East Lancashire deer could be culled if population continues to grow (From Lancashire Telegraph)

The happy to be killing defenceless animals brigade will be getting very excited about this. Wish they’d go and join the army and see if they like it!

Please Please can I come and enjoy the cull, nothing better than getting up and go and pump some slugs into em. I could do with another trophy to mount in the hall along with the six I have. And the meat is beautiful, I am more than willing to share.

It comes as scientists have recommended culling 50 to 60 per cent of deer nationally because the animals are destroying woodlands and wildlife habitat.

What a load of ****, its not the deers destroying woodlands and wildlife habitats, its humans with there housing developements and roadbuilding schemes.
Its humans that need culling.

coming soon, tesco venison burgers

Who gets the licence to cull? What will happen to the dead deer? If there's going to be a cull they should at least be eaten. But who butchers and sells the meat? How does this all work?

happycyclist wrote:
Who gets the licence to cull? What will happen to the dead deer? If there's going to be a cull they should at least be eaten. But who butchers and sells the meat? How does this all work?

In the Ribble Valley deer are kept to managable numbers by those whose activites are off ticket as we say.
They are well butcherd by those same people whose nocturnal activities help to prevent woodland being damaged. The venson is rarely sold,but rest assured it tastes far better than supermarket horse meat..

Too many deer are just as much a problem as too many people. Overpopulation always brings problems as we are seeing in the UK which cannot feed itself and is running out of room for refuse, cars, houses etc.

3,000 deer or 1.5m humans. I wonder who causes the most damage.

If you believe we need to full humans,take yourself out first

If you believe we need to cull humans,take yourself out first

Skookie wrote:
It comes as scientists have recommended culling 50 to 60 per cent of deer nationally because the animals are destroying woodlands and wildlife habitat.

What a load of ****, its not the deers destroying woodlands and wildlife habitats, its humans with there housing developements and roadbuilding schemes.
Its humans that need culling.

Phsycopath?

Venison is a beautiful meat. One of the most healthy. Why shouldn't deer be culled? What's the difference from a farmer breeding beef in fields to deer running wild in woodland? It is far more humane to shoot them than to round them up and put them in lorries and send them to abattoirs for stunning and slitting their throats.

A Darener wrote:
Venison is a beautiful meat. One of the most healthy. Why shouldn't deer be culled? What's the difference from a farmer breeding beef in fields to deer running wild in woodland? It is far more humane to shoot them than to round them up and put them in lorries and send them to abattoirs for stunning and slitting their throats.

If you were so concerned about animal welfare, you shouldn't be eating the 8l00dy thing in the first place.

drunken donut wrote:

Skookie wrote:
It comes as scientists have recommended culling 50 to 60 per cent of deer nationally because the animals are destroying woodlands and wildlife habitat.

What a load of ****, its not the deers destroying woodlands and wildlife habitats, its humans with there housing developements and roadbuilding schemes.
Its humans that need culling.

Phsycopath?

Before you start getting abusive learn how to spell correctly *Psychopath* now jog along you Donut.

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Venison is a beautiful meat. One of the most healthy. Why shouldn't deer be culled? What's the difference from a farmer breeding beef in fields to deer running wild in woodland? It is far more humane to shoot them than to round them up and put them in lorries and send them to abattoirs for stunning and slitting their throats.

If you were so concerned about animal welfare, you shouldn't be eating the 8l00dy thing in the first place.

Meat will always be eaten. There is however no excuse for not treating any animal with respect. Give it the best life it can have and kill it the most humane way possible. Eating meat does not mean we do not respect the right of an animal to be treated properly.

A Darener wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Venison is a beautiful meat. One of the most healthy. Why shouldn't deer be culled? What's the difference from a farmer breeding beef in fields to deer running wild in woodland? It is far more humane to shoot them than to round them up and put them in lorries and send them to abattoirs for stunning and slitting their throats.

If you were so concerned about animal welfare, you shouldn't be eating the 8l00dy thing in the first place.

Meat will always be eaten. There is however no excuse for not treating any animal with respect. Give it the best life it can have and kill it the most humane way possible. Eating meat does not mean we do not respect the right of an animal to be treated properly.

Respect!!!
Its not a pet. Its going to be consumed. So what harm is there if slaughtering the animal lasts 30 seconds longer than stunning the animal.
Have you ever seen an animal stunned? Current passing through the brain produces convulsion and then unconciousness. Current through the heart results in an immediate cardiac arrest that leads to unconciousness and death. Regrdless how humans prefer animal slaughter for consumption, what justifies your own process, humanely? If you accept animals have rights then it is morally wrong to raise and kill animals. This is clear violation of animal rights. Either don't eat animals, and if you do you're showing no respect to animals.

Sen c b....don't be so silly!

A Darener wrote:
Sen c b....don't be so silly!

You hate animals. Admit it.

No I don't hate animals. I just eat meat as a matter of preference. But I do not like cruelty to animals be they wild or domesticated. Bred for pleasure or for consumption. I just want to see that if animals are to die then it is done as humanely as possible. What ever the method.

A Darener wrote:
No I don't hate animals. I just eat meat as a matter of preference. But I do not like cruelty to animals be they wild or domesticated. Bred for pleasure or for consumption. I just want to see that if animals are to die then it is done as humanely as possible. What ever the method.

Well in that case you're a cruel individual because you've shown cruelty to animals as you've slaughtered one 'humanely as possible'.
What ever that means!!!???

I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

A Darener wrote:
I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry.

Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain.
Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote: I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry. Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain. Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

Of course plants and vegetables feel pain, how can you be so narrow minded ? Plants, fruit and veg all have souls too ! I bet your one of those who still thinks the world is flat lol

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote:
I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry.

Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain.
Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

So you think we are not animals! How superior of you. We are just another branch of the ape family no more, no less. We hunt, grow food, kill and eat both vegetation and other living creatures. We have advanced ahead of other creatures, but it doesn't give us any more superiorority over them. What our brain does give us and it is called humanity is a sense of fairness to treat others, both humans and other living creatures as well as possible. Unfortunately there are humans who do not follow that route and behave in a way that is not for the good of others.

A Darener wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote:
I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry.

Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain.
Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

So you think we are not animals! How superior of you. We are just another branch of the ape family no more, no less. We hunt, grow food, kill and eat both vegetation and other living creatures. We have advanced ahead of other creatures, but it doesn't give us any more superiorority over them. What our brain does give us and it is called humanity is a sense of fairness to treat others, both humans and other living creatures as well as possible. Unfortunately there are humans who do not follow that route and behave in a way that is not for the good of others.

Your ancestors may well have been gorillas and monkeys and would have resided in caves but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing you quoting 'if animals kill humans , the God given right for humans to kill animals'.

Humans are not animals and are more superior in intelligence but humans do tend to behave like animals. Humans are the only mammals not endowed with a natural defense against the elements such as fur and thick hide and must take appropriate measures as a defense which animals do not possess. Animals do not have the ability to advance mentally and to qualify. All these achievements are solely for humans only. For you probably animals would graduate and succeed with flying colours, If humans do not have superiority over animals, why is this article referring to culling deer and your post with venison as being beautiful and why it shouldn't be culled.

I_Love_Mommy wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote: I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry. Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain. Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

Of course plants and vegetables feel pain, how can you be so narrow minded ? Plants, fruit and veg all have souls too ! I bet your one of those who still thinks the world is flat lol

No I don't regard as the world being flat. I'll leave that to the Tudors and the Saxons who for so many centuries sentenced their folk to their deaths for saying otherwise.
'Plants and vegetables feel pain and have souls'
From your comments it seems it is you who assumes the sun orbits the flat earth.

P.S You're getting late for a funeral. Go on off you go. A spud funeral. Ha!

sen....you've lost me now? I said in my first post the deer should be culled.
Far more humane than the way beef is produced.

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote: I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry. Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain. Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

So you think we are not animals! How superior of you. We are just another branch of the ape family no more, no less. We hunt, grow food, kill and eat both vegetation and other living creatures. We have advanced ahead of other creatures, but it doesn't give us any more superiorority over them. What our brain does give us and it is called humanity is a sense of fairness to treat others, both humans and other living creatures as well as possible. Unfortunately there are humans who do not follow that route and behave in a way that is not for the good of others.

Your ancestors may well have been gorillas and monkeys and would have resided in caves but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing you quoting 'if animals kill humans , the God given right for humans to kill animals'. Humans are not animals and are more superior in intelligence but humans do tend to behave like animals. Humans are the only mammals not endowed with a natural defense against the elements such as fur and thick hide and must take appropriate measures as a defense which animals do not possess. Animals do not have the ability to advance mentally and to qualify. All these achievements are solely for humans only. For you probably animals would graduate and succeed with flying colours, If humans do not have superiority over animals, why is this article referring to culling deer and your post with venison as being beautiful and why it shouldn't be culled.

Er... Humans ARE Animals, it is a scientific FACT !

I love mummy....you are wasting your time with this one. Suggest we drop the subject. She will not listen to reason. No sense you see!

A Darener wrote:
I love mummy....you are wasting your time with this one. Suggest we drop the subject. She will not listen to reason. No sense you see!

Your prehistoric cave thinking has been proiven.

Continue with your 'humane' animal sledge hammering.

I_Love_Mommy wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote: I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry. Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain. Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

So you think we are not animals! How superior of you. We are just another branch of the ape family no more, no less. We hunt, grow food, kill and eat both vegetation and other living creatures. We have advanced ahead of other creatures, but it doesn't give us any more superiorority over them. What our brain does give us and it is called humanity is a sense of fairness to treat others, both humans and other living creatures as well as possible. Unfortunately there are humans who do not follow that route and behave in a way that is not for the good of others.

Your ancestors may well have been gorillas and monkeys and would have resided in caves but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing you quoting 'if animals kill humans , the God given right for humans to kill animals'. Humans are not animals and are more superior in intelligence but humans do tend to behave like animals. Humans are the only mammals not endowed with a natural defense against the elements such as fur and thick hide and must take appropriate measures as a defense which animals do not possess. Animals do not have the ability to advance mentally and to qualify. All these achievements are solely for humans only. For you probably animals would graduate and succeed with flying colours, If humans do not have superiority over animals, why is this article referring to culling deer and your post with venison as being beautiful and why it shouldn't be culled.

Er... Humans ARE Animals, it is a scientific FACT !

Er ok then let's get the record straight.
I'm a human and I mean a human, a person capable of progressing and achieving very high standards to which there are no limits, and you're an animal, from the caves to the graves, a dimwit animal.

I_Love_Mommy wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote:

sen c b l wrote:

A Darener wrote: I am assuming from your comments re cruelty that you must be a vegan. So what makes you think that cutting living leaves or fruit from a plant is any less cruel. Does the plant not die when uprooted from the ground? It is all a question of degree of pain. We do not know if plants feel pain but assuming they do then a humane death is necessary for all living things. It is just a question of survival. If an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal. It is just the way of the world. It is just that we are better at it.

Vegetation does not have a heart, neither does it have a brain, so therefore it does not feel pain. It does not walk or run, neither does it talk, smile or cry. Plants and crops are planted to be consumed. They grow from the land and fields. Its known as agriculture and farming. Cows graze to provide nutritious milk. Animals graze. So plants do not fell pain. Animals kill animals for food and for survival. That does give you the God given right to imitate an animal. If an animal kill a human, it will not stun a human, or kill it 'humanely as possible', but bites its head off for starters. So you've just contradicted yourself, 'if an animal kills a human then it is no different to a human killing an animal'. So why stun an animal???

So you think we are not animals! How superior of you. We are just another branch of the ape family no more, no less. We hunt, grow food, kill and eat both vegetation and other living creatures. We have advanced ahead of other creatures, but it doesn't give us any more superiorority over them. What our brain does give us and it is called humanity is a sense of fairness to treat others, both humans and other living creatures as well as possible. Unfortunately there are humans who do not follow that route and behave in a way that is not for the good of others.

Your ancestors may well have been gorillas and monkeys and would have resided in caves but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing you quoting 'if animals kill humans , the God given right for humans to kill animals'. Humans are not animals and are more superior in intelligence but humans do tend to behave like animals. Humans are the only mammals not endowed with a natural defense against the elements such as fur and thick hide and must take appropriate measures as a defense which animals do not possess. Animals do not have the ability to advance mentally and to qualify. All these achievements are solely for humans only. For you probably animals would graduate and succeed with flying colours, If humans do not have superiority over animals, why is this article referring to culling deer and your post with venison as being beautiful and why it shouldn't be culled.

Er... Humans ARE Animals, it is a scientific FACT !

Er ok then let's get the record straight.
I'm a human and I mean a human, a person capable of progressing and achieving very high standards to which there are no limits, and you're an animal, from the caves to the graves, a dimwit animal.