Gallacher hails Rovers’ swoop for striker Leon Best (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Overall a very good signing - he will score goals at this level although he has been injury prone throughout his carreer so it just depends on how many games we can get out of him over the next few seasons - if he stays injury free he'll be a big hit.
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As for the 2 Portugese players - when are we ever going to learn ?? - don't expect too much - one is very very young and has not been snapped up by bigger and better clubs than Rovers and even if he turns out to be a good player, that will most probably be in a few seasons time. The other (Nunes) was a very good player (5-10 years ago) but is 36 this week and you wouldnt really expect him to shine in the rough and tumble of the Championship. Lets not kid ourselves here, he is coming to Rovers, and the cold and bad weather of the north west for one reason and one reason only - one last payday.

Nothing makes any difference. It does not matter how good or bad the players are with Kean in charge it will be no different than last year. He paid good money for Goodwillie, who scored most times he got on the pitch. But Kean would not give him a full game. On these pages we have had one or two people saying that Kean will be judged and sacked if he does not measure up in the early season. That can only be wishfull thinking. Venky's see him as the only constant at Ewood, everybody else will get the blame and they will sack anyone who dares to question their pet manager, just like last year.

At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Rover Pete wrote:
Nothing makes any difference. It does not matter how good or bad the players are with Kean in charge it will be no different than last year. He paid good money for Goodwillie, who scored most times he got on the pitch. But Kean would not give him a full game. On these pages we have had one or two people saying that Kean will be judged and sacked if he does not measure up in the early season. That can only be wishfull thinking. Venky's see him as the only constant at Ewood, everybody else will get the blame and they will sack anyone who dares to question their pet manager, just like last year.

Why aren't they just sacking him now though? Why is he getting any extra time? In the world of football management it's bizarre beyond belief.

Everyone can see the fans aren't happy, and everyone can see the reason why.

Why are the Venkys throwing money at new players therefore when they could spend just a fraction of that to sack Kean, and then see season tickets rocket? Plus then it would show there is nothing silly going on.

Why aren't the Venkys doing this? Why are they instead spending a fortune to desperately keep Kean?

Why?

Venkys have told us they have realised their mistakes, in which case, why is Steve Kean still at the club?

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Overall a very good signing - he will score goals at this level although he has been injury prone throughout his carreer so it just depends on how many games we can get out of him over the next few seasons - if he stays injury free he'll be a big hit.
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As for the 2 Portugese players - when are we ever going to learn ?? - don't expect too much - one is very very young and has not been snapped up by bigger and better clubs than Rovers and even if he turns out to be a good player, that will most probably be in a few seasons time. The other (Nunes) was a very good player (5-10 years ago) but is 36 this week and you wouldnt really expect him to shine in the rough and tumble of the Championship. Lets not kid ourselves here, he is coming to Rovers, and the cold and bad weather of the north west for one reason and one reason only - one last payday.

wow that was very constuctive for you j.c i knew you had more about you!I think gomes is the one turning 36 though, you still think we will end up like leeds, portsmouth etc i think not even with steve kean in charge.

we all know kean should have gone 12 months ago but saying that he doesnt stand much chance staying if we lose alot now spending venky's cash low gates no sky money

roverswiss - don't know if you got to see rovers live much last season but have to say you are incredibly selective in your assessment of rovers last season.
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heroic win against united - possibly...but how kean milked that for the resto f the season when he was doing his "look i can walk on water" impression - because of that we were going to win at chelsea and spuds (no shot in 90 minutes).
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you say our attacking play was good - well yakubu is gone and hoilett has practically gone.
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when jordan slew arrived - he was left in the blues bar all day with none of kean's mob even speaking to him.
we had rochina playing great against united and then practically didnt play him for the rest of the season.
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abysmal defensive performances throughout last season when the inevitable cave in came (eg sunderland, city, norwich, villa etc)

we were already effectively relegated when the kean out, venkys out stuff started against wigan. the other two games where kean out was prevalent was arsenal (win) and swansea (win).

i have to say that given the poison of kean and venkys in the last 20 months that the atmosphere that i experienced was amazingly positive (in the circumstances).
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you say he will be judged on results - well, he hasn't been so far, so why will this season be any different? he maight not be able to use the excuse of not having a squad good enough ofr the championship - but he will find a way. remember last season "judge me at the end of the transfer window... this is my squad... top ten finish... league cup win... no way will we get relegated... we can win at spuds... nobody saw relegation, its a complete shock... one step back to take two forward".
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Kean is:
1) a drunk (convicted)
2) a liar (judge said in court)
3) incompetent (results prove)
4) deluded (see above quotes)

and you think we should get behind him. i hate to say it but best thing that could happen is for us to get beat heavily in first two games and then this will force him out and give us enough time to pull it together over the rest of the season. never wanted rovers to get beat before - but if short term pain results in long term gain, then so be it.

on the subject of best - on the surface an encouraging signing. i seem to recall him scoring a quality brace for barcodes last season.
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however, the mood music coming out of newcastle from their supporters hardly seems to be weeping and wailing. normally the "jocks with no brains" revere big centre forwards and are only indifferent if they are 1) a bit rubbish, or 2) lazy or disruptive troublemakers...gall
y's "If Rovers can get him in the right frame of mind, then I’m sure they have got themselves a good player." suggests that he may be a bit difficult. hope i am wrong.

We cannot knock Kean for Murphy and Best I would have gone for them.The Portugese lads are much more difficult to assess as we dont really know them I always feel safer buying players we know or getting loan players from big clubs.We could end up with too many players not even getting a game unless we sell last seasons signings at a loss.Rochina,Formica
,Petrovic etc etc maybe Goodwillie is worth a gamble but he needs to start playing with his head up he always runs with it down why has that not been coached out of him?

Anyhow with a new manager we would be up there easily with our squad but who can see Mr Kean the tactical incompetent getting us up there?

Hasslem's verdict is far more valid than that of Roverswiss. And I agree that perhaps only really heavy defeats will eventually force Venkys hand to get rid of the backstabber.
But I wish Hasslem would stick to footballing matters and get off his high horse. Never been drunk? Never told lies? You will be telling us you do not break wind next.

RoversSwiss wrote:
At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Positive, positive, positive. Last season had many positives. One step backwards, two forwards. You sound like someone we know. He still hasn't apologised for relegation either.

It's funny because I've not heard of one person not renewing because of "the terrible atmosphere in the ground", but I've heard thousands and thousands who haven't because of Steve Kean still being around.

When the fans are ignored for so long, then of course the atmosphere is terrible. The whole town is depressed in case you hadn't noticed.

Steve Kean, and presumably the Venkys, blamed the fans last season too. I see you are still doing that now. What a disgrace.

You are right to say that results do normally get a manager sacked. That's the massive problem the fans have. What is Steve Kean still doing around because his results have been abysmal? No other club in football history has kept a manager on for so long with such bad results.

So why is Steve Kean still here? His presence is having a terrible long term effect on Rovers, so why won't the owners get rid?

It literally makes no sense from a financial, or football, or moral sense to sick with Kean, but that's exactly what the Venkys are doing. Why?

I hesitate to make a positive point re Mr Kean, as he really has done a poor job at Rovers and has embarrassed himself with some of the comments and predictions.
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It seems to be however, that he is picking these players and has decent relationships with them.
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It definitely looked like his previous signings were all just thrust upon him and that his hands were tied in the situations with such as Nelsen, Roberts, Samba.
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...or of course, it could be that the club are just giving us some good news before telling us some more bad!!

Hate to appear negative, but in his last full Championship season he scored 4 goals in 35 apps. The same as Scott Dann did that season, for the same club (although it's unclear which end Dann scored at)

Again, I'm not being negative, but I just don't see how Danny Murphy, Leon Best and Nuno Gomez are going to solve all the problems at Rovers? Afterall, people thought we were going to be safe when we beat Arsenal last season...

Haslem haslem - totally agree with your comments - spot on!!!!!
Others like swiss swiss have short memories or more money than sense - considering the performance of Kean/Players last season I think the few faithful were very supportive of the team - regarding the poor atmosphere at the ground the people responsible for this are Kean and the Venkys so dont loose sight of this - and for god's sake dont start giving Kean any support he and the rest of the idiotic Management team have ruined our once proud club and set supporter against supporter!!
OUT WITH KEAN AGNEW VENKYS

Just for one moment imagine Kean got us promoted, (not very likely I admit). But if he did it would make him a good Championship manager in the eyes of Venky's. No chance of him being sacked then.
But the following season we would be back in the PL still with Kean. His pre season signings would be up to his usual standard. He would start the season as per usual and still he would not have been sacked the merry o round would start again. Defeats, Kean out chants and another season ruined.

jeppo wrote:
I hesitate to make a positive point re Mr Kean, as he really has done a poor job at Rovers and has embarrassed himself with some of the comments and predictions.
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It seems to be however, that he is picking these players and has decent relationships with them.
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It definitely looked like his previous signings were all just thrust upon him and that his hands were tied in the situations with such as Nelsen, Roberts, Samba.
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...or of course, it could be that the club are just giving us some good news before telling us some more bad!!

Since when were inexperienced managers given chance after chance after chance though, each time with their excuses readily accepted?

This is football management not a school project.

In football, you don't constantly accept excuses, and then sack the whole team, to suit a badly performing manager, you sack the manager.

Bazzer wrote:
Hasslem's verdict is far more valid than that of Roverswiss. And I agree that perhaps only really heavy defeats will eventually force Venkys hand to get rid of the backstabber.
But I wish Hasslem would stick to footballing matters and get off his high horse. Never been drunk? Never told lies? You will be telling us you do not break wind next.

bazzer - course i have been drunk - but i NEVER drink and drive.
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Course i have told porkies - but never to been arrested and thus told porkies to a copper in a statement.
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the liar and drunk stuff is of importance to how the club is run on an ongoing basis. just look at some of the stuff he had said last season. it compromises the club's relationship with its supporters (eg cardiff quarter final) - so, it is relevant.
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and as for never passing wind. i am afraid that i cannot tell you that....but iat least i don't use my backside to talk out of, unlike our great leader

Another day, another article and same old conversations... sigh.

Kevin, I have a great respect for you, I think you should put your opinions where your mouth is and approach Venky's for an assistant managers role at least. If we can't get rid of Baldy, at least having someone with your wisdom advising him could produce the results we crave.

RoversSwiss wrote:
At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

In some ways I agree, but in others I can't get my head around the points. If fans were to blame why were my two best home matches last season Arsenal and Swansea, where despite the nasty "Kean Out" songs an atmosphere was created and the players lived up to the pressure.

If the club want a fresh start to the season remove the danger of a negative atmosphere, replace the manager. Its a simple yet effective method seen at football clubs throughout the country when a fanbase has lost confidence in his abilities.

Let's get one thing straight, once and for all. The FANS are in NO way responsible for the state of affairs at the Rovers.
They cannot be blamed for any of the goings on there. Their only interest is seeing the survival of the club sooner rather than later, by any means at their disposal.

hasslem hasslem wrote:
roverswiss - don't know if you got to see rovers live much last season but have to say you are incredibly selective in your assessment of rovers last season.
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heroic win against united - possibly...but how kean milked that for the resto f the season when he was doing his "look i can walk on water" impression - because of that we were going to win at chelsea and spuds (no shot in 90 minutes).
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you say our attacking play was good - well yakubu is gone and hoilett has practically gone.
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when jordan slew arrived - he was left in the blues bar all day with none of kean's mob even speaking to him.
we had rochina playing great against united and then practically didnt play him for the rest of the season.
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abysmal defensive performances throughout last season when the inevitable cave in came (eg sunderland, city, norwich, villa etc)

we were already effectively relegated when the kean out, venkys out stuff started against wigan. the other two games where kean out was prevalent was arsenal (win) and swansea (win).

i have to say that given the poison of kean and venkys in the last 20 months that the atmosphere that i experienced was amazingly positive (in the circumstances).
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you say he will be judged on results - well, he hasn't been so far, so why will this season be any different? he maight not be able to use the excuse of not having a squad good enough ofr the championship - but he will find a way. remember last season "judge me at the end of the transfer window... this is my squad... top ten finish... league cup win... no way will we get relegated... we can win at spuds... nobody saw relegation, its a complete shock... one step back to take two forward".
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Kean is:
1) a drunk (convicted)
2) a liar (judge said in court)
3) incompetent (results prove)
4) deluded (see above quotes)

and you think we should get behind him. i hate to say it but best thing that could happen is for us to get beat heavily in first two games and then this will force him out and give us enough time to pull it together over the rest of the season. never wanted rovers to get beat before - but if short term pain results in long term gain, then so be it.

Thanks Hasslem you stopped me replying to Roverswiss ir should I say Steve!

JASON WILCOX .STEVE KEAN IS A AQUALITY COACH AND NOW IS THE TIME TO PROVE ALLHIS CRITICS WRONG AND GUIDE ROVERS BACK TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE.

hasslem hasslem wrote:
roverswiss - don't know if you got to see rovers live much last season but have to say you are incredibly selective in your assessment of rovers last season.
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heroic win against united - possibly...but how kean milked that for the resto f the season when he was doing his "look i can walk on water" impression - because of that we were going to win at chelsea and spuds (no shot in 90 minutes).
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you say our attacking play was good - well yakubu is gone and hoilett has practically gone.
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when jordan slew arrived - he was left in the blues bar all day with none of kean's mob even speaking to him.
we had rochina playing great against united and then practically didnt play him for the rest of the season.
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abysmal defensive performances throughout last season when the inevitable cave in came (eg sunderland, city, norwich, villa etc)

we were already effectively relegated when the kean out, venkys out stuff started against wigan. the other two games where kean out was prevalent was arsenal (win) and swansea (win).

i have to say that given the poison of kean and venkys in the last 20 months that the atmosphere that i experienced was amazingly positive (in the circumstances).
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you say he will be judged on results - well, he hasn't been so far, so why will this season be any different? he maight not be able to use the excuse of not having a squad good enough ofr the championship - but he will find a way. remember last season "judge me at the end of the transfer window... this is my squad... top ten finish... league cup win... no way will we get relegated... we can win at spuds... nobody saw relegation, its a complete shock... one step back to take two forward".
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Kean is:
1) a drunk (convicted)
2) a liar (judge said in court)
3) incompetent (results prove)
4) deluded (see above quotes)

and you think we should get behind him. i hate to say it but best thing that could happen is for us to get beat heavily in first two games and then this will force him out and give us enough time to pull it together over the rest of the season. never wanted rovers to get beat before - but if short term pain results in long term gain, then so be it.

...and so the dilemma continues.
We're back to Norwich away again,hoping it will be the final nail.
How short is short term?Will we still be hoping for defeats at xmas?
We can't afford a continuation of last season.
At least there actually seems to be some kind of structure in place to sack him this season.
Got a feeling Singh might turn out to be the smiling assissin if a good start isn't achieved.

Not sure about new Yakubu. Could be the new Marcus Bent! We badly need an experienced centre half to replace Givet who will leave soon. Andy O'Briens on a free!!!

I must say I agree a lot with Haslem but we have to start being a little more positive and stop slagging each other off.
My worry with all these signings is not one is a
defender and ours was shocking last season. We need, as we have for the last two seasons, at least two pacy defenders and a good solid defensive midfielder. URGENTLY

He's working on the premise, attack is the best form of defence. We are going to win all games. 6. 5.

Perhaps he will be "creating space" for Goodwillie?

midas wrote:
Perhaps he will be "creating space" for Goodwillie?

Yeh! There's a space behind him on the touch line.

RoversSwiss wrote:
At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Sorry to say, the atmosphere will not change while the (Man who can not win) Kean is there. No fans and no atmosphere. When will they (Venky's) learn. Regarding a decent challenge I will reserve judgement until once we finally know who is staying and who is off. Early days with plenty of time for Venky's and Kean to screw things up before we kick a ball! KEAN OUT, KEAN OUT

RoversSwiss wrote:
At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

So you've managed to find virtually the only two performances from last season that supporters could be pleased with. For the win at Man Utd I remember Cardiff away in the cup. That evens it out. United was one exceptionally good performance and result. Cardiff was one exceptionally bad performance and result.

When will people learn? Kean can and will find an excuse for his failures for ever and ever. That is what snakes like him do. He knows he is a failure as both a manager and a human being, but rather than accepting that like a man and moving on with his pathetic existence he would prefer to inflict further pain and destruction on BRFC.

People said that when relegation came he would have nowhere to hide. Well he did. He disappeared for 4 weeks on holiday and then has returned to the fold quietly. Anyone think it is a coincidence that Murphy & Best's arrivals have coincided with Kean's return to public view? No, he's timed it to perfection knowing full well that people's anger will have died down and he can hide behind these 'good' signings. No doubt helped along the way by the PR genius that is Paul Agnew.

Back the original point, I honesty think that we could start next season with Barcelona's squad and I wouldn't be confident of promotion, such is the detrimental effect Kean has on the club. He simply is not up to the job of being a manager. He has proven that. If anyone seriously thinks he is suddenly going to go from a 20% win record to the required 50-60% for promotion then they need help like he does.

Kean is recruiting all his old pals to the club to strengthen his position. He knows Murphy from Fulham, Best from Coventry and the Portuguese players from his illustrious career over there. Agnew and Shaw will not complain as they collect their salaries for doing nothing. Soon the supporters will be the only ones who can complain, most of those will have left the club.


Anyway, how's the search for a new sponsor going? Any news or are we not bothering with nonsense like that?

Jack Herer wrote:

RoversSwiss wrote: At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window. Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion. I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season. Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble. Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground. The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go. It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship. Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level. At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Positive, positive, positive. Last season had many positives. One step backwards, two forwards. You sound like someone we know. He still hasn't apologised for relegation either. It's funny because I've not heard of one person not renewing because of "the terrible atmosphere in the ground", but I've heard thousands and thousands who haven't because of Steve Kean still being around. When the fans are ignored for so long, then of course the atmosphere is terrible. The whole town is depressed in case you hadn't noticed. Steve Kean, and presumably the Venkys, blamed the fans last season too. I see you are still doing that now. What a disgrace. You are right to say that results do normally get a manager sacked. That's the massive problem the fans have. What is Steve Kean still doing around because his results have been abysmal? No other club in football history has kept a manager on for so long with such bad results. So why is Steve Kean still here? His presence is having a terrible long term effect on Rovers, so why won't the owners get rid? It literally makes no sense from a financial, or football, or moral sense to sick with Kean, but that's exactly what the Venkys are doing. Why?

So you have heard "thousands and thousands " say they are not renewing. What personally, you have heard them all say it with your own ears?
Wow, you have been busy...
Funny though, I am a lifelong supporter and I live locally and we have a pub full of supporters that I know. Yes a few have said they won't be going because of Kean but even now some of them have relented and renewed. Now my judgement is that this is probably a more representative view than the "Apocalypse" represented on these threads
Not a one of us likes Kean or "Luvs" the Venkys but they are not going away so we will have to endure for now.
the firesale scare has not happened so far and we seem to be buying half decent players, despite the "moaners"
But it's a free country so carry on Trolling.
Me, I will support my team especially when the going gets tough...

Wild Rover wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:

RoversSwiss wrote: At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window. Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion. I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season. Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble. Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground. The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go. It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship. Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level. At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Positive, positive, positive. Last season had many positives. One step backwards, two forwards. You sound like someone we know. He still hasn't apologised for relegation either. It's funny because I've not heard of one person not renewing because of "the terrible atmosphere in the ground", but I've heard thousands and thousands who haven't because of Steve Kean still being around. When the fans are ignored for so long, then of course the atmosphere is terrible. The whole town is depressed in case you hadn't noticed. Steve Kean, and presumably the Venkys, blamed the fans last season too. I see you are still doing that now. What a disgrace. You are right to say that results do normally get a manager sacked. That's the massive problem the fans have. What is Steve Kean still doing around because his results have been abysmal? No other club in football history has kept a manager on for so long with such bad results. So why is Steve Kean still here? His presence is having a terrible long term effect on Rovers, so why won't the owners get rid? It literally makes no sense from a financial, or football, or moral sense to sick with Kean, but that's exactly what the Venkys are doing. Why?

So you have heard "thousands and thousands " say they are not renewing. What personally, you have heard them all say it with your own ears?
Wow, you have been busy...
Funny though, I am a lifelong supporter and I live locally and we have a pub full of supporters that I know. Yes a few have said they won't be going because of Kean but even now some of them have relented and renewed. Now my judgement is that this is probably a more representative view than the "Apocalypse" represented on these threads
Not a one of us likes Kean or "Luvs" the Venkys but they are not going away so we will have to endure for now.
the firesale scare has not happened so far and we seem to be buying half decent players, despite the "moaners"
But it's a free country so carry on Trolling.
Me, I will support my team especially when the going gets tough...

some people are easily brain washed and he knows were there is a pub full of em

Best was signed by Newcastle for £1.5m January 2010.
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Good bit of business for them.

Kean can sign the whole Barca squad and I still wont enter Ewood until that deluded idiot has left,,I shall return with the other 5000 when he has gone.

RoversSwiss wrote:
At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Are you from this planet? You really dont get it do you. We could have sang "We are the Champions" from start to finish against Wigan and we would still have been relegated. We had already gone down by then. Why do you think fans had given up? As for the season not being always a disaster. Really? The manager has to be sacked if results arent good? The results were disasterous and he wasnt sacked. It's fans like you giving kean and Venkys a helping hand. You make it so easy for them.

Wild Rover wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:

RoversSwiss wrote: At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window. Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion. I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season. Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble. Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground. The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go. It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship. Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level. At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Positive, positive, positive. Last season had many positives. One step backwards, two forwards. You sound like someone we know. He still hasn't apologised for relegation either. It's funny because I've not heard of one person not renewing because of "the terrible atmosphere in the ground", but I've heard thousands and thousands who haven't because of Steve Kean still being around. When the fans are ignored for so long, then of course the atmosphere is terrible. The whole town is depressed in case you hadn't noticed. Steve Kean, and presumably the Venkys, blamed the fans last season too. I see you are still doing that now. What a disgrace. You are right to say that results do normally get a manager sacked. That's the massive problem the fans have. What is Steve Kean still doing around because his results have been abysmal? No other club in football history has kept a manager on for so long with such bad results. So why is Steve Kean still here? His presence is having a terrible long term effect on Rovers, so why won't the owners get rid? It literally makes no sense from a financial, or football, or moral sense to sick with Kean, but that's exactly what the Venkys are doing. Why?

So you have heard "thousands and thousands " say they are not renewing. What personally, you have heard them all say it with your own ears?
Wow, you have been busy...
Funny though, I am a lifelong supporter and I live locally and we have a pub full of supporters that I know. Yes a few have said they won't be going because of Kean but even now some of them have relented and renewed. Now my judgement is that this is probably a more representative view than the "Apocalypse" represented on these threads
Not a one of us likes Kean or "Luvs" the Venkys but they are not going away so we will have to endure for now.
the firesale scare has not happened so far and we seem to be buying half decent players, despite the "moaners"
But it's a free country so carry on Trolling.
Me, I will support my team especially when the going gets tough...

We dont have to endure them. Would you endure a burgular keep breaking into your house because he isnt going away? They dont have to have a fire sale. They are all queuing at the door to exit. I dont think your view is representative either. You provide no evidence other than what youve heard in a pub. To suggest that Kean is buying half decent players despite the moaners is a disgraceful statement as a Rovers fan. You make it sound as though those who want him sacked have been affecting his ability to put a team together and blaming fans. His job is to put a team together that can win enough points. His job isnt to do that despite the fans!! Dont be so gullible. Kean wont be doing anything other than doing what he is told to do.

Bazzer wrote:
Hasslem's verdict is far more valid than that of Roverswiss. And I agree that perhaps only really heavy defeats will eventually force Venkys hand to get rid of the backstabber.
But I wish Hasslem would stick to footballing matters and get off his high horse. Never been drunk? Never told lies? You will be telling us you do not break wind next.

What a stupid, insenstive and irrelevant comment. Being drunk and being drunk and driving down the M6 putting other motorists lives at risk then lying to a court about it is not remotely comparible. One is possible irresponsible to the individuals health, the other is a criminal offence. My friends 16 year old daughter was killed by a drunk driver who also lied in court. it is inexcusable and you are a throughtless person. I despise Kean for everything he has done since he became our manager

Kevin - stop trying to impress Venky's/Kean - you aren't getting a job at Rovers!

Rovers are shocking under Kean and things will not improve at the club until he's out.

Yes, all of our strikers will combine to provide a great goal tally....

Pity Kean will only play 1 up-top with 1 in the hole and 2 defensive midfielders....

..oh wait, that means Goodwillie won't get a game? again? For sure, thats the reason were in the championship.

If we are to ascend back to the PL we need 2 strikers with 1 in the hole, nuff said.

merlinrabbit wrote:

Bazzer wrote:
Hasslem's verdict is far more valid than that of Roverswiss. And I agree that perhaps only really heavy defeats will eventually force Venkys hand to get rid of the backstabber.
But I wish Hasslem would stick to footballing matters and get off his high horse. Never been drunk? Never told lies? You will be telling us you do not break wind next.

What a stupid, insenstive and irrelevant comment. Being drunk and being drunk and driving down the M6 putting other motorists lives at risk then lying to a court about it is not remotely comparible. One is possible irresponsible to the individuals health, the other is a criminal offence. My friends 16 year old daughter was killed by a drunk driver who also lied in court. it is inexcusable and you are a throughtless person. I despise Kean for everything he has done since he became our manager

merlinrabbit you forgot to state that kean also blamed rovers fans for spicking his drink you cant get any lower !

just heard agnew on radio lancs what a load of waffle,will merge in perfectly with the band of non entity"s that is the venkeys hierarchy.division 1 hear we come

Agnew just said on radio Lancs that the new " management team at ewood " have just to win over the 10% of non believers !! yep thats right 10% , so the 90% of the supporters are fully behind this shambles .. you couldn,t make it up , it goes from bad to worse . the lunatics have taken overthe asylum....

merlinrabbit wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:

RoversSwiss wrote: At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window. Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion. I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season. Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble. Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground. The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go. It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship. Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level. At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

Positive, positive, positive. Last season had many positives. One step backwards, two forwards. You sound like someone we know. He still hasn't apologised for relegation either. It's funny because I've not heard of one person not renewing because of "the terrible atmosphere in the ground", but I've heard thousands and thousands who haven't because of Steve Kean still being around. When the fans are ignored for so long, then of course the atmosphere is terrible. The whole town is depressed in case you hadn't noticed. Steve Kean, and presumably the Venkys, blamed the fans last season too. I see you are still doing that now. What a disgrace. You are right to say that results do normally get a manager sacked. That's the massive problem the fans have. What is Steve Kean still doing around because his results have been abysmal? No other club in football history has kept a manager on for so long with such bad results. So why is Steve Kean still here? His presence is having a terrible long term effect on Rovers, so why won't the owners get rid? It literally makes no sense from a financial, or football, or moral sense to sick with Kean, but that's exactly what the Venkys are doing. Why?

So you have heard "thousands and thousands " say they are not renewing. What personally, you have heard them all say it with your own ears?
Wow, you have been busy...
Funny though, I am a lifelong supporter and I live locally and we have a pub full of supporters that I know. Yes a few have said they won't be going because of Kean but even now some of them have relented and renewed. Now my judgement is that this is probably a more representative view than the "Apocalypse" represented on these threads
Not a one of us likes Kean or "Luvs" the Venkys but they are not going away so we will have to endure for now.
the firesale scare has not happened so far and we seem to be buying half decent players, despite the "moaners"
But it's a free country so carry on Trolling.
Me, I will support my team especially when the going gets tough...

We dont have to endure them. Would you endure a burgular keep breaking into your house because he isnt going away? They dont have to have a fire sale. They are all queuing at the door to exit. I dont think your view is representative either. You provide no evidence other than what youve heard in a pub. To suggest that Kean is buying half decent players despite the moaners is a disgraceful statement as a Rovers fan. You make it sound as though those who want him sacked have been affecting his ability to put a team together and blaming fans. His job is to put a team together that can win enough points. His job isnt to do that despite the fans!! Dont be so gullible. Kean wont be doing anything other than doing what he is told to do.

The evidence is a pub full of actual Rovers fans . Real ones that go to matches
Who is doing the belittling here?
??

RoversSwiss wrote:
At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

So, when you landed on this planet, was it the last day of the season? Have you not seen the worst Prem manager and said if results go bad then the manager has to be sacked? I've got news for you, reults were terrible, and he's still here.

You may say (and I quote)

"Kean is:
1) a drunk (convicted)
2) a liar (judge said in court)
3) incompetent (results prove)
4) deluded (see above quotes)"

Nonsense. Steve Kean is:

5) A battler
6) Brave
7) Resilient
8) Intelligent (he speaks Portuguese) and he is also:
9) Scottish

And he the man who will get Blackburn back into the Premiership.

So maybe he likes to drink 8 or 9 pints of heavy occasionally. Who doesn't?

You've got to learn to respect the Kean, not condemn him

RoversSwiss wrote:
At least these signings look better than the ones he made in the Xmas transfer window.

Despite the managers poor tactics, team selections and substitutions for the last few matches the whole season wasn't always a disaster. There was an heroic win against Utd, an excellent 10 man performance against Fulham and at the beginning of the season despite the world's worst defensive play, our attacking play was good. We should be able to make a decent challenge for promotion.

I just hope that the atmosphere improves in the ground, without that we have no chance. No-one can believe that chanting "Kean Out" within the first 10 minutes of the last home game against Wigan match would help Rovers win the match. If that happens again we can write off the season.

Sometimes I think our terraces have been infiltrated by those from the other end of the M65 to purposely cause trouble.

Many people will boycott the matches this season, but I have heard of many who are not renewing season tickets because they can't stand the terrible atmosphere in the ground.

The role of the fan is to help the team win matches, nothing else. If that's not the reason for going to the match then I wouldn't go.

It's results that normally gets a manager sacked, we have a squad good enough to get promoted, if the results are bad then manager has to be sacked, it won't be demonstrations that get him sacked. SK cant use the excuse of not having a good enough squad for the Championship.

Seems to be some good signings and players like Jordan Slew should be able to replace Hoillet at this level.

At least these signings can give us some cause for a little optimism.

don't accuse me of being a B@@@ley fan I was shouting Kean out because we were already relegated back in Sepember 2011 when Kean was left in charge and Venky's destruction of the club was underway, the Wigan game merely confirmed what we were expecting to happen all along with these idiots in charge. What was Modeste doing on the pitch against Wigan? he is not fit to grace the Combination, possibly the worst player ever to wear the shirt, and you expect me to be positive and support the team/Venkys. Even a win wouldn't have saved us with Chelsea on last day. The Darwen End lads are Rovers biggest vocal supporters, fact. I stood behind one of them at Wolves and he led the (supportive) singing ALL 90 MINUTES-hero status. When faced with the atrocities committed against our club all fans have the right to complain, the problem was with Venkys silent, no one answering at he club ,Kean embarassing BRFC with his media interviews, the only protest you could make was during the 90 minutes. Do I have to spell this out to you? or are YOU a Claret sympathising on here? I've done 43 years at Ewood took family and friends, but you won't hear me chant "Kean out" this season cos I won't be there, enjoy Ewood on your own mate.

MxMave wrote:
Yes, all of our strikers will combine to provide a great goal tally....

Pity Kean will only play 1 up-top with 1 in the hole and 2 defensive midfielders....

..oh wait, that means Goodwillie won't get a game? again? For sure, thats the reason were in the championship.

If we are to ascend back to the PL we need 2 strikers with 1 in the hole, nuff said.

I'd like to see Kean in a hole.

peely wrote:
Agnew just said on radio Lancs that the new " management team at ewood " have just to win over the 10% of non believers !! yep thats right 10% , so the 90% of the supporters are fully behind this shambles .. you couldn,t make it up , it goes from bad to worse . the lunatics have taken overthe asylum....

We've lost circa fifteen THOUSAND S/T holders, since these jokers arrived. A tad more than 10% I think. Does ANYONE tell the truth down there? We appear to have lost our shirt sponsor too, is this right?

The Mighty Weetabix wrote:
You may say (and I quote)

"Kean is:
1) a drunk (convicted)
2) a liar (judge said in court)
3) incompetent (results prove)
4) deluded (see above quotes)"

Nonsense. Steve Kean is:

5) A battler
6) Brave
7) Resilient
8) Intelligent (he speaks Portuguese) and he is also:
9) Scottish

And he the man who will get Blackburn back into the Premiership.

So maybe he likes to drink 8 or 9 pints of heavy occasionally. Who doesn't?

You've got to learn to respect the Kean, not condemn him

A failure and a fake. KEAN OUT, KEAN OUT!

peely wrote:
Agnew just said on radio Lancs that the new " management team at ewood " have just to win over the 10% of non believers !! yep thats right 10% , so the 90% of the supporters are fully behind this shambles .. you couldn,t make it up , it goes from bad to worse . the lunatics have taken overthe asylum....

90% for Kean? That would make his support greater than the population of BwD and district!

Best, Gomes, Murphy all is going to get better IF Steve Kean think "how to Substitute players on each match situvations"

A full Fit 11 players for next 46 match is the key. When we look at the defence players are nothing capable of checking the forward players of other teams........What is the plan for new signing on defence...?, fitness of current players like Orr,Givet,Dunn....?, others like Olsson, Salgado, Hanley are not sure in rovers still.........

Who all players are confirm in rovers for the next season in FLC......any news.....?