisan) and to think of nothing but how one can understand THAT WHICH MUST BE UNDERSTOOD (my captalisation; ye who understand will know why I capitalise.) One reads reports of fearful control of pupils in Muslim schools - some zealous cases reach the courts. Are such reports no more akin to the constraints which were applied in the last century (caning, slapping and the rest) and viewed with such (ersatz?) horror now?[/p][/quote]Depends ... The so called do gooders will always ban any form of corporal punishment. I don't think any school including Tauheedul carries out such form of "discipline". Personally , well that's a different story. Saj143
  • Score: -1

3:44pm Fri 2 May 14

Saj143 says...

Biscay wrote:
Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com


/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal.

The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim.

My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths.

The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.
You know what , no matter what this school achieves it will be never enough for the likes of you. Every other school on the planet would want to be in the position Tauheedul find themselves in.

I bet you whatever you want that the majority of kids from Tauheedul go onto very good white collar jobs , more that other schools , faith or no faith.

Prove me wrong.

For the record let me reiterate that I am not an advocate for any form of faith based schools.....but credit where credit is due.
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here![/p][/quote]Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal. The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim. My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths. The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.[/p][/quote]You know what , no matter what this school achieves it will be never enough for the likes of you. Every other school on the planet would want to be in the position Tauheedul find themselves in. I bet you whatever you want that the majority of kids from Tauheedul go onto very good white collar jobs , more that other schools , faith or no faith. Prove me wrong. For the record let me reiterate that I am not an advocate for any form of faith based schools.....but credit where credit is due. Saj143
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Fri 2 May 14

Biscay says...

You keep missing the point - quite simply - the school says it is open to people of other faiths and no faith. The reality is - looking at the prospectus and vision/ mission statement - it is an Islamic school and by default you would need to be Muslim to gain a place and take a full part in school life.
I've no problem with that - that's choice - but the school shouldn't promote itself as something that it clearly can never be.
You keep missing the point - quite simply - the school says it is open to people of other faiths and no faith. The reality is - looking at the prospectus and vision/ mission statement - it is an Islamic school and by default you would need to be Muslim to gain a place and take a full part in school life. I've no problem with that - that's choice - but the school shouldn't promote itself as something that it clearly can never be. Biscay
  • Score: 0

5:33pm Fri 2 May 14

Biscay says...

Saj143 wrote:
Biscay wrote:
Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com



/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal.

The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim.

My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths.

The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.
What about the non Muslim staff ?
What about them?
[quote][p][bold]Saj143[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here![/p][/quote]Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal. The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim. My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths. The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.[/p][/quote]What about the non Muslim staff ?[/p][/quote]What about them? Biscay
  • Score: -1

12:15am Sat 3 May 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

Biscay wrote:
Saj143 wrote:
Biscay wrote:
Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com




/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal.

The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim.

My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths.

The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.
What about the non Muslim staff ?
What about them?
Rather than make ludicrous comments I would like you to pay a visit to tauheedul and see for yourself how this school is " fully immersed in a lifestyle...........
" Load of none sense , you acheive great results by a lot of effort and if that means Islam is helping them then acknowledge and raise your hat to that!
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saj143[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here![/p][/quote]Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal. The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim. My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths. The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.[/p][/quote]What about the non Muslim staff ?[/p][/quote]What about them?[/p][/quote]Rather than make ludicrous comments I would like you to pay a visit to tauheedul and see for yourself how this school is " fully immersed in a lifestyle........... " Load of none sense , you acheive great results by a lot of effort and if that means Islam is helping them then acknowledge and raise your hat to that! Resultspeaksvolumes
  • Score: 0

12:21am Sat 3 May 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
Saj143 wrote:
Biscay wrote:
Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com





/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal.

The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim.

My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths.

The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.
What about the non Muslim staff ?
What about them?
Rather than make ludicrous comments I would like you to pay a visit to tauheedul and see for yourself how this school is " fully immersed in a lifestyle...........

" Load of none sense , you acheive great results by a lot of effort and if that means Islam is helping them then acknowledge and raise your hat to that!
And if non muslim children can benefit academically at tauheedul then parents should send them there, you probably going to say now " I don't want my child to be a terrorist, hate preacher ,wife basher,fundamentalis
t ......silly illiterate bnp , edl gangster.
[quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saj143[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here![/p][/quote]Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal. The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim. My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths. The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.[/p][/quote]What about the non Muslim staff ?[/p][/quote]What about them?[/p][/quote]Rather than make ludicrous comments I would like you to pay a visit to tauheedul and see for yourself how this school is " fully immersed in a lifestyle........... " Load of none sense , you acheive great results by a lot of effort and if that means Islam is helping them then acknowledge and raise your hat to that![/p][/quote]And if non muslim children can benefit academically at tauheedul then parents should send them there, you probably going to say now " I don't want my child to be a terrorist, hate preacher ,wife basher,fundamentalis t ......silly illiterate bnp , edl gangster. Resultspeaksvolumes
  • Score: 1

12:29am Sat 3 May 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
Saj143 wrote:
Biscay wrote:
Resultspeaksvolumes wrote:
Biscay wrote:
HenningBerg-er wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
editor1988 wrote:
The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.
Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.
The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc...

Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.
Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle

I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education.

Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous
Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this
http://www.tibhs.com






/ourphilosophy

Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here!
Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal.

The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim.

My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths.

The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.
What about the non Muslim staff ?
What about them?
Rather than make ludicrous comments I would like you to pay a visit to tauheedul and see for yourself how this school is " fully immersed in a lifestyle...........


" Load of none sense , you acheive great results by a lot of effort and if that means Islam is helping them then acknowledge and raise your hat to that!
And if non muslim children can benefit academically at tauheedul then parents should send them there, you probably going to say now " I don't want my child to be a terrorist, hate preacher ,wife basher,fundamentalis

t ......silly illiterate bnp , edl gangster.
This is not the place to discuss Islam but I would recommend that if Islam is helping these guys achieve these heights then let's look into this religion through their eyes ,we might get there as well. Lol I know what the next comments going to be...my media is my Islam preacher so there!
[quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saj143[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Resultspeaksvolumes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HenningBerg-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]editor1988[/bold] wrote: The school is open to Christians as well as members of other faiths and no faith. No different to any other faith school.[/p][/quote]Absolutely nonsense, there are no Christians. They not allowed! These kids will find it very hard to integrate in the future. Editor 1988, you know lying is a sin in any faith let lone yours.[/p][/quote]The admissions policy is a public document where it is clearly stated that boys from other faiths and no faiths are welcome at this school. Very much like St Wilfred's, St Bede's etc... Many Asians have broken the trend and applied for places at C of E and Catholic schools in pursuit of a good education. It is now time for people of other faiths or no faiths to accept Tauheedul as a centre of educational excellence and apply for their sons to attend this school.[/p][/quote]Having read the vision statement for the school and the acknowledgement that Tawhid is the driving force for this vision - it is obvious that non muslim children would not be able to fully benefit from the ethos of the school without first converting to Islam and fully embracing an Islamic lifestyle I'd suggest that this is not the case with other schools such as St Wilfreds / St Bedes - where children of all faiths regardless of "lifestyle" are able to mix, integrate and receive a decent quality education. Therefore to suggest that "white" children should be applying to Tauheedal to encourage integration or that white non muslim children are able to gain places at the school is disingenuous[/p][/quote]Fool! What part of the statement did U read. Read this http://www.tibhs.com /ourphilosophy Honestly you'll never achieve even half of what tauheedul have done in a few years so just shut up all of you bigots on here![/p][/quote]Sir, I'm afraid it is you that is the fool if you truly believe that white western non Muslim children would be able to gain a place and take a full part in school life at Tauheedal. The school is Islamic - by default it requires it's pupils to be fully immersed in a lifestyle that is supportive of the tenants of Islam. This cannot be achieved by a non Muslim. My point is that it is disingenuous of the school to say that it is open to all faiths. The school is obviously excellent in terms of its academic achievements - well done to them.[/p][/quote]What about the non Muslim staff ?[/p][/quote]What about them?[/p][/quote]Rather than make ludicrous comments I would like you to pay a visit to tauheedul and see for yourself how this school is " fully immersed in a lifestyle........... " Load of none sense , you acheive great results by a lot of effort and if that means Islam is helping them then acknowledge and raise your hat to that![/p][/quote]And if non muslim children can benefit academically at tauheedul then parents should send them there, you probably going to say now " I don't want my child to be a terrorist, hate preacher ,wife basher,fundamentalis t ......silly illiterate bnp , edl gangster.[/p][/quote]This is not the place to discuss Islam but I would recommend that if Islam is helping these guys achieve these heights then let's look into this religion through their eyes ,we might get there as well. Lol I know what the next comments going to be...my media is my Islam preacher so there! Resultspeaksvolumes
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8:48am Sat 3 May 14

Biscay says...

I have actually met and spoken with a number of pupils at the Girls School - very articulate, intelligent, confident young women with a strong sense of Islamic identity and values.

I'm not an EDL gangster.

I'm simply making the point - that despite what the school may say, non-muslim children or children of no faith will not be able to gain a place at the school.
I have actually met and spoken with a number of pupils at the Girls School - very articulate, intelligent, confident young women with a strong sense of Islamic identity and values. I'm not an EDL gangster. I'm simply making the point - that despite what the school may say, non-muslim children or children of no faith will not be able to gain a place at the school. Biscay
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1:33pm Sat 3 May 14

Resultspeaksvolumes says...

Biscay wrote:
I have actually met and spoken with a number of pupils at the Girls School - very articulate, intelligent, confident young women with a strong sense of Islamic identity and values.

I'm not an EDL gangster.

I'm simply making the point - that despite what the school may say, non-muslim children or children of no faith will not be able to gain a place at the school.
Go and apply and let see what happens , you'll be treated just as everyone else
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: I have actually met and spoken with a number of pupils at the Girls School - very articulate, intelligent, confident young women with a strong sense of Islamic identity and values. I'm not an EDL gangster. I'm simply making the point - that despite what the school may say, non-muslim children or children of no faith will not be able to gain a place at the school.[/p][/quote]Go and apply and let see what happens , you'll be treated just as everyone else Resultspeaksvolumes
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9:43pm Sun 4 May 14

DGower says...

I'm led to believe that the Headteacher at this school is a non-muslim. I always thought that faith schools wanted their senior staff to be from the faith ethos the school promotes. Maybe the school doesn't promote their faith ethos that strongly after all. Maybe their academic focus far outweighs their faith focus.
I'm led to believe that the Headteacher at this school is a non-muslim. I always thought that faith schools wanted their senior staff to be from the faith ethos the school promotes. Maybe the school doesn't promote their faith ethos that strongly after all. Maybe their academic focus far outweighs their faith focus. DGower
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