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Bridleway plan is 'devastating' say Darwen farmers

Lancashire Telegraph: Kev Partington, Michael Riley, Linda Sanderson and Lee and Barbara Partington are concerned about plans for a bridleway in their area Kev Partington, Michael Riley, Linda Sanderson and Lee and Barbara Partington are concerned about plans for a bridleway in their area

FARMERS in Darwen say they are being ‘railroaded’ into having a bridleway on their land which will have ‘devastating implications’ for them.

They claim plans to create a public right of way from Victoria Buildings to Belthorn will cut off one landowner’s access to her cows and leave another concerned about the security of his home.

Michael Riley, owner of Holehouse Farm at Pickup Bank, said the original route of the path suggested by the council in 2005 would only have encroached minimally on his land, but would have cost the borough £60,000 to construct.

The updated 2012 route along Mr Riley’s road and paddock, currently being considered, will be a few feet from his house, make public half an acre of his land and devalue his property, Mr Riley claims.

He said: “I understand why people would want a bridleway through this area. I have horses myself and know there’s not that many safe places to ride them.

“But if this goes ahead, I don’t know what I’ll do. There will be quad and motorbikes racing along here at all hours. People will be able to use my garden as their own.

“I worked and saved to buy this place for peace and quiet. I’ll be devastated.”

The work will connect the West Pennine Feeder Route to the Pennine Bridleway National Trail.

Jacqueline Roebuck, a neighbouring landowner, said: “They’re just railroading over us. I won’t be able to get to my cows if they make the road public and have to fence it off.”

Darwen MP Jake Berry said: “I recently met with Mr Riley to discuss this clearly very sensitive issue. Although I am fully sympathetic to his concerns, planning falls under the remit of the council.

“I have encouraged the council to meet with Mr Riley and councillor Julie Slater so a solution can be found.”

Planning committee chairman Coun Jim Smith, said: “I will certainly be looking into this matter when it is brought in front of the committee.”

A spokesman for Capita Symonds, who provide the Public Rights of Way Service on behalf of Blackburn with Darwen Council, said: “Despite some landowners agreeing in principle, when these negotiations have failed to result in formal agreements, research was carried out to identify whether bridleway rights already exist along the route using both historical documentary evidence and user evidence.”

Nobody at Blackburn with Darwen Council was available for comment yesterday.

Objectors to the bridleway have until Friday, May 3 to submit their representations.

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3:25pm Wed 3 Apr 13

A Darener says...

Jacqueline Roebuck, a neighbouring landowner, said: “They’re just railroading over us. I won’t be able to get to my cows if they make the road public and have to fence it off.”
It's called " a gate"!
Jacqueline Roebuck, a neighbouring landowner, said: “They’re just railroading over us. I won’t be able to get to my cows if they make the road public and have to fence it off.” It's called " a gate"! A Darener
  • Score: 3

3:28pm Wed 3 Apr 13

A Darener says...

Just because a piece of paper says you own land, in the grand scheme of things we ALL own the land. This is all our world. We are born , we live, we die, we go. No one person better than anybody else.
Just because a piece of paper says you own land, in the grand scheme of things we ALL own the land. This is all our world. We are born , we live, we die, we go. No one person better than anybody else. A Darener
  • Score: -2

3:41pm Wed 3 Apr 13

tonygreaves says...

Rather a garbled story. I am sure that a sensible solution can be found. Motorbikes and quads are not allowed on bridleways and it's possible to design them off them. The landowners' arguments look pretty weak to me. But having a company like Capita in charge of this area of work does not seem to me to be very sensible.

Tony Greaves
Rather a garbled story. I am sure that a sensible solution can be found. Motorbikes and quads are not allowed on bridleways and it's possible to design them off them. The landowners' arguments look pretty weak to me. But having a company like Capita in charge of this area of work does not seem to me to be very sensible. Tony Greaves tonygreaves
  • Score: 8

5:52pm Wed 3 Apr 13

2 for 5p says...

Farmers again, moan, moan, moan.
They expect thousands of £ in subsidies yet you the tax payer want to walk across or near there land, and there up in arms.
Farmers again, moan, moan, moan. They expect thousands of £ in subsidies yet you the tax payer want to walk across or near there land, and there up in arms. 2 for 5p
  • Score: -3

6:07pm Wed 3 Apr 13

sean_brfc says...

These landowners have been unreasonable for years. Good on those involved in opening up the WPM bridleways.
These landowners have been unreasonable for years. Good on those involved in opening up the WPM bridleways. sean_brfc
  • Score: 3

6:25pm Wed 3 Apr 13

Noiticer says...

The Pennine Bridleway which traverses the north of England crosses miles of farming land in the South Pennines and Yorkshire Dales has been a great success and welcomed by many farmers who have provided accommodation for horse riders and walkers. There is no reason to allow quadbikes or motorbikes on a bridleway so the worries and concerns of the people in this story are possibly misplaced.
The Pennine Bridleway which traverses the north of England crosses miles of farming land in the South Pennines and Yorkshire Dales has been a great success and welcomed by many farmers who have provided accommodation for horse riders and walkers. There is no reason to allow quadbikes or motorbikes on a bridleway so the worries and concerns of the people in this story are possibly misplaced. Noiticer
  • Score: 6

6:41pm Wed 3 Apr 13

happycyclist says...

There is a VERY simple solution to this problem. There is an unmetalled road that goes from Victoria Buildings to Belthorn. It's already there. I've cycled on it numerous times. Re-designate that to a bridleway and it's job done. It's then a very short road section from Belthorn to the next bit of West Pennine Bridleway.

The farmers are right to be angry.
There is a VERY simple solution to this problem. There is an unmetalled road that goes from Victoria Buildings to Belthorn. It's already there. I've cycled on it numerous times. Re-designate that to a bridleway and it's job done. It's then a very short road section from Belthorn to the next bit of West Pennine Bridleway. The farmers are right to be angry. happycyclist
  • Score: 4

6:42pm Wed 3 Apr 13

happycyclist says...

Noiticer wrote:
The Pennine Bridleway which traverses the north of England crosses miles of farming land in the South Pennines and Yorkshire Dales has been a great success and welcomed by many farmers who have provided accommodation for horse riders and walkers. There is no reason to allow quadbikes or motorbikes on a bridleway so the worries and concerns of the people in this story are possibly misplaced.
This is not the Pennine Bridleway; this is the West Pennine Bridleway Loop.
[quote][p][bold]Noiticer[/bold] wrote: The Pennine Bridleway which traverses the north of England crosses miles of farming land in the South Pennines and Yorkshire Dales has been a great success and welcomed by many farmers who have provided accommodation for horse riders and walkers. There is no reason to allow quadbikes or motorbikes on a bridleway so the worries and concerns of the people in this story are possibly misplaced.[/p][/quote]This is not the Pennine Bridleway; this is the West Pennine Bridleway Loop. happycyclist
  • Score: -1

6:43pm Wed 3 Apr 13

happycyclist says...

Scroll down this page to four links showing the route map of the West Pennine Bridleway Loop.

http://www.westpenni
nemoors.com/visiting
_cyclinghorseriding
Scroll down this page to four links showing the route map of the West Pennine Bridleway Loop. http://www.westpenni nemoors.com/visiting _cyclinghorseriding happycyclist
  • Score: 0

6:45pm Wed 3 Apr 13

happycyclist says...

And taxpayers should be angry that a bunch of cretins with crayons are wasting more of their money on crackpot routes like this.
And taxpayers should be angry that a bunch of cretins with crayons are wasting more of their money on crackpot routes like this. happycyclist
  • Score: 0

7:38pm Wed 3 Apr 13

Wishingwell says...

Has the council got spare cash to benefit a few horse riders? What about all the other minority pass times?are they going to get as much council assistance? It all sounds like the Hooray Henry Brigade looking after themselves.
Has the council got spare cash to benefit a few horse riders? What about all the other minority pass times?are they going to get as much council assistance? It all sounds like the Hooray Henry Brigade looking after themselves. Wishingwell
  • Score: 2

7:57pm Wed 3 Apr 13

sean_brfc says...

happycyclist wrote:
Noiticer wrote:
The Pennine Bridleway which traverses the north of England crosses miles of farming land in the South Pennines and Yorkshire Dales has been a great success and welcomed by many farmers who have provided accommodation for horse riders and walkers. There is no reason to allow quadbikes or motorbikes on a bridleway so the worries and concerns of the people in this story are possibly misplaced.
This is not the Pennine Bridleway; this is the West Pennine Bridleway Loop.
He/she never said it was.
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Noiticer[/bold] wrote: The Pennine Bridleway which traverses the north of England crosses miles of farming land in the South Pennines and Yorkshire Dales has been a great success and welcomed by many farmers who have provided accommodation for horse riders and walkers. There is no reason to allow quadbikes or motorbikes on a bridleway so the worries and concerns of the people in this story are possibly misplaced.[/p][/quote]This is not the Pennine Bridleway; this is the West Pennine Bridleway Loop.[/p][/quote]He/she never said it was. sean_brfc
  • Score: 2

8:22pm Wed 3 Apr 13

KMBruce says...

I would just like to point out that, when complete, the West Pennine Loop will be 56 miles of a multi user route for ALL non-motorised traffic- walkers, cyclists and horse riders. Not, as everyone seems to think, purely for horse riders. This will provide an opportunity for farmers & others to diversify into tourism. The rest of the route, which passes over land in Bolton, Bury, Chorley and Accrington is complete.
I would just like to point out that, when complete, the West Pennine Loop will be 56 miles of a multi user route for ALL non-motorised traffic- walkers, cyclists and horse riders. Not, as everyone seems to think, purely for horse riders. This will provide an opportunity for farmers & others to diversify into tourism. The rest of the route, which passes over land in Bolton, Bury, Chorley and Accrington is complete. KMBruce
  • Score: 3

8:45pm Wed 3 Apr 13

Darrener by the Grace of God says...

This 'crackpot' has existed for over a hundred years the issue has always been proving it. Locals have used this route for years on horses, foot and as a footpath. None of these 'farmers' are local to the area and so don't understand the history and provenance of this route. The whole route is currently accessible by car, motorbike, etc. and is the only route available to united utilities to access the reservoir. The facts have not been reported in this article only the winges of some residents that don't like an unofficial route already in use becoming official. The previous owners of all these farms never had a problem, the route has been there longer than them. Good on the council and capita for finally forcing the issue and opening this once well used route back up again to the public. ABOUT TIME.
This 'crackpot' has existed for over a hundred years the issue has always been proving it. Locals have used this route for years on horses, foot and as a footpath. None of these 'farmers' are local to the area and so don't understand the history and provenance of this route. The whole route is currently accessible by car, motorbike, etc. and is the only route available to united utilities to access the reservoir. The facts have not been reported in this article only the winges of some residents that don't like an unofficial route already in use becoming official. The previous owners of all these farms never had a problem, the route has been there longer than them. Good on the council and capita for finally forcing the issue and opening this once well used route back up again to the public. ABOUT TIME. Darrener by the Grace of God
  • Score: 11

8:57pm Wed 3 Apr 13

Darrener by the Grace of God says...

tonygreaves wrote:
Rather a garbled story. I am sure that a sensible solution can be found. Motorbikes and quads are not allowed on bridleways and it's possible to design them off them. The landowners' arguments look pretty weak to me. But having a company like Capita in charge of this area of work does not seem to me to be very sensible.

Tony Greaves
The route in question is an access road upto Hole House farm anyway used on a daily basis by all the owners of land all the way up the route with motor vehicles.. Since united utilities laid road shavings on most of the route it's like a normal road anyway not a bridle way. The whole argument by the landowners doesn't stand up. The majority of the route is already a public footpath it's just a change of status.
[quote][p][bold]tonygreaves[/bold] wrote: Rather a garbled story. I am sure that a sensible solution can be found. Motorbikes and quads are not allowed on bridleways and it's possible to design them off them. The landowners' arguments look pretty weak to me. But having a company like Capita in charge of this area of work does not seem to me to be very sensible. Tony Greaves[/p][/quote]The route in question is an access road upto Hole House farm anyway used on a daily basis by all the owners of land all the way up the route with motor vehicles.. Since united utilities laid road shavings on most of the route it's like a normal road anyway not a bridle way. The whole argument by the landowners doesn't stand up. The majority of the route is already a public footpath it's just a change of status. Darrener by the Grace of God
  • Score: 4

10:14pm Wed 3 Apr 13

GrindletonBob says...

Are the Councillors going to also introduce a crazy one way system on the proposed Bridleway. Their love of messing around with both Blackburn and Darwen's town centre roads is clear for all to see. What about the first Bridleway in the country with a one way system that makes no sense and at the same time, what about a bus lane along it that nobody wants.

This could show how innovative our Council and Planners really are. I would also suggest pleading poverty when it comes to maintaining the new bridleway (lots of pot holes and the like please) but then spend large sums of money on modern art to grace the route. Job done, I should get a job with the Council!
Are the Councillors going to also introduce a crazy one way system on the proposed Bridleway. Their love of messing around with both Blackburn and Darwen's town centre roads is clear for all to see. What about the first Bridleway in the country with a one way system that makes no sense and at the same time, what about a bus lane along it that nobody wants. This could show how innovative our Council and Planners really are. I would also suggest pleading poverty when it comes to maintaining the new bridleway (lots of pot holes and the like please) but then spend large sums of money on modern art to grace the route. Job done, I should get a job with the Council! GrindletonBob
  • Score: -1

7:54am Thu 4 Apr 13

SWP supporter says...

My first thought was "sod the farmers" Then I thought again, and this time I thought "sod the farmers"
My first thought was "sod the farmers" Then I thought again, and this time I thought "sod the farmers" SWP supporter
  • Score: 1

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