Pressure increasing on Desai to sack Blackburn Rovers boss Kean

BLACKBURN Rovers co-owner Anuradha Desai is coming under heavy pressure to axe Steve Kean – but the under-fire boss remains confident he has her backing.

Club matriarch Desai has the final say on all Rovers decisions and has been the one to keep the faith in Kean throughout recent struggles.

Board members, close advisers and even fellow co-owners Venkatesh and Balaji Rao are understood to believe there needs to be a change of manager, but chief Desai is yet to be convinced.

An expected trip by Venky’s to Rovers’ final game of the season at Chelsea tomorrow will not happen with Kean now expected to arrive at their Pune HQ on Tuesday for talks.

Desai is understood to be ready to back her man but increasing media pressure from within India, plus heavy calls for Kean to go within her trusted camp, could yet persuade her to make a change.

Desai is also understood to be very concerned about the low season ticket uptake with large sections of Rovers fans ready to vote against Kean with their feet next campaign.

Kean himself will look to persuade Desai he is the man to lead Rovers back into the Premier League and is understood to be ready to suggest a potential new management team, in the wake of deputy chief executive Paul Hunt’s dismissal.

Neither Balaji or Venkatesh Rao were prepared to discuss Kean’s future during media interviews in India, increasing the uncertainty on the manager’s future.

“In the last month we have made the club debt free. We are here for the long haul,” Balaji Rao said. “We have absolutely no intentions of selling the club. Me, my brother Venkatesh and my sister (Anuradha Desai), our entire family, has fallen in love with the club. We cannot sell it.

“We were certainly not expecting to be relegated. It was the saddest bit of news for me since my mother passed away.

“But we will bounce back within a year.

“There will be lots of changes in the near future. We will bring in changes within the next month.

“We cannot hold back players.

“Those who want to leave may do so. But let me tell you, 80 per cent of the players want to stay.”

Meanwhile Ryan Nelsen is in a dispute with the club over a ‘golden handshake’ agreement following his January exit.

Nelsen agreed a pay-off to leave with 18 months still on his deal but has stopped being paid a monthly sum.

Canadian starlet Junior Hoilett has moved a step nearer his Ewood exit after giving notice on his Brockhall property lease. Sources close to Hoilett say he will definitely leave this summer.

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12:08pm Sat 12 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

An employee cannot sack the employer...that would go against general work ethics.
An employee cannot sack the employer...that would go against general work ethics. smellthecoffee

12:09pm Sat 12 May 12

beardy1967 says...

you stupid thick cow, you are has deluded has the bald-headed-convicte
d-drunk-driver-scott
ish-wankshaft known in these parts as keanochio
you stupid thick cow, you are has deluded has the bald-headed-convicte d-drunk-driver-scott ish-wankshaft known in these parts as keanochio beardy1967

12:10pm Sat 12 May 12

RobbyRover says...

Kean is suggesting new board members? He's the team manager...

What does he have over Desai?! If they take heed of his suggestions then this is getting stranger and stranger...

We'll end up with bloody Anderson as CEO!
Kean is suggesting new board members? He's the team manager... What does he have over Desai?! If they take heed of his suggestions then this is getting stranger and stranger... We'll end up with bloody Anderson as CEO! RobbyRover

12:12pm Sat 12 May 12

wampam says...

paul hunt's situation is not clear. why was he hired and then fired ? who appointed him and why. ? To sack Keane maybe ? Who stopped it happening ? Guess ?
paul hunt's situation is not clear. why was he hired and then fired ? who appointed him and why. ? To sack Keane maybe ? Who stopped it happening ? Guess ? wampam

12:12pm Sat 12 May 12

alfa111 says...

Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.
Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T. alfa111

12:13pm Sat 12 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

RobbyRover wrote:
Kean is suggesting new board members? He's the team manager...

What does he have over Desai?! If they take heed of his suggestions then this is getting stranger and stranger...

We'll end up with bloody Anderson as CEO!
Like I stated on another story...clearly Kean has more to the ownership of the club than first met the eye. I firmly believe now that him and Anderson are silent partners in an asset stripping exercise. I have contacted both the FA and Premier League to identify whether signed declarations are required by new owners to reveal "silent partners" as part of their fit and proper tests.
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Kean is suggesting new board members? He's the team manager... What does he have over Desai?! If they take heed of his suggestions then this is getting stranger and stranger... We'll end up with bloody Anderson as CEO![/p][/quote]Like I stated on another story...clearly Kean has more to the ownership of the club than first met the eye. I firmly believe now that him and Anderson are silent partners in an asset stripping exercise. I have contacted both the FA and Premier League to identify whether signed declarations are required by new owners to reveal "silent partners" as part of their fit and proper tests. smellthecoffee

12:17pm Sat 12 May 12

Russ ov the rovers says...

...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC?

This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :)

...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing
...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC? This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :) ...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing Russ ov the rovers

12:18pm Sat 12 May 12

BashirShah says...

Keep the faith ye Rover faithful and vote with your feet. At this time every season ticket holder who renews their ticket is a likely contributor to the decline of BRFC in the hands of the Bald one.

Stay away and let those living in their glass palaces know that the foundation of any football club starts and ends with its supporters.

RTID!
Keep the faith ye Rover faithful and vote with your feet. At this time every season ticket holder who renews their ticket is a likely contributor to the decline of BRFC in the hands of the Bald one. Stay away and let those living in their glass palaces know that the foundation of any football club starts and ends with its supporters. RTID! BashirShah

12:18pm Sat 12 May 12

Dan11 says...

If Desai keeps Kean as manager:

1. Kean is either a silent owner;
2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk;
3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before.

Take your choice.
If Desai keeps Kean as manager: 1. Kean is either a silent owner; 2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk; 3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before. Take your choice. Dan11

12:19pm Sat 12 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

alfa111 wrote:
Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.
Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell.
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.[/p][/quote]Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell. smellthecoffee

12:21pm Sat 12 May 12

Dukes says...

Season ticket sales will be at an historic low unless the manager is replaced and supporters see a bright future.

Desai you have really have not listened to us and we are fed up and we cant sleep or live life because if you had sacked kean we would never been in this crap.

I prefer if you go and sell the club everything you lot have listened to any bit of advice and we going nowhere the fans we shall make a war until the end.

Get out of our club all of you lot because i cant carry on reading this and that.

just get out and nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Season ticket sales will be at an historic low unless the manager is replaced and supporters see a bright future. Desai you have really have not listened to us and we are fed up and we cant sleep or live life because if you had sacked kean we would never been in this crap. I prefer if you go and sell the club everything you lot have listened to any bit of advice and we going nowhere the fans we shall make a war until the end. Get out of our club all of you lot because i cant carry on reading this and that. just get out and nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Dukes

12:26pm Sat 12 May 12

alfa111 says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.
Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell.
Things seem to be getting a lot clearer now fella, i would even say venkys are becoming very transparent.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.[/p][/quote]Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell.[/p][/quote]Things seem to be getting a lot clearer now fella, i would even say venkys are becoming very transparent. alfa111

12:27pm Sat 12 May 12

rovertakenmb says...

Won't get too excited until he is gone and his replacement has been unveiled.

www.rovertaken.co.uk
Won't get too excited until he is gone and his replacement has been unveiled. www.rovertaken.co.uk rovertakenmb

12:33pm Sat 12 May 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.
Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell.
All things will come out, I'm certain of that, sooner rather than later.

My whole freaking live is consumed with this at the moment !

Made in Blackburn Destroyed in India

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.[/p][/quote]Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell.[/p][/quote]All things will come out, I'm certain of that, sooner rather than later. My whole freaking live is consumed with this at the moment ! Made in Blackburn Destroyed in India Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

12:33pm Sat 12 May 12

wampam says...

i really think he might go.! The beginning is nigh !
i really think he might go.! The beginning is nigh ! wampam

12:38pm Sat 12 May 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC?

This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :)

...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing
Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: ...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC? This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :) ...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing[/p][/quote]Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start. Keep Darwen Green

12:41pm Sat 12 May 12

JPB says...

`Desai is also understood to be very concerned about the low season ticket uptake with large sections of Rovers fans ready to vote against Kean with their feet next campaign.`

damned right we are :)
`Desai is also understood to be very concerned about the low season ticket uptake with large sections of Rovers fans ready to vote against Kean with their feet next campaign.` damned right we are :) JPB

12:44pm Sat 12 May 12

Brfc24138931 says...

You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ? Brfc24138931

12:44pm Sat 12 May 12

burnleyglentoran says...

Made in Blackburn.

Destroyed in India.

Laughed at in Burnley!

IN VENKYS WE TRUST
Made in Blackburn. Destroyed in India. Laughed at in Burnley! IN VENKYS WE TRUST burnleyglentoran

12:45pm Sat 12 May 12

rovers fanatic says...

No season ticket for me and my son next year but going to away games. Give them nowt.
No season ticket for me and my son next year but going to away games. Give them nowt. rovers fanatic

12:49pm Sat 12 May 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

I see that Venkys have messed the shirt up yet again. As if we weren't hexed enough.

"Blue and white opposing halves front AND BACK" i.e. the halves on the front should oppose the halves on the back.

I predict League One on the basis of the hexed shirt alone.
I see that Venkys have messed the shirt up yet again. As if we weren't hexed enough. "Blue and white opposing halves front AND BACK" i.e. the halves on the front should oppose the halves on the back. I predict League One on the basis of the hexed shirt alone. OnePostThenTheOther

12:59pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

Sorry, but I just had to get this off my chest.....

From a previous article;

Steve Kean, "......the high wage bill in place from the Walker Trust’s days had turned the club into a ‘selling one’ and it was something they (Venkys) were left with sorting out.

“For the last 10 years it has always been around that mark,” he said. “What we’ve been as a club over the past 10 years is a club that has to sell.

“When your wages are so high as a percentage of turnover you have to be a selling club. And if you look back over the last 10 years we are the club that has sold the most. We have tried to balance the books by continually selling players".



These people have shown they are totally incapable of accepting responsibility for anything negative. Venkys, through Steve Kean, now have the temerity to question the competence of the previous administration at the club.

Of course we had to sell players, it’s fundamental in how the business works. That’s the business you entered into, by the way, Ms D and the boys, in case you’d forgotten. One it would have been reasonable and sensible for you to have investigated and researched before becoming involved in. One which is operated in a slightly different way to the manufacture of poultry products or fast food outlets. One where the experience and competence of those you employ is essential whether it be for success or continued survival; these are vital qualities required by personnel in administration through to those at the coal face; the players and manager, as they are known in this trade.

Football is a labour intensive business; there are a comparatively small number of employees overall, but the largest expense is on a relatively small proportion of this number. It’s just a fact of the life Venkys have chosen. regardless of if they want to succeed or merely survive, market forces dictate they have to invest or allocate a larger proportion of the funds available in that core of front line employees. This is not to devalue the roles of those behind the scenes whose job it is to ensure the business operates correctly and efficiently. In fact their experience and competence is of significantly greater importance to the business.

Venkys spokesperson/partner (you decide) Steve Kean has not supplied any figures to validate their claim the situation when they took control of the business was untenable, as he suggested was the case. He believes this had left the club in an impossible position when signing, releasing or retaining players.

Kean describes Rovers of “becoming” a selling club, suggesting they had been forced into this position. Interestingly the only timescale mentioned for this apparent change in status was “the last 10 years” which includes approximately eight and a half years when Venkys were not involved in the club.

Kean did not refer to any specific figures for this eight and a half year period or the subsequent one and a half under Venkys tenure; let‘s have a quick look shall we?

The most recent accounts, 2010/11,the majority of which was under the Venkys ownership, show a loss approaching £19m. It is reasonable to assume there was nothing to suggest such a loss was imminent when Venkys were considering purchasing the club. The last published accounts under the previous administration showed a loss of under £2m. In round figures, that is a 950% increase.

If they are so obsessed with percentages, then it is no surprise they have become a little more, how shall we say, prudent. It would have been appropriate for them to have mentioned this frightening increase had occurred on their watch but, I repeat, the acceptance of responsibly for any and all things negative is a totally alien concept to them.

I do not have all the historic figures to hand but from memory, the club has operated at a relative low level of deficit, offset by the occasional profit from player sales, Santa Cruz for example. I cannot verify this without further investigation, but I suspect the loss of £19m in one year exceeds the total loss over the preceding nine.

Virtually every business has debt, it is the way of the business world. The art is in managing that debt, servicing the lending in a way which gives their creditors confidence in their ability to maintain the business. Allow me to quote from Paul Hunt’s recently exposed letter to Mrs Desai;

“With the bank closing in, I fear that they will look to foreclose and have the potential to implement financial restrictions upon the club that could (as a worst-case scenario) enforce administration”.

I don’t get the impression Barclays were overflowing with confidence at this stage, do you? Neither do I recall similar stories emerging when the previous administration was allegedly steering the club into financial oblivion.

The rumours Barclays had asked for an immediate cash injection late last year were also confirmed in Paul Hunt’s letter;

“As you are aware Barclays have asked for the owners to put £10m into the business. This needs to happen and I am confident that this could only be a loan as we would increase the value of the club significantly“.

Paul Hunt did not help his cause by specifying his own role and financial reward as first on his list of priorities; it gave the impression his self interest was paramount. However, the issues he raised and suggestions he made echoed and enlarged upon those in the letter a year before from Messrs Williams, Finn and Goodman. The points Hunt raised reflect the almost inevitable consequences of the problems outlined in the Williams, Finn and Goodman letter. The owners clearly have no respect for the opinion or suggested actions of the officials in situ at the club, in Paul Hunt’s case, one they had appointed. He is, rather predictably, no longer with us, of course.

It is scandalous for them to question John Williams et al for their stewardship whilst at the club. It would do them, Williams in particular, a great dis-service to be described as merely competent. John Williams was highly respected throughout the Premier League and beyond for his services to Blackburn Rovers. This is evidenced by him joining Man City; not what you would call a small town club where financial prudence was essential. It was recognition of his outstanding ability as an administrator.

Think it'll happen to you, Stevie boy?

The current situation at Blackburn Rovers is totally unconnected with the work of the previous administration. It is the disrespect shown to and eventual forced removal of experienced members of that administration which has been the catalyst.

Keeping a business viable is difficult. To suggest this club had arrived in its current state of utter chaos due to the irresponsibility shown by the owners’ predecessors is inaccurate to the point of libellous. It’s called management Mrs Desai, Messrs Rao and Mr Kean; a concept particularly alien to the latter.

Integrity, capability, responsibility, honour; virtues the like of which these scurrilous individuals can only dream.

Have they been naive? Possibly. Irresponsible? Definitely. Arrogant? Absolutely. Negligent? Grossly.

Al Capone was put away for financial irregularities, not the illegal businesses he ran or murders he committed (you‘ve seen the film). If Venkys want to remain in charge, we will not force them out by questioning their ability to run the club. Scudamore was right insofar as they had met the appropriate criteria to satisfy FA regulations. If that is so, those regulations are in need of a serious review. That wouldn’t help us now and pursuing that line of action is futile.

History shows clubs are exposed for financial irregularities. I know we don’t like him much folks, but sadly, the taxman may be our only hope. The power of the pen is mightier etc. etc. etc.

It may be a sign of desperation and something you won’t read or hear very often, but, let’s hear it for Inland Revenue, go get ’em boys.
Sorry, but I just had to get this off my chest..... From a previous article; Steve Kean, "......the high wage bill in place from the Walker Trust’s days had turned the club into a ‘selling one’ and it was something they (Venkys) were left with sorting out. “For the last 10 years it has always been around that mark,” he said. “What we’ve been as a club over the past 10 years is a club that has to sell. “When your wages are so high as a percentage of turnover you have to be a selling club. And if you look back over the last 10 years we are the club that has sold the most. We have tried to balance the books by continually selling players". These people have shown they are totally incapable of accepting responsibility for anything negative. Venkys, through Steve Kean, now have the temerity to question the competence of the previous administration at the club. Of course we had to sell players, it’s fundamental in how the business works. That’s the business you entered into, by the way, Ms D and the boys, in case you’d forgotten. One it would have been reasonable and sensible for you to have investigated and researched before becoming involved in. One which is operated in a slightly different way to the manufacture of poultry products or fast food outlets. One where the experience and competence of those you employ is essential whether it be for success or continued survival; these are vital qualities required by personnel in administration through to those at the coal face; the players and manager, as they are known in this trade. Football is a labour intensive business; there are a comparatively small number of employees overall, but the largest expense is on a relatively small proportion of this number. It’s just a fact of the life Venkys have chosen. regardless of if they want to succeed or merely survive, market forces dictate they have to invest or allocate a larger proportion of the funds available in that core of front line employees. This is not to devalue the roles of those behind the scenes whose job it is to ensure the business operates correctly and efficiently. In fact their experience and competence is of significantly greater importance to the business. Venkys spokesperson/partner (you decide) Steve Kean has not supplied any figures to validate their claim the situation when they took control of the business was untenable, as he suggested was the case. He believes this had left the club in an impossible position when signing, releasing or retaining players. Kean describes Rovers of “becoming” a selling club, suggesting they had been forced into this position. Interestingly the only timescale mentioned for this apparent change in status was “the last 10 years” which includes approximately eight and a half years when Venkys were not involved in the club. Kean did not refer to any specific figures for this eight and a half year period or the subsequent one and a half under Venkys tenure; let‘s have a quick look shall we? The most recent accounts, 2010/11,the majority of which was under the Venkys ownership, show a loss approaching £19m. It is reasonable to assume there was nothing to suggest such a loss was imminent when Venkys were considering purchasing the club. The last published accounts under the previous administration showed a loss of under £2m. In round figures, that is a 950% increase. If they are so obsessed with percentages, then it is no surprise they have become a little more, how shall we say, prudent. It would have been appropriate for them to have mentioned this frightening increase had occurred on their watch but, I repeat, the acceptance of responsibly for any and all things negative is a totally alien concept to them. I do not have all the historic figures to hand but from memory, the club has operated at a relative low level of deficit, offset by the occasional profit from player sales, Santa Cruz for example. I cannot verify this without further investigation, but I suspect the loss of £19m in one year exceeds the total loss over the preceding nine. Virtually every business has debt, it is the way of the business world. The art is in managing that debt, servicing the lending in a way which gives their creditors confidence in their ability to maintain the business. Allow me to quote from Paul Hunt’s recently exposed letter to Mrs Desai; “With the bank closing in, I fear that they will look to foreclose and have the potential to implement financial restrictions upon the club that could (as a worst-case scenario) enforce administration”. I don’t get the impression Barclays were overflowing with confidence at this stage, do you? Neither do I recall similar stories emerging when the previous administration was allegedly steering the club into financial oblivion. The rumours Barclays had asked for an immediate cash injection late last year were also confirmed in Paul Hunt’s letter; “As you are aware Barclays have asked for the owners to put £10m into the business. This needs to happen and I am confident that this could only be a loan as we would increase the value of the club significantly“. Paul Hunt did not help his cause by specifying his own role and financial reward as first on his list of priorities; it gave the impression his self interest was paramount. However, the issues he raised and suggestions he made echoed and enlarged upon those in the letter a year before from Messrs Williams, Finn and Goodman. The points Hunt raised reflect the almost inevitable consequences of the problems outlined in the Williams, Finn and Goodman letter. The owners clearly have no respect for the opinion or suggested actions of the officials in situ at the club, in Paul Hunt’s case, one they had appointed. He is, rather predictably, no longer with us, of course. It is scandalous for them to question John Williams et al for their stewardship whilst at the club. It would do them, Williams in particular, a great dis-service to be described as merely competent. John Williams was highly respected throughout the Premier League and beyond for his services to Blackburn Rovers. This is evidenced by him joining Man City; not what you would call a small town club where financial prudence was essential. It was recognition of his outstanding ability as an administrator. Think it'll happen to you, Stevie boy? The current situation at Blackburn Rovers is totally unconnected with the work of the previous administration. It is the disrespect shown to and eventual forced removal of experienced members of that administration which has been the catalyst. Keeping a business viable is difficult. To suggest this club had arrived in its current state of utter chaos due to the irresponsibility shown by the owners’ predecessors is inaccurate to the point of libellous. It’s called management Mrs Desai, Messrs Rao and Mr Kean; a concept particularly alien to the latter. Integrity, capability, responsibility, honour; virtues the like of which these scurrilous individuals can only dream. Have they been naive? Possibly. Irresponsible? Definitely. Arrogant? Absolutely. Negligent? Grossly. Al Capone was put away for financial irregularities, not the illegal businesses he ran or murders he committed (you‘ve seen the film). If Venkys want to remain in charge, we will not force them out by questioning their ability to run the club. Scudamore was right insofar as they had met the appropriate criteria to satisfy FA regulations. If that is so, those regulations are in need of a serious review. That wouldn’t help us now and pursuing that line of action is futile. History shows clubs are exposed for financial irregularities. I know we don’t like him much folks, but sadly, the taxman may be our only hope. The power of the pen is mightier etc. etc. etc. It may be a sign of desperation and something you won’t read or hear very often, but, let’s hear it for Inland Revenue, go get ’em boys. samsno2millfan

1:00pm Sat 12 May 12

Jimmy Jambone says...

Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
[quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000. Jimmy Jambone

1:02pm Sat 12 May 12

beardy1967 says...

the weasel will worm his way out yet again

i think kean ,mrs kean and desai
are all swingers that's why he will never leave
the weasel will worm his way out yet again i think kean ,mrs kean and desai are all swingers that's why he will never leave beardy1967

1:04pm Sat 12 May 12

philmoulden says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.
Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell.
All things will come out, I'm certain of that, sooner rather than later.

My whole freaking live is consumed with this at the moment !

Made in Blackburn Destroyed in India

Arte et labore
THATS WHAT I CALL HEART AND SOUL OF THE CLUB , keep going ,things have to change for the better with guys like you on the case
love rovers ,,hate the trio ,
V.A.K. venkys andserson and kean ,hoovering up the assets of
B.R.F.C
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.[/p][/quote]Yep...Kean will appoint himself director of football and make Eric Black the manager. I am certain that will be in their chain of thoughts. Wouldn't wash with the supporters though. The sooner Kean, Anderson and Venkys come clean about the whole affair the better chance they stand of staying out of a prison cell.[/p][/quote]All things will come out, I'm certain of that, sooner rather than later. My whole freaking live is consumed with this at the moment ! Made in Blackburn Destroyed in India Arte et labore[/p][/quote]THATS WHAT I CALL HEART AND SOUL OF THE CLUB , keep going ,things have to change for the better with guys like you on the case love rovers ,,hate the trio , V.A.K. venkys andserson and kean ,hoovering up the assets of B.R.F.C philmoulden

1:05pm Sat 12 May 12

champs95 says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Made in Blackburn.

Destroyed in India.

Laughed at in Burnley!

IN VENKYS WE TRUST
You are right to laugh, we've become a joke of a club but this will make it even harder for you to accept losing 6 points to us again next season.
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Made in Blackburn. Destroyed in India. Laughed at in Burnley! IN VENKYS WE TRUST[/p][/quote]You are right to laugh, we've become a joke of a club but this will make it even harder for you to accept losing 6 points to us again next season. champs95

1:06pm Sat 12 May 12

tonto says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Made in Blackburn.

Destroyed in India.

Laughed at in Burnley!

IN VENKYS WE TRUST
But most importantly Rovers are still better,bigger & greater than Burnley even with our problems. Let the domination continue with another six points
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: Made in Blackburn. Destroyed in India. Laughed at in Burnley! IN VENKYS WE TRUST[/p][/quote]But most importantly Rovers are still better,bigger & greater than Burnley even with our problems. Let the domination continue with another six points tonto

1:07pm Sat 12 May 12

makaveli96 says...

My grandad said this is what would happen when women got the vote!

Now weve one running our town!

Off with her head!
My grandad said this is what would happen when women got the vote! Now weve one running our town! Off with her head! makaveli96

1:08pm Sat 12 May 12

makaveli96 says...

My grandad said this is what would happen when we gave India back!

Now weve one running our town!

Off with her head!
My grandad said this is what would happen when we gave India back! Now weve one running our town! Off with her head! makaveli96

1:09pm Sat 12 May 12

makaveli96 says...

My grandad said this is what would happen when Henry 8th sold us out!

Now weve one running our town!

Off with her head!
My grandad said this is what would happen when Henry 8th sold us out! Now weve one running our town! Off with her head! makaveli96

1:09pm Sat 12 May 12

A Darener says...

All today's articles seem to have a positive spin for a change. Gives us hope. All the fans would love to see the actual ST sales figures. I suspect they are in the low thousands, so to all those who have contributed to the Venky's holiday fund please rescind your contribution and ask for a refund. The momentum of getting rid of SK and the Venky's is gathering pace. Onwards and upwards!
All today's articles seem to have a positive spin for a change. Gives us hope. All the fans would love to see the actual ST sales figures. I suspect they are in the low thousands, so to all those who have contributed to the Venky's holiday fund please rescind your contribution and ask for a refund. The momentum of getting rid of SK and the Venky's is gathering pace. Onwards and upwards! A Darener

1:11pm Sat 12 May 12

friedal says...

Seems like nelsens another ex-Rovers employee having a bad week at the Venkys expense. How will SK manage to put a positive spin on season ticket numbers in Pune?
Seems like nelsens another ex-Rovers employee having a bad week at the Venkys expense. How will SK manage to put a positive spin on season ticket numbers in Pune? friedal

1:13pm Sat 12 May 12

fabinribblevalley says...

A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.
A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own. fabinribblevalley

1:13pm Sat 12 May 12

fabinribblevalley says...

A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.
A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own. fabinribblevalley

1:13pm Sat 12 May 12

makaveli96 says...

How can Mrs D sleep with a bald ginger with a Scottish accent?
How can Mrs D sleep with a bald ginger with a Scottish accent? makaveli96

1:17pm Sat 12 May 12

makaveli96 says...

RobbyRover wrote:
Kean is suggesting new board members? He's the team manager...

What does he have over Desai?! If they take heed of his suggestions then this is getting stranger and stranger...

We'll end up with bloody Anderson as CEO!
Has he tackled her from behind?
[quote][p][bold]RobbyRover[/bold] wrote: Kean is suggesting new board members? He's the team manager... What does he have over Desai?! If they take heed of his suggestions then this is getting stranger and stranger... We'll end up with bloody Anderson as CEO![/p][/quote]Has he tackled her from behind? makaveli96

1:19pm Sat 12 May 12

BlueSkies says...

I still think he's unsackable, as he's a key part of the controlling group of people who are effectively running (should be ruining) BRFC.
I still think he's unsackable, as he's a key part of the controlling group of people who are effectively running (should be ruining) BRFC. BlueSkies

1:22pm Sat 12 May 12

UKdarran says...

Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
And they were still higher than Burn*eys!
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.[/p][/quote]And they were still higher than Burn*eys! UKdarran

1:24pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
Still can't accept it can you?

You mustn't have had much sleep over the last twenty years, little wonder you are always so grumpy.

It happened Jimbo, yes, it really did.
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.[/p][/quote]Still can't accept it can you? You mustn't have had much sleep over the last twenty years, little wonder you are always so grumpy. It happened Jimbo, yes, it really did. samsno2millfan

1:31pm Sat 12 May 12

xrayspex77 says...

BashirShah wrote:
Keep the faith ye Rover faithful and vote with your feet. At this time every season ticket holder who renews their ticket is a likely contributor to the decline of BRFC in the hands of the Bald one.

Stay away and let those living in their glass palaces know that the foundation of any football club starts and ends with its supporters.

RTID!
Lol The bald one!
[quote][p][bold]BashirShah[/bold] wrote: Keep the faith ye Rover faithful and vote with your feet. At this time every season ticket holder who renews their ticket is a likely contributor to the decline of BRFC in the hands of the Bald one. Stay away and let those living in their glass palaces know that the foundation of any football club starts and ends with its supporters. RTID![/p][/quote]Lol The bald one! xrayspex77

1:33pm Sat 12 May 12

xrayspex77 says...

Dan11 wrote:
If Desai keeps Kean as manager:

1. Kean is either a silent owner;
2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk;
3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before.

Take your choice.
No 3 for me
[quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: If Desai keeps Kean as manager: 1. Kean is either a silent owner; 2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk; 3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before. Take your choice.[/p][/quote]No 3 for me xrayspex77

1:34pm Sat 12 May 12

bit nearer than a long way from home says...

Stay at home

Travel away

Until Kean and Venkys disappear.

"They ask you to pay, but answer them nay"
Stay at home Travel away Until Kean and Venkys disappear. "They ask you to pay, but answer them nay" bit nearer than a long way from home

1:35pm Sat 12 May 12

Cyprusblue says...

Kean himself will look to persuade Desai he is the man to lead Rovers back into the Premier League and is understood to be ready to suggest a potential new management team, in the wake of deputy chief executive Paul Hunt’s dismissal.

What the hell is going on? One of the very worst managers in the history of football never mind BRFC is suggesting a new management structure???

Only at BRFC in 2012. Go away and die Kean.
Kean himself will look to persuade Desai he is the man to lead Rovers back into the Premier League and is understood to be ready to suggest a potential new management team, in the wake of deputy chief executive Paul Hunt’s dismissal. What the hell is going on? One of the very worst managers in the history of football never mind BRFC is suggesting a new management structure??? Only at BRFC in 2012. Go away and die Kean. Cyprusblue

1:36pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

UKdarran wrote:
Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
And they were still higher than Burn*eys!
I wouldn't know and don't really care, its not worth the effort.

The differences are probably so small you'd be relying on decimal points.

A few figures would help though if we really want to put this pathetic ongoing squabble to bed.

Any to hand Jimbo? Like I say, I can't be bothered.
[quote][p][bold]UKdarran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.[/p][/quote]And they were still higher than Burn*eys![/p][/quote]I wouldn't know and don't really care, its not worth the effort. The differences are probably so small you'd be relying on decimal points. A few figures would help though if we really want to put this pathetic ongoing squabble to bed. Any to hand Jimbo? Like I say, I can't be bothered. samsno2millfan

1:36pm Sat 12 May 12

alfa111 says...

makaveli96 wrote:
How can Mrs D sleep with a bald ginger with a Scottish accent?
Did no one notice last time madam desia came to Blackburn, Lancs,Telgraph had a picture of her with kean on the training ground, she had a lovely tartan scarf and top on, obviously she likes keeping warm with a wee bit of tartan.
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: How can Mrs D sleep with a bald ginger with a Scottish accent?[/p][/quote]Did no one notice last time madam desia came to Blackburn, Lancs,Telgraph had a picture of her with kean on the training ground, she had a lovely tartan scarf and top on, obviously she likes keeping warm with a wee bit of tartan. alfa111

1:37pm Sat 12 May 12

beardy1967 says...

fabinribblevalley wrote:
A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.
i agree with your sentiments. but to say you are not one of the mob
how dare you.why don't you just say down with the peasants.
we are all brothers in arms now dude regardless how we protest
[quote][p][bold]fabinribblevalley[/bold] wrote: A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.[/p][/quote]i agree with your sentiments. but to say you are not one of the mob how dare you.why don't you just say down with the peasants. we are all brothers in arms now dude regardless how we protest beardy1967

1:46pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

"E-I-E-I-E-I-O
Down the football league we go
When we're playing Chorley
This what we sing
We were Rovers, Blackburn Rovers
Kean and Venkys are the most irresponsible, negligent, incompetent bunch of dishonourable individuals ever to run a football club"

Sorry, I just don't seem to be able to get the last bit to scan.
"E-I-E-I-E-I-O Down the football league we go When we're playing Chorley This what we sing We were Rovers, Blackburn Rovers Kean and Venkys are the most irresponsible, negligent, incompetent bunch of dishonourable individuals ever to run a football club" Sorry, I just don't seem to be able to get the last bit to scan. samsno2millfan

1:46pm Sat 12 May 12

Manuel Hung says...

She is NOT coming under increasing pressure at all.

The people of India couldn't give a to55 about Blackburn Rovers. In fact they quite despise that fact that the Venkys chose to buy an English club rather than put their money into Pune FC?

The only people who are bothered about the Venkys management strategy and want kean removing are Blackburn Rovers fans. All 1,200 of them.

Stamp your feet all you want but Kean ain't going anywhere and the owners are not going to be told what to do by a bunch of scruffs from Blackburn.

Get used to it!!
She is NOT coming under increasing pressure at all. The people of India couldn't give a to55 about Blackburn Rovers. In fact they quite despise that fact that the Venkys chose to buy an English club rather than put their money into Pune FC? The only people who are bothered about the Venkys management strategy and want kean removing are Blackburn Rovers fans. All 1,200 of them. Stamp your feet all you want but Kean ain't going anywhere and the owners are not going to be told what to do by a bunch of scruffs from Blackburn. Get used to it!! Manuel Hung

1:50pm Sat 12 May 12

James.NoNayNever says...

I just hope and prey the weasel does not worm his way out of gettin the sack,,,I will guarentee to the club I will renew my,my dads (oap) and my sons season ticket if they sack him,,if not I will have to wait till he has gone,,,Kean Out
I just hope and prey the weasel does not worm his way out of gettin the sack,,,I will guarentee to the club I will renew my,my dads (oap) and my sons season ticket if they sack him,,if not I will have to wait till he has gone,,,Kean Out James.NoNayNever

1:50pm Sat 12 May 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

rovers fanatic wrote:
No season ticket for me and my son next year but going to away games. Give them nowt.
Same here, don't give them a penny until the manager is sacked! I could just about put up with Venkys if they where more open and honest and if they got us a half decent manager, these two things and a decent tranfer budget could be a start if they are not going to sell, I can't see these things happening though.
[quote][p][bold]rovers fanatic[/bold] wrote: No season ticket for me and my son next year but going to away games. Give them nowt.[/p][/quote]Same here, don't give them a penny until the manager is sacked! I could just about put up with Venkys if they where more open and honest and if they got us a half decent manager, these two things and a decent tranfer budget could be a start if they are not going to sell, I can't see these things happening though. Lancs - pensioner

1:52pm Sat 12 May 12

A Darener says...

samsno2millfan wrote:
"E-I-E-I-E-I-O
Down the football league we go
When we're playing Chorley
This what we sing
We were Rovers, Blackburn Rovers
Kean and Venkys are the most irresponsible, negligent, incompetent bunch of dishonourable individuals ever to run a football club"

Sorry, I just don't seem to be able to get the last bit to scan.
How about...Kenny was our King?
[quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: "E-I-E-I-E-I-O Down the football league we go When we're playing Chorley This what we sing We were Rovers, Blackburn Rovers Kean and Venkys are the most irresponsible, negligent, incompetent bunch of dishonourable individuals ever to run a football club" Sorry, I just don't seem to be able to get the last bit to scan.[/p][/quote]How about...Kenny was our King? A Darener

1:53pm Sat 12 May 12

petemcglinn says...

Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teensIt won't be 1,300 though will it ?
RTID
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teensIt won't be 1,300 though will it ? RTID petemcglinn

1:56pm Sat 12 May 12

Rovers75 says...

Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
Seeing as all you dingles are not only obsessed with Rovers but attendances aswell (which I assume is to convince yourselves your the big club you think you are and far superior to Rovers) here's a couple of stats for you courtesy of Wikipedia:
Burnleys 1986-87 Average home attendance: 3,257
Lowest v Bolton: 1,465. Your highest that year was the Leyton Orient game which I've heard anywhere between 17,000- 20,00 were packed into the wonderful Turf Moor in a bid to keep you in league football. In actual fact there was under 16,00....15,696 to be exact. Well done. Gold star. Your highest home attendance the previous year was....drum roll....4,279! Wow. Now don't get me wrong Jimmy, I'm not suggesting Rovers were getting monster crowds during the 80's, far from it but before you bleat on about attendances as some sort of badge of honour, at least take the time to realise that your support, whilst admittedly quite good for a medieval rat pit, has at times also been abysmal. How refreshing that was to enter a bit of dingle banter, rather than have to post about golf ball head or the poison from Pune.
[quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.[/p][/quote]Seeing as all you dingles are not only obsessed with Rovers but attendances aswell (which I assume is to convince yourselves your the big club you think you are and far superior to Rovers) here's a couple of stats for you courtesy of Wikipedia: Burnleys 1986-87 Average home attendance: 3,257 Lowest v Bolton: 1,465. Your highest that year was the Leyton Orient game which I've heard anywhere between 17,000- 20,00 were packed into the wonderful Turf Moor in a bid to keep you in league football. In actual fact there was under 16,00....15,696 to be exact. Well done. Gold star. Your highest home attendance the previous year was....drum roll....4,279! Wow. Now don't get me wrong Jimmy, I'm not suggesting Rovers were getting monster crowds during the 80's, far from it but before you bleat on about attendances as some sort of badge of honour, at least take the time to realise that your support, whilst admittedly quite good for a medieval rat pit, has at times also been abysmal. How refreshing that was to enter a bit of dingle banter, rather than have to post about golf ball head or the poison from Pune. Rovers75

1:57pm Sat 12 May 12

Ryanb74 says...

I imagine if Rovers beat Chelsea tomorrow Kean's post match interview will go something like: "The lads did half of what I asked of them and I can't ask any more than that!"

seriously, can we all club together to get him sectioned unter the mental health act? Or can the LET just stop publishing anything he says because it is all clearly horse-sh*t.
I imagine if Rovers beat Chelsea tomorrow Kean's post match interview will go something like: "The lads did half of what I asked of them and I can't ask any more than that!" seriously, can we all club together to get him sectioned unter the mental health act? Or can the LET just stop publishing anything he says because it is all clearly horse-sh*t. Ryanb74

1:57pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

bit nearer than a long way from home wrote:
Stay at home Travel away Until Kean and Venkys disappear. "They ask you to pay, but answer them nay"
I second that motion, m'lud.

Good name by the way; and lyric.

Work on the rest of it and we may be onto a winner.

Respect, bro.
[quote][p][bold]bit nearer than a long way from home[/bold] wrote: Stay at home Travel away Until Kean and Venkys disappear. "They ask you to pay, but answer them nay"[/p][/quote]I second that motion, m'lud. Good name by the way; and lyric. Work on the rest of it and we may be onto a winner. Respect, bro. samsno2millfan

1:59pm Sat 12 May 12

A Darener says...

About time we stopped this...my club is bigger than your club nonsense. On all counts Blackburn Rovers ARE bigger, better and older.
No contest.
About time we stopped this...my club is bigger than your club nonsense. On all counts Blackburn Rovers ARE bigger, better and older. No contest. A Darener

2:01pm Sat 12 May 12

Rovers75 says...

A Darener wrote:
About time we stopped this...my club is bigger than your club nonsense. On all counts Blackburn Rovers ARE bigger, better and older.
No contest.
all a bit of fun mate... they're infatuated with us and it's quite funny really
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: About time we stopped this...my club is bigger than your club nonsense. On all counts Blackburn Rovers ARE bigger, better and older. No contest.[/p][/quote]all a bit of fun mate... they're infatuated with us and it's quite funny really Rovers75

2:01pm Sat 12 May 12

A Darener says...

Ps now I am sitting here waiting for a bite".........not long now!
Ps now I am sitting here waiting for a bite".........not long now! A Darener

2:05pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

Ryanb74 wrote:
I imagine if Rovers beat Chelsea tomorrow Kean's post match interview will go something like: "The lads did half of what I asked of them and I can't ask any more than that!" seriously, can we all club together to get him sectioned unter the mental health act? Or can the LET just stop publishing anything he says because it is all clearly horse-sh*t.
He is still confident we can get the seven points required for safety.

They've been working hard on it at the training ground all week y'know.
[quote][p][bold]Ryanb74[/bold] wrote: I imagine if Rovers beat Chelsea tomorrow Kean's post match interview will go something like: "The lads did half of what I asked of them and I can't ask any more than that!" seriously, can we all club together to get him sectioned unter the mental health act? Or can the LET just stop publishing anything he says because it is all clearly horse-sh*t.[/p][/quote]He is still confident we can get the seven points required for safety. They've been working hard on it at the training ground all week y'know. samsno2millfan

2:06pm Sat 12 May 12

Rovers75 says...

A Darener wrote:
Ps now I am sitting here waiting for a bite".........n
ot long now!
oh it wont take long.....they'll be trawling the web looking for some stat now about how we only took 10 fans to Torquay in 1979 or sommat, which means we didn't deserve to win the Premier League lol
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Ps now I am sitting here waiting for a bite".........n ot long now![/p][/quote]oh it wont take long.....they'll be trawling the web looking for some stat now about how we only took 10 fans to Torquay in 1979 or sommat, which means we didn't deserve to win the Premier League lol Rovers75

2:07pm Sat 12 May 12

madari says...

makaveli96 wrote:
How can Mrs D sleep with a bald ginger with a Scottish accent?
Madari the snake charmer says:

Because he is better at cleaning carpets than you will ever be, just ask your mrs!!hashahahahaha!!
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: How can Mrs D sleep with a bald ginger with a Scottish accent?[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Because he is better at cleaning carpets than you will ever be, just ask your mrs!!hashahahahaha!! madari

2:11pm Sat 12 May 12

1rover says...

VENKYS OUT KEAN OUT
VENKYS OUT KEAN OUT 1rover

2:12pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

A Darener wrote:
samsno2millfan wrote: "E-I-E-I-E-I-O Down the football league we go When we're playing Chorley This what we sing We were Rovers, Blackburn Rovers Kean and Venkys are the most irresponsible, negligent, incompetent bunch of dishonourable individuals ever to run a football club" Sorry, I just don't seem to be able to get the last bit to scan.
How about...Kenny was our King?
Hmmmm...

.... doesn't really get the message over.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: "E-I-E-I-E-I-O Down the football league we go When we're playing Chorley This what we sing We were Rovers, Blackburn Rovers Kean and Venkys are the most irresponsible, negligent, incompetent bunch of dishonourable individuals ever to run a football club" Sorry, I just don't seem to be able to get the last bit to scan.[/p][/quote]How about...Kenny was our King?[/p][/quote]Hmmmm... .... doesn't really get the message over. samsno2millfan

2:17pm Sat 12 May 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Looks like the closet dingle fans with no mates are back from the PO with their Giro's. They like to chat. If you'd have been up earlier you would have seen the vote, How much bigger is rovers support than Bumleys? answer 85% Rovers 15% Bumley, mathematical proof at how small you really are, and the best bit is, it hurts so much. Pathetic dingledom Bumley FC, a small club from yorkshire.
Looks like the closet dingle fans with no mates are back from the PO with their Giro's. They like to chat. If you'd have been up earlier you would have seen the vote, How much bigger is rovers support than Bumleys? answer 85% Rovers 15% Bumley, mathematical proof at how small you really are, and the best bit is, it hurts so much. Pathetic dingledom Bumley FC, a small club from yorkshire. Keep Darwen Green

2:21pm Sat 12 May 12

beardy1967 says...

3 things need to happen before deluded goes to see desai

1) a huge loss to chelsea
2)one of the players to hit him
3)kean to lose it at press conference
3 things need to happen before deluded goes to see desai 1) a huge loss to chelsea 2)one of the players to hit him 3)kean to lose it at press conference beardy1967

2:21pm Sat 12 May 12

Jerome and her son says...

Groundhog day
Groundhog day Jerome and her son

2:27pm Sat 12 May 12

A Darener says...

beardy1967 wrote:
3 things need to happen before deluded goes to see desai

1) a huge loss to chelsea
2)one of the players to hit him
3)kean to lose it at press conference
1. Probably a forgone conclusion.
2. Hopefully all of them.
3. Unfortunately not likely, in his dream world everybody loves him.
[quote][p][bold]beardy1967[/bold] wrote: 3 things need to happen before deluded goes to see desai 1) a huge loss to chelsea 2)one of the players to hit him 3)kean to lose it at press conference[/p][/quote]1. Probably a forgone conclusion. 2. Hopefully all of them. 3. Unfortunately not likely, in his dream world everybody loves him. A Darener

2:28pm Sat 12 May 12

kazz says...

I still think if venkys end their association with kean and anderson they could prove to be the right owners. They have been ill advised left right centre by these bstards
I still think if venkys end their association with kean and anderson they could prove to be the right owners. They have been ill advised left right centre by these bstards kazz

2:45pm Sat 12 May 12

mr smooth says...

Strike, don't spend send the Venky's round the bend.
Strike, don't spend send the Venky's round the bend. mr smooth

2:45pm Sat 12 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC?

This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :)

...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing
Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.
KDG keep up with the pace. He didn't need any financial clout. He only had to get someone on board who did!! They then borrow against the club's assets which were quite considerable. The club (the owners) then sell the players to pay the debt and own the club outright without investing a single penny of their own money. The club was massively undervalued by the Walker Trust because they were desperate to get out and allow someone to come in and take the club forward. Unfortunately they found buyers with the opposite intention!!
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: ...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC? This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :) ...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing[/p][/quote]Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.[/p][/quote]KDG keep up with the pace. He didn't need any financial clout. He only had to get someone on board who did!! They then borrow against the club's assets which were quite considerable. The club (the owners) then sell the players to pay the debt and own the club outright without investing a single penny of their own money. The club was massively undervalued by the Walker Trust because they were desperate to get out and allow someone to come in and take the club forward. Unfortunately they found buyers with the opposite intention!! smellthecoffee

2:46pm Sat 12 May 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

samsno2millfan wrote:
Sorry, but I just had to get this off my chest.....

From a previous article;

Steve Kean, "......the high wage bill in place from the Walker Trust’s days had turned the club into a ‘selling one’ and it was something they (Venkys) were left with sorting out.

“For the last 10 years it has always been around that mark,” he said. “What we’ve been as a club over the past 10 years is a club that has to sell.

“When your wages are so high as a percentage of turnover you have to be a selling club. And if you look back over the last 10 years we are the club that has sold the most. We have tried to balance the books by continually selling players".



These people have shown they are totally incapable of accepting responsibility for anything negative. Venkys, through Steve Kean, now have the temerity to question the competence of the previous administration at the club.

Of course we had to sell players, it’s fundamental in how the business works. That’s the business you entered into, by the way, Ms D and the boys, in case you’d forgotten. One it would have been reasonable and sensible for you to have investigated and researched before becoming involved in. One which is operated in a slightly different way to the manufacture of poultry products or fast food outlets. One where the experience and competence of those you employ is essential whether it be for success or continued survival; these are vital qualities required by personnel in administration through to those at the coal face; the players and manager, as they are known in this trade.

Football is a labour intensive business; there are a comparatively small number of employees overall, but the largest expense is on a relatively small proportion of this number. It’s just a fact of the life Venkys have chosen. regardless of if they want to succeed or merely survive, market forces dictate they have to invest or allocate a larger proportion of the funds available in that core of front line employees. This is not to devalue the roles of those behind the scenes whose job it is to ensure the business operates correctly and efficiently. In fact their experience and competence is of significantly greater importance to the business.

Venkys spokesperson/partner (you decide) Steve Kean has not supplied any figures to validate their claim the situation when they took control of the business was untenable, as he suggested was the case. He believes this had left the club in an impossible position when signing, releasing or retaining players.

Kean describes Rovers of “becoming” a selling club, suggesting they had been forced into this position. Interestingly the only timescale mentioned for this apparent change in status was “the last 10 years” which includes approximately eight and a half years when Venkys were not involved in the club.

Kean did not refer to any specific figures for this eight and a half year period or the subsequent one and a half under Venkys tenure; let‘s have a quick look shall we?

The most recent accounts, 2010/11,the majority of which was under the Venkys ownership, show a loss approaching £19m. It is reasonable to assume there was nothing to suggest such a loss was imminent when Venkys were considering purchasing the club. The last published accounts under the previous administration showed a loss of under £2m. In round figures, that is a 950% increase.

If they are so obsessed with percentages, then it is no surprise they have become a little more, how shall we say, prudent. It would have been appropriate for them to have mentioned this frightening increase had occurred on their watch but, I repeat, the acceptance of responsibly for any and all things negative is a totally alien concept to them.

I do not have all the historic figures to hand but from memory, the club has operated at a relative low level of deficit, offset by the occasional profit from player sales, Santa Cruz for example. I cannot verify this without further investigation, but I suspect the loss of £19m in one year exceeds the total loss over the preceding nine.

Virtually every business has debt, it is the way of the business world. The art is in managing that debt, servicing the lending in a way which gives their creditors confidence in their ability to maintain the business. Allow me to quote from Paul Hunt’s recently exposed letter to Mrs Desai;

“With the bank closing in, I fear that they will look to foreclose and have the potential to implement financial restrictions upon the club that could (as a worst-case scenario) enforce administration”.

I don’t get the impression Barclays were overflowing with confidence at this stage, do you? Neither do I recall similar stories emerging when the previous administration was allegedly steering the club into financial oblivion.

The rumours Barclays had asked for an immediate cash injection late last year were also confirmed in Paul Hunt’s letter;

“As you are aware Barclays have asked for the owners to put £10m into the business. This needs to happen and I am confident that this could only be a loan as we would increase the value of the club significantly“.

Paul Hunt did not help his cause by specifying his own role and financial reward as first on his list of priorities; it gave the impression his self interest was paramount. However, the issues he raised and suggestions he made echoed and enlarged upon those in the letter a year before from Messrs Williams, Finn and Goodman. The points Hunt raised reflect the almost inevitable consequences of the problems outlined in the Williams, Finn and Goodman letter. The owners clearly have no respect for the opinion or suggested actions of the officials in situ at the club, in Paul Hunt’s case, one they had appointed. He is, rather predictably, no longer with us, of course.

It is scandalous for them to question John Williams et al for their stewardship whilst at the club. It would do them, Williams in particular, a great dis-service to be described as merely competent. John Williams was highly respected throughout the Premier League and beyond for his services to Blackburn Rovers. This is evidenced by him joining Man City; not what you would call a small town club where financial prudence was essential. It was recognition of his outstanding ability as an administrator.

Think it'll happen to you, Stevie boy?

The current situation at Blackburn Rovers is totally unconnected with the work of the previous administration. It is the disrespect shown to and eventual forced removal of experienced members of that administration which has been the catalyst.

Keeping a business viable is difficult. To suggest this club had arrived in its current state of utter chaos due to the irresponsibility shown by the owners’ predecessors is inaccurate to the point of libellous. It’s called management Mrs Desai, Messrs Rao and Mr Kean; a concept particularly alien to the latter.

Integrity, capability, responsibility, honour; virtues the like of which these scurrilous individuals can only dream.

Have they been naive? Possibly. Irresponsible? Definitely. Arrogant? Absolutely. Negligent? Grossly.

Al Capone was put away for financial irregularities, not the illegal businesses he ran or murders he committed (you‘ve seen the film). If Venkys want to remain in charge, we will not force them out by questioning their ability to run the club. Scudamore was right insofar as they had met the appropriate criteria to satisfy FA regulations. If that is so, those regulations are in need of a serious review. That wouldn’t help us now and pursuing that line of action is futile.

History shows clubs are exposed for financial irregularities. I know we don’t like him much folks, but sadly, the taxman may be our only hope. The power of the pen is mightier etc. etc. etc.

It may be a sign of desperation and something you won’t read or hear very often, but, let’s hear it for Inland Revenue, go get ’em boys.
Absolute quality item. This is just the sort of repose I believe will lead us to the eventual removal of the above mentioned.

I believe they are becoming desperate in their attempts at covering up the sows ear.

Kean is beginning to sound like a politician using the blame game.

In previous posts I have also questioned the Premier Leagues appropriate criteria and reached the conclusion that they are in need of radical overall or they will, as I see it, not fir to wipe my behind ! Considering the wider repercussions that this framework of rules brings down to bear on countless people lives.

I tip my B&W hat to sir, and say a fantastic piece for the defence of BRFC under this shambolic and embarrassing time in the history of Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

We will have our club returned to rightful owners who care and respect everything it stands for, and we as guardians will never stop in our quest in protecting.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but I just had to get this off my chest..... From a previous article; Steve Kean, "......the high wage bill in place from the Walker Trust’s days had turned the club into a ‘selling one’ and it was something they (Venkys) were left with sorting out. “For the last 10 years it has always been around that mark,” he said. “What we’ve been as a club over the past 10 years is a club that has to sell. “When your wages are so high as a percentage of turnover you have to be a selling club. And if you look back over the last 10 years we are the club that has sold the most. We have tried to balance the books by continually selling players". These people have shown they are totally incapable of accepting responsibility for anything negative. Venkys, through Steve Kean, now have the temerity to question the competence of the previous administration at the club. Of course we had to sell players, it’s fundamental in how the business works. That’s the business you entered into, by the way, Ms D and the boys, in case you’d forgotten. One it would have been reasonable and sensible for you to have investigated and researched before becoming involved in. One which is operated in a slightly different way to the manufacture of poultry products or fast food outlets. One where the experience and competence of those you employ is essential whether it be for success or continued survival; these are vital qualities required by personnel in administration through to those at the coal face; the players and manager, as they are known in this trade. Football is a labour intensive business; there are a comparatively small number of employees overall, but the largest expense is on a relatively small proportion of this number. It’s just a fact of the life Venkys have chosen. regardless of if they want to succeed or merely survive, market forces dictate they have to invest or allocate a larger proportion of the funds available in that core of front line employees. This is not to devalue the roles of those behind the scenes whose job it is to ensure the business operates correctly and efficiently. In fact their experience and competence is of significantly greater importance to the business. Venkys spokesperson/partner (you decide) Steve Kean has not supplied any figures to validate their claim the situation when they took control of the business was untenable, as he suggested was the case. He believes this had left the club in an impossible position when signing, releasing or retaining players. Kean describes Rovers of “becoming” a selling club, suggesting they had been forced into this position. Interestingly the only timescale mentioned for this apparent change in status was “the last 10 years” which includes approximately eight and a half years when Venkys were not involved in the club. Kean did not refer to any specific figures for this eight and a half year period or the subsequent one and a half under Venkys tenure; let‘s have a quick look shall we? The most recent accounts, 2010/11,the majority of which was under the Venkys ownership, show a loss approaching £19m. It is reasonable to assume there was nothing to suggest such a loss was imminent when Venkys were considering purchasing the club. The last published accounts under the previous administration showed a loss of under £2m. In round figures, that is a 950% increase. If they are so obsessed with percentages, then it is no surprise they have become a little more, how shall we say, prudent. It would have been appropriate for them to have mentioned this frightening increase had occurred on their watch but, I repeat, the acceptance of responsibly for any and all things negative is a totally alien concept to them. I do not have all the historic figures to hand but from memory, the club has operated at a relative low level of deficit, offset by the occasional profit from player sales, Santa Cruz for example. I cannot verify this without further investigation, but I suspect the loss of £19m in one year exceeds the total loss over the preceding nine. Virtually every business has debt, it is the way of the business world. The art is in managing that debt, servicing the lending in a way which gives their creditors confidence in their ability to maintain the business. Allow me to quote from Paul Hunt’s recently exposed letter to Mrs Desai; “With the bank closing in, I fear that they will look to foreclose and have the potential to implement financial restrictions upon the club that could (as a worst-case scenario) enforce administration”. I don’t get the impression Barclays were overflowing with confidence at this stage, do you? Neither do I recall similar stories emerging when the previous administration was allegedly steering the club into financial oblivion. The rumours Barclays had asked for an immediate cash injection late last year were also confirmed in Paul Hunt’s letter; “As you are aware Barclays have asked for the owners to put £10m into the business. This needs to happen and I am confident that this could only be a loan as we would increase the value of the club significantly“. Paul Hunt did not help his cause by specifying his own role and financial reward as first on his list of priorities; it gave the impression his self interest was paramount. However, the issues he raised and suggestions he made echoed and enlarged upon those in the letter a year before from Messrs Williams, Finn and Goodman. The points Hunt raised reflect the almost inevitable consequences of the problems outlined in the Williams, Finn and Goodman letter. The owners clearly have no respect for the opinion or suggested actions of the officials in situ at the club, in Paul Hunt’s case, one they had appointed. He is, rather predictably, no longer with us, of course. It is scandalous for them to question John Williams et al for their stewardship whilst at the club. It would do them, Williams in particular, a great dis-service to be described as merely competent. John Williams was highly respected throughout the Premier League and beyond for his services to Blackburn Rovers. This is evidenced by him joining Man City; not what you would call a small town club where financial prudence was essential. It was recognition of his outstanding ability as an administrator. Think it'll happen to you, Stevie boy? The current situation at Blackburn Rovers is totally unconnected with the work of the previous administration. It is the disrespect shown to and eventual forced removal of experienced members of that administration which has been the catalyst. Keeping a business viable is difficult. To suggest this club had arrived in its current state of utter chaos due to the irresponsibility shown by the owners’ predecessors is inaccurate to the point of libellous. It’s called management Mrs Desai, Messrs Rao and Mr Kean; a concept particularly alien to the latter. Integrity, capability, responsibility, honour; virtues the like of which these scurrilous individuals can only dream. Have they been naive? Possibly. Irresponsible? Definitely. Arrogant? Absolutely. Negligent? Grossly. Al Capone was put away for financial irregularities, not the illegal businesses he ran or murders he committed (you‘ve seen the film). If Venkys want to remain in charge, we will not force them out by questioning their ability to run the club. Scudamore was right insofar as they had met the appropriate criteria to satisfy FA regulations. If that is so, those regulations are in need of a serious review. That wouldn’t help us now and pursuing that line of action is futile. History shows clubs are exposed for financial irregularities. I know we don’t like him much folks, but sadly, the taxman may be our only hope. The power of the pen is mightier etc. etc. etc. It may be a sign of desperation and something you won’t read or hear very often, but, let’s hear it for Inland Revenue, go get ’em boys.[/p][/quote]Absolute quality item. This is just the sort of repose I believe will lead us to the eventual removal of the above mentioned. I believe they are becoming desperate in their attempts at covering up the sows ear. Kean is beginning to sound like a politician using the blame game. In previous posts I have also questioned the Premier Leagues appropriate criteria and reached the conclusion that they are in need of radical overall or they will, as I see it, not fir to wipe my behind ! Considering the wider repercussions that this framework of rules brings down to bear on countless people lives. I tip my B&W hat to sir, and say a fantastic piece for the defence of BRFC under this shambolic and embarrassing time in the history of Blackburn Rovers Football Club. We will have our club returned to rightful owners who care and respect everything it stands for, and we as guardians will never stop in our quest in protecting. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

2:52pm Sat 12 May 12

gleechy says...

There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone. gleechy

2:55pm Sat 12 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

The way I see it.....Blackburn Rovers FC are currently packed in ice. What the supporters are currently investing in and supporting is Kentaro United (which strangely rearranged is "Took It Unearned" or even "Kean...Nutter....I DO).
The way I see it.....Blackburn Rovers FC are currently packed in ice. What the supporters are currently investing in and supporting is Kentaro United (which strangely rearranged is "Took It Unearned" or even "Kean...Nutter....I DO). smellthecoffee

3:02pm Sat 12 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

samsno2millfan wrote:
Ryanb74 wrote:
I imagine if Rovers beat Chelsea tomorrow Kean's post match interview will go something like: "The lads did half of what I asked of them and I can't ask any more than that!" seriously, can we all club together to get him sectioned unter the mental health act? Or can the LET just stop publishing anything he says because it is all clearly horse-sh*t.
He is still confident we can get the seven points required for safety.

They've been working hard on it at the training ground all week y'know.
Rumour doing the rounds: Kean is telling the indians that if Chelsea kick off, fail to find one of their men that leaves Rovers with a free ball for one of our two strikers to score and get the 7 additional points required to secure safety.
[quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ryanb74[/bold] wrote: I imagine if Rovers beat Chelsea tomorrow Kean's post match interview will go something like: "The lads did half of what I asked of them and I can't ask any more than that!" seriously, can we all club together to get him sectioned unter the mental health act? Or can the LET just stop publishing anything he says because it is all clearly horse-sh*t.[/p][/quote]He is still confident we can get the seven points required for safety. They've been working hard on it at the training ground all week y'know.[/p][/quote]Rumour doing the rounds: Kean is telling the indians that if Chelsea kick off, fail to find one of their men that leaves Rovers with a free ball for one of our two strikers to score and get the 7 additional points required to secure safety. smellthecoffee

3:07pm Sat 12 May 12

Bangkok Rover says...

At the risk of sounding like you-know- who, I see a positive here. I take from the above that Desai is concerned by the very low season ticket uptake so the boycott is having a very real impact-good strategy. Stand firm.
At the risk of sounding like you-know- who, I see a positive here. I take from the above that Desai is concerned by the very low season ticket uptake so the boycott is having a very real impact-good strategy. Stand firm. Bangkok Rover

3:12pm Sat 12 May 12

Jerome and her son says...

How many other managers recomend CEO's, strange and bizarre, it also leans towards the theory that Kean has a higher involvement.
How many other managers recomend CEO's, strange and bizarre, it also leans towards the theory that Kean has a higher involvement. Jerome and her son

3:18pm Sat 12 May 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC?

This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :)

...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing
Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.
KDG keep up with the pace. He didn't need any financial clout. He only had to get someone on board who did!! They then borrow against the club's assets which were quite considerable. The club (the owners) then sell the players to pay the debt and own the club outright without investing a single penny of their own money. The club was massively undervalued by the Walker Trust because they were desperate to get out and allow someone to come in and take the club forward. Unfortunately they found buyers with the opposite intention!!
Sounds feesable, but i take a lot of convincing, I still think Kean will be sacked any day soon, probably Monday. I then think Venky's will try and sell part of Rovers to a consortium just for financial input and to keep face by getting us back up with some more savvy interested parties involved in the day to day running of the place. You have to realise, this will cost them nothing and will still fill their pockets with booty plus guaranteed future income. Thats just my opinion though.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: ...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC? This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :) ...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing[/p][/quote]Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.[/p][/quote]KDG keep up with the pace. He didn't need any financial clout. He only had to get someone on board who did!! They then borrow against the club's assets which were quite considerable. The club (the owners) then sell the players to pay the debt and own the club outright without investing a single penny of their own money. The club was massively undervalued by the Walker Trust because they were desperate to get out and allow someone to come in and take the club forward. Unfortunately they found buyers with the opposite intention!![/p][/quote]Sounds feesable, but i take a lot of convincing, I still think Kean will be sacked any day soon, probably Monday. I then think Venky's will try and sell part of Rovers to a consortium just for financial input and to keep face by getting us back up with some more savvy interested parties involved in the day to day running of the place. You have to realise, this will cost them nothing and will still fill their pockets with booty plus guaranteed future income. Thats just my opinion though. Keep Darwen Green

3:28pm Sat 12 May 12

alfa111 says...

alfa111 wrote:
Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.
Yes venkys you are right for sure big changes ahead, not sadly the changes all BRFC fans want. Please don't re-new or by a season ticket until kean has been kicked out of or left ewood park for ever and venkys spend big time on team ,new manager or better still sell up and go its the only way these robbers will see the light.
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: Don tell me venky desia when you meet SKon tuesday kean will step down as manager and your going to make steve keanocciho the new CEO who will pick his new management team to run BRFC and every thing will be all lovely jubbly? OH NO IT WON'T.[/p][/quote]Yes venkys you are right for sure big changes ahead, not sadly the changes all BRFC fans want. Please don't re-new or by a season ticket until kean has been kicked out of or left ewood park for ever and venkys spend big time on team ,new manager or better still sell up and go its the only way these robbers will see the light. alfa111

3:31pm Sat 12 May 12

Justjes says...

I've said it since the start that this tw@t kean owns a part of Rovers thus the I'm un sackable sh1t.
I've said it since the start that this tw@t kean owns a part of Rovers thus the I'm un sackable sh1t. Justjes

3:53pm Sat 12 May 12

Iiii1111 says...

If there is any outside chance of Kean being sacked, it’s absolutely imperative that Rovers lose tomorrow (the first time I want Rovers to lose- cricket score if possible) More importantly NO ONE should re-new/purchase a season ticket, not yet anyway, this low uptake is our only weapon don’t throw it away.
If there is any outside chance of Kean being sacked, it’s absolutely imperative that Rovers lose tomorrow (the first time I want Rovers to lose- cricket score if possible) More importantly NO ONE should re-new/purchase a season ticket, not yet anyway, this low uptake is our only weapon don’t throw it away. Iiii1111

3:57pm Sat 12 May 12

stick to football says...

If this woman keeps this man as Manager then there is something more than the public are awrae of without a doubt.

Who else who knows nothing about football would make a footballing decision - for heavens sake she is supposed to be a successful businesswoman not someone who lets a person walk all over her without reason
If this woman keeps this man as Manager then there is something more than the public are awrae of without a doubt. Who else who knows nothing about football would make a footballing decision - for heavens sake she is supposed to be a successful businesswoman not someone who lets a person walk all over her without reason stick to football

4:13pm Sat 12 May 12

burner says...

When I sent my ST renewal form back with a succinct and polite letter, I got a polite ( but ever so begging ) reply .
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I RECKON . . . . WHEN all is done and dusted ( i.e. no Kean but maybe a much wiser and humbled Venkys running an improved set-up ) . . . we will have a go at Premiership re-instatement and we will all get letters begging us to buy our STs back at greatly reduced rates - just to get seats filled. . . . might just work but could be a couple of seasons off yet ???
When I sent my ST renewal form back with a succinct and polite letter, I got a polite ( but ever so begging ) reply . . I RECKON . . . . WHEN all is done and dusted ( i.e. no Kean but maybe a much wiser and humbled Venkys running an improved set-up ) . . . we will have a go at Premiership re-instatement and we will all get letters begging us to buy our STs back at greatly reduced rates - just to get seats filled. . . . might just work but could be a couple of seasons off yet ??? burner

4:18pm Sat 12 May 12

Final word says...

gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained. Final word

4:29pm Sat 12 May 12

alfa111 says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
If there is any outside chance of Kean being sacked, it’s absolutely imperative that Rovers lose tomorrow (the first time I want Rovers to lose- cricket score if possible) More importantly NO ONE should re-new/purchase a season ticket, not yet anyway, this low uptake is our only weapon don’t throw it away.
Here,here.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: If there is any outside chance of Kean being sacked, it’s absolutely imperative that Rovers lose tomorrow (the first time I want Rovers to lose- cricket score if possible) More importantly NO ONE should re-new/purchase a season ticket, not yet anyway, this low uptake is our only weapon don’t throw it away.[/p][/quote]Here,here. alfa111

4:32pm Sat 12 May 12

sdaccy says...

Not only does Kean need to go, we need the faceless/nameless advisers to go with him before I will be renewing my season ticket. As soon as that happens I will be down to the ticket office to renew, I am quite prepared to give the venkys a second chance to show they can find proper advisers to help them, not Kean and his henchmen.
Not only does Kean need to go, we need the faceless/nameless advisers to go with him before I will be renewing my season ticket. As soon as that happens I will be down to the ticket office to renew, I am quite prepared to give the venkys a second chance to show they can find proper advisers to help them, not Kean and his henchmen. sdaccy

5:01pm Sat 12 May 12

Dukes says...

sdaccy wrote:
Not only does Kean need to go, we need the faceless/nameless advisers to go with him before I will be renewing my season ticket. As soon as that happens I will be down to the ticket office to renew, I am quite prepared to give the venkys a second chance to show they can find proper advisers to help them, not Kean and his henchmen.
well said there really cant fault you there.
[quote][p][bold]sdaccy[/bold] wrote: Not only does Kean need to go, we need the faceless/nameless advisers to go with him before I will be renewing my season ticket. As soon as that happens I will be down to the ticket office to renew, I am quite prepared to give the venkys a second chance to show they can find proper advisers to help them, not Kean and his henchmen.[/p][/quote]well said there really cant fault you there. Dukes

6:06pm Sat 12 May 12

gleechy says...

Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.
[quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.[/p][/quote]Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more. gleechy

6:12pm Sat 12 May 12

lowelife says...

I sent the following letter to Kean earliwer this week, hoping to influence his resignation; to date i have not received a response.
Dear Mr Kean,

There is a worry that your mail is filtered and that only favourable communications reach you. I hope that is not the case and as this letter is sent in a spirit of constructive criticism I hope that you will accept it in that manner and, hopefully, respond in a similar vein.

Whilst I could write at length on the perceived shortcomings of the owners (the absurdity of their business model for a Premiership football club is worthy of an essay in itself), I will try to restrict myself to discussing the role of manager and, in particular, your appointment to that position and performance to date.

The nearest analogy I can use is to that of a disillusioned customer writing to a previously reliable supplier explaining why they feel disenfranchised by a change of management that has resulted in a major deterioration in service. I feel it is a fitting comparison given that, unlike your competitors, you appear to have a wider, more commercial brief than purely first team performance and results on the pitch. This conclusion is drawn largely because you are, unfortunately, the only channel of communication with the club and by your well-publicised, regular visits to India to report on Club accountability.

Firstly, let me point out, in case it is not something you are familiar with that the only constant at any football club is the fan base. Owners and managers (especially managers) are transient but the fans remain loyal. They are your customers, they pay the bills and they, above all others, deserve the respect of the manager, players and staff. That is one of many lessons still to be learned, in your case, Mr Kean.


With very few exceptions your fellow managers are journeymen, honing their craft in the lower divisions, building a backroom staff around them on the way, developing tactical systems, learning the negotiative skills of buying and selling, handling PR with diplomacy and tact. Eventually, having served that apprenticeship, they may be recruited, with a CV showing progress and success, to a Premiership club. They know when to bow out and when to stay.

Sadly, your route to the top was instant and unfortunately your lack of managerial experience has manifested itself in areas of grave weakness over the last eighteen months:-
• Showing contempt for the fans by insinuating you could sign players of the calibre of Beckham etc.
• Alluding to Championship football within a short period at Ewood.
• Boasting of a European place in your first season.
• Bringing in players of such mediocre talent as Modeste and Goodwillie.
• Naively signing your agent’s son (and ruining his career as a result)
• Selling your outstanding and senior participants and then complaining that the reason for our relegation is a lack of experienced players.
• Presenting defiance as positivity in your press conferences.
• Steering the club to relegation.
• Shifting the onus of blame onto the fans by decrying their legitimate protests.

These shortcomings are to be expected in someone learning their craft but, sadly, the Premiership is not the training ground for would be leaders. It is the ultimate in professionalism, the very pinnacle for successful careers, where every word spoken, every tactic on the pitch, every sale and every purchase are subject to the minutest scrutiny. There is no learning curve, no room for error; judgements are harsh, instant and unforgiving.

Your abilities as a man manager have to be questioned when so many experienced players have left: - Nelson, Samba, Emmerton, Andrews; skilled players side-lined: - Selgado (perhaps for commercial reasons) and Nzonzi. To be successful you have to have the ability to manage large, inflated egos and integrate them into a team. You simply can’t ignore talent of that calibre because you lack the skills to direct them.

Your role is to manage, not befriend. You are there to discipline, motivate and develop players into a coercive and successful winning side, yet after every poor performance you appear, on radio, television and in the press as an apologist for the team and to lay the blame elsewhere.


My advice to you would have been to demonstrate some humility earlier in the proceedings. Throughout the eighteen months that have culminated in relegation, not once have I heard you take responsibility for the poor performances and results. The buck stops with you! You are paid a very high salary to deliver results; that hasn’t happened. You should accept your shortcomings (a wise manger knows and acknowledges his weaknesses), raise your hands to the fans and cry “Mia Culpa”.


The time to move on was at the end of last season, you could have escaped then with some vestige of self-respect intact. Sadly, your resolve to continue, to dismiss the protests against you and to remain defiant in the face of obvious inadequacies has led to the most vitriolic and unhealthy of relationships between the fans and yourself. It is not with dignity that you have tolerated the abuse but delusion.

As we face the prospect of the Championship and perhaps an even more ignominious future, please take time to reassess your own position. Your relationship with the fans is not redeemable; take stock of yourself and consider what harm your continuing at the club is doing to you, your wife and your family. The pressure will remain relentless and will not be dimmed next season if you remain in office.

Seek advice from those with experience who question your continued appointment and the harm it is doing, both to the club and to the community. Don’t talk to the sycophants around you, with vested interests in your appointment. Talk to people such as Jack Straw and Jake Berry, the local MP’s; to Gordon Taylor at the PFA, even Bishop Nicholas at the Cathedral. Read the views of respected football writers such as Henry Winter and Martin Samuel; many people value their opinions, don’t ignore or dismiss them. Listen to the elder statesmen within the game. But above all do not talk to people who will tell you what they think you want to hear!

Go now, with an abject apology and you may just salvage some shred of credibility. Recharge your batteries over the summer and there may be a place for you within football, at a more realistic level to suit your ability.

Please, for your sake, for the sake of the club and the community do not linger and allow this deplorable situation to continue.

Yours sincerely,




John H Lowe
I sent the following letter to Kean earliwer this week, hoping to influence his resignation; to date i have not received a response. Dear Mr Kean, There is a worry that your mail is filtered and that only favourable communications reach you. I hope that is not the case and as this letter is sent in a spirit of constructive criticism I hope that you will accept it in that manner and, hopefully, respond in a similar vein. Whilst I could write at length on the perceived shortcomings of the owners (the absurdity of their business model for a Premiership football club is worthy of an essay in itself), I will try to restrict myself to discussing the role of manager and, in particular, your appointment to that position and performance to date. The nearest analogy I can use is to that of a disillusioned customer writing to a previously reliable supplier explaining why they feel disenfranchised by a change of management that has resulted in a major deterioration in service. I feel it is a fitting comparison given that, unlike your competitors, you appear to have a wider, more commercial brief than purely first team performance and results on the pitch. This conclusion is drawn largely because you are, unfortunately, the only channel of communication with the club and by your well-publicised, regular visits to India to report on Club accountability. Firstly, let me point out, in case it is not something you are familiar with that the only constant at any football club is the fan base. Owners and managers (especially managers) are transient but the fans remain loyal. They are your customers, they pay the bills and they, above all others, deserve the respect of the manager, players and staff. That is one of many lessons still to be learned, in your case, Mr Kean. With very few exceptions your fellow managers are journeymen, honing their craft in the lower divisions, building a backroom staff around them on the way, developing tactical systems, learning the negotiative skills of buying and selling, handling PR with diplomacy and tact. Eventually, having served that apprenticeship, they may be recruited, with a CV showing progress and success, to a Premiership club. They know when to bow out and when to stay. Sadly, your route to the top was instant and unfortunately your lack of managerial experience has manifested itself in areas of grave weakness over the last eighteen months:- • Showing contempt for the fans by insinuating you could sign players of the calibre of Beckham etc. • Alluding to Championship football within a short period at Ewood. • Boasting of a European place in your first season. • Bringing in players of such mediocre talent as Modeste and Goodwillie. • Naively signing your agent’s son (and ruining his career as a result) • Selling your outstanding and senior participants and then complaining that the reason for our relegation is a lack of experienced players. • Presenting defiance as positivity in your press conferences. • Steering the club to relegation. • Shifting the onus of blame onto the fans by decrying their legitimate protests. These shortcomings are to be expected in someone learning their craft but, sadly, the Premiership is not the training ground for would be leaders. It is the ultimate in professionalism, the very pinnacle for successful careers, where every word spoken, every tactic on the pitch, every sale and every purchase are subject to the minutest scrutiny. There is no learning curve, no room for error; judgements are harsh, instant and unforgiving. Your abilities as a man manager have to be questioned when so many experienced players have left: - Nelson, Samba, Emmerton, Andrews; skilled players side-lined: - Selgado (perhaps for commercial reasons) and Nzonzi. To be successful you have to have the ability to manage large, inflated egos and integrate them into a team. You simply can’t ignore talent of that calibre because you lack the skills to direct them. Your role is to manage, not befriend. You are there to discipline, motivate and develop players into a coercive and successful winning side, yet after every poor performance you appear, on radio, television and in the press as an apologist for the team and to lay the blame elsewhere. My advice to you would have been to demonstrate some humility earlier in the proceedings. Throughout the eighteen months that have culminated in relegation, not once have I heard you take responsibility for the poor performances and results. The buck stops with you! You are paid a very high salary to deliver results; that hasn’t happened. You should accept your shortcomings (a wise manger knows and acknowledges his weaknesses), raise your hands to the fans and cry “Mia Culpa”. The time to move on was at the end of last season, you could have escaped then with some vestige of self-respect intact. Sadly, your resolve to continue, to dismiss the protests against you and to remain defiant in the face of obvious inadequacies has led to the most vitriolic and unhealthy of relationships between the fans and yourself. It is not with dignity that you have tolerated the abuse but delusion. As we face the prospect of the Championship and perhaps an even more ignominious future, please take time to reassess your own position. Your relationship with the fans is not redeemable; take stock of yourself and consider what harm your continuing at the club is doing to you, your wife and your family. The pressure will remain relentless and will not be dimmed next season if you remain in office. Seek advice from those with experience who question your continued appointment and the harm it is doing, both to the club and to the community. Don’t talk to the sycophants around you, with vested interests in your appointment. Talk to people such as Jack Straw and Jake Berry, the local MP’s; to Gordon Taylor at the PFA, even Bishop Nicholas at the Cathedral. Read the views of respected football writers such as Henry Winter and Martin Samuel; many people value their opinions, don’t ignore or dismiss them. Listen to the elder statesmen within the game. But above all do not talk to people who will tell you what they think you want to hear! Go now, with an abject apology and you may just salvage some shred of credibility. Recharge your batteries over the summer and there may be a place for you within football, at a more realistic level to suit your ability. Please, for your sake, for the sake of the club and the community do not linger and allow this deplorable situation to continue. Yours sincerely, John H Lowe lowelife

6:39pm Sat 12 May 12

bed and breakfast man_! says...

All these trips to India to see the delightfull Mrs Desai by Kean, He must be hung like a donkey and have a tongue as long as a ox and brown all over the end of his nose to be still in his job.
He is doing something right not to be sacked after Wigan.
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Either that or she has no business sense at Rovers losing millions not be in the premiership.
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What makes me laugh or in this case really sick is that this Bald drunk driver is so inept ,He really belives he is the man to lead us back .
He has got be the worst ever Rovers manager,And the stats over the seasons do not lie, But here he is thinking he is the man to lead us back.
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The only thing he has done is take us into the championship and with him it would be out the back door into division 1..
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I did not renew my season ticket last season, And to be honest i really miss not going, But i will not set foot in there till they have gone, The Bald bloke and the Hairy Indian woman with her brother that looks like Mr T.
I will go back no matter where Rovers is when they have gone.
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If others choose not renew or set foot in Ewood they will soon have rethink plans when the gate money stops coming in .
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People have the right to say what you want, But all they are doing is paying these idiot owners to protest inside the club. It seems they choose to ignore the fans , So why pay them your hard earned money, Empty ground will not be good for business.
All these trips to India to see the delightfull Mrs Desai by Kean, He must be hung like a donkey and have a tongue as long as a ox and brown all over the end of his nose to be still in his job. He is doing something right not to be sacked after Wigan. . Either that or she has no business sense at Rovers losing millions not be in the premiership. . What makes me laugh or in this case really sick is that this Bald drunk driver is so inept ,He really belives he is the man to lead us back . He has got be the worst ever Rovers manager,And the stats over the seasons do not lie, But here he is thinking he is the man to lead us back. . The only thing he has done is take us into the championship and with him it would be out the back door into division 1.. . I did not renew my season ticket last season, And to be honest i really miss not going, But i will not set foot in there till they have gone, The Bald bloke and the Hairy Indian woman with her brother that looks like Mr T. I will go back no matter where Rovers is when they have gone. . If others choose not renew or set foot in Ewood they will soon have rethink plans when the gate money stops coming in . . People have the right to say what you want, But all they are doing is paying these idiot owners to protest inside the club. It seems they choose to ignore the fans , So why pay them your hard earned money, Empty ground will not be good for business. bed and breakfast man_!

6:41pm Sat 12 May 12

janus1947 says...

lowelife wrote:
I sent the following letter to Kean earliwer this week, hoping to influence his resignation; to date i have not received a response.
Dear Mr Kean,

There is a worry that your mail is filtered and that only favourable communications reach you. I hope that is not the case and as this letter is sent in a spirit of constructive criticism I hope that you will accept it in that manner and, hopefully, respond in a similar vein.

Whilst I could write at length on the perceived shortcomings of the owners (the absurdity of their business model for a Premiership football club is worthy of an essay in itself), I will try to restrict myself to discussing the role of manager and, in particular, your appointment to that position and performance to date.

The nearest analogy I can use is to that of a disillusioned customer writing to a previously reliable supplier explaining why they feel disenfranchised by a change of management that has resulted in a major deterioration in service. I feel it is a fitting comparison given that, unlike your competitors, you appear to have a wider, more commercial brief than purely first team performance and results on the pitch. This conclusion is drawn largely because you are, unfortunately, the only channel of communication with the club and by your well-publicised, regular visits to India to report on Club accountability.

Firstly, let me point out, in case it is not something you are familiar with that the only constant at any football club is the fan base. Owners and managers (especially managers) are transient but the fans remain loyal. They are your customers, they pay the bills and they, above all others, deserve the respect of the manager, players and staff. That is one of many lessons still to be learned, in your case, Mr Kean.


With very few exceptions your fellow managers are journeymen, honing their craft in the lower divisions, building a backroom staff around them on the way, developing tactical systems, learning the negotiative skills of buying and selling, handling PR with diplomacy and tact. Eventually, having served that apprenticeship, they may be recruited, with a CV showing progress and success, to a Premiership club. They know when to bow out and when to stay.

Sadly, your route to the top was instant and unfortunately your lack of managerial experience has manifested itself in areas of grave weakness over the last eighteen months:-
• Showing contempt for the fans by insinuating you could sign players of the calibre of Beckham etc.
• Alluding to Championship football within a short period at Ewood.
• Boasting of a European place in your first season.
• Bringing in players of such mediocre talent as Modeste and Goodwillie.
• Naively signing your agent’s son (and ruining his career as a result)
• Selling your outstanding and senior participants and then complaining that the reason for our relegation is a lack of experienced players.
• Presenting defiance as positivity in your press conferences.
• Steering the club to relegation.
• Shifting the onus of blame onto the fans by decrying their legitimate protests.

These shortcomings are to be expected in someone learning their craft but, sadly, the Premiership is not the training ground for would be leaders. It is the ultimate in professionalism, the very pinnacle for successful careers, where every word spoken, every tactic on the pitch, every sale and every purchase are subject to the minutest scrutiny. There is no learning curve, no room for error; judgements are harsh, instant and unforgiving.

Your abilities as a man manager have to be questioned when so many experienced players have left: - Nelson, Samba, Emmerton, Andrews; skilled players side-lined: - Selgado (perhaps for commercial reasons) and Nzonzi. To be successful you have to have the ability to manage large, inflated egos and integrate them into a team. You simply can’t ignore talent of that calibre because you lack the skills to direct them.

Your role is to manage, not befriend. You are there to discipline, motivate and develop players into a coercive and successful winning side, yet after every poor performance you appear, on radio, television and in the press as an apologist for the team and to lay the blame elsewhere.


My advice to you would have been to demonstrate some humility earlier in the proceedings. Throughout the eighteen months that have culminated in relegation, not once have I heard you take responsibility for the poor performances and results. The buck stops with you! You are paid a very high salary to deliver results; that hasn’t happened. You should accept your shortcomings (a wise manger knows and acknowledges his weaknesses), raise your hands to the fans and cry “Mia Culpa”.


The time to move on was at the end of last season, you could have escaped then with some vestige of self-respect intact. Sadly, your resolve to continue, to dismiss the protests against you and to remain defiant in the face of obvious inadequacies has led to the most vitriolic and unhealthy of relationships between the fans and yourself. It is not with dignity that you have tolerated the abuse but delusion.

As we face the prospect of the Championship and perhaps an even more ignominious future, please take time to reassess your own position. Your relationship with the fans is not redeemable; take stock of yourself and consider what harm your continuing at the club is doing to you, your wife and your family. The pressure will remain relentless and will not be dimmed next season if you remain in office.

Seek advice from those with experience who question your continued appointment and the harm it is doing, both to the club and to the community. Don’t talk to the sycophants around you, with vested interests in your appointment. Talk to people such as Jack Straw and Jake Berry, the local MP’s; to Gordon Taylor at the PFA, even Bishop Nicholas at the Cathedral. Read the views of respected football writers such as Henry Winter and Martin Samuel; many people value their opinions, don’t ignore or dismiss them. Listen to the elder statesmen within the game. But above all do not talk to people who will tell you what they think you want to hear!

Go now, with an abject apology and you may just salvage some shred of credibility. Recharge your batteries over the summer and there may be a place for you within football, at a more realistic level to suit your ability.

Please, for your sake, for the sake of the club and the community do not linger and allow this deplorable situation to continue.

Yours sincerely,




John H Lowe
A well constructed letter containing so many valid points. However your assumption is that he acts alone and is not influenced by parties other than the Venky group. Unfortunately he will not resign of his own valition so we must eagerly await his sacking or when the interested party feels it is tactically wise for him to withdraw. This is all a game which, hopefully, will eventually be exposed.
The pigs in the trough are still feeding
[quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: I sent the following letter to Kean earliwer this week, hoping to influence his resignation; to date i have not received a response. Dear Mr Kean, There is a worry that your mail is filtered and that only favourable communications reach you. I hope that is not the case and as this letter is sent in a spirit of constructive criticism I hope that you will accept it in that manner and, hopefully, respond in a similar vein. Whilst I could write at length on the perceived shortcomings of the owners (the absurdity of their business model for a Premiership football club is worthy of an essay in itself), I will try to restrict myself to discussing the role of manager and, in particular, your appointment to that position and performance to date. The nearest analogy I can use is to that of a disillusioned customer writing to a previously reliable supplier explaining why they feel disenfranchised by a change of management that has resulted in a major deterioration in service. I feel it is a fitting comparison given that, unlike your competitors, you appear to have a wider, more commercial brief than purely first team performance and results on the pitch. This conclusion is drawn largely because you are, unfortunately, the only channel of communication with the club and by your well-publicised, regular visits to India to report on Club accountability. Firstly, let me point out, in case it is not something you are familiar with that the only constant at any football club is the fan base. Owners and managers (especially managers) are transient but the fans remain loyal. They are your customers, they pay the bills and they, above all others, deserve the respect of the manager, players and staff. That is one of many lessons still to be learned, in your case, Mr Kean. With very few exceptions your fellow managers are journeymen, honing their craft in the lower divisions, building a backroom staff around them on the way, developing tactical systems, learning the negotiative skills of buying and selling, handling PR with diplomacy and tact. Eventually, having served that apprenticeship, they may be recruited, with a CV showing progress and success, to a Premiership club. They know when to bow out and when to stay. Sadly, your route to the top was instant and unfortunately your lack of managerial experience has manifested itself in areas of grave weakness over the last eighteen months:- • Showing contempt for the fans by insinuating you could sign players of the calibre of Beckham etc. • Alluding to Championship football within a short period at Ewood. • Boasting of a European place in your first season. • Bringing in players of such mediocre talent as Modeste and Goodwillie. • Naively signing your agent’s son (and ruining his career as a result) • Selling your outstanding and senior participants and then complaining that the reason for our relegation is a lack of experienced players. • Presenting defiance as positivity in your press conferences. • Steering the club to relegation. • Shifting the onus of blame onto the fans by decrying their legitimate protests. These shortcomings are to be expected in someone learning their craft but, sadly, the Premiership is not the training ground for would be leaders. It is the ultimate in professionalism, the very pinnacle for successful careers, where every word spoken, every tactic on the pitch, every sale and every purchase are subject to the minutest scrutiny. There is no learning curve, no room for error; judgements are harsh, instant and unforgiving. Your abilities as a man manager have to be questioned when so many experienced players have left: - Nelson, Samba, Emmerton, Andrews; skilled players side-lined: - Selgado (perhaps for commercial reasons) and Nzonzi. To be successful you have to have the ability to manage large, inflated egos and integrate them into a team. You simply can’t ignore talent of that calibre because you lack the skills to direct them. Your role is to manage, not befriend. You are there to discipline, motivate and develop players into a coercive and successful winning side, yet after every poor performance you appear, on radio, television and in the press as an apologist for the team and to lay the blame elsewhere. My advice to you would have been to demonstrate some humility earlier in the proceedings. Throughout the eighteen months that have culminated in relegation, not once have I heard you take responsibility for the poor performances and results. The buck stops with you! You are paid a very high salary to deliver results; that hasn’t happened. You should accept your shortcomings (a wise manger knows and acknowledges his weaknesses), raise your hands to the fans and cry “Mia Culpa”. The time to move on was at the end of last season, you could have escaped then with some vestige of self-respect intact. Sadly, your resolve to continue, to dismiss the protests against you and to remain defiant in the face of obvious inadequacies has led to the most vitriolic and unhealthy of relationships between the fans and yourself. It is not with dignity that you have tolerated the abuse but delusion. As we face the prospect of the Championship and perhaps an even more ignominious future, please take time to reassess your own position. Your relationship with the fans is not redeemable; take stock of yourself and consider what harm your continuing at the club is doing to you, your wife and your family. The pressure will remain relentless and will not be dimmed next season if you remain in office. Seek advice from those with experience who question your continued appointment and the harm it is doing, both to the club and to the community. Don’t talk to the sycophants around you, with vested interests in your appointment. Talk to people such as Jack Straw and Jake Berry, the local MP’s; to Gordon Taylor at the PFA, even Bishop Nicholas at the Cathedral. Read the views of respected football writers such as Henry Winter and Martin Samuel; many people value their opinions, don’t ignore or dismiss them. Listen to the elder statesmen within the game. But above all do not talk to people who will tell you what they think you want to hear! Go now, with an abject apology and you may just salvage some shred of credibility. Recharge your batteries over the summer and there may be a place for you within football, at a more realistic level to suit your ability. Please, for your sake, for the sake of the club and the community do not linger and allow this deplorable situation to continue. Yours sincerely, John H Lowe[/p][/quote]A well constructed letter containing so many valid points. However your assumption is that he acts alone and is not influenced by parties other than the Venky group. Unfortunately he will not resign of his own valition so we must eagerly await his sacking or when the interested party feels it is tactically wise for him to withdraw. This is all a game which, hopefully, will eventually be exposed. The pigs in the trough are still feeding janus1947

6:50pm Sat 12 May 12

alfhookem says...

I cant believe whats happening at deadwood leave kean alone,your nxt mission agent kean should you choose it league one. UTC.
I cant believe whats happening at deadwood leave kean alone,your nxt mission agent kean should you choose it league one. UTC. alfhookem

7:16pm Sat 12 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote:
...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC?

This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :)

...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing
Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.
It is very possible that Kean has shares in the club even if he didnt have the money. It could have been agreed as part of his pay package e.g. lower wage but shares in the club. My friend had a similar financial package when she was head hunted for a job with a big IT company. Years later the company split the shares and she made a fortune selling. Also with Nelsen, the goldent handshake will more likely have been a 'keep you gob shut' handshake. Iv heard people have been paid to keep quiet
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: ...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC? This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :) ...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing[/p][/quote]Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.[/p][/quote]It is very possible that Kean has shares in the club even if he didnt have the money. It could have been agreed as part of his pay package e.g. lower wage but shares in the club. My friend had a similar financial package when she was head hunted for a job with a big IT company. Years later the company split the shares and she made a fortune selling. Also with Nelsen, the goldent handshake will more likely have been a 'keep you gob shut' handshake. Iv heard people have been paid to keep quiet merlinrabbit

7:40pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Russ ov the rovers wrote: ...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC? This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :) ...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing
Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.
It is very possible that Kean has shares in the club even if he didnt have the money. It could have been agreed as part of his pay package e.g. lower wage but shares in the club. My friend had a similar financial package when she was head hunted for a job with a big IT company. Years later the company split the shares and she made a fortune selling. Also with Nelsen, the goldent handshake will more likely have been a 'keep you gob shut' handshake. Iv heard people have been paid to keep quiet
Getting a few shares as part of your pay packet is one thing, but enough to be classed a partner? I think not.

I have some shares in Barclays but the b@stards still won't force Venkys to sell no matter how often I tell them.

I will be making it known at the AGM.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: ...Zzzzz Is it noT becoming clearer to people out there yet that Kean is more than just the Manager at BRFC? This w@nker will take some shifting, ultimately though he will not be here come next season thats for sure in my opinion :) ...as for Nelson he has a bit of a cheek asking for a golden handshake considering he pulled a fast one and joined Spurs totally opposite to what he said he was doing[/p][/quote]Hi Russ, I don't buy into Kean being more than a manager rumour, he hasn't got any financial clout, unless he's been saving very hard for years. Anderson on the other hand may have. Keans numbers up. As for Nelson, we only had keans viewpoint that the guy was in traction and may never walk again, so he is visiting New Zealand cryogenics to see if he can be frozen and revived for the next world cup story to go off. Me, I think he was frozen out like roberts and salgado so he asked to be released from his contract. The rest is history. The momentum is gathering, soon we will be a Kean free zone. At least that will be a start.[/p][/quote]It is very possible that Kean has shares in the club even if he didnt have the money. It could have been agreed as part of his pay package e.g. lower wage but shares in the club. My friend had a similar financial package when she was head hunted for a job with a big IT company. Years later the company split the shares and she made a fortune selling. Also with Nelsen, the goldent handshake will more likely have been a 'keep you gob shut' handshake. Iv heard people have been paid to keep quiet[/p][/quote]Getting a few shares as part of your pay packet is one thing, but enough to be classed a partner? I think not. I have some shares in Barclays but the b@stards still won't force Venkys to sell no matter how often I tell them. I will be making it known at the AGM. samsno2millfan

7:47pm Sat 12 May 12

The Mighty Weetabix says...

Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die!
Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die! The Mighty Weetabix

7:55pm Sat 12 May 12

Stone Island. says...

The Mighty Weetabix wrote:
Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die!
You need putting in the same padded cell, as Kean.
[quote][p][bold]The Mighty Weetabix[/bold] wrote: Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die![/p][/quote]You need putting in the same padded cell, as Kean. Stone Island.

8:02pm Sat 12 May 12

bossindian says...

I'm hoping the Chelsea Fans start chanting Kean Out ;o)
I'm hoping the Chelsea Fans start chanting Kean Out ;o) bossindian

8:29pm Sat 12 May 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

The Mighty Weetabix wrote:
Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die!
You been puttin meths on yer weetabix again?
[quote][p][bold]The Mighty Weetabix[/bold] wrote: Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die![/p][/quote]You been puttin meths on yer weetabix again? Keep Darwen Green

9:10pm Sat 12 May 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Dan11 wrote:
If Desai keeps Kean as manager:

1. Kean is either a silent owner;
2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk;
3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before.

Take your choice.
And I can imagine that that's one hell of a carpet to clean.
[quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: If Desai keeps Kean as manager: 1. Kean is either a silent owner; 2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk; 3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before. Take your choice.[/p][/quote]And I can imagine that that's one hell of a carpet to clean. Cha'mone MF

9:21pm Sat 12 May 12

Justjes says...

And sack those mother f ugly tw@t brothers of yours to
And sack those mother f ugly tw@t brothers of yours to Justjes

9:23pm Sat 12 May 12

wampam says...

david dunne cant stand steve keane
david dunne cant stand steve keane wampam

9:28pm Sat 12 May 12

Cha'mone MF says...

fabinribblevalley wrote:
A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.
It amuses me no end with what your Grintwums write on here.

.....Me Kean I hope you read this posting!

Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets at matches and probably while he's walking around the supermarket that he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here? He has clearly demonstrated how thick his skin is so I doubt Internet abuse would phase him should the unlikely scenario unfold that he reads this.
[quote][p][bold]fabinribblevalley[/bold] wrote: A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.[/p][/quote]It amuses me no end with what your Grintwums write on here. .....Me Kean I hope you read this posting! Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets at matches and probably while he's walking around the supermarket that he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here? He has clearly demonstrated how thick his skin is so I doubt Internet abuse would phase him should the unlikely scenario unfold that he reads this. Cha'mone MF

9:46pm Sat 12 May 12

Bombay Duck Club says...

That b@stard (Onion) Bhaji Rao claims Rover's relegation to be his saddest experience since his mother (now there's a surprise for a start!) died. However, unlike Rovers I presume he wasn't responsible for the death and also unlike Rovers I assume he attended the funeral. VENKY's OUT! KEAN OUT!
That b@stard (Onion) Bhaji Rao claims Rover's relegation to be his saddest experience since his mother (now there's a surprise for a start!) died. However, unlike Rovers I presume he wasn't responsible for the death and also unlike Rovers I assume he attended the funeral. VENKY's OUT! KEAN OUT! Bombay Duck Club

9:46pm Sat 12 May 12

Final word says...

gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.
But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him.

You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.[/p][/quote]Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.[/p][/quote]But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him. You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club. Final word

9:52pm Sat 12 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
fabinribblevalley wrote: A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.
It amuses me no end with what your Grintwums write on here. .....Me Kean I hope you read this posting! Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets at matches and probably while he's walking around the supermarket that he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here? He has clearly demonstrated how thick his skin is so I doubt Internet abuse would phase him should the unlikely scenario unfold that he reads this.
"Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets ......he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here"

Why not? You do.

No matter how many times we tell you to f@ck off you're still here.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fabinribblevalley[/bold] wrote: A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.[/p][/quote]It amuses me no end with what your Grintwums write on here. .....Me Kean I hope you read this posting! Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets at matches and probably while he's walking around the supermarket that he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here? He has clearly demonstrated how thick his skin is so I doubt Internet abuse would phase him should the unlikely scenario unfold that he reads this.[/p][/quote]"Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets ......he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here" Why not? You do. No matter how many times we tell you to f@ck off you're still here. samsno2millfan

9:56pm Sat 12 May 12

philmoulden says...

xrayspex77 wrote:
Dan11 wrote:
If Desai keeps Kean as manager:

1. Kean is either a silent owner;
2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk;
3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before.

Take your choice.
No 3 for me
identiteeeeeeeeeeeee
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[quote][p][bold]xrayspex77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: If Desai keeps Kean as manager: 1. Kean is either a silent owner; 2. Desai is easily fooled by a bald Scottish drunk; 3. Kean cleans her carpet, better than any man has ever done before. Take your choice.[/p][/quote]No 3 for me[/p][/quote]identiteeeeeeeeeeeee ee philmoulden

10:00pm Sat 12 May 12

Final word says...

lowelife wrote:
I sent the following letter to Kean earliwer this week, hoping to influence his resignation; to date i have not received a response.
Dear Mr Kean,

There is a worry that your mail is filtered and that only favourable communications reach you. I hope that is not the case and as this letter is sent in a spirit of constructive criticism I hope that you will accept it in that manner and, hopefully, respond in a similar vein.

Whilst I could write at length on the perceived shortcomings of the owners (the absurdity of their business model for a Premiership football club is worthy of an essay in itself), I will try to restrict myself to discussing the role of manager and, in particular, your appointment to that position and performance to date.

The nearest analogy I can use is to that of a disillusioned customer writing to a previously reliable supplier explaining why they feel disenfranchised by a change of management that has resulted in a major deterioration in service. I feel it is a fitting comparison given that, unlike your competitors, you appear to have a wider, more commercial brief than purely first team performance and results on the pitch. This conclusion is drawn largely because you are, unfortunately, the only channel of communication with the club and by your well-publicised, regular visits to India to report on Club accountability.

Firstly, let me point out, in case it is not something you are familiar with that the only constant at any football club is the fan base. Owners and managers (especially managers) are transient but the fans remain loyal. They are your customers, they pay the bills and they, above all others, deserve the respect of the manager, players and staff. That is one of many lessons still to be learned, in your case, Mr Kean.


With very few exceptions your fellow managers are journeymen, honing their craft in the lower divisions, building a backroom staff around them on the way, developing tactical systems, learning the negotiative skills of buying and selling, handling PR with diplomacy and tact. Eventually, having served that apprenticeship, they may be recruited, with a CV showing progress and success, to a Premiership club. They know when to bow out and when to stay.

Sadly, your route to the top was instant and unfortunately your lack of managerial experience has manifested itself in areas of grave weakness over the last eighteen months:-
• Showing contempt for the fans by insinuating you could sign players of the calibre of Beckham etc.
• Alluding to Championship football within a short period at Ewood.
• Boasting of a European place in your first season.
• Bringing in players of such mediocre talent as Modeste and Goodwillie.
• Naively signing your agent’s son (and ruining his career as a result)
• Selling your outstanding and senior participants and then complaining that the reason for our relegation is a lack of experienced players.
• Presenting defiance as positivity in your press conferences.
• Steering the club to relegation.
• Shifting the onus of blame onto the fans by decrying their legitimate protests.

These shortcomings are to be expected in someone learning their craft but, sadly, the Premiership is not the training ground for would be leaders. It is the ultimate in professionalism, the very pinnacle for successful careers, where every word spoken, every tactic on the pitch, every sale and every purchase are subject to the minutest scrutiny. There is no learning curve, no room for error; judgements are harsh, instant and unforgiving.

Your abilities as a man manager have to be questioned when so many experienced players have left: - Nelson, Samba, Emmerton, Andrews; skilled players side-lined: - Selgado (perhaps for commercial reasons) and Nzonzi. To be successful you have to have the ability to manage large, inflated egos and integrate them into a team. You simply can’t ignore talent of that calibre because you lack the skills to direct them.

Your role is to manage, not befriend. You are there to discipline, motivate and develop players into a coercive and successful winning side, yet after every poor performance you appear, on radio, television and in the press as an apologist for the team and to lay the blame elsewhere.


My advice to you would have been to demonstrate some humility earlier in the proceedings. Throughout the eighteen months that have culminated in relegation, not once have I heard you take responsibility for the poor performances and results. The buck stops with you! You are paid a very high salary to deliver results; that hasn’t happened. You should accept your shortcomings (a wise manger knows and acknowledges his weaknesses), raise your hands to the fans and cry “Mia Culpa”.


The time to move on was at the end of last season, you could have escaped then with some vestige of self-respect intact. Sadly, your resolve to continue, to dismiss the protests against you and to remain defiant in the face of obvious inadequacies has led to the most vitriolic and unhealthy of relationships between the fans and yourself. It is not with dignity that you have tolerated the abuse but delusion.

As we face the prospect of the Championship and perhaps an even more ignominious future, please take time to reassess your own position. Your relationship with the fans is not redeemable; take stock of yourself and consider what harm your continuing at the club is doing to you, your wife and your family. The pressure will remain relentless and will not be dimmed next season if you remain in office.

Seek advice from those with experience who question your continued appointment and the harm it is doing, both to the club and to the community. Don’t talk to the sycophants around you, with vested interests in your appointment. Talk to people such as Jack Straw and Jake Berry, the local MP’s; to Gordon Taylor at the PFA, even Bishop Nicholas at the Cathedral. Read the views of respected football writers such as Henry Winter and Martin Samuel; many people value their opinions, don’t ignore or dismiss them. Listen to the elder statesmen within the game. But above all do not talk to people who will tell you what they think you want to hear!

Go now, with an abject apology and you may just salvage some shred of credibility. Recharge your batteries over the summer and there may be a place for you within football, at a more realistic level to suit your ability.

Please, for your sake, for the sake of the club and the community do not linger and allow this deplorable situation to continue.

Yours sincerely,




John H Lowe
Very good letter
[quote][p][bold]lowelife[/bold] wrote: I sent the following letter to Kean earliwer this week, hoping to influence his resignation; to date i have not received a response. Dear Mr Kean, There is a worry that your mail is filtered and that only favourable communications reach you. I hope that is not the case and as this letter is sent in a spirit of constructive criticism I hope that you will accept it in that manner and, hopefully, respond in a similar vein. Whilst I could write at length on the perceived shortcomings of the owners (the absurdity of their business model for a Premiership football club is worthy of an essay in itself), I will try to restrict myself to discussing the role of manager and, in particular, your appointment to that position and performance to date. The nearest analogy I can use is to that of a disillusioned customer writing to a previously reliable supplier explaining why they feel disenfranchised by a change of management that has resulted in a major deterioration in service. I feel it is a fitting comparison given that, unlike your competitors, you appear to have a wider, more commercial brief than purely first team performance and results on the pitch. This conclusion is drawn largely because you are, unfortunately, the only channel of communication with the club and by your well-publicised, regular visits to India to report on Club accountability. Firstly, let me point out, in case it is not something you are familiar with that the only constant at any football club is the fan base. Owners and managers (especially managers) are transient but the fans remain loyal. They are your customers, they pay the bills and they, above all others, deserve the respect of the manager, players and staff. That is one of many lessons still to be learned, in your case, Mr Kean. With very few exceptions your fellow managers are journeymen, honing their craft in the lower divisions, building a backroom staff around them on the way, developing tactical systems, learning the negotiative skills of buying and selling, handling PR with diplomacy and tact. Eventually, having served that apprenticeship, they may be recruited, with a CV showing progress and success, to a Premiership club. They know when to bow out and when to stay. Sadly, your route to the top was instant and unfortunately your lack of managerial experience has manifested itself in areas of grave weakness over the last eighteen months:- • Showing contempt for the fans by insinuating you could sign players of the calibre of Beckham etc. • Alluding to Championship football within a short period at Ewood. • Boasting of a European place in your first season. • Bringing in players of such mediocre talent as Modeste and Goodwillie. • Naively signing your agent’s son (and ruining his career as a result) • Selling your outstanding and senior participants and then complaining that the reason for our relegation is a lack of experienced players. • Presenting defiance as positivity in your press conferences. • Steering the club to relegation. • Shifting the onus of blame onto the fans by decrying their legitimate protests. These shortcomings are to be expected in someone learning their craft but, sadly, the Premiership is not the training ground for would be leaders. It is the ultimate in professionalism, the very pinnacle for successful careers, where every word spoken, every tactic on the pitch, every sale and every purchase are subject to the minutest scrutiny. There is no learning curve, no room for error; judgements are harsh, instant and unforgiving. Your abilities as a man manager have to be questioned when so many experienced players have left: - Nelson, Samba, Emmerton, Andrews; skilled players side-lined: - Selgado (perhaps for commercial reasons) and Nzonzi. To be successful you have to have the ability to manage large, inflated egos and integrate them into a team. You simply can’t ignore talent of that calibre because you lack the skills to direct them. Your role is to manage, not befriend. You are there to discipline, motivate and develop players into a coercive and successful winning side, yet after every poor performance you appear, on radio, television and in the press as an apologist for the team and to lay the blame elsewhere. My advice to you would have been to demonstrate some humility earlier in the proceedings. Throughout the eighteen months that have culminated in relegation, not once have I heard you take responsibility for the poor performances and results. The buck stops with you! You are paid a very high salary to deliver results; that hasn’t happened. You should accept your shortcomings (a wise manger knows and acknowledges his weaknesses), raise your hands to the fans and cry “Mia Culpa”. The time to move on was at the end of last season, you could have escaped then with some vestige of self-respect intact. Sadly, your resolve to continue, to dismiss the protests against you and to remain defiant in the face of obvious inadequacies has led to the most vitriolic and unhealthy of relationships between the fans and yourself. It is not with dignity that you have tolerated the abuse but delusion. As we face the prospect of the Championship and perhaps an even more ignominious future, please take time to reassess your own position. Your relationship with the fans is not redeemable; take stock of yourself and consider what harm your continuing at the club is doing to you, your wife and your family. The pressure will remain relentless and will not be dimmed next season if you remain in office. Seek advice from those with experience who question your continued appointment and the harm it is doing, both to the club and to the community. Don’t talk to the sycophants around you, with vested interests in your appointment. Talk to people such as Jack Straw and Jake Berry, the local MP’s; to Gordon Taylor at the PFA, even Bishop Nicholas at the Cathedral. Read the views of respected football writers such as Henry Winter and Martin Samuel; many people value their opinions, don’t ignore or dismiss them. Listen to the elder statesmen within the game. But above all do not talk to people who will tell you what they think you want to hear! Go now, with an abject apology and you may just salvage some shred of credibility. Recharge your batteries over the summer and there may be a place for you within football, at a more realistic level to suit your ability. Please, for your sake, for the sake of the club and the community do not linger and allow this deplorable situation to continue. Yours sincerely, John H Lowe[/p][/quote]Very good letter Final word

10:09pm Sat 12 May 12

alfa111 says...

The Mighty Weetabix wrote:
Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die!
No think i will call you stupid.
[quote][p][bold]The Mighty Weetabix[/bold] wrote: Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die![/p][/quote]No think i will call you stupid. alfa111

10:33pm Sat 12 May 12

jogalot says...

"Me, my brother Venkatesh and my sister (Anuradha Desai), our entire family, has fallen in love with the club."
.
That's got to be the most ridiculous statement they've made so far. Total, utter lie.
"Me, my brother Venkatesh and my sister (Anuradha Desai), our entire family, has fallen in love with the club." . That's got to be the most ridiculous statement they've made so far. Total, utter lie. jogalot

10:40pm Sat 12 May 12

gleechy says...

Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.
But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him.

You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.
I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves.
I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.
[quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.[/p][/quote]Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.[/p][/quote]But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him. You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.[/p][/quote]I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves. I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT. gleechy

10:52pm Sat 12 May 12

petergray says...

John H Lowe -

That is the most naive post I have ever seen here.

Trying to reason with the diabolical scum???

May as well train an earthworm to write a best seller.


We either drive the boogars out or drop out of existence. .
John H Lowe - That is the most naive post I have ever seen here. Trying to reason with the diabolical scum??? May as well train an earthworm to write a best seller. We either drive the boogars out or drop out of existence. . petergray

11:34pm Sat 12 May 12

Dukes says...

Steve Kean is expected to be told by Blackburn's co-owner Anuradha Desai on Wednesday that he will remain manager of the club as they drop into the Championship - even though senior officials both at Ewood Park and Venky's HQ in Pune want him to be sacked.

Read more: http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2143521/St
eve-Keane-escapes-ax
e-Blackburn.html#ixz
z1uhIzn81w


Hope its not true.
Steve Kean is expected to be told by Blackburn's co-owner Anuradha Desai on Wednesday that he will remain manager of the club as they drop into the Championship - even though senior officials both at Ewood Park and Venky's HQ in Pune want him to be sacked. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2143521/St eve-Keane-escapes-ax e-Blackburn.html#ixz z1uhIzn81w Hope its not true. Dukes

6:41am Sun 13 May 12

Dan11 says...

Dukes wrote:
Steve Kean is expected to be told by Blackburn's co-owner Anuradha Desai on Wednesday that he will remain manager of the club as they drop into the Championship - even though senior officials both at Ewood Park and Venky's HQ in Pune want him to be sacked.

Read more: http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2143521/St

eve-Keane-escapes-ax

e-Blackburn.html#ixz

z1uhIzn81w


Hope its not true.
Sounds believable to me. She wants more face to face contact with her man. He clearly has hidden talents.
[quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: Steve Kean is expected to be told by Blackburn's co-owner Anuradha Desai on Wednesday that he will remain manager of the club as they drop into the Championship - even though senior officials both at Ewood Park and Venky's HQ in Pune want him to be sacked. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2143521/St eve-Keane-escapes-ax e-Blackburn.html#ixz z1uhIzn81w Hope its not true.[/p][/quote]Sounds believable to me. She wants more face to face contact with her man. He clearly has hidden talents. Dan11

6:44am Sun 13 May 12

stefjam says...

Meanwhile Ryan Nelsen is in a dispute with the club over a ‘golden handshake’ agreement following his January exit. all these ex employees... yer all cantz just in it for the cash... why has none of these ex employees come out & said something..
Meanwhile Ryan Nelsen is in a dispute with the club over a ‘golden handshake’ agreement following his January exit. all these ex employees... yer all cantz just in it for the cash... why has none of these ex employees come out & said something.. stefjam

8:03am Sun 13 May 12

LanghoDAN says...

iv never heard as much bollo&cks in my life they say its the saddest news since they lost his mother what a load off crap please
iv never heard as much bollo&cks in my life they say its the saddest news since they lost his mother what a load off crap please LanghoDAN

8:17am Sun 13 May 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

The Mighty Weetabix wrote:
Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die!
Bing bong wibble wibble peep peep snarp flarp fting yeeeehaaaaaa me giblets.
[quote][p][bold]The Mighty Weetabix[/bold] wrote: Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die![/p][/quote]Bing bong wibble wibble peep peep snarp flarp fting yeeeehaaaaaa me giblets. OnePostThenTheOther

8:32am Sun 13 May 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
fabinribblevalley wrote:
A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.
It amuses me no end with what your Grintwums write on here.

.....Me Kean I hope you read this posting!

Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets at matches and probably while he's walking around the supermarket that he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here? He has clearly demonstrated how thick his skin is so I doubt Internet abuse would phase him should the unlikely scenario unfold that he reads this.
FO DH. Go and eat your dinner. It's just fallen out of your dog's ar5e.

There, that's the last we'll hear from him.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fabinribblevalley[/bold] wrote: A letter to Mr Kean, Mr Kean I hope you read this posting. I am a pensioner and having been an ex. business man I am not one of the mob who chants obscenities from the terraces. I do not know the extent of your involvement at Ewood Park other than what I see on home match days. And that I must say is most disturbing. I believe you are totally out of your depth and have little or no knowledge of football management in general let alone premiership management. You have taken a lot of abuse over the season and showed great restraint and composure, for that I have some respect for you but surely to goodness you must now know it is time to go if for no other reason than YOUR own self respect. I have to ask what is this special relationship that you have with Mrs.Desai, it really does leave a lot to the imagination but I shall refrain from commenting further. The damage has now been done perhaps not your doing alone I think the Venky's have a lot to answer too leaving everybody wondering to what extent the Rovers will sink before we know the truth and you depart from this ( my) once great club. Please,please Mr.Kean leave NOW for everybody's sake including your own.[/p][/quote]It amuses me no end with what your Grintwums write on here. .....Me Kean I hope you read this posting! Do you honestly think that after all the abuse he gets at matches and probably while he's walking around the supermarket that he'd take the time to sit down and read the posts on here? He has clearly demonstrated how thick his skin is so I doubt Internet abuse would phase him should the unlikely scenario unfold that he reads this.[/p][/quote]FO DH. Go and eat your dinner. It's just fallen out of your dog's ar5e. There, that's the last we'll hear from him. OnePostThenTheOther

9:55am Sun 13 May 12

gleechy says...

gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.
But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him.

You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.
I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves.
I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.
By the way, "GET IT" was Rick flare's way of signing off after a bulsheet speech on WWF, I wasn't being offensive.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.[/p][/quote]Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.[/p][/quote]But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him. You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.[/p][/quote]I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves. I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.[/p][/quote]By the way, "GET IT" was Rick flare's way of signing off after a bulsheet speech on WWF, I wasn't being offensive. gleechy

10:00am Sun 13 May 12

Final word says...

gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.
But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him.

You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.
I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves.
I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.
I agree they are the underlying problem, but it sounded like you were making excuses for him in your first post - must have interpreted it wrong. I still think he and his agency have been giving them dodgy advice. Either that or they are in on something together.

He must know that all his lies incense the fans but he seems to do it to keep Venky's on side, what other explanation is there? Do you think Venky's tell him to say that we played well when we play Sh*t? In relation to the lies about Salgado and Nelson etc he is probably covering up for Venky's but could still have a say in it all if he thought the experienced players where undermining him. If he is being asked to lie for them then he should have had integrity and walk out but he didn't - thats what I'm GETTING at. They all need to get out as they are all as bad as each other.

We all need to keep the pressure on them.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.[/p][/quote]Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.[/p][/quote]But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him. You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.[/p][/quote]I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves. I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.[/p][/quote]I agree they are the underlying problem, but it sounded like you were making excuses for him in your first post - must have interpreted it wrong. I still think he and his agency have been giving them dodgy advice. Either that or they are in on something together. He must know that all his lies incense the fans but he seems to do it to keep Venky's on side, what other explanation is there? Do you think Venky's tell him to say that we played well when we play Sh*t? In relation to the lies about Salgado and Nelson etc he is probably covering up for Venky's but could still have a say in it all if he thought the experienced players where undermining him. If he is being asked to lie for them then he should have had integrity and walk out but he didn't - thats what I'm GETTING at. They all need to get out as they are all as bad as each other. We all need to keep the pressure on them. Final word

10:01am Sun 13 May 12

Final word says...

gleechy wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.
But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him.

You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.
I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves.
I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.
By the way, "GET IT" was Rick flare's way of signing off after a bulsheet speech on WWF, I wasn't being offensive.
Ha ha
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.[/p][/quote]Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.[/p][/quote]But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him. You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.[/p][/quote]I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves. I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.[/p][/quote]By the way, "GET IT" was Rick flare's way of signing off after a bulsheet speech on WWF, I wasn't being offensive.[/p][/quote]Ha ha Final word

10:01am Sun 13 May 12

Final word says...

gleechy wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Final word wrote:
gleechy wrote:
There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.
Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.
Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.
But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him.

You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.
I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves.
I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.
By the way, "GET IT" was Rick flare's way of signing off after a bulsheet speech on WWF, I wasn't being offensive.
Ha ha
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Final word[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: There will be very little gained by sacking the brilliant one. The owners are in tight control of hiring firing and cost control, which are the three main reasons why we are in such a mess. They are not fit to run a football team, whether the pathetic FA says they are or not. Mr Kean appears to be trying to do the work of about three people at the moment, and that is why it has taken so long before most of the players have got fed up with him. There is nobody else who could do this job or would do this job. It would be fair to say their cost cutting has gone too far. there will be no rebuilding at Ewood until these pirates are gone.[/p][/quote]Get a grip. Paul Hunt, John Williams etc weren't allowed to their job because Kean wouldn't let them. Are u being serious with this post? He got them both sacked/forced out as he wants to create a situation where he is in full control and become untouchable. You say very little will be gained from his sacking, I say a lot will be gained.[/p][/quote]Do you not get it? whoever got those employees sacked, it was the owners who wielded the axe. the person who replaces him is expected to do the whole running of the club from this end and cover up with lies to all. He is not comfortable with all this ducking and diving. he is in the public eye, and has to keep trying to string along a large following who know he is not up to it, and he knows. If it were possible to get rid of him, which idiot would be able to do what he does? He will go with the owners, because they complimemnt each other. His job will never be long term, just long enough to get as much as possible before they can't cover up any more.[/p][/quote]But if he was as dignified as people think he is then he would have walked away. He hasn't and he still says he can hold his head high. Instead he is using the club to play out his own ambition (and to earn as much as he can) when he is not up to it, that makes him a problem. Why does he not say to the owners that he should be answering to the directors instead of going straight to the owners. The food chain is totally messed up, how many other clubs do you see the manager above the directors etc? None. Whoever comes in in place of Hunt is holding a pointless position because they hold no power over the manager who is free to do what he likes and ruin the club - it stinks and eventually karma will catch up with him. You will never persuade me that kean is the victim here, he is abig part of the disease that has gripped the club.[/p][/quote]I never said Mr Kean is anything but a dead man walking. He is doing a none descript job, that will not be repeated at this club. The owners have let higher positions than Mr Hunt's go and not replaced. My main point is Venks or the owners are the underlying problem. Kean is just a tease, to fend off awkward questions, and only for that reason, I think he has the worst job in football at the moment, but again, it is part of his own making, and I too hope he gets what he deserves. I do not believe he is anything but a chancer, who probably gets off listening back to the tripe that he manages to spout, usually unchallenged. I can only think that he probably was a fan of WWF and that maybe where he has got it from. If venks just get rid of Mr Kean, they will need to replcae him with another Mr Kean, for their budget club running to work, That is my point.GET IT.[/p][/quote]By the way, "GET IT" was Rick flare's way of signing off after a bulsheet speech on WWF, I wasn't being offensive.[/p][/quote]Ha ha Final word

10:29am Sun 13 May 12

wilyrover says...

Mrs Desai will prove beyond all doubt that she should be nowhere next to near a football club if she listens to this snivelling little toad. It's time to kick Kean out of the door (in fact long past time). The thought of this cowboy recommending a management team beggars belief. I am amused by Balaji Roa stating that his family have fallen in love with the club. It certainly has been a long distance love affair in recent months. Actions speak louder than words Mr Roa, if your family and yourself truly love BRFC you will employ a proper manager rather than the boy scout who has brought the club down.
Mrs Desai will prove beyond all doubt that she should be nowhere next to near a football club if she listens to this snivelling little toad. It's time to kick Kean out of the door (in fact long past time). The thought of this cowboy recommending a management team beggars belief. I am amused by Balaji Roa stating that his family have fallen in love with the club. It certainly has been a long distance love affair in recent months. Actions speak louder than words Mr Roa, if your family and yourself truly love BRFC you will employ a proper manager rather than the boy scout who has brought the club down. wilyrover

12:40pm Sun 13 May 12

Rovers75 says...

The Mighty Weetabix wrote:
Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die!
oh god
[quote][p][bold]The Mighty Weetabix[/bold] wrote: Call me controversial, but I believe that sacking Steve Kean - after the loyalty he has shown in the face of considerable adversity this year - would be a backward step. We need all the good men we can get. Kean knows the workings of the club and I believe given time, he can win the dressing room and won the League. We will be back! Blackburn till I die![/p][/quote]oh god Rovers75

12:47pm Sun 13 May 12

Roverthere says...

This pathetic excuse for a manager must go ASAP in order to allow the club to move forward. The guy is a loser for BRFC and Venky's!
This pathetic excuse for a manager must go ASAP in order to allow the club to move forward. The guy is a loser for BRFC and Venky's! Roverthere

1:18pm Sun 13 May 12

Jimmy Jambone says...

samsno2millfan wrote:
UKdarran wrote:
Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
And they were still higher than Burn*eys!
I wouldn't know and don't really care, its not worth the effort.

The differences are probably so small you'd be relying on decimal points.

A few figures would help though if we really want to put this pathetic ongoing squabble to bed.

Any to hand Jimbo? Like I say, I can't be bothered.
Since I am the one making the assertion, it's up to me to provide what evidence I can.

I have struggled to find figures on official Rovers attendances so in the absence of evidence, I am willing to retract my statement.

I do however seem to remember that attendances at Ewood pre Walker were pretty uninspiring.

Anyway, I need to go and finish this letter I am writing to Steve Kean. I'll post it tomorrow and put a copy up on this message board for you all to see.

No, no. No need to thank me, I am just doing my bit.
[quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]UKdarran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.[/p][/quote]And they were still higher than Burn*eys![/p][/quote]I wouldn't know and don't really care, its not worth the effort. The differences are probably so small you'd be relying on decimal points. A few figures would help though if we really want to put this pathetic ongoing squabble to bed. Any to hand Jimbo? Like I say, I can't be bothered.[/p][/quote]Since I am the one making the assertion, it's up to me to provide what evidence I can. I have struggled to find figures on official Rovers attendances so in the absence of evidence, I am willing to retract my statement. I do however seem to remember that attendances at Ewood pre Walker were pretty uninspiring. Anyway, I need to go and finish this letter I am writing to Steve Kean. I'll post it tomorrow and put a copy up on this message board for you all to see. No, no. No need to thank me, I am just doing my bit. Jimmy Jambone

1:28pm Sun 13 May 12

Jimmy Jambone says...

Rovers75 wrote:
Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
Seeing as all you dingles are not only obsessed with Rovers but attendances aswell (which I assume is to convince yourselves your the big club you think you are and far superior to Rovers) here's a couple of stats for you courtesy of Wikipedia:
Burnleys 1986-87 Average home attendance: 3,257
Lowest v Bolton: 1,465. Your highest that year was the Leyton Orient game which I've heard anywhere between 17,000- 20,00 were packed into the wonderful Turf Moor in a bid to keep you in league football. In actual fact there was under 16,00....15,696 to be exact. Well done. Gold star. Your highest home attendance the previous year was....drum roll....4,279! Wow. Now don't get me wrong Jimmy, I'm not suggesting Rovers were getting monster crowds during the 80's, far from it but before you bleat on about attendances as some sort of badge of honour, at least take the time to realise that your support, whilst admittedly quite good for a medieval rat pit, has at times also been abysmal. How refreshing that was to enter a bit of dingle banter, rather than have to post about golf ball head or the poison from Pune.
My statement was:

'Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000'.

For some reason you start to talk about the Leyton Orient game. I'll now explain the reason and the workings of that tiny lizard brain of yours.

What you have done is attempt to paint my position as something it wasn't, and paint it as something you can more easily attack.

If you are so willing to misrepresent my position then why should anyone not believe that you are also as easily willing to misrepresent your own?
[quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.[/p][/quote]Seeing as all you dingles are not only obsessed with Rovers but attendances aswell (which I assume is to convince yourselves your the big club you think you are and far superior to Rovers) here's a couple of stats for you courtesy of Wikipedia: Burnleys 1986-87 Average home attendance: 3,257 Lowest v Bolton: 1,465. Your highest that year was the Leyton Orient game which I've heard anywhere between 17,000- 20,00 were packed into the wonderful Turf Moor in a bid to keep you in league football. In actual fact there was under 16,00....15,696 to be exact. Well done. Gold star. Your highest home attendance the previous year was....drum roll....4,279! Wow. Now don't get me wrong Jimmy, I'm not suggesting Rovers were getting monster crowds during the 80's, far from it but before you bleat on about attendances as some sort of badge of honour, at least take the time to realise that your support, whilst admittedly quite good for a medieval rat pit, has at times also been abysmal. How refreshing that was to enter a bit of dingle banter, rather than have to post about golf ball head or the poison from Pune.[/p][/quote]My statement was: 'Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000'. For some reason you start to talk about the Leyton Orient game. I'll now explain the reason and the workings of that tiny lizard brain of yours. What you have done is attempt to paint my position as something it wasn't, and paint it as something you can more easily attack. If you are so willing to misrepresent my position then why should anyone not believe that you are also as easily willing to misrepresent your own? Jimmy Jambone

1:31pm Sun 13 May 12

carlmc says...

It is quite obvious to all and Sundry that whilst Venky's are owners Kean will be manager.

Who know what the reason is? be it he is a part owner, money has been invested by him, his agent has more influence then he should have etc, this is all conjecture.

The curve ball being thrown that all but Mrs Desai want him sacked, is very easy to see through. Kean will announce later this week that he is to remain and irrespective of the highky likely poor start to next season will remain.

As has been stated by many other posters, the only way to get rid of him is to stay away. This way the owners may go and then Kean will be off. It will become obvious very soon that darker forces are at work when Kean remains as we struggle terribly in the championship. Hopefully the BRAG will convince the premier league that these dark forces exist at the up comming meeting, although I wont hold my breath.
It is quite obvious to all and Sundry that whilst Venky's are owners Kean will be manager. Who know what the reason is? be it he is a part owner, money has been invested by him, his agent has more influence then he should have etc, this is all conjecture. The curve ball being thrown that all but Mrs Desai want him sacked, is very easy to see through. Kean will announce later this week that he is to remain and irrespective of the highky likely poor start to next season will remain. As has been stated by many other posters, the only way to get rid of him is to stay away. This way the owners may go and then Kean will be off. It will become obvious very soon that darker forces are at work when Kean remains as we struggle terribly in the championship. Hopefully the BRAG will convince the premier league that these dark forces exist at the up comming meeting, although I wont hold my breath. carlmc

1:59pm Sun 13 May 12

Melanie :-) says...

Rovers75 wrote:
Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?
Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.
Seeing as all you dingles are not only obsessed with Rovers but attendances aswell (which I assume is to convince yourselves your the big club you think you are and far superior to Rovers) here's a couple of stats for you courtesy of Wikipedia:
Burnleys 1986-87 Average home attendance: 3,257
Lowest v Bolton: 1,465. Your highest that year was the Leyton Orient game which I've heard anywhere between 17,000- 20,00 were packed into the wonderful Turf Moor in a bid to keep you in league football. In actual fact there was under 16,00....15,696 to be exact. Well done. Gold star. Your highest home attendance the previous year was....drum roll....4,279! Wow. Now don't get me wrong Jimmy, I'm not suggesting Rovers were getting monster crowds during the 80's, far from it but before you bleat on about attendances as some sort of badge of honour, at least take the time to realise that your support, whilst admittedly quite good for a medieval rat pit, has at times also been abysmal. How refreshing that was to enter a bit of dingle banter, rather than have to post about golf ball head or the poison from Pune.
Funny, last time Rovers were in Championship, they averaged 20,000 and it was B*rnley that were in the mid-teens.

(As are most of your fans judging by the quality of the posts)

From: http://ewoodpark.jim
do.com

===================

One of the common Blackburn baiting totems by the Burnley myth making machine is that Burnley are a better supported club than Blackburn Rovers.

Burnley fans generally present themselves as a troupe of extremely confrontational zealots.

Most have demonstrated that they have no knowledge of anything at all, particularly Blackburn Rovers and football - but they do have one talent - the ability to ignore what they dare not acknowledge - that Blackburn Rovers are a bigger, better supported and more successful football club than Burnley.

There are many enduring myths in football, that Burnley are a bigger and better supported club than Blackburn Rovers is but one of them.

However, I believe in facts.

Statistics go back to 1889, 122 years. It may come as a shock to some, but there have only been 32 years out of 122 years when Burnley have averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers - the last time being just over a quarter of a century ago in the 1900's, 29 years to be precise - 1983.

Below are the average attendances of both Blackburn Rovers and Burnley when they have either (a) been in the same league together or (b) when they have been in the same league at different times or (c) when Blackburn Rovers have been in a lower league but have still managed to average higher attendances.

It is also worth highlighting the fact that the Blackburn conurbation consists of Darwen; population approximately: 135,000.

The Burnley conurbation consists of Read, Simonstone, Paddiham, Brierfield, Briercliffe, Worsthorne, Nelson and Colne; population approximately: 150,000.

The 1950's were a very thin period for Blackburn Rovers. 1949-1959 were spent in Division 2 (1966-1992 spent in Division's 2 and 3) while Burnley spent the 1950's in Division 1 winning the Division 1 Championship in 1960 - in 1960 Rovers still managed to average bigger attendances than Burnley, (see below).

Still, Rovers attendance figures during the 1950's compared favourably with Burnley, as can be seen below:

BRFC 1950s -
1958 2 22.708
1957 2 23.091
1955 2 26.928

BFC 1950s -
1958 1 22.251
1957 1 22.493
1955 1 25.094

Burnley's fortunes relative to Rovers' throughout the 1950's, 1960's and the 1970's were far greater.

In 1960 Burnley won the Division 1 Blackburn -Rovers1960 - 27.299

Burnley Division 1 Champions -
1960 - 26.978

Both clubs slowly went into decline during the 1960's, 1970's and 1980's.

Rovers’ fortunes then slowly began to improve as the 1980's progressed.

Rovers' decline began in 1966.

Burnley's decline began in 1977.

Blackburn Rovers in Division 3:
1975 - 12.651
1974 - 7.432
1973 - 9.214
1972 - 8.256

Burnley in Division 3:
1985 - 4.177
1984 - 6.625
1982 - 6.936
1981- 6.469

At the end of the 1997-1998 season, Rovers were relegated to Division 1, now renamed The Championship.

This allowed Rovers to renew their rivalry with Burnley with two memorable victories for Rovers - on and off the pitch:

Blackburn Rovers in The Championship -
2001 - 20.740

Burnley in The Championship -
2001 - 16.442

Burnley finally gained promotion to Division one, now renamed The Premier League.

This allowed them to renew their rivalry with Rovers with two memorable victories for Rovers - on and off the pitch.
Blackburn Rovers in The Premier League - 2010 - 25.428

Burnley in The Premier League
2010 - 20.654

Statistics go back to 1889, 122 years.

There are only 32 years out of 122 years when Burnley have had higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers.

Of those 122 years, Blackburn Rovers and Burnley have only ever been in the same Division together during 39 of them.

In 15 years out of the 39 years when the two clubs have been in the same Division, Burnley have averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers.

In 24 years out of the 39 years when the two clubs have been in the same Division, Blackburn Rovers have averaged higher attendances than Burnley.

The other 17 years when Burnley have averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers have come when Blackburn Rovers have been in a lower Division.

Burnley have never averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers when in a lower Division than Blackburn Rovers.

Blackburn Rovers have averaged higher attendances than Burnley when in a lower Division than Burnley: 1955; 1957 and 1958.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teens 13000-16000. Personally I would like to see single thousands. Then maybe you venkeys just might have a re-think about selling up. I live in hope. Also I was hoping to see you at Chelsea just for a little chat ?[/p][/quote]Well if it goes to attendances pre Walker era, it will be down to 5,000.[/p][/quote]Seeing as all you dingles are not only obsessed with Rovers but attendances aswell (which I assume is to convince yourselves your the big club you think you are and far superior to Rovers) here's a couple of stats for you courtesy of Wikipedia: Burnleys 1986-87 Average home attendance: 3,257 Lowest v Bolton: 1,465. Your highest that year was the Leyton Orient game which I've heard anywhere between 17,000- 20,00 were packed into the wonderful Turf Moor in a bid to keep you in league football. In actual fact there was under 16,00....15,696 to be exact. Well done. Gold star. Your highest home attendance the previous year was....drum roll....4,279! Wow. Now don't get me wrong Jimmy, I'm not suggesting Rovers were getting monster crowds during the 80's, far from it but before you bleat on about attendances as some sort of badge of honour, at least take the time to realise that your support, whilst admittedly quite good for a medieval rat pit, has at times also been abysmal. How refreshing that was to enter a bit of dingle banter, rather than have to post about golf ball head or the poison from Pune.[/p][/quote]Funny, last time Rovers were in Championship, they averaged 20,000 and it was B*rnley that were in the mid-teens. (As are most of your fans judging by the quality of the posts) From: http://ewoodpark.jim do.com =================== One of the common Blackburn baiting totems by the Burnley myth making machine is that Burnley are a better supported club than Blackburn Rovers. Burnley fans generally present themselves as a troupe of extremely confrontational zealots. Most have demonstrated that they have no knowledge of anything at all, particularly Blackburn Rovers and football - but they do have one talent - the ability to ignore what they dare not acknowledge - that Blackburn Rovers are a bigger, better supported and more successful football club than Burnley. There are many enduring myths in football, that Burnley are a bigger and better supported club than Blackburn Rovers is but one of them. However, I believe in facts. Statistics go back to 1889, 122 years. It may come as a shock to some, but there have only been 32 years out of 122 years when Burnley have averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers - the last time being just over a quarter of a century ago in the 1900's, 29 years to be precise - 1983. Below are the average attendances of both Blackburn Rovers and Burnley when they have either (a) been in the same league together or (b) when they have been in the same league at different times or (c) when Blackburn Rovers have been in a lower league but have still managed to average higher attendances. It is also worth highlighting the fact that the Blackburn conurbation consists of Darwen; population approximately: 135,000. The Burnley conurbation consists of Read, Simonstone, Paddiham, Brierfield, Briercliffe, Worsthorne, Nelson and Colne; population approximately: 150,000. The 1950's were a very thin period for Blackburn Rovers. 1949-1959 were spent in Division 2 (1966-1992 spent in Division's 2 and 3) while Burnley spent the 1950's in Division 1 winning the Division 1 Championship in 1960 - in 1960 Rovers still managed to average bigger attendances than Burnley, (see below). Still, Rovers attendance figures during the 1950's compared favourably with Burnley, as can be seen below: BRFC 1950s - 1958 2 22.708 1957 2 23.091 1955 2 26.928 BFC 1950s - 1958 1 22.251 1957 1 22.493 1955 1 25.094 Burnley's fortunes relative to Rovers' throughout the 1950's, 1960's and the 1970's were far greater. In 1960 Burnley won the Division 1 Blackburn -Rovers1960 - 27.299 Burnley Division 1 Champions - 1960 - 26.978 Both clubs slowly went into decline during the 1960's, 1970's and 1980's. Rovers’ fortunes then slowly began to improve as the 1980's progressed. Rovers' decline began in 1966. Burnley's decline began in 1977. Blackburn Rovers in Division 3: 1975 - 12.651 1974 - 7.432 1973 - 9.214 1972 - 8.256 Burnley in Division 3: 1985 - 4.177 1984 - 6.625 1982 - 6.936 1981- 6.469 At the end of the 1997-1998 season, Rovers were relegated to Division 1, now renamed The Championship. This allowed Rovers to renew their rivalry with Burnley with two memorable victories for Rovers - on and off the pitch: Blackburn Rovers in The Championship - 2001 - 20.740 Burnley in The Championship - 2001 - 16.442 Burnley finally gained promotion to Division one, now renamed The Premier League. This allowed them to renew their rivalry with Rovers with two memorable victories for Rovers - on and off the pitch. Blackburn Rovers in The Premier League - 2010 - 25.428 Burnley in The Premier League 2010 - 20.654 Statistics go back to 1889, 122 years. There are only 32 years out of 122 years when Burnley have had higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers. Of those 122 years, Blackburn Rovers and Burnley have only ever been in the same Division together during 39 of them. In 15 years out of the 39 years when the two clubs have been in the same Division, Burnley have averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers. In 24 years out of the 39 years when the two clubs have been in the same Division, Blackburn Rovers have averaged higher attendances than Burnley. The other 17 years when Burnley have averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers have come when Blackburn Rovers have been in a lower Division. Burnley have never averaged higher attendances than Blackburn Rovers when in a lower Division than Blackburn Rovers. Blackburn Rovers have averaged higher attendances than Burnley when in a lower Division than Burnley: 1955; 1957 and 1958. Melanie :-)

2:08pm Sun 13 May 12

Melanie :-) says...

As for the pre-Jack Walker 5,000 myth:

2010’s average: 23.775
2011-2012: 22.551
2010-2010: 25.000

2000’s average: 23.619
2009-2010: 25.428
2008-2009: 23.479
2007-2008: 23.944
2006-2007: 21.275
2005-2006: 21.015
2004-2005: 22.315
2003-2004: 24.376
2002-2003: 26.225
2001-2002: 25.976
2000-2001: 20.740

1990's average: 20.337
1999-2000: 19.253
1998-1999: 25.764
1997-1998: 25.253
1996-1997: 24.947
1995-1996: 27.552
1994-1995: 25.653
1993-1994: 17.319
1992-1993: 16.247
1990-1991: 8.100

1980's average: 9.003
1989-1990: 9.607
1988-1989: 8.864
1987-1988: 9.503
1986-1987: 6.773
1985-1986: 5.826
1984-1985: 9.648
1983-1984: 7.623
1982-1983: 7.353
1981-1982: 8.655
1980-1981: 11.688

1970's average: 10.038
1979-1980: 10.311
1978-1979: 8.640
1977-1978: 12.227
1976-1977: 10.130
1975-1976: 10.489
1974-1975: 12.651
1973-1974: 7.432
1972-1973: 9.214
1971-1972: 8.256
1970-1971: 8.334

1960's average: 15.380
1969-1970: 12.523
1968-1969: 10.617
1967-1968: 13.531
1966-1967: 14.721
1965-1966: 13.513
1964-1965: 16.110
1963-1964: 21.543
1962-1963: 16.001
1961-1962: 15.906
1960-1961: 19.343

1950's average: 25.096
1959-1960: 27.299
1958-1959: 30.544
1957-1958: 22.708
1956-1957: 23.091
1955-1956: 23.001
1954-1955: 26.928
1953-1954: 26.123
1952-1953: 23.157
1951-1952: 23.228
1950-1951: 24.830

1940's post Second World War average: 24.755
1949-1950: 22.351
1948-1949: 22.421
1947-1948: 27.883
1946-1947: 26.367

1930's average: 14.705
1938-1939: 18.262
1937-1938: 14.779
1936-1937: 14.821
1935-1936: 15.498
1944-1935: 13.166
1933-1934: 14.005
1932-1933: 12.944
1931-1932: 13.176
1930-1931: 15.701


1920's average: 19.646
1929-1930: 18.714
1928-1929: 16.841
1927-1928: 19.120
1926-1927: 18.891
1925-1926: 17.775
1924-1925: 16.340
1923-1924: 18.520
1922-1923: 18.755
1921-1922: 23.580
1920-1921: 27.930

1910's average: 17.303
1919-1920: 18.110
1914-1915: 12.740
1913-1914: 22.295
1912-1913: 18.560
1911-1912: 17.765
1910-1911: 14.350

1900's average: 10.980
1909-1910: 13.805
1908-1909: 14.745
1907-1908: 13.270
1906-1907: 12.265
1905-1906: 12.920
1904-1905: 11.145
1903-1904: 9.395
1902-1903: 8.080
1901-1902: 7.950
1900-1901: 6.225

1890's average: 7.151
1899-1900: 6.725
1898-1899: 8.920
1898-1898: 7.845
1896-1897: 7.005
1895-1896: 7.810
1894-1895: 7.910
1893-1894: 6.420
1892-1893: 5.970
1891-1892: 5.105
1890-1891: 7.805

1880's average: 6.355
1889-1890: 7.205
1888-1889: 5.505
As for the pre-Jack Walker 5,000 myth: 2010’s average: 23.775 2011-2012: 22.551 2010-2010: 25.000 2000’s average: 23.619 2009-2010: 25.428 2008-2009: 23.479 2007-2008: 23.944 2006-2007: 21.275 2005-2006: 21.015 2004-2005: 22.315 2003-2004: 24.376 2002-2003: 26.225 2001-2002: 25.976 2000-2001: 20.740 1990's average: 20.337 1999-2000: 19.253 1998-1999: 25.764 1997-1998: 25.253 1996-1997: 24.947 1995-1996: 27.552 1994-1995: 25.653 1993-1994: 17.319 1992-1993: 16.247 1990-1991: 8.100 1980's average: 9.003 1989-1990: 9.607 1988-1989: 8.864 1987-1988: 9.503 1986-1987: 6.773 1985-1986: 5.826 1984-1985: 9.648 1983-1984: 7.623 1982-1983: 7.353 1981-1982: 8.655 1980-1981: 11.688 1970's average: 10.038 1979-1980: 10.311 1978-1979: 8.640 1977-1978: 12.227 1976-1977: 10.130 1975-1976: 10.489 1974-1975: 12.651 1973-1974: 7.432 1972-1973: 9.214 1971-1972: 8.256 1970-1971: 8.334 1960's average: 15.380 1969-1970: 12.523 1968-1969: 10.617 1967-1968: 13.531 1966-1967: 14.721 1965-1966: 13.513 1964-1965: 16.110 1963-1964: 21.543 1962-1963: 16.001 1961-1962: 15.906 1960-1961: 19.343 1950's average: 25.096 1959-1960: 27.299 1958-1959: 30.544 1957-1958: 22.708 1956-1957: 23.091 1955-1956: 23.001 1954-1955: 26.928 1953-1954: 26.123 1952-1953: 23.157 1951-1952: 23.228 1950-1951: 24.830 1940's post Second World War average: 24.755 1949-1950: 22.351 1948-1949: 22.421 1947-1948: 27.883 1946-1947: 26.367 1930's average: 14.705 1938-1939: 18.262 1937-1938: 14.779 1936-1937: 14.821 1935-1936: 15.498 1944-1935: 13.166 1933-1934: 14.005 1932-1933: 12.944 1931-1932: 13.176 1930-1931: 15.701 1920's average: 19.646 1929-1930: 18.714 1928-1929: 16.841 1927-1928: 19.120 1926-1927: 18.891 1925-1926: 17.775 1924-1925: 16.340 1923-1924: 18.520 1922-1923: 18.755 1921-1922: 23.580 1920-1921: 27.930 1910's average: 17.303 1919-1920: 18.110 1914-1915: 12.740 1913-1914: 22.295 1912-1913: 18.560 1911-1912: 17.765 1910-1911: 14.350 1900's average: 10.980 1909-1910: 13.805 1908-1909: 14.745 1907-1908: 13.270 1906-1907: 12.265 1905-1906: 12.920 1904-1905: 11.145 1903-1904: 9.395 1902-1903: 8.080 1901-1902: 7.950 1900-1901: 6.225 1890's average: 7.151 1899-1900: 6.725 1898-1899: 8.920 1898-1898: 7.845 1896-1897: 7.005 1895-1896: 7.810 1894-1895: 7.910 1893-1894: 6.420 1892-1893: 5.970 1891-1892: 5.105 1890-1891: 7.805 1880's average: 6.355 1889-1890: 7.205 1888-1889: 5.505 Melanie :-)

2:23pm Sun 13 May 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
Rovers75 wrote:
Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teensGod you're boring!

I bet you're covered in tattoos and don't have a boyfriend (or girlfriend).
You need to get out more. Assuming you mobo cart will take the weight that is.
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teensGod you're boring! I bet you're covered in tattoos and don't have a boyfriend (or girlfriend). You need to get out more. Assuming you mobo cart will take the weight that is. Cha'mone MF

5:57pm Sun 13 May 12

bburnrover says...

I cannot see any logical reason why Kean would expect to retain his job.
The main reason for getting rid is his incompetence to carry out his post.
A few secondary reasons are unless he goes noone unless they are brainless sheep will renew their season tickets.
The other reasons are that we have a lot of contracted signing made by Mr Kean who have also proven that they are not good enough to play in the Premiership so why keep them? Kean does not play them does he? Rochina,Goodwille,Pe
trovic.Vukavich,Blac
kman and Slew.
Formica may as well be included as although he did play he was also found wanting too.
I amd my son will only return to Ewood if she dismisses Kean and brings in a new board and clears out the dead wood.
I cannot see any logical reason why Kean would expect to retain his job. The main reason for getting rid is his incompetence to carry out his post. A few secondary reasons are unless he goes noone unless they are brainless sheep will renew their season tickets. The other reasons are that we have a lot of contracted signing made by Mr Kean who have also proven that they are not good enough to play in the Premiership so why keep them? Kean does not play them does he? Rochina,Goodwille,Pe trovic.Vukavich,Blac kman and Slew. Formica may as well be included as although he did play he was also found wanting too. I amd my son will only return to Ewood if she dismisses Kean and brings in a new board and clears out the dead wood. bburnrover

7:04pm Sun 13 May 12

Melanie :-) says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Melanie :-) wrote:
Rovers75 wrote:
Jimmy Jambone wrote:
Brfc24138931 wrote:
You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teensGod you're boring!

I bet you're covered in tattoos and don't have a boyfriend (or girlfriend).
You need to get out more. Assuming you mobo cart will take the weight that is.Says the B*rnley we'rdo, lurking on Rovers message forums, obsessing about BRFC and telling Rovers fans to o away.

You really couldn't make that sh*t up.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmy Jambone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: You will realise next season why you should have listened to the supporters. Attendances will be in the mid teensGod you're boring! I bet you're covered in tattoos and don't have a boyfriend (or girlfriend). You need to get out more. Assuming you mobo cart will take the weight that is.[/p][/quote]Says the B*rnley we'rdo, lurking on Rovers message forums, obsessing about BRFC and telling Rovers fans to o away. You really couldn't make that sh*t up. Melanie :-)

7:06pm Sun 13 May 12

whittaker0 says...

I think that Mrs Desai will only sack Steve Kean if there is no other way out of the falling Season ticket sales, Rover store and other sales outlets. For me it is crucial that Rovers fans do not spend a penny at Rovers until Steve Kean is sacked and sanity reinstated. Mrs Desai clearly has a bond with Steve Kean and this is the only way out.
I think that Mrs Desai will only sack Steve Kean if there is no other way out of the falling Season ticket sales, Rover store and other sales outlets. For me it is crucial that Rovers fans do not spend a penny at Rovers until Steve Kean is sacked and sanity reinstated. Mrs Desai clearly has a bond with Steve Kean and this is the only way out. whittaker0

7:06pm Sun 13 May 12

samsno2millfan says...

Melanie :-) wrote:
As for the pre-Jack Walker 5,000 myth: 2010’s average: 23.775 2011-2012: 22.551 2010-2010: 25.000 2000’s average: 23.619 2009-2010: 25.428 2008-2009: 23.479 2007-2008: 23.944 2006-2007: 21.275 2005-2006: 21.015 2004-2005: 22.315 2003-2004: 24.376 2002-2003: 26.225 2001-2002: 25.976 2000-2001: 20.740 1990's average: 20.337 1999-2000: 19.253 1998-1999: 25.764 1997-1998: 25.253 1996-1997: 24.947 1995-1996: 27.552 1994-1995: 25.653 1993-1994: 17.319 1992-1993: 16.247 1990-1991: 8.100 1980's average: 9.003 1989-1990: 9.607 1988-1989: 8.864 1987-1988: 9.503 1986-1987: 6.773 1985-1986: 5.826 1984-1985: 9.648 1983-1984: 7.623 1982-1983: 7.353 1981-1982: 8.655 1980-1981: 11.688 1970's average: 10.038 1979-1980: 10.311 1978-1979: 8.640 1977-1978: 12.227 1976-1977: 10.130 1975-1976: 10.489 1974-1975: 12.651 1973-1974: 7.432 1972-1973: 9.214 1971-1972: 8.256 1970-1971: 8.334 1960's average: 15.380 1969-1970: 12.523 1968-1969: 10.617 1967-1968: 13.531 1966-1967: 14.721 1965-1966: 13.513 1964-1965: 16.110 1963-1964: 21.543 1962-1963: 16.001 1961-1962: 15.906 1960-1961: 19.343 1950's average: 25.096 1959-1960: 27.299 1958-1959: 30.544 1957-1958: 22.708 1956-1957: 23.091 1955-1956: 23.001 1954-1955: 26.928 1953-1954: 26.123 1952-1953: 23.157 1951-1952: 23.228 1950-1951: 24.830 1940's post Second World War average: 24.755 1949-1950: 22.351 1948-1949: 22.421 1947-1948: 27.883 1946-1947: 26.367 1930's average: 14.705 1938-1939: 18.262 1937-1938: 14.779 1936-1937: 14.821 1935-1936: 15.498 1944-1935: 13.166 1933-1934: 14.005 1932-1933: 12.944 1931-1932: 13.176 1930-1931: 15.701 1920's average: 19.646 1929-1930: 18.714 1928-1929: 16.841 1927-1928: 19.120 1926-1927: 18.891 1925-1926: 17.775 1924-1925: 16.340 1923-1924: 18.520 1922-1923: 18.755 1921-1922: 23.580 1920-1921: 27.930 1910's average: 17.303 1919-1920: 18.110 1914-1915: 12.740 1913-1914: 22.295 1912-1913: 18.560 1911-1912: 17.765 1910-1911: 14.350 1900's average: 10.980 1909-1910: 13.805 1908-1909: 14.745 1907-1908: 13.270 1906-1907: 12.265 1905-1906: 12.920 1904-1905: 11.145 1903-1904: 9.395 1902-1903: 8.080 1901-1902: 7.950 1900-1901: 6.225 1890's average: 7.151 1899-1900: 6.725 1898-1899: 8.920 1898-1898: 7.845 1896-1897: 7.005 1895-1896: 7.810 1894-1895: 7.910 1893-1894: 6.420 1892-1893: 5.970 1891-1892: 5.105 1890-1891: 7.805 1880's average: 6.355 1889-1890: 7.205 1888-1889: 5.505
Wow!

And come on, girl, pull your finger out, we need the Burnleh figures as well.

They still wont believe them so we'll need you to provide names and addresses for authentication purposes.

I appreciate a lot may no longer be with us; a contact number for any surviving family member will do.
[quote][p][bold]Melanie :-)[/bold] wrote: As for the pre-Jack Walker 5,000 myth: 2010’s average: 23.775 2011-2012: 22.551 2010-2010: 25.000 2000’s average: 23.619 2009-2010: 25.428 2008-2009: 23.479 2007-2008: 23.944 2006-2007: 21.275 2005-2006: 21.015 2004-2005: 22.315 2003-2004: 24.376 2002-2003: 26.225 2001-2002: 25.976 2000-2001: 20.740 1990's average: 20.337 1999-2000: 19.253 1998-1999: 25.764 1997-1998: 25.253 1996-1997: 24.947 1995-1996: 27.552 1994-1995: 25.653 1993-1994: 17.319 1992-1993: 16.247 1990-1991: 8.100 1980's average: 9.003 1989-1990: 9.607 1988-1989: 8.864 1987-1988: 9.503 1986-1987: 6.773 1985-1986: 5.826 1984-1985: 9.648 1983-1984: 7.623 1982-1983: 7.353 1981-1982: 8.655 1980-1981: 11.688 1970's average: 10.038 1979-1980: 10.311 1978-1979: 8.640 1977-1978: 12.227 1976-1977: 10.130 1975-1976: 10.489 1974-1975: 12.651 1973-1974: 7.432 1972-1973: 9.214 1971-1972: 8.256 1970-1971: 8.334 1960's average: 15.380 1969-1970: 12.523 1968-1969: 10.617 1967-1968: 13.531 1966-1967: 14.721 1965-1966: 13.513 1964-1965: 16.110 1963-1964: 21.543 1962-1963: 16.001 1961-1962: 15.906 1960-1961: 19.343 1950's average: 25.096 1959-1960: 27.299 1958-1959: 30.544 1957-1958: 22.708 1956-1957: 23.091 1955-1956: 23.001 1954-1955: 26.928 1953-1954: 26.123 1952-1953: 23.157 1951-1952: 23.228 1950-1951: 24.830 1940's post Second World War average: 24.755 1949-1950: 22.351 1948-1949: 22.421 1947-1948: 27.883 1946-1947: 26.367 1930's average: 14.705 1938-1939: 18.262 1937-1938: 14.779 1936-1937: 14.821 1935-1936: 15.498 1944-1935: 13.166 1933-1934: 14.005 1932-1933: 12.944 1931-1932: 13.176 1930-1931: 15.701 1920's average: 19.646 1929-1930: 18.714 1928-1929: 16.841 1927-1928: 19.120 1926-1927: 18.891 1925-1926: 17.775 1924-1925: 16.340 1923-1924: 18.520 1922-1923: 18.755 1921-1922: 23.580 1920-1921: 27.930 1910's average: 17.303 1919-1920: 18.110 1914-1915: 12.740 1913-1914: 22.295 1912-1913: 18.560 1911-1912: 17.765 1910-1911: 14.350 1900's average: 10.980 1909-1910: 13.805 1908-1909: 14.745 1907-1908: 13.270 1906-1907: 12.265 1905-1906: 12.920 1904-1905: 11.145 1903-1904: 9.395 1902-1903: 8.080 1901-1902: 7.950 1900-1901: 6.225 1890's average: 7.151 1899-1900: 6.725 1898-1899: 8.920 1898-1898: 7.845 1896-1897: 7.005 1895-1896: 7.810 1894-1895: 7.910 1893-1894: 6.420 1892-1893: 5.970 1891-1892: 5.105 1890-1891: 7.805 1880's average: 6.355 1889-1890: 7.205 1888-1889: 5.505[/p][/quote]Wow! And come on, girl, pull your finger out, we need the Burnleh figures as well. They still wont believe them so we'll need you to provide names and addresses for authentication purposes. I appreciate a lot may no longer be with us; a contact number for any surviving family member will do. samsno2millfan

11:08pm Sun 13 May 12

Cumbrian Blue says...

Can anyone confirm if Venkys were at the Chelsea game? Or were the reports of their 'last minute' cancellation true? I'm betting it was another no show.
Can anyone confirm if Venkys were at the Chelsea game? Or were the reports of their 'last minute' cancellation true? I'm betting it was another no show. Cumbrian Blue

3:56pm Mon 14 May 12

FrankWHarrop says...

Aston Villa sack their manager and he stayed in Premier. How can Kean be so confident he is "here for the long term" - What is his secret? Come on Andy get on the case. This has shades of "insider trading!"
Aston Villa sack their manager and he stayed in Premier. How can Kean be so confident he is "here for the long term" - What is his secret? Come on Andy get on the case. This has shades of "insider trading!" FrankWHarrop

11:24pm Mon 14 May 12

Canary Boy says...

Kean exposed...google his name and watch the video of him slagging off Big Sam in a bar in Hong Kong...out for good me expects!!!
Kean exposed...google his name and watch the video of him slagging off Big Sam in a bar in Hong Kong...out for good me expects!!! Canary Boy

11:35pm Mon 14 May 12

Sportivo says...

Has everyone seen this?

Kean is deluded.

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?feature=pla

yer_embedded&v=9xcB9

XfLjL8
Has everyone seen this? Kean is deluded. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?feature=pla yer_embedded&v=9xcB9 XfLjL8 Sportivo

12:41am Tue 15 May 12

wind2170 says...

Backstabber kean ...SACK HIM NOW


http://www.talksport
.co.uk/magazine/vira
ls/120514/video-stev
e-keans-astonishing-
expletive-ridden-ran
t-about-sam-allardyc
e-172074
Backstabber kean ...SACK HIM NOW http://www.talksport .co.uk/magazine/vira ls/120514/video-stev e-keans-astonishing- expletive-ridden-ran t-about-sam-allardyc e-172074 wind2170

2:30am Tue 15 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

KEAN SHOWING HIS TRUE COLOURS!!! Looks like Venkys could be in for legal action from Sam's lawyers - courtesy of Mr Kean. This could see him sacked without a pay off!!

http://alturl.com/z7
mi7
KEAN SHOWING HIS TRUE COLOURS!!! Looks like Venkys could be in for legal action from Sam's lawyers - courtesy of Mr Kean. This could see him sacked without a pay off!! http://alturl.com/z7 mi7 smellthecoffee

7:40am Tue 15 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
KEAN SHOWING HIS TRUE COLOURS!!! Looks like Venkys could be in for legal action from Sam's lawyers - courtesy of Mr Kean. This could see him sacked without a pay off!! http://alturl.com/z7 mi7
This is utter humiliation for Venkys. If they DO own the club outright then they have little choice now than to sack the manager. You cannot go spouting your mouth off in public like that and expect to get away with it. If they fail to sack him now then it is likely they could end up on the receiving end of a legal battle with SA's legal representatives. The nightmare of Steve Kean could soon be over for Rovers' fans!! Surely these (along with his abject failure as a manager and his drink driving conviction) are sufficient grounds to sack him without a pay off??!!
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: KEAN SHOWING HIS TRUE COLOURS!!! Looks like Venkys could be in for legal action from Sam's lawyers - courtesy of Mr Kean. This could see him sacked without a pay off!! http://alturl.com/z7 mi7[/p][/quote]This is utter humiliation for Venkys. If they DO own the club outright then they have little choice now than to sack the manager. You cannot go spouting your mouth off in public like that and expect to get away with it. If they fail to sack him now then it is likely they could end up on the receiving end of a legal battle with SA's legal representatives. The nightmare of Steve Kean could soon be over for Rovers' fans!! Surely these (along with his abject failure as a manager and his drink driving conviction) are sufficient grounds to sack him without a pay off??!! smellthecoffee

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