500 homes get go-ahead in Barrow

500 homes get go-ahead in Barrow

500 homes get go-ahead in Barrow

First published in News

RESIDENTS said they were ‘absolutely gutted’ after a government inspector approved plans for 504 homes in Barrow.

The Barrow Lands Company Ltd submitted the application to Ribble Valley Borough Council in 2012, and it was taken straight to appeal after running out of time to go before the council’s planning committee.

The Barrow Community Action Group was formed to oppose the application relating to greenfield land at the south-west of Barrow and west of Whalley Road.

Speaking after the Planning Inspectorate gave the go-ahead, Coun Terry Hill, chairman of Ribble Valley planning committee, said: “I’m bitterly disappointed by this decision and it will completely change the face of Barrow.

“The council has played by the rules, which have been ever changing, but the developers were completely determined to force it through. It will destroy the village and it will be a completely different place.”

Sarah Parry, an action group member, said: “I’m absolutely gutted by this decision and we have been totally let down by the council. There is nothing more that we could have done and the council’s representatives were completely outplayed at the appeal hearing.

“The character of Barrow will totally change and people have already started moving out of the village because of the developments being passed.”

The decision comes after 43 homes were approved on the Hanson Garden Centre site, in the village, but the owners said it was an ‘insurance policy’, depending on how the business fares. A further 102 homes for the village were also passed recently. Alongside the costs for fighting the appeal, the council will have to pay costs tow-ards the hearing. Nobody from The Barrow Lands Company was available for comment.

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11:33am Tue 25 Feb 14

charmed-one says...

Yet again, local residents are facing the consequences of the completely inept RVBC Planning Department's failure to have a valid Core Strategy in place, with which they would have a much stronger case for dismissing such developments. For such a tiny village to have more than 600 homes dumped on it, is appalling. The majority of the initial quota of 4000 houses, are now in Clitheroe, Whalley and Barrow. Indeed, the Govt Inspector who scrutinised the latest joke version of the CS said it was unfair to make Clitheroe take almost half of them. Why can't the other villages in the RV take some, say 50 in each? Or have deals been put in place to protect these areas???

It's high time John Macholc, Colin Hirst and the Leader and Deputy Leader of RVBC (who are in effect, in charge of these men) did the honourable thing and resign - we deserve to have someone who knows what they are doing.
Yet again, local residents are facing the consequences of the completely inept RVBC Planning Department's failure to have a valid Core Strategy in place, with which they would have a much stronger case for dismissing such developments. For such a tiny village to have more than 600 homes dumped on it, is appalling. The majority of the initial quota of 4000 houses, are now in Clitheroe, Whalley and Barrow. Indeed, the Govt Inspector who scrutinised the latest joke version of the CS said it was unfair to make Clitheroe take almost half of them. Why can't the other villages in the RV take some, say 50 in each? Or have deals been put in place to protect these areas??? It's high time John Macholc, Colin Hirst and the Leader and Deputy Leader of RVBC (who are in effect, in charge of these men) did the honourable thing and resign - we deserve to have someone who knows what they are doing. charmed-one
  • Score: 23

12:39pm Tue 25 Feb 14

flagstone says...

Absolute disgrace , Barrow , Whalley, and Billington all having huge amounts of houses forcedly / built , with all villagers in all three apposing these plans These villages are being systematically destroyed and changed forever, with empty shops with living accommodation lying empty ..... R.V.B.C YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED !!!!
Absolute disgrace , Barrow , Whalley, and Billington all having huge amounts of houses forcedly / built , with all villagers in all three apposing these plans These villages are being systematically destroyed and changed forever, with empty shops with living accommodation lying empty ..... R.V.B.C YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED !!!! flagstone
  • Score: 16

12:53pm Tue 25 Feb 14

charmed-one says...

charmed-one wrote:
Yet again, local residents are facing the consequences of the completely inept RVBC Planning Department's failure to have a valid Core Strategy in place, with which they would have a much stronger case for dismissing such developments. For such a tiny village to have more than 600 homes dumped on it, is appalling. The majority of the initial quota of 4000 houses, are now in Clitheroe, Whalley and Barrow. Indeed, the Govt Inspector who scrutinised the latest joke version of the CS said it was unfair to make Clitheroe take almost half of them. Why can't the other villages in the RV take some, say 50 in each? Or have deals been put in place to protect these areas???

It's high time John Macholc, Colin Hirst and the Leader and Deputy Leader of RVBC (who are in effect, in charge of these men) did the honourable thing and resign - we deserve to have someone who knows what they are doing.
And how on earth could it have 'run out of time to go before the council's planning committee'??????

Complete incompetence.
[quote][p][bold]charmed-one[/bold] wrote: Yet again, local residents are facing the consequences of the completely inept RVBC Planning Department's failure to have a valid Core Strategy in place, with which they would have a much stronger case for dismissing such developments. For such a tiny village to have more than 600 homes dumped on it, is appalling. The majority of the initial quota of 4000 houses, are now in Clitheroe, Whalley and Barrow. Indeed, the Govt Inspector who scrutinised the latest joke version of the CS said it was unfair to make Clitheroe take almost half of them. Why can't the other villages in the RV take some, say 50 in each? Or have deals been put in place to protect these areas??? It's high time John Macholc, Colin Hirst and the Leader and Deputy Leader of RVBC (who are in effect, in charge of these men) did the honourable thing and resign - we deserve to have someone who knows what they are doing.[/p][/quote]And how on earth could it have 'run out of time to go before the council's planning committee'?????? Complete incompetence. charmed-one
  • Score: 15

12:56pm Tue 25 Feb 14

charmed-one says...

charmed-one wrote:
Yet again, local residents are facing the consequences of the completely inept RVBC Planning Department's failure to have a valid Core Strategy in place, with which they would have a much stronger case for dismissing such developments. For such a tiny village to have more than 600 homes dumped on it, is appalling. The majority of the initial quota of 4000 houses, are now in Clitheroe, Whalley and Barrow. Indeed, the Govt Inspector who scrutinised the latest joke version of the CS said it was unfair to make Clitheroe take almost half of them. Why can't the other villages in the RV take some, say 50 in each? Or have deals been put in place to protect these areas???

It's high time John Macholc, Colin Hirst and the Leader and Deputy Leader of RVBC (who are in effect, in charge of these men) did the honourable thing and resign - we deserve to have someone who knows what they are doing.
And how on earth can it have 'run out of time to go before the council's planning committee'??????? Pure incompetence
[quote][p][bold]charmed-one[/bold] wrote: Yet again, local residents are facing the consequences of the completely inept RVBC Planning Department's failure to have a valid Core Strategy in place, with which they would have a much stronger case for dismissing such developments. For such a tiny village to have more than 600 homes dumped on it, is appalling. The majority of the initial quota of 4000 houses, are now in Clitheroe, Whalley and Barrow. Indeed, the Govt Inspector who scrutinised the latest joke version of the CS said it was unfair to make Clitheroe take almost half of them. Why can't the other villages in the RV take some, say 50 in each? Or have deals been put in place to protect these areas??? It's high time John Macholc, Colin Hirst and the Leader and Deputy Leader of RVBC (who are in effect, in charge of these men) did the honourable thing and resign - we deserve to have someone who knows what they are doing.[/p][/quote]And how on earth can it have 'run out of time to go before the council's planning committee'??????? Pure incompetence charmed-one
  • Score: 14

3:51pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Noiticer says...

If this development is to go ahead why not make the developer pay for a new railway station by adding the cost to each house built?
If this development is to go ahead why not make the developer pay for a new railway station by adding the cost to each house built? Noiticer
  • Score: 8

5:45pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Steve Rush says...

The 504 house development was approved, by the Secretary of State dept which is headed by Eric Pickles. He was recently described by a flood victim as making a 'good sandbag'. I'm sure the residents of Barrow, who will see their village triple in size and destroyed by this decision, would have preferred Pickles to have taken up the invite.

Yes 504 new houses in Barrow and no Environmental Impact Assessment. This application broke nearly every rule in the National Planning Policy Framework and villagers unanimously opposed the plan. In this current 'Localism' climate I suppose the decision was a foregone conclusion!!!

Whilst Barrow do no fall under CRAG jurisdiction they are our next door neighbours and this ludicrous decision will affect Clitheroe and Whalley. Tribute should be paid to the hard work of numerous residents who contributed many hours of their spare time and worked tirelessly opposing this development. What a shame their efforts were not matched by RVBC planning dept whose attempts to stop development can best be described as feeble!!!
The 504 house development was approved, by the Secretary of State dept which is headed by Eric Pickles. He was recently described by a flood victim as making a 'good sandbag'. I'm sure the residents of Barrow, who will see their village triple in size and destroyed by this decision, would have preferred Pickles to have taken up the invite. Yes 504 new houses in Barrow and no Environmental Impact Assessment. This application broke nearly every rule in the National Planning Policy Framework and villagers unanimously opposed the plan. In this current 'Localism' climate I suppose the decision was a foregone conclusion!!! Whilst Barrow do no fall under CRAG jurisdiction they are our next door neighbours and this ludicrous decision will affect Clitheroe and Whalley. Tribute should be paid to the hard work of numerous residents who contributed many hours of their spare time and worked tirelessly opposing this development. What a shame their efforts were not matched by RVBC planning dept whose attempts to stop development can best be described as feeble!!! Steve Rush
  • Score: 13

6:43pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Ever had that feeling that you have been shafted?
Ever had that feeling that you have been shafted? Michael@ClitheroeSince58
  • Score: 5

7:23pm Tue 25 Feb 14

shytalk says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Ever had that feeling that you have been shafted?
Yes but it's always nice to be able to feel it..... Otherwise there is no point...
The best thing the residents of Barrow can do now is to cut their losses and run. Take the pictures and memories accept a drop in the house value, and move out to somewhere that has more sensible planning. But do it when you have voted for someone other than the clowns that have ruined the Ribble valley.
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Ever had that feeling that you have been shafted?[/p][/quote]Yes but it's always nice to be able to feel it..... Otherwise there is no point... The best thing the residents of Barrow can do now is to cut their losses and run. Take the pictures and memories accept a drop in the house value, and move out to somewhere that has more sensible planning. But do it when you have voted for someone other than the clowns that have ruined the Ribble valley. shytalk
  • Score: 2

8:37pm Tue 25 Feb 14

not too old to care says...

New Houses mean increased Council Tax Revenue.
25% of which will drop into the Council Employees Pension Fund.
Did anyone seriously doubt the Planning decision.
New Houses mean increased Council Tax Revenue. 25% of which will drop into the Council Employees Pension Fund. Did anyone seriously doubt the Planning decision. not too old to care
  • Score: 2

12:42am Wed 26 Feb 14

willie eckerslike says...

You can bet your life that these folk who are now screaming about this, will of course have voted tory at the last council elections, and will of course be doing so AGAIN next time round, so you have got what you voted for and how can you complain about that is beyond belief.
You can bet your life that these folk who are now screaming about this, will of course have voted tory at the last council elections, and will of course be doing so AGAIN next time round, so you have got what you voted for and how can you complain about that is beyond belief. willie eckerslike
  • Score: -2

12:56am Wed 26 Feb 14

willie eckerslike says...

Coming very soon, "BOOM TOWN" CLITHEROE, bet these shopkeepers are rubbing their hands already, ten thousand new punters in one swoop, ribble valley folk don't know how lucky they are getting all these new houses, it will keep these villages ( soon to be towns ) ticking over quite nicely, for generations to come, these places will never be the same again, but these people who are against these massive developments should remember that THEIR homes were built on green fields once,the conservatives are correct in putting these houses in a rock soild tory constituency, as they just would not dare risking putting them in a marginal.
Coming very soon, "BOOM TOWN" CLITHEROE, bet these shopkeepers are rubbing their hands already, ten thousand new punters in one swoop, ribble valley folk don't know how lucky they are getting all these new houses, it will keep these villages ( soon to be towns ) ticking over quite nicely, for generations to come, these places will never be the same again, but these people who are against these massive developments should remember that THEIR homes were built on green fields once,the conservatives are correct in putting these houses in a rock soild tory constituency, as they just would not dare risking putting them in a marginal. willie eckerslike
  • Score: -12

10:04am Wed 26 Feb 14

shytalk says...

willie eckerslike wrote:
Coming very soon, "BOOM TOWN" CLITHEROE, bet these shopkeepers are rubbing their hands already, ten thousand new punters in one swoop, ribble valley folk don't know how lucky they are getting all these new houses, it will keep these villages ( soon to be towns ) ticking over quite nicely, for generations to come, these places will never be the same again, but these people who are against these massive developments should remember that THEIR homes were built on green fields once,the conservatives are correct in putting these houses in a rock soild tory constituency, as they just would not dare risking putting them in a marginal.
Obviously you don't live in Clitheroe or the Ribble valley willie...But yep there are many tory voters who i would imagine are not so happy about what has happened.
The fact is if Cameron had stuck to his election promise about immigration then there wouldn't be this problem of over development.
[quote][p][bold]willie eckerslike[/bold] wrote: Coming very soon, "BOOM TOWN" CLITHEROE, bet these shopkeepers are rubbing their hands already, ten thousand new punters in one swoop, ribble valley folk don't know how lucky they are getting all these new houses, it will keep these villages ( soon to be towns ) ticking over quite nicely, for generations to come, these places will never be the same again, but these people who are against these massive developments should remember that THEIR homes were built on green fields once,the conservatives are correct in putting these houses in a rock soild tory constituency, as they just would not dare risking putting them in a marginal.[/p][/quote]Obviously you don't live in Clitheroe or the Ribble valley willie...But yep there are many tory voters who i would imagine are not so happy about what has happened. The fact is if Cameron had stuck to his election promise about immigration then there wouldn't be this problem of over development. shytalk
  • Score: 6

10:34am Wed 26 Feb 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below:

This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m.

The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'.

James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are.

The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously.
The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below: This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m. The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'. James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are. The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 8

1:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

Steve Rush wrote:
The 504 house development was approved, by the Secretary of State dept which is headed by Eric Pickles. He was recently described by a flood victim as making a 'good sandbag'. I'm sure the residents of Barrow, who will see their village triple in size and destroyed by this decision, would have preferred Pickles to have taken up the invite.

Yes 504 new houses in Barrow and no Environmental Impact Assessment. This application broke nearly every rule in the National Planning Policy Framework and villagers unanimously opposed the plan. In this current 'Localism' climate I suppose the decision was a foregone conclusion!!!

Whilst Barrow do no fall under CRAG jurisdiction they are our next door neighbours and this ludicrous decision will affect Clitheroe and Whalley. Tribute should be paid to the hard work of numerous residents who contributed many hours of their spare time and worked tirelessly opposing this development. What a shame their efforts were not matched by RVBC planning dept whose attempts to stop development can best be described as feeble!!!
A good outcome would be for Mr Pickles to choke on his next pork pie and contribute to the environment he is destroying by decomposing. He truly is an oxygen thief along with the abhorrent Nick Boles.
[quote][p][bold]Steve Rush[/bold] wrote: The 504 house development was approved, by the Secretary of State dept which is headed by Eric Pickles. He was recently described by a flood victim as making a 'good sandbag'. I'm sure the residents of Barrow, who will see their village triple in size and destroyed by this decision, would have preferred Pickles to have taken up the invite. Yes 504 new houses in Barrow and no Environmental Impact Assessment. This application broke nearly every rule in the National Planning Policy Framework and villagers unanimously opposed the plan. In this current 'Localism' climate I suppose the decision was a foregone conclusion!!! Whilst Barrow do no fall under CRAG jurisdiction they are our next door neighbours and this ludicrous decision will affect Clitheroe and Whalley. Tribute should be paid to the hard work of numerous residents who contributed many hours of their spare time and worked tirelessly opposing this development. What a shame their efforts were not matched by RVBC planning dept whose attempts to stop development can best be described as feeble!!![/p][/quote]A good outcome would be for Mr Pickles to choke on his next pork pie and contribute to the environment he is destroying by decomposing. He truly is an oxygen thief along with the abhorrent Nick Boles. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 2

5:25pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Birtrumthegreat wrote:
The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below:

This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m.

The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'.

James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are.

The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously.
Something strange has happened around the lodge near McDonald's the whole lot is now double yellow lined so now you can not even park and have a walk round the lodge, really annoyed as it's a nice place for a stroll. I wonder if the above mentioned Mr Hugh Geddes is behind this move as well?
[quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below: This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m. The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'. James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are. The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously.[/p][/quote]Something strange has happened around the lodge near McDonald's the whole lot is now double yellow lined so now you can not even park and have a walk round the lodge, really annoyed as it's a nice place for a stroll. I wonder if the above mentioned Mr Hugh Geddes is behind this move as well? Michael@ClitheroeSince58
  • Score: 2

7:10pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Birtrumthegreat wrote:
The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below:

This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m.

The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'.

James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are.

The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously.
Something strange has happened around the lodge near McDonald's the whole lot is now double yellow lined so now you can not even park and have a walk round the lodge, really annoyed as it's a nice place for a stroll. I wonder if the above mentioned Mr Hugh Geddes is behind this move as well?
The double yellow lines are just another example of how Lancashire Highways and RV planning couldn't run a 'you know what' in a brewery. They have promoted this area as a major services centre, hence it figures highly in the 'laugh a minute' core strategy document, recently rejected by the government inspectors. Sadly this description means that Barrow can grow by up to 45%, as opposed to other villages that must take 25% of the housing. These figures will probably be on top of the 330% growth Barrow is about to receive, when all the new planning applications go through (304 properties in 2010 to 1057 already approved and more still outstanding)

Historically the enterprise area was designated as employment land, but as there wasn't any takers, it was redeveloped for housing and as a brown field site this was OK. They now want to encourage companies to relocate to the areas, as an excuse for 5,000 + homes to be built in the borough. This ad hoc approach to planning ,means that they have created the only mixed executive housing/ industrial estate in Britain. Even Lord Leverhulme, when he build Port Sunlight over a hundred years ago, had the intelligence to keep housing and work places separate. Something lost on the single cell creatures in our town council. Furthermore as the area is listed as a service centre, HGV's pull in here expecting all the facilities of other truck stops, such as showers, HGV compatible fuel pumps and women of the night etc. Instead they they discover that all that is available is a Ginsters pasty and a McPoo, even the diesel pumps are the wrong type, designed for cars instead. The double yellow lines have now forced the overnight trucks down onto the housing estate, so the owners of the £320K + houses are now greeted with the sight of some foreign truck driver doing his morning thing on their lawns in the morning. It's a sad state of affairs which has to end.
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below: This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m. The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'. James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are. The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously.[/p][/quote]Something strange has happened around the lodge near McDonald's the whole lot is now double yellow lined so now you can not even park and have a walk round the lodge, really annoyed as it's a nice place for a stroll. I wonder if the above mentioned Mr Hugh Geddes is behind this move as well?[/p][/quote]The double yellow lines are just another example of how Lancashire Highways and RV planning couldn't run a 'you know what' in a brewery. They have promoted this area as a major services centre, hence it figures highly in the 'laugh a minute' core strategy document, recently rejected by the government inspectors. Sadly this description means that Barrow can grow by up to 45%, as opposed to other villages that must take 25% of the housing. These figures will probably be on top of the 330% growth Barrow is about to receive, when all the new planning applications go through (304 properties in 2010 to 1057 already approved and more still outstanding) Historically the enterprise area was designated as employment land, but as there wasn't any takers, it was redeveloped for housing and as a brown field site this was OK. They now want to encourage companies to relocate to the areas, as an excuse for 5,000 + homes to be built in the borough. This ad hoc approach to planning ,means that they have created the only mixed executive housing/ industrial estate in Britain. Even Lord Leverhulme, when he build Port Sunlight over a hundred years ago, had the intelligence to keep housing and work places separate. Something lost on the single cell creatures in our town council. Furthermore as the area is listed as a service centre, HGV's pull in here expecting all the facilities of other truck stops, such as showers, HGV compatible fuel pumps and women of the night etc. Instead they they discover that all that is available is a Ginsters pasty and a McPoo, even the diesel pumps are the wrong type, designed for cars instead. The double yellow lines have now forced the overnight trucks down onto the housing estate, so the owners of the £320K + houses are now greeted with the sight of some foreign truck driver doing his morning thing on their lawns in the morning. It's a sad state of affairs which has to end. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 6

8:00pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Birtrumthegreat wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin

ce58
wrote:
Birtrumthegreat wrote:
The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below:

This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m.

The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'.

James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are.

The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously.
Something strange has happened around the lodge near McDonald's the whole lot is now double yellow lined so now you can not even park and have a walk round the lodge, really annoyed as it's a nice place for a stroll. I wonder if the above mentioned Mr Hugh Geddes is behind this move as well?
The double yellow lines are just another example of how Lancashire Highways and RV planning couldn't run a 'you know what' in a brewery. They have promoted this area as a major services centre, hence it figures highly in the 'laugh a minute' core strategy document, recently rejected by the government inspectors. Sadly this description means that Barrow can grow by up to 45%, as opposed to other villages that must take 25% of the housing. These figures will probably be on top of the 330% growth Barrow is about to receive, when all the new planning applications go through (304 properties in 2010 to 1057 already approved and more still outstanding)

Historically the enterprise area was designated as employment land, but as there wasn't any takers, it was redeveloped for housing and as a brown field site this was OK. They now want to encourage companies to relocate to the areas, as an excuse for 5,000 + homes to be built in the borough. This ad hoc approach to planning ,means that they have created the only mixed executive housing/ industrial estate in Britain. Even Lord Leverhulme, when he build Port Sunlight over a hundred years ago, had the intelligence to keep housing and work places separate. Something lost on the single cell creatures in our town council. Furthermore as the area is listed as a service centre, HGV's pull in here expecting all the facilities of other truck stops, such as showers, HGV compatible fuel pumps and women of the night etc. Instead they they discover that all that is available is a Ginsters pasty and a McPoo, even the diesel pumps are the wrong type, designed for cars instead. The double yellow lines have now forced the overnight trucks down onto the housing estate, so the owners of the £320K + houses are now greeted with the sight of some foreign truck driver doing his morning thing on their lawns in the morning. It's a sad state of affairs which has to end.
I'm so angry I think I will go do a dump on some ones lawn as well ;)
Thanks for the help making sense of this madness!
[quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: The site has already been advertised on Lambert Smith Hampton's pages see below: This A 45-acre greenfield site will be marketed to house builders in the summer, after Communities Secretary Eric Pickles backed the development of 504 homes. Developer Barrow Lands Company first proposed the scheme in Barrow, near Whalley, in June 2012 but met with strong opposition from local residents. The planning application was rejected by Ribble Valley Council. Following a public inquiry, an inspector recommended that the plans be approved; this was upheld by the Communities Secretary this week. The developer's planning adviser, Duncan Chadwick, partner at David Lock Associates, confirmed that the decision would now enter a formal judicial review period before the site would be put on the market in summer 2014. Outline plans for the scheme include 504 units in addition to associated development and potential for a new Barrow Railway Station. Chadwick said: "It has been a very long journey to reach this point and our client is looking at options to bring the site forward for development as soon as possible. There should be some activity around June." A residential agent suggested the sale value for the site could be between £400,000 and £500,000 per acre, giving a total value of between £18m and £22m. The truth is that this is all about greed on the behalf of Mr Hugh Geddes, who bought 240 hectares of land around Barrow for approximately £250K and has already made millions from the site near McDonalds. He lives in London and has friends within the House of Lords. He doesn't give two hoots about what happens in our region, we are just northern peasants as far as he is concerned. I sincerely believe that due to his links with the Conservative party, it's a case of thanks for your vote Ribble Valley, now bend over and take what's coming to you. Moreover the slogan banded around by David Cameron before the general election was 'We are in it together' when really it should have said 'We are in it for the few'. James Maurici QC, who fought the case for the equally obnoxious Mr Geddes, stated that congestion in Whalley can be avoided if we all learn to use public transport. If it's good enough for him living in Central London it should be good enough for us. It's simply a case of educating us locals to leave our cars at home. Well thanks for that little life changing nugget of advice, now run along and crawl back under your stone, like the clever creature you are. The whole situation wasn't helped by the 'Dad's Army' approach of Ribble Valleys planning team, headed by John Macholc and Stuart Hirst. If these buffoons had done their jobs properly, we would have a structure approach to planning and not a free for all. The sooner they clear their desks, the better off we will all be. If you believe this statement to be a little harsh, take a look at their track record: They have lost every housing appeal so far, yet the one they said couldn't be won at Waddow View, was left for the local residents to fight and they won it victoriously.[/p][/quote]Something strange has happened around the lodge near McDonald's the whole lot is now double yellow lined so now you can not even park and have a walk round the lodge, really annoyed as it's a nice place for a stroll. I wonder if the above mentioned Mr Hugh Geddes is behind this move as well?[/p][/quote]The double yellow lines are just another example of how Lancashire Highways and RV planning couldn't run a 'you know what' in a brewery. They have promoted this area as a major services centre, hence it figures highly in the 'laugh a minute' core strategy document, recently rejected by the government inspectors. Sadly this description means that Barrow can grow by up to 45%, as opposed to other villages that must take 25% of the housing. These figures will probably be on top of the 330% growth Barrow is about to receive, when all the new planning applications go through (304 properties in 2010 to 1057 already approved and more still outstanding) Historically the enterprise area was designated as employment land, but as there wasn't any takers, it was redeveloped for housing and as a brown field site this was OK. They now want to encourage companies to relocate to the areas, as an excuse for 5,000 + homes to be built in the borough. This ad hoc approach to planning ,means that they have created the only mixed executive housing/ industrial estate in Britain. Even Lord Leverhulme, when he build Port Sunlight over a hundred years ago, had the intelligence to keep housing and work places separate. Something lost on the single cell creatures in our town council. Furthermore as the area is listed as a service centre, HGV's pull in here expecting all the facilities of other truck stops, such as showers, HGV compatible fuel pumps and women of the night etc. Instead they they discover that all that is available is a Ginsters pasty and a McPoo, even the diesel pumps are the wrong type, designed for cars instead. The double yellow lines have now forced the overnight trucks down onto the housing estate, so the owners of the £320K + houses are now greeted with the sight of some foreign truck driver doing his morning thing on their lawns in the morning. It's a sad state of affairs which has to end.[/p][/quote]I'm so angry I think I will go do a dump on some ones lawn as well ;) Thanks for the help making sense of this madness! Michael@ClitheroeSince58
  • Score: 2

12:57am Mon 3 Mar 14

Kiwihead says...

Fantastic stuff. Glad I'm 12000 miles away.
Fantastic stuff. Glad I'm 12000 miles away. Kiwihead
  • Score: 1

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