Tell us your favourite East Lancashire derby memories (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Dingles smashing up their own town centre. Priceless.

Best derby game: ALL OF THEM OVER THE PAST 30 years!!

Best derby goal: Dunns penalty whn Martin took a dive!

Best derby hero: One SIMON GARNER!

Best derby challenge: Douglas!

Best derby game - smashing 'em at Ewood 5-0 in the championship.
Best derby goal - so many too choose from.... Peds at Ewood.
Best derby hero - David Dunn for the below.
Best derby challenge - Kevin Ball demonstrating he's as thick as the fans by trying to kill Dunny coz he was too good for him.

Burnley v Rovers in FA Cup Quarter Final 1960 3 - 3. Classic game & we won the replay but unfortunately not the cup ... I was there! Great memories!

When we beat them in the 1960 cup replay after coming from 3-0 down to 3-3 at the turf and winning the replay 2-0 I was only 12 at the time and the gate at Ewood was 52,000 it was absolutely jammed packed but with no trouble at all,happy days.

Best derby game

5-0 in 2001 of course, you could never improve on that.

Best derby goal

Simon Garner's winner at Turf Moor in 1982. Hazy recollections but it was a Garner special, good control and hit on the turn. Pity there were no cameras there.

Best derby hero

Super Simon, always scored against them and even continued when he played for WBA and Wycombe. No wonder they hated him.

Best derby challenge

Has to be Ball's in 2000 on Dunn. Didn't hold back and nor did we when he had to walk up the tunnel in our end.

Best Derby Moment

Dubious penalty for yet another win at t'Turf in 2010. Nothing sweeter than winning a game like that with a dodgy penalty.

Best Derby Manager

I like Stan Turnip's comment about his side being like a clapped out banger compared to our Ferrari.

The 3-2 win at the Turf in the 1970s when we raced into a 3 goal lead. Because that particular match really, really mattered after we had been under the cosh for some time.

lol wont be any dingle comments............
.tey havnt had a best anything yet ha ha ha...............unl
es they are over 40 years old

Don't expect much input from dingles on this topic, most of them weren't born when there was something for them to celebrate in this fixture!

Best challenge- Russell on Dunny, got the animal a red cos he wasn't good enough to match the lad from Great Harwood!

Best manager- Souness, 7-0 aggregate win 00-01 season

Best goal- Peds in cup replay, right in front of their lot in Darwen End

Best hero- Dunny cooly slotting the penalty away past that big Danish oaf in front of their fans

Best game- 2-0 win Dec 2000, they'd waited 17 years for this, even sung "bring on the b@stards" as they got promoted the season before at Gillingham I think? We outplayed them , the padiham wifebeater Payton got hit with a pie as he headed for the tunnel at half time, Bent made it safe late on , in front of us in the cricketfield stand, and the banjo playing inbreds left early to wait for Rovers fans. Coppers had it all boxed off, dispatched them off, where they promptly made their way into their own town centre and smashed it up. Pure quality!

Best moment- Been so many , I loved Ryan Nelson threatening to punch that dingle after he faced up to Savage, but my personal favourite was sadly only witnessed by 50 other Rovers fans but approx 300 dingles. Dec 2000, 1st league game for 17 years, our coach pulled up at lights outside Prairie pub on Colne road, loads of coppers keeping the dingles back with horses , dogs etc and them giving it plenty. A mate of mine , cool as you like, unfolds this huge cardboard cutout covered in silver foil of the premiership trophy, holds it upto the window, pulls out a huge brandy glass (with brandy in!), swills it around, lights the biggest cigar you've ever seen, lights it, sips the brandy and shows the dingles what success is all about. It was a moment of pure genius , he told nobody he was going to do it and the dingles were absolutely speechless, even the coppers had a little chuckle at it. It demonstrated to me the gulf between the clubs and showed again Rovers class and superiority over their tin-pot neighbours

Sorry, the dingle thugs who tried to end Dunnys career was Kevin Ball not Russell. I tend to forget talentless wasters like him very quickly!

Best derby game: 5-0 at Ewood. There was no better sight than that scoreboard, and the misery of Burnley fans sat below it made it that bit better.

Best derby goal: Pedersen at Ewood to win the FA Cup replay. Could feel the almighty Blackburn End shaking.

Best derby hero: Dunny will be an eternal great after placing that wrongly-given penalty into the Dingledome net.

Best derby challenge: Russel on Dunny. As 'Fidel Castro' said, "Didn't hold back and nor did we when he had to walk up the tunnel in our end."

Best derby moment: The look on the Burnley fans' faces when we equalised only minutes after they went 1-0 up at Ewood in their pathetic attempt at the Prem in the 09-10 season.

Best derby manager: Every one of them that have given Bunley the tubbing they're all too used to.

Bazzer wrote:
The 3-2 win at the Turf in the 1970s when we raced into a 3 goal lead. Because that particular match really, really mattered after we had been under the cosh for some time.

agree, I was at that game in the longshite
can anyone remember Keith Fear playing (making is deut)?

1963 FA cup match when we where 1-3 down but drew level, and won the replay. Went to both matches. Good old days.

BEST DERBY GOAL 1

Charlie Austins 3rd next Sunday

BEST DERBY GOAL 2

Willie Irvine`s goal at Deadwood on Jan 1st 1966 . It virtually ensured Rovers Relegation.

BEST DERBY GOAL 3

Brian Douglas lobbing Fat Harry Leyland in the early 60`s. Pure Class

Iiii1111 wrote:

Bazzer wrote:
The 3-2 win at the Turf in the 1970s when we raced into a 3 goal lead. Because that particular match really, really mattered after we had been under the cosh for some time.

agree, I was at that game in the longshite
can anyone remember Keith Fear playing (making is deut)?

keith fear also missed a pen just before halftime great game

Glad when hype is over what Telegraph will do when they dont have a story to tell -its only 3 points at the end of the day

londonrover wrote:
Burnley v Rovers in FA Cup Quarter Final 1960 3 - 3. Classic game & we won the replay but unfortunately not the cup ... I was there! Great memories!

Im sure in those days both clubs had some grand players Jimmy Mac and Jimmy Adamson RIP for The Clarets And Brian Douglas and Ronnie Clayton RIP for the Blues for example grand memories

walshy2866 wrote:
Don't expect much input from dingles on this topic, most of them weren't born when there was something for them to celebrate in this fixture!

Best challenge- Russell on Dunny, got the animal a red cos he wasn't good enough to match the lad from Great Harwood!

Best manager- Souness, 7-0 aggregate win 00-01 season

Best goal- Peds in cup replay, right in front of their lot in Darwen End

Best hero- Dunny cooly slotting the penalty away past that big Danish oaf in front of their fans

Best game- 2-0 win Dec 2000, they'd waited 17 years for this, even sung "bring on the b@stards" as they got promoted the season before at Gillingham I think? We outplayed them , the padiham wifebeater Payton got hit with a pie as he headed for the tunnel at half time, Bent made it safe late on , in front of us in the cricketfield stand, and the banjo playing inbreds left early to wait for Rovers fans. Coppers had it all boxed off, dispatched them off, where they promptly made their way into their own town centre and smashed it up. Pure quality!

Best moment- Been so many , I loved Ryan Nelson threatening to punch that dingle after he faced up to Savage, but my personal favourite was sadly only witnessed by 50 other Rovers fans but approx 300 dingles. Dec 2000, 1st league game for 17 years, our coach pulled up at lights outside Prairie pub on Colne road, loads of coppers keeping the dingles back with horses , dogs etc and them giving it plenty. A mate of mine , cool as you like, unfolds this huge cardboard cutout covered in silver foil of the premiership trophy, holds it upto the window, pulls out a huge brandy glass (with brandy in!), swills it around, lights the biggest cigar you've ever seen, lights it, sips the brandy and shows the dingles what success is all about. It was a moment of pure genius , he told nobody he was going to do it and the dingles were absolutely speechless, even the coppers had a little chuckle at it. It demonstrated to me the gulf between the clubs and showed again Rovers class and superiority over their tin-pot neighbours

C0ck

George White Bread wrote:

walshy2866 wrote:
Don't expect much input from dingles on this topic, most of them weren't born when there was something for them to celebrate in this fixture!

Best challenge- Russell on Dunny, got the animal a red cos he wasn't good enough to match the lad from Great Harwood!

Best manager- Souness, 7-0 aggregate win 00-01 season

Best goal- Peds in cup replay, right in front of their lot in Darwen End

Best hero- Dunny cooly slotting the penalty away past that big Danish oaf in front of their fans

Best game- 2-0 win Dec 2000, they'd waited 17 years for this, even sung "bring on the b@stards" as they got promoted the season before at Gillingham I think? We outplayed them , the padiham wifebeater Payton got hit with a pie as he headed for the tunnel at half time, Bent made it safe late on , in front of us in the cricketfield stand, and the banjo playing inbreds left early to wait for Rovers fans. Coppers had it all boxed off, dispatched them off, where they promptly made their way into their own town centre and smashed it up. Pure quality!

Best moment- Been so many , I loved Ryan Nelson threatening to punch that dingle after he faced up to Savage, but my personal favourite was sadly only witnessed by 50 other Rovers fans but approx 300 dingles. Dec 2000, 1st league game for 17 years, our coach pulled up at lights outside Prairie pub on Colne road, loads of coppers keeping the dingles back with horses , dogs etc and them giving it plenty. A mate of mine , cool as you like, unfolds this huge cardboard cutout covered in silver foil of the premiership trophy, holds it upto the window, pulls out a huge brandy glass (with brandy in!), swills it around, lights the biggest cigar you've ever seen, lights it, sips the brandy and shows the dingles what success is all about. It was a moment of pure genius , he told nobody he was going to do it and the dingles were absolutely speechless, even the coppers had a little chuckle at it. It demonstrated to me the gulf between the clubs and showed again Rovers class and superiority over their tin-pot neighbours

C0ck

You suck your dad's what?

Silly little dingle x

Iiii1111 wrote:

Bazzer wrote:
The 3-2 win at the Turf in the 1970s when we raced into a 3 goal lead. Because that particular match really, really mattered after we had been under the cosh for some time.

agree, I was at that game in the longshite
can anyone remember Keith Fear playing (making is deut)?

he also missed a pen juat before ht great res

2-3 Boxing Day 1978 I think, 0-3 at half time but clung on to win 2-3. Think Crawford got a couple but not 100% sure, too may beers played havoc with my bladder and memory but had a fantastic journey home.

angryandy wrote:
2-3 Boxing Day 1978 I think, 0-3 at half time but clung on to win 2-3. Think Crawford got a couple but not 100% sure, too may beers played havoc with my bladder and memory but had a fantastic journey home.

it was keith fear on loan from bristol city

There's some crackers already listed above, but how about:

Ian Moore (I think) thinking he'd scored on April Fools day 2001 & celebrating like he'd just lifted the World Cup in front of the Blackburn End. He hadn't spotted the lino's flag & the look on his face as we all **** our sides at him was priceless.

Also from the same season, the furious Bonleh scruff who ran onto the pitch at Tarf Moo-er, irate that his team had bottled it, to be greeted with a rousing chorus of "who let the dingle out" from the partying Rovers fans.

He looked like he was going to cry!

Also in that game, Souness walking out before the Rovers team and staring down the assembled seething scruffs.

Priceless.

We had the 50's 60's and 70's

You had the 80's 90's and 00's

Now the power is slowly shifting back to us.

Get used to it.

B******* ROVERS (The former Lancashire based club)-

THE ONLY TOWN TEAM TO WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE.

THE ONLY ONE TO BE RELEGATED FROM IT.

TWICE!!!!!!

juanbbien wrote:
When we beat them in the 1960 cup replay after coming from 3-0 down to 3-3 at the turf and winning the replay 2-0 I was only 12 at the time and the gate at Ewood was 52,000 it was absolutely jammed packed but with no trouble at all,happy days.

I went to the 60 Cup replay at Ewood....I was just seven then and though I had been going for a couple of years with my Dad, this was the game that helped make me a Rover for life.

Never mind memories that's all we are going to have the way we are going.they score after two minutes it's bloody ridiculous where is the concentration this happens with to much regularity,

French Rover wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
When we beat them in the 1960 cup replay after coming from 3-0 down to 3-3 at the turf and winning the replay 2-0 I was only 12 at the time and the gate at Ewood was 52,000 it was absolutely jammed packed but with no trouble at all,happy days.

I went to the 60 Cup replay at Ewood....I was just seven then and though I had been going for a couple of years with my Dad, this was the game that helped make me a Rover for life.

I was there too at both Turf and Ewood . Fantastic memories, 50k plus gate at Ewood on the night for the replay !Happy happy days !

Chico! wrote:

George White Bread wrote:

walshy2866 wrote:
Don't expect much input from dingles on this topic, most of them weren't born when there was something for them to celebrate in this fixture!

Best challenge- Russell on Dunny, got the animal a red cos he wasn't good enough to match the lad from Great Harwood!

Best manager- Souness, 7-0 aggregate win 00-01 season

Best goal- Peds in cup replay, right in front of their lot in Darwen End

Best hero- Dunny cooly slotting the penalty away past that big Danish oaf in front of their fans

Best game- 2-0 win Dec 2000, they'd waited 17 years for this, even sung "bring on the b@stards" as they got promoted the season before at Gillingham I think? We outplayed them , the padiham wifebeater Payton got hit with a pie as he headed for the tunnel at half time, Bent made it safe late on , in front of us in the cricketfield stand, and the banjo playing inbreds left early to wait for Rovers fans. Coppers had it all boxed off, dispatched them off, where they promptly made their way into their own town centre and smashed it up. Pure quality!

Best moment- Been so many , I loved Ryan Nelson threatening to punch that dingle after he faced up to Savage, but my personal favourite was sadly only witnessed by 50 other Rovers fans but approx 300 dingles. Dec 2000, 1st league game for 17 years, our coach pulled up at lights outside Prairie pub on Colne road, loads of coppers keeping the dingles back with horses , dogs etc and them giving it plenty. A mate of mine , cool as you like, unfolds this huge cardboard cutout covered in silver foil of the premiership trophy, holds it upto the window, pulls out a huge brandy glass (with brandy in!), swills it around, lights the biggest cigar you've ever seen, lights it, sips the brandy and shows the dingles what success is all about. It was a moment of pure genius , he told nobody he was going to do it and the dingles were absolutely speechless, even the coppers had a little chuckle at it. It demonstrated to me the gulf between the clubs and showed again Rovers class and superiority over their tin-pot neighbours

C0ck

You suck your dad's what?

Silly little dingle x

Ah, ChicOCK good evening my bellended friend, how many peanuts did you pick out of the many t*rds you fished out of the silage tank with your bare hands? Still they'll be quite a snack in the ChicOCK mudhut.

Your comedy offerings are dwindling with each post, you've peaked and I use that term in a very generous way. Now run along little ChicOCK you're late for your night shift licking the floor at Burger King.

Bless x

George White Bread wrote:

Chico! wrote:

George White Bread wrote:

walshy2866 wrote:
Don't expect much input from dingles on this topic, most of them weren't born when there was something for them to celebrate in this fixture!

Best challenge- Russell on Dunny, got the animal a red cos he wasn't good enough to match the lad from Great Harwood!

Best manager- Souness, 7-0 aggregate win 00-01 season

Best goal- Peds in cup replay, right in front of their lot in Darwen End

Best hero- Dunny cooly slotting the penalty away past that big Danish oaf in front of their fans

Best game- 2-0 win Dec 2000, they'd waited 17 years for this, even sung "bring on the b@stards" as they got promoted the season before at Gillingham I think? We outplayed them , the padiham wifebeater Payton got hit with a pie as he headed for the tunnel at half time, Bent made it safe late on , in front of us in the cricketfield stand, and the banjo playing inbreds left early to wait for Rovers fans. Coppers had it all boxed off, dispatched them off, where they promptly made their way into their own town centre and smashed it up. Pure quality!

Best moment- Been so many , I loved Ryan Nelson threatening to punch that dingle after he faced up to Savage, but my personal favourite was sadly only witnessed by 50 other Rovers fans but approx 300 dingles. Dec 2000, 1st league game for 17 years, our coach pulled up at lights outside Prairie pub on Colne road, loads of coppers keeping the dingles back with horses , dogs etc and them giving it plenty. A mate of mine , cool as you like, unfolds this huge cardboard cutout covered in silver foil of the premiership trophy, holds it upto the window, pulls out a huge brandy glass (with brandy in!), swills it around, lights the biggest cigar you've ever seen, lights it, sips the brandy and shows the dingles what success is all about. It was a moment of pure genius , he told nobody he was going to do it and the dingles were absolutely speechless, even the coppers had a little chuckle at it. It demonstrated to me the gulf between the clubs and showed again Rovers class and superiority over their tin-pot neighbours

C0ck

You suck your dad's what?

Silly little dingle x

Ah, ChicOCK good evening my bellended friend, how many peanuts did you pick out of the many t*rds you fished out of the silage tank with your bare hands? Still they'll be quite a snack in the ChicOCK mudhut.

Your comedy offerings are dwindling with each post, you've peaked and I use that term in a very generous way. Now run along little ChicOCK you're late for your night shift licking the floor at Burger King.

Bless x

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


x

Chico! wrote:

George White Bread wrote:

Chico! wrote:

George White Bread wrote:

walshy2866 wrote:
Don't expect much input from dingles on this topic, most of them weren't born when there was something for them to celebrate in this fixture!

Best challenge- Russell on Dunny, got the animal a red cos he wasn't good enough to match the lad from Great Harwood!

Best manager- Souness, 7-0 aggregate win 00-01 season

Best goal- Peds in cup replay, right in front of their lot in Darwen End

Best hero- Dunny cooly slotting the penalty away past that big Danish oaf in front of their fans

Best game- 2-0 win Dec 2000, they'd waited 17 years for this, even sung "bring on the b@stards" as they got promoted the season before at Gillingham I think? We outplayed them , the padiham wifebeater Payton got hit with a pie as he headed for the tunnel at half time, Bent made it safe late on , in front of us in the cricketfield stand, and the banjo playing inbreds left early to wait for Rovers fans. Coppers had it all boxed off, dispatched them off, where they promptly made their way into their own town centre and smashed it up. Pure quality!

Best moment- Been so many , I loved Ryan Nelson threatening to punch that dingle after he faced up to Savage, but my personal favourite was sadly only witnessed by 50 other Rovers fans but approx 300 dingles. Dec 2000, 1st league game for 17 years, our coach pulled up at lights outside Prairie pub on Colne road, loads of coppers keeping the dingles back with horses , dogs etc and them giving it plenty. A mate of mine , cool as you like, unfolds this huge cardboard cutout covered in silver foil of the premiership trophy, holds it upto the window, pulls out a huge brandy glass (with brandy in!), swills it around, lights the biggest cigar you've ever seen, lights it, sips the brandy and shows the dingles what success is all about. It was a moment of pure genius , he told nobody he was going to do it and the dingles were absolutely speechless, even the coppers had a little chuckle at it. It demonstrated to me the gulf between the clubs and showed again Rovers class and superiority over their tin-pot neighbours

C0ck

You suck your dad's what?

Silly little dingle x

Ah, ChicOCK good evening my bellended friend, how many peanuts did you pick out of the many t*rds you fished out of the silage tank with your bare hands? Still they'll be quite a snack in the ChicOCK mudhut.

Your comedy offerings are dwindling with each post, you've peaked and I use that term in a very generous way. Now run along little ChicOCK you're late for your night shift licking the floor at Burger King.

Bless x

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


x

Is that the noise your mum makes when you're pounding away?

Z

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Best derby game Boxing Day 1977 Turf Moor , Keith Fear made his debut
half time Rovers 3-0 up. Fear missed early 2nd half penalty. Peter Noble inspired Burnley to come back to 3-2 Rovers hung on for famous victory.
Best challenge Any that a Rovers player won.
Best manager Jim Smith (always lucky agin Burnley)
Best goal - Any Rovers have coed against the dingles.
Best hero (s)- Simon Garner always upfor the fight in derby games and John Bond (RIP) The best Burnley manager ever
Best moment - To digress STAYING DOWN 4EVER AEROPLANE BANNER.

FCBurnley wrote:
BEST DERBY GOAL 1

Charlie Austins 3rd next Sunday

BEST DERBY GOAL 2

Willie Irvine`s goal at Deadwood on Jan 1st 1966 . It virtually ensured Rovers Relegation.

BEST DERBY GOAL 3

Brian Douglas lobbing Fat Harry Leyland in the early 60`s. Pure Class

1 hasn't happened yet, 2 and 3 were before I was born. And no other memories? Says it all about the success starved dingles. I openly admit we're a club in turmoil at moment and avoiding defeat Sunday will do me, but I still have RECENT memories of good times as a Rovers fan and don't have to flick through the history books like you lot.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
We had the 50's 60's and 70's

You had the 80's 90's and 00's

Now the power is slowly shifting back to us.

Get used to it.

B******* ROVERS (The former Lancashire based club)-

THE ONLY TOWN TEAM TO WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE.

THE ONLY ONE TO BE RELEGATED FROM IT.

TWICE!!!!!!

And in that post are exactly what points about derby memories? Is the question too difficult for you? Are you hard of understanding? No, I got it now, you're under 40 and can't read the history books , so you have no memories!

Chico! wrote:
There's some crackers already listed above, but how about:

Ian Moore (I think) thinking he'd scored on April Fools day 2001 & celebrating like he'd just lifted the World Cup in front of the Blackburn End. He hadn't spotted the lino's flag & the look on his face as we all **** our sides at him was priceless.

Also from the same season, the furious Bonleh scruff who ran onto the pitch at Tarf Moo-er, irate that his team had bottled it, to be greeted with a rousing chorus of "who let the dingle out" from the partying Rovers fans.

He looked like he was going to cry!

Also in that game, Souness walking out before the Rovers team and staring down the assembled seething scruffs.

Priceless.

Same Souness that planted a Galatasary flag in the centre circle at Fernebache's ground the day they won the title! A genuine hard man that wouldn't be scared of a few 6 fingered banjo strummers. Wish he was leading us out on Sunday, these overpaid premaddonas who's loyalty extends no further than the bank and the ferrari/porsche dealers, would be left in no doubt by him , as to what's required and expected in a game like this. Rhodes and Henley might grasp it if Dunnys been speaking to them. Hanley looks as thick as a p1ss-stone, Dann&Murphy plus all loan players won't give a fu@k as long as they get paid and Pederson is too nice a guy to bear any grudges. Givet won't understand it but will give 100% if he's picked, but as or the Spanish, Portuguese, Argies it'll mean nothing to them.

walshy2866 wrote:
Don't expect much input from dingles on this topic, most of them weren't born when there was something for them to celebrate in this fixture!

Best challenge- Russell on Dunny, got the animal a red cos he wasn't good enough to match the lad from Great Harwood!

Best manager- Souness, 7-0 aggregate win 00-01 season

Best goal- Peds in cup replay, right in front of their lot in Darwen End

Best hero- Dunny cooly slotting the penalty away past that big Danish oaf in front of their fans

Best game- 2-0 win Dec 2000, they'd waited 17 years for this, even sung "bring on the b@stards" as they got promoted the season before at Gillingham I think? We outplayed them , the padiham wifebeater Payton got hit with a pie as he headed for the tunnel at half time, Bent made it safe late on , in front of us in the cricketfield stand, and the banjo playing inbreds left early to wait for Rovers fans. Coppers had it all boxed off, dispatched them off, where they promptly made their way into their own town centre and smashed it up. Pure quality!

Best moment- Been so many , I loved Ryan Nelson threatening to punch that dingle after he faced up to Savage, but my personal favourite was sadly only witnessed by 50 other Rovers fans but approx 300 dingles. Dec 2000, 1st league game for 17 years, our coach pulled up at lights outside Prairie pub on Colne road, loads of coppers keeping the dingles back with horses , dogs etc and them giving it plenty. A mate of mine , cool as you like, unfolds this huge cardboard cutout covered in silver foil of the premiership trophy, holds it upto the window, pulls out a huge brandy glass (with brandy in!), swills it around, lights the biggest cigar you've ever seen, lights it, sips the brandy and shows the dingles what success is all about. It was a moment of pure genius , he told nobody he was going to do it and the dingles were absolutely speechless, even the coppers had a little chuckle at it. It demonstrated to me the gulf between the clubs and showed again Rovers class and superiority over their tin-pot neighbours

Straight out of the top draw Walshy.

As usual, the angry banjo playing string vest brigade can only post the usual poison and envy that has diseased that 3rd world club over the last 4 decades.

Bents goal at their sh1thole in 2000 was the one that sent all the apes into meltdown as Rovers fans erupted in rejoice......great times and memories.

Another of my favorites was the last Ewood derby when the fireworks went off at 3-1. Classic timing once again from the class outfit.