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Blackburn Rovers & Premier League Table & Results
Rovers looking for a fourth Iberian
7:53am Tuesday 17th July 2012 in Blackburn Rovers & Premier League Table & Results
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
BLACKBURN Rovers are on the trail of their fourth Portuguese player of the summer – with Porto midfielder Paulo Jorge having started a trial yesterday.
The 18-year-old, who played for Porto under 19s last season, has come through the youth ranks at his club and the Portuguese national team and will be given a chance to shine by Blackburn over the coming days.
Jorge, whose full name is Paulo Jorge Gomes Pereira, is expected to feature in a behind closed doors friendly against Macclesfield tomorrow, where the majority of Steve Kean’s current squad will be given a run out.
Jorge is understood to prefer playing in deep central midfield role and has been described by Portuguese sources as a tough-tackling midfielder.
Rovers have already signed two Portuguese players this summer in striker Nuno Gomes from Braga and winger Fabio Nunes from Portimonese, while they continue to chase Sporting Lisbon midfielder Adrien Silva.
Silva, 23, is under contract at Sporting and is continuing negotiations with them this week, with Rovers hopeful he will tell his employers he wants a switch to Ewood Park.
Rovers would only have to pay minimal compensation for Jorge, should he impress at Brockhall this week, as they continue their attempts to build a youthful squad, with some experience among it.
Jorge is relatively unknown away from his home club but has international pedigree at youth level, having most recently played for Portugal under 19s.
Jorge will be joined on trial by Malaysian defender Titus James Palani later this week as he looks to become the first from his country to make it in English football.
Rovers pre-season preparations will continue back in England after returning from an intense summer camp in Austria over the weekend.
Rovers fans will get their first glimpse of the club’s new signings at Saturday’s friendly double header against Fleetwood and Accrington Stanley at the Crown Ground on Saturday.
Danny Murphy, Leon Best, Nunes and Gomes should all feature, as should trialists Jorge and Palani.
Rovers remain on the look-out for a versatile defender to add to their squad before the start of the new season, while they will look elsewhere for a central midfielder if their attempts to land Silva prove unsuccessful.
Comments(185)
A Darener
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8:04am Tue 17 Jul 12
RobbyRover
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8:07am Tue 17 Jul 12
Alledgedly, of course. Views are my own and not that of the Lancashire Telegraph.
hasslem hasslem
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8:18am Tue 17 Jul 12
dangerous dave
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8:20am Tue 17 Jul 12
OUT WITH KEAN VENKYS SINGH AGNEW
Keith Myath
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8:21am Tue 17 Jul 12
Gaz M
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8:27am Tue 17 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner
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8:37am Tue 17 Jul 12
hasslem hasslem
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8:40am Tue 17 Jul 12
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colin hendry will end up playing for rovers, not coaching.
GAZHAY
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8:58am Tue 17 Jul 12
Give that man some fairy juice!
Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!
Forever-Blue
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8:58am Tue 17 Jul 12
I bet they do. £££££££££s for the agent and a nice villa on the Algarve for the gangster.
It stinks. Can anybody down at fraud-wood do anything thats legitimate. I doubt it . Cant wait for the day that they are ALL exposed for what they really are. Disgusting parasites.
Ianwhittam
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9:05am Tue 17 Jul 12
On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that.
Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!
jinkyjase
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9:09am Tue 17 Jul 12
A. keep as many of the current squad as possible
B. Sign one or two more experienced players
C. Sack Kean
thresholdweller
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9:12am Tue 17 Jul 12
blueblooded
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9:14am Tue 17 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Well there is one titbit that is good news to be positive about lp.
Hmmmm positive spin, come on I can do it, Hmmmm I suppose if one of the four ends up being a gud un we can sell him next year, sorry it's do hard being positive.
Because the core business needs so much attention due to the financial downturn, it's rumoured that Anuradha Desai is planning to step down from the board of Rovers. Since she appears to be the last saviour of baldy it doesn't bode well for him if results dont go our way this season..
Got to be a happy thought!
Nurseman
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9:21am Tue 17 Jul 12
Rovers 1495
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9:26am Tue 17 Jul 12
thresholdweller wrote:Andy Carroll ... Shebby's rushing up to the Toon to foil Pardew's bid ... because Shebby realises what a great defender he would make.
I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?
Bigbry
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9:28am Tue 17 Jul 12
unclejacklegend
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9:31am Tue 17 Jul 12
penemo
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9:34am Tue 17 Jul 12
Cheer the team on by all means but lets continue to let the new management structure know what we think of this loser who has upset thousands of genuine rovers fans.KEAN OUT.
bring back the good old days
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9:37am Tue 17 Jul 12
.............!!!
vicn1956
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9:38am Tue 17 Jul 12
Oh sorry you,kean and venkys have been FANTASTIC!
edmy
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9:40am Tue 17 Jul 12
1rover
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9:43am Tue 17 Jul 12
Ianwhittam wrote:YOUR RIGHT KEAN OUT AGNEW OUT HENDRY OUT .
Dear Andy Cryer
On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that.
Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!
bburnrover
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9:52am Tue 17 Jul 12
French Rover
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9:57am Tue 17 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:don't give up being positive now LP you are doing fine sir...every snippet of positivity helps the current situation a little.
Hmmmm positive spin, come on I can do it, Hmmmm I suppose if one of the four ends up being a gud un we can sell him next year, sorry it's do hard being positive.
Could be some really good news if Blueblood is right about Mrs Desai stepping down from the Rovers board. A certain Mr Kean would be very exposed then without his Indian security blanket.
We would have to hope the Brothers Rao could make the right decisions on a new manager and how the club should be run.
Into the unknown again maybe but it has got to be better than now.
Wait a minute isn't that what the Pompey fans said two seasons ago....
lowelife
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10:07am Tue 17 Jul 12
Ianwhittam wrote:There's an opportunity to protest at the Crown Ground on Saturday.
Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!
fitz808
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10:22am Tue 17 Jul 12
GAZHAY wrote:i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water?
Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!
clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence.
as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment.
so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees!
this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
buzzinfly
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10:25am Tue 17 Jul 12
Ive got a fun game for you Steve, whilst you being driven around, look at the back of the cars and read the names. If you see a Landrover, it may have the word DEFENDER written on it. Write that word down and when your back at the club ask someone , the cleaner maybe,(if there still is one employed after you relegated the club) what a defender is in footballing terms!!!!!!
We may need one or two.
Just a thought.
Adeus.
A Darener
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10:47am Tue 17 Jul 12
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
rovers82
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10:50am Tue 17 Jul 12
IrishRover3
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10:53am Tue 17 Jul 12
fitz808 wrote:Like the Mayalsian.....! do you honestly believe that those idiots would recognise talent during a trial?
GAZHAY wrote:i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water?
Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!
clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence.
as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment.
so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees!
this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
Dan11
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10:59am Tue 17 Jul 12
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Keans bank balance has never felt better.
fitz808
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11:03am Tue 17 Jul 12
IrishRover3 wrote:to be fair, they know a lot more about football than i ever will , so i would feel uneasy about being overly critical about such matters.
fitz808 wrote:Like the Mayalsian.....! do you honestly believe that those idiots would recognise talent during a trial?GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
we all know that kean and venkys have been beyond poor so far, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are better placed to be making recruitment decisions than i am.
as for the malaysian guy - there is absolutley no reason whatsoever that a player from malaysia wouldn't be a decent player. this guy may not turn out to be good enough, but absolutley no problem in having a look.
we're not (and rarely have been) in a position to pick and chose from a perfect selection of choices, so let's just crack on where we can and prepare as best we can for teh coming season where kean will start off as manager and venkys will still be the owners. beyond that, let's hope we win some games and undergo a startling transformation in fortunes. if not, let's hope we can at least start with a change in the management.
benal13
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11:04am Tue 17 Jul 12
fitz808 wrote:hello FITZ808 may i just remind you of one of your early posts :long may we revel in our INSANE and inane opinions:!
GAZHAY wrote:i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water?
Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!
clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence.
as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment.
so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees!
this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
RUinsane
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11:06am Tue 17 Jul 12
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
MxMave
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11:13am Tue 17 Jul 12
RobbyRover wrote:How.... dare... you... slandering someone on the internet... the shame, THE SHAME!
I'm guessing a certain agency's Portugese division will be doing very well, and I'm sure a certain someone now has a lovely house on the Algarve...
Alledgedly, of course. Views are my own and not that of the Lancashire Telegraph.
MxMave
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11:15am Tue 17 Jul 12
All these portugese players are creating a barrier around him.
earwego
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11:29am Tue 17 Jul 12
fitz808
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11:29am Tue 17 Jul 12
benal13 wrote:you may indeed... erm which one! :)
fitz808 wrote:hello FITZ808 may i just remind you of one of your early posts :long may we revel in our INSANE and inane opinions:!GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
Dan11
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11:33am Tue 17 Jul 12
buzzinfly wrote:I laughed- too close to the truth though.
Whilst in Portugal earlier in the season Messrs. Kean may have been lured by the offer of a free case of wine to attend a Kentaro Time Share seminar. After getting p##sed during the seminar they must have signed up ,only to discover that hidden in the terms was the clause of having to sign Kentaro agents Portuguse players.! Doh!! that pesky small print. Ive got a fun game for you Steve, whilst you being driven around, look at the back of the cars and read the names. If you see a Landrover, it may have the word DEFENDER written on it. Write that word down and when your back at the club ask someone , the cleaner maybe,(if there still is one employed after you relegated the club) what a defender is in footballing terms!!!!!! We may need one or two. Just a thought. Adeus.
How many midfielders does a team so inept in defence and crying out for defenders actually need? Or does Kean plan on birthing Miles Anderson and Bruno Ribiero in the championship. League One here we come.
The-Jerome-and-Steve-Show
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11:35am Tue 17 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:Truth is the majority will be booing kean throughout every game.
A Darener wrote: Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it.. The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about. Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before. Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not. I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
The voices of Kean Out will be heard louder than ever in a near empty stadium.
If you are not buying tickets, still travel to ewood on matchday and await the coaches arriving and give kean hell.
Travel to away games banners galore no gestapo to stop us away from Ewood.
They will find out that we haven't forgiven and will never forget.
I will be there from the first friendly, Kean Out, before every home game Kean Out, during every away game Kean Out.
blueblooded
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11:37am Tue 17 Jul 12
"If you billed it, they will con"
IT being the agents, creaming off the top.
Road Runner Road Runner
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11:38am Tue 17 Jul 12
Ianwhittam wrote:Well said Ian...........
Dear Andy Cryer
On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that.
Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!
Arte et labore
French Rover
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11:42am Tue 17 Jul 12
I watched him at Swindon around 5 years ago and he was a revelation there. He scored a lot of goals for them over a couple of seasons before they sold him on. Not sure what happened at West Brom but he hasn't played many games there at all.
Could be a good partner for Best?
Whether or not Best and Cox can hit it off remains to be seen, but Best-Cox certainly sounds like a penetrative partnership, with Cox likely to operate in the hole behind the former Magpies front man. front. :)
benal13
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11:54am Tue 17 Jul 12
fitz808 wrote:come on FITZ808,THE ONE ABOVE long may we ect ect ect!!!!!
benal13 wrote:you may indeed... erm which one! :)
fitz808 wrote:hello FITZ808 may i just remind you of one of your early posts :long may we revel in our INSANE and inane opinions:!GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
MatthewCA
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11:55am Tue 17 Jul 12
DanBlackburn
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12:03pm Tue 17 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:RU - do you really get what is going on? Your blind support for the cancerous regime currently festering in at ewood is nothing short of cowardice. Just like you i am a life longer and season ticket holder. I also probably travel further than you - 4 hours round trip.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Not renewing and only attending away fixtures is the brave thing to do. it upsets me when i think about it. Rovers are such a big part of me that not going to Ewood leaves me feeling bereft.
But this is the last thing I have. No-one is listening to our protests.
I have one question for you, that you must answer: when does it get bad enough for you to withdraw? If Fester takes us down to Division 1? Will you still be renewing when he is confirmed manager? What would it take? Some of us have reached our stomach churning limit already. I cannot stand the mere sight of his odious grinning smug face. He is laughing at YOU. UR Insane.
RobbyRover
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12:03pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Come on Stevie, time to replace the cork and move on to water I think
Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:03pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:lol u a Burnlee fan,,the guys a baffoon,youve fallen for his bull
Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.
Lancs - pensioner
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12:09pm Tue 17 Jul 12
The-Jerome-and-SteveHi RUinsane,You have got some "Balls" coming on here with your opinion and although I may disagree you are welcome to give it, I will be following Jeromes way though, dont get mad if we differ in our views we all want the same and that is our club back, take heart everyone we will get there in the end.
-Show wrote:
RUinsane wrote:Truth is the majority will be booing kean throughout every game. The voices of Kean Out will be heard louder than ever in a near empty stadium. If you are not buying tickets, still travel to ewood on matchday and await the coaches arriving and give kean hell. Travel to away games banners galore no gestapo to stop us away from Ewood. They will find out that we haven't forgiven and will never forget. I will be there from the first friendly, Kean Out, before every home game Kean Out, during every away game Kean Out.A Darener wrote: Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it.. The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about. Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before. Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not. I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Darener you sound a bit down today, come on give some positivity, you can sing "Kean out" to your hearts content at Accy on Saturday.
Frenchy I am trying my best here?
A Darener
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12:12pm Tue 17 Jul 12
ello he's back, now where has Kean been for the last few weeks? Oh I know, busy overseas, too busy to read these pages, now he is back with his drunken gibberish!
RUinsane
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12:15pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Yeah, i took some time coming to my decision, I didn't take it lightly, but I mulled it over for ages. But as I say, I've seen the thin before, and I'm ready to shout and scream the boys some support. I don't care who owns it, I couldn't tell you who owned it before Jack walker and about 99% of people on here couldn't either without the help of Wikipedia. So I'm gonna be in the trenches, on me own if needs be, I'm fighting for the shirt. If some of you wet arses wanna grow some jaw, I'll be here waitin.
The-Jerome-and-SteveHi RUinsane,You have got some "Balls" coming on here with your opinion and although I may disagree you are welcome to give it, I will be following Jeromes way though, dont get mad if we differ in our views we all want the same and that is our club back, take heart everyone we will get there in the end.
-Show wrote:
RUinsane wrote:Truth is the majority will be booing kean throughout every game. The voices of Kean Out will be heard louder than ever in a near empty stadium. If you are not buying tickets, still travel to ewood on matchday and await the coaches arriving and give kean hell. Travel to away games banners galore no gestapo to stop us away from Ewood. They will find out that we haven't forgiven and will never forget. I will be there from the first friendly, Kean Out, before every home game Kean Out, during every away game Kean Out.A Darener wrote: Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it.. The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about. Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before. Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not. I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Darener you sound a bit down today, come on give some positivity, you can sing "Kean out" to your hearts content at Accy on Saturday.
Frenchy I am trying my best here?
Lancs - pensioner
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12:15pm Tue 17 Jul 12
DanBlackburn wrote:good post
RUinsane wrote:RU - do you really get what is going on? Your blind support for the cancerous regime currently festering in at ewood is nothing short of cowardice. Just like you i am a life longer and season ticket holder. I also probably travel further than you - 4 hours round trip. Not renewing and only attending away fixtures is the brave thing to do. it upsets me when i think about it. Rovers are such a big part of me that not going to Ewood leaves me feeling bereft. But this is the last thing I have. No-one is listening to our protests. I have one question for you, that you must answer: when does it get bad enough for you to withdraw? If Fester takes us down to Division 1? Will you still be renewing when he is confirmed manager? What would it take? Some of us have reached our stomach churning limit already. I cannot stand the mere sight of his odious grinning smug face. He is laughing at YOU. UR Insane.A Darener wrote: Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it.. The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about. Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before. Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not. I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
unclejacklegend
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12:16pm Tue 17 Jul 12
A Darener
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12:17pm Tue 17 Jul 12
yeh! Other things on my mind at the moment, got a leaking roof, which doesn't help during the rainy season and my roofer has disappeared.
But am still following these threads with interest. Every now and then the usual Kean suspects come out the woodwork to try and stir things up. We who genuinely support the club and not this corrupt regime are trying our best to stay positive. But it is very hard work, especially during a close season when there is no football to watch.
benal13
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12:18pm Tue 17 Jul 12
French Rover wrote:your last paragraph sounds a bit pornagraphic to me frenchrover!!!!!
I see Simon Cox is being linked strongly with the Rovers now......could be a very good striker for us with lots of goals in him.
I watched him at Swindon around 5 years ago and he was a revelation there. He scored a lot of goals for them over a couple of seasons before they sold him on. Not sure what happened at West Brom but he hasn't played many games there at all.
Could be a good partner for Best?
Whether or not Best and Cox can hit it off remains to be seen, but Best-Cox certainly sounds like a penetrative partnership, with Cox likely to operate in the hole behind the former Magpies front man. front. :)
RUinsane
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12:22pm Tue 17 Jul 12
DanBlackburn wrote:For your information I've got paperwork confirming my sanity from more than one doctor, so I can prove it. Can you. Don't band about the cowardice word because you yourself lack backbone, When the going gets tough, the tough log onto the internet and blubb like a baby. My team is Blackburn Rovers, thats the way it is. Your team is internet tomsh1ttery and bafoonery, I'm glad you aint going because you'd get in the way of me enjoying the game. Enjoy your saturdays in the mall choosing curtains and cushion covers
RUinsane wrote:RU - do you really get what is going on? Your blind support for the cancerous regime currently festering in at ewood is nothing short of cowardice. Just like you i am a life longer and season ticket holder. I also probably travel further than you - 4 hours round trip.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Not renewing and only attending away fixtures is the brave thing to do. it upsets me when i think about it. Rovers are such a big part of me that not going to Ewood leaves me feeling bereft.
But this is the last thing I have. No-one is listening to our protests.
I have one question for you, that you must answer: when does it get bad enough for you to withdraw? If Fester takes us down to Division 1? Will you still be renewing when he is confirmed manager? What would it take? Some of us have reached our stomach churning limit already. I cannot stand the mere sight of his odious grinning smug face. He is laughing at YOU. UR Insane.
fitz808
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12:24pm Tue 17 Jul 12
benal13 wrote:ah i seeeeee. i get you! i do drone on, don't i. however, in my defence, i'm not alone in that on these boards.
fitz808 wrote:come on FITZ808,THE ONE ABOVE long may we ect ect ect!!!!!benal13 wrote:you may indeed... erm which one! :)fitz808 wrote:hello FITZ808 may i just remind you of one of your early posts :long may we revel in our INSANE and inane opinions:!GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
still weall keep coming back for more... 50 shades of brown...?
benal13
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12:30pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:F O O L!!!!!!
Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:32pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:great stuff lads,, GET HIM OUT OUT OUT
The-Jerome-and-Steve -Show wrote:Hi RUinsane,You have got some "Balls" coming on here with your opinion and although I may disagree you are welcome to give it, I will be following Jeromes way though, dont get mad if we differ in our views we all want the same and that is our club back, take heart everyone we will get there in the end. Darener you sound a bit down today, come on give some positivity, you can sing "Kean out" to your hearts content at Accy on Saturday. Frenchy I am trying my best here?RUinsane wrote:Truth is the majority will be booing kean throughout every game. The voices of Kean Out will be heard louder than ever in a near empty stadium. If you are not buying tickets, still travel to ewood on matchday and await the coaches arriving and give kean hell. Travel to away games banners galore no gestapo to stop us away from Ewood. They will find out that we haven't forgiven and will never forget. I will be there from the first friendly, Kean Out, before every home game Kean Out, during every away game Kean Out.A Darener wrote: Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it.. The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about. Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before. Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not. I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
French Rover
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12:39pm Tue 17 Jul 12
benal13 wrote:it was copied from an Irish website that suggested that Best-Long-Cox could be a good threesome for Ireland ;)
French Rover wrote:your last paragraph sounds a bit pornagraphic to me frenchrover!!!!!
I see Simon Cox is being linked strongly with the Rovers now......could be a very good striker for us with lots of goals in him.
I watched him at Swindon around 5 years ago and he was a revelation there. He scored a lot of goals for them over a couple of seasons before they sold him on. Not sure what happened at West Brom but he hasn't played many games there at all.
Could be a good partner for Best?
Whether or not Best and Cox can hit it off remains to be seen, but Best-Cox certainly sounds like a penetrative partnership, with Cox likely to operate in the hole behind the former Magpies front man. front. :)
Leon Best - Shaun Long- Simon Cox - but then you already knew that didn't you...
French Rover
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12:42pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:it is 'tres bon' LP......viva la difference!
The-Jerome-and-SteveHi RUinsane,You have got some "Balls" coming on here with your opinion and although I may disagree you are welcome to give it, I will be following Jeromes way though, dont get mad if we differ in our views we all want the same and that is our club back, take heart everyone we will get there in the end.
-Show wrote:
RUinsane wrote:Truth is the majority will be booing kean throughout every game. The voices of Kean Out will be heard louder than ever in a near empty stadium. If you are not buying tickets, still travel to ewood on matchday and await the coaches arriving and give kean hell. Travel to away games banners galore no gestapo to stop us away from Ewood. They will find out that we haven't forgiven and will never forget. I will be there from the first friendly, Kean Out, before every home game Kean Out, during every away game Kean Out.A Darener wrote: Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it.. The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about. Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before. Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not. I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Darener you sound a bit down today, come on give some positivity, you can sing "Kean out" to your hearts content at Accy on Saturday.
Frenchy I am trying my best here?
the_iconoclast
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12:42pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Roverthere
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12:51pm Tue 17 Jul 12
the_iconoclast wrote:We had a team capable of keeping us in the PL with a poor manager. We will have a far weaker team in the C with the same poor manager. Promotion? Dream on.
For those advocating we pay big money for players, since dalglish, when have we ever spent big and it been worthwhile? Those saying we need to replace samba, nelson and jones, we've got givet, hanley, dann and anthony o'connor competing for 2 spots at the back and in the championship im sure orr or petrovic could do a job there. In all honesty we dont need anymore players unless people leave but its always worthwhile, especially with younger players like these portuguese, to get them in for cheap and see what they've got (n'zonzi from amiens springs to mind). Also 3 teams get relegated every year in the premier league, get over it. Relegation isnt the be all and end all. Allardyce should have got us relegated with his dismal approach and kean/venkys did get us relegated with such dismal support. In the championship we should have a team capable of getting promoted providing our twelfth man is supportive however playing another season a man down is likely to result in another abject campaign. If, and I highly doubt it due to the acute obtuseness of the majority of the rovers faithful, we manage to get back up, we should be in a decent position to prosper particularly if were dealing in foreign players as with a few exceptions brits cant play or understand football
Lancs - pensioner
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12:52pm Tue 17 Jul 12
the_iconoclast wrote:Hi Icon, I agree with most of your points, but I wont think its a new twelfth man we need its a new manager, I am not just saying that for sayings sake, we have what looks on paper a average/good Championship squad but watching Kean in action as a manager last season left me with the view he had no idea on motivation or tactics hence us getting relegated.
For those advocating we pay big money for players, since dalglish, when have we ever spent big and it been worthwhile? Those saying we need to replace samba, nelson and jones, we've got givet, hanley, dann and anthony o'connor competing for 2 spots at the back and in the championship im sure orr or petrovic could do a job there. In all honesty we dont need anymore players unless people leave but its always worthwhile, especially with younger players like these portuguese, to get them in for cheap and see what they've got (n'zonzi from amiens springs to mind). Also 3 teams get relegated every year in the premier league, get over it. Relegation isnt the be all and end all. Allardyce should have got us relegated with his dismal approach and kean/venkys did get us relegated with such dismal support. In the championship we should have a team capable of getting promoted providing our twelfth man is supportive however playing another season a man down is likely to result in another abject campaign. If, and I highly doubt it due to the acute obtuseness of the majority of the rovers faithful, we manage to get back up, we should be in a decent position to prosper particularly if were dealing in foreign players as with a few exceptions brits cant play or understand football
Allardyce, well I certainly did not like his style of play but I personaly am 100% convinced we would not be in the championship if hoof ball was still here.
paddyjohn
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12:57pm Tue 17 Jul 12
A Darener
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1:08pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Enjoying the game!
I've just realised what you remind me of. Those little old ladies sat in front of the guillotine in revolutionary France, busy knitting whilst the aristocracy or in this case Blackburn Rovers go before the executioner to have their head cut off. If I remember my history correctly many of the revolutionaries got their comeuppance in the end. Just as Kean and company and all their supporters will do eventually. Enjoy going to Ewood, but don't forget your knitting.
benal13
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1:20pm Tue 17 Jul 12
the_iconoclast wrote:cant agree with most of what you say what i would say is brit fans understand football and the obtuseness that you call it is caused by the lack of understanding by the IDIOTS WHO RUN THE CLUB!!!!!!
For those advocating we pay big money for players, since dalglish, when have we ever spent big and it been worthwhile? Those saying we need to replace samba, nelson and jones, we've got givet, hanley, dann and anthony o'connor competing for 2 spots at the back and in the championship im sure orr or petrovic could do a job there. In all honesty we dont need anymore players unless people leave but its always worthwhile, especially with younger players like these portuguese, to get them in for cheap and see what they've got (n'zonzi from amiens springs to mind). Also 3 teams get relegated every year in the premier league, get over it. Relegation isnt the be all and end all. Allardyce should have got us relegated with his dismal approach and kean/venkys did get us relegated with such dismal support. In the championship we should have a team capable of getting promoted providing our twelfth man is supportive however playing another season a man down is likely to result in another abject campaign. If, and I highly doubt it due to the acute obtuseness of the majority of the rovers faithful, we manage to get back up, we should be in a decent position to prosper particularly if were dealing in foreign players as with a few exceptions brits cant play or understand football
Rovers 1495
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1:23pm Tue 17 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:Err, why would you even go to your doctor and ask him to verify that you are not loony ?
DanBlackburn wrote:For your information I've got paperwork confirming my sanity from more than one doctor, so I can prove it. Can you. Don't band about the cowardice word because you yourself lack backbone, When the going gets tough, the tough log onto the internet and blubb like a baby. My team is Blackburn Rovers, thats the way it is. Your team is internet tomsh1ttery and bafoonery, I'm glad you aint going because you'd get in the way of me enjoying the game. Enjoy your saturdays in the mall choosing curtains and cushion covers
RUinsane wrote:RU - do you really get what is going on? Your blind support for the cancerous regime currently festering in at ewood is nothing short of cowardice. Just like you i am a life longer and season ticket holder. I also probably travel further than you - 4 hours round trip.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Not renewing and only attending away fixtures is the brave thing to do. it upsets me when i think about it. Rovers are such a big part of me that not going to Ewood leaves me feeling bereft.
But this is the last thing I have. No-one is listening to our protests.
I have one question for you, that you must answer: when does it get bad enough for you to withdraw? If Fester takes us down to Division 1? Will you still be renewing when he is confirmed manager? What would it take? Some of us have reached our stomach churning limit already. I cannot stand the mere sight of his odious grinning smug face. He is laughing at YOU. UR Insane.
Rovers 1495
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1:25pm Tue 17 Jul 12
French Rover wrote:It's the 'operating in the hole' bit that really turned me on
benal13 wrote:it was copied from an Irish website that suggested that Best-Long-Cox could be a good threesome for Ireland ;)
French Rover wrote:your last paragraph sounds a bit pornagraphic to me frenchrover!!!!!
I see Simon Cox is being linked strongly with the Rovers now......could be a very good striker for us with lots of goals in him.
I watched him at Swindon around 5 years ago and he was a revelation there. He scored a lot of goals for them over a couple of seasons before they sold him on. Not sure what happened at West Brom but he hasn't played many games there at all.
Could be a good partner for Best?
Whether or not Best and Cox can hit it off remains to be seen, but Best-Cox certainly sounds like a penetrative partnership, with Cox likely to operate in the hole behind the former Magpies front man. front. :)
Leon Best - Shaun Long- Simon Cox - but then you already knew that didn't you...
gleechy
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1:27pm Tue 17 Jul 12
the_iconoclast wrote:Dissagree with the fans being able to turn it round. If our Manager is useless, the fans can't make up for that. Last time I looked our Manager was useless, so no change there then.
For those advocating we pay big money for players, since dalglish, when have we ever spent big and it been worthwhile? Those saying we need to replace samba, nelson and jones, we've got givet, hanley, dann and anthony o'connor competing for 2 spots at the back and in the championship im sure orr or petrovic could do a job there. In all honesty we dont need anymore players unless people leave but its always worthwhile, especially with younger players like these portuguese, to get them in for cheap and see what they've got (n'zonzi from amiens springs to mind). Also 3 teams get relegated every year in the premier league, get over it. Relegation isnt the be all and end all. Allardyce should have got us relegated with his dismal approach and kean/venkys did get us relegated with such dismal support. In the championship we should have a team capable of getting promoted providing our twelfth man is supportive however playing another season a man down is likely to result in another abject campaign. If, and I highly doubt it due to the acute obtuseness of the majority of the rovers faithful, we manage to get back up, we should be in a decent position to prosper particularly if were dealing in foreign players as with a few exceptions brits cant play or understand football
It's dissrespectfull to challenge paying fans to do as they are told, just bear that in mind. More useful to challenge a paid Manager who has a very poor record.
Jack Herer
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1:37pm Tue 17 Jul 12
the_iconoclast wrote:Jeez - how to alienate everyone in a single post.
For those advocating we pay big money for players, since dalglish, when have we ever spent big and it been worthwhile? Those saying we need to replace samba, nelson and jones, we've got givet, hanley, dann and anthony o'connor competing for 2 spots at the back and in the championship im sure orr or petrovic could do a job there. In all honesty we dont need anymore players unless people leave but its always worthwhile, especially with younger players like these portuguese, to get them in for cheap and see what they've got (n'zonzi from amiens springs to mind). Also 3 teams get relegated every year in the premier league, get over it. Relegation isnt the be all and end all. Allardyce should have got us relegated with his dismal approach and kean/venkys did get us relegated with such dismal support. In the championship we should have a team capable of getting promoted providing our twelfth man is supportive however playing another season a man down is likely to result in another abject campaign. If, and I highly doubt it due to the acute obtuseness of the majority of the rovers faithful, we manage to get back up, we should be in a decent position to prosper particularly if were dealing in foreign players as with a few exceptions brits cant play or understand football
So it's the supporters who are totally to blame? Of course, our mistake. That letter Paul Hunt sent to the Venkys telling them exactly what they should do, but they completely ignored it, that was the fans fault I take it?
Relegation? All the fans fault of course. And you say it's the acute obtuseness of the fans which will be to blame for any bad results this season as well? Wow, those fans have got a lot to answer for.
What about........the acute obtuseness of the owners though? Does that not come into it?
Every other club in the world would have sacked the manager by now, every single club. But not Rovers, which has other huge clouds over it anyway. But the owners aren't being stubborn or stupid by not doing what every other football club would have done ages ago? And that's because it's not the owners, it's the fans.
What planet are you on?
You don't seem to get people or football at all. It doesn't matter what anyone says; the fans will only be placated when Steve Kean goes. End of debate. You or I can't change that, it's just how it is now. It's football.
It seems that the Venkys are deliberately giving themselves an impossible task. Why? How stupid are they?
Jack Herer
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1:37pm Tue 17 Jul 12
the_iconoclast wrote:Jeez - how to alienate everyone in a single post.
For those advocating we pay big money for players, since dalglish, when have we ever spent big and it been worthwhile? Those saying we need to replace samba, nelson and jones, we've got givet, hanley, dann and anthony o'connor competing for 2 spots at the back and in the championship im sure orr or petrovic could do a job there. In all honesty we dont need anymore players unless people leave but its always worthwhile, especially with younger players like these portuguese, to get them in for cheap and see what they've got (n'zonzi from amiens springs to mind). Also 3 teams get relegated every year in the premier league, get over it. Relegation isnt the be all and end all. Allardyce should have got us relegated with his dismal approach and kean/venkys did get us relegated with such dismal support. In the championship we should have a team capable of getting promoted providing our twelfth man is supportive however playing another season a man down is likely to result in another abject campaign. If, and I highly doubt it due to the acute obtuseness of the majority of the rovers faithful, we manage to get back up, we should be in a decent position to prosper particularly if were dealing in foreign players as with a few exceptions brits cant play or understand football
So it's the supporters who are totally to blame? Of course, our mistake. That letter Paul Hunt sent to the Venkys telling them exactly what they should do, but they completely ignored it, that was the fans fault I take it?
Relegation? All the fans fault of course. And you say it's the acute obtuseness of the fans which will be to blame for any bad results this season as well? Wow, those fans have got a lot to answer for.
What about........the acute obtuseness of the owners though? Does that not come into it?
Every other club in the world would have sacked the manager by now, every single club. But not Rovers, which has other huge clouds over it anyway. But the owners aren't being stubborn or stupid by not doing what every other football club would have done ages ago? And that's because it's not the owners, it's the fans.
What planet are you on?
You don't seem to get people or football at all. It doesn't matter what anyone says; the fans will only be placated when Steve Kean goes. End of debate. You or I can't change that, it's just how it is now. It's football.
It seems that the Venkys are deliberately giving themselves an impossible task. Why? How stupid are they?
benal13
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1:41pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Rovers 1495 wrote:he must have wanted a second opinion but i think that doctor should be STRUCK OFF!!!!!
RUinsane wrote:Err, why would you even go to your doctor and ask him to verify that you are not loony ?
DanBlackburn wrote:For your information I've got paperwork confirming my sanity from more than one doctor, so I can prove it. Can you. Don't band about the cowardice word because you yourself lack backbone, When the going gets tough, the tough log onto the internet and blubb like a baby. My team is Blackburn Rovers, thats the way it is. Your team is internet tomsh1ttery and bafoonery, I'm glad you aint going because you'd get in the way of me enjoying the game. Enjoy your saturdays in the mall choosing curtains and cushion covers
RUinsane wrote:RU - do you really get what is going on? Your blind support for the cancerous regime currently festering in at ewood is nothing short of cowardice. Just like you i am a life longer and season ticket holder. I also probably travel further than you - 4 hours round trip.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Not renewing and only attending away fixtures is the brave thing to do. it upsets me when i think about it. Rovers are such a big part of me that not going to Ewood leaves me feeling bereft.
But this is the last thing I have. No-one is listening to our protests.
I have one question for you, that you must answer: when does it get bad enough for you to withdraw? If Fester takes us down to Division 1? Will you still be renewing when he is confirmed manager? What would it take? Some of us have reached our stomach churning limit already. I cannot stand the mere sight of his odious grinning smug face. He is laughing at YOU. UR Insane.
nearly sane
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1:42pm Tue 17 Jul 12
A Darener
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1:43pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Jack Herer
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1:45pm Tue 17 Jul 12
blueblooded wrote:"If results don't go our way this season" - gotta love the way you keep pushing your vain hope that the results would make any difference to the fans' opinion of Kean.
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Well there is one titbit that is good news to be positive about lp.
Hmmmm positive spin, come on I can do it, Hmmmm I suppose if one of the four ends up being a gud un we can sell him next year, sorry it's do hard being positive.
Because the core business needs so much attention due to the financial downturn, it's rumoured that Anuradha Desai is planning to step down from the board of Rovers. Since she appears to be the last saviour of baldy it doesn't bode well for him if results dont go our way this season..
Got to be a happy thought!
Good news on Anuradha Desai though (well done for knowing her full name so well too I notice). That means Kean can be sacked now surely then, as she was the only one who wanted him to stay.
Happy days! When's he going then, and if not, why not?
nearly sane
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1:48pm Tue 17 Jul 12
nearly sane wrote:Knowhere(?) -- I meant nowhere!!! Note to self - read your post before submitting it, not after!
People have been shouting "Kean out" for 18 months and nothing happens. If Rovers play Championship football in an empty (apart from the away fans) stadium, the WORLD's media will sit up and take notice. Booing and blogging get us knowhere. Empty Stadium = Gread PR for our cause = Kean Out. DON'T GO UNTIL HE HAS GONE.
givet82
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1:55pm Tue 17 Jul 12
nearly sane wrote:nobody cares about stadium's being empty especially blacburn's. Check what happened to teams like middlesborough and nobody flutter's an eyelid.We hadn't had massive attendances for year's, and i don't see the media give a crap when wigan are hovering around 10-15k and that's in the premiership!
People have been shouting "Kean out" for 18 months and nothing happens. If Rovers play Championship football in an empty (apart from the away fans) stadium, the WORLD's media will sit up and take notice. Booing and blogging get us knowhere. Empty Stadium = Gread PR for our cause = Kean Out. DON'T GO UNTIL HE HAS GONE.
IrishRover3
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2:05pm Tue 17 Jul 12
givet82 wrote:What the point of this, whats the point of that, you have been defeated in your head, go and have a word with yourself.... this is the way it is going, see it through don't go, take the pain.....
nearly sane wrote:nobody cares about stadium's being empty especially blacburn's. Check what happened to teams like middlesborough and nobody flutter's an eyelid.We hadn't had massive attendances for year's, and i don't see the media give a crap when wigan are hovering around 10-15k and that's in the premiership!
People have been shouting "Kean out" for 18 months and nothing happens. If Rovers play Championship football in an empty (apart from the away fans) stadium, the WORLD's media will sit up and take notice. Booing and blogging get us knowhere. Empty Stadium = Gread PR for our cause = Kean Out. DON'T GO UNTIL HE HAS GONE.
MatthewCA
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2:06pm Tue 17 Jul 12
IrishRover3
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2:10pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:The quote is"....take it, take the pain". Don't go to where the joker roams up and down his technical area, sorry area it hasn't been technical for years....
Suggest Kean to get few defenders where Robinson can trust and keep the post with clean sheets in few matchs. Anyway I agree Kean is our star for next season. So Good Luck all all the players and Fans.
A Darener
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2:10pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Who do you agree with? Only yourself!
Suggest Kean to get few defenders where Robinson can trust and keep the post with clean sheets in few matchs. Anyway I agree Kean is our star for next season. So Good Luck all all the players and Fans.
bring back the good old days
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2:12pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:WHAT???
Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.
IrishRover3
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2:14pm Tue 17 Jul 12
bring back the good old days wrote:Hey sur are those eyes of yours painted and your ears stuck on....
MatthewCA wrote:WHAT???
Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.
MatthewCA
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2:15pm Tue 17 Jul 12
A Darener wrote:Why this much negative thoughts, Kean is doing the best to rebuild his team for next season............co
Well if it is the fans fault we will be all right next season because the fans won't be there. Oops! forgot, but Kean will be, so no change there then!
mmon, get charged to support. If u consider new manager this going to be the same case...then what else FANS do. So is better to wait for the new buildup and encourage the team.
givet82
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2:18pm Tue 17 Jul 12
IrishRover3 wrote:think you need a doctor your talking irish jibberish
givet82 wrote:What the point of this, whats the point of that, you have been defeated in your head, go and have a word with yourself.... this is the way it is going, see it through don't go, take the pain.....
nearly sane wrote:nobody cares about stadium's being empty especially blacburn's. Check what happened to teams like middlesborough and nobody flutter's an eyelid.We hadn't had massive attendances for year's, and i don't see the media give a crap when wigan are hovering around 10-15k and that's in the premiership!
People have been shouting "Kean out" for 18 months and nothing happens. If Rovers play Championship football in an empty (apart from the away fans) stadium, the WORLD's media will sit up and take notice. Booing and blogging get us knowhere. Empty Stadium = Gread PR for our cause = Kean Out. DON'T GO UNTIL HE HAS GONE.
MatthewCA
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2:18pm Tue 17 Jul 12
nearly sane wrote:I love the Blackburn Rovers Club. As a Fan I attach and waiting to see the club play and play and play each match. Common fans...........this is a sports and win or loose is a game of passion. I am with team and I support Kean to rebuild and focus to win games with good players with him.
People have been shouting "Kean out" for 18 months and nothing happens. If Rovers play Championship football in an empty (apart from the away fans) stadium, the WORLD's media will sit up and take notice. Booing and blogging get us knowhere. Empty Stadium = Gread PR for our cause = Kean Out. DON'T GO UNTIL HE HAS GONE.
judavies
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2:21pm Tue 17 Jul 12
How is the weather in India, are you part some sweat shop of English students eeking out a meagre living supplying barely believable positive posts.
I haven't posted for some time myself, but first match I remember aged 6, 1968 Norwich at home. I remember it because one of The Norwich players had white boots on quite novel for the time. What about you Iconoclast what detail would you share from your first BRFC memory?
I can see what is happening here, Kean is a megalomaniac, and is now busily surrounding himself with Portuguesse speaking sychophants. Because he knows the langage he can maintain control and develop quite a powerful clique in that dressing room. Best is another from Coventry days and so on, and so forth.
Until someone can provide a rational explanation for Kean still being the manager of this team or in fact any team, I am open ear'd to any conspiracy however fanciful.
I dont live locally so only manage a few games per season, so it is easy for me to say that I would choose to stay away not because of what they have done to the club but the continual contempt and humiliation heaped upon decent ordinary people.
MatthewCA
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2:22pm Tue 17 Jul 12
A Darener wrote:Players can come from any part of the world to play with the Clubs, Fans just enjoy the games and comment, Kean is a forever manager for BRFC, he love portugal and he speaks too.............so enjoy
Are the Venky's opening a VenkyExpress in Portugal?
MatthewCA
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2:25pm Tue 17 Jul 12
bring back the good old days wrote:Football
MatthewCA wrote: Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.WHAT???
givet82
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2:28pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:matthew u talk wet, "Kean is forever manager for BRFC" that does't make any sense, u must be a dingle on a wind up?
A Darener wrote:Players can come from any part of the world to play with the Clubs, Fans just enjoy the games and comment, Kean is a forever manager for BRFC, he love portugal and he speaks too.............so enjoy
Are the Venky's opening a VenkyExpress in Portugal?
bring back the good old days
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2:31pm Tue 17 Jul 12
the_iconoclast wrote:Everyone is entitled to their opinion and long may it be so.
For those advocating we pay big money for players, since dalglish, when have we ever spent big and it been worthwhile? Those saying we need to replace samba, nelson and jones, we've got givet, hanley, dann and anthony o'connor competing for 2 spots at the back and in the championship im sure orr or petrovic could do a job there. In all honesty we dont need anymore players unless people leave but its always worthwhile, especially with younger players like these portuguese, to get them in for cheap and see what they've got (n'zonzi from amiens springs to mind). Also 3 teams get relegated every year in the premier league, get over it. Relegation isnt the be all and end all. Allardyce should have got us relegated with his dismal approach and kean/venkys did get us relegated with such dismal support. In the championship we should have a team capable of getting promoted providing our twelfth man is supportive however playing another season a man down is likely to result in another abject campaign. If, and I highly doubt it due to the acute obtuseness of the majority of the rovers faithful, we manage to get back up, we should be in a decent position to prosper particularly if were dealing in foreign players as with a few exceptions brits cant play or understand football
But, like many others you talk as if its our 'right' to be promoted to the Prem.
Not quite sure why this is so, but more than likely due to the 'Jack Walker' factor.
I can think of many more teams that have a much right and moreso than ourselves. They may not have the equal calibre of squad that we have (so it is opinioned), but by and large they have footballing people running them and capable managers. That is what will bridge the gap (if indeed there is one).
You seem to suggest that the support can make up the difference (i.e. mask Keans deficiencies), but I think that his peformances up to now can no way be propped up by mere vocal support. The void is too wide.
However, we shall see come August.
PS: I would prefer that all Kean out chants be silenced during and before playing time, simply so that the management and team can perform unhindered as that is only fair, when the assessment of their performances can be evaluated without due cause being blamed upon the supporter.
benal13
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2:33pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:BACK TO TURDMOOR DINGBAT
A Darener wrote:Why this much negative thoughts, Kean is doing the best to rebuild his team for next season............co
Well if it is the fans fault we will be all right next season because the fans won't be there. Oops! forgot, but Kean will be, so no change there then!
mmon, get charged to support. If u consider new manager this going to be the same case...then what else FANS do. So is better to wait for the new buildup and encourage the team.
MatthewCA
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2:34pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Ianwhittam wrote:I support KEAN, he is the best to continue as a manager for venkys BRFC, why for last 10 months he understand the heat of chickens and fans. He is a brave manager and best captain to rebuild his team. I love Blackburn rovers play on the field and win or lose I am with the team.
Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!
givet82
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2:39pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:ha ha omg,, people on here call me for being positive but i really believe you are steve kean or part of rover's board or promotion team.No fan i know want's kean as manager tell us the truth
Ianwhittam wrote:I support KEAN, he is the best to continue as a manager for venkys BRFC, why for last 10 months he understand the heat of chickens and fans. He is a brave manager and best captain to rebuild his team. I love Blackburn rovers play on the field and win or lose I am with the team.
Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!
MatthewCA
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2:39pm Tue 17 Jul 12
givet82 wrote:If I talk wet, then the dry is "Kean is still our manager" I support the position and players. I love the club. my support to bring our team to Premier League.
MatthewCA wrote:matthew u talk wet, "Kean is forever manager for BRFC" that does't make any sense, u must be a dingle on a wind up?A Darener wrote: Are the Venky's opening a VenkyExpress in Portugal?Players can come from any part of the world to play with the Clubs, Fans just enjoy the games and comment, Kean is a forever manager for BRFC, he love portugal and he speaks too.............so enjoy
MatthewCA
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2:42pm Tue 17 Jul 12
thresholdweller wrote:I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?
MatthewCA
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2:47pm Tue 17 Jul 12
fitz808 wrote:Players can come from any part of the world. But we don't have to waste time like "Modeste" like player, try and leave it. Boss should check his ability/technics to fire in ground. stamina to stay 120 mts......etc for young players as backup to fullfill all the tournaments with fit players.
IrishRover3 wrote:to be fair, they know a lot more about football than i ever will , so i would feel uneasy about being overly critical about such matters. we all know that kean and venkys have been beyond poor so far, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are better placed to be making recruitment decisions than i am. as for the malaysian guy - there is absolutley no reason whatsoever that a player from malaysia wouldn't be a decent player. this guy may not turn out to be good enough, but absolutley no problem in having a look. we're not (and rarely have been) in a position to pick and chose from a perfect selection of choices, so let's just crack on where we can and prepare as best we can for teh coming season where kean will start off as manager and venkys will still be the owners. beyond that, let's hope we win some games and undergo a startling transformation in fortunes. if not, let's hope we can at least start with a change in the management.fitz808 wrote:Like the Mayalsian.....! do you honestly believe that those idiots would recognise talent during a trial?GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
givet82
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2:47pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:to make as pride,surprice.Your 99% Indian im sure
thresholdweller wrote:I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?
benal13
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2:56pm Tue 17 Jul 12
givet82 wrote:NO HES 100% BARMY
MatthewCA wrote:to make as pride,surprice.Your 99% Indian im sure
thresholdweller wrote:I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?
MatthewCA
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2:58pm Tue 17 Jul 12
givet82 wrote:The truth is "in the middle of the last season, I noticed blackburn is the only team who won the title other than 4 other teams in the history of league. Which makes me so emotional , I saw the old match of blackburn and become a fan of that club, I live in middle east and I know who is the owners of Manchester city, he is also from middle east. so we love the clubs and passion to watch some the best players together and rubbing shoulders to get best price in the market. Some how I fall in love with blackburn and I always follow there matchs with 100% support. So blackburn match is like watching a movie where Kean - is the Villan, Players are Stars, Fans are the audiance. All in one frame of 90 mts.
MatthewCA wrote:ha ha omg,, people on here call me for being positive but i really believe you are steve kean or part of rover's board or promotion team.No fan i know want's kean as manager tell us the truthIanwhittam wrote: Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!I support KEAN, he is the best to continue as a manager for venkys BRFC, why for last 10 months he understand the heat of chickens and fans. He is a brave manager and best captain to rebuild his team. I love Blackburn rovers play on the field and win or lose I am with the team.
MatthewCA
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3:03pm Tue 17 Jul 12
givet82 wrote:Why Indians cannot play football............
MatthewCA wrote:to make as pride,surprice.Your 99% Indian im surethresholdweller wrote: I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
......I am from middle east
juanbbien
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3:05pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:I will have a pint of what ever your on
givet82 wrote:The truth is "in the middle of the last season, I noticed blackburn is the only team who won the title other than 4 other teams in the history of league. Which makes me so emotional , I saw the old match of blackburn and become a fan of that club, I live in middle east and I know who is the owners of Manchester city, he is also from middle east. so we love the clubs and passion to watch some the best players together and rubbing shoulders to get best price in the market. Some how I fall in love with blackburn and I always follow there matchs with 100% support. So blackburn match is like watching a movie where Kean - is the Villan, Players are Stars, Fans are the audiance. All in one frame of 90 mts.
MatthewCA wrote:ha ha omg,, people on here call me for being positive but i really believe you are steve kean or part of rover's board or promotion team.No fan i know want's kean as manager tell us the truthIanwhittam wrote: Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!I support KEAN, he is the best to continue as a manager for venkys BRFC, why for last 10 months he understand the heat of chickens and fans. He is a brave manager and best captain to rebuild his team. I love Blackburn rovers play on the field and win or lose I am with the team.
maltese blue n white
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3:10pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Reading your post leads me to the conclusion that you and Kean have a lot in common. You both are p*ssed and deluded...
Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.
Rovers 1495
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3:14pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Were you off sick when they did English at school ?
fitz808 wrote:Players can come from any part of the world. But we don't have to waste time like "Modeste" like player, try and leave it. Boss should check his ability/technics to fire in ground. stamina to stay 120 mts......etc for young players as backup to fullfill all the tournaments with fit players.
IrishRover3 wrote:to be fair, they know a lot more about football than i ever will , so i would feel uneasy about being overly critical about such matters. we all know that kean and venkys have been beyond poor so far, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are better placed to be making recruitment decisions than i am. as for the malaysian guy - there is absolutley no reason whatsoever that a player from malaysia wouldn't be a decent player. this guy may not turn out to be good enough, but absolutley no problem in having a look. we're not (and rarely have been) in a position to pick and chose from a perfect selection of choices, so let's just crack on where we can and prepare as best we can for teh coming season where kean will start off as manager and venkys will still be the owners. beyond that, let's hope we win some games and undergo a startling transformation in fortunes. if not, let's hope we can at least start with a change in the management.fitz808 wrote:Like the Mayalsian.....! do you honestly believe that those idiots would recognise talent during a trial?GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
IrishRover3
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3:17pm Tue 17 Jul 12
RobbyRover
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3:21pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Hi Matthew, I was born and brought up in the middle east.
givet82 wrote:The truth is "in the middle of the last season, I noticed blackburn is the only team who won the title other than 4 other teams in the history of league. Which makes me so emotional , I saw the old match of blackburn and become a fan of that club, I live in middle east and I know who is the owners of Manchester city, he is also from middle east. so we love the clubs and passion to watch some the best players together and rubbing shoulders to get best price in the market. Some how I fall in love with blackburn and I always follow there matchs with 100% support. So blackburn match is like watching a movie where Kean - is the Villan, Players are Stars, Fans are the audiance. All in one frame of 90 mts.
MatthewCA wrote:ha ha omg,, people on here call me for being positive but i really believe you are steve kean or part of rover's board or promotion team.No fan i know want's kean as manager tell us the truthIanwhittam wrote: Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!I support KEAN, he is the best to continue as a manager for venkys BRFC, why for last 10 months he understand the heat of chickens and fans. He is a brave manager and best captain to rebuild his team. I love Blackburn rovers play on the field and win or lose I am with the team.
Having followed affairs there over the last year very closely, one thing I can say for certain is that, in the middle east, when they don't like the person in charge, they make the Rovers' fans protests last season look like a morris dancing lesson!
IrishRover3
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3:21pm Tue 17 Jul 12
IrishRover3 wrote:Infact if my dog went on like MatthewCA, i'd take it out the back and put a cartridge in it to put it out of its misery!
I support the men in white coats turning up at MatthewCA door and carting him away to a padded cell for his own safety...
maltese blue n white
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3:27pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:You are at best p*ssed, at worst certifiable....
Ianwhittam wrote:I support KEAN, he is the best to continue as a manager for venkys BRFC, why for last 10 months he understand the heat of chickens and fans. He is a brave manager and best captain to rebuild his team. I love Blackburn rovers play on the field and win or lose I am with the team.
Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!
givet82
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3:32pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:that is actually a decent post for you, but matthew consider this, as you correctly posted blackburn have won the pl and the only team apart from the big 4 in history, that is why all these protest, why do you think we got relegated?Mark Hughes?Big Sam?No the answer is Steve Kean and the Venky's gutless ways for not sacking him before we went down.And don't for one minute suggest that middle eastern people have more passion for BRFC than us the real fan's born and bred in our blood, saying that you do crack me up:)
givet82 wrote:The truth is "in the middle of the last season, I noticed blackburn is the only team who won the title other than 4 other teams in the history of league. Which makes me so emotional , I saw the old match of blackburn and become a fan of that club, I live in middle east and I know who is the owners of Manchester city, he is also from middle east. so we love the clubs and passion to watch some the best players together and rubbing shoulders to get best price in the market. Some how I fall in love with blackburn and I always follow there matchs with 100% support. So blackburn match is like watching a movie where Kean - is the Villan, Players are Stars, Fans are the audiance. All in one frame of 90 mts.
MatthewCA wrote:ha ha omg,, people on here call me for being positive but i really believe you are steve kean or part of rover's board or promotion team.No fan i know want's kean as manager tell us the truthIanwhittam wrote: Dear Andy Cryer On behalf of all Rovers supporters, would you please ask Steve Kean why he has not felt the need to at least make a public apology regarding his abhorrent management of the club we love. In all honesty ( and sincerely) without malice, it makes my stomach turn when article after article mentions that kean has gone here or done this and that, shot over to Portugal etc. I cringe when the phrase 'Rovers boss' is applied to him. Surely Andy, every time the telegraph does approach Kean, or interviews him face to face, questions should constantly be put to him until answers are finally unearthedl. Their is no rocket science involved here. The supporters deserve to hear Kean say that he bogged up, they need to hear him say that in any normal football club his position would have been untenable months ago, and he would, by now, have been sacked. No true Rovers supporter, whether a mouthy dissenter like me, or the hundreds who have been worn down by the 'Lack of kean PR machine.' {catchy eh?) will ever be happy with kean in charge, because that would mean accepting, and, being a part of his sad delusional world. He has the job, he has the wage, but whilst at Rovers, unless he accepts that Northerners value honesty, pride and hard work and he crawls, begging for forgiveness and another chance. He will never have the kudos of a top rated football manager because his record at Rovers will haunt him as well as us. I could not live like that, no Lancastrian I know could live like that....... why should we have to put up with someone like that. Every Match, let the Rovers Roar KEAN OUT!!!!!I support KEAN, he is the best to continue as a manager for venkys BRFC, why for last 10 months he understand the heat of chickens and fans. He is a brave manager and best captain to rebuild his team. I love Blackburn rovers play on the field and win or lose I am with the team.
DanBlackburn
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3:34pm Tue 17 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:RU - you have not answered my question?
DanBlackburn wrote:For your information I've got paperwork confirming my sanity from more than one doctor, so I can prove it. Can you. Don't band about the cowardice word because you yourself lack backbone, When the going gets tough, the tough log onto the internet and blubb like a baby. My team is Blackburn Rovers, thats the way it is. Your team is internet tomsh1ttery and bafoonery, I'm glad you aint going because you'd get in the way of me enjoying the game. Enjoy your saturdays in the mall choosing curtains and cushion covers
RUinsane wrote:RU - do you really get what is going on? Your blind support for the cancerous regime currently festering in at ewood is nothing short of cowardice. Just like you i am a life longer and season ticket holder. I also probably travel further than you - 4 hours round trip.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Not renewing and only attending away fixtures is the brave thing to do. it upsets me when i think about it. Rovers are such a big part of me that not going to Ewood leaves me feeling bereft.
But this is the last thing I have. No-one is listening to our protests.
I have one question for you, that you must answer: when does it get bad enough for you to withdraw? If Fester takes us down to Division 1? Will you still be renewing when he is confirmed manager? What would it take? Some of us have reached our stomach churning limit already. I cannot stand the mere sight of his odious grinning smug face. He is laughing at YOU. UR Insane.
Where is the line for you? 1st Divison with you beloved Fester at the helm?
Will you still be taking your misguided high horse?
We already know about the whole rotten corruption, agent funding, asset stripping last 20 months. What will it take for you to stop feeding them?
Looking forward to a considered reply.....
benal13
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3:37pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:WHY NDIANS CANNOT PLAY FOOTBALL BECAUSE THE COWBOYS KEEP SHOOTING EM ! AND AS FOR ;I AM FROM MIDDLE EAST YOU FORGOT TO PUT WARD ON THE END, NUMB NUTS.
givet82 wrote:Why Indians cannot play football............
MatthewCA wrote:to make as pride,surprice.Your 99% Indian im surethresholdweller wrote: I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
......I am from middle east
lusorover
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3:52pm Tue 17 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:Excellent post.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Well said.
Let the sheep stay away.
blueblooded
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3:54pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Silva deal isn't dead yet, no movement so far, ball seems to be in Silva's corner to consider the revised Sporting offer as Andy reported yesterday.
garyintandem
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3:58pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Do not start the season with the words "we had to let Dann and Givet go for 8m as they didn't want to play for the club and we didn't have time to replace them so Danny Murphy and Gomes will start at the back"
buzzinfly
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3:58pm Tue 17 Jul 12
I've found out who it is ............MathewCA
Wild Rover
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4:06pm Tue 17 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:You wont be on your own, I and a lot more will be there for sure
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Yeah, i took some time coming to my decision, I didn't take it lightly, but I mulled it over for ages. But as I say, I've seen the thin before, and I'm ready to shout and scream the boys some support. I don't care who owns it, I couldn't tell you who owned it before Jack walker and about 99% of people on here couldn't either without the help of Wikipedia. So I'm gonna be in the trenches, on me own if needs be, I'm fighting for the shirt. If some of you wet arses wanna grow some jaw, I'll be here waitin.
The-Jerome-and-SteveHi RUinsane,You have got some "Balls" coming on here with your opinion and although I may disagree you are welcome to give it, I will be following Jeromes way though, dont get mad if we differ in our views we all want the same and that is our club back, take heart everyone we will get there in the end.
-Show wrote:
RUinsane wrote:Truth is the majority will be booing kean throughout every game. The voices of Kean Out will be heard louder than ever in a near empty stadium. If you are not buying tickets, still travel to ewood on matchday and await the coaches arriving and give kean hell. Travel to away games banners galore no gestapo to stop us away from Ewood. They will find out that we haven't forgiven and will never forget. I will be there from the first friendly, Kean Out, before every home game Kean Out, during every away game Kean Out.A Darener wrote: Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it.. The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about. Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before. Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not. I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Darener you sound a bit down today, come on give some positivity, you can sing "Kean out" to your hearts content at Accy on Saturday.
Frenchy I am trying my best here?
The club first last and always
GAZHAY
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4:13pm Tue 17 Jul 12
fitz808 wrote:My point really is despite all the promise of money being there to spend we aren't seeing much being spent. This has now happened for several seasons and the money they are gaining on transfers is ridiculous.
GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
Where has all the money gone, appreciate we have been relegated but Samba was sold at a time where they knew the money didn't need to be re-invested.
azza234
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4:22pm Tue 17 Jul 12
GAZHAY wrote:hmm last time i looked leon best cost over 3 million me thinks thats money so u saying they aint spent any is a lie its irrelevant where the money came from but its money
Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go.
Give that man some fairy juice!
Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!
Coeur de Lion
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4:22pm Tue 17 Jul 12
givet82
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4:23pm Tue 17 Jul 12
GAZHAY wrote:there not being that bad with the spending really are they?Big wages apparently aswell, at least there showing intent now yes it was to late. As for Samba and Jones they were both offered big wages to stay but their minds were made up.I wonder if we get cox who will have spent the most in the championship probably ever!
fitz808 wrote:My point really is despite all the promise of money being there to spend we aren't seeing much being spent. This has now happened for several seasons and the money they are gaining on transfers is ridiculous.
GAZHAY wrote: Thats obviously the Silva deal dead in the water! We have now gone from a so called £3 million pound for one player to yet more freebies, there was never going to be any money spent just another spin of Keans bulls@@t wand and away we go. Give that man some fairy juice! Keep pretending we might spend some money and let us all buy into it....NOT!!!!!i don't understand, how does this prove the silva deal is dead in the water? clubs have trials all the time. so what's wrong with trialing another midfielder. if we lose someone like nzonzi and didn't at least start to try and look at other options, everyone would be in uproar at the negligence. as for the portuguese connection, with kean having spent a lot of time there during his ealry coaching days, he probably has a network upon which to tap. so it's not particularly surprising that most of his efforts are focused there at the moment. so far, we have people criticising bringing in older players, people criticising bringing in younger players, people criticising bringing in foreign players, people criticising bringing in uk players that have chosen to step down to the championship, people stating as a fact that the old squad will leave etc etc etc... must be quite difficut just trying to walk around with such jerky knees! this is a pretty uneventful story, so why not see it as that for a change. we are bringing one or two in for a trial. if they impress, they might get a contract, if not then they wont. other than that i can't really see any issue here. i await the enlightening from the rest of you though!
Where has all the money gone, appreciate we have been relegated but Samba was sold at a time where they knew the money didn't need to be re-invested.
petemcglinn
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4:26pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Can I have some of what ever you have been drinking please.
givet82 wrote:If I talk wet, then the dry is "Kean is still our manager" I support the position and players. I love the club. my support to bring our team to Premier League.
MatthewCA wrote:matthew u talk wet, "Kean is forever manager for BRFC" that does't make any sense, u must be a dingle on a wind up?A Darener wrote: Are the Venky's opening a VenkyExpress in Portugal?Players can come from any part of the world to play with the Clubs, Fans just enjoy the games and comment, Kean is a forever manager for BRFC, he love portugal and he speaks too.............so enjoy
Coyb
gleechy
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4:31pm Tue 17 Jul 12
lusorover wrote:I think you'll find sheep follow without question, now look in the mirror and say baaa.
RUinsane wrote:Excellent post.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Well said.
Let the sheep stay away.
gleechy
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4:37pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MxMave wrote:Maybe that's why we're doing so crap, he adopts the Portugese tactics ie send your worst players first to a penalty shoot out and loose.
Kean speaks Portugese.
All these portugese players are creating a barrier around him.
gleechy
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4:39pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Are you a jack russell with a speach translator?
thresholdweller wrote:I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?
gleechy
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4:42pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:You're definately a Jack Russell with a speach translator
A Darener wrote:Players can come from any part of the world to play with the Clubs, Fans just enjoy the games and comment, Kean is a forever manager for BRFC, he love portugal and he speaks too.............so enjoy
Are the Venky's opening a VenkyExpress in Portugal?
Irish knowledge
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5:02pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Jack Herer
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5:56pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
Jack Herer
says...
6:10pm Tue 17 Jul 12
gleechy wrote:V v funny.
MatthewCA wrote:Are you a jack russell with a speach translator?
thresholdweller wrote:I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?
Dan11
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6:18pm Tue 17 Jul 12
garyintandem wrote:That would require Kean to understand the fundamentals of football, which is firstly to not concede and have tight defence and then go from there. He seems to think that defenders do not matter- very strange. I hope someone comes in for Robbo, his poor ability in the air and weakness for long range shots will be further exposed in the championship.
Kean, buy an experienced and proven defender .
Do not start the season with the words "we had to let Dann and Givet go for 8m as they didn't want to play for the club and we didn't have time to replace them so Danny Murphy and Gomes will start at the back"
Irish knowledge
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6:18pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Jack Herer wrote:It really doesnt make sense, I know. They should have sacked him many times last season and especially when we got relegated. That would have been the easiest time to do it. I really don't understand why he is still here but he is. I am hoping I can just catch the goals somehow on the web now and not have to listen to his post match interviews this season coming. If they sacked him, attendances would double that is for sure. He has had way to many chances and is a complete idiot. But maybe even if we only have 5k supporters in the ground with no boos, we can start forming a strong team spirit and playing some good football because we have good players, not because we have a good manager.
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
blueblooded
says...
6:22pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Lancs - pensioner
says...
6:27pm Tue 17 Jul 12
benal13 wrote:No he is 100% Dingle, ignore him
givet82 wrote:NO HES 100% BARMYMatthewCA wrote:to make as pride,surprice.Your 99% Indian im surethresholdweller wrote: I am getting concerned that we are using our limited budget to pay the wages of players who are not quite good enough, whether we are talking about talent, attitude, susceptibility to injury, age.... I would rather have a squad of 20 who are of a good enough standard, than 30 maybes. Finally where is that central defender we need?I agree, and this is the hole we need to fill, hope this will be a surprice before transfer window closes. hope for the best defender to make as pride.
givet82
says...
6:33pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Irish knowledge wrote:superb comment's!
Jack Herer wrote:It really doesnt make sense, I know. They should have sacked him many times last season and especially when we got relegated. That would have been the easiest time to do it. I really don't understand why he is still here but he is. I am hoping I can just catch the goals somehow on the web now and not have to listen to his post match interviews this season coming. If they sacked him, attendances would double that is for sure. He has had way to many chances and is a complete idiot. But maybe even if we only have 5k supporters in the ground with no boos, we can start forming a strong team spirit and playing some good football because we have good players, not because we have a good manager.
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
blueblooded
says...
6:43pm Tue 17 Jul 12
bring back the good old days
says...
6:51pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Irish knowledge wrote:Can't find a lot of fault with that.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
But, you start by saying Kean should have gone. However, he is not, and presumably influential in who is coming in.
I have a problem with this, as I am assuming you are still unhappy with him, but willing like myself, to let the first 5 - 10 results dictate his fate .
If he is to be sacked, the new manager has then to make a fist out of what has been purchased before him.
Like myself you wish the support not to chant at times that will distract the players, as that is only fair (especially on the new guys).
The fact still remains that the weak link in this promotion push is Kean. Unless, of course he demonstrates that he has actually now climbed the learning curve to now being an astute manager that is tactically aware.
blueblooded
says...
6:55pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Jack Herer
says...
7:14pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Irish knowledge wrote:Wow - only 5,000. We may get more going to some away matches. Imagine that!
Jack Herer wrote:It really doesnt make sense, I know. They should have sacked him many times last season and especially when we got relegated. That would have been the easiest time to do it. I really don't understand why he is still here but he is. I am hoping I can just catch the goals somehow on the web now and not have to listen to his post match interviews this season coming. If they sacked him, attendances would double that is for sure. He has had way to many chances and is a complete idiot. But maybe even if we only have 5k supporters in the ground with no boos, we can start forming a strong team spirit and playing some good football because we have good players, not because we have a good manager.
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
It's gonna look bad week in week out isn't it - there is simply no two ways about it. There's no way Steve Kean will be able to spin it. If he says the fans are staying away because of relegation then he will alienate those who are attending even more, because they personally know those fans staying away and they know it's because of Steve Kean. Everyone knows it. The whole town knows it.
What are our owners planning when they allow something so patently unpopular to our fans to continue? The really weird thing is that they are willing to spend the same money it would take to get rid of him on a new player.
Like I said earlier though, it's good to debate this now, but it makes no difference to what is going to happen. Those who are staying away have made up their minds, and those who are going to attend but still protest have made up their minds too. I'm only telling you the truth as it is
What will the viewing public think if they see continued protests against Steve Kean when the ground is so empty anyway? They'll realise that everyone, stay aways or attendees, they all want to see the back of our manager. But he's still there.
How is that ever good advertising for the Venkys?
blueblooded
says...
7:20pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Guzford
says...
7:28pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Jack Herer
says...
7:37pm Tue 17 Jul 12
blueblooded wrote:He's not, I'm telling you. He's signing a new contract for us in just another 24 hours. Our manager would never lie to us.
t'hoillett expected to sign for QPR tomorrow after agreeing and accepting terms. Looks like his wage demands are being met, good news for Rovers anyway.
blueblooded
says...
7:43pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Guzford wrote:thats not bad for the peanuts we would have got if he had gone to borussia.
£4mill for Hoillett agreed I have on good info......
what do you think of Dann going?
peely
says...
9:05pm Tue 17 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Speak feckin English !
A Darener wrote:Why this much negative thoughts, Kean is doing the best to rebuild his team for next season............co
Well if it is the fans fault we will be all right next season because the fans won't be there. Oops! forgot, but Kean will be, so no change there then!
mmon, get charged to support. If u consider new manager this going to be the same case...then what else FANS do. So is better to wait for the new buildup and encourage the team.
Bombay Duck Club
says...
9:13pm Tue 17 Jul 12
b@st@rd. What the bl@@dy he'll is that utterly useless faux journalist Andy Crier doing about this. Not reporting, that's for sure. KEAN OUT, VENKYS OUT, MAFIA OUT
wampam
says...
9:15pm Tue 17 Jul 12
then we can resume the fanbase and get things sorted. no more ewood till the evil git is gone. lookin forward to big support aWAY. KEANE OUT,OUT,OUT,OUT,OUT.
......PLEEEEESE
BlueSkies
says...
9:16pm Tue 17 Jul 12
blueblooded wrote:Wouldn't miss Dann at all.
Guzford wrote:thats not bad for the peanuts we would have got if he had gone to borussia.
£4mill for Hoillett agreed I have on good info......
what do you think of Dann going?
Replacement?
peely
says...
9:19pm Tue 17 Jul 12
gleechy
says...
9:19pm Tue 17 Jul 12
BlueSkies wrote:Could probably put a cone on the field, it's surprising how many forwards get caught out by those pointy things.
blueblooded wrote:Wouldn't miss Dann at all.
Guzford wrote:thats not bad for the peanuts we would have got if he had gone to borussia.
£4mill for Hoillett agreed I have on good info......
what do you think of Dann going?
Replacement?
BlueSkies
says...
9:29pm Tue 17 Jul 12
baldie
says...
9:33pm Tue 17 Jul 12
blueblooded wrote:Hope you mean for us.
QPR striker Jamie Mackie to sign for 3.5m.
Getting worried,Kean's doing something i would have done.
BlueSkies
says...
9:49pm Tue 17 Jul 12
peely wrote:Anchovies! He's addicted to 'em!
Why all of a sudden the rush to buy everything Portugese ? Me smells something fishy !,
baldie
says...
9:54pm Tue 17 Jul 12
DanBlackburn wrote:Last season,the only feedback the owners got was from Kean himself
RUinsane wrote:RU - do you really get what is going on? Your blind support for the cancerous regime currently festering in at ewood is nothing short of cowardice. Just like you i am a life longer and season ticket holder. I also probably travel further than you - 4 hours round trip.
A Darener wrote:No-one will ever stop me going to ewood. I have supported this club forever and that means supported it financially too. The only bomus this year is that most of the morons who booed their own team from the kick off will be sat at home booing at the TV. Superb. Just because of the onset of the internet which has spawned the internet warrior, the big talker with no action, and some on here have actually managed to LOG ON without any assistance, doesn't mean that I follow the self serving sheep. I make my own decisions in life and I always will. I support my team through thick and thin. So this is the thin, I've been here before.
Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting on whether a player is coming or not until the deal is finalised. Perhaps it would be better if we all stopped commenting full stop. After all there is nothing we can do about it..
The only action we can take is to stay away from Ewood Park and that isn't until next month. In the meanwhile we are all getting agitated and upset by all the rumours and nothing stories being bandied about.
Keanwill do his thing irrespective of whatever we sy. o I sa just let him get on with it. the proof of the pudding will b in the first game at Ipswich. Then we will see that nothing has changed and we will be in for another rough season, probably culmunating in another relegation. Then perhaps we will finally see the end of Kean, but I am not putting any money on that!
Ever heard the saying when the going gets tough, the tough stay at home and boo at the TV, thought not.
I will be there when all the stay aways are walking round Lidle looking for potatoes and peas while I'm cheering on the portugeezers.
Not renewing and only attending away fixtures is the brave thing to do. it upsets me when i think about it. Rovers are such a big part of me that not going to Ewood leaves me feeling bereft.
But this is the last thing I have. No-one is listening to our protests.
I have one question for you, that you must answer: when does it get bad enough for you to withdraw? If Fester takes us down to Division 1? Will you still be renewing when he is confirmed manager? What would it take? Some of us have reached our stomach churning limit already. I cannot stand the mere sight of his odious grinning smug face. He is laughing at YOU. UR Insane.
Got a feeling,the only thing that will save him this season are results.
French Rover
says...
10:36pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Jack Herer wrote:it wont be empty jack......it wont be full either but there will still be 15k plus on for the Hull game which is pretty decent considering everything that has happened.
Irish knowledge wrote:Wow - only 5,000. We may get more going to some away matches. Imagine that!
Jack Herer wrote:It really doesnt make sense, I know. They should have sacked him many times last season and especially when we got relegated. That would have been the easiest time to do it. I really don't understand why he is still here but he is. I am hoping I can just catch the goals somehow on the web now and not have to listen to his post match interviews this season coming. If they sacked him, attendances would double that is for sure. He has had way to many chances and is a complete idiot. But maybe even if we only have 5k supporters in the ground with no boos, we can start forming a strong team spirit and playing some good football because we have good players, not because we have a good manager.
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
It's gonna look bad week in week out isn't it - there is simply no two ways about it. There's no way Steve Kean will be able to spin it. If he says the fans are staying away because of relegation then he will alienate those who are attending even more, because they personally know those fans staying away and they know it's because of Steve Kean. Everyone knows it. The whole town knows it.
What are our owners planning when they allow something so patently unpopular to our fans to continue? The really weird thing is that they are willing to spend the same money it would take to get rid of him on a new player.
Like I said earlier though, it's good to debate this now, but it makes no difference to what is going to happen. Those who are staying away have made up their minds, and those who are going to attend but still protest have made up their minds too. I'm only telling you the truth as it is
What will the viewing public think if they see continued protests against Steve Kean when the ground is so empty anyway? They'll realise that everyone, stay aways or attendees, they all want to see the back of our manager. But he's still there.
How is that ever good advertising for the Venkys?
If Mrs Desai does step down from the Rovers board then that leaves Kean really out there on his own - and unless he wins every game then the Rao brothers will have him out of Ewood double-quick.
Then the 15k plus can get back to 20k plus and we can start to get our club back maybe?
P888HOW
says...
10:46pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Bombay Duck Club wrote:bombay duck Club, iI fully agree with you especially about the faux Andy Crier !!!
How in God's name can BRFC employ Colin Hendry with these McFarlanes allegations hanging over him? If these allegations are true then no organisation can be associated with Colin Hendry. If they are untrue the defamation against Hendry is so clearly documented that legal action should be taken and could be taken. The current situation of BRFC turning a blind eye to it is untenable. KEAN probably doesn't give a monkies; he is just a amoral, thick, Glasgow mafia
b@st@rd. What the bl@@dy he'll is that utterly useless faux journalist Andy Crier doing about this. Not reporting, that's for sure. KEAN OUT, VENKYS OUT, MAFIA OUT
Jack Herer
says...
11:37pm Tue 17 Jul 12
French Rover wrote:I think it's a wonderful thought but no way will it be 15k under the current cloud surely.
Jack Herer wrote:it wont be empty jack......it wont be full either but there will still be 15k plus on for the Hull game which is pretty decent considering everything that has happened.
Irish knowledge wrote:Wow - only 5,000. We may get more going to some away matches. Imagine that!
Jack Herer wrote:It really doesnt make sense, I know. They should have sacked him many times last season and especially when we got relegated. That would have been the easiest time to do it. I really don't understand why he is still here but he is. I am hoping I can just catch the goals somehow on the web now and not have to listen to his post match interviews this season coming. If they sacked him, attendances would double that is for sure. He has had way to many chances and is a complete idiot. But maybe even if we only have 5k supporters in the ground with no boos, we can start forming a strong team spirit and playing some good football because we have good players, not because we have a good manager.
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
It's gonna look bad week in week out isn't it - there is simply no two ways about it. There's no way Steve Kean will be able to spin it. If he says the fans are staying away because of relegation then he will alienate those who are attending even more, because they personally know those fans staying away and they know it's because of Steve Kean. Everyone knows it. The whole town knows it.
What are our owners planning when they allow something so patently unpopular to our fans to continue? The really weird thing is that they are willing to spend the same money it would take to get rid of him on a new player.
Like I said earlier though, it's good to debate this now, but it makes no difference to what is going to happen. Those who are staying away have made up their minds, and those who are going to attend but still protest have made up their minds too. I'm only telling you the truth as it is
What will the viewing public think if they see continued protests against Steve Kean when the ground is so empty anyway? They'll realise that everyone, stay aways or attendees, they all want to see the back of our manager. But he's still there.
How is that ever good advertising for the Venkys?
If Mrs Desai does step down from the Rovers board then that leaves Kean really out there on his own - and unless he wins every game then the Rao brothers will have him out of Ewood double-quick.
Then the 15k plus can get back to 20k plus and we can start to get our club back maybe?
The figure of 5k from these new posters is closer to the truth I feel. I thought Lancs Pensioner's 7.5k would be low, but I genuinely think now that the club already know the scale of the problem, and it's extremely serious and they now realise that it's not likely to change unless Kean goes.
We'll wait and see of course, but if a pro Venkys poster is saying 5k, then that could be the best indicator yet. That figure probably tallies with what everyone has been saying in the real world as well.
We can only see what happens a month tomorrow though. 5k or 15k?
Jack Herer
says...
11:41pm Tue 17 Jul 12
We have to wait an extra 4 days for one of those ever popular mid week games to see our home campaign kick off in Steve Kean style. That being an embarrassingly empty stadium.
petergray
says...
11:58pm Tue 17 Jul 12
Melblue
says...
12:03am Wed 18 Jul 12
rovers82 wrote:Reminds me of "As I were going I went. I met a bark and it dogged at me. I up with my kick and I clogged it...."
if we were as active as we are now 12 months ago, we won't end up losing the first 3 games now and we should be preparing the premiership as we always did.
Matt Newcastle
says...
12:04am Wed 18 Jul 12
BlueSkies wrote:Brilliant news if it's true
Lawyers for Big Sam file suit against Steve Kean and BRFC on July 12 at the High Court, according to court document........ via twitter
How could any TRUE Blackburn supporter ever follow such a disrespectful idiot in charge of our beloved club.
Moral integrity and fortitude sadly lacking in a he'll of a lot of posters on here
Roverthere
says...
4:56am Wed 18 Jul 12
Jack Herer wrote:Too many chances and he failed them all!
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
MatthewCA
says...
7:54am Wed 18 Jul 12
maltese blue n white wrote:Even In person I don't know KEAN, But I am a fan of this ground performance, Control, good with players, good team builder.............
MatthewCA wrote: Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.Reading your post leads me to the conclusion that you and Kean have a lot in common. You both are p*ssed and deluded...
..this u can see him in TV like a star. KEAN IN, Game ON.
RUinsane
says...
8:20am Wed 18 Jul 12
Roverthere wrote:Its okay Sassy, whilst you can stay at home bonged out of your skull case, most on here will be picking cushion covers and saying your arse doesn't look big in that. Me I'll be at ewood taking in my regular dose of the mighty blue and whites. Its sad that you and your like feel the need to desert your team in their hour of need. Sometimes i'm amazed we actually managed to win the war with the apathy and dummy spitters out there. I think you may have been carried along with all the bravado Jack as otherwise you seem quite sensible to me. Pity beacuse as rovers fans we need to stick together. Venkys are still at the helm even after the mountain of abuse they received, so that should show you they aint going nowhere no matter what you do. Ever heard of the saying don't cut off your nose to spite your face? Get back down ewood and enjoy thae weekend.
Jack Herer wrote:Too many chances and he failed them all!
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
BlueSkies
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8:40am Wed 18 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Dingle Doffler!
maltese blue n white wrote:Even In person I don't know KEAN, But I am a fan of this ground performance, Control, good with players, good team builder.............
MatthewCA wrote: Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.Reading your post leads me to the conclusion that you and Kean have a lot in common. You both are p*ssed and deluded...
..this u can see him in TV like a star. KEAN IN, Game ON.
French Rover
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9:11am Wed 18 Jul 12
Matt Newcastle wrote:Matt as far as I can see the only people on here that 'follow' Kean are Dingles or 'make believe' fans.
BlueSkies wrote:Brilliant news if it's true
Lawyers for Big Sam file suit against Steve Kean and BRFC on July 12 at the High Court, according to court document........ via twitter
How could any TRUE Blackburn supporter ever follow such a disrespectful idiot in charge of our beloved club.
Moral integrity and fortitude sadly lacking in a he'll of a lot of posters on here
Not one single Rovers fan wants Kean at Ewood.
Even if by some good fortune we started winning lots of games this season and got promoted again then it would count for nothing to Rovers fans as far as Kean is concerned. He has done too much harm already for him ever to be forgiven.
RUinsane
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9:25am Wed 18 Jul 12
French Rover wrote:Yep, totally agree, No-one wants kean at the club and just to spout this tomfudgery is sensationalising the whole issue. I will be taking my place at ewood to support the team on the grass for 90 minutes. The rest can go suck an egg, Except Hendry who is ace.
Matt Newcastle wrote:Matt as far as I can see the only people on here that 'follow' Kean are Dingles or 'make believe' fans.
BlueSkies wrote:Brilliant news if it's true
Lawyers for Big Sam file suit against Steve Kean and BRFC on July 12 at the High Court, according to court document........ via twitter
How could any TRUE Blackburn supporter ever follow such a disrespectful idiot in charge of our beloved club.
Moral integrity and fortitude sadly lacking in a he'll of a lot of posters on here
Not one single Rovers fan wants Kean at Ewood.
Even if by some good fortune we started winning lots of games this season and got promoted again then it would count for nothing to Rovers fans as far as Kean is concerned. He has done too much harm already for him ever to be forgiven.
bring back the good old days
says...
9:46am Wed 18 Jul 12
Jack Herer wrote:By and large the 'money' they are 'spending' is coming from player turnover (anyone of us could do that).
French Rover wrote:I think it's a wonderful thought but no way will it be 15k under the current cloud surely.
Jack Herer wrote:it wont be empty jack......it wont be full either but there will still be 15k plus on for the Hull game which is pretty decent considering everything that has happened.
Irish knowledge wrote:Wow - only 5,000. We may get more going to some away matches. Imagine that!
Jack Herer wrote:It really doesnt make sense, I know. They should have sacked him many times last season and especially when we got relegated. That would have been the easiest time to do it. I really don't understand why he is still here but he is. I am hoping I can just catch the goals somehow on the web now and not have to listen to his post match interviews this season coming. If they sacked him, attendances would double that is for sure. He has had way to many chances and is a complete idiot. But maybe even if we only have 5k supporters in the ground with no boos, we can start forming a strong team spirit and playing some good football because we have good players, not because we have a good manager.
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
It's gonna look bad week in week out isn't it - there is simply no two ways about it. There's no way Steve Kean will be able to spin it. If he says the fans are staying away because of relegation then he will alienate those who are attending even more, because they personally know those fans staying away and they know it's because of Steve Kean. Everyone knows it. The whole town knows it.
What are our owners planning when they allow something so patently unpopular to our fans to continue? The really weird thing is that they are willing to spend the same money it would take to get rid of him on a new player.
Like I said earlier though, it's good to debate this now, but it makes no difference to what is going to happen. Those who are staying away have made up their minds, and those who are going to attend but still protest have made up their minds too. I'm only telling you the truth as it is
What will the viewing public think if they see continued protests against Steve Kean when the ground is so empty anyway? They'll realise that everyone, stay aways or attendees, they all want to see the back of our manager. But he's still there.
How is that ever good advertising for the Venkys?
If Mrs Desai does step down from the Rovers board then that leaves Kean really out there on his own - and unless he wins every game then the Rao brothers will have him out of Ewood double-quick.
Then the 15k plus can get back to 20k plus and we can start to get our club back maybe?
The figure of 5k from these new posters is closer to the truth I feel. I thought Lancs Pensioner's 7.5k would be low, but I genuinely think now that the club already know the scale of the problem, and it's extremely serious and they now realise that it's not likely to change unless Kean goes.
We'll wait and see of course, but if a pro Venkys poster is saying 5k, then that could be the best indicator yet. That figure probably tallies with what everyone has been saying in the real world as well.
We can only see what happens a month tomorrow though. 5k or 15k?
Irrespective of whether Kean is retained or not, money is being pocketed from these 'turnovers', both in and out.
It matters not to the people involved where this leads us, because if, as, and when Kean is ditched the new man will then want to bring in his choice of players. Which means more ins and outs, and yet more money pocketed by individuals.
Its all about money.
Lancs - pensioner
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9:47am Wed 18 Jul 12
Jack Herer wrote:I think you will get the biggest gate at the first match, and I think that may break 10,000 but after that a couple of defeats which there surely will be with this clown in charge I think it will go back to my previous prediction of 7500 as an average, apart from the Dingle game I don't think we will see a 20,000 plus match all season, to much has gone on down there, sad very sad!
French Rover wrote:I think it's a wonderful thought but no way will it be 15k under the current cloud surely.
Jack Herer wrote:it wont be empty jack......it wont be full either but there will still be 15k plus on for the Hull game which is pretty decent considering everything that has happened.
Irish knowledge wrote:Wow - only 5,000. We may get more going to some away matches. Imagine that!
Jack Herer wrote:It really doesnt make sense, I know. They should have sacked him many times last season and especially when we got relegated. That would have been the easiest time to do it. I really don't understand why he is still here but he is. I am hoping I can just catch the goals somehow on the web now and not have to listen to his post match interviews this season coming. If they sacked him, attendances would double that is for sure. He has had way to many chances and is a complete idiot. But maybe even if we only have 5k supporters in the ground with no boos, we can start forming a strong team spirit and playing some good football because we have good players, not because we have a good manager.
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
It's gonna look bad week in week out isn't it - there is simply no two ways about it. There's no way Steve Kean will be able to spin it. If he says the fans are staying away because of relegation then he will alienate those who are attending even more, because they personally know those fans staying away and they know it's because of Steve Kean. Everyone knows it. The whole town knows it.
What are our owners planning when they allow something so patently unpopular to our fans to continue? The really weird thing is that they are willing to spend the same money it would take to get rid of him on a new player.
Like I said earlier though, it's good to debate this now, but it makes no difference to what is going to happen. Those who are staying away have made up their minds, and those who are going to attend but still protest have made up their minds too. I'm only telling you the truth as it is
What will the viewing public think if they see continued protests against Steve Kean when the ground is so empty anyway? They'll realise that everyone, stay aways or attendees, they all want to see the back of our manager. But he's still there.
How is that ever good advertising for the Venkys?
If Mrs Desai does step down from the Rovers board then that leaves Kean really out there on his own - and unless he wins every game then the Rao brothers will have him out of Ewood double-quick.
Then the 15k plus can get back to 20k plus and we can start to get our club back maybe?
The figure of 5k from these new posters is closer to the truth I feel. I thought Lancs Pensioner's 7.5k would be low, but I genuinely think now that the club already know the scale of the problem, and it's extremely serious and they now realise that it's not likely to change unless Kean goes.
We'll wait and see of course, but if a pro Venkys poster is saying 5k, then that could be the best indicator yet. That figure probably tallies with what everyone has been saying in the real world as well.
We can only see what happens a month tomorrow though. 5k or 15k?
maltese blue n white
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10:02am Wed 18 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:As I said.... P*ssed...
maltese blue n white wrote:Even In person I don't know KEAN, But I am a fan of this ground performance, Control, good with players, good team builder.............
MatthewCA wrote: Kean is a brave man, still his players supports him in a big way. This man is getting very popular with "KEAN OUT" message and every rovers game the TV viewers are increased. Now I am a Big fan of Blackburn rovers club and Kean. If he face such a big strom in the last season, The the Npower season will be a great HIT with a new team. I support Kean 100%. What ever the Sh*t people say, He is a real captain, where the players can believe. Why FANs are getting angry is still to think, because it is sports and all club fights to stay UP, no permanent enemy in this format of game. Venkey's got money,spend to develop players and staff members and blackburn show must go ON, Fan's enjoy the game with passion and pride. Hope for the quick return to Premier League.Reading your post leads me to the conclusion that you and Kean have a lot in common. You both are p*ssed and deluded...
..this u can see him in TV like a star. KEAN IN, Game ON.
accstan
says...
10:04am Wed 18 Jul 12
blueblooded
says...
10:14am Wed 18 Jul 12
A Darener
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10:32am Wed 18 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:Have you heard the one......a fool and his money are soon parted?
Roverthere wrote:Its okay Sassy, whilst you can stay at home bonged out of your skull case, most on here will be picking cushion covers and saying your arse doesn't look big in that. Me I'll be at ewood taking in my regular dose of the mighty blue and whites. Its sad that you and your like feel the need to desert your team in their hour of need. Sometimes i'm amazed we actually managed to win the war with the apathy and dummy spitters out there. I think you may have been carried along with all the bravado Jack as otherwise you seem quite sensible to me. Pity beacuse as rovers fans we need to stick together. Venkys are still at the helm even after the mountain of abuse they received, so that should show you they aint going nowhere no matter what you do. Ever heard of the saying don't cut off your nose to spite your face? Get back down ewood and enjoy thae weekend.
Jack Herer wrote:Too many chances and he failed them all!
Irish knowledge wrote:Oh look - another brand new poster asking everyone to back the regime.
Hello, I read all the comments on here everyday but rarely post. However I've decided to take some time out today to add to the debate.
Last season was a total joke. Kean should have been fired and everyone knows that. He lied consistently and treated the supporters like enemies. He stood up for Venkys when he should not have had to and had to answer questions which managers should not be getting involved in.
However, Venkys have at least put a backroom team in place now. Admittedly I do not know anything about them, but at least we have some sort of structure to manage the side of the business that Kean should never have been involved in.
Also I have been impressed with the Danny Murphy signing and am unconvinced about the other signings thus far. Time will tell. But thats what makes the start of every season exciting, did we sign a dud or gem. Every team mostly signs duds.
A lot of people are saying that we should be spending all the money that we received from transfers and that Venkys are pocketing it. Do fans want the club to go bust? I know we have parachute money, but what happens if spend a load of money on players who turn out to be flops. Venkys are right not to blow the money on players who are not good enough for the premiership (if they were, they would not be going to a championship team). We also need to reduce our wage bill now that we don't have the TV money and I would have no problem whatsoever in selling Robinson (Bunn and Kean perfect replacement), Nzonzi (over rated, not a winner of a player, just moans on the field), Hoilett (quality but out of contract so no choice, hope he joins english club so Rovers get the money), Pedersen (not up to it and on high wages) Formica (v average player IMO, does not get involved), Martin Olsson (wants to leave so let him go) We need to cut our wage bill to survive if that is what fans want. We also got some quality youth players who deserve a chance. Would some fans prefer a situation where we spent fortune, paid high wages, missed promotion and went in to administration just so they could say...I told you so! A big part of everyones lives would then be missing.
Our squad for the championship should be:
GK Bunn/Kean
RB Orr/Lowe
CB Dann/Givet/Hanley/Ja
ck O'Connell
LB Henley/Josh Morris
RM Vuckevic (other youth team suggestion?)
CM Murphy/Petrovic/Silv
a/Lowe/J O Sullivan(or other youth player
LM M Olsson/Nunes
Striker Rochina (our best player imo, needs to play up front)/Goodwillie (should do good in championship)/Nuno Gomes (the sheringham/hughesie player)/Leon Best
So if we get silva and maybe a right winger, we should be strong.
For all the booers, I booed at my tv while watching at 8am on a sat morning in Canada. But this season, please just don't go to the matches if you are going to boo. If after 7/8 games we are struggling, then go ahead. But for all the new players joining, it is embarrassing and detrimental to a strong team spirit needed to get out of this division. I for one am looking forward to following the team, be it that it will be hard to see all the goals now.
Sorry mate, this has happened too many times for people to think you are genuine.
The truth of the matter is this; it doesn't matter what you say, or I say, or Santa Claus says, the fans aren't coming back whilst Steve Kean is there. Some feel so strongly about it - they love their Rovers so much, and they want it back, and they want to go to the match - that huge amounts of fans, hardcore fans, are willing to carry on showing their vocal displeasure with him on match days as well.
I don't think there will be many fans who don't join in with "Steve Kean out" chants. I'm guessing the players will get cheered, as is right, but our manager is looking at a season of serious boos.
The club needs to face reality on this situation, rather than vainly posting on sites like this. The fans have made up their minds. This is football. Every other club in the world understands that. Our club knew that obviously when it was under the masterful steering of John Williams and before that the amazing generosity of Jack Walker. We are the only club in the world that doesn't understand that any more though.
So we instead get new posters telling us we need to give Steve Kean another chance. You are wasting your time though - nothing will change unless he goes. End of debate and that's just the cold hard truth.
Why would the owners not do the obvious therefore and get the fans flooding back? It just doesn't make any sense. Stupidity only washes so long as an excuse.
UKdarran
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10:44am Wed 18 Jul 12
blueblooded wrote:Pity, I think he's decent.
Gosling dismisses interest in Blackburn move
Incidentally, do you know if Steven N’Zonzi has handed in a transfer request?
Cumbrian Blue
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10:57am Wed 18 Jul 12
buzzinfly wrote:Is that the same game Souness and Ternant played in 2001 then?
Whilst in Portugal earlier in the season Messrs. Kean may have been lured by the offer of a free case of wine to attend a Kentaro Time Share seminar. After getting p##sed during the seminar they must have signed up ,only to discover that hidden in the terms was the clause of having to sign Kentaro agents Portuguse players.! Doh!! that pesky small print.
Ive got a fun game for you Steve, whilst you being driven around, look at the back of the cars and read the names. If you see a Landrover, it may have the word DEFENDER written on it. Write that word down and when your back at the club ask someone , the cleaner maybe,(if there still is one employed after you relegated the club) what a defender is in footballing terms!!!!!!
We may need one or two.
Just a thought.
Adeus.
Ferrari vs. Mini
Happier days....
MatthewCA
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2:13pm Wed 18 Jul 12
GK - Bunn / Jake Kean (Paul Robinson - Not confirmed)
DF - Givet,Adam Hanley,Josh Morris,Grant Hanley,Orr
(M.Olsson,S.Dunn -Not confirmed)
MF -Mrphy/Nunes/JasonLo
we/Olsson/Pedersen/F
ormica/DavidDunn/ Amine Linganzi, (Vukcevic/Petrovic/Z
onzi - Not Confirmed)
FW -Leon Best,Rochina,Nuno Gomes,Nick Blackman
(Holliet,Goodwillie - Not Confirmed)
KEAN IN, GAME ON
Backup on striker and defenders are missing in the team, Kean is very bad on substitution at the correct time, We see the previous season how pathatic it was to get a FIT player tothe important games.
blueblooded
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2:35pm Wed 18 Jul 12
MatthewCA
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2:45pm Wed 18 Jul 12
blueblooded wrote:Why, Paul Robinson want to leave rovers ???
Blackburn Rovers have entered the race for Watford Goalkeeper Scott Loach, according to Sky Sports News.
100%ROVERS
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6:29pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Big Sam is sueing KEAN and BRFC.
I applaud hs actions. Whilst I love my club to bits, it is the owners who will suffer in the event of any guilty verdict :
- BAD PR for Venkys
- FINANCIAL PENALTY for Venkys
- FA INVESTIGATION as not fit to own the club..
Similarly go get KEAN for every penny you can Sam .. He's a convicted DRUNK DRIVER .. Bare faced LIAR .. SHAMEFUL ACUSER of you & the BRFC fans .. :
- I hope he loses his FA badges
- I hope he loses his job
- I hope he loses his house
- I hope he never works again
GOOD LUCK SAM ..
ALL THE LOYAL ROVERS FANS ARE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR LEGAL ACTION !!!!!
A Darener
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6:50pm Wed 18 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:One reason only...Steve Kean!!
blueblooded wrote:Why, Paul Robinson want to leave rovers ???
Blackburn Rovers have entered the race for Watford Goalkeeper Scott Loach, according to Sky Sports News.
stefjam
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11:04pm Wed 18 Jul 12
100%ROVERS wrote:I can't understand why he has to go after the club, it was Kean who was filmed making the comments while in the pub!
GOOD LUCK SAM ALLARYCE !!!
Big Sam is sueing KEAN and BRFC.
I applaud hs actions. Whilst I love my club to bits, it is the owners who will suffer in the event of any guilty verdict :
- BAD PR for Venkys
- FINANCIAL PENALTY for Venkys
- FA INVESTIGATION as not fit to own the club..
Similarly go get KEAN for every penny you can Sam .. He's a convicted DRUNK DRIVER .. Bare faced LIAR .. SHAMEFUL ACUSER of you & the BRFC fans .. :
- I hope he loses his FA badges
- I hope he loses his job
- I hope he loses his house
- I hope he never works again
GOOD LUCK SAM ..
ALL THE LOYAL ROVERS FANS ARE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR LEGAL ACTION !!!!!
bring back the good old days
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7:47am Thu 19 Jul 12
stefjam wrote:I suspect it is because, 'under normal srvice' you would expect the club, the FA, the Managers Association to have 'reprimanded' him.
100%ROVERS wrote:I can't understand why he has to go after the club, it was Kean who was filmed making the comments while in the pub!
GOOD LUCK SAM ALLARYCE !!!
Big Sam is sueing KEAN and BRFC.
I applaud hs actions. Whilst I love my club to bits, it is the owners who will suffer in the event of any guilty verdict :
- BAD PR for Venkys
- FINANCIAL PENALTY for Venkys
- FA INVESTIGATION as not fit to own the club..
Similarly go get KEAN for every penny you can Sam .. He's a convicted DRUNK DRIVER .. Bare faced LIAR .. SHAMEFUL ACUSER of you & the BRFC fans .. :
- I hope he loses his FA badges
- I hope he loses his job
- I hope he loses his house
- I hope he never works again
GOOD LUCK SAM ..
ALL THE LOYAL ROVERS FANS ARE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR LEGAL ACTION !!!!!
First and foremost the club would have been expected to have acted, but as we all know Kean can do no wrong, whether it is drink driving, antagonising supporters, or relegating the club.
Maybe this is Sams way of 'challenging' this 'shield' that Kean has somehow constructed.
Roll on I say.
MatthewCA
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9:32am Thu 19 Jul 12
100%ROVERS wrote:Why Fans are going behaind Financials of Club owners........is a Legal thing, There is some thing to FIX, Lets club together and cheer for our team in the next season.
GOOD LUCK SAM ALLARYCE !!! Big Sam is sueing KEAN and BRFC. I applaud hs actions. Whilst I love my club to bits, it is the owners who will suffer in the event of any guilty verdict : - BAD PR for Venkys - FINANCIAL PENALTY for Venkys - FA INVESTIGATION as not fit to own the club.. Similarly go get KEAN for every penny you can Sam .. He's a convicted DRUNK DRIVER .. Bare faced LIAR .. SHAMEFUL ACUSER of you & the BRFC fans .. : - I hope he loses his FA badges - I hope he loses his job - I hope he loses his house - I hope he never works again GOOD LUCK SAM .. ALL THE LOYAL ROVERS FANS ARE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR LEGAL ACTION !!!!!
smellthecoffee
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9:52pm Sun 22 Jul 12
bring back the good old days wrote:YEP ROLL ON.....GET THE COLLECTIVE USELESS SCUM OUT OF OUR CLUB!!!!
stefjam wrote:I suspect it is because, 'under normal srvice' you would expect the club, the FA, the Managers Association to have 'reprimanded' him.
100%ROVERS wrote:I can't understand why he has to go after the club, it was Kean who was filmed making the comments while in the pub!
GOOD LUCK SAM ALLARYCE !!!
Big Sam is sueing KEAN and BRFC.
I applaud hs actions. Whilst I love my club to bits, it is the owners who will suffer in the event of any guilty verdict :
- BAD PR for Venkys
- FINANCIAL PENALTY for Venkys
- FA INVESTIGATION as not fit to own the club..
Similarly go get KEAN for every penny you can Sam .. He's a convicted DRUNK DRIVER .. Bare faced LIAR .. SHAMEFUL ACUSER of you & the BRFC fans .. :
- I hope he loses his FA badges
- I hope he loses his job
- I hope he loses his house
- I hope he never works again
GOOD LUCK SAM ..
ALL THE LOYAL ROVERS FANS ARE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR LEGAL ACTION !!!!!
First and foremost the club would have been expected to have acted, but as we all know Kean can do no wrong, whether it is drink driving, antagonising supporters, or relegating the club.
Maybe this is Sams way of 'challenging' this 'shield' that Kean has somehow constructed.
Roll on I say.
Roverthere
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6:54am Tue 24 Jul 12
MatthewCA wrote:Kean in = Rovers down. Kean in = Fans out!
Hi All, At the end who all are the players ready for boots in blackburn rovers next season. So we can dream of playing 11 for next match. Kean will be happy to close the window for further drop off/transfer calls.
GK - Bunn / Jake Kean (Paul Robinson - Not confirmed)
DF - Givet,Adam Hanley,Josh Morris,Grant Hanley,Orr
(M.Olsson,S.Dunn -Not confirmed)
MF -Mrphy/Nunes/JasonLo
we/Olsson/Pedersen/F
ormica/DavidDunn/ Amine Linganzi, (Vukcevic/Petrovic/Z
onzi - Not Confirmed)
FW -Leon Best,Rochina,Nuno Gomes,Nick Blackman
(Holliet,Goodwillie - Not Confirmed)
KEAN IN, GAME ON
Backup on striker and defenders are missing in the team, Kean is very bad on substitution at the correct time, We see the previous season how pathatic it was to get a FIT player tothe important games.

idlewally says...
7:58am Tue 17 Jul 12