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Blackburn Rovers boss Gary Bowyer 'very hopeful' over David Dunn and Markus Olsson deals

Lancashire Telegraph: David Dunn is out of contract at Blackburn Rovers David Dunn is out of contract at Blackburn Rovers

BLACKBURN Rovers boss Gary Bowyer wants the futures of David Dunn and Markus Olsson sorted as soon as possible after the out-of-contract pair did not report back for training.

Fans’ favourite Dunn and Sweden international Olsson have not been present for the first three days of pre-season as their contract talks drag on.

The duo are now officially free to sign for other clubs after their Rovers deals ran out on June 30.

But Bowyer remains ‘very hopeful’ they will commit their futures to the Ewood Park outfit.

So much so that he has handed Dunn and Olsson close-season fitness programmes designed to get them straight up to speed if and when they do return to Brockhall.

Bowyer said: “The talks are ongoing at the moment.

“We are still working away at that and we want to try and get it resolved as quickly as we can because we want them back in training.

“We don’t want people missing training and having to play catch up.

“Everyone got issued with a programme and when the two of them do come in I don’t expect them to be anywhere less than where the lads are now.

“Am I expecting them to come in? I am. I’m very hopeful, yes.”

Bowyer wants 34-year-old midfielder Dunn, who has made 366 appearances and scored 59 goals for Rovers, to stretch stay at his hometown club into a 14th season.

And Bowyer is also keen for Olsson to pen fresh terms and challenge Tommy Spurr for the left-back spot.

But he could yet face competition for Olsson’s signature as the 26-year-old has been linked with a move to Rovers’ Championship rivals Ipswich Town.

Mick McCarthy’s men are in the market for a left back after selling Aaron Cresswell to Sam Allardyce’s West Ham United.

But reports last night suggested former Crystal Palace left back Jonathan Parr sits top of Tractor Boys boss McCarthy’s shortlist.

Ruben Rochina and Corry Evans have also missed the first three days of pre-season training after being given extra time off.

But Rochina will be back at Brockhall today with Evans returning on Monday.

The Rovers squad trained on the grass for the first time yesterday.

The main group included new boys Chris Brown and Luke Varney – who was on loan at the club in the second half of last season – as well as the transfer-listed Leon Best.

Bowyer said: “There’s only really Browny who has had to be introduced to the group – so that’s a massive advantage being that tight already.

“But we’re still looking to bring in a couple more bodies and if we can get the ones we want in quickly it will settle everybody down and we can concentrate on the football.”

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8:39am Sat 5 Jul 14

Rishtonian says...

what no dingles up yet
what no dingles up yet Rishtonian
  • Score: 17

8:45am Sat 5 Jul 14

owd nick says...

Rishtonian wrote:
what no dingles up yet
Wouldn't worry too much it depends when the effect of the meths wears off.
[quote][p][bold]Rishtonian[/bold] wrote: what no dingles up yet[/p][/quote]Wouldn't worry too much it depends when the effect of the meths wears off. owd nick
  • Score: 19

9:30am Sat 5 Jul 14

Iiii1111 says...

6 extra chicken tika pies a week for Dunny should seal the deal......are we so desperate we need an over the top injury prone play 20 mins a month retiree.... Let him leave gracefully.
6 extra chicken tika pies a week for Dunny should seal the deal......are we so desperate we need an over the top injury prone play 20 mins a month retiree.... Let him leave gracefully. Iiii1111
  • Score: 7

9:38am Sat 5 Jul 14

J.C - Rishton says...

Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league). J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 0

10:20am Sat 5 Jul 14

MatthewCA says...

All looks good in the FRONT and the Middle players.

When u look at the BACK - the real holes still there, We will leak goals in those holes. I rate only Robbo and Hanley, rest all are not solid in the back.
(Jake Kean,Eastwood,Killa,
Tommy,Henly,Songo,Ol
lson), We need to assess Robbo's fitness and refex rate on rebound and collections.

If we want to be champions, we need to FIX errors in the back. see Blackburn Rovers season ticket sales 'up 30 per cent' , GB can give back a lot to FANS from the start of the next season and create a trend to top the table.
All looks good in the FRONT and the Middle players. When u look at the BACK - the real holes still there, We will leak goals in those holes. I rate only Robbo and Hanley, rest all are not solid in the back. (Jake Kean,Eastwood,Killa, Tommy,Henly,Songo,Ol lson), We need to assess Robbo's fitness and refex rate on rebound and collections. If we want to be champions, we need to FIX errors in the back. see Blackburn Rovers season ticket sales 'up 30 per cent' , GB can give back a lot to FANS from the start of the next season and create a trend to top the table. MatthewCA
  • Score: 10

10:26am Sat 5 Jul 14

jimluftas says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team. jimluftas
  • Score: 24

10:50am Sat 5 Jul 14

Captain Dreckley says...

I really don't see Marcus as a left back and certainly not one with the ability to challenge Tommy Spurr so I don't know where GB is coming from. Ultimate respect to Dunny but with his fitness levels and injury record he isn't going to be a constant in midfield where we need consistency week on week so he has to be a pay as you play deal to come on after an hour to shake things up if necessary and as we are cost cutting why add an unnecessary wage. As with other posts today we need a good natural right back and a Berg or Short figure to play alongside Hanley to develop him. As for Marcus at left back GB would be as well signing me and Dangerous Dave on a job share to cover Spurr.
I really don't see Marcus as a left back and certainly not one with the ability to challenge Tommy Spurr so I don't know where GB is coming from. Ultimate respect to Dunny but with his fitness levels and injury record he isn't going to be a constant in midfield where we need consistency week on week so he has to be a pay as you play deal to come on after an hour to shake things up if necessary and as we are cost cutting why add an unnecessary wage. As with other posts today we need a good natural right back and a Berg or Short figure to play alongside Hanley to develop him. As for Marcus at left back GB would be as well signing me and Dangerous Dave on a job share to cover Spurr. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 17

11:42am Sat 5 Jul 14

TurfMoorTom says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
And like Bumley have 6 or 7 good players? They barely had 15 players. The squad's good enough and the deciding factor will be mental strength and application throughout the season. You're (a small) part of that so chin up.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]And like Bumley have 6 or 7 good players? They barely had 15 players. The squad's good enough and the deciding factor will be mental strength and application throughout the season. You're (a small) part of that so chin up. TurfMoorTom
  • Score: -8

12:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

MatthewCA says...

USA international DeAndre Yedlin is avalibale, who can play in the right back and in the wing also, he is only 20 and a quality player which is proved in this world cup.
USA international DeAndre Yedlin is avalibale, who can play in the right back and in the wing also, he is only 20 and a quality player which is proved in this world cup. MatthewCA
  • Score: 9

12:26pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Ronaldpetercooper says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
Hi JC
Frankly I think you are spot on and we do need a couple of good signings for what remains a very leaky defence and contrary to what is said above you are not alone. I would certainly not sign Olson on and would only have Dunn on a coaching and pay based on games played contract.
I fear GB is building up confidence on a good season on a flimsy hope that Rhodes and Gestede hit it off together and that our defence will tighten up without extra support. My opinion will change if one or two of a youngsters come good but this will only happen if they are given the chance. As for Varney I wish the lad good luck and hope he is successful but doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]Hi JC Frankly I think you are spot on and we do need a couple of good signings for what remains a very leaky defence and contrary to what is said above you are not alone. I would certainly not sign Olson on and would only have Dunn on a coaching and pay based on games played contract. I fear GB is building up confidence on a good season on a flimsy hope that Rhodes and Gestede hit it off together and that our defence will tighten up without extra support. My opinion will change if one or two of a youngsters come good but this will only happen if they are given the chance. As for Varney I wish the lad good luck and hope he is successful but doubt it. Ronaldpetercooper
  • Score: 9

1:09pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jack went up says...

Ronaldpetercooper wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
Hi JC Frankly I think you are spot on and we do need a couple of good signings for what remains a very leaky defence and contrary to what is said above you are not alone. I would certainly not sign Olson on and would only have Dunn on a coaching and pay based on games played contract. I fear GB is building up confidence on a good season on a flimsy hope that Rhodes and Gestede hit it off together and that our defence will tighten up without extra support. My opinion will change if one or two of a youngsters come good but this will only happen if they are given the chance. As for Varney I wish the lad good luck and hope he is successful but doubt it.
Very strange comment, flimsy hope, anyone who saw them play together last season could see the potential
[quote][p][bold]Ronaldpetercooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]Hi JC Frankly I think you are spot on and we do need a couple of good signings for what remains a very leaky defence and contrary to what is said above you are not alone. I would certainly not sign Olson on and would only have Dunn on a coaching and pay based on games played contract. I fear GB is building up confidence on a good season on a flimsy hope that Rhodes and Gestede hit it off together and that our defence will tighten up without extra support. My opinion will change if one or two of a youngsters come good but this will only happen if they are given the chance. As for Varney I wish the lad good luck and hope he is successful but doubt it.[/p][/quote]Very strange comment, flimsy hope, anyone who saw them play together last season could see the potential jack went up
  • Score: 7

1:18pm Sat 5 Jul 14

keanoutofrovers says...

Surely a right full back and a centre half come before we even try to budget for either of these two.Unfortunately the sort of wage Dunnt would be demanding makes him too expensive and there must be better options than Olsson despite two or three good games at the end of the season.
Surely a right full back and a centre half come before we even try to budget for either of these two.Unfortunately the sort of wage Dunnt would be demanding makes him too expensive and there must be better options than Olsson despite two or three good games at the end of the season. keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 13

1:53pm Sat 5 Jul 14

J.C - Rishton says...

jimluftas wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.
You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now.

Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them.

46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend.

Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season.

Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need.

Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him.

Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two.

Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing.

Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes).

Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance.
[quote][p][bold]jimluftas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.[/p][/quote]You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now. Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them. 46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend. Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season. Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need. Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him. Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two. Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing. Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes). Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 3

2:11pm Sat 5 Jul 14

GAZHAY says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
Agreed about Olsson and Robinson who is way too slow now and overweight. As for the rest of the squad though I think with a couple more additions we will be right up there.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]Agreed about Olsson and Robinson who is way too slow now and overweight. As for the rest of the squad though I think with a couple more additions we will be right up there. GAZHAY
  • Score: 5

2:24pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Harwoodstblue says...

GAZHAY wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
Agreed about Olsson and Robinson who is way too slow now and overweight. As for the rest of the squad though I think with a couple more additions we will be right up there.
Gazhay, let's see what Robinson looks like this season first. He nearly died a year ago. I'm sure Bowyer will have had him working on his weight during the summer and hopefully can come back the Robbo of old. He's still young enough for a keeper and potentially one of the best in the division if he can regain his old form.
[quote][p][bold]GAZHAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]Agreed about Olsson and Robinson who is way too slow now and overweight. As for the rest of the squad though I think with a couple more additions we will be right up there.[/p][/quote]Gazhay, let's see what Robinson looks like this season first. He nearly died a year ago. I'm sure Bowyer will have had him working on his weight during the summer and hopefully can come back the Robbo of old. He's still young enough for a keeper and potentially one of the best in the division if he can regain his old form. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 10

2:39pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Maxrus says...

Really looking forward to this season, as many more fans are judging by the increase in ST sales. The job GB has done off the field has been nothing short of miraculous and he's making all the right noises about being more attacking-minded. Think we all agree that this season's Championship will be much stronger than last (and before you trolls react, you went up and fair play to you, that to all the decent Bonleh fans out there!). GB has made some really astute signings who could be a real force this time around but I'm not getting ahead of myself just yet. Have only two concerns, GB has to act out his positive messages on the pitch and not revert back to type when things aren't going to plan, as we saw on those matches on the run-in at the end. We need to sort out RB and cover for CH and for me, much easier said than done, would love to see a go-to leader for the young lads to look to. Always had hopes that Hanley would fill this role and maybe he still can but he will have to control his discipline much better before he can command the respect from his teammates. Apart from that, can't wait till August.
Really looking forward to this season, as many more fans are judging by the increase in ST sales. The job GB has done off the field has been nothing short of miraculous and he's making all the right noises about being more attacking-minded. Think we all agree that this season's Championship will be much stronger than last (and before you trolls react, you went up and fair play to you, that to all the decent Bonleh fans out there!). GB has made some really astute signings who could be a real force this time around but I'm not getting ahead of myself just yet. Have only two concerns, GB has to act out his positive messages on the pitch and not revert back to type when things aren't going to plan, as we saw on those matches on the run-in at the end. We need to sort out RB and cover for CH and for me, much easier said than done, would love to see a go-to leader for the young lads to look to. Always had hopes that Hanley would fill this role and maybe he still can but he will have to control his discipline much better before he can command the respect from his teammates. Apart from that, can't wait till August. Maxrus
  • Score: 9

2:59pm Sat 5 Jul 14

MattNewcastle says...

Sureky of more concern is to keep Rochina unless his wages are exorbitant.

He can fill in in midfield but for me play a great 10 role alongsude Gestede.
infinitely more all round talented than Rhodes.

Put Olsson and Dunn money into keeping him.
Sureky of more concern is to keep Rochina unless his wages are exorbitant. He can fill in in midfield but for me play a great 10 role alongsude Gestede. infinitely more all round talented than Rhodes. Put Olsson and Dunn money into keeping him. MattNewcastle
  • Score: 1

3:32pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Maxrus says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
I really don't see Marcus as a left back and certainly not one with the ability to challenge Tommy Spurr so I don't know where GB is coming from. Ultimate respect to Dunny but with his fitness levels and injury record he isn't going to be a constant in midfield where we need consistency week on week so he has to be a pay as you play deal to come on after an hour to shake things up if necessary and as we are cost cutting why add an unnecessary wage. As with other posts today we need a good natural right back and a Berg or Short figure to play alongside Hanley to develop him. As for Marcus at left back GB would be as well signing me and Dangerous Dave on a job share to cover Spurr.
Ha ha - I would offer to pay his wages to see DD having a go at himself.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: I really don't see Marcus as a left back and certainly not one with the ability to challenge Tommy Spurr so I don't know where GB is coming from. Ultimate respect to Dunny but with his fitness levels and injury record he isn't going to be a constant in midfield where we need consistency week on week so he has to be a pay as you play deal to come on after an hour to shake things up if necessary and as we are cost cutting why add an unnecessary wage. As with other posts today we need a good natural right back and a Berg or Short figure to play alongside Hanley to develop him. As for Marcus at left back GB would be as well signing me and Dangerous Dave on a job share to cover Spurr.[/p][/quote]Ha ha - I would offer to pay his wages to see DD having a go at himself. Maxrus
  • Score: 4

4:11pm Sat 5 Jul 14

I am the voice of my own god says...

What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn..
...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club
What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn.. ...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club I am the voice of my own god
  • Score: -10

4:50pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Pembina says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn..

...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club
This post doesn't make any sense whatsoever - suggest you try some Yoga instead of posting on here
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn.. ...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club[/p][/quote]This post doesn't make any sense whatsoever - suggest you try some Yoga instead of posting on here Pembina
  • Score: 7

5:57pm Sat 5 Jul 14

eddyo says...

Pembina wrote:
I am the voice of my own god wrote:
What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn..


...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club
This post doesn't make any sense whatsoever - suggest you try some Yoga instead of posting on here
How can you expect any sense from a paranoid schizophrenic. He hears voices in his head and has multiple log-ins. A classic case.
[quote][p][bold]Pembina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn.. ...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club[/p][/quote]This post doesn't make any sense whatsoever - suggest you try some Yoga instead of posting on here[/p][/quote]How can you expect any sense from a paranoid schizophrenic. He hears voices in his head and has multiple log-ins. A classic case. eddyo
  • Score: 9

6:28pm Sat 5 Jul 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn..

...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club
What's a scrapped barrell? One that has been taken to the scrap metal merchant? What a Wayne Ker.
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn.. ...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club[/p][/quote]What's a scrapped barrell? One that has been taken to the scrap metal merchant? What a Wayne Ker. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 10

7:04pm Sat 5 Jul 14

keanoutofrovers says...

I am the voice of my own god wrote:
What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn..

...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club
He has some wonderful pictures of him and his friends on a day out in Cardiff in 2002.

Not sure cameras were around last time Burnley had a day out like that.

PS you also spelt barrel wrongly as well as scraped, but well done for trying.
[quote][p][bold]I am the voice of my own god[/bold] wrote: What's that sound?.......you hear it?......sounds like the barrell being well and truly scrapped......Dunn.. ...ha ha ha ha, bloke must have some great pictures of somebody at the club[/p][/quote]He has some wonderful pictures of him and his friends on a day out in Cardiff in 2002. Not sure cameras were around last time Burnley had a day out like that. PS you also spelt barrel wrongly as well as scraped, but well done for trying. keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 9

8:17pm Sat 5 Jul 14

modan says...

Yes sign Dunn and Olsson and get rid of Leon Best a lazy player who made no impact at the club.
I am pleased Goodwillie Etuhu and campbell left Blackburn Rovers.
Yes sign Dunn and Olsson and get rid of Leon Best a lazy player who made no impact at the club. I am pleased Goodwillie Etuhu and campbell left Blackburn Rovers. modan
  • Score: 0

10:47pm Sat 5 Jul 14

owd nick says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
jimluftas wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.
You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now.

Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them.

46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend.

Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season.

Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need.

Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him.

Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two.

Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing.

Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes).

Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance.
Don't often agree with you JC but you are pretty well spot on with most of you second lot of comments.

I don't think we will do a "Burnley" the luck they had with injuries was a pure fluke and lightening doesn't strike twice, I don't agree that Dyche is a proven manager, he inherited the bulk of a small, settled squad and basically had the brains to realise that.

Don't get me wrong I really like the guy, he talks well and comes across as an exceptionally decent guy but this coming season will really test his tactics and man management skills.

Like many other Rovers fans, myself included, you hit the nail on the head, clean sheets don't loose games so the defence has to be strengthened, but it simply might be that the players GB wants aren't available yet or he has a few ideas regarding current members of the squad.

No-one is going to come in for Hanley, he's way too raw and makes too many errors and if someone comes in for Rhodes? Well I won't pretend that I won't be disappointed if he goes, but that's football, you adjust to what you have.

Personally I prefer to look at the positives rather than the negatives, this is yet again going to be a tough, exciting league and I don't see any reason why we can't be challenging throughout the season.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimluftas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.[/p][/quote]You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now. Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them. 46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend. Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season. Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need. Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him. Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two. Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing. Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes). Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance.[/p][/quote]Don't often agree with you JC but you are pretty well spot on with most of you second lot of comments. I don't think we will do a "Burnley" the luck they had with injuries was a pure fluke and lightening doesn't strike twice, I don't agree that Dyche is a proven manager, he inherited the bulk of a small, settled squad and basically had the brains to realise that. Don't get me wrong I really like the guy, he talks well and comes across as an exceptionally decent guy but this coming season will really test his tactics and man management skills. Like many other Rovers fans, myself included, you hit the nail on the head, clean sheets don't loose games so the defence has to be strengthened, but it simply might be that the players GB wants aren't available yet or he has a few ideas regarding current members of the squad. No-one is going to come in for Hanley, he's way too raw and makes too many errors and if someone comes in for Rhodes? Well I won't pretend that I won't be disappointed if he goes, but that's football, you adjust to what you have. Personally I prefer to look at the positives rather than the negatives, this is yet again going to be a tough, exciting league and I don't see any reason why we can't be challenging throughout the season. owd nick
  • Score: 3

12:33am Sun 6 Jul 14

Angry From Accrington says...

I won't lose too much sleep over the loss of Dunn or ollsen if it means we can afford to keep Rueben Rochina. This boy is class.
I won't lose too much sleep over the loss of Dunn or ollsen if it means we can afford to keep Rueben Rochina. This boy is class. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -1

9:17am Sun 6 Jul 14

Angry From Accrington says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
Have you returned from Spain to make these observations and assessments or has Dangerous David given you this insight? As it happens, you are correct that we need a right back and cover at centre back but those of us who go to the games see more reasons to believe than those who just revel in dragging us down.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]Have you returned from Spain to make these observations and assessments or has Dangerous David given you this insight? As it happens, you are correct that we need a right back and cover at centre back but those of us who go to the games see more reasons to believe than those who just revel in dragging us down. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 1

11:32am Sun 6 Jul 14

roverrite says...

We must keep dunny he is one of the better players to have around the club and dressing room a winner, granted not fit enough for most games but a game changer and big game player.
We must keep dunny he is one of the better players to have around the club and dressing room a winner, granted not fit enough for most games but a game changer and big game player. roverrite
  • Score: 1

11:35am Sun 6 Jul 14

roverrite says...

keanoutofrovers wrote:
Surely a right full back and a centre half come before we even try to budget for either of these two.Unfortunately the sort of wage Dunnt would be demanding makes him too expensive and there must be better options than Olsson despite two or three good games at the end of the season.
Crying out for a right back and a centre half, but a decent goalkeeper is paramount
[quote][p][bold]keanoutofrovers[/bold] wrote: Surely a right full back and a centre half come before we even try to budget for either of these two.Unfortunately the sort of wage Dunnt would be demanding makes him too expensive and there must be better options than Olsson despite two or three good games at the end of the season.[/p][/quote]Crying out for a right back and a centre half, but a decent goalkeeper is paramount roverrite
  • Score: 0

11:59am Sun 6 Jul 14

flowersorseaman? says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
6 extra chicken tika pies a week for Dunny should seal the deal......are we so desperate we need an over the top injury prone play 20 mins a month retiree.... Let him leave gracefully.
Please f*** off you dingle c***s
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: 6 extra chicken tika pies a week for Dunny should seal the deal......are we so desperate we need an over the top injury prone play 20 mins a month retiree.... Let him leave gracefully.[/p][/quote]Please f*** off you dingle c***s flowersorseaman?
  • Score: 0

12:13pm Sun 6 Jul 14

roverstid says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
jimluftas wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.
You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now.

Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them.

46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend.

Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season.

Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need.

Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him.

Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two.

Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing.

Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes).

Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance.
Taking all said on board and great the convo is concentrated on the Football, but isn't it a bit too early for speculation?

Unless I am mistaken GB is still looking to recruit. Agreed on Olsson, don't rate him and frustrated GB only appears to see the good in all his existing players - mere application can't replace either natural talent or guarantee better results - but the transfer window HAS just opened and we can hope he can find a few more gems to cover our obvious defensive frailties that any team who've done their homework can currently mercilessly exploit.

Give him a chance - we're a month away from Season starts and he's already proven he has the ability to find those rare hidden gems like Conway, Gestede and Spurr.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimluftas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.[/p][/quote]You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now. Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them. 46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend. Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season. Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need. Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him. Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two. Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing. Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes). Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance.[/p][/quote]Taking all said on board and great the convo is concentrated on the Football, but isn't it a bit too early for speculation? Unless I am mistaken GB is still looking to recruit. Agreed on Olsson, don't rate him and frustrated GB only appears to see the good in all his existing players - mere application can't replace either natural talent or guarantee better results - but the transfer window HAS just opened and we can hope he can find a few more gems to cover our obvious defensive frailties that any team who've done their homework can currently mercilessly exploit. Give him a chance - we're a month away from Season starts and he's already proven he has the ability to find those rare hidden gems like Conway, Gestede and Spurr. roverstid
  • Score: 0

12:36pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Harwoodstblue says...

roverstid wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
jimluftas wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.
You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now.

Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them.

46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend.

Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season.

Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need.

Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him.

Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two.

Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing.

Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes).

Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance.
Taking all said on board and great the convo is concentrated on the Football, but isn't it a bit too early for speculation?

Unless I am mistaken GB is still looking to recruit. Agreed on Olsson, don't rate him and frustrated GB only appears to see the good in all his existing players - mere application can't replace either natural talent or guarantee better results - but the transfer window HAS just opened and we can hope he can find a few more gems to cover our obvious defensive frailties that any team who've done their homework can currently mercilessly exploit.

Give him a chance - we're a month away from Season starts and he's already proven he has the ability to find those rare hidden gems like Conway, Gestede and Spurr.
Agreed we need a good right back and cover for injuries but I think we invited pressure last season by sitting back. We could see a much better defensive performance this time as it looks like Bowyer is going to be much more attack minded. This in itself should take pressure off the defence rather than trying to defend a lead for the whole of the second half. Look how much better we were as a team those last dozen games.
[quote][p][bold]roverstid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimluftas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]I think you're on your own in being 'very worried' about next season. The rest of us are excited. The signings so far will be on low wages and if it doesn't work out then, like judge they will probably be moved on without any hassle. The core of the squad is already there, without a lot of money I can't see us signing many that will go straight into the team.[/p][/quote]You are way to simplistic in your assesment about moving low wage players on - it is up or bust this season. This time next year we will lose another £8m in TV revenue and also a further £2m in allowance in subsidy allowances from our owners so we will have to find another £10m in savings, just to remain in the same (dire) financial situation that we have now. Don't get me wrong, I think we have some great players for this division but just not enough of them. 46 tough games in a long season and you need a decent squad and and most importantly a team that can defend. Look at QPR, terrible virtually all season yet they managed to squeek up at Wembly - thanks to all the clean sheets they kept throughout the season. Try to be impartial for a min and compare our squad to Leicesters squad of last season - its is light years behind (overall) and if you seriously think we have a good chance of finishing top 2 then that is the quality of squad level you need. Alot of fans on here will point to Burnley and say - look at them though, they had a poxy squad and they went up. But the reality is different, yes they got lucky with very few injuries, especially in the first two thirds of the season but they had 2 of the most consistent strikers in the league, the best (or 2nd best manager) and (most importantly) one the best defences. Compare that to our defence, we let in over 60 goals (more than the perious season) and we have lost Dann who played more than half the games and we can't afford to replace him. Basically, if you can't defend then you can't finish a 46 game season in the top two. Also, alot of other clubs have got their finances in place over the last few years and are now able to genuinely strengthen their squad rather than just tinker round the outer edges like we are doing. Also, you are presuming that we are able to hold onto Rhodes or Hanley - what happens if a PL club comes in for either and they say they wanna go - that would leave a massive hole in the team which we wouldnt have the finances to go out and replace (even if we received £10m for Rhodes). Play offs, quite possibly - top two, no chance.[/p][/quote]Taking all said on board and great the convo is concentrated on the Football, but isn't it a bit too early for speculation? Unless I am mistaken GB is still looking to recruit. Agreed on Olsson, don't rate him and frustrated GB only appears to see the good in all his existing players - mere application can't replace either natural talent or guarantee better results - but the transfer window HAS just opened and we can hope he can find a few more gems to cover our obvious defensive frailties that any team who've done their homework can currently mercilessly exploit. Give him a chance - we're a month away from Season starts and he's already proven he has the ability to find those rare hidden gems like Conway, Gestede and Spurr.[/p][/quote]Agreed we need a good right back and cover for injuries but I think we invited pressure last season by sitting back. We could see a much better defensive performance this time as it looks like Bowyer is going to be much more attack minded. This in itself should take pressure off the defence rather than trying to defend a lead for the whole of the second half. Look how much better we were as a team those last dozen games. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

2:58pm Sun 6 Jul 14

keanoutofrovers says...

roverrite wrote:
keanoutofrovers wrote:
Surely a right full back and a centre half come before we even try to budget for either of these two.Unfortunately the sort of wage Dunnt would be demanding makes him too expensive and there must be better options than Olsson despite two or three good games at the end of the season.
Crying out for a right back and a centre half, but a decent goalkeeper is paramount
Robinson is perfectly fine, the only problem is he will be a little expensive, and I wouldn't have a problem with Kean playing. Ok so he made a few mistakes and his kicking was woeful at times but he has potential. Eastwood, no thanks.

One thing Robinson can do is organise a back four, always shouting and instructing them. Can hear him from the stands. Few keepers do this and its so important as they have the best view of the defence.
[quote][p][bold]roverrite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keanoutofrovers[/bold] wrote: Surely a right full back and a centre half come before we even try to budget for either of these two.Unfortunately the sort of wage Dunnt would be demanding makes him too expensive and there must be better options than Olsson despite two or three good games at the end of the season.[/p][/quote]Crying out for a right back and a centre half, but a decent goalkeeper is paramount[/p][/quote]Robinson is perfectly fine, the only problem is he will be a little expensive, and I wouldn't have a problem with Kean playing. Ok so he made a few mistakes and his kicking was woeful at times but he has potential. Eastwood, no thanks. One thing Robinson can do is organise a back four, always shouting and instructing them. Can hear him from the stands. Few keepers do this and its so important as they have the best view of the defence. keanoutofrovers
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4:49pm Sun 6 Jul 14

dangerous dave says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!!

I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless.

Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley).

Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward??

I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now.

Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).
Have you returned from Spain to make these observations and assessments or has Dangerous David given you this insight? As it happens, you are correct that we need a right back and cover at centre back but those of us who go to the games see more reasons to believe than those who just revel in dragging us down.
put a bib on and stop dribbling!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we are really serious about signing plastic Ollson again - what a load of cr@p. He was pi$$ poor for the majority of the 3 years he's been at the club. He is 26 years old, in his prime, out of contract and hardly any other clubs in the world are interested in signing him - that says it all!!! I would rather have Josh Morris as backup to Spurr - he is young, could improve further, is home grown, can play in many positions and is no doubt much cheaper than the Swedish Tommy Talentless. Getting very worried about this coming season - I think the bookies have us pegged about right at 9th favs (and thats if we can hang onto Rhodes or even Hanley). Dunny I can understand as he still has loads of ability, even though he is almost always injured but I would have signed him instead of Varney as his appointment is surley pointless after we signed Brown as the 3rd forward?? I know moneys really tight but signing the likes of Varney, Dunn and Ollson is not going to turn this squad into the next Leicester, infact as much as it pains me to say it, not even close to the Burnley side of last season - more like Watford or Middlesborough, teams that have 6 or 7 good players but the rest are just ave or total cr@p - thats not going to get you a top 2 place in a 46 game season. You need 14 or 15 GOOD PLAYERS not just 6 or 7 as we have now. Instead of signing cr@p like Varney or Ollson we should be trying to buy another 1st team right back, back up centre half and I would also sell 2 goal keepers and try to bring in a decent 1st team keeper (Robinson, been a great keeper but now over weight and past it and huge wages, the other 2 just not upto the standard of a team wanting to be at the top of the league).[/p][/quote]Have you returned from Spain to make these observations and assessments or has Dangerous David given you this insight? As it happens, you are correct that we need a right back and cover at centre back but those of us who go to the games see more reasons to believe than those who just revel in dragging us down.[/p][/quote]put a bib on and stop dribbling!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave
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7:48pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Angry From Accrington says...

I note that there has been a typically intelligent and insightful post from poor little David. I am sorely tempted to reply to him but I did promise his carers that I would refrain from doing so as it tends to upset him and cause him to mess his pants
I note that there has been a typically intelligent and insightful post from poor little David. I am sorely tempted to reply to him but I did promise his carers that I would refrain from doing so as it tends to upset him and cause him to mess his pants Angry From Accrington
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