New Darwen Wetherspoon's to keep historic image

Lancashire Telegraph: An artist’s impression  of the new Wetherspoons An artist’s impression of the new Wetherspoons

THIS is what Darwen’s soon-to-open JD Wether-spoon pub will look like once the scaffolding is removed.

The Old Chapel, formerly the town’s Railway Road Methodist Church, will be handed over to the discount pub chain by developers on Thursday, January 9.

It will then be opened to the public on Thursday, January 23.

The building, most recently used as discount store A&M Bargains, has been heavily refurbished and, for the first time in years, the upstairs of the property is to be brought back into use.

Architects CT, who have carried out the renovation work, have also unveiled the pub’s sign, which includes a sepia image from Darwen’s past. The building, designed by Edward Bates, opened on March 30, 1866, and first became a supermarket in 1969.

A spokesman for the architects said the history of the building had been preserved. He said: “The impressive interior of this Wesleyan Chapel was the inspiration for the design.

“Its elevated position on the hilltop over the town centre gives the building great status and we have used this scale to enhance the interior with double height panelling and an impressive restored original ceiling.

“In recent years, the interior balcony floor was infilled, but we gained listed building consent to open up the vast two-storey height space, as it would have looked when it was a practising church back in the late 1800s.

“The impressive 11m high ceiling is now exposed for customers to see the space as it was originally intended.

“The stained glass windows have been retained and their shapes and colours are reflected in the carpet and fabrics.

“The local heritage is replicated in the sculptures and artwork, promoting a historical sense of community we feel our pub represents.”

The firm has already recruited 40 staff to work at the pub which will be managed by Michael Johnston, who was at JD Wetherspoon’s The Commercial Hotel in Accrington.

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3:49pm Fri 27 Dec 13

shirtbox2003 says...

will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck.
will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck. shirtbox2003

4:57pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Darwentrublue says...

shirtbox2003 wrote:
will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck.
As this will be the 3rd new pub to open in Darwen in the past 12 months I think they do
[quote][p][bold]shirtbox2003[/bold] wrote: will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck.[/p][/quote]As this will be the 3rd new pub to open in Darwen in the past 12 months I think they do Darwentrublue

7:20pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Ste_Topp says...

This won't be a disaster, JD is cheap this place will do very well.
This won't be a disaster, JD is cheap this place will do very well. Ste_Topp

7:39pm Fri 27 Dec 13

walkaround says...

shirtbox2003 wrote:
will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck.
Shirtlifter please explain how this pub will be a disaster?It will do well with cheap food drink on sale,nice decor,close to the boulevard and train station,it will bring more people to the town which helps local business.I cant see this new pub being a disaster at all.
[quote][p][bold]shirtbox2003[/bold] wrote: will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck.[/p][/quote]Shirtlifter please explain how this pub will be a disaster?It will do well with cheap food drink on sale,nice decor,close to the boulevard and train station,it will bring more people to the town which helps local business.I cant see this new pub being a disaster at all. walkaround

8:10pm Fri 27 Dec 13

gags2 says...

how many other pubs will shut down when this open . they wont be able to lower there prices to same level as wetherspoon
how many other pubs will shut down when this open . they wont be able to lower there prices to same level as wetherspoon gags2

8:39pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Excluded again says...

gags2 wrote:
how many other pubs will shut down when this open . they wont be able to lower there prices to same level as wetherspoon
The three new pubs that have opened in Darwen Town Centre in recent years have not driven other pubs out of business.

By making the town centre a more attractive place to go they have given a new lease of life to some other pubs - the ones who have upped their game to try to provide what customers want in 2013 - rather than trying to force customers to accept what they had in the 1970s.

Wetherspoons have opened nearly 900 new pubs in Britain in the last 20 years by adopting the radical approach of opening pubs that people want to go to. Other breweries, landlords and pubcos should perhaps take note.
[quote][p][bold]gags2[/bold] wrote: how many other pubs will shut down when this open . they wont be able to lower there prices to same level as wetherspoon[/p][/quote]The three new pubs that have opened in Darwen Town Centre in recent years have not driven other pubs out of business. By making the town centre a more attractive place to go they have given a new lease of life to some other pubs - the ones who have upped their game to try to provide what customers want in 2013 - rather than trying to force customers to accept what they had in the 1970s. Wetherspoons have opened nearly 900 new pubs in Britain in the last 20 years by adopting the radical approach of opening pubs that people want to go to. Other breweries, landlords and pubcos should perhaps take note. Excluded again

9:42pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Cherry Benables says...

This is nothing but good news for Darwen. A derelict building now in use (and not a take away or pound shop) a large national brand in the town, and yet more reason for people to visit Darwen for a night out.
This is nothing but good news for Darwen. A derelict building now in use (and not a take away or pound shop) a large national brand in the town, and yet more reason for people to visit Darwen for a night out. Cherry Benables

8:15am Sat 28 Dec 13

gags2 says...

I will name two pubs what will shut near. Millstone & White lion I hope they don't but it looks like it
I will name two pubs what will shut near. Millstone & White lion I hope they don't but it looks like it gags2

10:12am Sat 28 Dec 13

phil kernot says...

The pubs that are surviving is because the beer is so close to use before date thay get it cheaper , and you wonder why its cheap and thay can survive ,,, use your head ,, A old place of worship turned in to a drinking den , saying that the church has no morals , investing in the likes of wonga , and sending the poor to prison if thay never paid taxes in the olden days ,, as thay were just tax collectors , ,,,, the truth hurts I suppose
The pubs that are surviving is because the beer is so close to use before date thay get it cheaper , and you wonder why its cheap and thay can survive ,,, use your head ,, A old place of worship turned in to a drinking den , saying that the church has no morals , investing in the likes of wonga , and sending the poor to prison if thay never paid taxes in the olden days ,, as thay were just tax collectors , ,,,, the truth hurts I suppose phil kernot

10:34am Sat 28 Dec 13

bluenick says...

walkaround wrote:
shirtbox2003 wrote:
will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck.
Shirtlifter please explain how this pub will be a disaster?It will do well with cheap food drink on sale,nice decor,close to the boulevard and train station,it will bring more people to the town which helps local business.I cant see this new pub being a disaster at all.
Brewers like Thwaites need to take a good hard look at their selves ! They think they are clever charging high prices for beer & high rents for many landlords/landladies
. All they are going to do is keep changing people's drinking habits & are killing the golden goose!
[quote][p][bold]walkaround[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shirtbox2003[/bold] wrote: will be another darwen disaster,people just do not go in pubs enough these days to make them viable.but good luck.[/p][/quote]Shirtlifter please explain how this pub will be a disaster?It will do well with cheap food drink on sale,nice decor,close to the boulevard and train station,it will bring more people to the town which helps local business.I cant see this new pub being a disaster at all.[/p][/quote]Brewers like Thwaites need to take a good hard look at their selves ! They think they are clever charging high prices for beer & high rents for many landlords/landladies . All they are going to do is keep changing people's drinking habits & are killing the golden goose! bluenick

11:24am Sat 28 Dec 13

Malthus says...

phil kernot wrote:
The pubs that are surviving is because the beer is so close to use before date thay get it cheaper , and you wonder why its cheap and thay can survive ,,, use your head ,, A old place of worship turned in to a drinking den , saying that the church has no morals , investing in the likes of wonga , and sending the poor to prison if thay never paid taxes in the olden days ,, as thay were just tax collectors , ,,,, the truth hurts I suppose
I agree there is a lot wrong with the "Church" both currently and historically. However, with regard the new Wetherspoons pub opening on the former Lodges' site are you not aware that it is former Methodist chapel and not a former Church of England building.

I would like to know though how Wetherspoons managed to get a licence. If I recall correctly A&M Bargins were not permitted to sell alcohol originally and then eventually only Monday to Saturday as there were Conditions imposed by the Methodists on how alcohol could be sold from this buidling
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: The pubs that are surviving is because the beer is so close to use before date thay get it cheaper , and you wonder why its cheap and thay can survive ,,, use your head ,, A old place of worship turned in to a drinking den , saying that the church has no morals , investing in the likes of wonga , and sending the poor to prison if thay never paid taxes in the olden days ,, as thay were just tax collectors , ,,,, the truth hurts I suppose[/p][/quote]I agree there is a lot wrong with the "Church" both currently and historically. However, with regard the new Wetherspoons pub opening on the former Lodges' site are you not aware that it is former Methodist chapel and not a former Church of England building. I would like to know though how Wetherspoons managed to get a licence. If I recall correctly A&M Bargins were not permitted to sell alcohol originally and then eventually only Monday to Saturday as there were Conditions imposed by the Methodists on how alcohol could be sold from this buidling Malthus

5:32pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Lankygirl says...

Malthus wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
The pubs that are surviving is because the beer is so close to use before date thay get it cheaper , and you wonder why its cheap and thay can survive ,,, use your head ,, A old place of worship turned in to a drinking den , saying that the church has no morals , investing in the likes of wonga , and sending the poor to prison if thay never paid taxes in the olden days ,, as thay were just tax collectors , ,,,, the truth hurts I suppose
I agree there is a lot wrong with the "Church" both currently and historically. However, with regard the new Wetherspoons pub opening on the former Lodges' site are you not aware that it is former Methodist chapel and not a former Church of England building.

I would like to know though how Wetherspoons managed to get a licence. If I recall correctly A&M Bargins were not permitted to sell alcohol originally and then eventually only Monday to Saturday as there were Conditions imposed by the Methodists on how alcohol could be sold from this buidling
The covenant banning the sale of alcohol expired a year ago. See http://www.lancashir
etelegraph.co.uk/new
s/10665456.Wetherspo
ons_name_day_for_Dar
wen_opening/?ref=rc
[quote][p][bold]Malthus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: The pubs that are surviving is because the beer is so close to use before date thay get it cheaper , and you wonder why its cheap and thay can survive ,,, use your head ,, A old place of worship turned in to a drinking den , saying that the church has no morals , investing in the likes of wonga , and sending the poor to prison if thay never paid taxes in the olden days ,, as thay were just tax collectors , ,,,, the truth hurts I suppose[/p][/quote]I agree there is a lot wrong with the "Church" both currently and historically. However, with regard the new Wetherspoons pub opening on the former Lodges' site are you not aware that it is former Methodist chapel and not a former Church of England building. I would like to know though how Wetherspoons managed to get a licence. If I recall correctly A&M Bargins were not permitted to sell alcohol originally and then eventually only Monday to Saturday as there were Conditions imposed by the Methodists on how alcohol could be sold from this buidling[/p][/quote]The covenant banning the sale of alcohol expired a year ago. See http://www.lancashir etelegraph.co.uk/new s/10665456.Wetherspo ons_name_day_for_Dar wen_opening/?ref=rc Lankygirl

9:16pm Sun 29 Dec 13

lcjfm03 says...

My experience is that when Wetherspoons open a pub it breathes life into the area and as someone has said previously it means that lazy pub owners have to up their game to keep in the race. The opening of the Commercial in Accrington has been a prime example. Good beer, decent food, real coffee all at affordable prices. Having never spent an evening in Accrington in over 50 years I now go with friends at least once a week. Experienced the same when Wetherspoons opened in Oswestry. There are exceptions as in the Blackburn Postal Order which is a dive well past it's sell by date. If the Darwen pub follows the Accrington example it will be a success.
My experience is that when Wetherspoons open a pub it breathes life into the area and as someone has said previously it means that lazy pub owners have to up their game to keep in the race. The opening of the Commercial in Accrington has been a prime example. Good beer, decent food, real coffee all at affordable prices. Having never spent an evening in Accrington in over 50 years I now go with friends at least once a week. Experienced the same when Wetherspoons opened in Oswestry. There are exceptions as in the Blackburn Postal Order which is a dive well past it's sell by date. If the Darwen pub follows the Accrington example it will be a success. lcjfm03

11:58am Mon 30 Dec 13

stanhillstan says...

The claim that wetherspoons buys close to sell by date is a complete myth. I have delivered beer from thwaites and moorhouse breweries to there outlets that were full date casks.. Its just that they can bulk buy in advance and centrilise there billing to cut costs. Hope this pub is a success and that there bar staff are more friendlier than those in the commercial accrington......
The claim that wetherspoons buys close to sell by date is a complete myth. I have delivered beer from thwaites and moorhouse breweries to there outlets that were full date casks.. Its just that they can bulk buy in advance and centrilise there billing to cut costs. Hope this pub is a success and that there bar staff are more friendlier than those in the commercial accrington...... stanhillstan

1:51pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Corsetmaker says...

Buying cheap beer at close to sell by dates so they stay open clearly doesnt work... it didnt in the nameless drinking hovel i worked in (years ago) which is now shut where we were told to scrape off the BB dates off the backs of the bottles of Bud...
Buying cheap beer at close to sell by dates so they stay open clearly doesnt work... it didnt in the nameless drinking hovel i worked in (years ago) which is now shut where we were told to scrape off the BB dates off the backs of the bottles of Bud... Corsetmaker

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