Best signs for Blackburn Rovers (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Didn't expect it to cost anywhere near £3million but a decent signing for the Championship. Shame the manager hasn't been sacked, then we may have a chance of promotion.

Well chuffed about Best, I know he's not a world beater, but had some promise in the Prem last season and should be more than ideal replacement for the Yak in the Championship!!

I wonder who our great leader is going to liken him to?

Another piece of good news and much as I detest Kean he clearly has something to persuade these guys to come down to the Championship. I don't believe its just a question of money; they must believe there is potential at Rovers. All that said, if early results don't happen he will be on his way

not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Well thats two more signings than I anticpated - I do hop we can keep Givet & possibly Robinson and bring on the fringe players from last season - they may well settle easier in the Championship.

the big question can Kean manage successfully?

I want Rovers soaring not plummeting next season

Tuo Neak wrote:
Didn't expect it to cost anywhere near £3million but a decent signing for the Championship. Shame the manager hasn't been sacked, then we may have a chance of promotion.

Despite 2 good signings and maybe more to follow, I will never be able to support Rovers whilst Kean is still in charge. I will never forgive him for his part in what has happened over the last year and a half. Especially now he is surrounding himself with more a**e kissers, to add to those like Orr and Dunn who won't rightly criticize or confront him like all those who have done so recently, and been forced to leave.

Only1Garner wrote:
I wonder who our great leader is going to liken him to?

well, he is known as Leonel Besti at the maggies..

It seems as though Money is being spent on attempt to get back to the premier league at the first time of asking.

I personally am still concerned about what has gone on and what the BRAG information passed on to the authorities was. The sooner the information is out the better, as the supporters are enitled to know exactly what the wrong doings are. I know plenty are boycotting next year, but that doesn't mean we love the club any less.

He seems a good signing, I hope Givet signs I dont mind Robinson going because Bunn deserves his chance, he was unlucky to be dropped last season when Robbo was injured.

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Maybe this could be a repeat of the 91/92 season when Mackay splashed the cash, failed then got sacked after 6 games and Dalglish could be back by the begining of October.

I'm afraid it's going to take a lot more than signing Danny Murphy and Leon Best to persuade me to believe that Venky's have changed their policy.

It appears to me that rather than being in the last chance saloon or 'on trial' as some people believe Kean to be, that he is actually more secure now than he was last season. These are clearly his signings, unlike Formica/Rochina/Vuck
evic. There no longer appears to be any dissent against him at Ewood and they have appointed his two chums to the board to protect him further.

To me if there was even the slightest doubt as to Kean's position none of that would have been allowed to happen.

If the season started tomorrow our squad would be the best in the Championship. Unfortunately we are without an adequate manager, which is the most important person at the club. A competent manager is key. Look at Norwich and Swansea who managed promotion with average squads. Its a real shame that a decent manager does not have the opportunity Kean has. If somebody like Bruce, Warnock, Grayson or Mowbray had such money at their disposal I think we'd win the league. Recent appointments of Bruce at Hull, Clark at Birmingham and possibly Zola at Watford mean that's another 3 clubs to finish above us next season. Poorer squads but better manager. I also expect the departures of Olsson, Formica, Hoillett, Robinson, Nzonzi and Rochina minimum over the coming weeks, leaving us with a weaker squad.

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Ten matches now not five when Murphy signed? Are you sure you want to stick with the Top 2. Is that factual or an opinion?

Only messing, good signing shame about the situation! Wonder how many goals he can score in a Kean team

Is givet82 telling us what to say now?
Next you will be threatening us with legal action if we say the wrong thing.
I dont care how much they allegedly spend on players, how is it going to make any difference with Kean in charge?
If you think by spending a little cash will win promotion, how many clubs have tried with better managers' than ours and failed?
All they want is your MONEY AND WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET IT THEY WILL DO IT.
Dont be taken in,KEEP AWAY OR WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THEM

champs95 wrote:

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Maybe this could be a repeat of the 91/92 season when Mackay splashed the cash, failed then got sacked after 6 games and Dalglish could be back by the begining of October.

yeah maybe, whatever happens we all want kean to go and rover's to go up, i have a sneaky suspicion rovers will do well even with this gobsh1te in charge.Venky's arn't daft and know were the cash is

Excellent signing, no question. £3,000,000 is splashing the cash and no mistake; that and his wages won't be cheap of course. But he is quality. Amazing for us in fact considering which league we are now in.

How much is Steve Kean's severance package though do you think? What therefore would that money be better spent on, for instance to get us more season tickets or the fans more excited for the coming season:

1) Any amount of decent signings like this?

or

2) Getting rid of Kean?

I know what the answer is. The fans simply can't get past the fact that he is still in charge and it's bizarre the owners can't realise that.

As I've just said on another article; football managers are second only to kamikaze pilots in having the shortest career. Everyone knows that. If the team is doing badly, you don't sack the striker, you sack the manager. But not with Steve Kean, a man with little to no experience and has done worse than any other manager that I've certainly lived under.

It just begs the continued question; why are the Venkys pulling out all the stops now, when it's only in a flailing attempt to save Kean?

Sack the goon, then we can get on with the season.

Murphy and best are very good signings just hope there will be more like it to compensate for the loss of quality players that will be leaving in the coming weeks,good replacements though, we still need to beef up the team its lacking in experience in defence. still kean out for me the guy is a walking disaster.

one more season wrote:
Is givet82 telling us what to say now?
Next you will be threatening us with legal action if we say the wrong thing.
I dont care how much they allegedly spend on players, how is it going to make any difference with Kean in charge?
If you think by spending a little cash will win promotion, how many clubs have tried with better managers' than ours and failed?
All they want is your MONEY AND WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET IT THEY WILL DO IT.
Dont be taken in,KEEP AWAY OR WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THEM

im not saying that at all so calm down, im sick to death of idiot's on here saying were getting relegated league 1 league 2 etc KEEP AWAY YOU SAY IN BLOCK CAPITALS IS THAT TO SCARE PEOPLE.

Tuo Neak wrote:

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Ten matches now not five when Murphy signed? Are you sure you want to stick with the Top 2. Is that factual or an opinion?

Only messing, good signing shame about the situation! Wonder how many goals he can score in a Kean team

yes true but lazy yak didn't do to bad in a kean team ad surely the team know's there job as spain did last night with no strikers on at the start

Tuo Neak wrote:

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Ten matches now not five when Murphy signed? Are you sure you want to stick with the Top 2. Is that factual or an opinion?

Only messing, good signing shame about the situation! Wonder how many goals he can score in a Kean team

yes true but lazy yak didn't do to bad in a kean team ad surely the team know's there job as spain did last night with no strikers on at the start

stick to football wrote:
Well thats two more signings than I anticpated - I do hop we can keep Givet & possibly Robinson and bring on the fringe players from last season - they may well settle easier in the Championship.

the big question can Kean manage successfully?

I want Rovers soaring not plummeting next season

Ahh, the man himself under yet another username. All these new users, all saying the strangely same positive thing but all only sticking around for a few days at a time, before miraculously re-morphing into someone new.

Can he / you manage successfully you ask? If you are a genuine fan who's just woken from a coma, then apologies, we'd had that question answered categorically over the last 18 months. No, is the answer. He couldn't manage the few short steps to his own front door after he'd just driven home. But you do the maths on that one Steve.

We all want Rovers soaring not plummeting next season, it's just we all can't get past the fact that the manager is still in charge. It's just really really weird in the world of football. No one can disagree with that.

He can't drive home! He has to be driven.

Another player from Kean's past. They will have worked together at Coventry. He's building an old pals group hoping they will think him wonderful. Well I won't!
Do not be taken in by the money being spent - it's chicken feed (sorry!) in comparison too what they have got in and will get in before the start of the season from all the outgoing players sold and the Pem. League money. If they had sacked Kean in December after the Bolton game none of this would have happened and we would still be in the Premiership. With Kean still in charge going down to League 1 is still more likely than promotion. He is still as bad as he always was and the talent pool will be worse.

givet82 wrote:

Tuo Neak wrote:

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Ten matches now not five when Murphy signed? Are you sure you want to stick with the Top 2. Is that factual or an opinion?

Only messing, good signing shame about the situation! Wonder how many goals he can score in a Kean team

yes true but lazy yak didn't do to bad in a kean team ad surely the team know's there job as spain did last night with no strikers on at the start

Yes we continue to see how the players can do without a manager, why employ one at all? In some ways Yakubus goals actually covered over just how bad the manager and the tactics were.

If Rovers play with Spains 6 "Midfielders" next season I'll be thrilled, no doubt with Steve Kean he will be labeling Leon Best the next Fernando Torres.

Well, 2 decent signings so far, but not getting carried away till all ingoings and outgoings are sorted. Then we might have some indication of how the team will be set up, unfortunately Mr Kean is in charge of that lol!

I thought Best had some good games (from tv viewing) last season and enhanced his reputation, prolific he is not but maybe his EPL experiences will help his game for Rovers.

BEST IS A AVERAGE PLAYER IS BEEN AT COVENTRY YEOVIL SOTHAMTON SHEFFIELD WEN.Q.P.R NOW ROVERS

No doubt the dream team of Shaw and Agnew have a cunning plan - after all they were a roaring success at North End?...!

How I wish I could feel part of the pre season buildup. This period of the year used to bring with it the anticipation of things to come. Waiting with bated breath for the next big signing. But at the moment any anticipation is tinged with sadness at the thought that I will be unable to see the Rovers next season whoever they sign. There is no way I can justify going down to Ewood whilst SK is there. I must make a stand, as should all others until he is gone. But I welcome the new players and hope they bring success to the team but unfortunately that success may mean SKs future at the club will go on for longer.

At 25 he could be a good signing and will score in this League , as for Murphy, he's been a good, solid performer throughout his career and even at 35 won't allow lacklustre performances from his team mates. But too many bridges burnt by Kean and hope he goes sooner rather than later, but even with him in charge I am still proud to wear my Rovers shirt. COYB's

notac wrote:
No doubt the dream team of Shaw and Agnew have a cunning plan - after all they were a roaring success at North End?...!

Agnew on Radio Lancs tomorrow night.

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Hi Givet,
I agree with your comments on buying a 3M player, my worry is this peanuts after the summer sale going outwards, if no one leaves (and I can't see that) they have a half decent squad, just a pity Kean is still in charge, see you at the away games mate.

Kean out

baldie wrote:

notac wrote:
No doubt the dream team of Shaw and Agnew have a cunning plan - after all they were a roaring success at North End?...!

Agnew on Radio Lancs tomorrow night.

What's he doing? Reading the weather!

A Darener wrote:
How I wish I could feel part of the pre season buildup. This period of the year used to bring with it the anticipation of things to come. Waiting with bated breath for the next big signing. But at the moment any anticipation is tinged with sadness at the thought that I will be unable to see the Rovers next season whoever they sign. There is no way I can justify going down to Ewood whilst SK is there. I must make a stand, as should all others until he is gone. But I welcome the new players and hope they bring success to the team but unfortunately that success may mean SKs future at the club will go on for longer.

Just to say you will be one of many staying away because of SK but yes your right we HAVE to make a stand!

Lancs - pensioner wrote:

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Hi Givet,
I agree with your comments on buying a 3M player, my worry is this peanuts after the summer sale going outwards, if no one leaves (and I can't see that) they have a half decent squad, just a pity Kean is still in charge, see you at the away games mate.

Kean out

The communications manager has just done his first job.
How often do clubs tell supporters the price of a player on their official website?

A Darener wrote:

baldie wrote:

notac wrote:
No doubt the dream team of Shaw and Agnew have a cunning plan - after all they were a roaring success at North End?...!

Agnew on Radio Lancs tomorrow night.

What's he doing? Reading the weather!

Would you believe him if he did?

The cost of Murphy and Best must be huge and is not really understandable as its like buying a Rolls Royce and allowing your 14 year old son to take it out for a spin.

I hope everyones correct about the number of games it takes to ensure those numpties realise he is useless,come to think of it all they need to do is ask their business development depatment why season tickets are not selling and they may discover that it is worth reading this section of the local paper to discover the truth.

The cost of Murphy and Best must be huge and is not really understandable as its like buying a Rolls Royce and allowing your 14 year old son to take it out for a spin.

I hope everyones correct about the number of games it takes to ensure those numpties realise he is useless,come to think of it all they need to do is ask their business development depatment why season tickets are not selling and they may discover that it is worth reading this section of the local paper to discover the truth.

All I want to read about is Kean's departure.

burner wrote:
All I want to read about is Kean's departure.

And 99.999999999........
..............99% of the rest of us.

carlmc wrote:
It seems as though Money is being spent on attempt to get back to the premier league at the first time of asking.

I personally am still concerned about what has gone on and what the BRAG information passed on to the authorities was. The sooner the information is out the better, as the supporters are enitled to know exactly what the wrong doings are. I know plenty are boycotting next year, but that doesn't mean we love the club any less.

If you wanted to know what infomation was past to the PL, sportsminister etc then you should have gone to the meeting.
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I'm not gonna spell it out to you but I will say that it is simply STAGGERING - the biggest football coruption story this country has ever seen, bar NON and puts the signing of a couple of "useful signings" into very minor persective.

jack01 wrote:
I'm afraid it's going to take a lot more than signing Danny Murphy and Leon Best to persuade me to believe that Venky's have changed their policy.

It appears to me that rather than being in the last chance saloon or 'on trial' as some people believe Kean to be, that he is actually more secure now than he was last season. These are clearly his signings, unlike Formica/Rochina/Vuck

evic. There no longer appears to be any dissent against him at Ewood and they have appointed his two chums to the board to protect him further.

To me if there was even the slightest doubt as to Kean's position none of that would have been allowed to happen.

If the season started tomorrow our squad would be the best in the Championship. Unfortunately we are without an adequate manager, which is the most important person at the club. A competent manager is key. Look at Norwich and Swansea who managed promotion with average squads. Its a real shame that a decent manager does not have the opportunity Kean has. If somebody like Bruce, Warnock, Grayson or Mowbray had such money at their disposal I think we'd win the league. Recent appointments of Bruce at Hull, Clark at Birmingham and possibly Zola at Watford mean that's another 3 clubs to finish above us next season. Poorer squads but better manager. I also expect the departures of Olsson, Formica, Hoillett, Robinson, Nzonzi and Rochina minimum over the coming weeks, leaving us with a weaker squad.

Bruce was a fool with money at all his previous clubs, spent loads, got nowhere, blamed others and got sacked.

I welcome the signing but when the season starts and the incoming and outgoings at the club are analysed I am quite certain the squad will be significantly smaller and Venky's will have made a good profit from the selling. Unfortunately their misplaced cultutral pride will be their undoing as they are sticking with Kean come what may to prove a point to the fans. The team will be mid table at best and their best chance of an immediate return to the premier league will have been squandered before the new season even starts.
Kean out
Venky's out

Hi JC,

I have attended the previous meetings but was unable to make the one at Longshaw WMC due to other commitments. From what I can gather though the facts were not spoken about at the meeting.

I am sure you are right about the biggest corruption story this country has ever seen, but why nothing yet from the authorities?

I for one can't wait for all this to be exposed, as I feel sure that an agent, manager and the owners will be brought to task. My worry is, it will damage the club too and may mean points being deducted or even relegation, as it seems to be serious stuff.

Given that it was the fans that brought this to the attention of the authorities, this would be unfair in my opinion, as the club is the fans deep down.

Bloke on Radio Lancs earlier who is doing a documentary on Rovers under the Venky's.
He said he had investigated the conspiracy theories,his words not mine, and had reached a dead end in each case.He didn't believe any of them had any substance.
He's tried meeting Kean and Venky's,both with no joy,but has arranged a meeting with Shebby Singh.
Think he's on in full this week.

carlmc wrote:
Hi JC,

I have attended the previous meetings but was unable to make the one at Longshaw WMC due to other commitments. From what I can gather though the facts were not spoken about at the meeting.

I am sure you are right about the biggest corruption story this country has ever seen, but why nothing yet from the authorities?

I for one can't wait for all this to be exposed, as I feel sure that an agent, manager and the owners will be brought to task. My worry is, it will damage the club too and may mean points being deducted or even relegation, as it seems to be serious stuff.

Given that it was the fans that brought this to the attention of the authorities, this would be unfair in my opinion, as the club is the fans deep down.

I think we're all prepared for the worst case scenario. The sooner this particular circus leaves town, the better.

I am trying to come over as not too negative today, but heh, we have a numpty in charge.

I'm boycotting till he's gone.

Quite fancy the Cork game though, gonna try to make that. Last time I was in Ireland I was carrying a SLR and dodging bullets from the IRA. Not quite sure I'll be able to keep my mouth shut, better take my bodyguard with me LOL!

baldie wrote:
Bloke on Radio Lancs earlier who is doing a documentary on Rovers under the Venky's. He said he had investigated the conspiracy theories,his words not mine, and had reached a dead end in each case.He didn't believe any of them had any substance. He's tried meeting Kean and Venky's,both with no joy,but has arranged a meeting with Shebby Singh. Think he's on in full this week.

I think this may be the Squashed Fox TV company, who are doing a documentary on the club.

I firmly believe if there is corruption of the highest order, the authorties need to come out now and tell us what they have and more importantly what they are going to do about it.

I am sure BRAG do have some excellent evidence of wrong doing as 400 pages were presented. I just worry that this is still not out in the open. We kick off the new season in just over 6 weeks and the fans deserve to know.

carlmc wrote:
Hi JC,

I have attended the previous meetings but was unable to make the one at Longshaw WMC due to other commitments. From what I can gather though the facts were not spoken about at the meeting.

I am sure you are right about the biggest corruption story this country has ever seen, but why nothing yet from the authorities?

I for one can't wait for all this to be exposed, as I feel sure that an agent, manager and the owners will be brought to task. My worry is, it will damage the club too and may mean points being deducted or even relegation, as it seems to be serious stuff.

Given that it was the fans that brought this to the attention of the authorities, this would be unfair in my opinion, as the club is the fans deep down.

Yes, you are right, it wasnt spoken of directly during the meeting but in the questions section afterwards - I thought this was strange at the time but afterwards I thought that this was done as the meeting was minuated so it would have been shown on the website for all to see, by dealing with it in the q&a section it avoids being uploaded.
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I don't think they want it out in the open yet as they are still investigating many many leads but what they can prove (which is staggering), they are keeping it fairly quiet as they are showing some deference/respect to the FA who need time to study it (they said the FA already knew some of the info and were already investigating it). In the meeting with the FA both the complainance officers for the fit and proper tests and the agents complaiance officers were there.
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As for it being exposed - it will be, but not for a long time. The FA are studying the file from the fans and cross referencing it with the infomation they already have. Also, they have many other leads to follow as it seems that only the tip of the iceberrg has been touched so far. Also, no doubt the FA will have to bring in the police at some stage (if they already havent done so?) - so basically I think it will not be on the front pages for a while yet.
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As for the club being punished when it all comes out - I suspect we will have to be - along with the individual criminals concerned, however, like you, I think the only hope we have is that most of this has been exposed by Rovers fans. But that is a long way down the line - whatever the resulting punishment (if any) coruption/crimes/rul
e breaking at any football club cannot be tolorated by anyone and has to be rooted out.

baldie wrote:
Bloke on Radio Lancs earlier who is doing a documentary on Rovers under the Venky's.
He said he had investigated the conspiracy theories,his words not mine, and had reached a dead end in each case.He didn't believe any of them had any substance.
He's tried meeting Kean and Venky's,both with no joy,but has arranged a meeting with Shebby Singh.
Think he's on in full this week.

He probably didnt get anywhere as a number of journos including Alan Nixon also investigated these rumours and got no-where.
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It just goes to show what an unbelievable job the Rovers action group have done by GETTING this evidence where everyone else has failed. They have also done exactly the right thing by passing onto the FA and the goverment - this is SERIOUS stuff and before the happy clappy brigade start coming on here poo pooing "conspiricy theories" - that 400 page document contained IREFUTABLE EVIDENCE of serious wrong doing (league rule and law breaking).

Hi JC,

Cheers for the reply. It is very worrying, here is hoping that common sense will pervail with regards to the future of the club. The ideal scenario would be the criminal element are jailed and the club is handed over to the fans without too much damage done to the future of the club. If the owners have done something illegal then they should have the club taken from them. How this would be done and how the future of the club can be made secure, if this does happen, is anyones guess.

So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football?? Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull? The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it Scandal? Wot Scandal Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense? Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

I don't think the authorities have taken no action to be fair. If they have 400 pages of evidence supplied by BRAG and other lines of investigation then this will take time.

I am no legal expert, but unless clear evidence of wrong doing is available, announcing what they have and what they are going to do about it, is foolish.

I would hope that some sort of announcement will be made by the football authorites before the season starts, just to be fair to the fans, but who knows!

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
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The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
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I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
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Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiated conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
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Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
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You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

carlmc wrote:
Hi JC,

I have attended the previous meetings but was unable to make the one at Longshaw WMC due to other commitments. From what I can gather though the facts were not spoken about at the meeting.

I am sure you are right about the biggest corruption story this country has ever seen, but why nothing yet from the authorities?

I for one can't wait for all this to be exposed, as I feel sure that an agent, manager and the owners will be brought to task. My worry is, it will damage the club too and may mean points being deducted or even relegation, as it seems to be serious stuff.

Given that it was the fans that brought this to the attention of the authorities, this would be unfair in my opinion, as the club is the fans deep down.

Yes, you are right, it wasnt spoken of directly during the meeting but in the questions section afterwards - I thought this was strange at the time but afterwards I thought that this was done as the meeting was minuated so it would have been shown on the website for all to see, by dealing with it in the q&a section it avoids being uploaded.
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I don't think they want it out in the open yet as they are still investigating many many leads but what they can prove (which is staggering), they are keeping it fairly quiet as they are showing some deference/respect to the FA who need time to study it (they said the FA already knew some of the info and were already investigating it). In the meeting with the FA both the complainance officers for the fit and proper tests and the agents complaiance officers were there.
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As for it being exposed - it will be, but not for a long time. The FA are studying the file from the fans and cross referencing it with the infomation they already have. Also, they have many other leads to follow as it seems that only the tip of the iceberrg has been touched so far. Also, no doubt the FA will have to bring in the police at some stage (if they already havent done so?) - so basically I think it will not be on the front pages for a while yet.
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As for the club being punished when it all comes out - I suspect we will have to be - along with the individual criminals concerned, however, like you, I think the only hope we have is that most of this has been exposed by Rovers fans. But that is a long way down the line - whatever the resulting punishment (if any) coruption/crimes/rul

e breaking at any football club cannot be tolorated by anyone and has to be rooted out.

Thanks JC, I couldn't make the meeting (I was babysitting ffs! lol)

Nice to have a bit more than was on the minuted website.

Most fans have this feeling of being 'used and abused', and as a result of that, the vociferous backlash, misunderstood from the outside, at times, but strengthening all the time.

More and more football followers of various clubs have expressed to me their dismay at events at Ewood. I have yet to meet one who would employ Kean as their manager (am I surprised?)

JC - I come on here mainly to get snippets of information on what happens at our club. Most of the posters on here cannot give me that that. You do. Other sources also.

You get a hard time here occasionally but not from me. Keep giving us what you know. Information is power. We need to know.

p.s.

Lived my formative years in Rishton. Used to go matches, home and away, then meet up with Mike Ferguson and John Connelly after in the Walmsley.

carlmc wrote:
Hi JC,

Cheers for the reply. It is very worrying, here is hoping that common sense will pervail with regards to the future of the club. The ideal scenario would be the criminal element are jailed and the club is handed over to the fans without too much damage done to the future of the club. If the owners have done something illegal then they should have the club taken from them. How this would be done and how the future of the club can be made secure, if this does happen, is anyones guess.

I am trying really hard not to laugh buy you really need to get a grip, are there any Glasgow gangsters in this fairy story?
No facts came out because there are non,400 pages of bull does not a case make
Drama queens, oh yes

givet82 wrote:

Tuo Neak wrote:

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Ten matches now not five when Murphy signed? Are you sure you want to stick with the Top 2. Is that factual or an opinion?

Only messing, good signing shame about the situation! Wonder how many goals he can score in a Kean team

yes true but lazy yak didn't do to bad in a kean team ad surely the team know's there job as spain did last night with no strikers on at the start

g82

"That’s it" we will play with no strikers, not sure if that is positive comment or a factual one? If you do not like the response from other posters, don't post because you know they will give you the answer you do not want to hear!!!

givet82 wrote:

Tuo Neak wrote:

givet82 wrote:
not often you see a championship team spending 3 mill on a player, i will say again venky's have woke up to realise we need to be in the premiership, kean's head is well and truely on the line,after ten games if were not in the top 2 he will be gone.Venky's are expecting promotion after spending cash on transfer's and wages time will tell.Please don't comment unless constuctive or factual

Ten matches now not five when Murphy signed? Are you sure you want to stick with the Top 2. Is that factual or an opinion?

Only messing, good signing shame about the situation! Wonder how many goals he can score in a Kean team

yes true but lazy yak didn't do to bad in a kean team ad surely the team know's there job as spain did last night with no strikers on at the start

g82

"That’s it" we will play with no strikers, not sure if that is positive comment or a factual one? If you do not like the response from other posters, don't post because you know they will give you the answer you do not want to hear!!!

Hi J C,

Thanks for your informative and honest posts this evening. I don't understand what so called supporters, posting on here have to suggest things are being said just for the sake of it.

You are spot on the FA etc would not have entertained the action group, if all they had was a file full of conspiracy theories.

I am quite confident what has been presented will be used to bring the people who have caused harm to our club, to task.

The lads who have worked hard to bring all this to the attention of the people who matter, are to be applauded.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate
d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

Wild Rover wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate

d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

well said JC and wild rover...you are so wrong!! i know this as i am closely related to one of the committee members..

Wild Rover wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate

d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

You keep saying "there is no evidance" but you never explain how everyone who sees the action groups file suddenly moves heaven and earth to help them - Scudamore see's it and arranges a meeting with the bigwigs/rulemakers at the FA and all the local MPs in east lancs get access to it and they then arrange a meeting with the sports minister - why do you think Scudamore, Jack Straw, G Jones and Jake Berry are pulling out all the stops ?, because they have read a file full of inuendo and conspiricy theories ? - no because they have read a file, filled with DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE and AFADAVIDITS
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However, one last thing I will say to give you a small reminder of how wrong things actually are below the surface at Ewood.
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Cast your mind back to the leaked BRFC memo from JA to Martin Goodman TELLING HIM to make a payment to an unknown man in south america involved in the MF deal. (this was given by one of the ex-Rovers directors to sportinginteligence who published it about 6 months ago).
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This memo shows an agent, suposedly with no ties to the club ORDERING a club director to do something ?

- how is that possible ?

- I'm sure we all appreciate JA "unpaid help" during the transfer window of Jan 2011, but how can he ORDER a club director to do anything ?? (If he was "requesting" MG make a payment then maybe I and 100,000 read it wrong or maybe he simply meant it as a request and wrote it down as incorrectly as an order )- I don't know ??

(funny how transparent/brillian
tly run clubs never have these wierd queries and anomolies ever crop up).
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Why do I need help - I have gone to listen to what the action group have said, I have also spoken to someone else (not an action group member), someone I have known and trusted for 40 years who has had full access to the action group file and he also said it was "mindblowing stuff" - you have done nothing but call anyone who thinks there maybe problems at Rovers "conspiricy theorists" - how have you come to your decision, have you talked to Action group members, listened to what they say before making up your mind or have you never left your settee ?

I suspect the latter.

Lets not get a blood rush to the head over 2 signings and the usual promises.Remember Kean signings before,when he didn't play the players for months and his strange team selections picking youth over experience.
For instance can Murphy run a full 90 minutes, or is he another Dunn/Pederson and how good will Best perform with the service we've come to expect under Kean.
Oh and splashing the cash is not what we've seen at Ewood, theres been far more coming in to Venkys than as been being spent on the team or in fact on anything else.
HOLD YOUR NERVE or Venkys/singh/kean/An
derson/Shaw/Agnew etc will be there forever.

plymouthrover wrote:
At 25 he could be a good signing and will score in this League , as for Murphy, he's been a good, solid performer throughout his career and even at 35 won't allow lacklustre performances from his team mates. But too many bridges burnt by Kean and hope he goes sooner rather than later, but even with him in charge I am still proud to wear my Rovers shirt. COYB's

well said Plymouth Rover....Best and Murphy would have been good signings even if we were still in the prem....to get them both to come to the Rovers in the championship is a massive boost for the club.

Allez les Bleus.

KO.N.

Monsters mum wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate


d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

well said JC and wild rover...you are so wrong!! i know this as i am closely related to one of the committee members..

Funny you should say this but I am very closely related to GOD and the voices in my head say, everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you don't like it. My name is doubting Thomas and until I see the evidence laid out on a table before me, then I, the chosen one, will cast judgement. Paperwork can be falsified, only takes about £100 to get a dodgy MOT.
So we wait and let the authorities investigate, and when they have compiled their evidence, either way, they may present it before ME for a judgement, no need to thank me, please.

RUinsane wrote:

Monsters mum wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate



d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

well said JC and wild rover...you are so wrong!! i know this as i am closely related to one of the committee members..

Funny you should say this but I am very closely related to GOD and the voices in my head say, everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you don't like it. My name is doubting Thomas and until I see the evidence laid out on a table before me, then I, the chosen one, will cast judgement. Paperwork can be falsified, only takes about £100 to get a dodgy MOT.
So we wait and let the authorities investigate, and when they have compiled their evidence, either way, they may present it before ME for a judgement, no need to thank me, please.

so in effect wild rover you are saying that the action group are lying. you say you are closely related to God (from your tone you must actually think you are him) and as for the voices in your head, you really must seek treatment. Have you ever paid £100 for a dodgy MOT? maybe you must have. or how would you know, then you have the gaul to make comments that the information others have is untrue. You are the dodgy one. For the record chosen one, I too have an opinion and also know just how much time and effort has been put in by the committee.
Oh and I won't be thanking you.

Monsters mum wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Monsters mum wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate




d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

well said JC and wild rover...you are so wrong!! i know this as i am closely related to one of the committee members..

Funny you should say this but I am very closely related to GOD and the voices in my head say, everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you don't like it. My name is doubting Thomas and until I see the evidence laid out on a table before me, then I, the chosen one, will cast judgement. Paperwork can be falsified, only takes about £100 to get a dodgy MOT.
So we wait and let the authorities investigate, and when they have compiled their evidence, either way, they may present it before ME for a judgement, no need to thank me, please.

so in effect wild rover you are saying that the action group are lying. you say you are closely related to God (from your tone you must actually think you are him) and as for the voices in your head, you really must seek treatment. Have you ever paid £100 for a dodgy MOT? maybe you must have. or how would you know, then you have the gaul to make comments that the information others have is untrue. You are the dodgy one. For the record chosen one, I too have an opinion and also know just how much time and effort has been put in by the committee.
Oh and I won't be thanking you.

sorry wild rover meant for RUinsane (must be)

Monsters mum wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Monsters mum wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate




d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

well said JC and wild rover...you are so wrong!! i know this as i am closely related to one of the committee members..

Funny you should say this but I am very closely related to GOD and the voices in my head say, everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you don't like it. My name is doubting Thomas and until I see the evidence laid out on a table before me, then I, the chosen one, will cast judgement. Paperwork can be falsified, only takes about £100 to get a dodgy MOT.
So we wait and let the authorities investigate, and when they have compiled their evidence, either way, they may present it before ME for a judgement, no need to thank me, please.

so in effect wild rover you are saying that the action group are lying. you say you are closely related to God (from your tone you must actually think you are him) and as for the voices in your head, you really must seek treatment. Have you ever paid £100 for a dodgy MOT? maybe you must have. or how would you know, then you have the gaul to make comments that the information others have is untrue. You are the dodgy one. For the record chosen one, I too have an opinion and also know just how much time and effort has been put in by the committee.
Oh and I won't be thanking you.

I never said that any evidence amassed was untrue, I said documents can be falsified, stand down woman thou est or I shalt smite thee. I can do rain on biblical proportions y'know. Look what happened whe the 24 hour petrol station in Darwen when they over charged me for a loaf, I sank it. And oftentimes excusing of a fault doth make the fault the worse by the excuse. Stand down I command thee. No man is my equal or my jailer, I answer only to God.

Monsters mum wrote:

RUinsane wrote:

Monsters mum wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Wild Rover wrote:
So no facts were discussed but it is the biggest scandal in the history of football??
Is it just me or is there a strong whiff of bull?
The authorities have the facts but take no action. The scandal is massive but no papers have run it
Scandal? Wot Scandal
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Then you say Kean is full of it, ha you are just as bad

Firstly I said that it was discused in the Q&A section.
.
The FA already HAD some of this infomation and ARE already investigating Rovers.
.
I also said that this won't break for along time as this is a COMPLEX investigation which many many leads are still to be followed which will be a time consuming process.
.
Do you really think that they would get to see the PL chief, ALL the bigwigs at the FA AND the head honcho for sport in the UK with a file full of "unsubstantiate




d conspiricy theories" ?? - do you really beleive you can meet these people without having something worth showing them ??
.
Infact they got the FA meeting after Scudamore looked through the file. They said he was so "BLOWN AWAY" with what he read that he organised the fans meeting with the FA there and then, whilst they were still there.
.
You have always defended Venkys from day 1 - everyone on this site knows this from your previous posts and no doubt you'll even defend them after the story breaks. No doubt you'll even blame members of the action group if we end up being punished as a club, rather the CRIMINALS which are currently within our midst.

Actually from day one I said Venkys had no money but hey you are not good with facts are you..and I would be careful about calling them criminal if I were you, the fact is there is no evidence and no amount of capital letters will make it so.
You need help

well said JC and wild rover...you are so wrong!! i know this as i am closely related to one of the committee members..

Funny you should say this but I am very closely related to GOD and the voices in my head say, everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you don't like it. My name is doubting Thomas and until I see the evidence laid out on a table before me, then I, the chosen one, will cast judgement. Paperwork can be falsified, only takes about £100 to get a dodgy MOT.
So we wait and let the authorities investigate, and when they have compiled their evidence, either way, they may present it before ME for a judgement, no need to thank me, please.

so in effect wild rover you are saying that the action group are lying. you say you are closely related to God (from your tone you must actually think you are him) and as for the voices in your head, you really must seek treatment. Have you ever paid £100 for a dodgy MOT? maybe you must have. or how would you know, then you have the gaul to make comments that the information others have is untrue. You are the dodgy one. For the record chosen one, I too have an opinion and also know just how much time and effort has been put in by the committee.
Oh and I won't be thanking you.

I am not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.
In my case I am covered by all three scenarios. Just ask your Lord God and he will tell you.

The article is entitled: "Best signs for Blackburn Rovers" - why has it been hijacked for already discussed many times before dodgy dealing arguments??

The forums are better suited for this type of discussion under its own heading.

Back on topic, seems like there's a lot of positive outpouring of support from Newcastle fans on hearing the news that Leon is joining Rovers.

You really Rinsane. bet it was you strolling around with the armbands on, after your instigated deluge of biblical proportions the other Friday. oh and go to a proper shop in future so you won't be overcharged for your loaf.

Monsters mum wrote:
You really Rinsane. bet it was you strolling around with the armbands on, after your instigated deluge of biblical proportions the other Friday. oh and go to a proper shop in future so you won't be overcharged for your loaf.

Yeah that was me in the armbands, distributing judgement. I am the attitude adjuster. Doing my bit for consumers everywhere.

Decent signings although how far over the hill Murphy is we will have to see. Also we need to see who goes in the other direction. Signing Best and Murphy plus some Portuguese kid won't be enough to replace Robinson, Givet, Dann, Olsson Yakubu, Formica and anyone else who goes.

To "all the out" brigade," the dark forces", "I"will not set foot in Ewood" etc, and "I will only attend away matches", Blueblood is quite right. The LT should keep open a new thread for you all to squable with each other.

I am still of the opinion that the protesting at home games last season had an adverse effect on the performance of the team. If this is to happen at away matches next season, then BRFC have only one solution. Make away games all ticket, and sell to season ticket holders only. That way the true supporter will be able to encourage the team forward, time will tell if this is the correct course of action.

Kean should have gone long ago, however, he is still here and there is nothing more the supporters can constructively do. Results in the opening games of the new season will seal the manager's fate, but I for one hope for a successful start to the season, not for the sake of Kean, but for BRFC. Points in the bag are far more attractive than sacking the manager and playing "catch up".

Things in the past have been in a real mess, however, you have to ask yourself why would Murphy and Best sign for the Rovers in view of past problems. Venkys at last have seem to come to their senses, all far to late, but it appears to have happened. Communication is coming from the club, selective I know, but when do football clubs and businesses open up to everything. In my business I am selective as to what is available to others, it is purely business common sense.

Just going into the air raid shelter I still have in my garden from WW2!!

Keep smiling, guys, only my opinion!!

keanoutofrovers wrote:
Decent signings although how far over the hill Murphy is we will have to see. Also we need to see who goes in the other direction. Signing Best and Murphy plus some Portuguese kid won't be enough to replace Robinson, Givet, Dann, Olsson Yakubu, Formica and anyone else who goes.

well lets not knock em just yet... dont forget the old players are also the players who couldnt be bothered to play for the club, not just managers fault, players are over rated, new blood all round... its a start isnt it? yes ts too late, blackburn are in championship, but action is now taken place, so i think supportthe cluband try o back kean a little ( NOT) lol but lets support new blood not the old jokers as they didnt care aswell as anyone else... If was manager id sack the players who couldnt be bothered to play for the club... they were a joke as much as the manager and dippy venkeys

Best and Murphy, are both good signings for a start at achieving our place back in the premiership, plus a few more like them. Good tradesmen professional footballers, are what are needed to get out of the championship. The underperforming players of last season need to to be sold, so as not to contaminate these new players with their negativity. If they didn't want to play for us last year, they will be even less enthusiastic about doing it this year. All I ask, is for players to be committed to the cause, and give us a realistic chance of getting out of the championship. The Kean situation will right itself in time, as I think he has only the first ten games, to show where we are heading, or he will have run out of excuses, and be told to go. I don't think Venky's have enough stupidity left in them, to face another fan's revolt, for another season.

Its too bad that " George Best" has passed as he would fit right in with Venkys plans for the team..........and at a young 66 years of age he was just perfect for that experience the team needs to get back in the Premier League!( and he would have come for free )

A Darener wrote:
burner wrote:
All I want to read about is Kean's departure.Andmay as well round up to be fair :)

I don't think Venky's have enough stupidity left in them, to face another fan's revolt, for another season."

But they must have! Kean is still there!

flyingv1 wrote:
To "all the out" brigade," the dark forces", "I"will not set foot in Ewood" etc, and "I will only attend away matches", Blueblood is quite right. The LT should keep open a new thread for you all to squable with each other. I am still of the opinion that the protesting at home games last season had an adverse effect on the performance of the team. If this is to happen at away matches next season, then BRFC have only one solution. Make away games all ticket, and sell to season ticket holders only. That way the true supporter will be able to encourage the team forward, time will tell if this is the correct course of action. Kean should have gone long ago, however, he is still here and there is nothing more the supporters can constructively do. Results in the opening games of the new season will seal the manager's fate, but I for one hope for a successful start to the season, not for the sake of Kean, but for BRFC. Points in the bag are far more attractive than sacking the manager and playing "catch up". Things in the past have been in a real mess, however, you have to ask yourself why would Murphy and Best sign for the Rovers in view of past problems. Venkys at last have seem to come to their senses, all far to late, but it appears to have happened. Communication is coming from the club, selective I know, but when do football clubs and businesses open up to everything. In my business I am selective as to what is available to others, it is purely business common sense. Just going into the air raid shelter I still have in my garden from WW2!! Keep smiling, guys, only my opinion!!

can you please stop being so sensible!! keeping debates on topic? are you stark raving mad!?!? :)
well said indeed.

i haven't really seen enough of best to be convinced one way or another. looking at the options for replacing yak, i think we have to be realistic and think that this is probably about as good as we could hope for now we're a championship club. i have an inkling that best will be one of those players that can bag a load of goals in the championship, but always falls short in the prem. let's hope he gets chance to prove me wrong on that last point!
i know gomes is another very long shot, but having that kind of experienced backup is not too bad an idea. he's pretty good in the air, so may be a decent impact player who can sneak a goal or two when we need one.

flyingv1 wrote:
To "all the out" brigade," the dark forces", "I"will not set foot in Ewood" etc, and "I will only attend away matches", Blueblood is quite right. The LT should keep open a new thread for you all to squable with each other.

I am still of the opinion that the protesting at home games last season had an adverse effect on the performance of the team. If this is to happen at away matches next season, then BRFC have only one solution. Make away games all ticket, and sell to season ticket holders only. That way the true supporter will be able to encourage the team forward, time will tell if this is the correct course of action.

Kean should have gone long ago, however, he is still here and there is nothing more the supporters can constructively do. Results in the opening games of the new season will seal the manager's fate, but I for one hope for a successful start to the season, not for the sake of Kean, but for BRFC. Points in the bag are far more attractive than sacking the manager and playing "catch up".

Things in the past have been in a real mess, however, you have to ask yourself why would Murphy and Best sign for the Rovers in view of past problems. Venkys at last have seem to come to their senses, all far to late, but it appears to have happened. Communication is coming from the club, selective I know, but when do football clubs and businesses open up to everything. In my business I am selective as to what is available to others, it is purely business common sense.

Just going into the air raid shelter I still have in my garden from WW2!!

Keep smiling, guys, only my opinion!!

A voice of sanity amongst the hysteria.

Well done!

The fans cannot expect to be listened to unless they also accept that their actions on match day also have a bearing on the outcome of the game and league table position.

The negativity at Ewood is worth a goal start to the opposition.

I would like to see all the Kean Out chants cease with the kick-off whistle and be kept on hold until the final whistle.

If anyone expects next season to be easy because we are in the Championship they need to think again. It is a horrible league and the players will need all the support they can get.

Let's not forget that the current rot at Ewood started before Kean became boss with the booing and barracking of our own players by ur very own morons on the terraces. A very small number of fans were involved but their actions were very damaging. Some contributors on here would have us believe that Rovers fans epitomise loyalty and fervour. Nothing is further than the truth. Even on a good day Ewood is like a morgue.

There is not one Rovers fan who does not want Kean Out but the fact is we will be starting this vital season with him in charge and I for one want to see us winning games and challenging for promotion - even if this does strengthen Kean's position.

Sport is about winning - not crying about people's characters or personalities.

Let's get one thing straight, once and for all. The FANS are in NO way responsible for the state of affairs at the Rovers.
They cannot be blamed for any of the goings on there. Their only interest is seeing the survival of the club sooner rather than later, by any means at their disposal.

Let's get one thing straight, once and for all. The FANS are in NO way responsible for the state of affairs at the Rovers.
They cannot be blamed for any of the goings on there. Their only interest is seeing the survival of the club sooner rather than later, by any means at their disposal.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

carlmc wrote:
It seems as though Money is being spent on attempt to get back to the premier league at the first time of asking.

I personally am still concerned about what has gone on and what the BRAG information passed on to the authorities was. The sooner the information is out the better, as the supporters are enitled to know exactly what the wrong doings are. I know plenty are boycotting next year, but that doesn't mean we love the club any less.

If you wanted to know what infomation was past to the PL, sportsminister etc then you should have gone to the meeting.
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I'm not gonna spell it out to you but I will say that it is simply STAGGERING - the biggest football coruption story this country has ever seen, bar NON and puts the signing of a couple of "useful signings" into very minor persective.

I think you need to be a bit more of a drama queen, keep away from the sharp knife drawer.

baldie wrote:
Bloke on Radio Lancs earlier who is doing a documentary on Rovers under the Venky's. He said he had investigated the conspiracy theories,his words not mine, and had reached a dead end in each case.He didn't believe any of them had any substance. He's tried meeting Kean and Venky's,both with no joy,but has arranged a meeting with Shebby Singh. Think he's on in full this week.

The dossier produced by BRAG, including authenticated evidence was read by Jack Straw, Jake Berry and Graham Jones before submission to the government and the football authorities. The MP's were sufficiently convinced to put their names to it. The process will be long and frustrating but the truth will out, eventually.

lowelife wrote:

baldie wrote:
Bloke on Radio Lancs earlier who is doing a documentary on Rovers under the Venky's. He said he had investigated the conspiracy theories,his words not mine, and had reached a dead end in each case.He didn't believe any of them had any substance. He's tried meeting Kean and Venky's,both with no joy,but has arranged a meeting with Shebby Singh. Think he's on in full this week.

The dossier produced by BRAG, including authenticated evidence was read by Jack Straw, Jake Berry and Graham Jones before submission to the government and the football authorities. The MP's were sufficiently convinced to put their names to it. The process will be long and frustrating but the truth will out, eventually.

Cheers Mulder

Nothing is relevant until Kean is sacked. Simple.

katrew wrote:
I welcome the signing but when the season starts and the incoming and outgoings at the club are analysed I am quite certain the squad will be significantly smaller and Venky's will have made a good profit from the selling. Unfortunately their misplaced cultutral pride will be their undoing as they are sticking with Kean come what may to prove a point to the fans. The team will be mid table at best and their best chance of an immediate return to the premier league will have been squandered before the new season even starts.
Kean out
Venky's out

This is my view also.
It is their pride that is stopping them from changing the manager.
Whether this will prove to be folly on their part, we shall have to wait and see.
As for the money being spent, I like you don't buy into it. If you consider their 'dealings so far and then consider the 'likely' out dealings yet to transpire. Then add the incoming parachute payments. Then the promised £5m min 'investment' per window. To spend on the two latest guys is not so big a deal.
As said if they really wante to fire the support up they only need to do one thing. But they won't, so I am not buying into any of this.
It is normally commendable to give give everyone/anyone plenty of chance to come good, but in all honesty I believe SK has been given more than his fair chance.
For me SK is currently at best a potential Div 1 standard manager.
There is many a more illustrious manager attempted promotion from the Champs and failed, so omens are not particularly good.

As per Newcastle Chronicle, NUFC bought Best for £1.5m in January 2010, and now sold him on for £3m, with add-ons if we are promoted.
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NUFC fans say he is a 100% trier and although not up to EPL requirements could do a good job for us.
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They think it was great business for them.

dallydally wrote:
Another piece of good news and much as I detest Kean he clearly has something to persuade these guys to come down to the Championship. I don't believe its just a question of money; they must believe there is potential at Rovers. All that said, if early results don't happen he will be on his way

HAHA OF COURSE HE WILL! THEYLL SACK HIM AS SOON AS RESULTS TURN POOR, IM SURE OF IT! THERES NO WAY THEY'LL HOLD ONTO HIM IF HE DRAGS THE CLUB DOWN, NO WAY!

Please get 2 Best Defenders also............for next season to get some "CLEAN SHEETS".............
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