Jack Straw opposes mosque in Blackburn house

Jack Straw

Jack Straw

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Local government reporter

JACK Straw has called on councillors to dismiss a new bid for a mosque in a Blackburn terrace house.

In 2011, Farooq Mohammed applied for retrospective planning consent for the place of worship above his Ashrafi Study Centre Madrassah, in Accrington Road, Audley.

Blackburn with Darwen Council’s planning committee refused the proposal because of objections over noise and nuisance from neighbours and ordered the mosque to cease operations.

Mr Mohammed, who has operated an Islamic school for 75 pupils at the premises between 5pm and 7.30pm with planning permission since July 2009, has now tabled a second bid for a smaller mosque on the ground floor only.

A maximum of 20 worshippers would attend at any one time.

Neighbours, Blackburn MP Mr Straw and Father Martin Daniels, of nearby St Jude’s Church, have objected again to the siting of a mosque in the house.

Councillors have been recommended by officers to refuse the application. They say the levels of noise and general disturbance remains too high to be acceptable in planning terms.

Next door neighbours Paolo and Kelly Fardella have written to the council saying: “Although the level in which the mosque will operate has changed in the current application from first floor to ground floor, we feel that the level of noise when all the worshippers are there will not change, not to mention the calls to pray that regularly disturb us.”

Mr Straw said using terraced houses as mosques was no longer necessary, or appropriate, to allow Muslims to practise their faith.

He added: “There are plenty of mosques nearby”

Mr Mohammed’s agent Imran Patel, of Compass Architectural Consultants, said: “We have no comment to make before the meeting.”

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1:13pm Wed 22 Jan 14

DarioG2000 says...

I'm not bothered anyway
I'm not bothered anyway DarioG2000
  • Score: -24

1:14pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Biggy12 says...

Council tax evasion perhaps..just saying ;-)
Council tax evasion perhaps..just saying ;-) Biggy12
  • Score: 78

1:18pm Wed 22 Jan 14

juanbbien says...

What a bloody state Blackburns in
What a bloody state Blackburns in juanbbien
  • Score: 84

1:59pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Casper's mum says...

What's with "rectrospective planning permission" anyway? You should gain planning permission beforehand, not go ahead and do it then submit an application!
What's with "rectrospective planning permission" anyway? You should gain planning permission beforehand, not go ahead and do it then submit an application! Casper's mum
  • Score: 79

2:10pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Biggy12 says...

Who's going to be 1st to turn their home into a church (place of worship)?
Who's going to be 1st to turn their home into a church (place of worship)? Biggy12
  • Score: 49

2:21pm Wed 22 Jan 14

bernss says...

well thats not true their is a mosque on preston old road and another on stanfell street that I know of.
well thats not true their is a mosque on preston old road and another on stanfell street that I know of. bernss
  • Score: 35

2:50pm Wed 22 Jan 14

DarioG2000 says...

Nobody objected to Deadwood being turned into a mosque with 40ft high chickens #daretodream #pissandorange
Nobody objected to Deadwood being turned into a mosque with 40ft high chickens #daretodream #pissandorange DarioG2000
  • Score: -15

3:24pm Wed 22 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . .

Blackburn with Darwen Council Census:
Religion: 2001/2011

Audley:
The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414.

Bastwell:
The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114.

Beardwood with Lammack:
The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505.

Corporation Park:
The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449.

Earcroft:
The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868.

East Rural:
The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275.

Ewood:
The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417.

Fernhurst:
The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945.

Higher Croft:
The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724.

Little Harwood:
The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519.

Livesey with Pleasington:
The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678.

Marsh House:
The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190.

Meadowhead:
The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919.

Mill Hill:
The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270.

North Turton with Tockholes:
The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914.

Queens Park:
The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668.

Roe Lee:
The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655.

Shadsworth with Whitebirk:
The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857.

Shear Brow:
The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273.

Sudell:
The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656.

Sunnyhurst:
The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346.

Wensley Fold:
The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865.

Whitehall:
The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853.

Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.
Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . . Blackburn with Darwen Council Census: Religion: 2001/2011 Audley: The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414. Bastwell: The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114. Beardwood with Lammack: The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505. Corporation Park: The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449. Earcroft: The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868. East Rural: The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275. Ewood: The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417. Fernhurst: The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945. Higher Croft: The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724. Little Harwood: The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519. Livesey with Pleasington: The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678. Marsh House: The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190. Meadowhead: The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919. Mill Hill: The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270. North Turton with Tockholes: The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914. Queens Park: The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668. Roe Lee: The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655. Shadsworth with Whitebirk: The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857. Shear Brow: The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273. Sudell: The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656. Sunnyhurst: The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346. Wensley Fold: The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865. Whitehall: The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853. Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website. blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 25

3:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

AnthonyUK says...

blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . .

Blackburn with Darwen Council Census:
Religion: 2001/2011

Audley:
The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414.

Bastwell:
The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114.

Beardwood with Lammack:
The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505.

Corporation Park:
The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449.

Earcroft:
The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868.

East Rural:
The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275.

Ewood:
The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417.

Fernhurst:
The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945.

Higher Croft:
The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724.

Little Harwood:
The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519.

Livesey with Pleasington:
The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678.

Marsh House:
The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190.

Meadowhead:
The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919.

Mill Hill:
The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270.

North Turton with Tockholes:
The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914.

Queens Park:
The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668.

Roe Lee:
The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655.

Shadsworth with Whitebirk:
The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857.

Shear Brow:
The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273.

Sudell:
The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656.

Sunnyhurst:
The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346.

Wensley Fold:
The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865.

Whitehall:
The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853.

Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.
There is NO need for ANY more mosques at all!
[quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . . Blackburn with Darwen Council Census: Religion: 2001/2011 Audley: The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414. Bastwell: The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114. Beardwood with Lammack: The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505. Corporation Park: The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449. Earcroft: The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868. East Rural: The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275. Ewood: The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417. Fernhurst: The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945. Higher Croft: The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724. Little Harwood: The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519. Livesey with Pleasington: The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678. Marsh House: The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190. Meadowhead: The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919. Mill Hill: The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270. North Turton with Tockholes: The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914. Queens Park: The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668. Roe Lee: The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655. Shadsworth with Whitebirk: The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857. Shear Brow: The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273. Sudell: The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656. Sunnyhurst: The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346. Wensley Fold: The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865. Whitehall: The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853. Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.[/p][/quote]There is NO need for ANY more mosques at all! AnthonyUK
  • Score: 41

3:57pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

The application for retrospective planning permission was refused. And this application for planning permission is recommended for refusal.

Where a planning application is not in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan it should be refused. And where a planning application is in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan, it will normally be approved. That's how the system works and has worked since the 1940s.
The application for retrospective planning permission was refused. And this application for planning permission is recommended for refusal. Where a planning application is not in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan it should be refused. And where a planning application is in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan, it will normally be approved. That's how the system works and has worked since the 1940s. Excluded again
  • Score: 28

4:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

TattyAnn says...

Hello blackburnwithdarwen

Actually, if you look at the figures you've quoted,in every ward except one, there is a proportionally significant and more consistent rise in the number of people stating that they have no religion. BwD need to be taking notice of atheists, secularists and non-believers too and acknowledge that there are more than enough places for public worship in the town.
Hello blackburnwithdarwen Actually, if you look at the figures you've quoted,in every ward except one, there is a proportionally significant and more consistent rise in the number of people stating that they have no religion. BwD need to be taking notice of atheists, secularists and non-believers too and acknowledge that there are more than enough places for public worship in the town. TattyAnn
  • Score: 37

4:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . .

Blackburn with Darwen Council Census:
Religion: 2001/2011

Audley:
The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414.

Bastwell:
The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114.

Beardwood with Lammack:
The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505.

Corporation Park:
The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449.

Earcroft:
The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868.

East Rural:
The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275.

Ewood:
The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417.

Fernhurst:
The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945.

Higher Croft:
The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724.

Little Harwood:
The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519.

Livesey with Pleasington:
The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678.

Marsh House:
The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190.

Meadowhead:
The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919.

Mill Hill:
The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270.

North Turton with Tockholes:
The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914.

Queens Park:
The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668.

Roe Lee:
The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655.

Shadsworth with Whitebirk:
The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857.

Shear Brow:
The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273.

Sudell:
The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656.

Sunnyhurst:
The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346.

Wensley Fold:
The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865.

Whitehall:
The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853.

Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.
There is NO need for ANY more mosques at all!
Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . .

Sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit, sorry for the above!
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . . Blackburn with Darwen Council Census: Religion: 2001/2011 Audley: The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414. Bastwell: The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114. Beardwood with Lammack: The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505. Corporation Park: The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449. Earcroft: The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868. East Rural: The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275. Ewood: The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417. Fernhurst: The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945. Higher Croft: The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724. Little Harwood: The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519. Livesey with Pleasington: The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678. Marsh House: The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190. Meadowhead: The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919. Mill Hill: The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270. North Turton with Tockholes: The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914. Queens Park: The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668. Roe Lee: The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655. Shadsworth with Whitebirk: The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857. Shear Brow: The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273. Sudell: The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656. Sunnyhurst: The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346. Wensley Fold: The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865. Whitehall: The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853. Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.[/p][/quote]There is NO need for ANY more mosques at all![/p][/quote]Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . . Sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit, sorry for the above! blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: -9

5:43pm Wed 22 Jan 14

StopDeludingYourself says...

Excluded again wrote:
The application for retrospective planning permission was refused. And this application for planning permission is recommended for refusal.

Where a planning application is not in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan it should be refused. And where a planning application is in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan, it will normally be approved. That's how the system works and has worked since the 1940s.
You are right, the system has worked in this case, the application is not appropriate and the Council has refused, where the problem lies, if if goes to a planning committee, all the bent Asian Councillors will approve it!

(by the way I am Muslim)
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: The application for retrospective planning permission was refused. And this application for planning permission is recommended for refusal. Where a planning application is not in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan it should be refused. And where a planning application is in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan, it will normally be approved. That's how the system works and has worked since the 1940s.[/p][/quote]You are right, the system has worked in this case, the application is not appropriate and the Council has refused, where the problem lies, if if goes to a planning committee, all the bent Asian Councillors will approve it! (by the way I am Muslim) StopDeludingYourself
  • Score: 37

5:50pm Wed 22 Jan 14

drunken donut says...

How does Jack think he will be elected again going against his core voters....oh wait a minute.
How does Jack think he will be elected again going against his core voters....oh wait a minute. drunken donut
  • Score: 2

6:00pm Wed 22 Jan 14

woolywords says...

bernss wrote:
well thats not true their is a mosque on preston old road and another on stanfell street that I know of.
The problems is that most people see a Muslim as being someone who follows one particular sect of Islam and not realise the large diversity within the faith itself. A while ago, someone told me that there is around 70-odd different sects of Islam, all whom wish to follow in their own unique way.
The main church in this town is itself a sect of Christianity that split with the principal church. I really couldn't guess at the numbers of various sects of Christianity, as a new one seems to pop up every year in the US alone.
So it is of no surprise to me that a few of a particular sect would want to have their own little mosque in an house. Although, they should really have some respect for their neighbours concerns over noise.
On the flip side, there is nothing stopping the Muslims of that area, complaining to the council and church, that the constant tolling of the church bells during a service, lasts longer than the call to prayer.
As we are trying to get Muslims to separate their religion from politics, I am amazed that there is a detrimental comment from St Judes (Patron Saint of lost causes) who have obviously abrogate the Christian ethos of being tolerant towards the neighbours. (If someone wants to really stick it to them, quote Matthew 7:5.)
Just as prayers and psalms in the English church were incanted in Latin, within my lifetime and to understand them you had to learn to translate, there is no excuse in this day and age for anyone hearing the Islamic call to prayer and not learning what is being said.
http://praytime.info
/adhan.html
And for those of you that have lost your Latin Vulgate, here's a brilliant version of Mass.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=52gtRg0DG
N4
[quote][p][bold]bernss[/bold] wrote: well thats not true their is a mosque on preston old road and another on stanfell street that I know of.[/p][/quote]The problems is that most people see a Muslim as being someone who follows one particular sect of Islam and not realise the large diversity within the faith itself. A while ago, someone told me that there is around 70-odd different sects of Islam, all whom wish to follow in their own unique way. The main church in this town is itself a sect of Christianity that split with the principal church. I really couldn't guess at the numbers of various sects of Christianity, as a new one seems to pop up every year in the US alone. So it is of no surprise to me that a few of a particular sect would want to have their own little mosque in an house. Although, they should really have some respect for their neighbours concerns over noise. On the flip side, there is nothing stopping the Muslims of that area, complaining to the council and church, that the constant tolling of the church bells during a service, lasts longer than the call to prayer. As we are trying to get Muslims to separate their religion from politics, I am amazed that there is a detrimental comment from St Judes (Patron Saint of lost causes) who have obviously abrogate the Christian ethos of being tolerant towards the neighbours. (If someone wants to really stick it to them, quote Matthew 7:5.) Just as prayers and psalms in the English church were incanted in Latin, within my lifetime and to understand them you had to learn to translate, there is no excuse in this day and age for anyone hearing the Islamic call to prayer and not learning what is being said. http://praytime.info /adhan.html And for those of you that have lost your Latin Vulgate, here's a brilliant version of Mass. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=52gtRg0DG N4 woolywords
  • Score: -9

6:22pm Wed 22 Jan 14

mmickk says...

They are breaking the law with calling to prayer why is this place not shut down utter disgrace . If I lived next door I would call the police every time it happened or get a music system and blast it back at them. They have no need for this its just stirring up racial hatred.
They are breaking the law with calling to prayer why is this place not shut down utter disgrace . If I lived next door I would call the police every time it happened or get a music system and blast it back at them. They have no need for this its just stirring up racial hatred. mmickk
  • Score: 28

6:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Legal Beagle says...

Some of those census figures are quite remarkable. For example:

"The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449."

This means that in 2001 Muslims comprised 43% of the ward, Christians 49% and others 8%. But in 2011 the figures were 67%, 26% and 7% respectively, meaning that nearly half the Christians had gone.

"Beardwood with Lammack:
The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505."

The respective percentages here are:

2001 M 8%, C 85%, O 7%
2011 M 34%, C 57%, O 9%

Again, the proportion of Muslims has risen by over 4 times from under 1 in 10 to more than 1 in 3.

These figures represent a massive cultural change for the relevant communities. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for the Christian (i.e. white) populations to be alarmed and upset by such a change. Without considering its merits or otherwise Islam is an essentially alien religion to most English people, and to find themselves becoming an increasingly small minority in a predominantly Islamic culture is for most people an unwanted and unpleasant experience.

To some extent it would be exactly the same if the new arrivals were members of any other culture. However, my personal view is that Islam is a much more assertive and less tolerant religion than, say Christanity or Sikhism and many of its adherents are all too ready to condemn the host culture instead of practising their faith discreetly. There is little or no attempt to integrate with the host culture (which, of course is quite logical if it's seen as incompatible with and/or hostile to Islam) so that the Christian population can - justifiably to my mind - feel as though they are being driven out of the place in which many of them grew up and had families.

One can only hope that subsequent generations of Muslims will become more `English' in the way that they practise their religion, but in the meantime I have considerable sympathy for the people affected by these huge changes to their neighbourhood.
Some of those census figures are quite remarkable. For example: "The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449." This means that in 2001 Muslims comprised 43% of the ward, Christians 49% and others 8%. But in 2011 the figures were 67%, 26% and 7% respectively, meaning that nearly half the Christians had gone. "Beardwood with Lammack: The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505." The respective percentages here are: 2001 M 8%, C 85%, O 7% 2011 M 34%, C 57%, O 9% Again, the proportion of Muslims has risen by over 4 times from under 1 in 10 to more than 1 in 3. These figures represent a massive cultural change for the relevant communities. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for the Christian (i.e. white) populations to be alarmed and upset by such a change. Without considering its merits or otherwise Islam is an essentially alien religion to most English people, and to find themselves becoming an increasingly small minority in a predominantly Islamic culture is for most people an unwanted and unpleasant experience. To some extent it would be exactly the same if the new arrivals were members of any other culture. However, my personal view is that Islam is a much more assertive and less tolerant religion than, say Christanity or Sikhism and many of its adherents are all too ready to condemn the host culture instead of practising their faith discreetly. There is little or no attempt to integrate with the host culture (which, of course is quite logical if it's seen as incompatible with and/or hostile to Islam) so that the Christian population can - justifiably to my mind - feel as though they are being driven out of the place in which many of them grew up and had families. One can only hope that subsequent generations of Muslims will become more `English' in the way that they practise their religion, but in the meantime I have considerable sympathy for the people affected by these huge changes to their neighbourhood. Legal Beagle
  • Score: 25

6:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

lemnats says...

There is a chronic shortage of housing throughout the country, not just in Blackburn. It is not helped by turning residential housing into Mosques or Madrassas. This should be refused on these grounds alone, never mind the fact there is a Mosque not one hundred yards away round the corner from this one on Didsbury St, If this carries on every other house will be non residential!
There is a chronic shortage of housing throughout the country, not just in Blackburn. It is not helped by turning residential housing into Mosques or Madrassas. This should be refused on these grounds alone, never mind the fact there is a Mosque not one hundred yards away round the corner from this one on Didsbury St, If this carries on every other house will be non residential! lemnats
  • Score: 21

7:11pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Sister Wendy says...

Hang on... operated an Islamic school for 75 pupils at the premises (a Blackburn terrace house) between 5pm and 7.30pm - how does a terrace house safely hold 75 pupils (+ adults presumably)...is this not dangerous/overcrowde
d? What would happen in an emergency? I would have thought that there should be a maximum number of people allowed in...exactly how big is this terrace house?
Hang on... operated an Islamic school for 75 pupils at the premises (a Blackburn terrace house) between 5pm and 7.30pm - how does a terrace house safely hold 75 pupils (+ adults presumably)...is this not dangerous/overcrowde d? What would happen in an emergency? I would have thought that there should be a maximum number of people allowed in...exactly how big is this terrace house? Sister Wendy
  • Score: 36

7:27pm Wed 22 Jan 14

M Foster says...

TattyAnn wrote:
Hello blackburnwithdarwen

Actually, if you look at the figures you've quoted,in every ward except one, there is a proportionally significant and more consistent rise in the number of people stating that they have no religion. BwD need to be taking notice of atheists, secularists and non-believers too and acknowledge that there are more than enough places for public worship in the town.
Ah, I am pleased to see that we can at least agree on something!
[quote][p][bold]TattyAnn[/bold] wrote: Hello blackburnwithdarwen Actually, if you look at the figures you've quoted,in every ward except one, there is a proportionally significant and more consistent rise in the number of people stating that they have no religion. BwD need to be taking notice of atheists, secularists and non-believers too and acknowledge that there are more than enough places for public worship in the town.[/p][/quote]Ah, I am pleased to see that we can at least agree on something! M Foster
  • Score: 6

7:52pm Wed 22 Jan 14

M.DANNY says...

Muslim population in UK has risen in 2001 census there were 1.5 million muslim now there are 2.8 million in UK in 2011 census.
Muslim Population in UK
London 1,012,823 that's 38% of England's muslim live in London
Birmingham muslims population 234,411
Bradford muslims population is 129,041
Manchester muslims population is 79,496
Leicester muslims population is 62,441
Kirklees muslims population is 62,280
Luton muslims population is 49,991
Blackburn with Darwen muslims population is 38,817 up from 2001 census of around 28,000 muslims.
So Blackburn with Darwen muslim population has increased ten times faster than non muslim population.
Blackburn with Darwen with a population of 147,500 is the largest authority in Lancashire now with Blackpool in second place with a population of around 142,100 and Preston in third place with a population of around 140,200.
Blackburn has more mosques in Lancashire than any other town
Blackburn has 47 mosques
Preston has 14 mosques
Burnley has 10 mosques
Blackpool has 2 mosques
Nelson has 12 mosques
In other parts of England as follows
London has 371 mosques
Birmingham has 165 mosques
Bradford has 83 mosques
Manchester has 58 mosques
Leicester has 55 mosques
Muslim population in UK has risen in 2001 census there were 1.5 million muslim now there are 2.8 million in UK in 2011 census. Muslim Population in UK London 1,012,823 that's 38% of England's muslim live in London Birmingham muslims population 234,411 Bradford muslims population is 129,041 Manchester muslims population is 79,496 Leicester muslims population is 62,441 Kirklees muslims population is 62,280 Luton muslims population is 49,991 Blackburn with Darwen muslims population is 38,817 up from 2001 census of around 28,000 muslims. So Blackburn with Darwen muslim population has increased ten times faster than non muslim population. Blackburn with Darwen with a population of 147,500 is the largest authority in Lancashire now with Blackpool in second place with a population of around 142,100 and Preston in third place with a population of around 140,200. Blackburn has more mosques in Lancashire than any other town Blackburn has 47 mosques Preston has 14 mosques Burnley has 10 mosques Blackpool has 2 mosques Nelson has 12 mosques In other parts of England as follows London has 371 mosques Birmingham has 165 mosques Bradford has 83 mosques Manchester has 58 mosques Leicester has 55 mosques M.DANNY
  • Score: 13

8:04pm Wed 22 Jan 14

pwitch says...

According to Google there are 47 mosques in Blackburn area, which means 47 properties not required to pay council tax. I think there will be fewer church properties but dont have those details yet.
According to Google there are 47 mosques in Blackburn area, which means 47 properties not required to pay council tax. I think there will be fewer church properties but dont have those details yet. pwitch
  • Score: 17

9:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

Legal Beagle wrote:
Some of those census figures are quite remarkable. For example:

"The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449."

This means that in 2001 Muslims comprised 43% of the ward, Christians 49% and others 8%. But in 2011 the figures were 67%, 26% and 7% respectively, meaning that nearly half the Christians had gone.

"Beardwood with Lammack:
The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505."

The respective percentages here are:

2001 M 8%, C 85%, O 7%
2011 M 34%, C 57%, O 9%

Again, the proportion of Muslims has risen by over 4 times from under 1 in 10 to more than 1 in 3.

These figures represent a massive cultural change for the relevant communities. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for the Christian (i.e. white) populations to be alarmed and upset by such a change. Without considering its merits or otherwise Islam is an essentially alien religion to most English people, and to find themselves becoming an increasingly small minority in a predominantly Islamic culture is for most people an unwanted and unpleasant experience.

To some extent it would be exactly the same if the new arrivals were members of any other culture. However, my personal view is that Islam is a much more assertive and less tolerant religion than, say Christanity or Sikhism and many of its adherents are all too ready to condemn the host culture instead of practising their faith discreetly. There is little or no attempt to integrate with the host culture (which, of course is quite logical if it's seen as incompatible with and/or hostile to Islam) so that the Christian population can - justifiably to my mind - feel as though they are being driven out of the place in which many of them grew up and had families.

One can only hope that subsequent generations of Muslims will become more `English' in the way that they practise their religion, but in the meantime I have considerable sympathy for the people affected by these huge changes to their neighbourhood.
Yes, I was amazed myself the details that these figures show. However, I would urge anyone who is interested to visit Blackburn with Darwen’s Council website themselves. Difficult to find but by going to www.blackburn.gov.uk then entering any ward name in the search area will take you to that main page. Click that same name again to take you to those figures and more. I must add that those figures are not current and the figures to date I can only assume to be greater. Clearly showing how Blackburn with Darwen is changing forever. A more understanding and fairer attitude to unite cultures would have been preferred to bring about community cohesion rather than the current misunderstandings felt by all.
[quote][p][bold]Legal Beagle[/bold] wrote: Some of those census figures are quite remarkable. For example: "The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449." This means that in 2001 Muslims comprised 43% of the ward, Christians 49% and others 8%. But in 2011 the figures were 67%, 26% and 7% respectively, meaning that nearly half the Christians had gone. "Beardwood with Lammack: The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505." The respective percentages here are: 2001 M 8%, C 85%, O 7% 2011 M 34%, C 57%, O 9% Again, the proportion of Muslims has risen by over 4 times from under 1 in 10 to more than 1 in 3. These figures represent a massive cultural change for the relevant communities. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for the Christian (i.e. white) populations to be alarmed and upset by such a change. Without considering its merits or otherwise Islam is an essentially alien religion to most English people, and to find themselves becoming an increasingly small minority in a predominantly Islamic culture is for most people an unwanted and unpleasant experience. To some extent it would be exactly the same if the new arrivals were members of any other culture. However, my personal view is that Islam is a much more assertive and less tolerant religion than, say Christanity or Sikhism and many of its adherents are all too ready to condemn the host culture instead of practising their faith discreetly. There is little or no attempt to integrate with the host culture (which, of course is quite logical if it's seen as incompatible with and/or hostile to Islam) so that the Christian population can - justifiably to my mind - feel as though they are being driven out of the place in which many of them grew up and had families. One can only hope that subsequent generations of Muslims will become more `English' in the way that they practise their religion, but in the meantime I have considerable sympathy for the people affected by these huge changes to their neighbourhood.[/p][/quote]Yes, I was amazed myself the details that these figures show. However, I would urge anyone who is interested to visit Blackburn with Darwen’s Council website themselves. Difficult to find but by going to www.blackburn.gov.uk then entering any ward name in the search area will take you to that main page. Click that same name again to take you to those figures and more. I must add that those figures are not current and the figures to date I can only assume to be greater. Clearly showing how Blackburn with Darwen is changing forever. A more understanding and fairer attitude to unite cultures would have been preferred to bring about community cohesion rather than the current misunderstandings felt by all. blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 5

10:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

I see the truthful comments on this subject have been removed, how are we going to debate this subject if everyone's view is not taken into consideration, poor poor reporting LT, integration will never work whilst you keep hiding what local folk think!!!!!!!!
I see the truthful comments on this subject have been removed, how are we going to debate this subject if everyone's view is not taken into consideration, poor poor reporting LT, integration will never work whilst you keep hiding what local folk think!!!!!!!! Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 20

10:55pm Wed 22 Jan 14

shirtbox2003 says...

I feel I am not able to comment due to having been warned that my views may be upsetting some people.
I feel I am not able to comment due to having been warned that my views may be upsetting some people. shirtbox2003
  • Score: 12

11:03pm Wed 22 Jan 14

StopDeludingYourself says...

shirtbox2003 wrote:
I feel I am not able to comment due to having been warned that my views may be upsetting some people.
Oh go on!
[quote][p][bold]shirtbox2003[/bold] wrote: I feel I am not able to comment due to having been warned that my views may be upsetting some people.[/p][/quote]Oh go on! StopDeludingYourself
  • Score: 18

11:07pm Wed 22 Jan 14

pointed says...

StopDeludingYourself wrote:
Excluded again wrote:
The application for retrospective planning permission was refused. And this application for planning permission is recommended for refusal.

Where a planning application is not in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan it should be refused. And where a planning application is in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan, it will normally be approved. That's how the system works and has worked since the 1940s.
You are right, the system has worked in this case, the application is not appropriate and the Council has refused, where the problem lies, if if goes to a planning committee, all the bent Asian Councillors will approve it!

(by the way I am Muslim)
You guarantee us a certain number of votes, we guarantee you planning permission. Apparently this fraudulent practice is rife among certain Asian councillors.
[quote][p][bold]StopDeludingYourself[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: The application for retrospective planning permission was refused. And this application for planning permission is recommended for refusal. Where a planning application is not in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan it should be refused. And where a planning application is in line with planning guidance and the agreed local plan, it will normally be approved. That's how the system works and has worked since the 1940s.[/p][/quote]You are right, the system has worked in this case, the application is not appropriate and the Council has refused, where the problem lies, if if goes to a planning committee, all the bent Asian Councillors will approve it! (by the way I am Muslim)[/p][/quote]You guarantee us a certain number of votes, we guarantee you planning permission. Apparently this fraudulent practice is rife among certain Asian councillors. pointed
  • Score: 18

11:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . .

Blackburn with Darwen Council Census:
Religion: 2001/2011

Audley:
The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414.

Bastwell:
The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114.

Beardwood with Lammack:
The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505.

Corporation Park:
The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449.

Earcroft:
The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868.

East Rural:
The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275.

Ewood:
The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417.

Fernhurst:
The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945.

Higher Croft:
The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724.

Little Harwood:
The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519.

Livesey with Pleasington:
The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678.

Marsh House:
The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190.

Meadowhead:
The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919.

Mill Hill:
The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270.

North Turton with Tockholes:
The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914.

Queens Park:
The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668.

Roe Lee:
The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655.

Shadsworth with Whitebirk:
The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857.

Shear Brow:
The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273.

Sudell:
The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656.

Sunnyhurst:
The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346.

Wensley Fold:
The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865.

Whitehall:
The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853.

Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.
EXCELLENT ! The number of folk with no religion has risen dramatically.
*
What on earth is the point of this post ???
[quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . . Blackburn with Darwen Council Census: Religion: 2001/2011 Audley: The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414. Bastwell: The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114. Beardwood with Lammack: The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505. Corporation Park: The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449. Earcroft: The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868. East Rural: The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275. Ewood: The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417. Fernhurst: The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945. Higher Croft: The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724. Little Harwood: The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519. Livesey with Pleasington: The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678. Marsh House: The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190. Meadowhead: The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919. Mill Hill: The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270. North Turton with Tockholes: The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914. Queens Park: The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668. Roe Lee: The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655. Shadsworth with Whitebirk: The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857. Shear Brow: The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273. Sudell: The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656. Sunnyhurst: The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346. Wensley Fold: The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865. Whitehall: The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853. Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.[/p][/quote]EXCELLENT ! The number of folk with no religion has risen dramatically. * What on earth is the point of this post ??? english rose 1
  • Score: 0

11:17pm Wed 22 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

Sister Wendy wrote:
Hang on... operated an Islamic school for 75 pupils at the premises (a Blackburn terrace house) between 5pm and 7.30pm - how does a terrace house safely hold 75 pupils (+ adults presumably)...is this not dangerous/overcrowde

d? What would happen in an emergency? I would have thought that there should be a maximum number of people allowed in...exactly how big is this terrace house?
If you read the planning report 25 schoolchildren use it at any one time not 75......
[quote][p][bold]Sister Wendy[/bold] wrote: Hang on... operated an Islamic school for 75 pupils at the premises (a Blackburn terrace house) between 5pm and 7.30pm - how does a terrace house safely hold 75 pupils (+ adults presumably)...is this not dangerous/overcrowde d? What would happen in an emergency? I would have thought that there should be a maximum number of people allowed in...exactly how big is this terrace house?[/p][/quote]If you read the planning report 25 schoolchildren use it at any one time not 75...... english rose 1
  • Score: 5

11:20pm Wed 22 Jan 14

english rose 1 says...

lemnats wrote:
There is a chronic shortage of housing throughout the country, not just in Blackburn. It is not helped by turning residential housing into Mosques or Madrassas. This should be refused on these grounds alone, never mind the fact there is a Mosque not one hundred yards away round the corner from this one on Didsbury St, If this carries on every other house will be non residential!
Groan ..... planning policy in BwD does not allow the conversion of residential houses into Mosques. Simple.
[quote][p][bold]lemnats[/bold] wrote: There is a chronic shortage of housing throughout the country, not just in Blackburn. It is not helped by turning residential housing into Mosques or Madrassas. This should be refused on these grounds alone, never mind the fact there is a Mosque not one hundred yards away round the corner from this one on Didsbury St, If this carries on every other house will be non residential![/p][/quote]Groan ..... planning policy in BwD does not allow the conversion of residential houses into Mosques. Simple. english rose 1
  • Score: 12

6:35am Thu 23 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

The truth about whether or not there are lots of terraced houses is Blackburn used as mosques can be easily checked on a source independent of Blackburn with Darwen Council.

The Charity Commission has an on-line database of all registered charities. You can search it by town - say Blackburn. Then you can see exactly how many mosques are registered charities (and able to claim rate relief). And check how many are in terraced houses.There are only a couple - and they may be madrassas not mosques (its a bit hard to be sure).

But don't take my word for it. Check for yourselves.
The truth about whether or not there are lots of terraced houses is Blackburn used as mosques can be easily checked on a source independent of Blackburn with Darwen Council. The Charity Commission has an on-line database of all registered charities. You can search it by town - say Blackburn. Then you can see exactly how many mosques are registered charities (and able to claim rate relief). And check how many are in terraced houses.There are only a couple - and they may be madrassas not mosques (its a bit hard to be sure). But don't take my word for it. Check for yourselves. Excluded again
  • Score: 8

12:36pm Thu 23 Jan 14

blackburnwithdarwen says...

English rose 1 above: Let me try to explain to someone who has so embarrassingly supported a Blackburn political party akin to an unmovable object for so long. That being the misuse of a once democratic political party known in past times as The Labour Party. The unfortunate reality is that Blackburn has been governed by an opportunist who has taken advantage of a solid political stronghold that would never vote for anyone else. A free ride for life and nothing else with councillors at the end of a lead not having a clue. No need to bother about that though, even a donkey would be voted in within Blackburn’s Safe Seat political regime. The problem being that with so many ‘Safe Seat’ councillors ‘under the thumb’ it doesn’t stand a chance!

Your comment: “EXCELLENT ! The number of folk with no religion has risen dramatically.” Just proves how blind to facts you have also become!

An embarrassment to a once proud political party. Oh how I wish Blackburn had a Labour Party back again that knew how to save Blackburn from what it has become. Rather late now though. Despite it’s ‘Safe Seat’ leader eventually about to leave the damage has already been done!
English rose 1 above: Let me try to explain to someone who has so embarrassingly supported a Blackburn political party akin to an unmovable object for so long. That being the misuse of a once democratic political party known in past times as The Labour Party. The unfortunate reality is that Blackburn has been governed by an opportunist who has taken advantage of a solid political stronghold that would never vote for anyone else. A free ride for life and nothing else with councillors at the end of a lead not having a clue. No need to bother about that though, even a donkey would be voted in within Blackburn’s Safe Seat political regime. The problem being that with so many ‘Safe Seat’ councillors ‘under the thumb’ it doesn’t stand a chance! Your comment: “EXCELLENT ! The number of folk with no religion has risen dramatically.” Just proves how blind to facts you have also become! An embarrassment to a once proud political party. Oh how I wish Blackburn had a Labour Party back again that knew how to save Blackburn from what it has become. Rather late now though. Despite it’s ‘Safe Seat’ leader eventually about to leave the damage has already been done! blackburnwithdarwen
  • Score: 3

1:57pm Thu 23 Jan 14

noddy57 says...

far too many mosques already, build a few churches for a change,
far too many mosques already, build a few churches for a change, noddy57
  • Score: 4

3:00pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

noddy57 wrote:
far too many mosques already, build a few churches for a change,
No-one is stopping you. Get on with it in your community, raise the money and apply for planning permission.
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: far too many mosques already, build a few churches for a change,[/p][/quote]No-one is stopping you. Get on with it in your community, raise the money and apply for planning permission. Excluded again
  • Score: 7

5:43pm Thu 23 Jan 14

carol05 says...

dosnt matter how many muslims there are compared to Christians. this is a Christian country and we do not want ugly mosques on every corner. enoughs enough. these muslims want want want all the time. to many of them any way. mosques = schools for terrorism, apart from the bloody catawailing Christians have to suffer. how would they like it if we prayed through amplifiers. stop them now.
dosnt matter how many muslims there are compared to Christians. this is a Christian country and we do not want ugly mosques on every corner. enoughs enough. these muslims want want want all the time. to many of them any way. mosques = schools for terrorism, apart from the bloody catawailing Christians have to suffer. how would they like it if we prayed through amplifiers. stop them now. carol05
  • Score: 5

5:45pm Thu 23 Jan 14

carol05 says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
blackburnwithdarwen wrote:
Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . .

Blackburn with Darwen Council Census:
Religion: 2001/2011

Audley:
The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414.

Bastwell:
The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114.

Beardwood with Lammack:
The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505.

Corporation Park:
The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449.

Earcroft:
The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868.

East Rural:
The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275.

Ewood:
The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417.

Fernhurst:
The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945.

Higher Croft:
The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724.

Little Harwood:
The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519.

Livesey with Pleasington:
The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678.

Marsh House:
The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190.

Meadowhead:
The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919.

Mill Hill:
The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270.

North Turton with Tockholes:
The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914.

Queens Park:
The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668.

Roe Lee:
The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655.

Shadsworth with Whitebirk:
The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857.

Shear Brow:
The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273.

Sudell:
The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656.

Sunnyhurst:
The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346.

Wensley Fold:
The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865.

Whitehall:
The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853.

Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.
There is NO need for ANY more mosques at all!
just goes to show theres far to many of them living in OUR
Christian country.
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackburnwithdarwen[/bold] wrote: Jack Straw’s Safe Seat Blackburn need more mosques not less . . . Blackburn with Darwen Council Census: Religion: 2001/2011 Audley: The number of Audley residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 4680 to 6306 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2747 to 1949, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 312 to 414. Bastwell: The number of Bastwell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5430 to 6569 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 979 to 590, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 137 to 114. Beardwood with Lammack: The number of Beardwood with Lammack residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 407 to 1869 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4285 to 3131, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 355 to 505. Corporation Park: The number of Corporation Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2673 to 4604 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3034 to 1783, and the number claiming to have no religion has fallen from 481 to 449. Earcroft: The number of Earcroft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 75 to 116 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3430 to 3003, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 387 to 868. East Rural: The number of East Rural residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 13 to 10 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1611 to 1515, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 133 to 275. Ewood: The number of Ewood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 187 to 271 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5152 to 4776, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 686 to 1417. Fernhurst: The number of Fernhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 33 to 99 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 3294 to 4577, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 368 to 945. Higher Croft: The number of Higher Croft residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 130 to 246 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has increased from 5262 to 5331, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 894 to 1724. Little Harwood: The number of Little Harwood residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2186 to 3503 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2974 to 2299, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 316 to 519. Livesey with Pleasington: The number of Livesey with Pleasington residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 48 to 47 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 6011 to 5608, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 344 to 678. Marsh House: The number of Marsh House residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 122 to 108 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4829 to 4668, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 573 to 1190. Meadowhead: The number of Meadowhead residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 58 to 44 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4728 to 4413, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 396 to 919. Mill Hill: The number of Mill Hill residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 283 to 342 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4778 to 4324, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 640 to 1270. North Turton with Tockholes: The number of North Turton with Tockholes residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 11 to 23 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3389 to 3118, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 566 to 914. Queens Park: The number of Queen's Park residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 2197 to 3500 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 2410 to 2191, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 431 to 668. Roe Lee: The number of Roe Lee residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 310 to 1282 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4883 to 3834, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 400 to 655. Shadsworth with Whitebirk: The number of Shadsworth with Whitebirk residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 464 to 1220 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 5157 to 4824, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 884 to 1857. Shear Brow: The number of Shear Brow residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 5202 to 6144 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 1367 to 1010, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 194 to 273. Sudell: The number of Sudell residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 234 to 364 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4940 to 4467, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 874 to 1656. Sunnyhurst: The number of Sunnyhurst residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 255 to 177 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 4951 to 4254, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 667 to 1346. Wensley Fold: The number of Wensley Fold residents who identify themselves as Muslim has risen from 1634 to 2940 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3548 to 3064, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 508 to 865. Whitehall: The number of Whitehall residents who identify themselves as Muslim has fallen from 42 to 33 since 2001. Meanwhile the number of Christians has declined from 3242 to 2870, and the number claiming to have no religion has risen from 435 to 853. Note: The above taken from Blackburn with Darwen Council Website.[/p][/quote]There is NO need for ANY more mosques at all![/p][/quote]just goes to show theres far to many of them living in OUR Christian country. carol05
  • Score: 0

5:48pm Thu 23 Jan 14

carol05 says...

mmickk wrote:
They are breaking the law with calling to prayer why is this place not shut down utter disgrace . If I lived next door I would call the police every time it happened or get a music system and blast it back at them. They have no need for this its just stirring up racial hatred.
well said i agree. i wouldnt put up with their racket. terrorist schools.
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: They are breaking the law with calling to prayer why is this place not shut down utter disgrace . If I lived next door I would call the police every time it happened or get a music system and blast it back at them. They have no need for this its just stirring up racial hatred.[/p][/quote]well said i agree. i wouldnt put up with their racket. terrorist schools. carol05
  • Score: 3

8:30pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Reasons says...

Well there's one in Beardsworth st ,unofficial, one was reported in Langham road but no action taken and there is a new one on Whalley range near to the Islamic bookshop that's classed as a charity ....Are the planning dept aware of those ,You can tell each night around 7pm Whalley range cars parked on road outside 300 Whalley Range Milaad house .
official ones I have no problem with but like Mr Staw said no need for terrace house these days
Well there's one in Beardsworth st ,unofficial, one was reported in Langham road but no action taken and there is a new one on Whalley range near to the Islamic bookshop that's classed as a charity ....Are the planning dept aware of those ,You can tell each night around 7pm Whalley range cars parked on road outside 300 Whalley Range Milaad house . official ones I have no problem with but like Mr Staw said no need for terrace house these days Reasons
  • Score: 2

9:33pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Reasons says...

Reasons wrote:
Well there's one in Beardsworth st ,unofficial, one was reported in Langham road but no action taken and there is a new one on Whalley range near to the Islamic bookshop that's classed as a charity ....Are the planning dept aware of those ,You can tell each night around 7pm Whalley range cars parked on road outside 300 Whalley Range Milaad house .
official ones I have no problem with but like Mr Staw said no need for terrace house these days
Re this ,these are unofficial madrassas with no concern to safety levels of people in a building that is actually a house
[quote][p][bold]Reasons[/bold] wrote: Well there's one in Beardsworth st ,unofficial, one was reported in Langham road but no action taken and there is a new one on Whalley range near to the Islamic bookshop that's classed as a charity ....Are the planning dept aware of those ,You can tell each night around 7pm Whalley range cars parked on road outside 300 Whalley Range Milaad house . official ones I have no problem with but like Mr Staw said no need for terrace house these days[/p][/quote]Re this ,these are unofficial madrassas with no concern to safety levels of people in a building that is actually a house Reasons
  • Score: 2

10:35pm Thu 23 Jan 14

carol05 says...

Reasons wrote:
Well there's one in Beardsworth st ,unofficial, one was reported in Langham road but no action taken and there is a new one on Whalley range near to the Islamic bookshop that's classed as a charity ....Are the planning dept aware of those ,You can tell each night around 7pm Whalley range cars parked on road outside 300 Whalley Range Milaad house .
official ones I have no problem with but like Mr Staw said no need for terrace house these days
someone should call the police to these illegal terrorists dens. who knows what they are plotting inside. as this place seems over run with muslims they probably own the police force thats why they get away with it. corruption is everywhere.
[quote][p][bold]Reasons[/bold] wrote: Well there's one in Beardsworth st ,unofficial, one was reported in Langham road but no action taken and there is a new one on Whalley range near to the Islamic bookshop that's classed as a charity ....Are the planning dept aware of those ,You can tell each night around 7pm Whalley range cars parked on road outside 300 Whalley Range Milaad house . official ones I have no problem with but like Mr Staw said no need for terrace house these days[/p][/quote]someone should call the police to these illegal terrorists dens. who knows what they are plotting inside. as this place seems over run with muslims they probably own the police force thats why they get away with it. corruption is everywhere. carol05
  • Score: 3

3:39am Fri 24 Jan 14

tinybrfc says...

the problem here is not racial,its a problem of attitude,its always a proplem of attitude,anyone who can see the light of day will recognise that unless we change our attitudes,and I mean both races we will always have conflict
the problem here is not racial,its a problem of attitude,its always a proplem of attitude,anyone who can see the light of day will recognise that unless we change our attitudes,and I mean both races we will always have conflict tinybrfc
  • Score: 6

4:29am Fri 24 Jan 14

N4you! says...

islam zindabad
islam zindabad
islam zindabad
islam zindabad islam zindabad islam zindabad N4you!
  • Score: 3

5:09am Fri 24 Jan 14

Excluded again says...

Apparently the application for planning permission for a mosque in this house was refused by the Planning Committee last night.

The application did not meet the requirements of planning policy, so it was refused - just as it should have been.
Apparently the application for planning permission for a mosque in this house was refused by the Planning Committee last night. The application did not meet the requirements of planning policy, so it was refused - just as it should have been. Excluded again
  • Score: 8

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