East Lancashire Muslim and Christian household figures revealed

MORE Blackburn with Darwen under fives live in Muslim families than Christian ones, the latest census figures show.

The statistics released this week reveal 4,448 children aged four and under lived in Islamic households in 2011.

The number with parents registered Christian was 4,020.

There were 15 under-fives in Buddhist families, 44 Hindu, 14 Sikh and four in the ‘other religion’ category.

A total of 1,885 households registered as having ‘no religion’ and 848 declined to give any faith.

In the 2001 census under fives from Christian households in the borough numbered 4,591 and from Muslim families 3,295.

Under fives from ‘no religion’ households totalled 1,172 with 1,459 from homes with no religion stated.

Blackburn MP Jack Straw said: “There is nothing new about these figures. These are British children born to British families.”

In 2011, in Burnley, 2,681 under fives lived in Christian households, 1,125 in Muslim families and four in Buddhist homes, 11 in Hindu ones with one each in Sikh or Jewish households. 1,561 came from ‘no religion’ families and 463 from those which declined to state their religion.

In 2001 there were 3,269 Burnley borough children under-fives in Christian households and 757 in Muslim ones.

The 2011 figures for Hyndburn showed 2,624 Christian under fives, 1,063 Muslim toddlers with 23 in households of other religions and 1,707 from families of no religion or no religion stated.

The figures for Pendle were 2,116 Christian under fives, 1,978 Muslims, 27 other religions, and 2,241 who were not religious or did not state their faith.

In Ribble Valley, the 2011 census showed 2,077 Christian under fives and 38 Muslim toddlers. Six came from families of other religions and 760 from households having no religion or declining to state it.

Rossendale’s statistics revealed 2,055 toddlers in Christian households. 323 in Muslim homes, 20 from families of other religions, and 1,931 homes with no religion or no faith stated.

Hyndburn MP Graham Jones said: “Growing numbers of young people is good for East Lancashire. The cultural identity of British Muslims is changing.”

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4:07pm Sat 11 Jan 14

sean_brfc says...

Whilst they may well be British children, it's still a significant demographic change.
Whilst they may well be British children, it's still a significant demographic change. sean_brfc

4:22pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Sajdin says...

sean_brfc wrote:
Whilst they may well be British children, it's still a significant demographic change.
why??
[quote][p][bold]sean_brfc[/bold] wrote: Whilst they may well be British children, it's still a significant demographic change.[/p][/quote]why?? Sajdin

4:35pm Sat 11 Jan 14

ron1946 says...

no shock there
no shock there ron1946

5:16pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

The biggest demographic change has been the switch from children in Christian households to children in households with no religion.
The biggest demographic change has been the switch from children in Christian households to children in households with no religion. Excluded again

5:36pm Sat 11 Jan 14

shytalk says...

All i can say is do not condemn Muslims who have settled in NE lancs.
They only looked for a better life as anyone would do.= and if they are here legally then as far as i am concerned then fair play to them.
All i can say is do not condemn Muslims who have settled in NE lancs. They only looked for a better life as anyone would do.= and if they are here legally then as far as i am concerned then fair play to them. shytalk

5:55pm Sat 11 Jan 14

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Who cares?
Who cares? You're not mugging me off that easily

7:17pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Angry From Accrington says...

And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.
And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid. Angry From Accrington

7:42pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Reality50 says...

Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished.
Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished. Reality50

8:07pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Nottokeenonthesmellofvaseline says...

Hopefully I'll be dead by the time sharia law comes into force in England. If not I'll be on the first plane out. Thank you previous governments, you'll have managed what the nazis couldn't
Hopefully I'll be dead by the time sharia law comes into force in England. If not I'll be on the first plane out. Thank you previous governments, you'll have managed what the nazis couldn't Nottokeenonthesmellofvaseline

8:10pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

Reality50 wrote:
Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished.
Why would the growing numbers of people with no religion vote for Sharia law?

Even in Blackburn, these figures show that kids from Muslim households are under 40%. And schoolkids can't vote until after they are 18.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished.[/p][/quote]Why would the growing numbers of people with no religion vote for Sharia law? Even in Blackburn, these figures show that kids from Muslim households are under 40%. And schoolkids can't vote until after they are 18. Excluded again

9:45pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Reality50 says...

From the last census it said around 30% of Blackburn's population is now Muslim. Now after reading this today that more under fives are Muslim than Christian and you look at birthrate patterns and also the fact that whites are leaving Blackburn in their droves,then 2050 is a fair estimate of sharia law. Once the Muslims have a majority of the population or say when they hit 60% of the town,then expect a full slate of Muslim councillors on BwD council. Once that happens then the demands for sharia will come. Democratically due to them being the majority,will see they get their way.Bradford,Dewsbur
y,Rochdale and other places are going the same way. It is inevitable as Muslim birthrate rockets and Christian Catholic/Protestant birthrate plummets. With the three main political parties promoting a gay lifestyle with policies such as gay marriage,family values are largely and sadly rejected. It is called cultural Marxism although some would call it genocide. A good but different example is Northern Ireland. Sinn Fein/IRA in the 1970's said to the then 39% Catholic population to breed their way to power. They now have 52% of the population and shared power. The same will happen here with the Muslims.
From the last census it said around 30% of Blackburn's population is now Muslim. Now after reading this today that more under fives are Muslim than Christian and you look at birthrate patterns and also the fact that whites are leaving Blackburn in their droves,then 2050 is a fair estimate of sharia law. Once the Muslims have a majority of the population or say when they hit 60% of the town,then expect a full slate of Muslim councillors on BwD council. Once that happens then the demands for sharia will come. Democratically due to them being the majority,will see they get their way.Bradford,Dewsbur y,Rochdale and other places are going the same way. It is inevitable as Muslim birthrate rockets and Christian Catholic/Protestant birthrate plummets. With the three main political parties promoting a gay lifestyle with policies such as gay marriage,family values are largely and sadly rejected. It is called cultural Marxism although some would call it genocide. A good but different example is Northern Ireland. Sinn Fein/IRA in the 1970's said to the then 39% Catholic population to breed their way to power. They now have 52% of the population and shared power. The same will happen here with the Muslims. Reality50

11:13pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Was Hingma Chine says...

Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff). Was Hingma Chine

11:21pm Sat 11 Jan 14

mrcool says...

Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.
Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet. mrcool

12:36am Sun 12 Jan 14

Angry From Accrington says...

Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
[quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher. Angry From Accrington

1:16am Sun 12 Jan 14

salvadore says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either.
As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either. As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really. salvadore

6:25am Sun 12 Jan 14

SWP supporter says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.
Why? What's so significant about religion? In any case, Muslim children under 5 are greatly outnumbered
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.[/p][/quote]Why? What's so significant about religion? In any case, Muslim children under 5 are greatly outnumbered SWP supporter

6:27am Sun 12 Jan 14

SWP supporter says...

Reality50 wrote:
Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished.
You assume that non-white = Muslim
You see you ARE racist
And besides that you're talking nonsense
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished.[/p][/quote]You assume that non-white = Muslim You see you ARE racist And besides that you're talking nonsense SWP supporter

6:33am Sun 12 Jan 14

SWP supporter says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
Oh what tripe. The birthrate of Muslims of the same age is no different to that of non-Muslims
By the way, there is no such thing as an "indigenous" population in Britain. "Indigenous" refers to a small minority of remnant people politically and economically dominated by another people.
That simply does not apply to Britain - read the UN statement on Indigenous Peoples.
It refers to people such as Australian Aborigines and Native Americans. You use it to provide cover for blatant racism
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]Oh what tripe. The birthrate of Muslims of the same age is no different to that of non-Muslims By the way, there is no such thing as an "indigenous" population in Britain. "Indigenous" refers to a small minority of remnant people politically and economically dominated by another people. That simply does not apply to Britain - read the UN statement on Indigenous Peoples. It refers to people such as Australian Aborigines and Native Americans. You use it to provide cover for blatant racism SWP supporter

8:16am Sun 12 Jan 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
programmed to procreate - are you aware of how idiotic you sound?
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]programmed to procreate - are you aware of how idiotic you sound? hasslem hasslem

8:52am Sun 12 Jan 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

Some of the comments on this article sound as though it's something as different as cats and dogs we are talking about!

Newsflash for you all, at my old house I had a lovely Muslim family on one side of me, a Christian family on the other side and me an atheist in the middle....we all got on great and I was sad to move out.
Some of the comments on this article sound as though it's something as different as cats and dogs we are talking about! Newsflash for you all, at my old house I had a lovely Muslim family on one side of me, a Christian family on the other side and me an atheist in the middle....we all got on great and I was sad to move out. HelmshoreMan2010

9:03am Sun 12 Jan 14

Angry From Accrington says...

SWP supporter wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
Oh what tripe. The birthrate of Muslims of the same age is no different to that of non-Muslims
By the way, there is no such thing as an "indigenous" population in Britain. "Indigenous" refers to a small minority of remnant people politically and economically dominated by another people.
That simply does not apply to Britain - read the UN statement on Indigenous Peoples.
It refers to people such as Australian Aborigines and Native Americans. You use it to provide cover for blatant racism
You talk of racism as though it's a bad thing.
[quote][p][bold]SWP supporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]Oh what tripe. The birthrate of Muslims of the same age is no different to that of non-Muslims By the way, there is no such thing as an "indigenous" population in Britain. "Indigenous" refers to a small minority of remnant people politically and economically dominated by another people. That simply does not apply to Britain - read the UN statement on Indigenous Peoples. It refers to people such as Australian Aborigines and Native Americans. You use it to provide cover for blatant racism[/p][/quote]You talk of racism as though it's a bad thing. Angry From Accrington

9:11am Sun 12 Jan 14

Angry From Accrington says...

salvadore wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either.
As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.
Your observations on the strength of Islam and decline of Chritianity serves only to underline my concerns and fears. Whilst former Christian communities have come to realise the myth and fantasy of the bible, less enlightened people blindly follow the doctrine and instruction of their organized religion. They are brainwashed into compliance.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either. As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.[/p][/quote]Your observations on the strength of Islam and decline of Chritianity serves only to underline my concerns and fears. Whilst former Christian communities have come to realise the myth and fantasy of the bible, less enlightened people blindly follow the doctrine and instruction of their organized religion. They are brainwashed into compliance. Angry From Accrington

9:13am Sun 12 Jan 14

Angry From Accrington says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
programmed to procreate - are you aware of how idiotic you sound?
No. Quite a catchy mantra I thought.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]programmed to procreate - are you aware of how idiotic you sound?[/p][/quote]No. Quite a catchy mantra I thought. Angry From Accrington

9:19am Sun 12 Jan 14

Meerkat.com says...

salvadore wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either.
As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.
Your last paragraph is codswallop! Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong ? Muslims get religion DRUMMED into them from day 1, if muslims didnt get relion forced onto them from day 1 do you actually think there would be as many?
Alot of people in the cencus when asked about religion just automatically ticked catholic or christian because thats what they and their families are, but if they took a second to think about it would think, oh hang on, im not actually religious.
You also seem to be forgetting the fact that you have to go to church to get your child christened if you want to get your child into a good school whether you are religious or not, I know of loads of people who are classed as and actually class their selves as religious (on paper) because they want their kids to go to a good school.
Alot of weddings nowadays either dont happen in churches or if they do its because the wife to be wants a big traditional white wedding, or because its just what you do when you get married!! And where else do you go when you die ? Ive not looked into it cause its never crossed my mind possibly because I dont really care because im dead ? I dunno you decide haha
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either. As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.[/p][/quote]Your last paragraph is codswallop! Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong ? Muslims get religion DRUMMED into them from day 1, if muslims didnt get relion forced onto them from day 1 do you actually think there would be as many? Alot of people in the cencus when asked about religion just automatically ticked catholic or christian because thats what they and their families are, but if they took a second to think about it would think, oh hang on, im not actually religious. You also seem to be forgetting the fact that you have to go to church to get your child christened if you want to get your child into a good school whether you are religious or not, I know of loads of people who are classed as and actually class their selves as religious (on paper) because they want their kids to go to a good school. Alot of weddings nowadays either dont happen in churches or if they do its because the wife to be wants a big traditional white wedding, or because its just what you do when you get married!! And where else do you go when you die ? Ive not looked into it cause its never crossed my mind possibly because I dont really care because im dead ? I dunno you decide haha Meerkat.com

9:31am Sun 12 Jan 14

Lancs Away says...

Sorry didn't read all the comments but surely nobody is surprised....
Sorry didn't read all the comments but surely nobody is surprised.... Lancs Away

12:02pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Tashan90 says...

mrcool wrote:
Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.
Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind.
And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.
[quote][p][bold]mrcool[/bold] wrote: Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.[/p][/quote]Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind. And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on. Tashan90

12:23pm Sun 12 Jan 14

sean_brfc says...

Tashan90 wrote:
mrcool wrote:
Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.
Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind.
And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.
"It is predicted that by 2050, 50% of Britain will be Muslim."

Predicted by who? BNP Bob on the street corner? In the 2011 census, 4.4% of the UK was Muslim. What exactly is going to happen in the next 30 years?

Besides, with this influx of Christian Romanians...
[quote][p][bold]Tashan90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrcool[/bold] wrote: Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.[/p][/quote]Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind. And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.[/p][/quote]"It is predicted that by 2050, 50% of Britain will be Muslim." Predicted by who? BNP Bob on the street corner? In the 2011 census, 4.4% of the UK was Muslim. What exactly is going to happen in the next 30 years? Besides, with this influx of Christian Romanians... sean_brfc

12:31pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

Tashan90 wrote:
mrcool wrote:
Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.
Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind.
And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.
That is rubbish - whoever worked that out can't do simple maths., If current trends continue (that is the changes between the 2001 and 2011 census continue) then Muslims will make up half the British population sometime around the year 2450.

As the figures clearly show, Muslims will not make up the majority of the population even in Blackburn (with one of the highest Muslim populations in the UK) by 2050. Based on the figures given in this article, if current trends continue, Blackburn would have a majority Muslim population sometime between 2070 and 2080.
[quote][p][bold]Tashan90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrcool[/bold] wrote: Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.[/p][/quote]Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind. And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.[/p][/quote]That is rubbish - whoever worked that out can't do simple maths., If current trends continue (that is the changes between the 2001 and 2011 census continue) then Muslims will make up half the British population sometime around the year 2450. As the figures clearly show, Muslims will not make up the majority of the population even in Blackburn (with one of the highest Muslim populations in the UK) by 2050. Based on the figures given in this article, if current trends continue, Blackburn would have a majority Muslim population sometime between 2070 and 2080. Excluded again

1:16pm Sun 12 Jan 14

salvadore says...

Meerkat.com wrote:
salvadore wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either.
As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.
Your last paragraph is codswallop! Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong ? Muslims get religion DRUMMED into them from day 1, if muslims didnt get relion forced onto them from day 1 do you actually think there would be as many?
Alot of people in the cencus when asked about religion just automatically ticked catholic or christian because thats what they and their families are, but if they took a second to think about it would think, oh hang on, im not actually religious.
You also seem to be forgetting the fact that you have to go to church to get your child christened if you want to get your child into a good school whether you are religious or not, I know of loads of people who are classed as and actually class their selves as religious (on paper) because they want their kids to go to a good school.
Alot of weddings nowadays either dont happen in churches or if they do its because the wife to be wants a big traditional white wedding, or because its just what you do when you get married!! And where else do you go when you die ? Ive not looked into it cause its never crossed my mind possibly because I dont really care because im dead ? I dunno you decide haha
What are you on about I said Christians only go to church at birth marraige and death. As for Muslims they may be Drummed in to them about their beliefs but when they're older they choose to stay with Islam. My original point was about how BMEs make only less then10% of lancashires population. Lancashire is not over run with immigrants. The 10% was made up of 90 different ethnicities polish etc
[quote][p][bold]Meerkat.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either. As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.[/p][/quote]Your last paragraph is codswallop! Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong ? Muslims get religion DRUMMED into them from day 1, if muslims didnt get relion forced onto them from day 1 do you actually think there would be as many? Alot of people in the cencus when asked about religion just automatically ticked catholic or christian because thats what they and their families are, but if they took a second to think about it would think, oh hang on, im not actually religious. You also seem to be forgetting the fact that you have to go to church to get your child christened if you want to get your child into a good school whether you are religious or not, I know of loads of people who are classed as and actually class their selves as religious (on paper) because they want their kids to go to a good school. Alot of weddings nowadays either dont happen in churches or if they do its because the wife to be wants a big traditional white wedding, or because its just what you do when you get married!! And where else do you go when you die ? Ive not looked into it cause its never crossed my mind possibly because I dont really care because im dead ? I dunno you decide haha[/p][/quote]What are you on about I said Christians only go to church at birth marraige and death. As for Muslims they may be Drummed in to them about their beliefs but when they're older they choose to stay with Islam. My original point was about how BMEs make only less then10% of lancashires population. Lancashire is not over run with immigrants. The 10% was made up of 90 different ethnicities polish etc salvadore

2:50pm Sun 12 Jan 14

kenbro says...

Why are the white folks concerned about the possibility of Muslim domination in the future ? Read the newspapers.
Just about every muslim country has major problems. Sunnis killing Shiites, Shiites killing Sunnis, Islamists killing Christians, political and social turmoil.
This is what we see every day in the news.
What other religion can convince a youth to strap a bomb to his chest, go into a marketplace and kill a dozen civilians ?
Yes, the vast majority of British Muslims are peaceful, but the constant litany of terror that militant Muslims create around the world is very disturbing to a society that rid itself of such things back in the Middle Ages.
This may be one of the reasons that they are afraid of potential Muslim dominance through population changes.
Why are the white folks concerned about the possibility of Muslim domination in the future ? Read the newspapers. Just about every muslim country has major problems. Sunnis killing Shiites, Shiites killing Sunnis, Islamists killing Christians, political and social turmoil. This is what we see every day in the news. What other religion can convince a youth to strap a bomb to his chest, go into a marketplace and kill a dozen civilians ? Yes, the vast majority of British Muslims are peaceful, but the constant litany of terror that militant Muslims create around the world is very disturbing to a society that rid itself of such things back in the Middle Ages. This may be one of the reasons that they are afraid of potential Muslim dominance through population changes. kenbro

4:54pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Angry From Accrington says...

kenbro wrote:
Why are the white folks concerned about the possibility of Muslim domination in the future ? Read the newspapers.
Just about every muslim country has major problems. Sunnis killing Shiites, Shiites killing Sunnis, Islamists killing Christians, political and social turmoil.
This is what we see every day in the news.
What other religion can convince a youth to strap a bomb to his chest, go into a marketplace and kill a dozen civilians ?
Yes, the vast majority of British Muslims are peaceful, but the constant litany of terror that militant Muslims create around the world is very disturbing to a society that rid itself of such things back in the Middle Ages.
This may be one of the reasons that they are afraid of potential Muslim dominance through population changes.
Absolutely right bro.
[quote][p][bold]kenbro[/bold] wrote: Why are the white folks concerned about the possibility of Muslim domination in the future ? Read the newspapers. Just about every muslim country has major problems. Sunnis killing Shiites, Shiites killing Sunnis, Islamists killing Christians, political and social turmoil. This is what we see every day in the news. What other religion can convince a youth to strap a bomb to his chest, go into a marketplace and kill a dozen civilians ? Yes, the vast majority of British Muslims are peaceful, but the constant litany of terror that militant Muslims create around the world is very disturbing to a society that rid itself of such things back in the Middle Ages. This may be one of the reasons that they are afraid of potential Muslim dominance through population changes.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right bro. Angry From Accrington

5:36pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Tashan90 says...

sean_brfc wrote:
Tashan90 wrote:
mrcool wrote:
Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.
Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind.
And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.
"It is predicted that by 2050, 50% of Britain will be Muslim."

Predicted by who? BNP Bob on the street corner? In the 2011 census, 4.4% of the UK was Muslim. What exactly is going to happen in the next 30 years?

Besides, with this influx of Christian Romanians...
Read Vincent Cooper's article which he has created using past data. It baffles me as to why you have mentioned the BNP here.
[quote][p][bold]sean_brfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tashan90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrcool[/bold] wrote: Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.[/p][/quote]Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind. And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.[/p][/quote]"It is predicted that by 2050, 50% of Britain will be Muslim." Predicted by who? BNP Bob on the street corner? In the 2011 census, 4.4% of the UK was Muslim. What exactly is going to happen in the next 30 years? Besides, with this influx of Christian Romanians...[/p][/quote]Read Vincent Cooper's article which he has created using past data. It baffles me as to why you have mentioned the BNP here. Tashan90

6:00pm Sun 12 Jan 14

pdb951 says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.
Could not agree more
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.[/p][/quote]Could not agree more pdb951

6:21pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

Tashan90 wrote:
sean_brfc wrote:
Tashan90 wrote:
mrcool wrote:
Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.
Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind.
And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.
"It is predicted that by 2050, 50% of Britain will be Muslim."

Predicted by who? BNP Bob on the street corner? In the 2011 census, 4.4% of the UK was Muslim. What exactly is going to happen in the next 30 years?

Besides, with this influx of Christian Romanians...
Read Vincent Cooper's article which he has created using past data. It baffles me as to why you have mentioned the BNP here.
Oh dear, someone else taken in by Vincent Cooper's mathematical illiteracy.

If you read Cooper's article, you might wonder why he has selected only the years 2004-2008 for his growth rates for the Muslim population of the UK. After all we have figures going back far further and until 2011. The answer is he had to pick those four particular years to make his argument work - an other period and the numbers don't stack up.

Which they don't anyway. Let is assume that the rates of growth in the Muslim population from 2004 to 2008 were typical.What Cooper fails to understand is that while you can increase a small percentage significantly without affecting the total, you can't with a larger percentage.

To give two simple examples. If you increase a proportion of 10% by 10% you get just under 11% (because you increase the population from 100% to 101%). But for small numbers, this doesn't matter. But it does for large increases in percentages - for example a 1200% increase from 4% to 50%.

Cooper increases a Muslim population of 4% of the population now to 50% of the population now in 2050 and thinks that will be 50% of the 2050 population. But of course the total population in 2050 would have increased to146% of the population now (assuming no growth in the non-Muslim population). So the Muslim population would be just over one third.
[quote][p][bold]Tashan90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sean_brfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tashan90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrcool[/bold] wrote: Just shows the intellectual ability of the readers of this site. MOST people on this site can't even extrapolate information from a paragraph of text. I'm not surprised the people of the North are deemed the idiots of the UK, bearing in mind the evidence seen in the comments on this site on a daily basis. For those at the bottom of the class, let me explain. The article only shows that whilst there is a significant of under 5's in families that CLASS themselves as Muslim, it DOES NOT mean that they are the majority. If you understand that a LOT of white families class themselves as "no religion", you will understand that category plus those of the "Christian" families outnumbers the Muslims. So panic over, no Sharia Law and no need to leave just yet.[/p][/quote]Actually you should do more research before commenting. Whilst you are very right in stating the obvious that at the present time the amount of non-muslim children outnumbers muslim children in East Lancashire, within a few years time the demographics will significantly change further if the current trends that have taken place in the last 10 years continue. For a society to remain the same size, the average female has to have 2.1 children and in general Britain is well below this rate whilst the exception is the British muslim birth rate which is significantly higher. It is actually predicted that by 2050 if the trends continue then 50% of Britain will be muslim. That is based on readily available data so that is why people are commenting about sharia law and so on, not just because they are deemed 'idiots' in your mind. And what exactly does being Northern have anything to do with this? There are intelligent and unintelligent everywhere, regardless of whether you're Northern, Southern and so on.[/p][/quote]"It is predicted that by 2050, 50% of Britain will be Muslim." Predicted by who? BNP Bob on the street corner? In the 2011 census, 4.4% of the UK was Muslim. What exactly is going to happen in the next 30 years? Besides, with this influx of Christian Romanians...[/p][/quote]Read Vincent Cooper's article which he has created using past data. It baffles me as to why you have mentioned the BNP here.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, someone else taken in by Vincent Cooper's mathematical illiteracy. If you read Cooper's article, you might wonder why he has selected only the years 2004-2008 for his growth rates for the Muslim population of the UK. After all we have figures going back far further and until 2011. The answer is he had to pick those four particular years to make his argument work - an other period and the numbers don't stack up. Which they don't anyway. Let is assume that the rates of growth in the Muslim population from 2004 to 2008 were typical.What Cooper fails to understand is that while you can increase a small percentage significantly without affecting the total, you can't with a larger percentage. To give two simple examples. If you increase a proportion of 10% by 10% you get just under 11% (because you increase the population from 100% to 101%). But for small numbers, this doesn't matter. But it does for large increases in percentages - for example a 1200% increase from 4% to 50%. Cooper increases a Muslim population of 4% of the population now to 50% of the population now in 2050 and thinks that will be 50% of the 2050 population. But of course the total population in 2050 would have increased to146% of the population now (assuming no growth in the non-Muslim population). So the Muslim population would be just over one third. Excluded again

7:12pm Sun 12 Jan 14

tajmahalovertheoldmarket says...

Well, Bill, I bet you're rolling around wetting yourself with laughter. You've clearly won your Editor's weekly prize for writing the article most likely to get the masses kicking off! Congratulations, it's been a resounding success.
Well, Bill, I bet you're rolling around wetting yourself with laughter. You've clearly won your Editor's weekly prize for writing the article most likely to get the masses kicking off! Congratulations, it's been a resounding success. tajmahalovertheoldmarket

9:46pm Sun 12 Jan 14

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

HelmshoreMan2010 wrote:
Some of the comments on this article sound as though it's something as different as cats and dogs we are talking about!

Newsflash for you all, at my old house I had a lovely Muslim family on one side of me, a Christian family on the other side and me an atheist in the middle....we all got on great and I was sad to move out.
Sounds like the start of a joke.
[quote][p][bold]HelmshoreMan2010[/bold] wrote: Some of the comments on this article sound as though it's something as different as cats and dogs we are talking about! Newsflash for you all, at my old house I had a lovely Muslim family on one side of me, a Christian family on the other side and me an atheist in the middle....we all got on great and I was sad to move out.[/p][/quote]Sounds like the start of a joke. You're not mugging me off that easily

11:53pm Sun 12 Jan 14

neesh says...

Reality50 wrote:
Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished.
whahhay! roll on 2050.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Blackburn will be under full sharia law by 2050. Probably the only whites that exist in the area then will be in Mellor and Shadsworth and Feniscowles. The entire rest of the town will be 100pc Muslim. The call of prayer will be blaring from all corners of the town.Blackburn is finished.[/p][/quote]whahhay! roll on 2050. neesh

11:55pm Sun 12 Jan 14

neesh says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.
I hope you have a big sofa to hide behind.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.[/p][/quote]I hope you have a big sofa to hide behind. neesh

11:58pm Sun 12 Jan 14

neesh says...

pdb951 wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.
Could not agree more
maybe ,you and mr angry can keep each other company behind the sofa .(or under the bed)
[quote][p][bold]pdb951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: And so it came to pass that within our lifetime, Lancashire becomes a Muslim dominated territory. Be afraid,be very afraid.[/p][/quote]Could not agree more[/p][/quote]maybe ,you and mr angry can keep each other company behind the sofa .(or under the bed) neesh

7:46pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Tugay's Understudy says...

salvadore wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Was Hingma Chine wrote:
Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims.

What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).
This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.
I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either.
As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.
Why is it sad that people choose not to follow religion that can be largely disproved and was clearly introduced as a means of social control? People who demand faith from others really annoy me. It's up to the individual to choose how they live. Fact is the majority of religious beliefs and principles are outdated and, in some cases, frankly barbaric. However, if people choose to follow a religion, providing they're not planning on blowing themselves (and others) up, inciting violence and hatred, or even killing their own kin for "disrespecting the family", then I have no problem with it. Don't pretend that Muslim belief is so strong as to follow the Holy Book more vigilantly than others. As a young, white male walking with my mother (yes my mother) from the shop in Blackburn, I was heckled by three young Asian males about how they were going to "smash all the whites up". So much for following their religion? Unfortunately this is the society we live in today, where racial abuse is not only directed on immigrants, but also on the indigenous people of this country. I do not seek pity, I detest racism in all it's forms and would never stoop to the standards of these people. Some will champion the increase in Muslim children in Lancashire, personally I don't. I am not racist in any way, it just saddens me that my relatives and other previous and current generations are moving away from the area due to the evidently changing demographics, and in some cases due to racial abuse. The evidence is clear with the number of extremists and inciters of hate that proceed to pop up in this country. If that's not an indication that tighter immigration laws need to be implemented then I don't know what is Whilst everyone likes to pretend that only whites are capable of being racist, I am seeing how this is increasingly not the case.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Was Hingma Chine[/bold] wrote: Go! Go! Baby Grow! is the message to all non-Muslims, then. For all I know, and I might not know enough, Muslims are no better procreators than non-Muslims. What's this dread of Sharia law? Christian law insists on all sorts of thou-shalt-nots. Jewish law, too (don't use fire on a weekend and other miserable guff).[/p][/quote]This is a cultural farther than biological issue. Muslims are programmed to procreate in their st for world domination. Their lifestyle expectations are different to Western culture as they are happy to churn out children with no tangible means of support whilst the responsible indigenous population tend to live within their sustainable means. Politically, the Asian population will grow to undermine and sabotage the British economy and simple mathematics and demographic extrapolation will determine that Muslim States will begin to emerge from 2038 and total domination will be complete by the early 2070s. These views no doubt label me as a Racist but I am, in reality, a pragmatic philosopher.[/p][/quote]I think people like you should get off your xenophobic **** and do some research. Census results for lancashire 1.2 million people out of which 110000 are ethnic minorities which is less then 10%. Surprising to know that lancashire is not over run with ethnic minorities. Out of ethnic minorities they represent 90 different ethnic groups so it's all from the indian sub continent either. As birth rates Muslims are part of this country they are now 3 rd and 4th generation. Atleast the Muslims beliefs in their religion is still strong, Christians have forgot their religion and only visit church at birth marraige and death. Sad really.[/p][/quote]Why is it sad that people choose not to follow religion that can be largely disproved and was clearly introduced as a means of social control? People who demand faith from others really annoy me. It's up to the individual to choose how they live. Fact is the majority of religious beliefs and principles are outdated and, in some cases, frankly barbaric. However, if people choose to follow a religion, providing they're not planning on blowing themselves (and others) up, inciting violence and hatred, or even killing their own kin for "disrespecting the family", then I have no problem with it. Don't pretend that Muslim belief is so strong as to follow the Holy Book more vigilantly than others. As a young, white male walking with my mother (yes my mother) from the shop in Blackburn, I was heckled by three young Asian males about how they were going to "smash all the whites up". So much for following their religion? Unfortunately this is the society we live in today, where racial abuse is not only directed on immigrants, but also on the indigenous people of this country. I do not seek pity, I detest racism in all it's forms and would never stoop to the standards of these people. Some will champion the increase in Muslim children in Lancashire, personally I don't. I am not racist in any way, it just saddens me that my relatives and other previous and current generations are moving away from the area due to the evidently changing demographics, and in some cases due to racial abuse. The evidence is clear with the number of extremists and inciters of hate that proceed to pop up in this country. If that's not an indication that tighter immigration laws need to be implemented then I don't know what is Whilst everyone likes to pretend that only whites are capable of being racist, I am seeing how this is increasingly not the case. Tugay's Understudy

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