Jansen warns Blackburn Rovers: Don't fail like we did (From Lancashire Telegraph)

...steady Matt, you'll have Marghen and Morst after you!!!

You are spot on Matty, I had to sit through that season and this brings back some bad memories, I sadly don't think Sam has the motivational skills needed at this time, maybe his heart problems have mellowed him. Speaking of some good youngsters coming through, they coudn't be any worse than half of what is on show.

Matt Jansen will always be a hero at Rovers, but I am not sure why Mr Cryer is trying to make a story here. We lost against SToke, granted, but we took 7 points out of the previous 9. Is he trying to stir up some nervousness and aprehension amongst the crowd, or is it just the usual drivel we come to expect?

jeppo wrote:
...steady Matt, you'll have Marghen and Morst after you!!!

Lol Jeppo :)

Well history cannot repeat itself as I'm not absconding to Portugal as of 1999 when I watched my beloved Rovers relegated in a youth hostel in Lisbon !!

A big differance under Kidd is that the team didn't want to play for Kidd or the shirt?

For all the SA detractors, I am confident that Rovers won't suffer the same fate as 1999. It won't be pretty, that I admit to but, we will live to fight another day.

3 points is an absolute must tomorrow eve & I do not give a chuff(at this time) how we get them & I hope for happier days ahead ?

Bah humbug :(

Arte et labore

Boris The Spider wrote:
Matt Jansen will always be a hero at Rovers, but I am not sure why Mr Cryer is trying to make a story here. We lost against SToke, granted, but we took 7 points out of the previous 9. Is he trying to stir up some nervousness and aprehension amongst the crowd, or is it just the usual drivel we come to expect?

Maybe its the fact we have an extremely difficult run in, terrible away form and an underachieving squad who struggle to score, defend and even play the most basic football.
If we don't take maximum points from our next 2 games, we will go down I think.

Miller11 wrote:

Boris The Spider wrote: Matt Jansen will always be a hero at Rovers, but I am not sure why Mr Cryer is trying to make a story here. We lost against SToke, granted, but we took 7 points out of the previous 9. Is he trying to stir up some nervousness and aprehension amongst the crowd, or is it just the usual drivel we come to expect?

Maybe its the fact we have an extremely difficult run in, terrible away form and an underachieving squad who struggle to score, defend and even play the most basic football. If we don't take maximum points from our next 2 games, we will go down I think.

'Yikes' didn't look at it that way Miller11 !!

How's you pal ?

Sec word - 'Dark Turn' !!

We must take points off teams below us if we do that we'll be ok,I'm not a Sam hater but relegation has to be taken seriously,there aren't a lot of points to be had from our other fixtures.

Matty scored a corker on his debut and then Kidd dropped him to the bench or played him on the wing - that's why we went down along with long term injuries to Gally and Sutty. Matty, Gally and Sutty - oh dream on for that qaulity up front!
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This season we should be thankful there are some really bad teams around. Still does not justify the awful football though - there are better managers around for naxt season who can play football not hoofball.
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Well said Matt! I agree with Morst that there are some bad teams around this season, but unfortunately on some days we are one of them!

Luckily we also have some good days, and we certainly need for two of those good days over the next two matches v Hull and Bolton.

If we dont win both then that wont kill-us off, but it sure will make it harder for us to get the total points we need to stay-up.

Both games are real 6 pointers!

Allez les Bleus!

A win tomorrow will leave us needing 9 points from our remaining 12 games.

Cheers
BangkokRover

It is in our own hands - if we pick up points off the teams below us we can forget about relegation and start working on how to get ourselves safe sooner next season.

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If we don't get a decent return from the next two games alarm bells will once again be ringing.

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Both Hull and Bolton will come for a draw and hope to play the kind of frustrating football that will get the Rovers crowd on the backs of the home side.

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I expect Sam to play 4-4-2 with Roberts and Kalinic up front and with Dunny in midfield. I think that Sam has been saving Dunny for these two games.

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Let's wait and see.

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COME ON YOU BLUES!!

kevin e wrote:
It is in our own hands - if we pick up points off the teams below us we can forget about relegation and start working on how to get ourselves safe sooner next season. . If we don't get a decent return from the next two games alarm bells will once again be ringing. . Both Hull and Bolton will come for a draw and hope to play the kind of frustrating football that will get the Rovers crowd on the backs of the home side. . I expect Sam to play 4-4-2 with Roberts and Kalinic up front and with Dunny in midfield. I think that Sam has been saving Dunny for these two games. . Let's wait and see. . COME ON YOU BLUES!!

Kev, do you really expect two up front with Dunny in midfield? Not a chance. I hope you are right, but I think Dunn is still injured (for a change) and we have very little chance of 442. It will be more negative tactics, one up front with the inept Diouf behind him and hoping a hoof from Robbo or a Peds long throw drops for someone. Hope you're right and I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

how i'd love to see Jansen in his prime starting for us now... who can remember the squad we had when we got relelgated?
FETTIS/FLOWERS/FILAN

KENNA/DAVIDSON/PEACO
CK/DAILLY/BROOMES/TA
YLOR
MARCOLIN/GILLESPIE/D
UNN/FLITCROFT/MCKINL
AY/WILCOX/DUFF/MCATE
ER
BLAKE/WARD/JANSEN/DA
VIES/GALLAGHER/SUTTO
N

a few class players in there but a lot of deadwood...

blueandwhitey79 wrote:
how i'd love to see Jansen in his prime starting for us now... who can remember the squad we had when we got relelgated? FETTIS/FLOWERS/FILAN KENNA/DAVIDSON/PEACO CK/DAILLY/BROOMES/TA YLOR MARCOLIN/GILLESPIE/D UNN/FLITCROFT/MCKINL AY/WILCOX/DUFF/MCATE ER BLAKE/WARD/JANSEN/DA VIES/GALLAGHER/SUTTO N a few class players in there but a lot of deadwood...

Id take most of that team now. Especially the midfield. Id want out of that team...

Filan (Dont think flowers was with us?)
Kenna
Gillespie
Flitcroft
Mckinlay
Wilcox, Duff and Mcateer
Jansen, Gally and Sutton.

kevin e wrote:
It is in our own hands - if we pick up points off the teams below us we can forget about relegation and start working on how to get ourselves safe sooner next season.

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If we don't get a decent return from the next two games alarm bells will once again be ringing.

.

Both Hull and Bolton will come for a draw and hope to play the kind of frustrating football that will get the Rovers crowd on the backs of the home side.

.

I expect Sam to play 4-4-2 with Roberts and Kalinic up front and with Dunny in midfield. I think that Sam has been saving Dunny for these two games.

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Let's wait and see.

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COME ON YOU BLUES!!

So much for that idea!

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Dunny is still injured!

Billypieman wrote:

kevin e wrote:
It is in our own hands - if we pick up points off the teams below us we can forget about relegation and start working on how to get ourselves safe sooner next season. . If we don't get a decent return from the next two games alarm bells will once again be ringing. . Both Hull and Bolton will come for a draw and hope to play the kind of frustrating football that will get the Rovers crowd on the backs of the home side. . I expect Sam to play 4-4-2 with Roberts and Kalinic up front and with Dunny in midfield. I think that Sam has been saving Dunny for these two games. . Let's wait and see. . COME ON YOU BLUES!!

Kev, do you really expect two up front with Dunny in midfield? Not a chance. I hope you are right, but I think Dunn is still injured (for a change) and we have very little chance of 442. It will be more negative tactics, one up front with the inept Diouf behind him and hoping a hoof from Robbo or a Peds long throw drops for someone. Hope you're right and I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

I do think we will start with Niko and Roberts up front.

Forgive me, for I am about to do a Marghen.
.2008/09
Last season Sam was in charge for 21 games and collected 28 points
an average of 1.33 points per game.
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.2009/10
This season 25 games (to date) and 28 points.
an average of 1.12 per game.
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Progress?
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Even if we win our next two winnable games we don't reach last season points to games ratio, and then we play liverpool.
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If we had continued 2009 performance at 1.33 points per game - we would currently be on 33 points after 25 games and pretty much safe and in 9th postion. Just a thought.

HASSLEM OR MARGHEN?
"FIGHT"

Can't believe Andy Cryer has done a piece on the fear of relegation and some of you actually bite - obviously this is his agenda.
In the real world we are 3 games ahead of being sucked into trouble (with 13/14 to go) with some really dire teams behind us - I don't expect Portsmouth to miraculously win 5 more games than us (to just get their heads in front of us as we stand now), I don't expect Bolton, West Ham, Burnley, Wolves, Wigan or Hull to outperform us between now and the end of the season either.
Luckily we have some big teams to play when the pressure is really on them to stay in touch with the championship/4th place race and that is when they tend to come unstuck.
Granted we have been woeful away and as someone stated we've been making some real basic errors - but I think there have only been 2 teams to beat us at Ewood in 12 months, which is excellent by anyone's standards.
I think 36/37 points will be more than enough this year so 2 wins and a few draws would see us scrape through anyway. My target is to try to get 9th/10th which is achieveable and will give us a good base to improve on next season (if we stop simply laying down to die away from home and be tougher in midfield we would improve big time).

Woody Riversider wrote:

jeppo wrote: ...steady Matt, you'll have Marghen and Morst after you!!!

Lol Jeppo :) Well history cannot repeat itself as I'm not absconding to Portugal as of 1999 when I watched my beloved Rovers relegated in a youth hostel in Lisbon !! A big differance under Kidd is that the team didn't want to play for Kidd or the shirt? For all the SA detractors, I am confident that Rovers won't suffer the same fate as 1999. It won't be pretty, that I admit to but, we will live to fight another day. 3 points is an absolute must tomorrow eve & I do not give a chuff(at this time) how we get them & I hope for happier days ahead ? Bah humbug :( Arte et labore

May 1999.. remember that well- I watched us get relegated in the Holiday Inn (homeless at the time)in Taunton with a bunch of Aussie -these guys new more about football than Jeppo! Did I ever tell you thier names… Steve & Mark Waugh, Shane Warne, Glenn McGarth….See you didn’t know that uncle Marhgen mixed in such circles(well for two weeks!). Jeppo, the advise I gave them made them into world champions a few months later! Imagine what I could do for the Ally dice… hmmm

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Forgive me, for I am about to do a Marghen. .2008/09 Last season Sam was in charge for 21 games and collected 28 points an average of 1.33 points per game. . .2009/10 This season 25 games (to date) and 28 points. an average of 1.12 per game. . Progress? . Even if we win our next two winnable games we don't reach last season points to games ratio, and then we play liverpool. . If we had continued 2009 performance at 1.33 points per game - we would currently be on 33 points after 25 games and pretty much safe and in 9th postion. Just a thought.

Am I really that boring-don’t all answer at once!
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What size are you HH? got a spare anorak in the wardrobe!

blueandwhitey79 wrote:
how i'd love to see Jansen in his prime starting for us now... who can remember the squad we had when we got relelgated?
FETTIS/FLOWERS/FILAN


KENNA/DAVIDSON/PEACO

CK/DAILLY/BROOMES/TA

YLOR
MARCOLIN/GILLESPIE/D

UNN/FLITCROFT/MCKINL

AY/WILCOX/DUFF/MCATE

ER
BLAKE/WARD/JANSEN/DA

VIES/GALLAGHER/SUTTO

N

a few class players in there but a lot of deadwood...

Didn't Henchoz play center half most of that season? Colin Hendry left to join Rangers at the start and Sutty and Gally were injured or no way would we have gone down.
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Tim Flowers on "Time of our Lives" said Kidd did not fancy him and wanted the old guard out so he had to leave. Didn't we sell Sherwood around that time as well - crazy decisions when you look back!
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Broomes lol - he was bad -you will be getting HAC fired up - HAC'T OFF!
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Can someone just confirm that on the sky programme “Time of our Lives” they all said Mark Atkins was the best finisher at the club which included the SAS--Fed up of Jeppo taking the pi ss.

marghen wrote:
Can someone just confirm that on the sky programme “Time of our Lives” they all said Mark Atkins was the best finisher at the club which included the SAS--Fed up of Jeppo taking the pi ss.

Confirmed!

marghen wrote:
Can someone just confirm that on the sky programme “Time of our Lives” they all said Mark Atkins was the best finisher at the club which included the SAS--Fed up of Jeppo taking the pi ss.

Aye confirmed

marghen wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Forgive me, for I am about to do a Marghen. .2008/09 Last season Sam was in charge for 21 games and collected 28 points an average of 1.33 points per game. . .2009/10 This season 25 games (to date) and 28 points. an average of 1.12 per game. . Progress? . Even if we win our next two winnable games we don't reach last season points to games ratio, and then we play liverpool. . If we had continued 2009 performance at 1.33 points per game - we would currently be on 33 points after 25 games and pretty much safe and in 9th postion. Just a thought.

Am I really that boring-don’t all answer at once! . What size are you HH? got a spare anorak in the wardrobe!

Size XFB please

MidlandRover85 wrote:

blueandwhitey79 wrote: how i'd love to see Jansen in his prime starting for us now... who can remember the squad we had when we got relelgated? FETTIS/FLOWERS/FILAN KENNA/DAVIDSON/PEACO CK/DAILLY/BROOMES/TA YLOR MARCOLIN/GILLESPIE/D UNN/FLITCROFT/MCKINL AY/WILCOX/DUFF/MCATE ER BLAKE/WARD/JANSEN/DA VIES/GALLAGHER/SUTTO N a few class players in there but a lot of deadwood...

Id take most of that team now. Especially the midfield. Id want out of that team... Filan (Dont think flowers was with us?) Kenna Gillespie Flitcroft Mckinlay Wilcox, Duff and Mcateer Jansen, Gally and Sutton.

i forgot the young damien duff too, yea midfield did seem to have more bite, sherwood left us part way through the season for spurs i remember too.

Morst wrote:

blueandwhitey79 wrote: how i'd love to see Jansen in his prime starting for us now... who can remember the squad we had when we got relelgated? FETTIS/FLOWERS/FILAN KENNA/DAVIDSON/PEACO CK/DAILLY/BROOMES/TA YLOR MARCOLIN/GILLESPIE/D UNN/FLITCROFT/MCKINL AY/WILCOX/DUFF/MCATE ER BLAKE/WARD/JANSEN/DA VIES/GALLAGHER/SUTTO N a few class players in there but a lot of deadwood...

Didn't Henchoz play center half most of that season? Colin Hendry left to join Rangers at the start and Sutty and Gally were injured or no way would we have gone down. . Tim Flowers on "Time of our Lives" said Kidd did not fancy him and wanted the old guard out so he had to leave. Didn't we sell Sherwood around that time as well - crazy decisions when you look back! . Broomes lol - he was bad -you will be getting HAC fired up - HAC'T OFF! . 31st.....

forgot henchoz, knew i'd forget somebody... haha i'll have a go at naming the 87 full members cup winning side haha really take us back.. I think it was
O'keefe
Price
Sulley
Keeley
Hendry
Mail
Barker
Ainscow
Miller
Patterson
Garner

I remembered 10 of them had to wikipedia to find the missing one...Alan Ainscow, them were the days haha

marghen wrote:

Woody Riversider wrote:

jeppo wrote: ...steady Matt, you'll have Marghen and Morst after you!!!

Lol Jeppo :) Well history cannot repeat itself as I'm not absconding to Portugal as of 1999 when I watched my beloved Rovers relegated in a youth hostel in Lisbon !! A big differance under Kidd is that the team didn't want to play for Kidd or the shirt? For all the SA detractors, I am confident that Rovers won't suffer the same fate as 1999. It won't be pretty, that I admit to but, we will live to fight another day. 3 points is an absolute must tomorrow eve & I do not give a chuff(at this time) how we get them & I hope for happier days ahead ? Bah humbug :( Arte et labore

May 1999.. remember that well- I watched us get relegated in the Holiday Inn (homeless at the time)in Taunton with a bunch of Aussie -these guys new more about football than Jeppo! Did I ever tell you thier names… Steve & Mark Waugh, Shane Warne, Glenn McGarth….See you didn’t know that uncle Marhgen mixed in such circles(well for two weeks!). Jeppo, the advise I gave them made them into world champions a few months later! Imagine what I could do for the Ally dice… hmmm

Quality Mr Marghen :)

Can't help with the anorak though !!

Arte et labore

blueandwhitey79 wrote:

Morst wrote:

blueandwhitey79 wrote: how i'd love to see Jansen in his prime starting for us now... who can remember the squad we had when we got relelgated? FETTIS/FLOWERS/FILAN KENNA/DAVIDSON/PEACO CK/DAILLY/BROOMES/TA YLOR MARCOLIN/GILLESPIE/D UNN/FLITCROFT/MCKINL AY/WILCOX/DUFF/MCATE ER BLAKE/WARD/JANSEN/DA VIES/GALLAGHER/SUTTO N a few class players in there but a lot of deadwood...

Didn't Henchoz play center half most of that season? Colin Hendry left to join Rangers at the start and Sutty and Gally were injured or no way would we have gone down. . Tim Flowers on "Time of our Lives" said Kidd did not fancy him and wanted the old guard out so he had to leave. Didn't we sell Sherwood around that time as well - crazy decisions when you look back! . Broomes lol - he was bad -you will be getting HAC fired up - HAC'T OFF! . 31st.....

forgot henchoz, knew i'd forget somebody... haha i'll have a go at naming the 87 full members cup winning side haha really take us back.. I think it was
O'keefe
Price
Sulley
Keeley
Hendry
Mail
Barker
Ainscow
Miller
Patterson
Garner

I remembered 10 of them had to wikipedia to find the missing one...Alan Ainscow, them were the days haha

Good shout! - Scott Sellers played didn't he though or am I thinking of the play-off final? Big Col played Center Forward and of course scored the winner - still got the Video must be priceless now!
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Meanwhile loved "Woys" quote last night - we have had two tough games where we rode our luck to pick up points but tonight was well - (taking the p*ss is what he really meant!) very comfortable!
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What is the lowest away points total in the Prem ever? Could he University of football break that record this season?
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Morst wrote:

blueandwhitey79 wrote:

Morst wrote:

blueandwhitey79 wrote: how i'd love to see Jansen in his prime starting for us now... who can remember the squad we had when we got relelgated? FETTIS/FLOWERS/FILAN KENNA/DAVIDSON/PEACO CK/DAILLY/BROOMES/TA YLOR MARCOLIN/GILLESPIE/D UNN/FLITCROFT/MCKINL AY/WILCOX/DUFF/MCATE ER BLAKE/WARD/JANSEN/DA VIES/GALLAGHER/SUTTO N a few class players in there but a lot of deadwood...

Didn't Henchoz play center half most of that season? Colin Hendry left to join Rangers at the start and Sutty and Gally were injured or no way would we have gone down. . Tim Flowers on "Time of our Lives" said Kidd did not fancy him and wanted the old guard out so he had to leave. Didn't we sell Sherwood around that time as well - crazy decisions when you look back! . Broomes lol - he was bad -you will be getting HAC fired up - HAC'T OFF! . 31st.....

forgot henchoz, knew i'd forget somebody... haha i'll have a go at naming the 87 full members cup winning side haha really take us back.. I think it was O'keefe Price Sulley Keeley Hendry Mail Barker Ainscow Miller Patterson Garner I remembered 10 of them had to wikipedia to find the missing one...Alan Ainscow, them were the days haha

Good shout! - Scott Sellers played didn't he though or am I thinking of the play-off final? Big Col played Center Forward and of course scored the winner - still got the Video must be priceless now! . Meanwhile loved "Woys" quote last night - we have had two tough games where we rode our luck to pick up points but tonight was well - (taking the p*ss is what he really meant!) very comfortable! . What is the lowest away points total in the Prem ever? Could he University of football break that record this season? . 31st..........

Yea mate sellars came on as sub. was only 7 at the time can still see the winning goal cracked into the top corner...

Hey Marghen...hey, I played club cricket with their younger brother Danny Waugh in the late 90's - just goes to show you, the advise I gave to Danny did b***er all for him, you've definately got the midas touch!!

We’ve been saying for months now that we have a very difficult run of home games coming up at the business end of the season. Given our away record it looks unlikely that we will pick up any 3 pointers on the road so can only hope for a point here or there. Therefore the next two home games are MASSIVE in the context of Rovers season and will surely set the tone for the remainder of the season. Ideally we need 6 points from these two games but 4 is an absolute must. It’s difficult to estimate what a safe total will be this season as almost all the teams in the bottom half could come into it and are all beating each other but 40 should be enough.

The big disappointment for me and I guess all of you is that a team like Hull City who we play tonight can turn in some gritty but disciplined performances against two of the so called super teams on our league and earn a draw against Chelsea and beat Man City. Both those teams hammered us, so Rovers are going to have to be at their very best to win this one to night. In my view we need to have at least 34 points on the board by the time we go to Burnley in mid March and get something from that game.

Forgive me for being pessimistic but apart from the Birmingham City game the run of home games we have after the Burnley game is scary and we’ll struggle to pick any points up after that. Possibly Everton. With Aston Villa away our last game of the season we don’t want to be going there needing to get a result so two home wins now will get us to 34 points. Hopefully we will scrape up another 6 points out of our remaining home games against Birmingham and Everton and/or a couple of points on the road. It still looks to me like it’s going all the way to the wire and we’re going be in it, but hopefully looking down over our shoulder rather than relying on other teams.

Morst 31st ………Talking about lowest points tallies away from home. Our beloved Rovers could go into that record book yet this season. We’ve only got 5 so it would only take a Burnley fluke somewhere and they would be almost level with us. Not sure about the stats but 5pts must be down there and is currently one of Rovers lowest away totals.

BluesBros wrote:
Morst 31st ………Talking about lowest points tallies away from home. Our beloved Rovers could go into that record book yet this season. We’ve only got 5 so it would only take a Burnley fluke somewhere and they would be almost level with us. Not sure about the stats but 5pts must be down there and is currently one of Rovers lowest away totals.

Yeah but it will be at least 8 after visit t'turf!
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