Paul Wheelock column: Ignore the points, Blackburn Rovers are making progress

Lancashire Telegraph: Gary Bowyer Gary Bowyer

BLACKBURN Rovers’ position in the Championship at this stage last season? That would be eighth with 43 points after 30 matches.

Fast forward 12 months and their position now is? That would be 10th with exactly the same amount of points and having played exactly the same amount of games.

But do not think for one minute that progress has not been made.

Whereas this time last year Rovers were only four points away from the play-off places – as they are now – tellingly they were also just nine points above the drop spots and one bad run away from being dragged into a relegation scrap.

That bad run transpired, of course, and had results not improved after Gary Bowyer was placed in caretaker charge for a second time, the club would have suffered a disastrous second successive relegation.

With Bowyer now in permanent charge of Rovers, there is no danger of that happening this season given the gap to third-from-bottom Charlton Athletic going into the final third of the campaign is 19 points.

Bowyer deserves credit, then, for bringing the stability the club so desperately craved.

The challenge now facing the Rovers boss and his players is whether they can build on the solid foundations they have put down and go on to claim a top six spot.

But it is a huge challenge.

Rewind 12 months and all four play-off positions were up for grabs.

But one glance at the standings today and it becomes apparently clear that Leicester City, Burnley, QPR, Derby County and Nottingham Forest have the top five places sewn all but sewn up.

That leaves just sixth spot to play for.

And with teams of the experience and quality of Wigan Athletic and Brighton and Hove Albion also vying for it, the odds are against Rovers.

But even if they do not go up this season Bowyer has developed a side that has scope to improve next season.

And with Financial Fair Play penalties a very real prospect come January, this is the route that Rovers were right to go down – bringing in young, committed players, on sensible wages, with re-sale value.

Bowyer has excelled at this – think the acquisitions of Tom Cairney, Corry Evans, Ben Marshall, Tommy Spurr and Rudy Gestede – while the club itself is better run that it was a year ago as proven by its dealings in the January transfer window.

Yes, there is still a lot of work to do and yes, there are some testing times ahead.

But there is no doubt that progress has been made – no matter what the tables tell you.

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2:30pm Thu 13 Feb 14

kazluvsrovers says...

I don't think Rovers are good enough to go up this year but I still feel GB has been a godsend and we should be in the running for promotion next season,
the young team he has put together are a credit to him.
Long may he continue as our Manager...
I don't think Rovers are good enough to go up this year but I still feel GB has been a godsend and we should be in the running for promotion next season, the young team he has put together are a credit to him. Long may he continue as our Manager... kazluvsrovers

2:34pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Harwoodstblue says...

"The challenge now facing the Rovers boss and his players is whether they can build on the solid foundations they have put down and go on to claim a top six spot"

For me it's too early to go up. We've seen what happens to teams (not very far away from here) who go up and aren't equipped for life the Prem. We need another season at least to consolidate, gel and to gain more experience as a squad before we can start thinking about promotion.
Now wouldn't it be embarrassing to come straight back down like we all know who.
"The challenge now facing the Rovers boss and his players is whether they can build on the solid foundations they have put down and go on to claim a top six spot" For me it's too early to go up. We've seen what happens to teams (not very far away from here) who go up and aren't equipped for life the Prem. We need another season at least to consolidate, gel and to gain more experience as a squad before we can start thinking about promotion. Now wouldn't it be embarrassing to come straight back down like we all know who. Harwoodstblue

2:37pm Thu 13 Feb 14

crankitup says...

we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot....

i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around.

promotion this season...NO!....prom
otion next season...DOUBTFUL...
. especially after the summer fire sale.
we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot.... i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around. promotion this season...NO!....prom otion next season...DOUBTFUL... . especially after the summer fire sale. crankitup

2:43pm Thu 13 Feb 14

mammamiauk says...

kazluvsrovers wrote:
I don't think Rovers are good enough to go up this year but I still feel GB has been a godsend and we should be in the running for promotion next season, the young team he has put together are a credit to him. Long may he continue as our Manager...
I whole-heartedly agree. GB was given a huge responsibility when he took over as he has had to deal with all the mess that has been left and I really wish him well.

Correct me if I am wrong but Rovers would not have had more debts accumulating if the owners had not been wrongly advised which had resulted in the sacking of various Managers and pay-outs, players' agents, etc.

RTID
[quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: I don't think Rovers are good enough to go up this year but I still feel GB has been a godsend and we should be in the running for promotion next season, the young team he has put together are a credit to him. Long may he continue as our Manager...[/p][/quote]I whole-heartedly agree. GB was given a huge responsibility when he took over as he has had to deal with all the mess that has been left and I really wish him well. Correct me if I am wrong but Rovers would not have had more debts accumulating if the owners had not been wrongly advised which had resulted in the sacking of various Managers and pay-outs, players' agents, etc. RTID mammamiauk

2:43pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Harwoodstblue says...

crankitup wrote:
we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot....

i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around.

promotion this season...NO!....prom

otion next season...DOUBTFUL...

. especially after the summer fire sale.
IMO the problem has been we are a new, young team still learning to play together. Consistency will come the more we play together and as we gain more experience. Bowyer has done well to get so far in a few short months but next season we should see a much better team and performances.
Rome wasn't built in a day and some have no patience.
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot.... i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around. promotion this season...NO!....prom otion next season...DOUBTFUL... . especially after the summer fire sale.[/p][/quote]IMO the problem has been we are a new, young team still learning to play together. Consistency will come the more we play together and as we gain more experience. Bowyer has done well to get so far in a few short months but next season we should see a much better team and performances. Rome wasn't built in a day and some have no patience. Harwoodstblue

2:52pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Tugay's Understudy says...

My issue is, last season the league was clearly more competitive, with all the teams being close to each other points-wise. This season, gaps between the top and bottom clubs have emerged, and unfortunately (or luckily, depending on how you look at it), we find ourselves very much part of the "middle pack". Considering the league isn't as tight as last year, you'd have expected us to pick up a few more points, especially when you consider the number of points we've thrown away, and we aren't a team who wins games when we don't deserve to. This lack of cutting edge has been our undoing so far this season and I hope we can become more ruthless. Had Bowyer left Williamson out the team and been less negative over Christmas, who knows, we may be in a better position. Hopefully now it's lessons learned, leave Willo out, go at teams a bit more and try and get three points on the board when we have the chance. If I see us sitting back vs theDingles I will truly despair and they will take advantage of this. Dyche is a good manager and he'll undo any negativity. Time to step up Bowyer and the team, the play-offs are in our grasp, lets start going for the win and put the Dingles back in their place.
My issue is, last season the league was clearly more competitive, with all the teams being close to each other points-wise. This season, gaps between the top and bottom clubs have emerged, and unfortunately (or luckily, depending on how you look at it), we find ourselves very much part of the "middle pack". Considering the league isn't as tight as last year, you'd have expected us to pick up a few more points, especially when you consider the number of points we've thrown away, and we aren't a team who wins games when we don't deserve to. This lack of cutting edge has been our undoing so far this season and I hope we can become more ruthless. Had Bowyer left Williamson out the team and been less negative over Christmas, who knows, we may be in a better position. Hopefully now it's lessons learned, leave Willo out, go at teams a bit more and try and get three points on the board when we have the chance. If I see us sitting back vs theDingles I will truly despair and they will take advantage of this. Dyche is a good manager and he'll undo any negativity. Time to step up Bowyer and the team, the play-offs are in our grasp, lets start going for the win and put the Dingles back in their place. Tugay's Understudy

2:56pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Tugay's Understudy says...

crankitup wrote:
we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot....

i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around.

promotion this season...NO!....prom

otion next season...DOUBTFUL...

. especially after the summer fire sale.
Bowyer needs to be more ruthless and give players a true bollocking when they've underperformed. The players need a winning mentality and to know that dropping points vs teams below us/around us just isn't good enough. We have the quality in the individuals so there's no reason we shouldn't be higher in the table. We've dropped points and cost us wins all by ourselves, not by being outdone by good teams. Rectify these mistakes and instil a more determined attitude and we'd be up there. (Easier said than done)
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot.... i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around. promotion this season...NO!....prom otion next season...DOUBTFUL... . especially after the summer fire sale.[/p][/quote]Bowyer needs to be more ruthless and give players a true bollocking when they've underperformed. The players need a winning mentality and to know that dropping points vs teams below us/around us just isn't good enough. We have the quality in the individuals so there's no reason we shouldn't be higher in the table. We've dropped points and cost us wins all by ourselves, not by being outdone by good teams. Rectify these mistakes and instil a more determined attitude and we'd be up there. (Easier said than done) Tugay's Understudy

3:16pm Thu 13 Feb 14

look.up.blackburn says...

Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on.

You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements.

You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League.

And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there.

Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.
Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on. You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements. You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League. And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there. Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised. look.up.blackburn

3:32pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

Paul Wheelock, I could not have put Rovers progress better, 100% a more stable club, in the last twelve months we have bought good young hungry championship players and seen deadbeat money grabbers going out, will we go up this season I very much doubt it as consistency is the key to this league, GB could go on an all out attack till the end of the season to try and get the last play off spot, he has nothing to lose, next season is when we should see us in the top six for most of the season and then get us up there.
One added bonus if we stay down this season is we get two more local Derbys with the Dingles again next season!!!!
Paul Wheelock, I could not have put Rovers progress better, 100% a more stable club, in the last twelve months we have bought good young hungry championship players and seen deadbeat money grabbers going out, will we go up this season I very much doubt it as consistency is the key to this league, GB could go on an all out attack till the end of the season to try and get the last play off spot, he has nothing to lose, next season is when we should see us in the top six for most of the season and then get us up there. One added bonus if we stay down this season is we get two more local Derbys with the Dingles again next season!!!! Lancs - pensioner

4:35pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Only1Garner says...

LET do us all a favour and get a better picture of GB, this one reminds me of a blow up doll.
LET do us all a favour and get a better picture of GB, this one reminds me of a blow up doll. Only1Garner

4:49pm Thu 13 Feb 14

owd nick says...

crankitup wrote:
we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot....

i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around.

promotion this season...NO!....prom

otion next season...DOUBTFUL...

. especially after the summer fire sale.
Anyone who expects or even expected promotion this season needs their bumps felt.

Until GB took over this club was a total car crash, too many players who were here for the money, Shebby the snake with his fingers in the till, disillusioned fans fighting the club and themselves, nothing but doom, gloom and distrust.

The changes he has made will take time to gel, there is no way you, I or anyone can predict what will happen next season, and as for "fire sale", well, it's as though that's what you are hoping for to prove you right.

Isn't it about time you forgot the past and looked forward, you can't do anything about the past, it's done and dusted, the future hasn't happened yet.
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: we've gone from promotion contenders at the start of the season to play-off contenders from mid season and on the final run in out siders for a play-off spot.... i agree that we come on leaps and bounds from the previous seasons but all the inconsistency has cost us dear....we put out near enough the same squad week in week out and sometimes they would play their hearts out and the week after they seemed as if they just couldn't be a*sed, and that's hard to get your head around. promotion this season...NO!....prom otion next season...DOUBTFUL... . especially after the summer fire sale.[/p][/quote]Anyone who expects or even expected promotion this season needs their bumps felt. Until GB took over this club was a total car crash, too many players who were here for the money, Shebby the snake with his fingers in the till, disillusioned fans fighting the club and themselves, nothing but doom, gloom and distrust. The changes he has made will take time to gel, there is no way you, I or anyone can predict what will happen next season, and as for "fire sale", well, it's as though that's what you are hoping for to prove you right. Isn't it about time you forgot the past and looked forward, you can't do anything about the past, it's done and dusted, the future hasn't happened yet. owd nick

5:19pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

look.up.blackburn wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Paul Wheelock, I could not have put Rovers progress better, 100% a more stable club, in the last twelve months we have bought good young hungry championship players and seen deadbeat money grabbers going out, will we go up this season I very much doubt it as consistency is the key to this league, GB could go on an all out attack till the end of the season to try and get the last play off spot, he has nothing to lose, next season is when we should see us in the top six for most of the season and then get us up there.
One added bonus if we stay down this season is we get two more local Derbys with the Dingles again next season!!!!
And here he is.... right on cue, Captain Bedwetter with his deluded ramblings about Blackburn Rovers and their stability and progress and top six next time, blah blah blah.

Why don't you stop making yourself depressed by building your club up to be something it can no longer be. You are the laughingstock of English football. You are 10th in the Championship, 16 points behind the Clarets, 20 goals behind the clarets, 8 league places behind the Clarets, £56million in debt, and facing a transfer embargo next season.

Your entire season now depends on your cup final against us on the 9th of March, without that you might as well go on holiday now.

The clock is ticking old man, and in 24 days we will finally snatch that urine stained 34 year comfort blanket out of your nicotine stained claws leaving you with nothing left. Promotion for us and Rovers "staying down forever" will be the icing on the cake.

Enjoy the derby by the way, I hope its not the last one you will see in your lifetime.
Well we'll look.up.Blackburn, you are a clever boy, just to put you straight on a couple of things, your the deluded rambler, I'm on here posting my opinion to BRFC fans, why you don't take yourself back into the Burnlee pages where you belong, as for the cup final in March, why a cup final, it's just a game against a team who have not beaten us in 35 years (soon to be 36).
As you keep boringly pointing out daily on here, our debts are our business, we have a fantastic stadium unlike yourselves, we have some of the best training facility's in the World never mined the country unlike your council pitches at Gawthorpe, no young man go away and worry about your cesspit and leave us to watch our own rebuilding programme.
P.S. Perhaps i should change my post name though because I don't smoke (filthy habit) and I'm due to run the London marathon this year, care to join me young man?
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: Paul Wheelock, I could not have put Rovers progress better, 100% a more stable club, in the last twelve months we have bought good young hungry championship players and seen deadbeat money grabbers going out, will we go up this season I very much doubt it as consistency is the key to this league, GB could go on an all out attack till the end of the season to try and get the last play off spot, he has nothing to lose, next season is when we should see us in the top six for most of the season and then get us up there. One added bonus if we stay down this season is we get two more local Derbys with the Dingles again next season!!!![/p][/quote]And here he is.... right on cue, Captain Bedwetter with his deluded ramblings about Blackburn Rovers and their stability and progress and top six next time, blah blah blah. Why don't you stop making yourself depressed by building your club up to be something it can no longer be. You are the laughingstock of English football. You are 10th in the Championship, 16 points behind the Clarets, 20 goals behind the clarets, 8 league places behind the Clarets, £56million in debt, and facing a transfer embargo next season. Your entire season now depends on your cup final against us on the 9th of March, without that you might as well go on holiday now. The clock is ticking old man, and in 24 days we will finally snatch that urine stained 34 year comfort blanket out of your nicotine stained claws leaving you with nothing left. Promotion for us and Rovers "staying down forever" will be the icing on the cake. Enjoy the derby by the way, I hope its not the last one you will see in your lifetime.[/p][/quote]Well we'll look.up.Blackburn, you are a clever boy, just to put you straight on a couple of things, your the deluded rambler, I'm on here posting my opinion to BRFC fans, why you don't take yourself back into the Burnlee pages where you belong, as for the cup final in March, why a cup final, it's just a game against a team who have not beaten us in 35 years (soon to be 36). As you keep boringly pointing out daily on here, our debts are our business, we have a fantastic stadium unlike yourselves, we have some of the best training facility's in the World never mined the country unlike your council pitches at Gawthorpe, no young man go away and worry about your cesspit and leave us to watch our own rebuilding programme. P.S. Perhaps i should change my post name though because I don't smoke (filthy habit) and I'm due to run the London marathon this year, care to join me young man? Lancs - pensioner

6:25pm Thu 13 Feb 14

HoghtonRover123 says...

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6:26pm Thu 13 Feb 14

HoghtonRover123 says...

You cannot compare the 2 directly.

In that case after 9 games last season we were top now where we this season? Not top so does that mean we didn't make progress?

The time to compare is at the end of the season.

Points after 46 games, players in, players out, club media news.

At the end of this season I'll be saying that we have had a solid season, foundations built for top 6 next season. Deadwood out, fresh young players in alongside some media coverage which has been positive.
You cannot compare the 2 directly. In that case after 9 games last season we were top now where we this season? Not top so does that mean we didn't make progress? The time to compare is at the end of the season. Points after 46 games, players in, players out, club media news. At the end of this season I'll be saying that we have had a solid season, foundations built for top 6 next season. Deadwood out, fresh young players in alongside some media coverage which has been positive. HoghtonRover123

6:58pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Angry From Accrington says...

Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out
Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out Angry From Accrington

7:01pm Thu 13 Feb 14

burnleys gonna get yer says...

look.up.blackburn wrote:
Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on.

You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements.

You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League.

And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there.

Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.
lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on. You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements. You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League. And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there. Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.[/p][/quote]lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground burnleys gonna get yer

7:08pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Angry From Accrington says...

Real progress would be getting us back to where we were in the league before the big bad bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out. You have a lot to answer for.
Real progress would be getting us back to where we were in the league before the big bad bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out. You have a lot to answer for. Angry From Accrington

7:35pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Angry From Accrington says...

burnleys gonna get yer wrote:
look.up.blackburn wrote:
Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on.

You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements.

You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League.

And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there.

Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.
lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground
You is a proper nobwit innit? A great representation of the burnlah intelligence
[quote][p][bold]burnleys gonna get yer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on. You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements. You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League. And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there. Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.[/p][/quote]lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground[/p][/quote]You is a proper nobwit innit? A great representation of the burnlah intelligence Angry From Accrington

7:44pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Not_A_Loon_From_Pune says...

burnleys gonna get yer wrote:
look.up.blackburn wrote:
Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on.

You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements.

You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League.

And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there.

Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.
lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground
Can you translate this into English dunderhead? On second thoughts don't bother - it's just the ramblings of a deluded dingle.
[quote][p][bold]burnleys gonna get yer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on. You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements. You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League. And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there. Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.[/p][/quote]lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground[/p][/quote]Can you translate this into English dunderhead? On second thoughts don't bother - it's just the ramblings of a deluded dingle. Not_A_Loon_From_Pune

9:32pm Thu 13 Feb 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

burnleys gonna get yer wrote:
look.up.blackburn wrote:
Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on.

You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements.

You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League.

And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there.

Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.
lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground
holf 9?

Lord above. a dingle so numb it types in its medieval cave language.
[quote][p][bold]burnleys gonna get yer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on. You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements. You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League. And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there. Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.[/p][/quote]lmfao your proper funny m8 ive been laffin me head off all day seeing u wind up the nodads who r so thick they dont realise the pounding we gonna give em.heard a rumor there gonna be more clarets their then bstards and we takin that cr@ppy little stand over at half time.u up for the chicken fancy dress?if u are dont forget miners at holf 9 for ale sesh before bus to that 3 sided dump they call a ground[/p][/quote]holf 9? Lord above. a dingle so numb it types in its medieval cave language. more bans than ray - brfc lxxv

11:02pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Forever Blue & White says...

look.up.blackburn wrote:
Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on.

You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements.

You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League.

And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there.

Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.
What a load of tosh you talk! Never mind glass half empty yours is positively dry! I know your really Victor Meldrew LOL
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: Absolutely no progress here at all I'm afraid. Same position, same points, same excuses a year on. You insisted that following relegation you would keep your squad together and bounce back at the first opportunity. You failed, finishing an embarrassing 17th and only surviving on the last day of the season. Your squad was then systematically dismantled and replaced with cheaper, poorer replacements. You then insisted that your first Championship season was a "transition year" and that you would rebuild with the aim of achieving automatic promotion at the second attempt. You began your second season in the Championship claiming to be up their with the favourites for promotion while little old Burnley (minus Charlie Austin) would struggle to score goals and would end up fighting relegation. As the season progresses, and Burnley begin their fantastic rise to the top of the league your sights have to be lowered somewhat as you drift aimlessly in mid-table, now the play-off's are seen as your route to the Premier League. And now we are approaching the business end of the season your sights have lowered even further with the acceptance than perhaps only that last play-off spot now remains. A must-win game against Middlesbrough was likely to be your last chance and look what happened there. Progress? What a load of garbage once again from the Lancashire Telegraph. This is a mid-table Championship club at best as long as Venky's are willing to fund a loss-making business. As soon as they remove their backing, it's cheerio Blackburn Rovers. The financial situation will dominate your third season in the Championship and with increased cost-cutting necessary combined with a transfer embargo you could well drop into League One before any form of progress can be realised.[/p][/quote]What a load of tosh you talk! Never mind glass half empty yours is positively dry! I know your really Victor Meldrew LOL Forever Blue & White

8:09am Fri 14 Feb 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out
You mean getting us back to where we were before "that nice Mr Kean" took over. Remember the one who got us relegated from the Prem.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out[/p][/quote]You mean getting us back to where we were before "that nice Mr Kean" took over. Remember the one who got us relegated from the Prem. Harwoodstblue

9:03am Fri 14 Feb 14

look.up.blackburn says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out
You mean getting us back to where we were before "that nice Mr Kean" took over. Remember the one who got us relegated from the Prem.
He was also the one who had you sitting 3rd in the Championship looking good for a straight return to the Premier League. Had you not hounded that poor man out I sincerely believe he would have turned it around for you.

Instead you brought in the likes of Berg and Appleton who proceeded to destroy any chance you had of promotion, and the delay in your progress that those disgraceful appointments have caused now see's your squad decimated to comply with the FFP restrictions, and as such any chance of promotion is now long gone.

You got what you deserved.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out[/p][/quote]You mean getting us back to where we were before "that nice Mr Kean" took over. Remember the one who got us relegated from the Prem.[/p][/quote]He was also the one who had you sitting 3rd in the Championship looking good for a straight return to the Premier League. Had you not hounded that poor man out I sincerely believe he would have turned it around for you. Instead you brought in the likes of Berg and Appleton who proceeded to destroy any chance you had of promotion, and the delay in your progress that those disgraceful appointments have caused now see's your squad decimated to comply with the FFP restrictions, and as such any chance of promotion is now long gone. You got what you deserved. look.up.blackburn

9:04am Fri 14 Feb 14

bburnrover says...

Yes I agree maybe its this end of season we sell Rhodes on as just the one big name striker isn't working is it? We require a team of goal scorers not just the one so its time we changed tatics. I realise that GB has stabilised the ship and it is commendable but lets see him take a few more risks now or as eggs are eggs we will miss out on the 6th spot.
Yes I agree maybe its this end of season we sell Rhodes on as just the one big name striker isn't working is it? We require a team of goal scorers not just the one so its time we changed tatics. I realise that GB has stabilised the ship and it is commendable but lets see him take a few more risks now or as eggs are eggs we will miss out on the 6th spot. bburnrover

9:32am Fri 14 Feb 14

owd nick says...

bburnrover wrote:
Yes I agree maybe its this end of season we sell Rhodes on as just the one big name striker isn't working is it? We require a team of goal scorers not just the one so its time we changed tatics. I realise that GB has stabilised the ship and it is commendable but lets see him take a few more risks now or as eggs are eggs we will miss out on the 6th spot.
Rhodes will come good again, all strikers go through bad patches and Rovers have been consistent is saying it will take silly money to take him.

With FP coming in the number of clubs who could afford him will be significantly reduced, it's extremely unlikely a top PL club would want him.

To be honest though if the right offer did come in Rovers would be daft to not even consider it.

I agree with the change in tactics though, another week off because of the FA cup will allow players to recover from any knocks they are carrying and we will be able to give the new signings more time to get bedded in with the rest of the squad.

We are more or less safe now so lets go for it, there is nothing to loose.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Yes I agree maybe its this end of season we sell Rhodes on as just the one big name striker isn't working is it? We require a team of goal scorers not just the one so its time we changed tatics. I realise that GB has stabilised the ship and it is commendable but lets see him take a few more risks now or as eggs are eggs we will miss out on the 6th spot.[/p][/quote]Rhodes will come good again, all strikers go through bad patches and Rovers have been consistent is saying it will take silly money to take him. With FP coming in the number of clubs who could afford him will be significantly reduced, it's extremely unlikely a top PL club would want him. To be honest though if the right offer did come in Rovers would be daft to not even consider it. I agree with the change in tactics though, another week off because of the FA cup will allow players to recover from any knocks they are carrying and we will be able to give the new signings more time to get bedded in with the rest of the squad. We are more or less safe now so lets go for it, there is nothing to loose. owd nick

9:59am Fri 14 Feb 14

Harwoodstblue says...

owd nick wrote:
bburnrover wrote:
Yes I agree maybe its this end of season we sell Rhodes on as just the one big name striker isn't working is it? We require a team of goal scorers not just the one so its time we changed tatics. I realise that GB has stabilised the ship and it is commendable but lets see him take a few more risks now or as eggs are eggs we will miss out on the 6th spot.
Rhodes will come good again, all strikers go through bad patches and Rovers have been consistent is saying it will take silly money to take him.

With FP coming in the number of clubs who could afford him will be significantly reduced, it's extremely unlikely a top PL club would want him.

To be honest though if the right offer did come in Rovers would be daft to not even consider it.

I agree with the change in tactics though, another week off because of the FA cup will allow players to recover from any knocks they are carrying and we will be able to give the new signings more time to get bedded in with the rest of the squad.

We are more or less safe now so lets go for it, there is nothing to loose.
I agree, we might as well go all out for the sixth spot at this stage of the season. We'll win nothing unless we become more aggressive and adventurous.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Yes I agree maybe its this end of season we sell Rhodes on as just the one big name striker isn't working is it? We require a team of goal scorers not just the one so its time we changed tatics. I realise that GB has stabilised the ship and it is commendable but lets see him take a few more risks now or as eggs are eggs we will miss out on the 6th spot.[/p][/quote]Rhodes will come good again, all strikers go through bad patches and Rovers have been consistent is saying it will take silly money to take him. With FP coming in the number of clubs who could afford him will be significantly reduced, it's extremely unlikely a top PL club would want him. To be honest though if the right offer did come in Rovers would be daft to not even consider it. I agree with the change in tactics though, another week off because of the FA cup will allow players to recover from any knocks they are carrying and we will be able to give the new signings more time to get bedded in with the rest of the squad. We are more or less safe now so lets go for it, there is nothing to loose.[/p][/quote]I agree, we might as well go all out for the sixth spot at this stage of the season. We'll win nothing unless we become more aggressive and adventurous. Harwoodstblue

1:31pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Angry From Accrington says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out
You mean getting us back to where we were before "that nice Mr Kean" took over. Remember the one who got us relegated from the Prem.
That's rather unfair. Poor Keano volunteered to pick up the prices after years of inept financial management by the Walker Trust and the corrupt practices of the Allardicio regime. With the help of the Rao family, he brought some much needed dignity to this club, only to be hounded out when he was on the verge of restoring us to greatness.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Real progress would be getting us back to where we were before the bullying boo boys hounded that nice Mr Kean out[/p][/quote]You mean getting us back to where we were before "that nice Mr Kean" took over. Remember the one who got us relegated from the Prem.[/p][/quote]That's rather unfair. Poor Keano volunteered to pick up the prices after years of inept financial management by the Walker Trust and the corrupt practices of the Allardicio regime. With the help of the Rao family, he brought some much needed dignity to this club, only to be hounded out when he was on the verge of restoring us to greatness. Angry From Accrington

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