Blackburn with Darwen council backs smoking in cars ban

Blackburn with Darwen council backs smoking in cars ban

Blackburn with Darwen council backs smoking in cars ban

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HEALTH bosses at Blackburn with Darwen Council have welcomed House of Lords support to ban parents from smoking in cars carrying young children.

The council pointed to research by the British Lung Foundation which showed around half a million 11-15 year olds are exposed to secondhand smoke in family cars every week.

Peers also supported key amendments to the Children and Families Bill on standardised packaging, as well as an amendment to make it an offence to purchase tobacco on behalf of under 18s and to sell e-cigarettes to under 18s.

Coun Mohammed Khan, executive member for health and adult social care, said: “I welcome this decision. Cigarette smoke contains more than 4,000 chemicals, 60 of which we know cause cancer.

“Hundreds of children suffering the effects of second-hand smoke are admitted to hospital every year with complications such as bronchitis, asthma and reduced lung function. We want to highlight this issue with parents.”

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10:53am Tue 4 Feb 14

Casper's mum says...

Firstly, mobile phone use in cars is banned yet insn't enforced as I see plenty of drivers using them. Therefore I doubt banning cigarettes in cars will also be unenforceable.
Secondly, if people should not be smoking in cars with children due to health effects, they should also not be smoking in homes with children. Will this be the next thing to be banned?

Alsoo we really need to tell parents/adults how to behave around their children?
Firstly, mobile phone use in cars is banned yet insn't enforced as I see plenty of drivers using them. Therefore I doubt banning cigarettes in cars will also be unenforceable. Secondly, if people should not be smoking in cars with children due to health effects, they should also not be smoking in homes with children. Will this be the next thing to be banned? Alsoo we really need to tell parents/adults how to behave around their children? Casper's mum
  • Score: 11

3:30pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Raven says...

First of all, I think that they should ban cars instead, here are some facts, there are now less smokers than there were 50 years ago, and yet the amount of asthma sufferers has tripled, what else has tripled? the amount of cars on the roads, so the next time you get in your cars, just think of all the suffering and illness you are causing..... but oh no, they wont get rid of their precious cars, oh no, god forbid, let them suffer
First of all, I think that they should ban cars instead, here are some facts, there are now less smokers than there were 50 years ago, and yet the amount of asthma sufferers has tripled, what else has tripled? the amount of cars on the roads, so the next time you get in your cars, just think of all the suffering and illness you are causing..... but oh no, they wont get rid of their precious cars, oh no, god forbid, let them suffer Raven
  • Score: 6

4:20pm Tue 4 Feb 14

mmickk says...

What is the point in this the people that do this will not stop if it becomes law. Fine them and they will not pay it. They should be prosecuted for child cruelty and have there kids taken off them. Ban it in cars will not stop the kids living in a cloud of smoke at home. If you are willing to smoke in a car full of kids you do not give a toss and are unfit to be a parent. Just remember kids are for life not just for benefits!! And that is the sort that smoke in cars.
What is the point in this the people that do this will not stop if it becomes law. Fine them and they will not pay it. They should be prosecuted for child cruelty and have there kids taken off them. Ban it in cars will not stop the kids living in a cloud of smoke at home. If you are willing to smoke in a car full of kids you do not give a toss and are unfit to be a parent. Just remember kids are for life not just for benefits!! And that is the sort that smoke in cars. mmickk
  • Score: -5

6:29pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

You are going about this all wrong, encourage people to change life styles but don't use Jack Boots to do it. You are just creating a hardcore of people that no longer listen and think you are a joke.
You are going about this all wrong, encourage people to change life styles but don't use Jack Boots to do it. You are just creating a hardcore of people that no longer listen and think you are a joke. Michael@ClitheroeSince58
  • Score: 11

7:04pm Tue 4 Feb 14

BuckoTheMoose says...

That's a nice little soundbite, Councillor Khan. Can you name any of these 4000 chemicals and tell us what quantities of each exist in cigarettes?

You obviously have not looked into this yourself, you're just quoting what you've heard tobacco controllers say. These chemicals exist in tobacco in such low quantities as to be irrelevant. It just sounds good to say '4000 chemicals' as it sounds scary.

So does, “Hundreds of children suffering the effects of second-hand smoke are admitted to hospital every year". Children may be admitted to hospital with various lung diseases, but to say they are second hand smoke related is simply extrapolating from statistics. Tobacco controllers believe SHS should cause these diseases so they attribute a certain number of admissions for them to SHS with no evidence.

It's typical tobacco control tactics. Evidence free assertions and scary soundbites, and people like you lap it up. The trouble is, people like are are in positions to do a lot of harm by backing knee jerk restrictions and legislation.

At most, it's inconsiderate to smoke in a car with a non smoker. We certainly don't need more laws to stop it. We have more than enough laws already.

Give it a rest.
That's a nice little soundbite, Councillor Khan. Can you name any of these 4000 chemicals and tell us what quantities of each exist in cigarettes? You obviously have not looked into this yourself, you're just quoting what you've heard tobacco controllers say. These chemicals exist in tobacco in such low quantities as to be irrelevant. It just sounds good to say '4000 chemicals' as it sounds scary. So does, “Hundreds of children suffering the effects of second-hand smoke are admitted to hospital every year". Children may be admitted to hospital with various lung diseases, but to say they are second hand smoke related is simply extrapolating from statistics. Tobacco controllers believe SHS should cause these diseases so they attribute a certain number of admissions for them to SHS with no evidence. It's typical tobacco control tactics. Evidence free assertions and scary soundbites, and people like you lap it up. The trouble is, people like are are in positions to do a lot of harm by backing knee jerk restrictions and legislation. At most, it's inconsiderate to smoke in a car with a non smoker. We certainly don't need more laws to stop it. We have more than enough laws already. Give it a rest. BuckoTheMoose
  • Score: 2

7:04pm Wed 5 Feb 14

happycyclist says...

4,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke? Give over.

How many are in car exhaust fumes then, Professor Khan?
4,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke? Give over. How many are in car exhaust fumes then, Professor Khan? happycyclist
  • Score: 3

7:53pm Wed 5 Feb 14

woolywords says...

Like a line from an episode of The Simpsons, someone wrings their hands and, in an high pitched voice wails, 'Oh why doesn't anyone think of the children?'

The sad fact of the matter is, some of us do think about the children, more than 'Health bosses' do, for a fact. And, here are my list of concerns, perhaps heath chiefs may want to consider them.
Children do not get enough PE in school.
Children are more poorly nourished than ever before.
(Of both extremes, being malnourished and obese.)
Children no longer walk to and from school, where they are able.
Children rarely wear seatbelts in the car.
Children will often be crammed in car, more than the number of seats.
Children are exposed to large amounts of Carbon Monoxide near school.

We both have our sets of facts and figures, which begs the question, what do you propose to do about it? Or are you just another of these windbag politicians, out to get your name in the paper, to show the deluded electorate that you are 'doing something'? The cynic in me, begins to wonder if there is an election in the offing or something, with all these bloated blimps, floating around like an Air Raid Precautions convention.
There's been nothing mentioned in the LT but that means nothing, does it...
Like a line from an episode of The Simpsons, someone wrings their hands and, in an high pitched voice wails, 'Oh why doesn't anyone think of the children?' The sad fact of the matter is, some of us do think about the children, more than 'Health bosses' do, for a fact. And, here are my list of concerns, perhaps heath chiefs may want to consider them. Children do not get enough PE in school. Children are more poorly nourished than ever before. (Of both extremes, being malnourished and obese.) Children no longer walk to and from school, where they are able. Children rarely wear seatbelts in the car. Children will often be crammed in car, more than the number of seats. Children are exposed to large amounts of Carbon Monoxide near school. We both have our sets of facts and figures, which begs the question, what do you propose to do about it? Or are you just another of these windbag politicians, out to get your name in the paper, to show the deluded electorate that you are 'doing something'? The cynic in me, begins to wonder if there is an election in the offing or something, with all these bloated blimps, floating around like an Air Raid Precautions convention. There's been nothing mentioned in the LT but that means nothing, does it... woolywords
  • Score: 2

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