Rovers boss in call to get tough (From Lancashire Telegraph)

If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Sounds like MA has realised already that the problems both on and off the field are alot worse than he thought before arriving at the club.

At least he sounds like he is shipping some out and preparing to bring in some new (much needed) fresh faces.

Michael ,perhaps you should consider bringing in an older guy to take the pressure off , a senior older experienced ex manager .
A gut that does not want the day to day running of a club but still wants to be involved and has the experience to help you , you have worked under good managers before ,and nearly all older guys ,the older guy the Fergusons, Wengers, Hodgsons ,Benitez,Jol, Redknapps, are all working but there is tons of older guys you could bring in that have a wealth of untapped experience on man management ,helping you get the best out of what you have, and the older guys do have football nous.

You`re 37 a young manager and lets be very honest with very little experience at management , you would still be the manager the older guy would be your assistant /advisor.

YOU do not need any more management nearly same age as the players.

Ryanb74 wrote:
If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

Angry From Accrington wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote:
If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

Agreed - was a complete embarrassment. I've got nothing against the protests, but the snowball incident lacked any common sense. There really are a minority of morons

Jansen_10 wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote:
If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

Agreed - was a complete embarrassment. I've got nothing against the protests, but the snowball incident lacked any common sense. There really are a minority of morons

Yep, me too. Just confirms the medi's view of us in my view. Idiotic.

A diplomatic way of saying that some of the players are not committed, and after we concede the second goal, some of them threw the towel in and gave up.
I have been saying for ages now, some of these players are not committed and are going through the motions, and they need to be sold. They are like a cancer on the field. You should not be giving up against a mediocre side like Charlton when 2-1 down at home.

a consensus is emerging that a significant number of the playing staff are not up to it and Appleton is the first manager to publicly acknowledge the fact- well done. He now needs to back that up with action. As for the snowball- well whatever you think of Venkys that was a shameful act and not becoming of Rovers. There is a way to protest and that's not it.

Rover_gem wrote:

Jansen_10 wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote:
If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

Agreed - was a complete embarrassment. I've got nothing against the protests, but the snowball incident lacked any common sense. There really are a minority of morons

Yep, me too. Just confirms the medi's view of us in my view. Idiotic.

Absolutely pathetic behaviour - Venkys dragging us down and so are some idiotic fans!

Our new captain (self titled) has set sail and we are headed south.

Dreadful display on Saturday. Atmosphere irrelevent.
His substitutions were garbage, MGP when we needed some bite and threat up front.

Still I shall continue to hope he may just be able to turn us around, but I doubt it.

Atmosphere totally relevant-it used to be worth a goal. Plenty of threat up front with Rhodes but it needs a supply line-something that won't be there with certain lazy players and one who doesn't know when to stop dribbling and attempting circus tricks instead of passing. Who was on that bench with any bite?

Did not see snowball from Riverside. It surely must of been a young guy or a child that did that. A stupid thing to do!

“They have three home games in quick succession and it is going to be a challenge for them, it is going to be a challenge for everyone.”

"They have" / "challenge for them" its We have, challenge for us !!

You are part of it.....!!

Nice statement by the players on saturday......but your still getting paid so start pulling your weight!

seems strange gary bower can win 2 and draw one but now ???? as for v
venkys they should have never come to that game .

At last a manager who says it all about a bad performance. For too long we have had weasel words from Managers about the players. Let hope he can solve the problem and the players will take him seriously. Saturdays form was an all time low. Despite having a season ticket I will stay at home on Tuesday. There is no way I am prepared to freeze in the Darwen End while overpaid footballers wonder about lost and bewildered and clueless. Charlton were fitter and faster and actually looked as if they cared about the result. Rovers were outclassed in every area all through the game. Rovers only tried for a five minutes after half time and then gave up again.
And as for Venky's! If they cannot stand to watch a full game why should we be expected to pay to see such rubbish?

Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only:

The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action.
At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury.
When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision.

Arte et labore

Seems that Appleton, like Berg, has already found the cupboard in the managers office containing Keans big book of excuses.

Angry From Accrington wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote: If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

Embarrassing,again so called supporters hitting the headlines for all the wrong reasons

Berg and. Kean were full of excuses. APpleton has already pointed out honestly the problem.At last a dose of realism. At least that's a start.

Oakdale blue wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote: If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

Embarrassing,again so called supporters hitting the headlines for all the wrong reasons

Would have been much funnier had it been a chicken leg.

Ryanb74 wrote:
If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Unfortunately the actions of a cheeky kid throwing a snowball at a pompous grownup are almost being interpreted as an act of war by the more reactionary elements on here.

Venky's have done a lot wrong but now seem to be trying to put things right by giving the control back to the manager and allowing a normal structure to be put inplace in order that we may compete with other clubs on a like to like basis. The fact that they all came to see for themselves the problems they have caused is good and they need to come more often. But the booing needs to stop NOW and give Appleton the chance he deserves. Throwing snowballs at Venky's on Saturday will achieve nothing Now they seem to be acting properly give them a chance to put things right as we will know in a few Months time. BRAG needs to disband as they are out of touch and their timing is way out and will cause more damage than good.

garydavies2304 wrote:
seems strange gary bower can win 2 and draw one but now ???? as for v
venkys they should have never come to that game .

Not that strange, no pressure on him. Bit like when Parkes used to take over- he never made it as a manager. Who knows if Bowyer would be a good manager, noticed his next game with reserves was a defeat.

I think we have some real egos playing for us! need a right good kick up the arse and a clear out!

Are you so sure Apple is in charge ? Of course he's not likely to say he's not, but do you really believe venkys have seen the light ? Where's Singh ?
Also, contrary to some opionion on here, I don't thinnk it's a good sign that a new manager goes public with criticism of players. By all means ball out the lazy overpaid underachievers in private, but telling the press is to please the Venkys and the fans.

The snow ball was wrong and we should be better than that whether a little kid or Little Ronnie who through it ??
Appleton has some of Kean's garbage to dispose of and reallity is 10 points to catch up to the play-off spot seems thin, hope he can sign someone with skill and passion

We need wins quickly or it's another season of trying to get out of this league

Angry From Accrington wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote: If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

very brave throwing snowballs at Mr and Mrs Desai and his daughter.

noddymcleod wrote:
Are you so sure Apple is in charge ? Of course he's not likely to say he's not, but do you really believe venkys have seen the light ? Where's Singh ? Also, contrary to some opionion on here, I don't thinnk it's a good sign that a new manager goes public with criticism of players. By all means ball out the lazy overpaid underachievers in private, but telling the press is to please the Venkys and the fans.

Singhs learnt and keeping a low profile. Looks like he has been sidelined and Shaw/Agnew running ths show.

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
Venky's have done a lot wrong but now seem to be trying to put things right by giving the control back to the manager and allowing a normal structure to be put inplace in order that we may compete with other clubs on a like to like basis. The fact that they all came to see for themselves the problems they have caused is good and they need to come more often. But the booing needs to stop NOW and give Appleton the chance he deserves. Throwing snowballs at Venky's on Saturday will achieve nothing Now they seem to be acting properly give them a chance to put things right as we will know in a few Months time. BRAG needs to disband as they are out of touch and their timing is way out and will cause more damage than good.

You probably wont see them for a long time after the snowball and abuse incident. They will probably withdraw or seriously consider throwing in the towel.

moh wrote:

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
Venky's have done a lot wrong but now seem to be trying to put things right by giving the control back to the manager and allowing a normal structure to be put inplace in order that we may compete with other clubs on a like to like basis. The fact that they all came to see for themselves the problems they have caused is good and they need to come more often. But the booing needs to stop NOW and give Appleton the chance he deserves. Throwing snowballs at Venky's on Saturday will achieve nothing Now they seem to be acting properly give them a chance to put things right as we will know in a few Months time. BRAG needs to disband as they are out of touch and their timing is way out and will cause more damage than good.

You probably wont see them for a long time after the snowball and abuse incident. They will probably withdraw or seriously consider throwing in the towel.

Wish they would - the supporters can only take so much **** from these people!!! The Venkys didnt have to be clairvoyant to understand that there would be protests against them after all the broken promises and the depths that they have taken the club to - yet they put a little girl in the firing line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ambition - they have none other than second rate employee's milking the club for every penny!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM!!!!

Rover_gem wrote:

Jansen_10 wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote:
If they wanted to give the crowd a lift then they should have shown the footage of mrs d's husband getting a snowball in the mush on the big screen. That certainly gave me a lift!

Strangely enough, I saw the footage too but rather than giving me a lift it made me feel a little ashamed. Isn't it odd how the same incident can have such a polarizing impression?

Agreed - was a complete embarrassment. I've got nothing against the protests, but the snowball incident lacked any common sense. There really are a minority of morons

Yep, me too. Just confirms the medi's view of us in my view. Idiotic.

I despise Venkys for the way they have treated the supporters but I was more disgusted by the shouts of "your f*cking sc*m " hurled at them upon their arrival rather than the snowball.

A bit of perspective please. A handful of chanters and one snowball - big wer!
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The guy can go home and not only say he has seen snow, but that he has even been hit by a snow - ball ! Yes! A ball made of snow ! The English throw them at each other for fun !
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Not exactly a grassy knoll moment was it?