Agnew: Blackburn Rovers must learn from mistakes (From Lancashire Telegraph)

same old bull heard it last week some things never change agnew OUT!

I am one of then 80%.
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Kean must go before any return.

I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that.

Is that a tongue twister?

bypass06 wrote:
I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that.

Is that a tongue twister?

No it's a load of bull!

What a load of tosh !!

I am also one of the 80%

'Clearly, there have been mistakes and misjudgements. Now it is how we all deal with the situation. I believe you have got to recognise where things went wrong, address the areas of concern, learn from mistakes and move on'.
Answer - Sack Steve Kean. How can anyone be in charge who has lost the club millions!?

'Coming up to date, we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons'.
True we have but we were making progress with Sam Alladyce and they sack him!

'Steve is fully aware of the need to get a winning team out on the pitch'.
Hopefully this means that if kean continues to perform poorly they will sack him and quick!

'I was recently speaking to a Southampton fan who told me they had successive relegations, were in danger of liquidation, with fans up in arms and nobody expected to renew their season tickets.
I think they are going to start next season with 32,000 seats sold. It can turn around – that’s clear from those examples'.
Forgot to mention the likes of Leeds Utd and Portsmouth!

'Investment is being made into the playing squad and that is great, although obviously there is always a balancing act to be struck'.
This reads we are buying players (Championship Players) and selling Premiership players!

Paul Agnew maybe a Rovers fan but he is just protecting his job! The best way for this lot is to remain quiet and go about there job in a professional manner - action speaks louder than words!

Ok then practise what you preach.....SACK KEAN..problem solved! Or almost!

Analyse these answers and what has he said? Very little. A load of claptrap.
How to avoid the question and say nothing - right out of the Kean book of gobbledegook. They make a perfect pair.

bypass06 wrote:
I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that.

Is that a tongue twister?

Might be a Chinese proverb. More likely he's been on the same Public Speaking course and read the same books as the Brilliant One.

So Mr Agnew you the owners have made it clear that Kean has the backing,,,Let me make it as clear as I can to you,,,NO WAY ARE WE COMING TO EWOOD UNTIL THAT CLOWN IS OUT OF THIS CLUB,,and with everything else you have said you are as big a clown as the deluded one. NO RETURN TILL KEAN HAS GONE.

Is this the first time anybody has said "sorry" for the relegation?!

Why, oh why can they not see that if Kean was sacked and a good manager put in place, that act alone would bring fans back and create a positive atmosphere?! Clueless!

sacking the drunk would be a start but lets be honest there would still be a big pile of no hopers left and its growing by the day god help our club!

Coming up to date, we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons.


only since kean came

Clearly, there have been mistakes and misjudgements. Now it is how we all deal with the situation. I believe you have got to recognise where things went wrong, address the areas of concern, learn from mistakes and move on.


SACK KEAN!!!

(I believe that if the team is good and off the pish is poor, off the pish is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pish is good then off the pish is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that? )

Ahhhhhhhh I see know you are all on the pish, mines a pint?

Me thinks he has had to many to drink,

I need a drink to work this out( what twaddle )

Im the 1% sorry 99%.

roverfor60years wrote:
Analyse these answers and what has he said? Very little. A load of claptrap.
How to avoid the question and say nothing - right out of the Kean book of gobbledegook. They make a perfect pair.

is it not up to ANDY CRYER to delve a little deeper ,and if they wont answer the question he puts to them, tell us its not hard or is it ANDY?

we all know Kean is the problem here right ? were just goin to have to deal with it...

he will not stop me going to Ewood... do you think he cares weather you go or not ?

get your ticket and support our boys is my call...

your all entitled to do what you feel best for your club but in all honestly and in my opinion, staying away is only hurting the team, not the owners, they genuinly are not that bothered that you dont go to ewood

A Darener wrote:
Clearly, there have been mistakes and misjudgements. Now it is how we all deal with the situation. I believe you have got to recognise where things went wrong, address the areas of concern, learn from mistakes and move on.


SACK KEAN!!!

It's as simple as that. If Kean took over as manager of Man City, they wouldn't finish in the top four.

You can predict the interview at Christmas now: Well, things haven't gone as well as we expected but our Steve has had to contend with a lot of hostility. The fans will eventually learn that we are right, we have been right all along, and Steve Kean is doing brilliantly under the circumstances. Venky's, the board and all involved with the club are all right behind our Steve. If the fans will stop their protests and come to the games and focus on the positives of our Steve, we all believe we will bounce back into the Premiership very soon. Too late for this season now we have a relegation scrap on our hands, but we are very positive about the Rovers future.

MidlandRover85 wrote:
Is this the first time anybody has said "sorry" for the relegation?!

Why, oh why can they not see that if Kean was sacked and a good manager put in place, that act alone would bring fans back and create a positive atmosphere?! Clueless!

That act alone would put 10,000 0n the gate. He is obviously looking after his own job.
Apart from walking up to me and spitting in my face I cannot think of any other insult to me as a EX season Ticket holder that he could have done with what he has said in this interview,,,KEAN OUT,,NOTHING ELSE WILL DO.

Its sad that its taken a relegation to see the need for a basic management structure and also for the need for experienced players after getting rid of most of the experience in the previous squad.

However, all that said, the biggest problem is still the Manager who has to date shown nothing to suggest he is good at any aspect of the Manager's job or that he can be a good Manager at any level. If we don't get off to a good start and are competing by the end of the first couple of months then I don't think they will be able to keep him.

Agnew is saying what he would be expected to say but I was annoyed by this statement "we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons". Thought this was a swipe at the previous regime and almost sounds like he's saying relegation was going to come anyway. Would still like someone to stand up and take responsibility for the problems over the last 18 months.

Prepare to be shocked again Mr Agnew and let's hope football as a whole is shocked again too come the 1st home game of the season when the attendance figure is published.

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"!.

The longer the present regime remains in charge the more precarious the CLUB'S future will be. The CLUB'S long term future is far more important than the short term performance of the 1st team.

STAY TOGETHER BRFC supporters and STAY AWAY until Mr Bean is sacked.

Staying away will prove to be the most effective action any supporter of the club can take to bring about change.

When we get Our Rovers Back then we can all get behind the team once again . . . . .

R.T.I.D

Why do I continue to read this stuff knowing, even beforehand, I'm goin' to be infuriated by it?

*Shakes head*

BREAKING: The SFA refuses clearance for the transfers of Steven Davis, Steven Whittaker, Steve Naismith, Jamie Ness"

Good thing Naismith and Whittaker turned us down I guess!

Agnew you talk ,oad of tosh get out and now take venkys with you.

We will not fall for your liars and we know Steve Kean will not get sacked any sooner.

Sell up venkys i really hate you from the deep of my heart.

dallarover wrote:
Its sad that its taken a relegation to see the need for a basic management structure and also for the need for experienced players after getting rid of most of the experience in the previous squad.

However, all that said, the biggest problem is still the Manager who has to date shown nothing to suggest he is good at any aspect of the Manager's job or that he can be a good Manager at any level. If we don't get off to a good start and are competing by the end of the first couple of months then I don't think they will be able to keep him.

Agnew is saying what he would be expected to say but I was annoyed by this statement "we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons". Thought this was a swipe at the previous regime and almost sounds like he's saying relegation was going to come anyway. Would still like someone to stand up and take responsibility for the problems over the last 18 months.

the only person who can stand up and take responsibility is a drunk but they never accept that there is a problem do they!HIC!

This article, is the biggest load of nonsense ever written from someone connected with Blackburn Rovers for a long long time. I honestly cannot believe what I am reading.....

"I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that" - so why were the previous administration so well respected throughout football no matter what happened on the field of play?

Good to see him talk about Southampton who suffered a double relegation almost faced liquidation and got a points deduction. Didn't they get a new owner by the name of Markus Liebherr, appointed a new manager in Alan Pardew and embarked on a spending spree to regain Premier League status? A modern day Jack Walker of sorts who sadly never saw his dreams become reality. What a legacy he has left that club, hopefully they don't get a Venky's type scenario to ruin it.

There is clearly no answer to the Steve Kean question, the biggest one that faces the current regime if they are to stay in place. It is crazy to ignore this and it is plainly obvious that Paul Agnew does not understand that results are not all important to supporters and fans who have been attending for years despite previous relegations. These non-renewers aren't just disappointed at relegation but at the sheer incompetence of Blackburn Rovers off field antics. The fresh start can only begin once these people are no longer associated with this football club.

how to antagonise fans by Paul Agnew what a doosh it's so clear to see how to get the fans back sack KEAN 

KEAN OUT =
BRFC SUPPORTERS IN

Just do it you thick ******s

You will NEVER convince any fan that the idiot that you have appointed is right for OUR club.

Stop digging and ditch the loser ASAP or forget any ideas of promotion or enticing the people that you have insulted back to the club.

Mr Agnew

You have missed - seemingly deliberately - the point.

It is far too easy to dodge a question by focussing on the 'future' when no one associated with the management of the club seem to have learnt from mistakes of the past - the multitude of mistakes that have been made since the club was sold.

The vast majority of supporters continue to be concerned by the lack of transparency and the continuing farce that is Mr Kean.

Admittedly relegation was an outcome of a combination of issues but Mr Kean should have taken his full share of responsibility and should have been dealt with accordingly.

Most of the Rovers supporters and probably most football supporters generally are staggered he is still in a job - of any kind - at the club and not just because he is our worst manager in living memory.

If at any point since he was appointed he had demonstrated any managerial quality he may just have gained a modicum of respect but he has not - apart from the ability to stand on the touchline absorbing a level of personal abuse I have never witnessed before at any football ground.

Some of this abuse was and continues to be distasteful but it reflects a level of complete and utter frustration with the overall situation that has developed since the club was sold and the very tarnished image it now projects across the world of football.

To many of us this 'tarnished image' continues to be personified by Mr Kean, the way in which he 'manages', the way in which he has conducted himself, the choice of players he has brought to the club and the absence of any form of denial that he is - in some way or other - exercising a level of control in the affairs of the club - way beyond both his ability and the role he is theoretically employed for but has singularly failed to deliver.

You are patronising us Mr Agnew, you are defending - and very poorly - an organisation and an individual that we do not trust - and which the vast majority of us will continue to distance ourselves from - until you or someone with an ounce of decency and an understanding of what a well managed football club looks like takes the necessary steps to start to rebuild some form of positive relationship with the many thousands of disgusted supporters who have no intention whatsoever of attending a game until these steps are taken.

Your comparison to Newcastle is farcical.

It was and is obvious who owns the club irrespective of what the supporters think of him.

They had a very decent man managing the team who behaved impeccably throughout - even after he was dismissed for gaining promotion for the club.

Football is more than a religion in Newcastle - I know I have lived and worked there - and 40000 supporters are generally guaranteed irrespective of team performance.

The previous highly respected management team
at Ewood worked extremely hard to build up and retain reasonable attendances,loyalty and goodwill but this has been put at jeopardy if not damaged beyond repair because of what has happened and the fact that - despite the overwhelming and contrary evidence that is staring you in the face - you seem to believe that you will be successful with Mr Kean in charge.

As stated Mr Agnew - stop patronising us.

benal13 wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Analyse these answers and what has he said? Very little. A load of claptrap.
How to avoid the question and say nothing - right out of the Kean book of gobbledegook. They make a perfect pair.

is it not up to ANDY CRYER to delve a little deeper ,and if they wont answer the question he puts to them, tell us its not hard or is it ANDY?

I think Cryer does ok. He has made it quite clear where he stands with this circus, and he's firmly with the fans, but has a job to do.
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What does happen is that when he poses a question, the recipient quite simply shoots themself in the foot.
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He doesn't have to be a Jeremy Paxman cos Kean, Agnew et al just woffle and woffle and woffle and spurt forth the same old bilge.
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And convince no-one.

I to am part of the 80% if the club cared Kean would be sacked, no chance of me going back and watching painful displays of football and paying for the privlege, this man has helped me to almost hate the game I love, as for the new management they would make great politicans given all the crap they speak.

Hey, Paul, look at the Emperor's clothes... aren't they splendid?

"But you must not slip into the trap of focussing too hard on the past. It is imperative that we do not get bogged down with what has been and gone."

Don't I recall Bob Diamond last year saying something similar about banker bashing & look what has happened to him !

Can't believe he said we are going to learn from our mistakes and put it right.
Point A
If you employ uncle fester the cone collector as manager, you get relegated.
Point B
If you sell your best players, you get relegated.
Point C
If you let your experienced players go, you get relegated.
Point D
If you play lots of kids you get relegated
Point E
If you put a sheite team on the pitch whilst your experinced and better players are watching from the stands or in some cases the Dubai formula 1 circuit, you get relegated.
Point F
It you try and run a succesful premier league club like Tommy Balls shop outlet, you get relegated.
Point G
If you don't spend the money you gained from selling your best players on players of an equal cost, you slowly become sheiter and you get relegated.
So when you have learnt from these mistakes, Mr Agnew, can you please inform us because from where I'm looking, it seems like you have now lost the fans through talking utter bollax about your total disregard to any of the points listed above.
You and your cronies said we had an ageing squad that needed updating, you have now signed players older than the ones who left, and continue to scour the world for untried high risk signings which were your undoing last season.
Anything learnt? We have, if you go to the shop and the goods on display are shoddy, you take your custom elsewhere.

I think Kean should be sacked too. He promised much and failed on all counts - he said he was happy with the squad last August and said "watch us go."

Unless the new people on the board address the question head on (why they are sticking with Steve Kean) they are showing an acceptance that no-one will trust them.

Andy Cryer - this looks like a typical Q&A produced by a PR department. Ask the question straight and then we can understand on what grounds they trust the footballing side of the club with Steve Kean. Without that answer they can spin as much as they like - we need to know why they back Kean.

Sorry, can someone explain what this means? "off the pitch is poor"?

my head hurts!

I was in the library noisily eating a kebab when the librarian said to me, ""shsssh"

I replied, "No it's Doner."

Andy Murray's speech after the men's final put a lump in my throat.

It's my own fault for eating and laughing at the same time.

Does any other fan feel utterly broken hearted about what has happened to us?

I,M no mathmatician however after your insulting interview toward the fans I suggest you review your numbers,,,I think you may find 90% more appropriate,,,,,,,,,
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KEAN OUT OR WE STAY AWAY,,,SIMPLES

I'm beginning to suspect I'm not as popular as I thought I was.I've been in hospital for two weeks, and the only "Hope you get out soon!" card I've got is from the nurses.

Robin Van Persie's house has been set on fire.

Police suspect Arsene.

KEAN OUT AGNEW OUT YOUR NOT A ROVERS FAN

Just posted today on Rovers website -

"ROVERS CUT HOSPITALITY PRICES BY UP TO 40%!"

Operations Director Mr Paul Agnew then attempts to explain the reasons behind the reductions.

Come off it Paul, we all know the reasons for the reductions, people have withdrawn their support and are voting with their feet! You have a product which no-one wants anymore and for very good reasons.

There'll be more shocks to come yet Paul!

"They that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind" . . . . .

R.T.I.D

You just don't get it to do you Agnew. No amount of bull and spin will get me back at the club until Kean has been fired and Venky's have sold off!!

Same Sh!t, Different Depth.
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As we know any club official that dares to criticize Kean is dismissed. Agnew knows this and consequently gives us all this tosh about learning from mistakes and not repeating them etc.....note to agnew - even today kean is telling radio lancashire that junior hoilett may sign a new contract....this man should not just be sacked....he should be locked up...and agnew its your job to make prevent kean from saying tosh like that - so, in your first week kean has told us that: we are preparing for a return to the premiership.....that other teams in the championship are going to fear us....and that junior hoilett may stay.
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to me that sounds like last summer's: top ten finish....this is the squad that i wanted to put together now watch us go....its just a case of dotting the "i"s and crossing the "t"s. GROUNDHOG DAY!!!!

The inventor of the ballet skirt didnt know what to call it.

Then he put tu and tu together.

Questioned answered like a politician. Never once coming up with a difinitive answer, just spouting more bulls**t. he also said he has never seen so much animosity from the fans. Have you prats running the club not got it through you thick skulls yet. We think Kean is S**t and couldn't run a p**s up in a brewery. He has proved this over 18 months not over a couple of games. His inept tactics, team selection and substitutions have at times been a joke and one of his first ever statements about playing good pretty football at European level have proved way beyond this guys abilities. It is time for a change. You have had long enough to prove you just ain't got it. Please move aside and take your traveling circus and clowns with you.

So if these clowns are going to learn from their past mistakes, they are going to shore up the defence, that let more goals in than most previous. Woops I forgot you were just using words in a certain order, because they sound right. Where was the question about why rhino skin makes pathetic predictions and taunts the fans?

It's a historic day as a Scotsman has finally made it to the court...And it's got nothing to do with drugs!

Crow27 wrote:
'Clearly, there have been mistakes and misjudgements. Now it is how we all deal with the situation. I believe you have got to recognise where things went wrong, address the areas of concern, learn from mistakes and move on'.
Answer - Sack Steve Kean. How can anyone be in charge who has lost the club millions!?

'Coming up to date, we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons'.
True we have but we were making progress with Sam Alladyce and they sack him!

'Steve is fully aware of the need to get a winning team out on the pitch'.
Hopefully this means that if kean continues to perform poorly they will sack him and quick!

'I was recently speaking to a Southampton fan who told me they had successive relegations, were in danger of liquidation, with fans up in arms and nobody expected to renew their season tickets.
I think they are going to start next season with 32,000 seats sold. It can turn around – that’s clear from those examples'.
Forgot to mention the likes of Leeds Utd and Portsmouth!

'Investment is being made into the playing squad and that is great, although obviously there is always a balancing act to be struck'.
This reads we are buying players (Championship Players) and selling Premiership players!

Paul Agnew maybe a Rovers fan but he is just protecting his job! The best way for this lot is to remain quiet and go about there job in a professional manner - action speaks louder than words!

The point about hovering around relegation is ****. The only time we were iin danger was under Paul Ince and that problem was eliminated by sacking the inexperienced Ince and appointing Allardyce as a safe pair of hands. If Kean had been fired at the end of 2011 season and winner put in charge, we wouldn't be in this trouble now.

My mate met me and the wife after we'd had a new baby.

Looking down into the pram he said, "He's a bonny lad. What's his name?"

"Andy Murray", I said.

"Oh!" He laughed. "Because you think he's going to be good at tennis?"

"No, because he keeps losing his bottle."

benal13 wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Analyse these answers and what has he said? Very little. A load of claptrap.
How to avoid the question and say nothing - right out of the Kean book of gobbledegook. They make a perfect pair.

is it not up to ANDY CRYER to delve a little deeper ,and if they wont answer the question he puts to them, tell us its not hard or is it ANDY?

Maybe Andy has let him wallow in his own drivel. Spouting these evasive platitudes has made Agnew look anything but our saviour.

We aren't stupid. We can smell BS and there's plenty in this. Sack Kean, sack Shebby then sack yourselves.

Spin, spin,spin.....all that ever comes from the corridors of Ewood park these days.....all to protect one man...WHY?...rid the club of that man and problem is solved.....I'd luv to know what hold he's got on the owners....nah he can't possible have a share in the club!

How can you say your a Rovers fan when he once worked outside the towns walls in Preston???

What next, Shebby saying he's a real drinker in the Aquaduct?

Or Mrs D admitting trumping on your wife's leg to keep her warm
is a normal Blackburn trait?

MidlandRover85 wrote:
Is this the first time anybody has said "sorry" for the relegation?!

Why, oh why can they not see that if Kean was sacked and a good manager put in place, that act alone would bring fans back and create a positive atmosphere?! Clueless!

"We can’t change what happened; we’re all sorry about relegation, but please help us to get things back on track".

That does not come across as an apology to me.
It says we are all feeling sorry (for ourselves). But, what the hell, forgive and forget eh.
Lets pretend it never happened.
Forget all the promises and the charter.
As for "Is Kean the right man? No way was he going to comment upon that. He is just keeping his fingers crossed that he (SK) performs a minor miracle. Just like last year.

i don't know how you lot have the energy, i really don't.
perfectly reasonable article and set of responses for those of us who live in the real world. seriously, are any of you expecting him to come out and say, "kean was poor last year, it is all his fault and he's got to get 10 wins in the first 10 games or he's out of here?"
he's not. kean remains our manager for the time being and you lot aren't coming to the games. ok, fair dos. let the rest of us move on please.
last year, we wouldn't have had this interview at all. that in itself is progress and long may it continue. if you don't like what you hear, fair enough. but it does seem like most of you will view the words through unfairly negative glasses to pick out the problems, just as i will do the opposite. once again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but let's just let them get on with trying to put things right.

The key to all this, and the solution to the problem is one word.
INVESTMENT. And when Venkys can show they have invested some of their own money in the club, instead of generating it by player sales and cutting wages/jobs. We would believe that what you are spouting is not RUBBISH.

fitz808 wrote:
i don't know how you lot have the energy, i really don't. perfectly reasonable article and set of responses for those of us who live in the real world. seriously, are any of you expecting him to come out and say, "kean was poor last year, it is all his fault and he's got to get 10 wins in the first 10 games or he's out of here?" he's not. kean remains our manager for the time being and you lot aren't coming to the games. ok, fair dos. let the rest of us move on please. last year, we wouldn't have had this interview at all. that in itself is progress and long may it continue. if you don't like what you hear, fair enough. but it does seem like most of you will view the words through unfairly negative glasses to pick out the problems, just as i will do the opposite. once again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but let's just let them get on with trying to put things right.

Even if Agnew wasn't a member of the Queens Park WMC?

So, Agnew, you have never seen such animosity from fans? I wonder why that is.....?
Perhaps you could list what in your view are all the mistakes from the sacking of Big Sam, who made those mistakes and then tell us what plans are going to be put in place to rectify them.
And just in case your own list is incomplete, I will gladly provide a comprehensive one.

Kean will never be accepted at this club and the only reason i can see why he won't be gracious and leave is because he knows that his reputation is shot and he will struggle to get a job stacking shelves at Aldi, never mind another job in football!

"There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons."
Two of them had uncle fester as Manager, so that's where the obvious problems lie.
Anyone putting themselves forward to work in this corrupt enviroment is a phoney, and will get what they deserve.
These new pratts from PNE have an excellent record of helping relegation, and being closely associated with a rival club, what a sparkling CV.

Lucky Mr Best had that extra training with Fester, or he wouldn't be half the sub he is going to be.
Better get some stronger nets, they're gonna get some hammering next season you halfwits.

1rover wrote:
KEAN OUT AGNEW OUT YOUR NOT A ROVERS FAN

I honestly don't remember seeing him away at the pre-season friendly at Shamrock Rovers on 6th August 1990 when we won 3-0

Sack Steve Kean and I will renew my season tick tomorrow. However, like many other fans I will not set foot in Ewood Park until he has gone.

Feel like crying. Was that interview supposed to reassure me?

With a heavy heart, it's voldemort or me.

I can't ever see rovers being anything less than infuriating under venkys, hope they prove me wrong.

Secretly looking forward to elland rd and hillsbrough amongst a few others though.

He seems to suggest that fans are angry because of relegation. No - the moderate fans are angry because of what went on in the preceeding 12 months. The fans could see the relegation months before. It was the professional staff and owners who turned a blind eye to the obvious and continually made ridiculous complacent comments. It did not take a genius to realise that if you removed the management structure of the club, Steve Kean would flounder (even if he had managerial qualities) as he tried to keep too many balls in the air. Apart from Yakubu, were there any really successful purchases. The communication with the fans was awful all season - it seemed to me that the local media were being treated with contempt, rather than being used to explain a vision and build positivity. Still, a structure seems to have been put in place off field - let's see how it performs. This summer's aquisitions are reasonable, but not startling. I am not yet convinced, but 20 points from the first 10 games would signal that a corner has been turned and I, and I suspect many others, would consider returning.

fitz808 wrote:
i don't know how you lot have the energy, i really don't.
perfectly reasonable article and set of responses for those of us who live in the real world. seriously, are any of you expecting him to come out and say, "kean was poor last year, it is all his fault and he's got to get 10 wins in the first 10 games or he's out of here?"
he's not. kean remains our manager for the time being and you lot aren't coming to the games. ok, fair dos. let the rest of us move on please.
last year, we wouldn't have had this interview at all. that in itself is progress and long may it continue. if you don't like what you hear, fair enough. but it does seem like most of you will view the words through unfairly negative glasses to pick out the problems, just as i will do the opposite. once again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but let's just let them get on with trying to put things right.

The truth is not in the middle going off previous. I think you know that.

Unless you hadn't noticed, people don't hate their own team's controllers accidentally, most have been extreemly patient and forgiving whilst the destruction has been going on, some not so.

But out of all the predictions made by Kean, all have failed miseably, not half, fully
Yet he is still speaking about preparing for the Prem and no one says hang on how do you make that out you have been a failure and you have hardly improved, why does the club allow a loose cannon to bring the image down with missguided quotes?
Is he sole power?

fitz808 wrote:
i don't know how you lot have the energy, i really don't.
perfectly reasonable article and set of responses for those of us who live in the real world. seriously, are any of you expecting him to come out and say, "kean was poor last year, it is all his fault and he's got to get 10 wins in the first 10 games or he's out of here?"
he's not. kean remains our manager for the time being and you lot aren't coming to the games. ok, fair dos. let the rest of us move on please.
last year, we wouldn't have had this interview at all. that in itself is progress and long may it continue. if you don't like what you hear, fair enough. but it does seem like most of you will view the words through unfairly negative glasses to pick out the problems, just as i will do the opposite. once again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but let's just let them get on with trying to put things right.

fitz - i am not one that slags off those with an opposite view, but in reply to your answers.
1) kean has said one step back to take two forward
2) other teams are going to fear us in the championship this season
3) we are preparing to return to the premiership
4) hoilett may sign a new contract
5) we have only got one more signing to make - but we are woefully short on defenders, talk about papering over the cracks - colin hendry may end up playing nor coaching.
All of the above has been since we were relegated. I admire your optimism and blind faith - but have to question where your faith in the new regime comes from? what makes you think it is better - its the same nonsense soundbites and platitudes that were trotted out last season - only difference is that its not just kean spouting the rubbish this summer.
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i really hope you are right and i am wrong and we kean does a howard kendal and rise triumphantly - but when it was all t!ts before we got rid of iley and installed kendal, and more recently when kidd was plainly out of hs depth we put souness in so we could get back - this is not happening and shows no sign of happening.
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no shirt sponsor
mega low season ticket applications
players want away
empty corporate boxes
morale among ordinary staff at all time low
execs fried unceremoniously and without explanation
fan against fan
reserves playing behind closed doors
bloke who runs youth team goes to newcastle
scouts off to qpr
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i cannot go back to 1960 cup final - but it cannot have been worse than it is now.
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agnew goes on about saints - true they have risen, but as someone above states - it involved getting rid of the stupid incompetent regime of rupert lowe (?) and all associated with it - clue venkys and kean still very much in charge of our version of the titanic (which was apparently unsinkable).

Easy solution to get fans back
SACK KEEN
and I will be waiting for shop to open and get 2 season tickets one for me and one for wife

Easy solution to get fans back
SACK KEAN
and I will be waiting for shop to open and get 2 season tickets one for me and one for wife”

Vikings Rover wrote:
Prepare to be shocked again Mr Agnew and let's hope football as a whole is shocked again too come the 1st home game of the season when the attendance figure is published.

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"!.

The longer the present regime remains in charge the more precarious the CLUB'S future will be. The CLUB'S long term future is far more important than the short term performance of the 1st team.

STAY TOGETHER BRFC supporters and STAY AWAY until Mr Bean is sacked.

Staying away will prove to be the most effective action any supporter of the club can take to bring about change.

When we get Our Rovers Back then we can all get behind the team once again . . . . .

R.T.I.D

Here here

Sack Kean and I'll buy ten season tickets - even though I only need four.

Slight exaggeration, but you know what I mean...

Maybe it would be a better idea for everyone to attend the first game then stay at home for the remainder if we are crap than boycott the first game and hope Kean gets sacked.I think it will take 10 games for him to get sacked but with our current squad an ordinary manager could win that league.

Maybe it would be a better idea for everyone to attend the first game then stay at home for the remainder if we are crap than boycott the first game and hope Kean gets sacked.I think it will take 10 games for him to get sacked but with our current squad an ordinary manager could win that league.

So what your saying Agnew is, The fans caused us to go down!!!! not the very poor signings, the very poor tactics, not pushing out the good players we had, not the unrest caused by lies, what a joke! Agnew, well done and way to push the fans further away from the club!

Even more strong in saying i wont set foot in Ewood.

So mr Agnew u want to be transparent. Ok then Please explain the following :
1 - the footballing reason that Kean is still manager of our club by talking about hard facts, the results. ( u will probably have to talk waffle without actually answering the direct question as you have done above).
2 - explain every single transfer since Venky's and Kean came to the club and where all the money has gone ( in this I accept that it costs a lot of money to run a club)
3 - who is most important at the club , thousands of fans or a coach who is a very very poor manager ?
That's it. 3 questions.

It's simple really. Kean or fans.

The fans don't trust the ownership of the club and Keans involvement.

If you want your clean slate then we are prepared to give it another go but Kean must go first.

RTID

dear mr Agnew - just checked your assertion that we struggled in the relegation zone in 3 of the last 5 years. can i remend you that two of those years were kean years and the your numbers are not actually true.
11/12 - relegated 19th out of 20 - 6 points clear of safety (KEAN)
10/11 - 15th out of 20 - 4 points above drop zone (top half when kean took over) (KEAN/ALLARDYCE)
09/10 - 10th out 20 - 20 points clear of drop zone (ALLARDYCE)
08/09 - 15th out of 20 - 7 points clear of drop zone (ALLARDYCE/INCE)
07/08 - 7th out of 20 - 22 points clear of drop zone (HUGHES)

SO THAT IS THE LAST 5 SEASONS - if we remove Kean seasons from the sample we have 5 Kean free seasons to look at so lets take 06/07 and 05/06
06/07 10th out of 20 - 14 points clear of drop zone (HUGHES)
05/06 6th out of 20 - 29 points clear of drop zone (HUGHES)

So, Mr Agnew if you would like any help from me (or other rovers supporters) in understanding what has happened in recent seasons - i am happy to help.

Agnew obviously believes waffle beats facts, see above. Well we the fans can tell him it doesn't. If you can come up with 1 or more reasons why Kean should remain in post then please do. We wait with bated breathe.

Paul Agnew you are without a doubt a colmplete tosser, The only Rovers fan(so-called) that has crossed any line is you, you pathetic jumped up BS merchant, I wish upon you a serious dose of lifetime lasting Haemroids.

hasslem hasslem wrote:
dear mr Agnew - just checked your assertion that we struggled in the relegation zone in 3 of the last 5 years. can i remend you that two of those years were kean years and the your numbers are not actually true.
11/12 - relegated 19th out of 20 - 6 points clear of safety (KEAN)
10/11 - 15th out of 20 - 4 points above drop zone (top half when kean took over) (KEAN/ALLARDYCE)
09/10 - 10th out 20 - 20 points clear of drop zone (ALLARDYCE)
08/09 - 15th out of 20 - 7 points clear of drop zone (ALLARDYCE/INCE)
07/08 - 7th out of 20 - 22 points clear of drop zone (HUGHES)

SO THAT IS THE LAST 5 SEASONS - if we remove Kean seasons from the sample we have 5 Kean free seasons to look at so lets take 06/07 and 05/06
06/07 10th out of 20 - 14 points clear of drop zone (HUGHES)
05/06 6th out of 20 - 29 points clear of drop zone (HUGHES)

So, Mr Agnew if you would like any help from me (or other rovers supporters) in understanding what has happened in recent seasons - i am happy to help.

Now, you know the rules. You are not allowed to go back, you have to look forward, prepare for the Prem and all that.
The whole of staff likely to talk to press have been programmed to deflect critisism, and focus on the future or the unknown, they haven't failed at that yet.

Looking forward......Europe here we come 2013/14

Sacking Kean may not solve all the issues, but it’s a start. If the new directors want to instil confidence within the fan base, Kean has to go. The only reason other managers in the Prem backed him last year was because they knew that with him in place one of the relegation slots was already taken. Yes we the fans moan and groan but with good reason, all the board need do is look at the record of the person and work out just how many times BRFC where in a winning position with 10 minutes left, then this genius makes a tactical change, and we more often than not lost all three points. If we had converted just half of those matches we would still be in the Prem and not the chump. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt and say the team where just not fit enough to last the full 90, whose fault is that, yes just one man KEAN, get him out and get the trust of the fans now, and more importantly before we are in another relegation battle.

Sacking Kean may not solve all the issues, but it’s a start. If the new directors want to instil confidence within the fan base, Kean has to go. The only reason other managers in the Prem backed him last year was because they knew that with him in place one of the relegation slots was already taken. Yes we the fans moan and groan but with good reason, all the board need do is look at the record of the person and work out just how many times BRFC where in a winning position with 10 minutes left, then this genius makes a tactical change, and we more often than not lost all three points. If we had converted just half of those matches we would still be in the Prem and not the chump. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt and say the team where just not fit enough to last the full 90, whose fault is that, yes just one man KEAN, get him out and get the trust of the fans now, and more importantly before we are in another relegation battle.

“Q; Firstly your new title, operations director, can you tell the fans what that consists of?”

“A; I am challenged with the responsibility of directing the operations ........".

My heart sank from this point on.

A lot of double talk and apportioning blame to their predecessors as usual.

"It would be foolish to say that everything has been okay – that can never be the case after a club has been relegated".

But every man and his dog knew everything was not OK for a long time.

"I felt the level of hostility that got through to the pitch crossed the line on what might be considered acceptable"

"Relegation always bringing a negative reaction"

Why was there such a level of hostility d'you think? And if there was such hostility during the season, how does this fit in with your theory the unrest is all down to post-relegation depression?

Were all those protesters clairvoyant? Or could they perhaps just see what was blindingly obvious.

".....we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while. There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons...."

One of which was after the bumpkin you support so unswervingly had been in charge for only a matter of months; two games earlier and we would have gone down a year sooner. Nothing, but nothing, was more obvious than what happened was always going to happen.

And I thought we weren't supposed to looking back at the past. But, seeing as we are, when did we have to win on the last day to stay up during that period? When was the last time so many people knew we were doomed so early in a season?

That is the big difference.

Any club of our size can get relegated; it’s the law of the jungle. You obviously feel unhappy but usually can content youself, at least they gave it a go. The difference was we were taken down by the owners and their gross mismanagement of the club.

The suggestion relegation has been an inevitability is just another underhanded sleight on the people who had kept the club clear of relegation throughout the last decade, often by acting to put right what was wrong, even if it had been their decision that caused it.

"I have supported Rovers for 50 years and would never do anything that would affect my team’s chances of doing well.."

But you are willing to support and represent people who have destroyed a well run club which punched above it’s weight year on year. The most damaging thing you are doing is retaining the services of a team manager who has clearly shown he does not have the ability to do the job. It is not possible to have a more negative affect on “your team”.

"...football is an opinions game.."

Maybe so but when you can back them up with hard evidence it becomes a whole lot more straightforward. Purely on results alone, this man should not be anywhere near this football club. Nor should he have been for the last seven months - at least.

If you are going to learn from the past, then look at what happened with Brian Kidd or Paul Ince. They couldn't do the job, they got fired.

Just to make that clear for you;

They could not do the job, they got fired.

Learn from your mistakes!? The biggest one is still sitting in the manager's chair. But then your not going to try and get the man who got you your job fired are you? Not that you dare even suggest it. We all know what happens to dissenters now don't we? They suddenly become a financial burden and sadly have to be let go.

"...he has the backing of the owners as we all strive to make tomorrow better than yesterday..."

God help us all.

We dont believe you, you need more peoples

The PR onslaught has started.
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And still no one with the balls to really start AG- NEW and SHAW us how to do it and sack Kean.
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Not even Jack Walker would have considered himself bigger than the club but Kean does. One ounce of decency and he would walk. Never in the history of mankind have so many been sacrificed for one who offers nothing!
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34th...

And Agnew - what a load of waffle answers. Heard it for 20 months now and still think the same - Who is Kean and what has he ever achieved to deserve this job? NOWT!

WE DID NOT GO DOWN - - WE WERE TAKEN DOWN!!!

RUinsane wrote:
Can't believe he said we are going to learn from our mistakes and put it right.
Point A
If you employ uncle fester the cone collector as manager, you get relegated.
Point B
If you sell your best players, you get relegated.
Point C
If you let your experienced players go, you get relegated.
Point D
If you play lots of kids you get relegated
Point E
If you put a sheite team on the pitch whilst your experinced and better players are watching from the stands or in some cases the Dubai formula 1 circuit, you get relegated.
Point F
It you try and run a succesful premier league club like Tommy Balls shop outlet, you get relegated.
Point G
If you don't spend the money you gained from selling your best players on players of an equal cost, you slowly become sheiter and you get relegated.
So when you have learnt from these mistakes, Mr Agnew, can you please inform us because from where I'm looking, it seems like you have now lost the fans through talking utter bollax about your total disregard to any of the points listed above.
You and your cronies said we had an ageing squad that needed updating, you have now signed players older than the ones who left, and continue to scour the world for untried high risk signings which were your undoing last season.
Anything learnt? We have, if you go to the shop and the goods on display are shoddy, you take your custom elsewhere.

TOMMY BALL WAS GOOD TO THIS TOWN OK .

I don't know how anyone can take anything seriously after the first Question and Answer...

Q: Firstly your new title, operations director, can you tell the fans what that consists of?

A: I am challenged with the responsibility of directing the operations at BRFC on a day-to-day basis.

Its great to repeat the question as the answer, shame he didn't attempt that on the Steve Kean question!

bypass06 wrote:
I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that.

Is that a tongue twister?

What the hell is Agnew on about with this statement I can't understand one iota of it,another Bloody Idiot

Every day I say I'm not going to read this crap, then I read it and start pulling my hair out in utter frustration, which bloody planet do these people come from, Blackburn Rovers FC aren't going anywhere while Kean is manager, when are these thickos going to realise that, do we have to drop into Div 1 before the penny finally drops

juanbbien wrote:

bypass06 wrote:
I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that.

Is that a tongue twister?

What the hell is Agnew on about with this statement I can't understand one iota of it,another Bloody Idiot

Has he been talking to Eric Cantona?When the seagulls follow the trawler cr-p?

juanbbien wrote:

bypass06 wrote:
I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that.

Is that a tongue twister?

What the hell is Agnew on about with this statement I can't understand one iota of it,another Bloody Idiot

It means that when Rovers were playing well, everyone thought that the Rovers management/behind the scenes was also good. and Vice versa.
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So Agnew is implying that the management/behind the scenes was not good even when Rovers were in the top half of the table. But now the 'off the pitch' is great because he and Shaw and Venky's are here and that even if the football may be crap, they have a great management team, so there's no problem really. It's our perception that is the problem, that's all. Fans are all wrong and everything is really positive, so what problem?

Crow27 wrote:
'Clearly, there have been mistakes and misjudgements. Now it is how we all deal with the situation. I believe you have got to recognise where things went wrong, address the areas of concern, learn from mistakes and move on'.
Answer - Sack Steve Kean. How can anyone be in charge who has lost the club millions!?

'Coming up to date, we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons'.
True we have but we were making progress with Sam Alladyce and they sack him!

'Steve is fully aware of the need to get a winning team out on the pitch'.
Hopefully this means that if kean continues to perform poorly they will sack him and quick!

'I was recently speaking to a Southampton fan who told me they had successive relegations, were in danger of liquidation, with fans up in arms and nobody expected to renew their season tickets.
I think they are going to start next season with 32,000 seats sold. It can turn around – that’s clear from those examples'.
Forgot to mention the likes of Leeds Utd and Portsmouth!

'Investment is being made into the playing squad and that is great, although obviously there is always a balancing act to be struck'.
This reads we are buying players (Championship Players) and selling Premiership players!

Paul Agnew maybe a Rovers fan but he is just protecting his job! The best way for this lot is to remain quiet and go about there job in a professional manner - action speaks louder than words!

How very true.He should have been put straight with Cryer,by pointing out when they took over we were mid table,with a team capable of performing,and staying in the premier leagueWe all know what happened since.Sell the players (experienced),refuse to pick players(experienced)
N due to contract issues,and have a manager not knowing what to do. Now this so called manager is on a mission to bring in experienced players.He,s brain dead.Andy Cryer needs to ask the unansered questions when he has the opportunity,and not be led down the "in the past route"of not answering.

Agnew," we must lean by are mistakes." making Kean manager of BFC was a massive mistake, SO SACK HIM.!!!

1rover wrote:

RUinsane wrote:
Can't believe he said we are going to learn from our mistakes and put it right.
Point A
If you employ uncle fester the cone collector as manager, you get relegated.
Point B
If you sell your best players, you get relegated.
Point C
If you let your experienced players go, you get relegated.
Point D
If you play lots of kids you get relegated
Point E
If you put a sheite team on the pitch whilst your experinced and better players are watching from the stands or in some cases the Dubai formula 1 circuit, you get relegated.
Point F
It you try and run a succesful premier league club like Tommy Balls shop outlet, you get relegated.
Point G
If you don't spend the money you gained from selling your best players on players of an equal cost, you slowly become sheiter and you get relegated.
So when you have learnt from these mistakes, Mr Agnew, can you please inform us because from where I'm looking, it seems like you have now lost the fans through talking utter bollax about your total disregard to any of the points listed above.
You and your cronies said we had an ageing squad that needed updating, you have now signed players older than the ones who left, and continue to scour the world for untried high risk signings which were your undoing last season.
Anything learnt? We have, if you go to the shop and the goods on display are shoddy, you take your custom elsewhere.

TOMMY BALL WAS GOOD TO THIS TOWN OK .

Granted he was, but I was talking about Tommy Balls shop outlet, not the warehouse. The shop outlet descended in latter years to selling second hand worn out tied together rejects. A bit like what we will be left with when they've f@cked off. This policy resulted in Tommy Balls, the name of the company not the man, closing down. now, do you need to draw any comparisons from that outcome? Tommy Ball was a great man and a legend. Unfortunately that is what the company is now, a legend.

1. We will finish in the top half................
. Fail
2. We will win the Carling Cup................. Fail
3. Junior Hoilett will sign ....................
..... Fail
4. No way will we be relegated...........
.... Fail
5. We will be promoted............
............... ????

I think I know the outcome of that one too!

We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Until Kean has gone, I'm not coming back to Ewood.
Simple!

RUinsane wrote:

1rover wrote:

RUinsane wrote:
Can't believe he said we are going to learn from our mistakes and put it right.
Point A
If you employ uncle fester the cone collector as manager, you get relegated.
Point B
If you sell your best players, you get relegated.
Point C
If you let your experienced players go, you get relegated.
Point D
If you play lots of kids you get relegated
Point E
If you put a sheite team on the pitch whilst your experinced and better players are watching from the stands or in some cases the Dubai formula 1 circuit, you get relegated.
Point F
It you try and run a succesful premier league club like Tommy Balls shop outlet, you get relegated.
Point G
If you don't spend the money you gained from selling your best players on players of an equal cost, you slowly become sheiter and you get relegated.
So when you have learnt from these mistakes, Mr Agnew, can you please inform us because from where I'm looking, it seems like you have now lost the fans through talking utter bollax about your total disregard to any of the points listed above.
You and your cronies said we had an ageing squad that needed updating, you have now signed players older than the ones who left, and continue to scour the world for untried high risk signings which were your undoing last season.
Anything learnt? We have, if you go to the shop and the goods on display are shoddy, you take your custom elsewhere.

TOMMY BALL WAS GOOD TO THIS TOWN OK .

Granted he was, but I was talking about Tommy Balls shop outlet, not the warehouse. The shop outlet descended in latter years to selling second hand worn out tied together rejects. A bit like what we will be left with when they've f@cked off. This policy resulted in Tommy Balls, the name of the company not the man, closing down. now, do you need to draw any comparisons from that outcome? Tommy Ball was a great man and a legend. Unfortunately that is what the company is now, a legend.

THANK YOU . AND KEAN OUT AGNEW OUT ARE DAY WILL COME

P888HOW wrote:
Agnew," we must lean by are mistakes." making Kean manager of BFC was a massive mistake, SO SACK HIM.!!!

I think making him manager of BFC would be the best end for the ****!

Even if we were to believe for one miute that Venky's really want to make things right with the supporters they are wasting their time if they stick tpKean. He is a topcass failure who has ne evryting wrong. He will nver be anything other than a liability. The hostility at the first match , which will be directed at him and him only, will be awful to watch. No way forward with the fans until he goes.

So, slimebag, you thought last season was bad?

Wait until you see the reaction your like and Kean gets this coming season...

You're all in this for personal gain and care not one iota about our club.
If you have any self-worth or decently, resign immediately and take your bald weasel-like friend with you.

You are not welcome here and, trust me, my opinion is very much the opposite of the minority...

YOU LEARN AGNEW AND GET OUT OF ROVERS .

After reading this I think I'd prefer Steve Kean's inane ramblings. At least Kean is proven to an deluded alcoholic liar, what's Agnew's excuse? Oh yes, that's it, money money money.

If this joker thinks he can legitimise his position at our club by once again claiming to be a Rovers fan for 50 years he's got another thing coming. As Colin Hendry will soon find out, your past allegiance will count for nothing if you are working with and supporting the imposter that is Steve Kean. If you're with Kean and Venkys then you're sticking two fingers up at the supporters and this club's proud history. Its as simple as that. Agnew has made his choice.

This is part of a concerted propaganda campaign in a desperate last ditch attempt to boost ticket sales ahead of next season. This lot are fully aware of what kind of message it will send out if there are less than 10,000 turning up at Ewood and are trying to win people round the hard way, rather than doing the simple thing and sacking the imposter Kean. There's your magic wand Agnew. You can't use it because it was your mate Kean who appointed you, or at least got you the job by way of 'recommendation' to his friends in India. That means your nice new title, board position and 'power' is wholly dependent on Kean being happy. Thick as thieves the lot of them.

I'll wait and see how much 'investment' actually materializes first. We sold Samba for £10 million or more in February, Yakubu for £1 million last week and have so far spent a massive £3 million on Best. By my basic calculations a profit of at least £8 million since February alone. So much for 'splashing the cash' to get us promoted. Its all lies.

whappen wrote:
“Q; Firstly your new title, operations director, can you tell the fans what that consists of?”

“A; I am challenged with the responsibility of directing the operations ........".

My heart sank from this point on.

A lot of double talk and apportioning blame to their predecessors as usual.

"It would be foolish to say that everything has been okay – that can never be the case after a club has been relegated".

But every man and his dog knew everything was not OK for a long time.

"I felt the level of hostility that got through to the pitch crossed the line on what might be considered acceptable"

"Relegation always bringing a negative reaction"

Why was there such a level of hostility d'you think? And if there was such hostility during the season, how does this fit in with your theory the unrest is all down to post-relegation depression?

Were all those protesters clairvoyant? Or could they perhaps just see what was blindingly obvious.

".....we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while. There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons...."

One of which was after the bumpkin you support so unswervingly had been in charge for only a matter of months; two games earlier and we would have gone down a year sooner. Nothing, but nothing, was more obvious than what happened was always going to happen.

And I thought we weren't supposed to looking back at the past. But, seeing as we are, when did we have to win on the last day to stay up during that period? When was the last time so many people knew we were doomed so early in a season?

That is the big difference.

Any club of our size can get relegated; it’s the law of the jungle. You obviously feel unhappy but usually can content youself, at least they gave it a go. The difference was we were taken down by the owners and their gross mismanagement of the club.

The suggestion relegation has been an inevitability is just another underhanded sleight on the people who had kept the club clear of relegation throughout the last decade, often by acting to put right what was wrong, even if it had been their decision that caused it.

"I have supported Rovers for 50 years and would never do anything that would affect my team’s chances of doing well.."

But you are willing to support and represent people who have destroyed a well run club which punched above it’s weight year on year. The most damaging thing you are doing is retaining the services of a team manager who has clearly shown he does not have the ability to do the job. It is not possible to have a more negative affect on “your team”.

"...football is an opinions game.."

Maybe so but when you can back them up with hard evidence it becomes a whole lot more straightforward. Purely on results alone, this man should not be anywhere near this football club. Nor should he have been for the last seven months - at least.

If you are going to learn from the past, then look at what happened with Brian Kidd or Paul Ince. They couldn't do the job, they got fired.

Just to make that clear for you;

They could not do the job, they got fired.

Learn from your mistakes!? The biggest one is still sitting in the manager's chair. But then your not going to try and get the man who got you your job fired are you? Not that you dare even suggest it. We all know what happens to dissenters now don't we? They suddenly become a financial burden and sadly have to be let go.

"...he has the backing of the owners as we all strive to make tomorrow better than yesterday..."

God help us all.

Excellent post.

Was this really worth the cost of a flight to India for more of the same.

Try listening to supporters who have wasyed good money at Ewood over the last 18 months and then apportion blame for the clubs relegation

If its the supporters fault say so - we will stay away

If it is the Managers fault - do something before it is too late - like now

If it is Venkys incompetence tell them to sell up ASAP

What do you think Mr Agnew or are you too busy directing operations - does that include the Carparks?

How on earth can you back an imbecile drunken driver who berated sam in hong kong,when sam is light years above the idiot.

Yet more bul**** from Agnew,he is just preaching from Keans book of lies and rubbish.
Cant wait till Rochdale away to get the KEAN out chants going again,
they must think we are idiots.
KEAN /AGNEW/VENKYS/ANDERS
ON/ORR/BEST OUT!!!!!

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Oohh bet he is scared, gonna run him outta town are you cowboy?
You really are not well ..
Get a grip , siilllly man

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Oohh bet he is scared, gonna run him outta town are you cowboy?
You really are not well ..
Get a grip , siilllly man

Arthur Labore wrote:
Yet more bul**** from Agnew,he is just preaching from Keans book of lies and rubbish.
Cant wait till Rochdale away to get the KEAN out chants going again,
they must think we are idiots.
KEAN /AGNEW/VENKYS/ANDERS

ON/ORR/BEST OUT!!!!!

Are you Arthur Scargill?

Wild Rover wrote:

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Oohh bet he is scared, gonna run him outta town are you cowboy?
You really are not well ..
Get a grip , siilllly man

Venky's, Kean, Anderson, Agnew, Shabby Minge and co are the cowboys, and you're the siillllllllllllly man!

Love Rovers Hate Venkys wrote:

P888HOW wrote:
Agnew," we must lean by are mistakes." making Kean manager of BFC was a massive mistake, SO SACK HIM.!!!

I think making him manager of BFC would be the best end for the ****!

sorry guys BRFC who edits these posts?

jogalot wrote:

juanbbien wrote:

bypass06 wrote:
I believe that if the team is good and off the pitch is poor, off the pitch is considered to be good. Also, if the team is poor but off the pitch is good then off the pitch is considered to be poor. It is as simple as that.

Is that a tongue twister?

What the hell is Agnew on about with this statement I can't understand one iota of it,another Bloody Idiot

It means that when Rovers were playing well, everyone thought that the Rovers management/behind the scenes was also good. and Vice versa.
.
So Agnew is implying that the management/behind the scenes was not good even when Rovers were in the top half of the table. But now the 'off the pitch' is great because he and Shaw and Venky's are here and that even if the football may be crap, they have a great management team, so there's no problem really. It's our perception that is the problem, that's all. Fans are all wrong and everything is really positive, so what problem?

The team as been **** Poor by enlarge since this Bloody shower took over,shows what you know Agnew,mainly due to Keans inept coaching,substitutio
ns,transfer dealings,and management.they have ruined a decent club we can never forgive him and them.

dallarover wrote:
Its sad that its taken a relegation to see the need for a basic management structure and also for the need for experienced players after getting rid of most of the experience in the previous squad.

However, all that said, the biggest problem is still the Manager who has to date shown nothing to suggest he is good at any aspect of the Manager's job or that he can be a good Manager at any level. If we don't get off to a good start and are competing by the end of the first couple of months then I don't think they will be able to keep him.

Agnew is saying what he would be expected to say but I was annoyed by this statement "we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons". Thought this was a swipe at the previous regime and almost sounds like he's saying relegation was going to come anyway. Would still like someone to stand up and take responsibility for the problems over the last 18 months.

DR
Hovering is better than sinking right? If the owners had a clue 20 months ago even though a bottom 6 club, that is preferable to being in the Championship in my opinion, this league may be harder to get out of than they think

Wild Rover wrote:

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Oohh bet he is scared, gonna run him outta town are you cowboy?
You really are not well ..
Get a grip , siilllly man

Hi WR, everyone in here us saying similar things to me yet you have another pop, check your scores again mate, seems like people are getting bored with you, as I am!

Argument and debate I am up for, cheap shots are for children

GROW UP

I find the comments in this interview shallow, lacking in perception and patronising towards the fans. Just another Kean tactic of apportioning blame elsewhere. REgarding the question about Kean, Agnew couldnt even come up with any evidence of his aptitude as a manager which says it all. This has just strengthened mine and my familys resolve to stay away until the correct move is made towards building relations with the fans and moving the club forward - Kean sacked.

This League is a difficult place to fight for top 3 position. 46 matches, Players fitness is less in rovers when u consider experience line up like gomes, murphy, pedersen,dunn.

when u look at young players, they cannot run for 90 mts. See kean is driving on the edge with bullshiting owners , Kean dosen't have a quality 4 defenders(Orr,dunn,o
lsson,hanley are waste and not match fit after 4 games), then how he is going into a match for a good fight and get chean sheet.

stick to football wrote:
Was this really worth the cost of a flight to India for more of the same.

Try listening to supporters who have wasyed good money at Ewood over the last 18 months and then apportion blame for the clubs relegation

If its the supporters fault say so - we will stay away

If it is the Managers fault - do something before it is too late - like now

If it is Venkys incompetence tell them to sell up ASAP

What do you think Mr Agnew or are you too busy directing operations - does that include the Carparks?

If Kean and Agnew were to direct traffic on the car park there would be a major pile up! clueless the pair of em!!

stick to football wrote:
Was this really worth the cost of a flight to India for more of the same.

Try listening to supporters who have wasyed good money at Ewood over the last 18 months and then apportion blame for the clubs relegation

If its the supporters fault say so - we will stay away

If it is the Managers fault - do something before it is too late - like now

If it is Venkys incompetence tell them to sell up ASAP

What do you think Mr Agnew or are you too busy directing operations - does that include the Carparks?

If Kean and Agnew were to direct traffic on the car park there would be a major pile up! clueless the pair of em!!

ivegillian wrote:
Mr Agnew

You have missed - seemingly deliberately - the point.

It is far too easy to dodge a question by focussing on the 'future' when no one associated with the management of the club seem to have learnt from mistakes of the past - the multitude of mistakes that have been made since the club was sold.

The vast majority of supporters continue to be concerned by the lack of transparency and the continuing farce that is Mr Kean.

Admittedly relegation was an outcome of a combination of issues but Mr Kean should have taken his full share of responsibility and should have been dealt with accordingly.

Most of the Rovers supporters and probably most football supporters generally are staggered he is still in a job - of any kind - at the club and not just because he is our worst manager in living memory.

If at any point since he was appointed he had demonstrated any managerial quality he may just have gained a modicum of respect but he has not - apart from the ability to stand on the touchline absorbing a level of personal abuse I have never witnessed before at any football ground.

Some of this abuse was and continues to be distasteful but it reflects a level of complete and utter frustration with the overall situation that has developed since the club was sold and the very tarnished image it now projects across the world of football.

To many of us this 'tarnished image' continues to be personified by Mr Kean, the way in which he 'manages', the way in which he has conducted himself, the choice of players he has brought to the club and the absence of any form of denial that he is - in some way or other - exercising a level of control in the affairs of the club - way beyond both his ability and the role he is theoretically employed for but has singularly failed to deliver.

You are patronising us Mr Agnew, you are defending - and very poorly - an organisation and an individual that we do not trust - and which the vast majority of us will continue to distance ourselves from - until you or someone with an ounce of decency and an understanding of what a well managed football club looks like takes the necessary steps to start to rebuild some form of positive relationship with the many thousands of disgusted supporters who have no intention whatsoever of attending a game until these steps are taken.

Your comparison to Newcastle is farcical.

It was and is obvious who owns the club irrespective of what the supporters think of him.

They had a very decent man managing the team who behaved impeccably throughout - even after he was dismissed for gaining promotion for the club.

Football is more than a religion in Newcastle - I know I have lived and worked there - and 40000 supporters are generally guaranteed irrespective of team performance.

The previous highly respected management team
at Ewood worked extremely hard to build up and retain reasonable attendances,loyalty and goodwill but this has been put at jeopardy if not damaged beyond repair because of what has happened and the fact that - despite the overwhelming and contrary evidence that is staring you in the face - you seem to believe that you will be successful with Mr Kean in charge.

As stated Mr Agnew - stop patronising us.

Absolutely brilliantly put, I take my hat off to you!!

Please email or post this directly to Mr Agnew at BRFC, I wonder what the response would be?

Lancs - pensioner wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Oohh bet he is scared, gonna run him outta town are you cowboy?
You really are not well ..
Get a grip , siilllly man

Hi WR, everyone in here us saying similar things to me yet you have another pop, check your scores again mate, seems like people are getting bored with you, as I am!

Argument and debate I am up for, cheap shots are for children

GROW UP

What, like you? You use your multi id,s to post bogus votes to show how fed up you are with me and I am supposed to be impressed?
You post a comment trying to sound hard like John Wayne and I need to grow up
Best laugh I have had today and dont call me mate

champs95 wrote:

whappen wrote:
“Q; Firstly your new title, operations director, can you tell the fans what that consists of?”

“A; I am challenged with the responsibility of directing the operations ........".

My heart sank from this point on.

A lot of double talk and apportioning blame to their predecessors as usual.

"It would be foolish to say that everything has been okay – that can never be the case after a club has been relegated".

But every man and his dog knew everything was not OK for a long time.

"I felt the level of hostility that got through to the pitch crossed the line on what might be considered acceptable"

"Relegation always bringing a negative reaction"

Why was there such a level of hostility d'you think? And if there was such hostility during the season, how does this fit in with your theory the unrest is all down to post-relegation depression?

Were all those protesters clairvoyant? Or could they perhaps just see what was blindingly obvious.

".....we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while. There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons...."

One of which was after the bumpkin you support so unswervingly had been in charge for only a matter of months; two games earlier and we would have gone down a year sooner. Nothing, but nothing, was more obvious than what happened was always going to happen.

And I thought we weren't supposed to looking back at the past. But, seeing as we are, when did we have to win on the last day to stay up during that period? When was the last time so many people knew we were doomed so early in a season?

That is the big difference.

Any club of our size can get relegated; it’s the law of the jungle. You obviously feel unhappy but usually can content youself, at least they gave it a go. The difference was we were taken down by the owners and their gross mismanagement of the club.

The suggestion relegation has been an inevitability is just another underhanded sleight on the people who had kept the club clear of relegation throughout the last decade, often by acting to put right what was wrong, even if it had been their decision that caused it.

"I have supported Rovers for 50 years and would never do anything that would affect my team’s chances of doing well.."

But you are willing to support and represent people who have destroyed a well run club which punched above it’s weight year on year. The most damaging thing you are doing is retaining the services of a team manager who has clearly shown he does not have the ability to do the job. It is not possible to have a more negative affect on “your team”.

"...football is an opinions game.."

Maybe so but when you can back them up with hard evidence it becomes a whole lot more straightforward. Purely on results alone, this man should not be anywhere near this football club. Nor should he have been for the last seven months - at least.

If you are going to learn from the past, then look at what happened with Brian Kidd or Paul Ince. They couldn't do the job, they got fired.

Just to make that clear for you;

They could not do the job, they got fired.

Learn from your mistakes!? The biggest one is still sitting in the manager's chair. But then your not going to try and get the man who got you your job fired are you? Not that you dare even suggest it. We all know what happens to dissenters now don't we? They suddenly become a financial burden and sadly have to be let go.

"...he has the backing of the owners as we all strive to make tomorrow better than yesterday..."

God help us all.

Excellent post.

I'll second that.

The clean slate begins without me, and why ?

Simple......see post above.

Cracking.

And Agnew, I've supported BRFC for 40 years, and I have never wished any harm on my club, and by god, I have never done anything to harm it, just supported it through every lean, mean chuffing time.

Can you say the same ?

Get rid of the 'Odious One' - stop insulting my intelligence, and finally and most importantly the club that is BRFC. The image thus far created by those that have taken a merciless hand to BRFC is repugnant to say the least.

I have no confidence in the supposed manager in the slightest thus I will not attend owing to the fact my negative reactions toward my beloved club will not help in these days.

I wish my club the very best always, but while he remains I abstain. Simple.

Arte et labore

Bill Carson wrote:

ivegillian wrote:
Mr Agnew

You have missed - seemingly deliberately - the point.

It is far too easy to dodge a question by focussing on the 'future' when no one associated with the management of the club seem to have learnt from mistakes of the past - the multitude of mistakes that have been made since the club was sold.

The vast majority of supporters continue to be concerned by the lack of transparency and the continuing farce that is Mr Kean.

Admittedly relegation was an outcome of a combination of issues but Mr Kean should have taken his full share of responsibility and should have been dealt with accordingly.

Most of the Rovers supporters and probably most football supporters generally are staggered he is still in a job - of any kind - at the club and not just because he is our worst manager in living memory.

If at any point since he was appointed he had demonstrated any managerial quality he may just have gained a modicum of respect but he has not - apart from the ability to stand on the touchline absorbing a level of personal abuse I have never witnessed before at any football ground.

Some of this abuse was and continues to be distasteful but it reflects a level of complete and utter frustration with the overall situation that has developed since the club was sold and the very tarnished image it now projects across the world of football.

To many of us this 'tarnished image' continues to be personified by Mr Kean, the way in which he 'manages', the way in which he has conducted himself, the choice of players he has brought to the club and the absence of any form of denial that he is - in some way or other - exercising a level of control in the affairs of the club - way beyond both his ability and the role he is theoretically employed for but has singularly failed to deliver.

You are patronising us Mr Agnew, you are defending - and very poorly - an organisation and an individual that we do not trust - and which the vast majority of us will continue to distance ourselves from - until you or someone with an ounce of decency and an understanding of what a well managed football club looks like takes the necessary steps to start to rebuild some form of positive relationship with the many thousands of disgusted supporters who have no intention whatsoever of attending a game until these steps are taken.

Your comparison to Newcastle is farcical.

It was and is obvious who owns the club irrespective of what the supporters think of him.

They had a very decent man managing the team who behaved impeccably throughout - even after he was dismissed for gaining promotion for the club.

Football is more than a religion in Newcastle - I know I have lived and worked there - and 40000 supporters are generally guaranteed irrespective of team performance.

The previous highly respected management team
at Ewood worked extremely hard to build up and retain reasonable attendances,loyalty and goodwill but this has been put at jeopardy if not damaged beyond repair because of what has happened and the fact that - despite the overwhelming and contrary evidence that is staring you in the face - you seem to believe that you will be successful with Mr Kean in charge.

As stated Mr Agnew - stop patronising us.

Absolutely brilliantly put, I take my hat off to you!!

Please email or post this directly to Mr Agnew at BRFC, I wonder what the response would be?

Another quality item and i alsp tip my hat.

Wild Rover wrote:

Lancs - pensioner wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Oohh bet he is scared, gonna run him outta town are you cowboy?
You really are not well ..
Get a grip , siilllly man

Hi WR, everyone in here us saying similar things to me yet you have another pop, check your scores again mate, seems like people are getting bored with you, as I am!

Argument and debate I am up for, cheap shots are for children

GROW UP

What, like you? You use your multi id,s to post bogus votes to show how fed up you are with me and I am supposed to be impressed?
You post a comment trying to sound hard like John Wayne and I need to grow up
Best laugh I have had today and dont call me mate

That time of the month?

fitz808 wrote:
i don't know how you lot have the energy, i really don't.
perfectly reasonable article and set of responses for those of us who live in the real world. seriously, are any of you expecting him to come out and say, "kean was poor last year, it is all his fault and he's got to get 10 wins in the first 10 games or he's out of here?"
he's not. kean remains our manager for the time being and you lot aren't coming to the games. ok, fair dos. let the rest of us move on please.
last year, we wouldn't have had this interview at all. that in itself is progress and long may it continue. if you don't like what you hear, fair enough. but it does seem like most of you will view the words through unfairly negative glasses to pick out the problems, just as i will do the opposite. once again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but let's just let them get on with trying to put things right.

minority .

formerover wrote:
I to am part of the 80% if the club cared Kean would be sacked, no chance of me going back and watching painful displays of football and paying for the privlege, this man has helped me to almost hate the game I love, as for the new management they would make great politicans given all the crap they speak.

MAJORITY .

THANK YOU
andy cryer ,though we all knew it beforehand ,you have made agnew look a right pr!ck .
good questioning .

Wild Rover wrote:

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all no there is something going on down at Ewood Park, we can't prove (yet) but when we do Agnew you will be run out of town for being part of it, along with the rest of the people who are destroying out club.

Oohh bet he is scared, gonna run him outta town are you cowboy?
You really are not well ..
Get a grip , siilllly man

You really are a goon who is embarrassing yourself no end.

Dear Mr Agnew, you can win the EPL, F A Cup and Champios league but until Kean is gone my 20yr season ticket and car park ticket will be staying in my bank until BRSIT need it.

It is now time for you and the owners to listen to the majority of the fans and show them some respect, SACK KEAN and get the club back where it belongs.

To reply to some of those questions by implying Rovers fans won't be renewing due to relegation and who is on the fixture list or comparing us to Newcastle and Southampton shows just exactly the cynical issue deflecting of the club.

Nor do I understand a large amount of fans here saying "I'm not coming back 'til Kean goes" etc. as if he's the be all and end all at the club.

The contempt shown by the clubs owners towards the fans last season ought to be the reason they don't go this season. The refusal to legitimise a lying, secretive, shambolic, dysfunctional, inept regime ought to be the reason. The fight to GET OUR CLUB BACK ought to be the reason.

Mr Agnew, not a man of truth and principles are you? And I certainly hope I'm a better supporter than you!!

Truth as far as I see It, you are scared of following Hunt out the front door.....grow some balls man

It looks like we have got the owners worried, keep up the pressure! The future of our club is at stake.

RUinsane wrote:
Can't believe he said we are going to learn from our mistakes and put it right.
Point A
If you employ uncle fester the cone collector as manager, you get relegated.
Point B
If you sell your best players, you get relegated.
Point C
If you let your experienced players go, you get relegated.
Point D
If you play lots of kids you get relegated
Point E
If you put a sheite team on the pitch whilst your experinced and better players are watching from the stands or in some cases the Dubai formula 1 circuit, you get relegated.
Point F
It you try and run a succesful premier league club like Tommy Balls shop outlet, you get relegated.
Point G
If you don't spend the money you gained from selling your best players on players of an equal cost, you slowly become sheiter and you get relegated.
So when you have learnt from these mistakes, Mr Agnew, can you please inform us because from where I'm looking, it seems like you have now lost the fans through talking utter bollax about your total disregard to any of the points listed above.
You and your cronies said we had an ageing squad that needed updating, you have now signed players older than the ones who left, and continue to scour the world for untried high risk signings which were your undoing last season.
Anything learnt? We have, if you go to the shop and the goods on display are shoddy, you take your custom elsewhere.

Don't knock Tommy Balls, good shoes once the string breaks!

I reckon the Tommy Balls 2nd eleven of 1974 could beat us if Kean stays in charge. Agnew is quite patronising with his 'we have learned lessons' rhetoric. You cannot have learned much if you allow kean to continue as manager. It shows either a lack of the knowledge and understanding of football, or contempt for the views of those who until now have supported Rovers ( in some cases) for decades. Most supporters will not trust the venkys until he has gone. I find myself asking, Just how much 'hold' over the Owners has this snivelling little Scot got in order to be so 'unsackable'. It leaves a smell of corruption and self-interest that taints all aspects of Blackburn Rovers.... ironically, with the exception of the supporters. Get rid of Kean in order to stop the rot. Stop treating the Fans, those who genuinely care, like idiots. KEAN OUT!

"...we had been hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League table for a while. There had been a danger of relegation for three of the last five seasons...."

Two of which, as a fellow poster said, were under Kean's management.

Let's go back a little further shall we?

When Brian Kidd was manager, we got relegated.

When we were struggling to make an impact in the old 1st division, he was sacked and replaced by Graeme Souness who got us promoted, won a trophy and got us into the top half of the table.

We were struggling under him by the time Newcastle saved us the cost of paying him compensation. Mark Hughes came in, saved us from a potential relegation battle, had great success then understandably moved on to greener pastures.

Paul Ince was appointed; seemed adecent enough bet. he ahd served his apprenticship at MK Dons an dlooked a bright young manager. It didn't work out and we were struggling. He was sacked and replaced by Sam Allardyce who kept us in the Premier League and then a respectable mid table finish.

There is bit of a trend here;

Manager not doing well, team struggling, he is replaced, team survives and more often than not does well.

Kidd and Ince (and Ray Harford and Roy Hodgson before them) were sacked because they failed to do what was expected of them. Souness would have been but for Newcastle's intervention and Hughes went on to greemer pastures (following great success with us).

In short, when we were struggling, the club recognised there was a need for action and took it. Mostly it worked. They could not afford to buy their way out of trouble so they changed the man in charge. Who knows, they may even have learned from the past after giving Kidd a shed load of cash to spend without success.

So, we're struggling, manager changed, we're not struggling and never really "in danger of relegation". Did anyone here feel more or less confident after the manager was changed?

Kean is the only manager who has taken a side which is NOT struggling, got them relegated and still has his job.

"...I would never do anything that would affect my team’s chances of doing well"

Really? You are affecting our chances of doing anything, never mind well, as you speak.

BashirShah wrote:
Sorry, can someone explain what this means? "off the pitch is poor"?

my head hurts!

It should read pi$$ poor, no probs though we got comfy seats and hot pies.

I'm one of the minority 80% and will remain one until kean has been removed.

Kean out.

Another thing,

Brian Kidd apart, our final position may well have been "hovering around the bottom end of the Premier League" but under Souness, Hughes and Allardyce, even Hodgson initially, we were moving in the right direction.

And another thing.......

"It frustrated me at times in my previous role, that the manager had to take on responsibilities beyond what is usually expected of a manager.

At press conferences he was often put in a very difficult position as many of the questions were non football and applied to other areas.

There were times when the answer should have come from an official"

Nonsense. Rather than take the usual manager line of "I can't comment on the financial side of things" he was only too ready to apportion blame to Venkys' predecessors for the supposedpoor financial situation.

"we've become a selling club over the last ten years"

"we had to clear the debt"

"the club is in a better financial position"

How would he know these things?

And weren't you the Press Officer? Why didn't you put yourself forward to make these statements? Or suggest at the time it would be best if someone else did?

But of course you had absolutely no authority - understandable I suppose for a lowly Press Officer. Amazingly you are now "directing operations".

The first operation you need to direct is the removal of the unsightly growth on the face of Blackburn Rovers'.

Roverthere wrote:

RUinsane wrote:
Can't believe he said we are going to learn from our mistakes and put it right.
Point A
If you employ uncle fester the cone collector as manager, you get relegated.
Point B
If you sell your best players, you get relegated.
Point C
If you let your experienced players go, you get relegated.
Point D
If you play lots of kids you get relegated
Point E
If you put a sheite team on the pitch whilst your experinced and better players are watching from the stands or in some cases the Dubai formula 1 circuit, you get relegated.
Point F
It you try and run a succesful premier league club like Tommy Balls shop outlet, you get relegated.
Point G
If you don't spend the money you gained from selling your best players on players of an equal cost, you slowly become sheiter and you get relegated.
So when you have learnt from these mistakes, Mr Agnew, can you please inform us because from where I'm looking, it seems like you have now lost the fans through talking utter bollax about your total disregard to any of the points listed above.
You and your cronies said we had an ageing squad that needed updating, you have now signed players older than the ones who left, and continue to scour the world for untried high risk signings which were your undoing last season.
Anything learnt? We have, if you go to the shop and the goods on display are shoddy, you take your custom elsewhere.

Don't knock Tommy Balls, good shoes once the string breaks!

If you asked them nicely they would put you longer strings in then you didn't keep falling over.

Kean out.

Football is not an "opinion" game, Agnew, it is a "fact" game.
Rovers were demoted because they were a poor team and Kean is a bad manager, those are facts, not opinions.

At last a few words from the 'silent one' - just words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
Learn from mistakes - what a joke and still no apology to the fans for there abysmal actions both on and off the park - Agnew is a disgrace like the rest of them.
OUT WITH KEAN AGNEW SINGH VENKYS

"As I said earlier, we must be realistic at all times. Yes, we will have to win people back to Ewood.

To try to do that before a ball is kicked is going to be difficult for whatever we say and do between now and August 18, everything ultimately rests on results from that afternoon and beyond."

You can't argue with that.

If the results are not good enough (1 points from the first six games) Kean must go.

Ooops - bit generous to Stevie Boy there....

Should have read....

"As I said earlier, we must be realistic at all times. Yes, we will have to win people back to Ewood.

To try to do that before a ball is kicked is going to be difficult for whatever we say and do between now and August 18, everything ultimately rests on results from that afternoon and beyond."

You can't argue with that.

If the results are not good enough (12 points from the first six games) Kean must go.”

P888HOW wrote:
Agnew," we must lean by are mistakes." making Kean manager of BFC was a massive mistake, SO SACK HIM.!!!

making kean manager of BFC would be great!

reiko082 wrote:
To reply to some of those questions by implying Rovers fans won't be renewing due to relegation and who is on the fixture list or comparing us to Newcastle and Southampton shows just exactly the cynical issue deflecting of the club.

Nor do I understand a large amount of fans here saying "I'm not coming back 'til Kean goes" etc. as if he's the be all and end all at the club.

The contempt shown by the clubs owners towards the fans last season ought to be the reason they don't go this season. The refusal to legitimise a lying, secretive, shambolic, dysfunctional, inept regime ought to be the reason. The fight to GET OUR CLUB BACK ought to be the reason.

some good points here it is alot deeper than just kean!

benal13 wrote:

reiko082 wrote:
To reply to some of those questions by implying Rovers fans won't be renewing due to relegation and who is on the fixture list or comparing us to Newcastle and Southampton shows just exactly the cynical issue deflecting of the club.

Nor do I understand a large amount of fans here saying "I'm not coming back 'til Kean goes" etc. as if he's the be all and end all at the club.

The contempt shown by the clubs owners towards the fans last season ought to be the reason they don't go this season. The refusal to legitimise a lying, secretive, shambolic, dysfunctional, inept regime ought to be the reason. The fight to GET OUR CLUB BACK ought to be the reason.

some good points here it is alot deeper than just kean!

Yes a lot deeper than Kean. The whole structure of the club has been destroyed and replaced with inferior, unproven and previously failed people. Why, why, why, should be the question? If the owners could not support the club at its previous level they should be upfront and say this. We are all fed up of bullshxt and promises by these arrogant owners and thier stooges.

Roverthere wrote:

benal13 wrote:

reiko082 wrote:
To reply to some of those questions by implying Rovers fans won't be renewing due to relegation and who is on the fixture list or comparing us to Newcastle and Southampton shows just exactly the cynical issue deflecting of the club.

Nor do I understand a large amount of fans here saying "I'm not coming back 'til Kean goes" etc. as if he's the be all and end all at the club.

The contempt shown by the clubs owners towards the fans last season ought to be the reason they don't go this season. The refusal to legitimise a lying, secretive, shambolic, dysfunctional, inept regime ought to be the reason. The fight to GET OUR CLUB BACK ought to be the reason.

some good points here it is alot deeper than just kean!

Yes a lot deeper than Kean. The whole structure of the club has been destroyed and replaced with inferior, unproven and previously failed people. Why, why, why, should be the question? If the owners could not support the club at its previous level they should be upfront and say this. We are all fed up of bullshxt and promises by these arrogant owners and thier stooges.

More of the same. Better players going and replaced by inferior ones, Murphy excepted IMO. Unrest in pre-season. The farce continues.

I watch football for enjoyment. This lot running the club have now taken that away.

Good luck to those who can stomach it this season, I can't, but will be back when I can see the people who run the club are genuine and have it's best interests at heart.

ivegillian wrote:
Mr Agnew

You have missed - seemingly deliberately - the point.

It is far too easy to dodge a question by focussing on the 'future' when no one associated with the management of the club seem to have learnt from mistakes of the past - the multitude of mistakes that have been made since the club was sold.

The vast majority of supporters continue to be concerned by the lack of transparency and the continuing farce that is Mr Kean.

Admittedly relegation was an outcome of a combination of issues but Mr Kean should have taken his full share of responsibility and should have been dealt with accordingly.

Most of the Rovers supporters and probably most football supporters generally are staggered he is still in a job - of any kind - at the club and not just because he is our worst manager in living memory.

If at any point since he was appointed he had demonstrated any managerial quality he may just have gained a modicum of respect but he has not - apart from the ability to stand on the touchline absorbing a level of personal abuse I have never witnessed before at any football ground.

Some of this abuse was and continues to be distasteful but it reflects a level of complete and utter frustration with the overall situation that has developed since the club was sold and the very tarnished image it now projects across the world of football.

To many of us this 'tarnished image' continues to be personified by Mr Kean, the way in which he 'manages', the way in which he has conducted himself, the choice of players he has brought to the club and the absence of any form of denial that he is - in some way or other - exercising a level of control in the affairs of the club - way beyond both his ability and the role he is theoretically employed for but has singularly failed to deliver.

You are patronising us Mr Agnew, you are defending - and very poorly - an organisation and an individual that we do not trust - and which the vast majority of us will continue to distance ourselves from - until you or someone with an ounce of decency and an understanding of what a well managed football club looks like takes the necessary steps to start to rebuild some form of positive relationship with the many thousands of disgusted supporters who have no intention whatsoever of attending a game until these steps are taken.

Your comparison to Newcastle is farcical.

It was and is obvious who owns the club irrespective of what the supporters think of him.

They had a very decent man managing the team who behaved impeccably throughout - even after he was dismissed for gaining promotion for the club.

Football is more than a religion in Newcastle - I know I have lived and worked there - and 40000 supporters are generally guaranteed irrespective of team performance.

The previous highly respected management team
at Ewood worked extremely hard to build up and retain reasonable attendances,loyalty and goodwill but this has been put at jeopardy if not damaged beyond repair because of what has happened and the fact that - despite the overwhelming and contrary evidence that is staring you in the face - you seem to believe that you will be successful with Mr Kean in charge.

As stated Mr Agnew - stop patronising us.

Pure quality!

The awful manager is preventing many fans from attending home games. Not just his lack of ability, but his general demeanour and attitude. In truth,it is very difficult to find anything good about the man. It will be positive to have enhanced support at away games and I personally am looking forward to them. But, at the present time and basically since we were shafted by the agency and Keane, Ewood has a very bad smell and it isn't nice going down. Get rid now and start to move forward : we will have to eventually, why wait ?

Who's not going because were in the championship and not just hiding behind the until Kean/Venkys go statement, be honest.

R0BB0 wrote:
we all know Kean is the problem here right ? were just goin to have to deal with it... he will not stop me going to Ewood... do you think he cares weather you go or not ? get your ticket and support our boys is my call... your all entitled to do what you feel best for your club but in all honestly and in my opinion, staying away is only hurting the team, not the owners, they genuinly are not that bothered that you dont go to ewood

If the owners are not bothered if we go or not, then they are taking the fans for granted and that just hardens my resolve to stay away.

That's all very welll. But the biggest mistake Venky' made was Steve Kean and he is still with us. So that means, Mr. Agnew, that Veky's have not learnt anything from their mistakes.

I stopped taking him seriously when he referred to "Uniteds and Liverpools"

Stop talking like a club manager.


"Personally, I felt the level of hostility that got through to the pitch crossed the line on what might be considered acceptable."

No it's not, we pay a small fortune for season tickets and don't expect to be treated with contempt by being frisked upon entry to Ewood. (away fans don't get frisked). We want Kean out, he's a f@cking reptilian chancer.

Even the national press, after barracking Rovers fans for most of last season for the "abuse" of Kean (if it were united and Glazer, this would be labelled as a "protest".

Steve (four professional games to my name) Kean needs to go.

Rovers are offering great cost-cutting deals to hospitality customers next season - with savings of up to 40% on last term. Its getting desperate !!!

Strogbow wrote:
Who's not going because were in the championship and not just hiding behind the until Kean/Venkys go statement, be honest.

I'm not going because of all the lies from the owners and Kean. Did you read their mission statement after buying the club?

When they start being honest and keeping to the promises they made and stop treating the fans with contempt, and like something on the bottom of their shoe, I might just consider going again.

When they stop selling our better players and replacing them with inferior ones, I might consider going again.

When they start putting IN, the £5 million per transfer window, like they said they would instead of taking money OUT, I might consider going again.

When they employ a proper football manager instead of a coach without a clue, I might consider going again.

I could go on and on but it's all been said before. Those that don't agree, it's their prerogative, but I can see the full picture rather than those who close their eyes and see only what they want to see.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Strogbow wrote:
Who's not going because were in the championship and not just hiding behind the until Kean/Venkys go statement, be honest.

I'm not going because of all the lies from the owners and Kean. Did you read their mission statement after buying the club?

When they start being honest and keeping to the promises they made and stop treating the fans with contempt, and like something on the bottom of their shoe, I might just consider going again.

When they stop selling our better players and replacing them with inferior ones, I might consider going again.

When they start putting IN, the £5 million per transfer window, like they said they would instead of taking money OUT, I might consider going again.

When they employ a proper football manager instead of a coach without a clue, I might consider going again.

I could go on and on but it's all been said before. Those that don't agree, it's their prerogative, but I can see the full picture rather than those who close their eyes and see only what they want to see.

Your not going because weve dropped out of the premiership and when/if things change for the better please dont come back.

Strogbow wrote:
Who's not going because were in the championship and not just hiding behind the until Kean/Venkys go statement, be honest.

Idiot.

Clearly not a Rovers fan or you wouldn't come out with such nonsense.

DanBlackburn wrote:

Strogbow wrote:
Who's not going because were in the championship and not just hiding behind the until Kean/Venkys go statement, be honest.

Idiot.

Clearly not a Rovers fan or you wouldn't come out with such nonsense.

Hmmm! another fair weather fan.

The interview was nowhere near aggressive enough. Why do interviewers pussyfoot around their subject, afraid of upsetting them. Bring Jeremy Paxman in, he'll get to the bottom of it.

Rubbish journalism - ask him why Kean wasn't sacked!!!!!!!!!!!

Agnew - another clueless puppet - disgraceful.

Its about the cash - pure and simple. We're not stupid and you get none of mine until you're all gone!