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Kean: Hitmen are striking a winning chord
7:26am Monday 27th August 2012 in News
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
STEVE Kean believes Ruben Rochina has ‘match winning’ qualities but admits he is spoiled for choice with regards to competition for the second striker role.
Rovers’ forgotten Spaniard played a key role in Morten Gamst Pedersen’s late winner on Saturday, during a lively second half cameo, in his first appearance of the campaign.
Boss Kean revealed Rochina has missed the start of the season with a hamstring injury and, despite having spent most of his Ewood career on the flank, believes his best position is behind the striker.
Kean said: “Ruben was great. He had a 4cm tear in his hamstring so he wasn’t available for the first couple of games.
“I think he enjoys playing in that position. Sometimes when he plays wide and is asked to double up with the full back, that can be a bit difficult for him.
“He shows his awareness and can pick out a pass and set up a chance and he can win games for us certainly. If he gets a sight of goal, he can score as well.
“That is the position he would like to play but so would Gato, so would Nuno and so would Dunny.
“We have a lot of players who like to play in that position but it is making sure we get the players in the right positions to keep grinding out results.”
The Rovers boss also had words of praise for Pedersen after his sublime winner broke Leicester hearts.
The Norwegian’s Rovers future has been uncertain this summer, none more so than when global advisor Shebby Singh was accused of likening him to a pensioner.
Kean said: “He has played at the top level for so long. He is such a fit boy. You look at the stats and the amount of ground he covers, the way he is such a good professional.
“He is in early in the morning, works hard, he is a model pro and I can see him playing two, three or four years more.
“He has had lots of different opportunities to move on but it is eight years now he has been here, lots of chances for glamorous moves but wants to stay at the club and the fact he wants to finish his career here, there are not too many who want to do that.
“We have to take our hat off to him.”
Comments(96)
bypass06
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7:37am Mon 27 Aug 12
The Norwegian’s Rovers future has been uncertain this summer, none more so than when global advisor Shebby Singh was accused of likening him to a pensioner.
Kean said: “He has played at the top level for so long. He is such a fit boy. You look at the stats and the amount of ground he covers, the way he is such a good professional.
“He is in early in the morning, works hard, he is a model pro and I can see him playing two, three or four years more.
“He has had lots of different opportunities to move on but it is eight years now he has been here, lots of chances for glamorous moves but wants to stay at the club and the fact he wants to finish his career here, there are not too many who want to do that.
“We have to take our hat off to him.”
So tell us again, Why is he on the transfer list?
whappen
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7:59am Mon 27 Aug 12
bypass06 wrote:He's on too good a "pension".
The Rovers boss also had words of praise for Pedersen after his sublime winner broke Leicester hearts. The Norwegian’s Rovers future has been uncertain this summer, none more so than when global advisor Shebby Singh was accused of likening him to a pensioner. Kean said: “He has played at the top level for so long. He is such a fit boy. You look at the stats and the amount of ground he covers, the way he is such a good professional. “He is in early in the morning, works hard, he is a model pro and I can see him playing two, three or four years more. “He has had lots of different opportunities to move on but it is eight years now he has been here, lots of chances for glamorous moves but wants to stay at the club and the fact he wants to finish his career here, there are not too many who want to do that. “We have to take our hat off to him.” So tell us again, Why is he on the transfer list?
maradonner
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9:22am Mon 27 Aug 12
" an effing crook "
......." my drink was spiked "
Why listen to anything Steve Kean has to say? He is a proven liar.
Oh! And he knows nothing about football.
Worst 'manager' ever.
Venkys Blue And White Army.
jackmetickler
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9:49am Mon 27 Aug 12
maradonner wrote:"Venkys Blue and White Army"?????
Sam Allardyce is..... " an effing crook " ......." my drink was spiked " Why listen to anything Steve Kean has to say? He is a proven liar. Oh! And he knows nothing about football. Worst 'manager' ever. Venkys Blue And White Army.
Sorry if you are trying to be ironic and I did not get it but...
surely it under their cretinous guidance that we have found ourselves the worst run club in the league!
They are the ones that have hoisted Kean, Anderson and shabby upon us and they are the ones who in my opinion shoulder all the blame for the current mess!
They will never have any support from me ....... !!!
maradonner
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10:12am Mon 27 Aug 12
.........it's more than irony.
Of course 'they' are the ones to blame!
BRFC was described as.....
' English Football's most dysfunctional club '
......in a recent newspaper article.
That's some change in two years.
After years of being one of English Footballs best run clubs.
They are naive, useless and criminally negligent.
Venkys Blue And White Army.
Captain Dreckley
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10:23am Mon 27 Aug 12
Kean out now
dallydally
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10:43am Mon 27 Aug 12
merlinrabbit
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10:48am Mon 27 Aug 12
maradonner wrote:criminally negligent? I would say they are criminally competent. Done a right good job on us.
Jackmetickler.......
.........it's more than irony.
Of course 'they' are the ones to blame!
BRFC was described as.....
' English Football's most dysfunctional club '
......in a recent newspaper article.
That's some change in two years.
After years of being one of English Footballs best run clubs.
They are naive, useless and criminally negligent.
Venkys Blue And White Army.
maradonner
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10:59am Mon 27 Aug 12
Venkys Blue And White Army.
davemal
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11:01am Mon 27 Aug 12
maradonner
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11:06am Mon 27 Aug 12
Liar.
Venkys Blue And White Army.
Nuttall Street
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11:20am Mon 27 Aug 12
James.NoNayNever
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11:29am Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson
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11:45am Mon 27 Aug 12
It really is time to stop all this "Kean out" nonsense and get behind our team. And those staying away just because they don't like one man, good grief, how childish and fickle is that?
The club is bigger than any one man, one wonders if the stay away fans are really Rovers fans at all.
wampam
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11:55am Mon 27 Aug 12
bypass06
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11:56am Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson wrote:And one wonders what drugs you're on today.
The Kean bashers who hijack this website can bleat all they like but the table doesn't lie, we're on the up!
It really is time to stop all this "Kean out" nonsense and get behind our team. And those staying away just because they don't like one man, good grief, how childish and fickle is that?
The club is bigger than any one man, one wonders if the stay away fans are really Rovers fans at all.
doctor love
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11:59am Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson
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12:04pm Mon 27 Aug 12
whittleblue
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12:11pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob
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12:12pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson wrote:Get used to the new Ewood and enjoy, we are not coming back until Kean has gone
The Kean bashers who hijack this website can bleat all they like but the table doesn't lie, we're on the up!
It really is time to stop all this "Kean out" nonsense and get behind our team. And those staying away just because they don't like one man, good grief, how childish and fickle is that?
The club is bigger than any one man, one wonders if the stay away fans are really Rovers fans at all.
Stu Wilson
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12:18pm Mon 27 Aug 12
mstanden
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12:20pm Mon 27 Aug 12
“(Blackburn) were under pressure with the fans always on their manager’s back and that was our game-plan, to get the fans on their backs. That was working until they scored.
“It was a sucker-punch because we were dominating the game. We did so from start to finish and they had two shots, one in both halves, and they got two goals. It is disappointing but we have to take the positives into the next performance.
“We are all behind the gaffer, we all want to do well and get into the Premier League. It will be tough in this league.”
hasslem hasslem
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12:34pm Mon 27 Aug 12
londonrover
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12:46pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob
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12:55pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson wrote:Good for you Stu , hope it makes you feel really good.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
Enjoy the easy parking and no queues for a pie, oh and of course the lousy atmosphere and cr@p football.
hasslem hasslem
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1:30pm Mon 27 Aug 12
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
LittleRonnieHildersley
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1:31pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:8000 fans, through thick and thin, whoever owns or manages the club RTID those 8000 have to face the sh@t support chants. But the really sh@t supporters/keyboard warriors are those sat in front of the telly.
Stu Wilson wrote:Good for you Stu , hope it makes you feel really good.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
Enjoy the easy parking and no queues for a pie, oh and of course the lousy atmosphere and cr@p football.
Kean out
bluerob
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1:37pm Mon 27 Aug 12
LittleRonnieHilderslI have better things to do than sit in front of the telly or go shopping.
ey wrote:
bluerob wrote:8000 fans, through thick and thin, whoever owns or manages the club RTID those 8000 have to face the sh@t support chants. But the really sh@t supporters/keyboard warriors are those sat in front of the telly.
Stu Wilson wrote:Good for you Stu , hope it makes you feel really good.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
Enjoy the easy parking and no queues for a pie, oh and of course the lousy atmosphere and cr@p football.
Kean out
We are not keyboard warriors, we are long loyal fans who are not prepared to further witness the destruction of BRFC
CARover
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1:45pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bypass06 wrote:Stu stands for Stupid!!
Stu Wilson wrote:And one wonders what drugs you're on today.
The Kean bashers who hijack this website can bleat all they like but the table doesn't lie, we're on the up!
It really is time to stop all this "Kean out" nonsense and get behind our team. And those staying away just because they don't like one man, good grief, how childish and fickle is that?
The club is bigger than any one man, one wonders if the stay away fans are really Rovers fans at all.
LittleRonnieHildersley
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1:47pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:Good for you! But don't have a go at those who are turning up to support the lads who pull on the blue and white. Like I said, as far as I'm concerned the stay always are sh@t support, but each to their own.
LittleRonnieHilderslI have better things to do than sit in front of the telly or go shopping.
ey wrote:
bluerob wrote:8000 fans, through thick and thin, whoever owns or manages the club RTID those 8000 have to face the sh@t support chants. But the really sh@t supporters/keyboard warriors are those sat in front of the telly.
Stu Wilson wrote:Good for you Stu , hope it makes you feel really good.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
Enjoy the easy parking and no queues for a pie, oh and of course the lousy atmosphere and cr@p football.
Kean out
We are not keyboard warriors, we are long loyal fans who are not prepared to further witness the destruction of BRFC
Kean out
buzzinfly
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1:57pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Gaz M
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2:24pm Mon 27 Aug 12
dangerous dave
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2:35pm Mon 27 Aug 12
hitmen men striking winning accord - how many scored!!
good across the back
winning whilst playing bad makes us a good team
few teams will take a point from Ipswich - Blackpool 6 Ipswwich 0
and on and on what a plank!!!!
Watching from the armchair/reading reports is were I like thousands of others will stay until Kean is removed - worst home gates for a long long time and we should continue to hit the Venkys in the pocket were it
hurts!!
As fo rMr Shabby and his comments about Mort and Kean for putting him on the transfer list what can they say now - Murphy has produced nothing to convince me of his abilities other than taking a big pay packet home. The defence is all over the place (even with Hendry's so called coaching skills) and as for the attack mainly non existant and very lucky for us to be in the position we are - Leeds this weekend which is going to be interesting!!!
No unlike others who want to give their hard earned cash to these wasters (their choice) I will like thousandsa of other stay away from Ewood until this idiot Kean is removed - an absolute embarrassment to the club in every respect!!
OUT WITH KEAN AGNEW VENKYS SINGH HENDRY
PK1875
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2:38pm Mon 27 Aug 12
If not then you are now being fickle, if you did well words deceive me
PK1875
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2:38pm Mon 27 Aug 12
If not then you are now being fickle, if you did well words deceive me
OnePostThenTheOther
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2:41pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Rochina and Pederson create the winning goal yet one can't get a game and the other is a transfer-listed pensioner, whom he describes as a "boy".
Road Runner Road Runner
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2:50pm Mon 27 Aug 12
That I opt to stay away from Ewood at this time, but will travel to the away games so I can watch our B&W hero's does not make me any less a supporter than those that choose to attend at this time.
What is important in all of this (IMO) is that the good folk don't allow for this situation to become a 'cut your nose to spite your face' in relation in returning for is not that the odious one as said:
"Nothing but success will suffice' ?
On that basis we would return to that which was in place prior to the takeover rather than this destruction element over these last 2 years ?
The stance being taken by a good majority of folk in abstaining is justified, and I believe is a important element in showing these people that BRFC matters on a much broader scale than they possibly thought.
Nobody should underestimate the depth of feeling aligned to BRFC whether that is those that choose to stay away or attend, but in the end we all want the same thing for BRFC -
Stability, reconciliation and best of all that chuffing Ewood park roar that I've witnessed on many, many occasions down the years.
My demands are high for BRFC via it's incumbents and I don't expect to win all of the time, but to witness my B&W shirt competing on a level playing field that this club, through it's history as achieved, and appreciates the solid support that our club is built upon.
Much to do as yet for me in putting these conditions back in place, but when I see this back I will support it. No supporter should except less.
Thus far the odious one is proving me incorrect as to my misgivings, but a long way to go before reconciliation if ever that occurs ?
For the greater good of BRFC I would and will put aside my grievances when the time is right even if the odious one remains ?
It would be triumphal for all concerned if and when BRFC exit this dark period that as engulfed our club.
That is my wish.
Just a thought on this pissy wet Bank Holiday folk's :)
Arte et labore
bluerob
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2:51pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Gaz M wrote:Well said, couldn't have put it any better
Little ronnie its the supporters who go down to the match and then come on here mouthing off at the fans who also went but chanted Kean out and the fans who have decided to boycott the games that get up my nose we are all Rovers fans you wish to go down and cheer them on it seems no matter how indifferent the display other are not as easily pleased so stop bad mouthing the stay aways off It seems you are happy enough but the gate of around 13,000 proves many are not.
bluerob
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2:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Excellent post, but for me no return is possible until Kean has gone.
Ardent, passionate, loyal and fervent I am for BRFC for nigh on 40 years through thick and thin, but these are unprecedented times for BRFC.
That I opt to stay away from Ewood at this time, but will travel to the away games so I can watch our B&W hero's does not make me any less a supporter than those that choose to attend at this time.
What is important in all of this (IMO) is that the good folk don't allow for this situation to become a 'cut your nose to spite your face' in relation in returning for is not that the odious one as said:
"Nothing but success will suffice' ?
On that basis we would return to that which was in place prior to the takeover rather than this destruction element over these last 2 years ?
The stance being taken by a good majority of folk in abstaining is justified, and I believe is a important element in showing these people that BRFC matters on a much broader scale than they possibly thought.
Nobody should underestimate the depth of feeling aligned to BRFC whether that is those that choose to stay away or attend, but in the end we all want the same thing for BRFC -
Stability, reconciliation and best of all that chuffing Ewood park roar that I've witnessed on many, many occasions down the years.
My demands are high for BRFC via it's incumbents and I don't expect to win all of the time, but to witness my B&W shirt competing on a level playing field that this club, through it's history as achieved, and appreciates the solid support that our club is built upon.
Much to do as yet for me in putting these conditions back in place, but when I see this back I will support it. No supporter should except less.
Thus far the odious one is proving me incorrect as to my misgivings, but a long way to go before reconciliation if ever that occurs ?
For the greater good of BRFC I would and will put aside my grievances when the time is right even if the odious one remains ?
It would be triumphal for all concerned if and when BRFC exit this dark period that as engulfed our club.
That is my wish.
Just a thought on this pissy wet Bank Holiday folk's :)
Arte et labore
Just looking at him on the touchline makes me feel sick, and his propaganda is laughable. I can NEVER trust or support this man again.
LittleRonnieHildersley
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3:03pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:When did I say I was happy with the situation? And generally those not boycotting get stick on these pages, do am happy to give some back to the 10000 sheep who stay away with arguments as deluded as keans comments.
Gaz M wrote:Well said, couldn't have put it any better
Little ronnie its the supporters who go down to the match and then come on here mouthing off at the fans who also went but chanted Kean out and the fans who have decided to boycott the games that get up my nose we are all Rovers fans you wish to go down and cheer them on it seems no matter how indifferent the display other are not as easily pleased so stop bad mouthing the stay aways off It seems you are happy enough but the gate of around 13,000 proves many are not.
bluerob
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3:10pm Mon 27 Aug 12
LittleRonnieHilderslThe fact that you attend makes you one of Mr Keans famous stats.
ey wrote:
bluerob wrote:When did I say I was happy with the situation? And generally those not boycotting get stick on these pages, do am happy to give some back to the 10000 sheep who stay away with arguments as deluded as keans comments.
Gaz M wrote:Well said, couldn't have put it any better
Little ronnie its the supporters who go down to the match and then come on here mouthing off at the fans who also went but chanted Kean out and the fans who have decided to boycott the games that get up my nose we are all Rovers fans you wish to go down and cheer them on it seems no matter how indifferent the display other are not as easily pleased so stop bad mouthing the stay aways off It seems you are happy enough but the gate of around 13,000 proves many are not.
He will use you to show the owners that 8000 fans are happy with him and the rest will come back when we are winning.
Of course the 10,000 are not for turning
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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3:12pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson wrote:Stu wilson - another good old Lancashire name that has just appeared on here from let me think............ - Nowhere.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
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Well John Lennon was right about Keanocchio - he's a Real Nowhere man!
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Kean will let us down and we ALL know it.
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34th.......
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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3:16pm Mon 27 Aug 12
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Just because we fluked 7 points when we deserved 1 or 2 does not mean things have changed as there are 43 games to go. It just shows how deluded and short term some people can be in their thinking and how the PR of Venkys and Agnew is in full flow at any little scrap they can hang on to.
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34th.......
Road Runner Road Runner
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3:19pm Mon 27 Aug 12
He, or this situation these last 2 years have absolutely battered me on all fronts, but I have to at some point return to Ewood(or not) ?
By definition support is going to be given to the odious one when we attend even though we do not want him as manager, but I am going to have to live with that at some point or I'm going to miss out on something that is to short by far ? Only time will reveal when I go back, but I want it to happen as I stated above ?
It won't be easy mate, but BRFC are the most important thing at the end of the day as is proven on these boards everyday by my fellow supporters.
Warts and all I know my supporters of BRFC and we are the Blackburn Rovers we are supreme -
Let these incumbents understand that and return us to the BRFC we know and love.
It's easy.
Arte et labore
Wild Rover
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3:27pm Mon 27 Aug 12
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
RUinsane
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3:29pm Mon 27 Aug 12
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:Hello, have you recovered from banging your head yesterday? I'm glad you're feeling better.
"Spoiled for choice" but looking to secure Lambert, Young, Rhodes and/or Whickham. Meanwhile our defence is being marshalled by Backpass Dann.
Rochina and Pederson create the winning goal yet one can't get a game and the other is a transfer-listed pensioner, whom he describes as a "boy".
The strange thing about Keanohios comments is he says Rochina was injured with a 4cm tear, Yet Rochina himself said, on twitter, he was 100% fit and" bean head ",had decided he was not in the squad. Now taking recent history into account i.e. the miracle recovery of nelsen who was near death. We can conclude that Kean is lying again and is in fact an utter twonk with no clue as to what he is doing.
Yours truly
one of the 8000
buzzinfly
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3:33pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson wrote:Lend me your eyes, I can change what you see.
The Kean bashers who hijack this website can bleat all they like but the table doesn't lie, we're on the up!
It really is time to stop all this "Kean out" nonsense and get behind our team. And those staying away just because they don't like one man, good grief, how childish and fickle is that?
The club is bigger than any one man, one wonders if the stay away fans are really Rovers fans at all.
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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3:35pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Wild Rover wrote:Wild Dingle - I think you have now targeted every Rovers fan on here who hates Kean - i.e. 99%.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
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I hope whatever Agnew is paying you (and what sort of boss drags you into the office on a bank holiday!) is worth those minus 4,000 thumbs to date!
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Be careful or Agnew will give you a name change when you have lost any remaining credibility. You are the original SB.
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34th.....
bluerob
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3:49pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:I understand your comments, BRFC has been a major part of my life since I first went to a game 47 yrs ago.
I know BlueBob and trusting this guy again will, if ever, come easy.
He, or this situation these last 2 years have absolutely battered me on all fronts, but I have to at some point return to Ewood(or not) ?
By definition support is going to be given to the odious one when we attend even though we do not want him as manager, but I am going to have to live with that at some point or I'm going to miss out on something that is to short by far ? Only time will reveal when I go back, but I want it to happen as I stated above ?
It won't be easy mate, but BRFC are the most important thing at the end of the day as is proven on these boards everyday by my fellow supporters.
Warts and all I know my supporters of BRFC and we are the Blackburn Rovers we are supreme -
Let these incumbents understand that and return us to the BRFC we know and love.
It's easy.
Arte et labore
I have had a season ticket for 25 yrs and had one of the best seats in Ewood that took me years to get ( I have lost it now ).
We will all make our own decisions , mine is already made as events of the last 18 months cant be put aside, in fact they are quite unbelievable. I dont even get upset when I get ribbed regularly by Burnley supporters.
My commitment and passion for BRFC in the long term remains, I will be back when I feel its my club again, but I know right now I cant attend until the current manager has gone, I can take no more from him.
baz58
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3:56pm Mon 27 Aug 12
baldie
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3:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:Is it so difficult to make a point without having to have a go at others in the process?
The only HITMAN we are interested in is the one with Kean's name on the bullet.
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Just because we fluked 7 points when we deserved 1 or 2 does not mean things have changed as there are 43 games to go. It just shows how deluded and short term some people can be in their thinking and how the PR of Venkys and Agnew is in full flow at any little scrap they can hang on to.
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34th.......
LittleRonnieHildersley
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4:05pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:Que? That doesn't really make any sense.
LittleRonnieHilderslThe fact that you attend makes you one of Mr Keans famous stats.
ey wrote:
bluerob wrote:When did I say I was happy with the situation? And generally those not boycotting get stick on these pages, do am happy to give some back to the 10000 sheep who stay away with arguments as deluded as keans comments.
Gaz M wrote:Well said, couldn't have put it any better
Little ronnie its the supporters who go down to the match and then come on here mouthing off at the fans who also went but chanted Kean out and the fans who have decided to boycott the games that get up my nose we are all Rovers fans you wish to go down and cheer them on it seems no matter how indifferent the display other are not as easily pleased so stop bad mouthing the stay aways off It seems you are happy enough but the gate of around 13,000 proves many are not.
He will use you to show the owners that 8000 fans are happy with him and the rest will come back when we are winning.
Of course the 10,000 are not for turning
bluerob
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4:19pm Mon 27 Aug 12
OnePostThenTheOther
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4:21pm Mon 27 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:Have you been busy disparaging disabled people again today URInsane, or making your plans to travel down to MK to continue your work as part of Kean's human shield with the Derby d'heads?
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:Hello, have you recovered from banging your head yesterday? I'm glad you're feeling better.
"Spoiled for choice" but looking to secure Lambert, Young, Rhodes and/or Whickham. Meanwhile our defence is being marshalled by Backpass Dann.
Rochina and Pederson create the winning goal yet one can't get a game and the other is a transfer-listed pensioner, whom he describes as a "boy".
The strange thing about Keanohios comments is he says Rochina was injured with a 4cm tear, Yet Rochina himself said, on twitter, he was 100% fit and" bean head ",had decided he was not in the squad. Now taking recent history into account i.e. the miracle recovery of nelsen who was near death. We can conclude that Kean is lying again and is in fact an utter twonk with no clue as to what he is doing.
Yours truly
one of the 8000
Wild Rover
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4:26pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:What is an SB little man ? Do tell
Wild Rover wrote:Wild Dingle - I think you have now targeted every Rovers fan on here who hates Kean - i.e. 99%.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
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I hope whatever Agnew is paying you (and what sort of boss drags you into the office on a bank holiday!) is worth those minus 4,000 thumbs to date!
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Be careful or Agnew will give you a name change when you have lost any remaining credibility. You are the original SB.
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34th.....
I am no Dingle as you well know from your days of calling me aSam luvvie. Y9u know when I. stuck up for him against no mark haters like you.
Twas your campaign against Sam Hoofy that got us Kean lest you forget
Remember you said Kean and Venkys would lead us to the promised land
Oh and. I am not in the office, i am on boat and moored up till the weather clears. Hence any typos as we are rocking abit
And I do this of. My own free will
Any more points you want to raise? Morst........The Dingle...?
Wild Rover
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4:26pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:What is an SB little man ? Do tell
Wild Rover wrote:Wild Dingle - I think you have now targeted every Rovers fan on here who hates Kean - i.e. 99%.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
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I hope whatever Agnew is paying you (and what sort of boss drags you into the office on a bank holiday!) is worth those minus 4,000 thumbs to date!
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Be careful or Agnew will give you a name change when you have lost any remaining credibility. You are the original SB.
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34th.....
I am no Dingle as you well know from your days of calling me aSam luvvie. Y9u know when I. stuck up for him against no mark haters like you.
Twas your campaign against Sam Hoofy that got us Kean lest you forget
Remember you said Kean and Venkys would lead us to the promised land
Oh and. I am not in the office, i am on boat and moored up till the weather clears. Hence any typos as we are rocking abit
And I do this of. My own free will
Any more points you want to raise? Morst........The Dingle...?
whappen
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4:30pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Wild Rover wrote:I haven't read the Times one so can't comment on its accuracy or balance.
hasslem hasslem wrote: excellent well balanced article in saturday's times headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only. however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
I do know however Jeremy Alexander's article in the Grauniad was neither - d'you think it was? From the comments in the Grauniad, you're in a pretty small minority if you did.
Chri$t, there were even Burnley fans calling it unbelievable rubbish.
A difference of opinion is not the same as the difference between fact and fiction.
whappen
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4:37pm Mon 27 Aug 12
LittleRonnieHilderslWhat doesn't?
ey wrote:
bluerob wrote:Que? That doesn't really make any sense.LittleRonnieHildersl ey wrote:The fact that you attend makes you one of Mr Keans famous stats. He will use you to show the owners that 8000 fans are happy with him and the rest will come back when we are winning. Of course the 10,000 are not for turningbluerob wrote:When did I say I was happy with the situation? And generally those not boycotting get stick on these pages, do am happy to give some back to the 10000 sheep who stay away with arguments as deluded as keans comments.Gaz M wrote: Little ronnie its the supporters who go down to the match and then come on here mouthing off at the fans who also went but chanted Kean out and the fans who have decided to boycott the games that get up my nose we are all Rovers fans you wish to go down and cheer them on it seems no matter how indifferent the display other are not as easily pleased so stop bad mouthing the stay aways off It seems you are happy enough but the gate of around 13,000 proves many are not.Well said, couldn't have put it any better
Wild Rover
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4:49pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:While we are at it, whats with the WE, sorry borrowed your caps lock then
Stu Wilson wrote:Stu wilson - another good old Lancashire name that has just appeared on here from let me think............ - Nowhere.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
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Well John Lennon was right about Keanocchio - he's a Real Nowhere man!
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Kean will let us down and we ALL know it.
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34th.......
Since when were you part of our club, you are just a stone throwing Dingle anyway
You dont go remember not under Kean, Allardyce, Ince by your own words and I think you boycotted Hughsie because tickets were too expensive.
Morst Man of the People, roflmao, to use the modern term.
Sad little man, you think I care about thumbs? My opinions are just that and mine alone, not influenced by anyone else.
Just a dyed in the wool Rover, through thick and thin
Btw to quote YOU , the table does not lie so at the moment, in the short twrm, we are winning...ahh but that is what is upsetting you now, I see it all..duhhh
LittleRonnieHildersley
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4:50pm Mon 27 Aug 12
whappen wrote:Your statement is an oxymoron, that's what doesn't make sense! And you quote Thatcher.....not fur turning! Whilst desperately clinging to an untenable position, genius logic!
LittleRonnieHilderslWhat doesn't?
ey wrote:
bluerob wrote:Que? That doesn't really make any sense.LittleRonnieHildersl ey wrote:The fact that you attend makes you one of Mr Keans famous stats. He will use you to show the owners that 8000 fans are happy with him and the rest will come back when we are winning. Of course the 10,000 are not for turningbluerob wrote:When did I say I was happy with the situation? And generally those not boycotting get stick on these pages, do am happy to give some back to the 10000 sheep who stay away with arguments as deluded as keans comments.Gaz M wrote: Little ronnie its the supporters who go down to the match and then come on here mouthing off at the fans who also went but chanted Kean out and the fans who have decided to boycott the games that get up my nose we are all Rovers fans you wish to go down and cheer them on it seems no matter how indifferent the display other are not as easily pleased so stop bad mouthing the stay aways off It seems you are happy enough but the gate of around 13,000 proves many are not.Well said, couldn't have put it any better
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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4:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Wild Rover wrote:Wild Dingle - man of the Thumbs Down record!
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:While we are at it, whats with the WE, sorry borrowed your caps lock then
Stu Wilson wrote:Stu wilson - another good old Lancashire name that has just appeared on here from let me think............ - Nowhere.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
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Well John Lennon was right about Keanocchio - he's a Real Nowhere man!
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Kean will let us down and we ALL know it.
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34th.......
Since when were you part of our club, you are just a stone throwing Dingle anyway
You dont go remember not under Kean, Allardyce, Ince by your own words and I think you boycotted Hughsie because tickets were too expensive.
Morst Man of the People, roflmao, to use the modern term.
Sad little man, you think I care about thumbs? My opinions are just that and mine alone, not influenced by anyone else.
Just a dyed in the wool Rover, through thick and thin
Btw to quote YOU , the table does not lie so at the moment, in the short twrm, we are winning...ahh but that is what is upsetting you now, I see it all..duhhh
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Is your tiny Dingle brain capable of understanding those thumbs - perhaps not as you have 6 fingers!
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34th.......
dallarover
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4:58pm Mon 27 Aug 12
mstanden wrote:This is very interesting. I am sure most sides coming to Ewood will be employing the same tactic and it should be something for everyone to note but especially the board. I think the season so far has shown we probably have the players to go up but there has to be a huge question mark over the management and tactics + there are just too many people who won't return to Ewood while Kean is still Manager regardless. The Club needs to be pragmatic and make the changes now rather than giving the team more obstacles to climb and putting up with below 15,000 attendances all season.
David Nugent's take on the game... “(Blackburn) were under pressure with the fans always on their manager’s back and that was our game-plan, to get the fans on their backs. That was working until they scored. “It was a sucker-punch because we were dominating the game. We did so from start to finish and they had two shots, one in both halves, and they got two goals. It is disappointing but we have to take the positives into the next performance. “We are all behind the gaffer, we all want to do well and get into the Premier League. It will be tough in this league.”
Wild Rover
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5:05pm Mon 27 Aug 12
whappen wrote:Tbh I have not read either , I dont pay much attetion to journos, politicians or double glazing salesmen. I can form my own opinions.
Wild Rover wrote:I haven't read the Times one so can't comment on its accuracy or balance.
hasslem hasslem wrote: excellent well balanced article in saturday's times headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only. however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
I do know however Jeremy Alexander's article in the Grauniad was neither - d'you think it was? From the comments in the Grauniad, you're in a pretty small minority if you did.
Chri$t, there were even Burnley fans calling it unbelievable rubbish.
A difference of opinion is not the same as the difference between fact and fiction.
I was just making the point that certain people / person on here are vey quick to highlight that which reinforces their preset view and then claim a balanced view?
Which is just as much BS as anything coming from SK..glasshouses?
Ask why the story of Big Sams wine stash has never been mentioned on these pages, by his detractors even though it is out there?
Because it dont fit the plan....?
Lancs - pensioner
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5:09pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson wrote:Another one who works in the ticket office!!!!
The Kean bashers who hijack this website can bleat all they like but the table doesn't lie, we're on the up! It really is time to stop all this "Kean out" nonsense and get behind our team. And those staying away just because they don't like one man, good grief, how childish and fickle is that? The club is bigger than any one man, one wonders if the stay away fans are really Rovers fans at all.
Either that or he is blind to what's gone on at BRFC for the last two years,
Two wins and he is happy!
Kean loves fans like you.
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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5:10pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Hughes - superb,
Ince - should have got Brendan Rogers.
Kean - should have replaced with Hughes, O'Neil, Laudrup, when available.
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What would they have done with a quality squad and some cash to spend? Whoops .... did Venkys spend any cash?
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Total heaven this weekend watching Swansea and Barca - remember when Rovers played pass and move?
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The brave 12,000 - continue the boycott - nothing has changed!
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34th....
Wild Rover
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5:13pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:Stop it now MortS, trying to convince our readers that i am a dingle, regular poster know better
Wild Rover wrote:Wild Dingle - man of the Thumbs Down record!
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:While we are at it, whats with the WE, sorry borrowed your caps lock then
Stu Wilson wrote:Stu wilson - another good old Lancashire name that has just appeared on here from let me think............ - Nowhere.
bluerob - Feel free to be an armchair critic. The real Rover fans will be cheering on our team.
.
Well John Lennon was right about Keanocchio - he's a Real Nowhere man!
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Kean will let us down and we ALL know it.
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34th.......
Since when were you part of our club, you are just a stone throwing Dingle anyway
You dont go remember not under Kean, Allardyce, Ince by your own words and I think you boycotted Hughsie because tickets were too expensive.
Morst Man of the People, roflmao, to use the modern term.
Sad little man, you think I care about thumbs? My opinions are just that and mine alone, not influenced by anyone else.
Just a dyed in the wool Rover, through thick and thin
Btw to quote YOU , the table does not lie so at the moment, in the short twrm, we are winning...ahh but that is what is upsetting you now, I see it all..duhhh
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Is your tiny Dingle brain capable of understanding those thumbs - perhaps not as you have 6 fingers!
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34th.......
Christ thos weather is bad, off to pump the bilges, not a euphemism!
They all know you are Dingle anyway
77'sss
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5:31pm Mon 27 Aug 12
A Darener
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5:50pm Mon 27 Aug 12
dallarover wrote:Let us hope then that all the away teams employ the same tactics and concentrate on upsetting the fans getting on the managers back. Whilst they do that the Rovers can concentrate on beating them, oblivious to the fans getting at Kean. Looks like it is working. More power to the fans!
mstanden wrote:This is very interesting. I am sure most sides coming to Ewood will be employing the same tactic and it should be something for everyone to note but especially the board. I think the season so far has shown we probably have the players to go up but there has to be a huge question mark over the management and tactics + there are just too many people who won't return to Ewood while Kean is still Manager regardless. The Club needs to be pragmatic and make the changes now rather than giving the team more obstacles to climb and putting up with below 15,000 attendances all season.
David Nugent's take on the game... “(Blackburn) were under pressure with the fans always on their manager’s back and that was our game-plan, to get the fans on their backs. That was working until they scored. “It was a sucker-punch because we were dominating the game. We did so from start to finish and they had two shots, one in both halves, and they got two goals. It is disappointing but we have to take the positives into the next performance. “We are all behind the gaffer, we all want to do well and get into the Premier League. It will be tough in this league.”
77'sss
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5:59pm Mon 27 Aug 12
So a miracle happens and you get rid of kean, and everyone goes back down to ewood. I don't think so
then you want shut of Agnew , Hendry, Shabby
No it's just not going to happen, Even if it did your talking months
the main reason nothing's gonna change is Venkys
They spent millions on buying a project ( BRFC ) that could be used as there global marketing flagship, watched by millions worldwide through the premier league, but as we all know it backfired
So they are stuck with us and like any business people, they are going to stick with us this season at least, because of 2 things
They get there money back through parachute payments and they can flog off players and who knows an automatic promotion or a play off at wembley and they get back there global band
So as you can see its a win win situation
wampam
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6:10pm Mon 27 Aug 12
oisy fans. keane out,up the rovers !
bluerob
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6:15pm Mon 27 Aug 12
LittleRonnieHilderslOxymoron, blimey your too smart for me.
ey wrote:
whappen wrote:Your statement is an oxymoron, that's what doesn't make sense! And you quote Thatcher.....not fur turning! Whilst desperately clinging to an untenable position, genius logic!
LittleRonnieHilderslWhat doesn't?
ey wrote:
bluerob wrote:Que? That doesn't really make any sense.LittleRonnieHildersl ey wrote:The fact that you attend makes you one of Mr Keans famous stats. He will use you to show the owners that 8000 fans are happy with him and the rest will come back when we are winning. Of course the 10,000 are not for turningbluerob wrote:When did I say I was happy with the situation? And generally those not boycotting get stick on these pages, do am happy to give some back to the 10000 sheep who stay away with arguments as deluded as keans comments.Gaz M wrote: Little ronnie its the supporters who go down to the match and then come on here mouthing off at the fans who also went but chanted Kean out and the fans who have decided to boycott the games that get up my nose we are all Rovers fans you wish to go down and cheer them on it seems no matter how indifferent the display other are not as easily pleased so stop bad mouthing the stay aways off It seems you are happy enough but the gate of around 13,000 proves many are not.Well said, couldn't have put it any better
Having said that I can see the point you are making in reference to what I said.
It was for by the way not fur, and I wasn't quoting anybody.
Bottom line is myself and 10,000 others are not coming back until Kean has gone
londonrover
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6:32pm Mon 27 Aug 12
hasslem hasslem
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6:38pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Wild Rover wrote:you are a strange one - always going into attack mode, without ever having any substance to back up your claims, i know you have been coming on here for a long time and therefore am not going to fall into the trap of claiming that your are a propagandist working on behalf of steve kean.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
if you have read my submissions post-walker trust era you will know that i was one of the few who were prepared to give venkys a chance from the outset and that their (and kean's) ridiculous stuff about beckham and the goofy brazilian were the mistakes made of over-enthusiasm of new owners (compare that with kenny dalglish's - "we need to learn to walk before we can run" statements on being made manager).
it quickly became clear that the venkys were well out of their depth when it came to running a football club and were not prepared to take the help and assistance of those who could have helped them from both inside and outside the club. the family instead took the counsel of a coach and his agent and proceeded to dismantle the stablility that had made rovers a model of prudency and consistency and mostly stability. sure we would never return to the successes of 92-95 but that was not the issue for virtually all rovers fans - i would say that 95% of us were/would be more than happy to know that our club was punching well above its rightful weight and could be held up as a benchmark on how to operate in a turbulent environment.
if you accept what is going on with kean, the massive turnover of club officials, coaches and the dissolution of our club in terms of ordinary backroom staff at ewood in all departments then that is your choice... i choose to question the integrity, direction and financial probity of this ragtag and bobtail mob that are currently running my beloved club.
if you accept that as john williams said we should sanction players signings on the instruction of agents.....if you accept that our owners have mortgaged our future on future sky monies (now considerably reduced due to relegation)....if you accept that our finances are precariously balanced as per hunt e.mail - then good luck to you.
where did i say that i agreed with the times article - i just said it was well balanced - its basic theme was that the supporters ire was principally focused at the wrong target and whilst kean is complicit - venkys are the principle architects of our demise. and the article mainly questions how the observer article can claim that venkys can have saved rovers from financial ruin and rather than making claims that were ere the next rangers or pompey under the the walker trust that scenario is now much more likely given what the current owners have subjected rovers to in the last 20 months..
finally - can i make a request - should you choose to reply to this - please don't go along with your usual "not a real supporter"...."premi
ership glory hunter" line of insults. its a little tiring. i feel no need to justify my supporting history and don't engage in the type of argument which goes "i'm a bigger supporter than you". don't question my support, and i won't question yours. suffice to say i will (god willing) be a fanatical fan of rovers long after kean and venkys have gone and regardless of the division we are in and i have been slagged off in previous seasons for saying that i don't care what division we are in, my support for rovers is total...but you cannot just stand by and allow people repeatedly kick sand in your face and expect to stay loyal to those kicking the sand.
if you do reply make it constructive rather than a polemic rant. also you might want to try and did out the times article.
all the best
wampam
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6:57pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob
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7:21pm Mon 27 Aug 12
hasslem hasslem wrote:Fantastic post, have to totally agree with all you say.
Wild Rover wrote:you are a strange one - always going into attack mode, without ever having any substance to back up your claims, i know you have been coming on here for a long time and therefore am not going to fall into the trap of claiming that your are a propagandist working on behalf of steve kean.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
if you have read my submissions post-walker trust era you will know that i was one of the few who were prepared to give venkys a chance from the outset and that their (and kean's) ridiculous stuff about beckham and the goofy brazilian were the mistakes made of over-enthusiasm of new owners (compare that with kenny dalglish's - "we need to learn to walk before we can run" statements on being made manager).
it quickly became clear that the venkys were well out of their depth when it came to running a football club and were not prepared to take the help and assistance of those who could have helped them from both inside and outside the club. the family instead took the counsel of a coach and his agent and proceeded to dismantle the stablility that had made rovers a model of prudency and consistency and mostly stability. sure we would never return to the successes of 92-95 but that was not the issue for virtually all rovers fans - i would say that 95% of us were/would be more than happy to know that our club was punching well above its rightful weight and could be held up as a benchmark on how to operate in a turbulent environment.
if you accept what is going on with kean, the massive turnover of club officials, coaches and the dissolution of our club in terms of ordinary backroom staff at ewood in all departments then that is your choice... i choose to question the integrity, direction and financial probity of this ragtag and bobtail mob that are currently running my beloved club.
if you accept that as john williams said we should sanction players signings on the instruction of agents.....if you accept that our owners have mortgaged our future on future sky monies (now considerably reduced due to relegation)....if you accept that our finances are precariously balanced as per hunt e.mail - then good luck to you.
where did i say that i agreed with the times article - i just said it was well balanced - its basic theme was that the supporters ire was principally focused at the wrong target and whilst kean is complicit - venkys are the principle architects of our demise. and the article mainly questions how the observer article can claim that venkys can have saved rovers from financial ruin and rather than making claims that were ere the next rangers or pompey under the the walker trust that scenario is now much more likely given what the current owners have subjected rovers to in the last 20 months..
finally - can i make a request - should you choose to reply to this - please don't go along with your usual "not a real supporter"...."premi
ership glory hunter" line of insults. its a little tiring. i feel no need to justify my supporting history and don't engage in the type of argument which goes "i'm a bigger supporter than you". don't question my support, and i won't question yours. suffice to say i will (god willing) be a fanatical fan of rovers long after kean and venkys have gone and regardless of the division we are in and i have been slagged off in previous seasons for saying that i don't care what division we are in, my support for rovers is total...but you cannot just stand by and allow people repeatedly kick sand in your face and expect to stay loyal to those kicking the sand.
if you do reply make it constructive rather than a polemic rant. also you might want to try and did out the times article.
all the best
If the ST sales had been below 5k we could well be looking for a new manager now.
Now lets see the majority grow, just a very very short term pain could be a very long term gain.
Not having a go at the attenders by the way, we all have our own choices to make.
LittleRonnieHildersley
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7:22pm Mon 27 Aug 12
wampam wrote:If you totally agree, why suggest that any who isn't in agreement with you isn't intelligent? The kean luvvy et al comments are just as tiresome.
totally agree. up the intelligent rovers fans. educate the rest. grow the boycott,it will work. get to leeds !
I don't agree with hasslem's point of view but I respect the tone of the post. The majority on here have been extremely negative and insulting to those with a different opinion.
ronnie clayton
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7:26pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Wild Rover wrote:Hendry will you stop commenting we all know its you .
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
baldie
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7:43pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:Interestingly,since the transfer deadline passed,the anti-Venky calls have all but subsided.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Fantastic post, have to totally agree with all you say.
Wild Rover wrote:you are a strange one - always going into attack mode, without ever having any substance to back up your claims, i know you have been coming on here for a long time and therefore am not going to fall into the trap of claiming that your are a propagandist working on behalf of steve kean.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
if you have read my submissions post-walker trust era you will know that i was one of the few who were prepared to give venkys a chance from the outset and that their (and kean's) ridiculous stuff about beckham and the goofy brazilian were the mistakes made of over-enthusiasm of new owners (compare that with kenny dalglish's - "we need to learn to walk before we can run" statements on being made manager).
it quickly became clear that the venkys were well out of their depth when it came to running a football club and were not prepared to take the help and assistance of those who could have helped them from both inside and outside the club. the family instead took the counsel of a coach and his agent and proceeded to dismantle the stablility that had made rovers a model of prudency and consistency and mostly stability. sure we would never return to the successes of 92-95 but that was not the issue for virtually all rovers fans - i would say that 95% of us were/would be more than happy to know that our club was punching well above its rightful weight and could be held up as a benchmark on how to operate in a turbulent environment.
if you accept what is going on with kean, the massive turnover of club officials, coaches and the dissolution of our club in terms of ordinary backroom staff at ewood in all departments then that is your choice... i choose to question the integrity, direction and financial probity of this ragtag and bobtail mob that are currently running my beloved club.
if you accept that as john williams said we should sanction players signings on the instruction of agents.....if you accept that our owners have mortgaged our future on future sky monies (now considerably reduced due to relegation)....if you accept that our finances are precariously balanced as per hunt e.mail - then good luck to you.
where did i say that i agreed with the times article - i just said it was well balanced - its basic theme was that the supporters ire was principally focused at the wrong target and whilst kean is complicit - venkys are the principle architects of our demise. and the article mainly questions how the observer article can claim that venkys can have saved rovers from financial ruin and rather than making claims that were ere the next rangers or pompey under the the walker trust that scenario is now much more likely given what the current owners have subjected rovers to in the last 20 months..
finally - can i make a request - should you choose to reply to this - please don't go along with your usual "not a real supporter"...."premi
ership glory hunter" line of insults. its a little tiring. i feel no need to justify my supporting history and don't engage in the type of argument which goes "i'm a bigger supporter than you". don't question my support, and i won't question yours. suffice to say i will (god willing) be a fanatical fan of rovers long after kean and venkys have gone and regardless of the division we are in and i have been slagged off in previous seasons for saying that i don't care what division we are in, my support for rovers is total...but you cannot just stand by and allow people repeatedly kick sand in your face and expect to stay loyal to those kicking the sand.
if you do reply make it constructive rather than a polemic rant. also you might want to try and did out the times article.
all the best
If the ST sales had been below 5k we could well be looking for a new manager now.
Now lets see the majority grow, just a very very short term pain could be a very long term gain.
Not having a go at the attenders by the way, we all have our own choices to make.
The vast majority of non renewers seem to be willing to give Venkys a chance,IF they get rid of Kean.
This represents a big change of opinion.Most on here said they weren't renewing,as they didn't want to give Venky's their money.
bluerob
says...
7:46pm Mon 27 Aug 12
If they start to make the right decisions and connect with the club and the fans, I am willing to give them one more chance
Iiii1111
says...
7:50pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:don't you just luv it when hassy gets on a roll.....by the way im a bigger supporter than him;-)
hasslem hasslem wrote:Fantastic post, have to totally agree with all you say.
Wild Rover wrote:you are a strange one - always going into attack mode, without ever having any substance to back up your claims, i know you have been coming on here for a long time and therefore am not going to fall into the trap of claiming that your are a propagandist working on behalf of steve kean.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
if you have read my submissions post-walker trust era you will know that i was one of the few who were prepared to give venkys a chance from the outset and that their (and kean's) ridiculous stuff about beckham and the goofy brazilian were the mistakes made of over-enthusiasm of new owners (compare that with kenny dalglish's - "we need to learn to walk before we can run" statements on being made manager).
it quickly became clear that the venkys were well out of their depth when it came to running a football club and were not prepared to take the help and assistance of those who could have helped them from both inside and outside the club. the family instead took the counsel of a coach and his agent and proceeded to dismantle the stablility that had made rovers a model of prudency and consistency and mostly stability. sure we would never return to the successes of 92-95 but that was not the issue for virtually all rovers fans - i would say that 95% of us were/would be more than happy to know that our club was punching well above its rightful weight and could be held up as a benchmark on how to operate in a turbulent environment.
if you accept what is going on with kean, the massive turnover of club officials, coaches and the dissolution of our club in terms of ordinary backroom staff at ewood in all departments then that is your choice... i choose to question the integrity, direction and financial probity of this ragtag and bobtail mob that are currently running my beloved club.
if you accept that as john williams said we should sanction players signings on the instruction of agents.....if you accept that our owners have mortgaged our future on future sky monies (now considerably reduced due to relegation)....if you accept that our finances are precariously balanced as per hunt e.mail - then good luck to you.
where did i say that i agreed with the times article - i just said it was well balanced - its basic theme was that the supporters ire was principally focused at the wrong target and whilst kean is complicit - venkys are the principle architects of our demise. and the article mainly questions how the observer article can claim that venkys can have saved rovers from financial ruin and rather than making claims that were ere the next rangers or pompey under the the walker trust that scenario is now much more likely given what the current owners have subjected rovers to in the last 20 months..
finally - can i make a request - should you choose to reply to this - please don't go along with your usual "not a real supporter"...."premi
ership glory hunter" line of insults. its a little tiring. i feel no need to justify my supporting history and don't engage in the type of argument which goes "i'm a bigger supporter than you". don't question my support, and i won't question yours. suffice to say i will (god willing) be a fanatical fan of rovers long after kean and venkys have gone and regardless of the division we are in and i have been slagged off in previous seasons for saying that i don't care what division we are in, my support for rovers is total...but you cannot just stand by and allow people repeatedly kick sand in your face and expect to stay loyal to those kicking the sand.
if you do reply make it constructive rather than a polemic rant. also you might want to try and did out the times article.
all the best
If the ST sales had been below 5k we could well be looking for a new manager now.
Now lets see the majority grow, just a very very short term pain could be a very long term gain.
Not having a go at the attenders by the way, we all have our own choices to make.
......wild rover, you surprise me, i used to find your post refreshing and im gobsmacked that you can't see the regime/management for what they are...shysters and takers….bleeding the Club you ( I know you’re a fan not a dingle like some try to make us believe) and I others love.
rovertakenmb
says...
7:53pm Mon 27 Aug 12
OUT FRIDAY 31ST AUGUST 2012
Order your copy now at...
www.rovertaken.co.uk
baldie
says...
8:03pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:Sorry got that on the brain,meant renewals deadline.
I think you will find the Transfer deadline hasn't passed.
If they start to make the right decisions and connect with the club and the fans, I am willing to give them one more chance
gleechy
says...
8:38pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Stu Wilson wrote:Get back in your bra.
The Kean bashers who hijack this website can bleat all they like but the table doesn't lie, we're on the up!
It really is time to stop all this "Kean out" nonsense and get behind our team. And those staying away just because they don't like one man, good grief, how childish and fickle is that?
The club is bigger than any one man, one wonders if the stay away fans are really Rovers fans at all.
wampam
says...
8:44pm Mon 27 Aug 12
NICEONESUNSHINE,
says...
8:55pm Mon 27 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:Thank God for that. I'm sure Madame will be able to sleep well at nights now that she knows you are willing to give them one more chance if they start to make the right decisions.
I think you will find the Transfer deadline hasn't passed.
If they start to make the right decisions and connect with the club and the fans, I am willing to give them one more chance
French Rover
says...
9:01pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Well said RR......You know my thoughts well enough by now my friend, and I still hold the view that Steve Kean is not (for me at least) totally synonymous with BRFC.
Ardent, passionate, loyal and fervent I am for BRFC for nigh on 40 years through thick and thin, but these are unprecedented times for BRFC.
That I opt to stay away from Ewood at this time, but will travel to the away games so I can watch our B&W hero's does not make me any less a supporter than those that choose to attend at this time.
What is important in all of this (IMO) is that the good folk don't allow for this situation to become a 'cut your nose to spite your face' in relation in returning for is not that the odious one as said:
"Nothing but success will suffice' ?
On that basis we would return to that which was in place prior to the takeover rather than this destruction element over these last 2 years ?
The stance being taken by a good majority of folk in abstaining is justified, and I believe is a important element in showing these people that BRFC matters on a much broader scale than they possibly thought.
Nobody should underestimate the depth of feeling aligned to BRFC whether that is those that choose to stay away or attend, but in the end we all want the same thing for BRFC -
Stability, reconciliation and best of all that chuffing Ewood park roar that I've witnessed on many, many occasions down the years.
My demands are high for BRFC via it's incumbents and I don't expect to win all of the time, but to witness my B&W shirt competing on a level playing field that this club, through it's history as achieved, and appreciates the solid support that our club is built upon.
Much to do as yet for me in putting these conditions back in place, but when I see this back I will support it. No supporter should except less.
Thus far the odious one is proving me incorrect as to my misgivings, but a long way to go before reconciliation if ever that occurs ?
For the greater good of BRFC I would and will put aside my grievances when the time is right even if the odious one remains ?
It would be triumphal for all concerned if and when BRFC exit this dark period that as engulfed our club.
That is my wish.
Just a thought on this pissy wet Bank Holiday folk's :)
Arte et labore
I do not want him at my club - now or never - but that does not stop me enjoying a Rovers win.....so rare these past two years - nor will it stop you enjoying that event also I think.
You and many others are making a big and hard decision not to go down to Ewood now, and though I dont agree with it of course I respect your decision, but please remember that lots of fans in 1960 stayed away in protest after the cup final fiasco and many of them got so used to not going on Ewood that they never went again. We can ill afford to lose another 7k this time.
By the way it is not a bank holiday here and the weather has been in the low thirties C.......nice!
Also - saw today that Rovers are now clear favourites to WIN the Championship at 7-1. Should have got my dosh on at 10's last week...it could just happen!
wampam
says...
9:06pm Mon 27 Aug 12
RUinsane
says...
9:46pm Mon 27 Aug 12
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:Thats not nice calling mongolians disabled and then resorting to personal insults. I take it by your reply your head is still sore. I will prescribe paracetemol and a further lay down.
RUinsane wrote:Have you been busy disparaging disabled people again today URInsane, or making your plans to travel down to MK to continue your work as part of Kean's human shield with the Derby d'heads?
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:Hello, have you recovered from banging your head yesterday? I'm glad you're feeling better.
"Spoiled for choice" but looking to secure Lambert, Young, Rhodes and/or Whickham. Meanwhile our defence is being marshalled by Backpass Dann.
Rochina and Pederson create the winning goal yet one can't get a game and the other is a transfer-listed pensioner, whom he describes as a "boy".
The strange thing about Keanohios comments is he says Rochina was injured with a 4cm tear, Yet Rochina himself said, on twitter, he was 100% fit and" bean head ",had decided he was not in the squad. Now taking recent history into account i.e. the miracle recovery of nelsen who was near death. We can conclude that Kean is lying again and is in fact an utter twonk with no clue as to what he is doing.
Yours truly
one of the 8000
I see you have still been suckered into doing the work of a dingle. My how they laugh at your stupidity.
Coming on here and on facebook disguised as Rovers fans and being able to dupe 10000 of you.
RUinsane
says...
10:01pm Mon 27 Aug 12
wampam wrote:Yeah lets see the 10000 boycotters turn up at leeds. Tell you what, if the 10000 boycotters turn up at leeds I'll join the boycott myself.
still tickets available at elland road. let's sell out and make it massive. tickets are still available. i thought all the boycotters were going to away games. granted the tickets are expensive but it's only an hour and a bit on the train 15 quid return. let's screw a positive out of this mess and get positive media as the best away support EVER. make em think we have a point. let's sell out and then all without tickets register with leeds and have fans all over. we've seen it often enough with visitors at ewood before. are we boycotters or are we rovers ? a chance to show the other fans who don't see our point. Comon. get yer ticket. total support. plus KEANE OUT. BEFORE....HALFTIME AND END
If there is the usual 1,000 or so then it was all bull
whappen
says...
10:26pm Mon 27 Aug 12
Wild Rover wrote:If you haven't read the Times article you can't assume it was only being selectively used by HH to support an opinion. It may well have had both sides of the story sensibly and credibly presented. Like I said I haven't read it so I don't know.
whappen wrote:Tbh I have not read either , I dont pay much attetion to journos, politicians or double glazing salesmen. I can form my own opinions. I was just making the point that certain people / person on here are vey quick to highlight that which reinforces their preset view and then claim a balanced view? Which is just as much BS as anything coming from SK..glasshouses? Ask why the story of Big Sams wine stash has never been mentioned on these pages, by his detractors even though it is out there? Because it dont fit the plan....?Wild Rover wrote:I haven't read the Times one so can't comment on its accuracy or balance. I do know however Jeremy Alexander's article in the Grauniad was neither - d'you think it was? From the comments in the Grauniad, you're in a pretty small minority if you did. Chri$t, there were even Burnley fans calling it unbelievable rubbish. A difference of opinion is not the same as the difference between fact and fiction.hasslem hasslem wrote: excellent well balanced article in saturday's times headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only. however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
I'll admit if the title was "headless chickens leading Blackburn astray" it would seem to be taking a less sympathetic view of the owners than the Grauniad piece. I doubt it would have been as factually inaccurate though.
It's pretty common knowledge BFS doesn't mind a drop of decent wine so what's the story? Do you mean he has a wine cellar, with bottles of wine in it? I don't think that actually warrants the description "a stash" after all, we aren't living in 1930's Chicago.
Shock horror, well off bloke drinks expensive wine; be envious by all means (I am, on both counts) but it's hardly headline stuff nor can it be used as a counterbalance to SK's misdemeanour - if that's where you are coming from.
BFS probably has a garage with a shiny big car in it as well. Its only if the two should, shall we say, interact that a story may emerge.
Iiii1111
says...
11:00pm Mon 27 Aug 12
wampam wrote:Have they started running the bullet from Somerset;-)
still tickets available at elland road. let's sell out and make it massive. tickets are still available. i thought all the boycotters were going to away games. granted the tickets are expensive but it's only an hour and a bit on the train 15 quid return. let's screw a positive out of this mess and get positive media as the best away support EVER. make em think we have a point. let's sell out and then all without tickets register with leeds and have fans all over. we've seen it often enough with visitors at ewood before. are we boycotters or are we rovers ? a chance to show the other fans who don't see our point. Comon. get yer ticket. total support. plus KEANE OUT. BEFORE....HALFTIME AND END
Roverthere
says...
5:52am Tue 28 Aug 12
hasslem hasslem wrote:Great reply!
Wild Rover wrote:you are a strange one - always going into attack mode, without ever having any substance to back up your claims, i know you have been coming on here for a long time and therefore am not going to fall into the trap of claiming that your are a propagandist working on behalf of steve kean.
hasslem hasslem wrote:Ahh, I see , by well balanced you mean an article that agrees broadly with you view of the current situation. As opposed to one that holds a differing view..which is not allowed in your world
excellent well balanced article in saturday's times
headless chickens leading blackburn astray - cant send a link as times online is subscription only.
however it puts that daft guardian article the previous week into perspective.
Then you say Kean uses propaganda, pot and kettle spring to mind
if you have read my submissions post-walker trust era you will know that i was one of the few who were prepared to give venkys a chance from the outset and that their (and kean's) ridiculous stuff about beckham and the goofy brazilian were the mistakes made of over-enthusiasm of new owners (compare that with kenny dalglish's - "we need to learn to walk before we can run" statements on being made manager).
it quickly became clear that the venkys were well out of their depth when it came to running a football club and were not prepared to take the help and assistance of those who could have helped them from both inside and outside the club. the family instead took the counsel of a coach and his agent and proceeded to dismantle the stablility that had made rovers a model of prudency and consistency and mostly stability. sure we would never return to the successes of 92-95 but that was not the issue for virtually all rovers fans - i would say that 95% of us were/would be more than happy to know that our club was punching well above its rightful weight and could be held up as a benchmark on how to operate in a turbulent environment.
if you accept what is going on with kean, the massive turnover of club officials, coaches and the dissolution of our club in terms of ordinary backroom staff at ewood in all departments then that is your choice... i choose to question the integrity, direction and financial probity of this ragtag and bobtail mob that are currently running my beloved club.
if you accept that as john williams said we should sanction players signings on the instruction of agents.....if you accept that our owners have mortgaged our future on future sky monies (now considerably reduced due to relegation)....if you accept that our finances are precariously balanced as per hunt e.mail - then good luck to you.
where did i say that i agreed with the times article - i just said it was well balanced - its basic theme was that the supporters ire was principally focused at the wrong target and whilst kean is complicit - venkys are the principle architects of our demise. and the article mainly questions how the observer article can claim that venkys can have saved rovers from financial ruin and rather than making claims that were ere the next rangers or pompey under the the walker trust that scenario is now much more likely given what the current owners have subjected rovers to in the last 20 months..
finally - can i make a request - should you choose to reply to this - please don't go along with your usual "not a real supporter"...."premi
ership glory hunter" line of insults. its a little tiring. i feel no need to justify my supporting history and don't engage in the type of argument which goes "i'm a bigger supporter than you". don't question my support, and i won't question yours. suffice to say i will (god willing) be a fanatical fan of rovers long after kean and venkys have gone and regardless of the division we are in and i have been slagged off in previous seasons for saying that i don't care what division we are in, my support for rovers is total...but you cannot just stand by and allow people repeatedly kick sand in your face and expect to stay loyal to those kicking the sand.
if you do reply make it constructive rather than a polemic rant. also you might want to try and did out the times article.
all the best
Yes, it will also take a lot of changes before I return. To throw away what we had took years to acheive, with the arrogance and incompetence it was done by, and to put up with the ranting lies of a rank bad manager and parasitic dubious hangers on will take more than a couple of lucky results in a inferior division.
I will always support BRFC and no doubt return in the future, at some point (irrespective of division) , but at this point in time cannot bring myself to support this current regime unless a massive change in ownership or in the running thr club is apparent!
Come on you blues!!
bburnrover
says...
8:41am Tue 28 Aug 12
I think he will get another last minute panick buy like Yakubu but unfortunately there aren't many Yakubu's around.We may as well try for Ince from Blackpool we have tried for everyone else.
French Rover
says...
6:55pm Tue 28 Aug 12
Iiii1111 wrote:i think he means the train from Blackburn to Leeds......and no there is no bullet train in Somerset .....last I heard GWR was still using Stevensons Rocket between Taunton and Temple Meads...!
wampam wrote:Have they started running the bullet from Somerset;-)
still tickets available at elland road. let's sell out and make it massive. tickets are still available. i thought all the boycotters were going to away games. granted the tickets are expensive but it's only an hour and a bit on the train 15 quid return. let's screw a positive out of this mess and get positive media as the best away support EVER. make em think we have a point. let's sell out and then all without tickets register with leeds and have fans all over. we've seen it often enough with visitors at ewood before. are we boycotters or are we rovers ? a chance to show the other fans who don't see our point. Comon. get yer ticket. total support. plus KEANE OUT. BEFORE....HALFTIME AND END
OnePostThenTheOther
says...
8:45pm Tue 28 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:Has somebody ****?
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:Thats not nice calling mongolians disabled and then resorting to personal insults. I take it by your reply your head is still sore. I will prescribe paracetemol and a further lay down.
RUinsane wrote:Have you been busy disparaging disabled people again today URInsane, or making your plans to travel down to MK to continue your work as part of Kean's human shield with the Derby d'heads?
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:Hello, have you recovered from banging your head yesterday? I'm glad you're feeling better.
"Spoiled for choice" but looking to secure Lambert, Young, Rhodes and/or Whickham. Meanwhile our defence is being marshalled by Backpass Dann.
Rochina and Pederson create the winning goal yet one can't get a game and the other is a transfer-listed pensioner, whom he describes as a "boy".
The strange thing about Keanohios comments is he says Rochina was injured with a 4cm tear, Yet Rochina himself said, on twitter, he was 100% fit and" bean head ",had decided he was not in the squad. Now taking recent history into account i.e. the miracle recovery of nelsen who was near death. We can conclude that Kean is lying again and is in fact an utter twonk with no clue as to what he is doing.
Yours truly
one of the 8000
I see you have still been suckered into doing the work of a dingle. My how they laugh at your stupidity.
Coming on here and on facebook disguised as Rovers fans and being able to dupe 10000 of you.
Oh no it's Kean's PA talking sh8 again.
Can't say that I'm surprised that somebody like you that calls a disadvantaged person a "mong" is a Kean fan.

alphajono says...
7:33am Mon 27 Aug 12
Glen Mullan reckons this will be happening within the next 48hrs
"Rovers will sign a striker , centre back and goalkeeper in next 48 hours,
I will start by giving you the goalkeeper , He is polish Grzegorg Sandomierski, age 22 and currently playing for Gent"