Hyndburn recycling switch would be massive expense

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CALLS for recycling bags to be replaced by heavier wheelie bins have been rejected.

Heavy winds have caused the bags to empty their contents, leaving litter strewn across streets and neighbourhoods.

Angry residents bombarded Hyndburn Council with complaints, demanding the introduction of wheelie bins, Rishton councillor Ken Moss said.

He said six new recycling trucks were not able to collect waste from wheelie bins, and a new scheme would cost millions.

He said: “Any change could only take place after [the trucks] are replaced in six years, unless the council took the hit on the cost of new vehicles before that date.

“If we were to go with wheeled bins, then each property would have to have a minimum of two extra bins, with an estimated cost of £1.5 million.

“In addition, the vehicles needed to lift wheeled bins are different.

“We would need four, which would cost around £650,000.

“Mixing the recycling together would affect the income we currently receive for keeping it separate. This is unknown as we would need to find an outlet that could split the materials apart, and this would lead to an estimated £50,000-plus loss of income every year.”

Coun Moss said money from the Lancashire County Council would also be at risk, which could cost a further £60,000.

He added: “Broken down, this equates to an initial start-up cost of approximately £2.15m with annual cost of £110,000, plus further staff costs for extra crews.

“At this time, the council could not afford to absorb this and the extra cost in lost revenue alone is higher than could be raised in taxes.

“Council tax rises are currently capped at two per cent, and such a move to combined recycling would require a tax rise of between 15 and 20 per cent.”

Cabinet member for environmental services, Paul Cox, said: “Although combined recycling is extremely desirable, we just cannot afford to do it with the severity of the cuts being imposed by central government.

“This is only going to get worse in the coming years so, unfortunately, the current system will remain in place for the foreseeable future."

The council also confirmed it would not restore weekly bin collections, after communities secretary Eric Pickles warned councils that didn’t do so could face further funding cuts.

Just one local authority — out of 216 — has reverted to weekly collections, and Hyndburn Council said the annual cost of doing so would exceed £500,000.

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5:29pm Fri 17 Jan 14

phil kernot says...

It's all a scam to waste taxpayers money to put taxes up ,, why do you need extra bins we know for a fact , some councils put it all in landfill and some don't , your doing the recycling for them as the paper and the tins gets sold off but the rest goes in the ground , because , we are still behind with other country's as Germany sorts all there's out and uses it for power plants , with emission reducers , our plastic gets shipped to places like china and India and dumped in there back yard (so how can that be saving the environment mr Cameron picking on poor country's to dump your shhhit in ) so it's not about recycling its about taxes , and it's about time you all woke up and rebelled ,,
It's all a scam to waste taxpayers money to put taxes up ,, why do you need extra bins we know for a fact , some councils put it all in landfill and some don't , your doing the recycling for them as the paper and the tins gets sold off but the rest goes in the ground , because , we are still behind with other country's as Germany sorts all there's out and uses it for power plants , with emission reducers , our plastic gets shipped to places like china and India and dumped in there back yard (so how can that be saving the environment mr Cameron picking on poor country's to dump your shhhit in ) so it's not about recycling its about taxes , and it's about time you all woke up and rebelled ,, phil kernot
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5:30pm Fri 17 Jan 14

HarryBosch says...

I have to say that I have never had a problem with the bags since they had the velcro strips fitted. You just have to make sure that the bag is sealed and placed appropriately outside. I wouldn't want another recycling bin blighting my property.
I have to say that I have never had a problem with the bags since they had the velcro strips fitted. You just have to make sure that the bag is sealed and placed appropriately outside. I wouldn't want another recycling bin blighting my property. HarryBosch
  • Score: -2

5:43pm Fri 17 Jan 14

NoPolitics says...

What about the cost of buying the bags and the risk to collectors from sharp metal, glass etc.
Bad planning by the managers should not be an excuse for an inferior service. The bins are guaranteed for 10 years and that equates to good value. Tell the people the truth and admit you have made a mistake, there is nothing wrong with that but to suggest that it is cost effective to stay on bags insults those of us who know better.
What about the cost of buying the bags and the risk to collectors from sharp metal, glass etc. Bad planning by the managers should not be an excuse for an inferior service. The bins are guaranteed for 10 years and that equates to good value. Tell the people the truth and admit you have made a mistake, there is nothing wrong with that but to suggest that it is cost effective to stay on bags insults those of us who know better. NoPolitics
  • Score: 1

5:45pm Fri 17 Jan 14

churchman says...

tell you what, no matter what happens them lads that collect the recycle bags are bloody good workers,hats off to them all.
tell you what, no matter what happens them lads that collect the recycle bags are bloody good workers,hats off to them all. churchman
  • Score: 6

8:42pm Fri 17 Jan 14

stigofthedump says...

Would a wheeled bin collection of mixed recyclables not be a more efficient method resulting in one less collection vehicle and less staff?
Would a wheeled bin collection of mixed recyclables not be a more efficient method resulting in one less collection vehicle and less staff? stigofthedump
  • Score: 0

11:53am Sat 18 Jan 14

REAL RECYCLER says...

Count your lucky stars that despite struggling to apologise for not being able to give everyone a wheeled bin your Council is FORCED to do its recycling properly, in a way that benefits the Blackburn citizens best.

Your kerbside sorted methods will be the future -don't listen to anyone that says otherwise - because that method delivers the best quality so that materials can be re-used here in the UK. As one of your correspondents says - wheeled bins disguise bad practice and actually create waste rather than reduce it.

This leads to the UK being the largest exporter of these so-called recyclable materials to the far east where the "waste" is sorted by children and scavengers in often appalling conditions. Exporting waste is technically illegal so it must be disguised as recyclables.

The only way to get good materials is for everyone to take care not to mix them from the word go. So thank those guys who take your materials and carefully put it into different compartments on the truck - they respect your efforts and help deliver the best outcome.

Very soon the criminals that are illegally exporting waste and getting away with it will be stopped and you will be one of many communities that has been doing it right all along.

If you don't believe me -ask the Welsh Government or WRAP -they have masses of evidence that say that your way is best.

Well done Hyndburn.
Count your lucky stars that despite struggling to apologise for not being able to give everyone a wheeled bin your Council is FORCED to do its recycling properly, in a way that benefits the Blackburn citizens best. Your kerbside sorted methods will be the future -don't listen to anyone that says otherwise - because that method delivers the best quality so that materials can be re-used here in the UK. As one of your correspondents says - wheeled bins disguise bad practice and actually create waste rather than reduce it. This leads to the UK being the largest exporter of these so-called recyclable materials to the far east where the "waste" is sorted by children and scavengers in often appalling conditions. Exporting waste is technically illegal so it must be disguised as recyclables. The only way to get good materials is for everyone to take care not to mix them from the word go. So thank those guys who take your materials and carefully put it into different compartments on the truck - they respect your efforts and help deliver the best outcome. Very soon the criminals that are illegally exporting waste and getting away with it will be stopped and you will be one of many communities that has been doing it right all along. If you don't believe me -ask the Welsh Government or WRAP -they have masses of evidence that say that your way is best. Well done Hyndburn. REAL RECYCLER
  • Score: -1

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