Bowyer and McPhillips will remain in charge of Blackburn Rovers until the end of January (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Until the end of the January transfer window. Coincidence ?

Certain people to continue to make money out of either incoming or outgoing transfers without the 'prying eyes' of a new manager.
Just leave the club now Venkys - there is no excuse not to be able to make a decision on a new manager within 2 weeks. Unless you are trying to hide something.
VENKYS OUT

Another priceless decision by Venkys and Shebby. Appoint a manager when its too late for him to bring in his own signings.

Could it be as a result of a total lack of applicants now that Peter Taylor has worked out that he will lose his tax-free earnings from Bahrain.

So. What happened to the man who was to be appointed on New Years Day?If Venkys had no confidence in Shabbys pick for then, that would be the second time he's ballsed up that particular task. How many chances does the guy get?.......hope not as many as they gave Kean!

So. What happened to the man who was to be appointed on New Years Day?If Venkys had no confidence in Shabbys pick for then, that would be the second time he's ballsed up that particular task. How many chances does the guy get?.......hope not as many as they gave Kean!

Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

Is anybody really surprised?

Well after this fantastic news I'll go and buy three, well maybe four, perhaps five, sod it lets round it up to ten season tickets, for the next ten years, all paid in advance. Such is my confidence in the management.

This is more believable than anything that comes from Singh or anybody at the club these days.....

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Doomongers? I think its more without a manager who is going to make transfer decisions unless of course were not already finished buying players??? Bowyer wont get a look it edge ways, Shebby will sign more crap and who would want to come in to a 6 month contract without the ability to buy and sell players...No one!

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

All the above posts are accurate. No-one has criticised the two lads only the people above them. And as for being a doom monger,do you expect everybody to praise this bunch of shysters! I will criticise until they day they have all left.

I, for one, am delighted that Gary Bowyer has been given the chance. A sensible football man who loves the club. Anyhow, we only need a couple of players in.
If only we could get Robbie to tell Shebby to sling his hook then I'd be really happy!

Venkys have now wasted money paing Berg 3yrs wages for 57 days work, over a million to the incidious Kean and to owners who must squirm at the thought of paying people who are sacked or resign, it must seem enough is enough with spending. We could have bought two lower league players with the money they've paid to Berg and Kean. Wh they should be doing is sacking the the stooges for poor decision making.

AndyW wrote:
Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

here mate and at the very start of the statement "BLACKBURN Rovers have revealed that Gary Bowyer and Terry McPhillips will remain in charge of first team affairs until the end of January."

whi is .......Tony McMahon...??

if we need a good young defender who is tough and has ability then maybe you should consider Tony McMahon who is at Sheffield utd but ex Middbrg.

have a look...!!
I think we should go for him
hes a full back, strong and has scored goals

take a look and let us all know

And what happens then. Look's like no body wants to work in the circus

Ray Gunn wrote:
So scabby minge and the chicken farmers...who will be doing the signings and authorizing the departures?....will it be you flabby ding?...and how will you know who our new manager will need and who he wont need....this farcical gets worse....what they're say by this is that they WON'T be spending any money this window....More Bulls*it from India.
OK i can understand a short term contract with the incentive of if we get promoted a longer contract will be offered....but come on, our team is lacking in certain areas and we need to bolster those positions....what are we going to do WHEN Robbo goes? and where's the cash you said was going to be available for signings this month.
Gazza and Terry have done a good job but you (the chicken farmers) and Floppy ping have shown your intentions by letting Gazza and Terry manage the club until the END of January....oh! of course... that's when the window closes.....Venkys and Floppy ding OUT!

Did anyone think they were going to spend any money ? This is the fifth transfer window since they took over and they've spent **** all without SELLING first. Any one who thinks Venkys will spend on Rovers is sadly misguided IMO.

Yes, any new manager will be asking how much money to spend, wanting to strengthen the squad. However, Shebby made it clear yesterday that there will be no major transfer activity because the squad is strong enough. Moreover, if MB and his team do well, no need to replace the backroom staff.
Appointing after the transfer window closes means that demand can be kicked into the long grass until the summer. We are not stupid.

Here we go. Keep them in charge as no-one will take the supposed 6 month job/full time job except some no hoper, and also lets wait until end of Jan then we need to spend zero cash. Same old rubbish coming out of this club. Good luck to the people in charge I will still be going with season ticket but spending no more with Venky muppets so won't be there this Saturday and I fear this could be the lowest gate for many a year!!!

AndyW wrote:
Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

I think you need some reading glasses I have just read it on the Rovers Web Site.

AndyW wrote:
Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

I think you need some reading glasses I have just read it on the Rovers Web Site.

AndyW wrote:
Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

I think you need some reading glasses I have just read it on the Rovers Web Site.

AndyW wrote:
Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

I think you need some reading glasses I have just read it on the Rovers Web Site.

You really could not make this up if you tried. Venkys have made a succession of bad decisions for more than 2 years, due to a combination of ineptitude and greed within the club. What happens if we lose our next three games, will they sit it out, stubbornly awaiting for the 1 February, so that they can then appoint someone who will have no say on the playing staff situation until the summer?

Clearly the owners are intent on stripping out everything that they can get their greedy hand on. The only way to force them out is to cut off their income supply, by stop going to Ewood Park. All those people who continue to put their hard earned cash into the Venkys coffers will continue to endorse and support a regime that has been intent on harming the club from the first day.

No new players then Shebby get out Now.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

i agree mate this is the correct decision shebby said on radio lancs last night that there wont be any new players coming in anyway so why rush trying to get in a new manager for the transfer window?

Ray Gunn wrote:

AndyW wrote:
Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

here mate and at the very start of the statement "BLACKBURN Rovers have revealed that Gary Bowyer and Terry McPhillips will remain in charge of first team affairs until the end of January."

..which is Lt's words, not in the actual quotes...could just be poorreporting by LT again.
ps Can someone at LT get rid of the video etc which still says Rovers hoping to appoint a successor to Berg on day of Forest game.

LORD S
Couldnt write the script any better............Ma
cdonalds Burgers.... Kings Burgers.....Bowyers sausages ( Pig Farm far mor appropriate)
Honestly nobody wants this job really, perhaps Venkys are changing the core business to Pig farming, with more home bred options available. All we need now is Colonel Saunders to ride in from Bollewood. Even I am embarrassed by the actions of Happy Jacks successors.
Trust me , fighting for league survival with no money and winning is far better than pretending that you can make a silk purse out of a Sows ear.....oops back to Pig Farming again!!!!!!!!!!!
Long live Ginger Mourhinio!!!!!!!!!!

Rod! Shame on you for even thinking we might lose one match never mind three! Where's the optimism? Get behind Gary and Terry, at least they stopped the rot. Think positive three wins no defeats.

And the circus goes on you tossers. Still the laughing stock of the football world. You must be the most incompetent people ever to run a football club. They have got absolutely no interest in Blackbun Rovers. Things will get worse for us. Never will I go to Ewood whilst all these chicken duckers and the yid have long long gone.

Act in haste repent at leisure this appointment is one of the most important in recent history, Gary and Terry have taken 6pts out of 6. We must back them and the team to the hilt,Its a new name every day we need a proper lookaround and get the right person.
We dont want a money grabber or simply a "BIG" name we need the right one i hope they look properly not just the same tired old names.

cboyer wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote: Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters. Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others. I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window. Thanks Gary and Terry.

i agree mate this is the correct decision shebby said on radio lancs last night that there wont be any new players coming in anyway so why rush trying to get in a new manager for the transfer window?

looks like a certain person who has left the club is still influencing events at club through his buddies. Stop the in fighting in management and Venkys sort the situation in boardroom out. Someone has to go to stop in fighting and leaks.

AndyW wrote:
Have I missed something?

Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

stated on Rovers website. Cryer just summarising

Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Rod of the Rovers wrote:
You really could not make this up if you tried. Venkys have made a succession of bad decisions for more than 2 years, due to a combination of ineptitude and greed within the club. What happens if we lose our next three games, will they sit it out, stubbornly awaiting for the 1 February, so that they can then appoint someone who will have no say on the playing staff situation until the summer?

Clearly the owners are intent on stripping out everything that they can get their greedy hand on. The only way to force them out is to cut off their income supply, by stop going to Ewood Park. All those people who continue to put their hard earned cash into the Venkys coffers will continue to endorse and support a regime that has been intent on harming the club from the first day.

It was predictable......I think Berg was sacked so that they wouldn't need to give him any money for new players, and I thought that at the time given the timing of his sacking. ......He would have probably kicked up a stink so it was cheaper to pay him off. Anyone got any ideas about Venkys AMBITIONS for the club ?

Our club is an unbelievable farce. They just do not have any idea on how to run a club. Every week is full of contradictions… we need a change, we need someone in quickly, we need to get the right appointment and now they won’t make a decision until the end of January! That’s not a 6 month contract its three and a half months! Who in the right mind will work for these idiots? Shebby says he doesn’t interfere in the team and then blocks players from being included in the squad! Bowyer does seem to be doing ok but our recent wins have been against poor opponents, but we will take that. The risk being that if we do not get promotion this year we will be in a financial mess which we may never recover from, adding to this will be the exodus of any decent players we have in the squad, leaving us with a very poor team indeed and would be near impossible to rebuild and recover with the shambles of a setup that Venky’s have implemented. The fans will continue to diminish and stay away unless they start learning their lessons. We have had over two years of pain since they got rid of the quality directors and Big Sam and replaced them with a bunch of clueless idiots. The total lack of organisation within Rovers must be embarrassing to any decent Indian business people, you take good people out and replace them with people who do not know what they are doing, can’t agree among themselves and don’t have a plan. It’s not difficult to resolve, get the boardroom sorted one way or another, define the roles of the staff and stick to them, put in place a popular manager, one that the fans and players want, one with experience who knows how to get the best of the players, know tactically how to setup a team against varying opponents. Venky’s have been destroying this club for too long and the fans have had all the pain. I for one do not think they care.

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

Tatts wrote:
Another priceless decision by Venkys and Shebby. Appoint a manager when its too late for him to bring in his own signings.

Could it be as a result of a total lack of applicants now that Peter Taylor has worked out that he will lose his tax-free earnings from Bahrain.

It was worse than a total lack of applicants ... Phil Brown applied.

blazerafe wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Doomongers? I think its more without a manager who is going to make transfer decisions unless of course were not already finished buying players??? Bowyer wont get a look it edge ways, Shebby will sign more crap and who would want to come in to a 6 month contract without the ability to buy and sell players...No one!

Shebby said last night in his interview that there would be no more signings this January. We apparently have a large squad already and there is no need to bring anyone in.

Who in their right minds, believe anything that comes out of the mouths of the plonkers that are ( owning, running and absolutely ruining football in general )at BRFC.
Forthcoming decisions will not only knock the stuffing out of loyal supporters,but will just confirm that they cannot and will not be able to run a football club on any level.
The fact that any announcements that have been tabled,has had no positive or truth attached to them.
Please will your lot go back to basics and stick to chicken farming back home!!!!!!!!!! -----------WE ARE NOT PLEASED.............

Obviously planned so that Shebby can deal with the transfer window without interference from a manager. Then if Bowyer continues to win games he can be offered a cheap deal to stay on until the end of the season or he brings in a manager who cannot change the squad due to the transfer window closing.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter if we keep winning and a couple of decent transfers both in and out of the club are made but it is obvious why this option has been chosen.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Unlike your club, which wasn't good enough for Eddie Howe, Ouch

back to the footy.....111

I think most of us know which players we would like see move on at BRFC.

But who do we want in playing....!!

Ok, I think we should make recomendations to BRFC as we're football fans and we see or hear of players doing well. I'm sure we know a player or two out there in the Football league who in their opinion good be a good player for BRFC.

Lets start pointing out the players in the lower leagues who could be good signings for Rovers.

who is .......Tony McMahon...??

if we need a good young defender who is tough and has ability then maybe you should consider Tony McMahon who is at Sheffield utd but ex Middbrg.

have a look...!!
I think we should go for him
hes a full back, strong, tough and has scored goals

take a look and let us all know

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

And what happens when Bowyer starts to lose games, what happens when the teams we play are actually competent at playing football? what then, will you still stand by your common sense ideals. Its obvious that when early February comes round we will hire someone and Bowyer through all his rights or wrongs will be one again demoted. If your backing Bowyer then great, nobody wants to say a bad word about him. Dont think for a second that Venkys will treat him with any respect after the end of the transfer window.

Laughs by the bucket load for the football world followed by certain relegation.

No more than you fickle clowns deserve. Hahahahahaha

"Shebby Singhs, Shebby lies!"

Enough said.

I am fine about not employing a manager at the moment as there is no suitable candidates. What interests me is how well/bad Bowyer will do in the next few games. When a new guy comes in to manage a team that has been in poor form there is usually a few games grace where results pick up. After this period is up the team either kicks on, or goes back to losing games. I'm hoping that in our case it is the former. I think automatic promotion has gone, and so has the third, fourth and fifth playoff spots, but that last playoff spot I feel is still within reach and indeed should be the target.

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

Agreed, although what is happening off the pitch is still way off what is required of such a great club, at least its starting to happen on the pitch.
Maybe we have the squad capable already, only time will tell. At least the good ship ewood has started to plug the leaks, all we need now is to get rid of some water and see where the sails take us.

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

RR....."Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !" it's funny you should say that...because i remember people saying that to me when i was calling for Kean out at the start of his reign....i bet those people are eating their words now.....people are not Knocking the efforts made by Gazza and Co....but this is a cut throat league and you need stability going forward....and just say we loose the next three games thats three games closer to the end of the season, thats another nine points off the chasing pack....and will Bowyers end up getting the sack, if so we loose a great reserve team manager...it all stinks pal....

So temps in charge till after the window, which confirms Shabby is in charge of transfers, expect high earners out and more cut price assorted Portuguese no hopers in.
Another months salary on the manager's account saved. Does anyone realise the season ends in May ? Venkys will pay the four months salary from Feb to May - another saving.
My money is still on the temp duo continuing.

1952 rover wrote:

AndyW wrote: Have I missed something? Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

I think you need some reading glasses I have just read it on the Rovers Web Site.

and on sky sports breaking news. I despair of some rovers fans. Wont believe a summarised version in a report but believe the assumed intentions of a bunch of shysters. Reading about Bowyer this morning (and I have absolutely nothing against him and do not blame him and agree that the candidates mentioned are not good enough) its like going back 2 years. A repeat of the process that followed Sams sacking. Kean was given a game, fans said give him a chance, then it went to christmas then end of year and well you know the rest. It all ended in tears, banners, protests and chickens on the pitch. Two words - money saving. It would be wonderful to think that Venkys had made that decision for the reasons a lot of you believe but if we havent all learned by now that they do not make decisions based on whats best for the club, there is no hope for us.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Hey and guess what Claret - even with all that the Dingles still can't beat us!

I suppose you're right, we have been in decline since 1995. When you win the league then anything less than that represents decline.
Meanwhile the mighty Clarets are sweeping away all before them with Dick Van Dyke at the helm.

LT take the out of date videos off this site!!!

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....
i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

The Negative "Team" are busy today...bit worried because we have won a couple. worried that we might start to have some success?
Now that would never do would it...Stop pretending to be Rovers Fans, if you want to slag us off at least have the cojones to do it inder your true colours (Claret n Blue)
Anyway to the odd Real Rovers fan on here I say that Venkys/Singh are getting it right currently but more by accident than design but hell, I will take that over the alternatives...
Clearly GB can and has got the team firing, why HB could not is open to plenty of theories but we are much improved so if it is working why change. There was never going to be any money this window as we have a good enough squad in the main to win this league. One midfield ball winner and a centre half are all we are short of, so maybe the loan system will help there but in all honesty we can do it anyway.
Forest were being touted as dark horese for the top spots then they got AM. Be honest we wiped the floor with them second half. The rest of this league is no better and mainly worse.
Form is our let down more than individual players and now GB is in charge the players are happy.
We have signed King and Best will be back this month (another reason why Venkys would not have spent again as they have had no value out of his fee yet)
Money is not the answer, we do not want to go bust so stop talking like we are rich.. we aint, end of.
Yeah our Dingle friends want us to go bust, hence the snidy boycott mails on here today. Dont fall for that.
Oh and dont bother with the I have been a Rover for 90 years boll-ox either
I can genuinely out shout anyone on that score but it is true(r) in my case
Yep Venkys have finally got it right by default, we need to be saving money for the Summer window if we manage to get back up.
This squad and GB can do it in spite of our silly owners
Only my opinion of course!

McRover wrote:
Until the end of the January transfer window. Coincidence ?

Shebby already announced that there would be no more transfer activity so the whole conspiracy theory of behind doors conspiring to avoid transfers is a waste - as usual.

Try dealing with the facts people ffs!

Have I missed something here? I thought that last night Singh said there was a 6 month deal for an experienced manager to come in? So if he takes over on 1st Feb then a 6 month deal will take him until August. Of course that makes perfect sense.

I was just about coming round to the idea of a 6 month manager after last night's performance on the radio. Might have been a good idea to keep it short term rather than squander a fortune on another Berg style appointment. Now I've got the feeling that the intention from the word go was to have a 'temporary' arrangement throughout January so that Singh could involve himself in transfer activity without resistance. Peculiar how Berg was ditched before the window opened and a new manager won't be here until it has shut.

A win or two from the next 4 games and it will be Bowyer's job. Cannot believe that the club are suggesting that they take 5 weeks to appoint a manager on a 6 month contract! They must think we are stupid.

Just for a moment at the end of the game against Forest I was happy with things. A comfortable win, good goals, 6 points from 2 games, healthier crowd at Ewood and the chance of bringing in a manager to push us on over the rest of the season. Well done Venky's, you've done it again and spoiled things.

BRFC get a mention at www.newsthump.com !!! we are famous !!! http://newsthump.com
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merlinrabbit wrote:

1952 rover wrote:

AndyW wrote: Have I missed something? Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

I think you need some reading glasses I have just read it on the Rovers Web Site.

and on sky sports breaking news. I despair of some rovers fans. Wont believe a summarised version in a report but believe the assumed intentions of a bunch of shysters. Reading about Bowyer this morning (and I have absolutely nothing against him and do not blame him and agree that the candidates mentioned are not good enough) its like going back 2 years. A repeat of the process that followed Sams sacking. Kean was given a game, fans said give him a chance, then it went to christmas then end of year and well you know the rest. It all ended in tears, banners, protests and chickens on the pitch. Two words - money saving. It would be wonderful to think that Venkys had made that decision for the reasons a lot of you believe but if we havent all learned by now that they do not make decisions based on whats best for the club, there is no hope for us.

Bit of a difference there though mate, Bowyer has a track record of success at every level he has operated at. whereas when big Sam left and the first team coach went with him, Kean, who was first team cone placer at the time was promoted having no track record of success at any level. He could hand out a mean High Vis bibb and looked awsome at placing the tyres though.
So your comparison really isn't apples and apples its apples and doughnuts.
If Bowyer did lose the next three games it would only speed up the process of finding a new manager, if he wins the next three would you be bothered?

stefjam wrote:
BRFC get a mention at www.newsthump.com !!! we are famous !!! http://newsthump.com

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Wednesday 2 January 2013 by Spacey 2013 already shet story

The current bunch of clowns running BRFC used to be indecisive but they aren't too sure now. Venkys and Shebby P**s off before you sink our club altogether.

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....

i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

So the club has admitted that it does not have sufficient confidence in the judgement of it's executives to allow them to offer a contract of over 6 months. I take this as a positive sign that they are learning their lessons and are aware of their limitations but why is this statement coming from Shebby the Snake? Surely this should be coming from Shaw.
Also I hope they will introduce a six month Season Ticket from the start of next season so the fans can reward success or failure by renewing or walking away! Assuming there are any Season Ticket holders left of course!
So the club has admitted that it does not have sufficient confidence in the judgement of it's executives to allow them to offer a contract of over 6 months. I take this as a positive sign that they are learning their lessons and are aware of their limitations but why is this statement coming from Shebby the Snake? Surely this should be coming from Shaw. Also I hope they will introduce a six month Season Ticket from the start of next season so the fans can reward success or failure by renewing or walking away! Assuming there are any Season Ticket holders left of course! Angry From Accrington

burnleyglentoran wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....


i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

BRFC ......Unbeaten and Top dogs for 34yrs ......And we're still laughing.

So we will have no proper manager now until the transfer window closes.

Could AC please ask Shebby this question -
who makes the decisons to buy and sell players during January - is it Bowyer, Shebby or will no-one at Ewood have the authority?

If he dosn't answer then please ask the same question to Mesrs Shaw and Agnew.

All 3 were supposedly employed by Venkys to improve communications with the fans.

There are a lot of players that need 'moving on' and if they remain at the club they will continue to have an unsettling effect.

He has done a fantastic job so far but what happens if Bowyer loses a few games?

As usual it is a total shambles.

You couldn't make it up - it's a nightmare.

looking at this sensibly, what options have the Venkys got , we are the laffing sotck of football ( Sky Sports news presenters grinning last week) they have sacked Big Sam , appoitnted Kean sacked him , appointed Berg sacked him ,,ermm who s goin come now that Taylor out the frame , if i were Venkys id treat Bowyer Like Royality he s getting results, will save us from relegation again and the last lad to have a go - then its closed

blazerafe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

And what happens when Bowyer starts to lose games, what happens when the teams we play are actually competent at playing football? what then, will you still stand by your common sense ideals. Its obvious that when early February comes round we will hire someone and Bowyer through all his rights or wrongs will be one again demoted. If your backing Bowyer then great, nobody wants to say a bad word about him. Dont think for a second that Venkys will treat him with any respect after the end of the transfer window.

When Bowyer begins to lose games, as you put it - then the boo boys will be out in force again. It is facking simple - Why ? Because I know what Blackburn fans can be like seeing as I've followed, lived and breathed this facking place for nigh on 50 years following this club for 40 of them consistently.

I will stand by my comments everyday of the week, and even discuss with one and all over them. I quite clearly state the 'wisdom of some' toward this current situation our club finds itself in nor do I profess to have the answers as most other posters do not either, but what I will say is this - the self perpetuating actions of some of our clubs supporters are doing untold damage to the club. Never mind that Venky and Co are the main culprits in this - allegedly - no other will damage the club more than US the supporter with this continued protest of what is deemed to be best for it ?

We as supporters are never going to have our our way that is a simple fact, and this is highlighted by the 10,000 that have chosen to stay away because they cannot have their own way. Proof enough I would surmise ?

Supporting your club takes balls, belief, dedication regardless of the situation. I didn't here folk bleeting at the Bill Fox era for instance when things were bleak - Why ? Because we knew our station, but always believing.

Venky have made a sows ear out of buying our club and i have vented my spleen often enough, but never have I turned on my club as some supporters are quite clearly doing whether through a conscience state or an ignorance ?

Blackburn Rovers Football Club loses games even under the greatest of managers, Bowyer will be no different the salvation from this is that Bowyer is a winner quite clearly proven up to date, and that is good enough added to a very important stability that could very well put our club back on a level footing for the future that WE all crave. It is about time US Rovers supporters begin the process of thought toward that instead of maligning the club with their own vision for the hatred of Venky.

Their is only one loser in all of this: Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

I won't turn on my club and should I see a glint of light that I see as worth supporting I will do that without booing or venting my spleen at the current situation. Why ? Because I am Blackburn through and through. Bowyer and Co have shown me he understands the situation just as Berg(unfortunately he lost his job) did and shat in the face of adversity just as I will for our club no matter what the circumstances. If we the supporter don't remain loyal shouting from the rooftops that things are improving then we can all go home and let this projected episode become what a lot of supporters believe it is ?

I know Blackburn supporters from the road sweeper to the chattering class in the Walker stand, and we can bemoan like no other regards this football club, but if we want a football club worth supporting then the supporter had better make stark choices and grow some facking balls and cease bleeting at these owners. They will succeed or fail all on their own ?

The bottom line is 'where was you when the shat hit the fan ?

I was out on the terraces supporting the B&W shirt followed by the crest that will be adorned for time infinite, but not if the Venky antagonists have their way.

I know of one person who is making inroads with dialogue towards finding a settlement that besieges our club, and from his previous dealings with the club he came out a winner followed by every single person that walks onto Ewood Park.

I rest my case.

Regards

Arte et labore

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Seconded.

Hopefully whoever is doing it we will get rid of the whingers, whiners and moaners inside the club, especially on the playing staff.

I'm not a lover of Venky's or Shebby, I haven't a clue what Shaw and Agnew are doing.

But the Doomongers (excellent word) are no better, they delight in dragging the club down, I get the distinct impression they would have preferred Rovers to loose the last two matches just to prove themselves right.

"Fans", many of whom don't bother to go anymore wanting the team they used to support to loose, not good is it?

Bowyer and his team are showing that they have something about them, they are not going to do any worse than the previous incumbents, despite Shebby, Venky's, Shaw, Agnew and the Doomongers, so why not give them a chance.

Who knows, we may just win a couple more games.

Have to agree that not letting a new manager sign any players at all is going to make the short list very short indeed. bObvious to me that venkys are cutting their lossies and have no real belief in premier league football. They have blown it, end of.

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Thank god to read a bit of common sense for a change cheers mate

What an absolute crying shame for this once proud football club which yet again is continuing to prove to be the laughing stock of the football world.

Pity Wanderin' Walter has just gone to play for the big team in the sky he would have been superb manager as their manager especia;lly with him having had 10 times more football experience than the undisputed manager/dictator/oli
garch/supreme being that he thinks he is; of course I am referring to Herr Klownmeister Shebby

It's a good job the fans didn't have this forum when Tony Parkes ( Mr BRFC) took over each time from sacked or resigned managers. He would have been hounded out. Let's just give Gary and Terry a chance. You never know by the end of the month we could be well up the division and they may just have saved us as Tony Parkes once or twice or even more did.

I suppose this decision is made to give the owners the time either to Finish their negotiations to finally tempt Pep Guardiola back from his 1 year holiday or to complet the agreement on how much they pay Real Madrid in compansation for when they appoint Mourinho.

I mean let's face it what fantastic ambition the Venkys are showing Pep as manager and Mourinho as assistant. Can't help but admire them

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

blazerafe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

And what happens when Bowyer starts to lose games, what happens when the teams we play are actually competent at playing football? what then, will you still stand by your common sense ideals. Its obvious that when early February comes round we will hire someone and Bowyer through all his rights or wrongs will be one again demoted. If your backing Bowyer then great, nobody wants to say a bad word about him. Dont think for a second that Venkys will treat him with any respect after the end of the transfer window.

When Bowyer begins to lose games, as you put it - then the boo boys will be out in force again. It is facking simple - Why ? Because I know what Blackburn fans can be like seeing as I've followed, lived and breathed this facking place for nigh on 50 years following this club for 40 of them consistently.

I will stand by my comments everyday of the week, and even discuss with one and all over them. I quite clearly state the 'wisdom of some' toward this current situation our club finds itself in nor do I profess to have the answers as most other posters do not either, but what I will say is this - the self perpetuating actions of some of our clubs supporters are doing untold damage to the club. Never mind that Venky and Co are the main culprits in this - allegedly - no other will damage the club more than US the supporter with this continued protest of what is deemed to be best for it ?

We as supporters are never going to have our our way that is a simple fact, and this is highlighted by the 10,000 that have chosen to stay away because they cannot have their own way. Proof enough I would surmise ?

Supporting your club takes balls, belief, dedication regardless of the situation. I didn't here folk bleeting at the Bill Fox era for instance when things were bleak - Why ? Because we knew our station, but always believing.

Venky have made a sows ear out of buying our club and i have vented my spleen often enough, but never have I turned on my club as some supporters are quite clearly doing whether through a conscience state or an ignorance ?

Blackburn Rovers Football Club loses games even under the greatest of managers, Bowyer will be no different the salvation from this is that Bowyer is a winner quite clearly proven up to date, and that is good enough added to a very important stability that could very well put our club back on a level footing for the future that WE all crave. It is about time US Rovers supporters begin the process of thought toward that instead of maligning the club with their own vision for the hatred of Venky.

Their is only one loser in all of this: Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

I won't turn on my club and should I see a glint of light that I see as worth supporting I will do that without booing or venting my spleen at the current situation. Why ? Because I am Blackburn through and through. Bowyer and Co have shown me he understands the situation just as Berg(unfortunately he lost his job) did and shat in the face of adversity just as I will for our club no matter what the circumstances. If we the supporter don't remain loyal shouting from the rooftops that things are improving then we can all go home and let this projected episode become what a lot of supporters believe it is ?

I know Blackburn supporters from the road sweeper to the chattering class in the Walker stand, and we can bemoan like no other regards this football club, but if we want a football club worth supporting then the supporter had better make stark choices and grow some facking balls and cease bleeting at these owners. They will succeed or fail all on their own ?

The bottom line is 'where was you when the shat hit the fan ?

I was out on the terraces supporting the B&W shirt followed by the crest that will be adorned for time infinite, but not if the Venky antagonists have their way.

I know of one person who is making inroads with dialogue towards finding a settlement that besieges our club, and from his previous dealings with the club he came out a winner followed by every single person that walks onto Ewood Park.

I rest my case.

Regards

Arte et labore

I'm with you on this RR. Time to move on and look forward..

bigste wrote:
Have to agree that not letting a new manager sign any players at all is going to make the short list very short indeed. bObvious to me that venkys are cutting their lossies and have no real belief in premier league football. They have blown it, end of.

The PL is the Golden Goose, just by getting promoted and relegated clubs pick up in the region of £50 million plus parachute payments, just for one season.

That would offset any losses.

Venky's, like them or not, and I don't like them one single iota, are not the idiots continually portrayed on here, they are multi millionaires looking to promote and expand their brand.

The only way to do that is in the PL.

How many people who completely deride and insult them on here are self made multi millionaires?

The problem is that Venky's come from a totally different culture and most certainly don't understand our culture any better than we understand theirs.

They don't, or didn't understand our passion for Rovers, that must have come as an incredible shock to them, especially when things started going wrong.

They won't react favourably to the bile and insults because they are not used to being questioned or threatened, so they will withdraw deeper, become even more insular.

But they won't give up because to do so would mean a huge loss of face, something their culture simply will not allow. That is almost certainly why it took so long to get rid of Kean, because he was appointed by them..

They didn't personally appoint Berg so sacking him wasn't a problem.

Know and understand your enemy, it's the only way to beat them.

blueblooded wrote:

McRover wrote:
Until the end of the January transfer window. Coincidence ?

Shebby already announced that there would be no more transfer activity so the whole conspiracy theory of behind doors conspiring to avoid transfers is a waste - as usual.

Try dealing with the facts people ffs!

Oh and of course Shebby always tells the truth doesn't he? ..... ffs.

blueblooded wrote:

McRover wrote:
Until the end of the January transfer window. Coincidence ?

Shebby already announced that there would be no more transfer activity so the whole conspiracy theory of behind doors conspiring to avoid transfers is a waste - as usual.

Try dealing with the facts people ffs!

Oh and of course Shebby always tells the truth doesn't he? ..... ffs.

does this mean he will be given any money to spend in the transfer window? anyone help?

Ray Gunn wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

RR....."Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !" it's funny you should say that...because i remember people saying that to me when i was calling for Kean out at the start of his reign....i bet those people are eating their words now.....people are not Knocking the efforts made by Gazza and Co....but this is a cut throat league and you need stability going forward....and just say we loose the next three games thats three games closer to the end of the season, thats another nine points off the chasing pack....and will Bowyers end up getting the sack, if so we loose a great reserve team manager...it all stinks pal....

Happy New Year Ray Gunn, 8 ball Deluxe......

Stability is growing in my estimation now that Bowyer and Co are in place. The defining factor in this is if Bowyer can deal with the pressure that will come ? I believe he will for why would he change what is not broken ? We, as supporters can help him, along with the team, by unstinting support which in turn will slowly but surely have positive results right the way through the club. Whilst all of the politics goes on behind closed doors Bowyer and Co attempt the most important factor here - the team, and at this time all is going well. I believe their will be a blip, but not that which you point out regards Bowyer. Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm prepared to stick my neck out for what it's worth, and believe that Bowyer will not succumb to the nasty going on down at the good ship Ewood ?

For 90 minutes at this stage of BRFC's history we should hold back from haranguing all that besets our club, although that said, I doubt that will be the case ?

The good folk's who support this club really need to widen their scope of just what it is to support a club ? I believe a section of Rovers supporters have only a fear and loathing for our club which represents or manifests itself thus forth and to date ? Being positive seems to be a poisoned chalice and decrying seems to be the easiest way out so as not to look a fool ? We are all fools as regards supporting football once we accept that then on we go, in my opinion ?

The club is what I support regardless of the situation. For me that is what a football supporter does and accepts that we are going to get it in the backside from time to time. We are not immune to the perils of live as our history as shown in 138 years, but we march on (still downing the our bitter rivals Bunley) !!!!!!

I am watching closely the events as most profess to do on pages such as these, but like Bowyer and Co I ain't interested in what is the projected crisis down at Ewood because I want to prepare for better times and shat in the face of it all for the most important element in all of this: Blackburn Rovers Football Club and the team that represents it followed by it's supporter.

I want change and I will do all I can as a long time supporter of this club with positive thinking even with all this supposed blithe blowing around the place.

like many I have been taken to the cleaners with this shambles over the past 2 years, but the candle still burns bright for this football club and no-one will take that away regardless of the circumstances alas i cannot say that of some fellow supporters !

Just a thought ?

Regards all.

Arte et labore

With our current squad we were always going to beat Barnsley away and with Forest employing the negative Big Eck and our tails up our chances of beating Forest were at home were 50-50 which fortunately we did.
What we then needed was a good managerial appointment to come in a sort out our squad and strengthen in area's we need.
The current caretaker manager has done a good job but I'm not getting carried away.
It's a long season and with no "boss" in charge of this transfer window we may see some crazy Shebby signings or more worrying departures to more valued assets.

With our current squad we were always going to beat Barnsley away and with Forest employing the negative Big Eck and our tails up our chances of beating Forest were at home were 50-50 which fortunately we did.
What we then needed was a good managerial appointment to come in a sort out our squad and strengthen in area's we need.
The current caretaker manager has done a good job but I'm not getting carried away.
It's a long season and with no "boss" in charge of this transfer window we may see some crazy Shebby signings or more worrying departures to more valued assets.

Are there people on here who think the Rovers squad doesn't need strengthening in the transfer window? Get real! I'm not complaining about Bowyer being given a chance, but give him a REAL chance and allow him to go into the market and strengthen the squad where he feels he needs to.

I like GB. Congrats! Keep playing the better players please!

owd nick wrote:

bigste wrote:
Have to agree that not letting a new manager sign any players at all is going to make the short list very short indeed. bObvious to me that venkys are cutting their lossies and have no real belief in premier league football. They have blown it, end of.

The PL is the Golden Goose, just by getting promoted and relegated clubs pick up in the region of £50 million plus parachute payments, just for one season.

That would offset any losses.

Venky's, like them or not, and I don't like them one single iota, are not the idiots continually portrayed on here, they are multi millionaires looking to promote and expand their brand.

The only way to do that is in the PL.

How many people who completely deride and insult them on here are self made multi millionaires?

The problem is that Venky's come from a totally different culture and most certainly don't understand our culture any better than we understand theirs.

They don't, or didn't understand our passion for Rovers, that must have come as an incredible shock to them, especially when things started going wrong.

They won't react favourably to the bile and insults because they are not used to being questioned or threatened, so they will withdraw deeper, become even more insular.

But they won't give up because to do so would mean a huge loss of face, something their culture simply will not allow. That is almost certainly why it took so long to get rid of Kean, because he was appointed by them..

They didn't personally appoint Berg so sacking him wasn't a problem.

Know and understand your enemy, it's the only way to beat them.

Spoken like a true and realistic gent Mr Owd Nick.

Arte et labore

1952 rover wrote:
No new players then Shebby get out Now.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There'll be another boat load of Portuguese rejects with their astronomical agent's fees

R Gunn replies to wha he wants to read/see not what what is happening .....
bile like his is available every week at Bollewood from all those that remain on fantasy island. Bowyers been put in charge because all he will have left in the team is reserves, and he is definitely the man for the job.
34 years and still laughing I dont see much laughing just a bunch of so called supporters with their fingers up ther arses hoping they dont get plucked next.
Somebody has just written PL is the Golden Goose.....Venkys business plan is getting to you all. Mr Gunn meet me at any time youll recognise me by the six fingers being wrapped round a pack PAXO.....
Ginger Mourhinio reigns King Of East Lancs

I guess appointing Bowyer & McPhillips for the time being is an admission that they could have promoted from within in the first place and therefore saved the £1 million plus that they wasted on Berg.

It was obvious from the very start that Shebby was sent to increase the dwindling numbers and therefore increase revenue for the owners. He tried to say the right thing at the Blakeys meeting and was cheered when he said he oould sack Kean if he lost 3 games in a row and emphasised that he had the authority to do so.

These comments backfired on him and the owners, as this is the biggest reason Kean got paid out without the need to go to court. So far that was £1.2 million add to that the mistake Singh admitted he made appointing Berg £1 Million and Singhs own wages of £400,000 per year. Thats a grand total of £2.6 million that Singh has wasted so far.

If you consider a season ticket to cost £300 then he would need to bring in just sort of 9,000 extra fans to cover his cost. All in all with the ridicule Singh has brought on the club, the mistakes he has admitted to making and his overall Tomfoolery, he has proven to be one of the biggest mistakes in the history of BRFC.

I think the time is right for him to admit he is a clown and beg and plead for his job back as a pundit. He wasn't great at that, but at least he did less damage!

Any other time of the year this might be sensible but in the transfer window !! Also, they talk about bringing someone in with short term targets but surely anyone accepting that kind of deal would also require the opportunity to sort out the squad and bring in some of their own players - wouldn't they!

To do this when the squad needs strengthening is ridiculous but I think the number of interested candidates on 1 February is going to be very different than those on 3 January.

Andy - can you do some reporting and see if you can get us an answer on the logic here ?

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

blazerafe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote: Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters. Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others. I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window. Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails. Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake ! Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now. Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ? The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these. I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ? Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against. This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ? Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ? I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ? Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ? Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation. I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity. Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not. Just a thought folk's ? Arte et labore

And what happens when Bowyer starts to lose games, what happens when the teams we play are actually competent at playing football? what then, will you still stand by your common sense ideals. Its obvious that when early February comes round we will hire someone and Bowyer through all his rights or wrongs will be one again demoted. If your backing Bowyer then great, nobody wants to say a bad word about him. Dont think for a second that Venkys will treat him with any respect after the end of the transfer window.

When Bowyer begins to lose games, as you put it - then the boo boys will be out in force again. It is facking simple - Why ? Because I know what Blackburn fans can be like seeing as I've followed, lived and breathed this facking place for nigh on 50 years following this club for 40 of them consistently. I will stand by my comments everyday of the week, and even discuss with one and all over them. I quite clearly state the 'wisdom of some' toward this current situation our club finds itself in nor do I profess to have the answers as most other posters do not either, but what I will say is this - the self perpetuating actions of some of our clubs supporters are doing untold damage to the club. Never mind that Venky and Co are the main culprits in this - allegedly - no other will damage the club more than US the supporter with this continued protest of what is deemed to be best for it ? We as supporters are never going to have our our way that is a simple fact, and this is highlighted by the 10,000 that have chosen to stay away because they cannot have their own way. Proof enough I would surmise ? Supporting your club takes balls, belief, dedication regardless of the situation. I didn't here folk bleeting at the Bill Fox era for instance when things were bleak - Why ? Because we knew our station, but always believing. Venky have made a sows ear out of buying our club and i have vented my spleen often enough, but never have I turned on my club as some supporters are quite clearly doing whether through a conscience state or an ignorance ? Blackburn Rovers Football Club loses games even under the greatest of managers, Bowyer will be no different the salvation from this is that Bowyer is a winner quite clearly proven up to date, and that is good enough added to a very important stability that could very well put our club back on a level footing for the future that WE all crave. It is about time US Rovers supporters begin the process of thought toward that instead of maligning the club with their own vision for the hatred of Venky. Their is only one loser in all of this: Blackburn Rovers Football Club. I won't turn on my club and should I see a glint of light that I see as worth supporting I will do that without booing or venting my spleen at the current situation. Why ? Because I am Blackburn through and through. Bowyer and Co have shown me he understands the situation just as Berg(unfortunately he lost his job) did and shat in the face of adversity just as I will for our club no matter what the circumstances. If we the supporter don't remain loyal shouting from the rooftops that things are improving then we can all go home and let this projected episode become what a lot of supporters believe it is ? I know Blackburn supporters from the road sweeper to the chattering class in the Walker stand, and we can bemoan like no other regards this football club, but if we want a football club worth supporting then the supporter had better make stark choices and grow some facking balls and cease bleeting at these owners. They will succeed or fail all on their own ? The bottom line is 'where was you when the shat hit the fan ? I was out on the terraces supporting the B&W shirt followed by the crest that will be adorned for time infinite, but not if the Venky antagonists have their way. I know of one person who is making inroads with dialogue towards finding a settlement that besieges our club, and from his previous dealings with the club he came out a winner followed by every single person that walks onto Ewood Park. I rest my case. Regards Arte et labore

Well said, it's about time the moaning stopped and support started. Venky's own the club whether we like it or not, and at this point in time without them we would be fccked. So support the team, support the manager and support the current owners and advisor Shebby (who has proved 100% better than the last advisor). Get back to Ewood and drive the team onward and upwards. Let's be positive in 2013 and all pull together!

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

blazerafe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

And what happens when Bowyer starts to lose games, what happens when the teams we play are actually competent at playing football? what then, will you still stand by your common sense ideals. Its obvious that when early February comes round we will hire someone and Bowyer through all his rights or wrongs will be one again demoted. If your backing Bowyer then great, nobody wants to say a bad word about him. Dont think for a second that Venkys will treat him with any respect after the end of the transfer window.

When Bowyer begins to lose games, as you put it - then the boo boys will be out in force again. It is facking simple - Why ? Because I know what Blackburn fans can be like seeing as I've followed, lived and breathed this facking place for nigh on 50 years following this club for 40 of them consistently.

I will stand by my comments everyday of the week, and even discuss with one and all over them. I quite clearly state the 'wisdom of some' toward this current situation our club finds itself in nor do I profess to have the answers as most other posters do not either, but what I will say is this - the self perpetuating actions of some of our clubs supporters are doing untold damage to the club. Never mind that Venky and Co are the main culprits in this - allegedly - no other will damage the club more than US the supporter with this continued protest of what is deemed to be best for it ?

We as supporters are never going to have our our way that is a simple fact, and this is highlighted by the 10,000 that have chosen to stay away because they cannot have their own way. Proof enough I would surmise ?

Supporting your club takes balls, belief, dedication regardless of the situation. I didn't here folk bleeting at the Bill Fox era for instance when things were bleak - Why ? Because we knew our station, but always believing.

Venky have made a sows ear out of buying our club and i have vented my spleen often enough, but never have I turned on my club as some supporters are quite clearly doing whether through a conscience state or an ignorance ?

Blackburn Rovers Football Club loses games even under the greatest of managers, Bowyer will be no different the salvation from this is that Bowyer is a winner quite clearly proven up to date, and that is good enough added to a very important stability that could very well put our club back on a level footing for the future that WE all crave. It is about time US Rovers supporters begin the process of thought toward that instead of maligning the club with their own vision for the hatred of Venky.

Their is only one loser in all of this: Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

I won't turn on my club and should I see a glint of light that I see as worth supporting I will do that without booing or venting my spleen at the current situation. Why ? Because I am Blackburn through and through. Bowyer and Co have shown me he understands the situation just as Berg(unfortunately he lost his job) did and shat in the face of adversity just as I will for our club no matter what the circumstances. If we the supporter don't remain loyal shouting from the rooftops that things are improving then we can all go home and let this projected episode become what a lot of supporters believe it is ?

I know Blackburn supporters from the road sweeper to the chattering class in the Walker stand, and we can bemoan like no other regards this football club, but if we want a football club worth supporting then the supporter had better make stark choices and grow some facking balls and cease bleeting at these owners. They will succeed or fail all on their own ?

The bottom line is 'where was you when the shat hit the fan ?

I was out on the terraces supporting the B&W shirt followed by the crest that will be adorned for time infinite, but not if the Venky antagonists have their way.

I know of one person who is making inroads with dialogue towards finding a settlement that besieges our club, and from his previous dealings with the club he came out a winner followed by every single person that walks onto Ewood Park.

I rest my case.

Regards

Arte et labore

Berg was sacked after 57 games after just 1 win against Peterborough who at the time were rock bottom - Bowyer won against Barnsley who were rock bottom and the Forest side that was fielded was not the same squad that had been winning matches, Rochina's goal was an absolute fluke and our other two due to poor defending and a lucky shot from Kaz. Yet as they say a goal is a goal and 3 points is 3 points which is great, however if we came across a team like Palace again and how they performed in our last game, Bowyer or not/Team spirit or not we are simply not good enough. I like Bowyer and if he has changed the team then its about time, all i was saying is that after this torrid few years i do not foresee this being as open and closed as that. I also believe that when he does start to lose games his head will be on the line just like the rest of them reserve manager or not. As for the **** hitting the fan comment, your not alone in where you were - thousands of us were and continue to be there as well. I just dont want to see what happened to Portsmouth happen to my club because of incompetent owners.

I believe that Gary Bowyer should be given a go to be fair and given what Singh said last night, I think it would be a problem getting anyone in for six months to see how he goes.

I really hope Bowyer does cut the mustard, but one man worth taking a punt on, if he doesn't would be Mickey Melon.

He got sacked from Fleetwood, despiet getting them 3 promotions in 4 seasons and I believe he was sacked dut to a fall out with the owner of the club, Andy Pilley. The fall out was over him not being allowed to talk to Blackpool over their vacancy.

I not saying he would be ideal, but if anyone is likely to accept a temporary contract and have a chance of success, he could be the one.

George.White.Bread wrote:
Laughs by the bucket load for the football world followed by certain relegation.

No more than you fickle clowns deserve. Hahahahahaha

Get back in bed child and stop playing with that you will go blind. DINGLE.

Complete sense......! well said too. We are all well aware of Venky's management frailties but without ther investment ( yes..there has been!) we'll probably be languishing in an even lower division in a few years time!

burnleyglentoran wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....


i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

Yep so good, your manager wanted to go down a division! But then again who can blame him, we're a joke at the moment so what does that you? Obsessed with rovers, not won anything in recent history, about to sell Austin, you're in debt, you're in Yorkshire, you smash up your own town, your ground is a dump, gawthorpe is a dump, you're nothing and that's why you stalk the rovers pages you all time loser!

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

You've been obsessed for quite a while I see glentoran. The last 3 decades must've been so very painful.

Bless you, you sad sad person.

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....



i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

Yep so good, your manager wanted to go down a division! But then again who can blame him, we're a joke at the moment so what does that you? Obsessed with rovers, not won anything in recent history, about to sell Austin, you're in debt, you're in Yorkshire, you smash up your own town, your ground is a dump, gawthorpe is a dump, you're nothing and that's why you stalk the rovers pages you all time loser!

Don't hold back Ronnie, give him
BOTH barrels next time.!!

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....



i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

Yep so good, your manager wanted to go down a division! But then again who can blame him, we're a joke at the moment so what does that you? Obsessed with rovers, not won anything in recent history, about to sell Austin, you're in debt, you're in Yorkshire, you smash up your own town, your ground is a dump, gawthorpe is a dump, you're nothing and that's why you stalk the rovers pages you all time loser!

There's another trophy dingles can present themselves with:

The "Kevin Gallacher said Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" trophy

desperate oddballs and not even embarrassed by their infatuation

jack01 wrote:
Have I missed something here? I thought that last night Singh said there was a 6 month deal for an experienced manager to come in? So if he takes over on 1st Feb then a 6 month deal will take him until August. Of course that makes perfect sense.

I was just about coming round to the idea of a 6 month manager after last night's performance on the radio. Might have been a good idea to keep it short term rather than squander a fortune on another Berg style appointment. Now I've got the feeling that the intention from the word go was to have a 'temporary' arrangement throughout January so that Singh could involve himself in transfer activity without resistance. Peculiar how Berg was ditched before the window opened and a new manager won't be here until it has shut.

A win or two from the next 4 games and it will be Bowyer's job. Cannot believe that the club are suggesting that they take 5 weeks to appoint a manager on a 6 month contract! They must think we are stupid.

Just for a moment at the end of the game against Forest I was happy with things. A comfortable win, good goals, 6 points from 2 games, healthier crowd at Ewood and the chance of bringing in a manager to push us on over the rest of the season. Well done Venky's, you've done it again and spoiled things.

Don't agree that they spoiled things again on this - they have made a decent 'short term' decision and have given themselves some breathing space to look for the right managerial appointment. Full marks to Gary Bowyer for what he has done already and of course for agreeing to do this important temporary role. Who knows what the end of the month will bring as predicting what this lot will do almost impossible. I would actually prefer that we do NOT have any more 'names' thrown into the ring right now and that the first time we all know who the new manager is going to be, will be on the day they actually announce it.

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

blazerafe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote: Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters. Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others. I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window. Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails. Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake ! Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now. Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ? The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these. I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ? Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against. This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ? Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ? I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ? Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ? Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation. I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity. Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not. Just a thought folk's ? Arte et labore

And what happens when Bowyer starts to lose games, what happens when the teams we play are actually competent at playing football? what then, will you still stand by your common sense ideals. Its obvious that when early February comes round we will hire someone and Bowyer through all his rights or wrongs will be one again demoted. If your backing Bowyer then great, nobody wants to say a bad word about him. Dont think for a second that Venkys will treat him with any respect after the end of the transfer window.

When Bowyer begins to lose games, as you put it - then the boo boys will be out in force again. It is facking simple - Why ? Because I know what Blackburn fans can be like seeing as I've followed, lived and breathed this facking place for nigh on 50 years following this club for 40 of them consistently. I will stand by my comments everyday of the week, and even discuss with one and all over them. I quite clearly state the 'wisdom of some' toward this current situation our club finds itself in nor do I profess to have the answers as most other posters do not either, but what I will say is this - the self perpetuating actions of some of our clubs supporters are doing untold damage to the club. Never mind that Venky and Co are the main culprits in this - allegedly - no other will damage the club more than US the supporter with this continued protest of what is deemed to be best for it ? We as supporters are never going to have our our way that is a simple fact, and this is highlighted by the 10,000 that have chosen to stay away because they cannot have their own way. Proof enough I would surmise ? Supporting your club takes balls, belief, dedication regardless of the situation. I didn't here folk bleeting at the Bill Fox era for instance when things were bleak - Why ? Because we knew our station, but always believing. Venky have made a sows ear out of buying our club and i have vented my spleen often enough, but never have I turned on my club as some supporters are quite clearly doing whether through a conscience state or an ignorance ? Blackburn Rovers Football Club loses games even under the greatest of managers, Bowyer will be no different the salvation from this is that Bowyer is a winner quite clearly proven up to date, and that is good enough added to a very important stability that could very well put our club back on a level footing for the future that WE all crave. It is about time US Rovers supporters begin the process of thought toward that instead of maligning the club with their own vision for the hatred of Venky. Their is only one loser in all of this: Blackburn Rovers Football Club. I won't turn on my club and should I see a glint of light that I see as worth supporting I will do that without booing or venting my spleen at the current situation. Why ? Because I am Blackburn through and through. Bowyer and Co have shown me he understands the situation just as Berg(unfortunately he lost his job) did and shat in the face of adversity just as I will for our club no matter what the circumstances. If we the supporter don't remain loyal shouting from the rooftops that things are improving then we can all go home and let this projected episode become what a lot of supporters believe it is ? I know Blackburn supporters from the road sweeper to the chattering class in the Walker stand, and we can bemoan like no other regards this football club, but if we want a football club worth supporting then the supporter had better make stark choices and grow some facking balls and cease bleeting at these owners. They will succeed or fail all on their own ? The bottom line is 'where was you when the shat hit the fan ? I was out on the terraces supporting the B&W shirt followed by the crest that will be adorned for time infinite, but not if the Venky antagonists have their way. I know of one person who is making inroads with dialogue towards finding a settlement that besieges our club, and from his previous dealings with the club he came out a winner followed by every single person that walks onto Ewood Park. I rest my case. Regards Arte et labore

I'm with you on this RR. Time to move on and look forward..

All I am looking for is good faith. If we drop down the league I can accept that no problem. And to be honest, did we not all know that was bound to happen post Jack?
It is just that from the outset the Venkys have seemed to be a bunch of phonies without that good faith.

The police have advised the public to avoid making false and libelous posts on twitter following Jim Davidson's arrest for sex offences.

"Be very wary of accusing him of being a comedian" said the head of the police operation.

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

All the above posts are accurate. No-one has criticised the two lads only the people above them. And as for being a doom monger,do you expect everybody to praise this bunch of shysters! I will criticise until they day they have all left.

...and then you will more than likely criticise whoever else comes in, along with the weather, the shade of blue the new kit is, the price of pies on the concourse, the new bus time table to and from the ground. There will always be something for the doom and gloom brigade along with the no brain boo boys to twist and complain about.

What is required is a management team that understands Blackburn Rovers FC, the fans (thats the real fans getting behind the side) and has the respect of the players. We already have the perfect candidates on board, Gary & Terry. Real football men who have been at the club through thick and thin for many years.

Who has said that the current caretaker managers will not have a say in any possible transfers? Have I missed a club statement saying so? It is more than likely Gary Bowyer who is offered the post until the end of the season which makes total sense if he is doing a decent job. Doing a decent job does not mean winning every game 3-0 or signing the next Alan Shearer. Doing a good job is providing decent displays and making us hard to beat again, keeping the players fit and gradually building on what we've got.

Nobody is asking anybody to praise the owners, all the real fans want is for everybody to pull together and support the team and the manager. It's not too much to ask is it?

blazerafe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

blazerafe wrote:

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Doomongers on here at lighning speed complete with burning effigies and torches looking for something else to burn. Can anyone calm this angry mob of nutters.

Great idea, common sense is prevailing, its about time too, I'm sure they will do a sterling job and thanks for pulling us out of the muck left behind by others.
I'm sure if there are any shortfalls in the playing staff, they will be highlighted and dealt with during the window.
Thanks Gary and Terry.

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer and Co need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some ?

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore

And what happens when Bowyer starts to lose games, what happens when the teams we play are actually competent at playing football? what then, will you still stand by your common sense ideals. Its obvious that when early February comes round we will hire someone and Bowyer through all his rights or wrongs will be one again demoted. If your backing Bowyer then great, nobody wants to say a bad word about him. Dont think for a second that Venkys will treat him with any respect after the end of the transfer window.

When Bowyer begins to lose games, as you put it - then the boo boys will be out in force again. It is facking simple - Why ? Because I know what Blackburn fans can be like seeing as I've followed, lived and breathed this facking place for nigh on 50 years following this club for 40 of them consistently.

I will stand by my comments everyday of the week, and even discuss with one and all over them. I quite clearly state the 'wisdom of some' toward this current situation our club finds itself in nor do I profess to have the answers as most other posters do not either, but what I will say is this - the self perpetuating actions of some of our clubs supporters are doing untold damage to the club. Never mind that Venky and Co are the main culprits in this - allegedly - no other will damage the club more than US the supporter with this continued protest of what is deemed to be best for it ?

We as supporters are never going to have our our way that is a simple fact, and this is highlighted by the 10,000 that have chosen to stay away because they cannot have their own way. Proof enough I would surmise ?

Supporting your club takes balls, belief, dedication regardless of the situation. I didn't here folk bleeting at the Bill Fox era for instance when things were bleak - Why ? Because we knew our station, but always believing.

Venky have made a sows ear out of buying our club and i have vented my spleen often enough, but never have I turned on my club as some supporters are quite clearly doing whether through a conscience state or an ignorance ?

Blackburn Rovers Football Club loses games even under the greatest of managers, Bowyer will be no different the salvation from this is that Bowyer is a winner quite clearly proven up to date, and that is good enough added to a very important stability that could very well put our club back on a level footing for the future that WE all crave. It is about time US Rovers supporters begin the process of thought toward that instead of maligning the club with their own vision for the hatred of Venky.

Their is only one loser in all of this: Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

I won't turn on my club and should I see a glint of light that I see as worth supporting I will do that without booing or venting my spleen at the current situation. Why ? Because I am Blackburn through and through. Bowyer and Co have shown me he understands the situation just as Berg(unfortunately he lost his job) did and shat in the face of adversity just as I will for our club no matter what the circumstances. If we the supporter don't remain loyal shouting from the rooftops that things are improving then we can all go home and let this projected episode become what a lot of supporters believe it is ?

I know Blackburn supporters from the road sweeper to the chattering class in the Walker stand, and we can bemoan like no other regards this football club, but if we want a football club worth supporting then the supporter had better make stark choices and grow some facking balls and cease bleeting at these owners. They will succeed or fail all on their own ?

The bottom line is 'where was you when the shat hit the fan ?

I was out on the terraces supporting the B&W shirt followed by the crest that will be adorned for time infinite, but not if the Venky antagonists have their way.

I know of one person who is making inroads with dialogue towards finding a settlement that besieges our club, and from his previous dealings with the club he came out a winner followed by every single person that walks onto Ewood Park.

I rest my case.

Regards

Arte et labore

Berg was sacked after 57 games after just 1 win against Peterborough who at the time were rock bottom - Bowyer won against Barnsley who were rock bottom and the Forest side that was fielded was not the same squad that had been winning matches, Rochina's goal was an absolute fluke and our other two due to poor defending and a lucky shot from Kaz. Yet as they say a goal is a goal and 3 points is 3 points which is great, however if we came across a team like Palace again and how they performed in our last game, Bowyer or not/Team spirit or not we are simply not good enough. I like Bowyer and if he has changed the team then its about time, all i was saying is that after this torrid few years i do not foresee this being as open and closed as that. I also believe that when he does start to lose games his head will be on the line just like the rest of them reserve manager or not. As for the **** hitting the fan comment, your not alone in where you were - thousands of us were and continue to be there as well. I just dont want to see what happened to Portsmouth happen to my club because of incompetent owners.

Hi Blazerafe - thanks for your reply and in no way am I having a go at you or any of my fellow supporters. I would never do that for your view is as valid as the next - rightly or wrongly ?

It is to be warranted your view considering the inane goings on down at the good ship Ewood, but I must beg to differ, if only for the last two games. This resurgence must begin somewhere and on the evidence of the Barnsley game, but unable to witness the Forest game(so I won't comment), I spotted something that encouraged me. I've done most away games this season, and Huddersfield was very nearly Barnsley only this time the tactics, belief were there. I believe that was a defining moment in Bergs tenure. had we won that game then I firmly believe things would have worked out differently for him ? The pressure on him was made more intense whereupon under Bowyer and Co a different pressure shows itself, in my opinion ? Strangely enough he doesn't have that pressure, but a pressure that he will thrive under for his remit is to prepare the team. He is on a winner he cannot lose thus, in my estimation the squad benefit no end which in turn US supporter enjoy the fruits of that. It's a kind of black comedy !

Under good leadership this squad of players, and against my earlier opinion some weeks ago over some not being ready for the rigors of the Championship through poor buy's, I believe this lot are good enough for this Championship and are more than capable of bouncing back - under good leadership. Bowyer and Co, from my perspective are providing that. When we lose next time , again in my opinion, my feelings will be that of disappointment but unlike these past few years. I just would not be so disrespectful toward Bowyer and Co other than to give him anything less than 100% genuine support. Anything other than that that, again in my estimation, would be disrespectful and tar him with the shambles down at Ewood when nothing could be further from the truth on evidence thus far ?

Our club will survive no matter what regardless of the incompetent owners you quite rightly criticise, but we are watching very closely doing what we can as supporters, but for me, the situation BRFC finds itself in under Bowyer and Co, for that which I've said above, deserves to be judged on it's current merits rather than ****-eyed view we've all had to endure these last 2 years ?

Like I say constantly to myself only one element in all this is suffering: Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

We as supporters must keep that pressure away from Bowyer and Co, in my mind, as he didn't generate it and most certainly doesn't deserve it at this point in time ?

Something will get the momentum going on the back of what is a positive amongst all the blithe - I believe the supporters have to believe what they are seeing in practical/objective terms rather than subjective ?

Pressure Drop.

Regards

Arte et labore

Is it any wonder that there appears to be a lack of quality managers wanting the Rovers job at the moment after the abuse Steve Kean received.
Fired up by a handful of supporters with more time on their hands than the rest of us the whole country thinks Ewood is a powerkeg for any manager now.
Malicious rumour circulated via the internet is deemed to be gospel within the day to such extent that even the faithful start to believe the tripe that is spat from some peoples faces.
Instead of coming on here and other similar forums we should start to seek out these so called 'supporters' that have hidden agendas, and stop this internal cancer from eating away at our club once and for all. Local businessmen who think they can engineer running the club should concentrate on their own businesses in these troubled times.
With the right sort of support both in numbers and vocally we might attract the right sort of manager who will lead us up the league. Otherwise these nobodies, with their internet interviews and twitter accounts are going to ruin our club for a long while to come
RTID

This makes the 6 months contract for the new Manager sound silly as there will be only three months of the playing season left by the end of January. Why can't Shebby just say a short term contract initially and then negotiate the period with the applicant instead of coming out with a period that may not be practical. It was the same when he is telling everyone that he would have a new manager in by the end of new years day. Will he ever learn.He should leave the announcements to Derek Shaw.

My author friend committed suicide yesterday.

I think it was because he was suffering from "writer's block", but I'm not sure.

He didn't leave a note.

Good luck to Gary B - just dont let Shebby interfere.

Do not think I will understand Venkys or their process in how they run the football club - in fact I am sure I am not alone in saying I am totally bored of the Politics surrounding Rovers which comes out of Ewood. Pity we could not put them all ona desert island and leave them there - so we can enjoy our football.

I did sense on Tuesday after an uncertain first half that belief was coming back into the squad and if thy can get another victory on Saturday and a result at Wolves then who knows.

I would like to see the squad strengthened - at the back Curtis Davies of Birmingham who are financially under pressure would be a good option assuming Givet leaves. If Robinson is to go we need an experienced goalkeeper on the books even if Jake Kean has an extended run. Midfield we need to find a box to box player if Etuhu is on the move as I would prefer Simon V as a right winger (backing up the fullback) although he can do the midfield role if he stays fit.

Come on Rovers nothing to loose go out and give it a go and lets make 2013 a success whoever is in charge

1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
This makes the 6 months contract for the new Manager sound silly as there will be only three months of the playing season left by the end of January. Why can't Shebby just say a short term contract initially and then negotiate the period with the applicant instead of coming out with a period that may not be practical. It was the same when he is telling everyone that he would have a new manager in by the end of new years day. Will he ever learn.He should leave the announcements to Derek Shaw.

Quite simply, Shabby is a complete buffoon who never puts his brain in gear before opening his mouth. All you have to do is listen to him on any radio programme. The man is a complete embarrassment to BRFC, and he alone is completing the job that Venky's began. He is, or rather already has, made us the laughing stock of football. He has no qualifications whatsoever to be involved, but some people on here take positives from him - it beggars belief!

I'm all for being optimistic, but the appointment of GB, and I sincerely hope he succeeds, just smells as a front for the megalomaniac Shabby to continue playing football manager with a real club - unfortunately us.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW

Rovers supporters have been asking what HENDRY does now at Rovers since Steve Kean departed ?
Well Steve Kean and Singh gave Hendry a 3 year contract of 8,000 pounds a week ,yes unbelievable a three year contract on 8,000 pounds a week, as defensive coach ,more that probably 80% of the managers in the championship/ then HENDRY got himself demoted to assistant manager to Gary Bowyer of the reserves ,Gary earns 1,200 pounds a week , his assisitant Hendry is on 8k a week ,crazy, anyway since Gary has been looking after the first team , we hear Phillips is mainly doing the reserves now , Hendry is back driving for a living but not his old drinking pal Steve Kean ,but for Shebby Singh , Hendry has been seen driving Shebby the snake around for the last few days , wow !!! who would not drive a car around for 8,000 pounds a week , Shebby o.k`d that wage packet for Hendry ,so he has got to use him in any capacity he see`s fit.

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

The only problem with the six month contract is it will limit the number of candidates showing an interest.......Some would probably stick out for a longer deal rather than risk getting the push in a few weeks.

makaveli96 wrote:
My author friend committed suicide yesterday.

I think it was because he was suffering from "writer's block", but I'm not sure.

He didn't leave a note.

Afternoon Mr makaveli96 :)

Mischief making are we ! :)

Arte et labore

BRFC75 wrote:
Rovers supporters have been asking what HENDRY does now at Rovers since Steve Kean departed ?
Well Steve Kean and Singh gave Hendry a 3 year contract of 8,000 pounds a week ,yes unbelievable a three year contract on 8,000 pounds a week, as defensive coach ,more that probably 80% of the managers in the championship/ then HENDRY got himself demoted to assistant manager to Gary Bowyer of the reserves ,Gary earns 1,200 pounds a week , his assisitant Hendry is on 8k a week ,crazy, anyway since Gary has been looking after the first team , we hear Phillips is mainly doing the reserves now , Hendry is back driving for a living but not his old drinking pal Steve Kean ,but for Shebby Singh , Hendry has been seen driving Shebby the snake around for the last few days , wow !!! who would not drive a car around for 8,000 pounds a week , Shebby o.k`d that wage packet for Hendry ,so he has got to use him in any capacity he see`s fit.

I think that would put Hendry on a bit more money than our Global Advisor.

Demoted to reserve team coach and now driving a car round for a living.

Unbelievable.

This is pathetic what if bowyer starts losing?we get a new manager when he canot get rid of all the rubbish Berg had to contend with.and he cannot bring in a new defender eithe,we cannot rely on Shebby to ring in anyoe decent as he know very little about pro football.

Oh dear this is another massive mistake by venkys. Transfer window is going to pass us by with no new manager in place. I really do fear for the club if we have a couple of bad results under Bowyer and Mc Phillips in january we are doomed and the playoffs will be out of reach, a new manager would not have the time to rebuild.

An obvious strategy by the Venkys to ensure they do not have to give the new manager any money to spend on players, or part of the plan to appoint Gary Bowyer eventually.
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If this is part of the plan, can I strongly URGE SINGH and his LACKIES to sign an experienced central defender to replace SCOTT DANN, who is atrocious and needs to be dropped.
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SCOTT DANN is the second coming of CHRISTIAN DIALLY, signed on BIG MONEY and ABSOLUTELY DEVOID of any DEFENSIVE QUALITIES other than being a big lump.
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SINGH please ASK every Rovers fan you meet what they think of SCOTT DANN and you will see, we will be going NOWHERE in any LEAGUE with that SACK OF SH** within spitting distance of our first team. DANN is a fuc****LIABILITY, get RID NOW!!!!
Atleast if the new manager has a decent experienced CENTRAL DEFENDER we have a fighting chance of competing for the play offs, depending on our form between now and Jan 31st.

That's why they got rid of Henning Berg so that they wouldn't have to spend any money, Singh is an absolute plank, everything time he opens his mouth the rubbish that he spouts none of it makes sense.

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....



i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

Yep so good, your manager wanted to go down a division! But then again who can blame him, we're a joke at the moment so what does that you? Obsessed with rovers, not won anything in recent history, about to sell Austin, you're in debt, you're in Yorkshire, you smash up your own town, your ground is a dump, gawthorpe is a dump, you're nothing and that's why you stalk the rovers pages you all time loser!

Eddie Howe for Rovers. Tempt him back - he is brilliant in League 1.

BRFC75 wrote:
Rovers supporters have been asking what HENDRY does now at Rovers since Steve Kean departed ?
Well Steve Kean and Singh gave Hendry a 3 year contract of 8,000 pounds a week ,yes unbelievable a three year contract on 8,000 pounds a week, as defensive coach ,more that probably 80% of the managers in the championship/ then HENDRY got himself demoted to assistant manager to Gary Bowyer of the reserves ,Gary earns 1,200 pounds a week , his assisitant Hendry is on 8k a week ,crazy, anyway since Gary has been looking after the first team , we hear Phillips is mainly doing the reserves now , Hendry is back driving for a living but not his old drinking pal Steve Kean ,but for Shebby Singh , Hendry has been seen driving Shebby the snake around for the last few days , wow !!! who would not drive a car around for 8,000 pounds a week , Shebby o.k`d that wage packet for Hendry ,so he has got to use him in any capacity he see`s fit.

And its good to see you over your Hendry obsession in this brand new year.
Maybe he has become chief scout and advisor to the global advisor.

Oakdale blue wrote:
Is it any wonder that there appears to be a lack of quality managers wanting the Rovers job at the moment after the abuse Steve Kean received.
Fired up by a handful of supporters with more time on their hands than the rest of us the whole country thinks Ewood is a powerkeg for any manager now.
Malicious rumour circulated via the internet is deemed to be gospel within the day to such extent that even the faithful start to believe the tripe that is spat from some peoples faces.
Instead of coming on here and other similar forums we should start to seek out these so called 'supporters' that have hidden agendas, and stop this internal cancer from eating away at our club once and for all. Local businessmen who think they can engineer running the club should concentrate on their own businesses in these troubled times.
With the right sort of support both in numbers and vocally we might attract the right sort of manager who will lead us up the league. Otherwise these nobodies, with their internet interviews and twitter accounts are going to ruin our club for a long while to come
RTID

You mean there are people actively instigating another boycott trying to get Venkys to sell it on the cheap??? who would possibly come up with such a cunning plan??
BRAG ? BRIST? BREAST FED?
Do you mean there are some people who,as they could not afford the 40 million asking price they will now spread all sorts of guff to drive the price down to the pledged £30,000. Darker Forces indeed

Fan@clared wrote:

LittleRonnieHildersl

ey wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....




i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

Yep so good, your manager wanted to go down a division! But then again who can blame him, we're a joke at the moment so what does that you? Obsessed with rovers, not won anything in recent history, about to sell Austin, you're in debt, you're in Yorkshire, you smash up your own town, your ground is a dump, gawthorpe is a dump, you're nothing and that's why you stalk the rovers pages you all time loser!

Eddie Howe for Rovers. Tempt him back - he is brilliant in League 1.

Well he couldn't wait to dump you turdies, that in itself makes him a more commendable choice than Kean.. Watching you cry as you leave Ewood with another failed attempt at ending your losing streak and realising its never happening WOULD be made all the more delicious if Howe was there to add to your misery..

Just go easy on the poor defenseless pet store (or more colloquially known as the brothel) this time around...

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Oakdale blue wrote:
Is it any wonder that there appears to be a lack of quality managers wanting the Rovers job at the moment after the abuse Steve Kean received.
Fired up by a handful of supporters with more time on their hands than the rest of us the whole country thinks Ewood is a powerkeg for any manager now.
Malicious rumour circulated via the internet is deemed to be gospel within the day to such extent that even the faithful start to believe the tripe that is spat from some peoples faces.
Instead of coming on here and other similar forums we should start to seek out these so called 'supporters' that have hidden agendas, and stop this internal cancer from eating away at our club once and for all. Local businessmen who think they can engineer running the club should concentrate on their own businesses in these troubled times.
With the right sort of support both in numbers and vocally we might attract the right sort of manager who will lead us up the league. Otherwise these nobodies, with their internet interviews and twitter accounts are going to ruin our club for a long while to come
RTID

You mean there are people actively instigating another boycott trying to get Venkys to sell it on the cheap??? who would possibly come up with such a cunning plan??
BRAG ? BRIST? BREAST FED?
Do you mean there are some people who,as they could not afford the 40 million asking price they will now spread all sorts of guff to drive the price down to the pledged £30,000. Darker Forces indeed

Careful 8 ball, Glen Mullen has publicly declared that their solicitors will be after anyone making defamatory statements against his group.. Be afraid.. Be very afraid..

LOL@Breast fed

BLACKBURN ROVERS EWOOD SALE TRUST FREELY EMPLOYING DONUTS

dezzer48 wrote:
That's why they got rid of Henning Berg so that they wouldn't have to spend any money, Singh is an absolute plank, everything time he opens his mouth the rubbish that he spouts none of it makes sense.

Telegraph, Tuesday December 11th.

Anyone remember this..........BERG LOOKS FOR JANUARY BOOST.
Boss expects to be able to add to squad.

Berg ready to bring in quality not quantity during January transfer window.

Yeah right, sure he will Venkeys..........Sh8
thouses

BrockhallVill3 wrote:
Our club is an unbelievable farce. They just do not have any idea on how to run a club. Every week is full of contradictions… we need a change, we need someone in quickly, we need to get the right appointment and now they won’t make a decision until the end of January! That’s not a 6 month contract its three and a half months! Who in the right mind will work for these idiots? Shebby says he doesn’t interfere in the team and then blocks players from being included in the squad! Bowyer does seem to be doing ok but our recent wins have been against poor opponents, but we will take that. The risk being that if we do not get promotion this year we will be in a financial mess which we may never recover from, adding to this will be the exodus of any decent players we have in the squad, leaving us with a very poor team indeed and would be near impossible to rebuild and recover with the shambles of a setup that Venky’s have implemented. The fans will continue to diminish and stay away unless they start learning their lessons. We have had over two years of pain since they got rid of the quality directors and Big Sam and replaced them with a bunch of clueless idiots. The total lack of organisation within Rovers must be embarrassing to any decent Indian business people, you take good people out and replace them with people who do not know what they are doing, can’t agree among themselves and don’t have a plan. It’s not difficult to resolve, get the boardroom sorted one way or another, define the roles of the staff and stick to them, put in place a popular manager, one that the fans and players want, one with experience who knows how to get the best of the players, know tactically how to setup a team against varying opponents. Venky’s have been destroying this club for too long and the fans have had all the pain. I for one do not think they care.

Spot on well said !

Shebby OUT !

Harwoodstblue wrote:

dezzer48 wrote:
That's why they got rid of Henning Berg so that they wouldn't have to spend any money, Singh is an absolute plank, everything time he opens his mouth the rubbish that he spouts none of it makes sense.

Telegraph, Tuesday December 11th.

Anyone remember this..........BERG LOOKS FOR JANUARY BOOST.
Boss expects to be able to add to squad.

Berg ready to bring in quality not quantity during January transfer window.

Yeah right, sure he will Venkeys..........Sh8

thouses

Two weeks later he was sacked.

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

I agree. Lets unite. Please no one re-post this having a go.

Time to move on.

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

1952 rover wrote:

AndyW wrote: Have I missed something? Where in that statement does it mention them being in charge until the end of Jan?

I think you need some reading glasses I have just read it on the Rovers Web Site.

and on sky sports breaking news. I despair of some rovers fans. Wont believe a summarised version in a report but believe the assumed intentions of a bunch of shysters. Reading about Bowyer this morning (and I have absolutely nothing against him and do not blame him and agree that the candidates mentioned are not good enough) its like going back 2 years. A repeat of the process that followed Sams sacking. Kean was given a game, fans said give him a chance, then it went to christmas then end of year and well you know the rest. It all ended in tears, banners, protests and chickens on the pitch. Two words - money saving. It would be wonderful to think that Venkys had made that decision for the reasons a lot of you believe but if we havent all learned by now that they do not make decisions based on whats best for the club, there is no hope for us.

Bit of a difference there though mate, Bowyer has a track record of success at every level he has operated at. whereas when big Sam left and the first team coach went with him, Kean, who was first team cone placer at the time was promoted having no track record of success at any level. He could hand out a mean High Vis bibb and looked awsome at placing the tyres though.
So your comparison really isn't apples and apples its apples and doughnuts.
If Bowyer did lose the next three games it would only speed up the process of finding a new manager, if he wins the next three would you be bothered?

No you are right. I wouldnt argue different with you and Im not specifically bothered that Bowyer is being given till the end of the month (as long as they are still looking and aren't going to switch off until he loses two on the bounce). If we are struggling at the end of the month another two months could be wasted going over the same aimless process again. My point is that they are going down the same path as they did with Kean. Sack a manager, flounder, leave the next one still in a job with the reins. It's just confirmation that they haven't learned and aren't going to stand by their word and then Shebby's word about getting experienced. manager in. We would go out of business at work operating like that. They are utterly clueless and I suspect they are now totally apathetic about the club. I believe that if that squad of players put their heads together, and their hearts in it and pulled their socks up they could win two games without a manager.

A fair decision; I think that Gary Bowyer has started really well and certainly deserves a chance. I hope though that a deal may still be reached with Brad Friedel; I think he would be a huge asset to the club both on and off the field.

whittaker0 wrote:
A fair decision; I think that Gary Bowyer has started really well and certainly deserves a chance. I hope though that a deal may still be reached with Brad Friedel; I think he would be a huge asset to the club both on and off the field.

Hasn't he just signed a new contract at Spurs ?

I think those who are reacting in a way they accuse others of i.e. moaning, jumping the gun, posting as though their opinions are correct, should just bear in mind that being a skeptical Rovers fan is to be expected after the manure we've had to suffer for two years. If you or Shebby cant understand why fans believe rumours and why they dont trust what they are told, its because we have had no factual communication and only ever had rumour. We have also been lied to which develops a sense of suspicion in people. It's like expecting the Christians to enter the Colosseum for a re-run with tigers instead of lions and expecting them to go for it.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

whittaker0 wrote:
A fair decision; I think that Gary Bowyer has started really well and certainly deserves a chance. I hope though that a deal may still be reached with Brad Friedel; I think he would be a huge asset to the club both on and off the field.

Hasn't he just signed a new contract at Spurs ?

He did before christmas after stating he was happy at spurs.

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

merlinrabbit wrote:
I think those who are reacting in a way they accuse others of i.e. moaning, jumping the gun, posting as though their opinions are correct, should just bear in mind that being a skeptical Rovers fan is to be expected after the manure we've had to suffer for two years. If you or Shebby cant understand why fans believe rumours and why they dont trust what they are told, its because we have had no factual communication and only ever had rumour. We have also been lied to which develops a sense of suspicion in people. It's like expecting the Christians to enter the Colosseum for a re-run with tigers instead of lions and expecting them to go for it.

Interesting that you say that its all changed in the last two years, Merlin - the irony is that there was just as much moaning when the club WAS well run and well managed under Williams et al and Big Sam. Hard to believe now, but there honestly was.
.

fact is that people like a good rant and they are attracted to forums such as this. They can mouth off and purport to have full knowledge and awareness then stick the post up and feel good about themselves. Its human nature...for many.

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
looking at this sensibly, what options have the Venkys got , we are the laffing sotck of football ( Sky Sports news presenters grinning last week) they have sacked Big Sam , appoitnted Kean sacked him , appointed Berg sacked him ,,ermm who s goin come now that Taylor out the frame , if i were Venkys id treat Bowyer Like Royality he s getting results, will save us from relegation again and the last lad to have a go - then its closed

Your not telling me nobody want to manage our club !!!

What about Sven? Manzano? Phill Brown all said so press they would be interested.

Mark Hughes would also be interested if we sacked shebby and got backroom staff/board sorted.

Im not having nobody suddenly wants to join our club!!

Rod of the Rovers wrote:
You really could not make this up if you tried. Venkys have made a succession of bad decisions for more than 2 years, due to a combination of ineptitude and greed within the club. What happens if we lose our next three games, will they sit it out, stubbornly awaiting for the 1 February, so that they can then appoint someone who will have no say on the playing staff situation until the summer?

Clearly the owners are intent on stripping out everything that they can get their greedy hand on. The only way to force them out is to cut off their income supply, by stop going to Ewood Park. All those people who continue to put their hard earned cash into the Venkys coffers will continue to endorse and support a regime that has been intent on harming the club from the first day.

Spot on!! I've been saying the same thing for nearly two years.

blueblooded wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Oakdale blue wrote:
Is it any wonder that there appears to be a lack of quality managers wanting the Rovers job at the moment after the abuse Steve Kean received.
Fired up by a handful of supporters with more time on their hands than the rest of us the whole country thinks Ewood is a powerkeg for any manager now.
Malicious rumour circulated via the internet is deemed to be gospel within the day to such extent that even the faithful start to believe the tripe that is spat from some peoples faces.
Instead of coming on here and other similar forums we should start to seek out these so called 'supporters' that have hidden agendas, and stop this internal cancer from eating away at our club once and for all. Local businessmen who think they can engineer running the club should concentrate on their own businesses in these troubled times.
With the right sort of support both in numbers and vocally we might attract the right sort of manager who will lead us up the league. Otherwise these nobodies, with their internet interviews and twitter accounts are going to ruin our club for a long while to come
RTID

You mean there are people actively instigating another boycott trying to get Venkys to sell it on the cheap??? who would possibly come up with such a cunning plan??
BRAG ? BRIST? BREAST FED?
Do you mean there are some people who,as they could not afford the 40 million asking price they will now spread all sorts of guff to drive the price down to the pledged £30,000. Darker Forces indeed

Careful 8 ball, Glen Mullen has publicly declared that their solicitors will be after anyone making defamatory statements against his group.. Be afraid.. Be very afraid..

LOL@Breast fed

BLACKBURN ROVERS EWOOD SALE TRUST FREELY EMPLOYING DONUTS

I think its this new BREAST FED supporters group, apparently they're always spitting out the dummy.. Next home game they have threatened to do the dirty nappy protest.
The group was formed after mamma Venky said that we are her baby and the baby felt neglected.

merlinrabbit wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

All very good points.....Some people have very short memories and seem to think this debacle is the fans fault with hardly a criticism of Venkys.

If it wasn't for therm we wouldn't be here now. No wonder they never show their faces.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

All very good points.....Some people have very short memories and seem to think this debacle is the fans fault with hardly a criticism of Venkys.

If it wasn't for therm we wouldn't be here now. No wonder they never show their faces.

By the way. They're continuing their penny pinching and cost cutting this season, just the same as last ,and that's exactly what got us in this trouble.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

All very good points.....Some people have very short memories and seem to think this debacle is the fans fault with hardly a criticism of Venkys.

If it wasn't for therm we wouldn't be here now. No wonder they never show their faces.

You are correct but, noone is comparing Venkys to Jack Walker, thats just a cheap shot, there is only one Jack Walker but when are you going to stop stating the obvious.
If they hadn't sacked sam
If they hadn't sold him,
If John williams etc etc, How is this continually going on about what went wrong going to move things forward?
Are you a couple of folk/blues singers?
Y'know that dog I used to have,
that woman i used to have,
that car I used to have,
Why don't you concentrate on what you have and not what you used to have. Its gone
How is going on about what we used to be helping matters at all?

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

All very good points.....Some people have very short memories and seem to think this debacle is the fans fault with hardly a criticism of Venkys.

If it wasn't for therm we wouldn't be here now. No wonder they never show their faces.

You are correct but, noone is comparing Venkys to Jack Walker, thats just a cheap shot, there is only one Jack Walker but when are you going to stop stating the obvious.
If they hadn't sacked sam
If they hadn't sold him,
If John williams etc etc, How is this continually going on about what went wrong going to move things forward?
Are you a couple of folk/blues singers?
Y'know that dog I used to have,
that woman i used to have,
that car I used to have,
Why don't you concentrate on what you have and not what you used to have. Its gone
How is going on about what we used to be helping matters at all?

Hi 8 ball, I can see your point but I have a very long memory and I have never liked liars and cheats.
What frustrates me is that they don't seem to understand that cutting, cutting and cutting some more doesn't work in football.
Have they not learned anything from last season. Most clubs spend what they can to buy the best possible players they can afford. We have just been selling ours and have ended up second rate at best.
I am looking for just an inkling of ambition from Venkys but there's nothing on the horizon that I can see.

With the present crop of failed managers available that would possibly work for this lot maybe it's not a bad idea of a six month trial ,it's no different to jobs that the man in the street has to undergo,I have in the past been taken on for positions were I have had to complete a three month trail period prior to see if I came up to standard before being offered the job on a permanent basis,these managers are onto a winner sign a three year deal fail miserably and walk away with sack full of money,nice work if you can get it.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

All very good points.....Some people have very short memories and seem to think this debacle is the fans fault with hardly a criticism of Venkys.

If it wasn't for therm we wouldn't be here now. No wonder they never show their faces.

You are correct but, noone is comparing Venkys to Jack Walker, thats just a cheap shot, there is only one Jack Walker but when are you going to stop stating the obvious.
If they hadn't sacked sam
If they hadn't sold him,
If John williams etc etc, How is this continually going on about what went wrong going to move things forward?
Are you a couple of folk/blues singers?
Y'know that dog I used to have,
that woman i used to have,
that car I used to have,
Why don't you concentrate on what you have and not what you used to have. Its gone
How is going on about what we used to be helping matters at all?

Hi 8 ball, I can see your point but I have a very long memory and I have never liked liars and cheats.
What frustrates me is that they don't seem to understand that cutting, cutting and cutting some more doesn't work in football.
Have they not learned anything from last season. Most clubs spend what they can to buy the best possible players they can afford. We have just been selling ours and have ended up second rate at best.
I am looking for just an inkling of ambition from Venkys but there's nothing on the horizon that I can see.

I know what you're saying and I'm not trying to discount everthing thats gone on and it does hurt, a lot, but I am willing to give Bowyer and co a bit of slack, after all they have been sh@t on too so its not their fault. Venkys have been a disaster so far, but maybe, with our backing the team can start performing, I'm not saying its going to be a success because success for venkys for me will be if we finish higher than before they came in. That is success plain and simple. But we have to start cutting the lads some slack and getting behind them or it could go the other way, which is not what any of us wants.

How much more bullsh!t are us Rovers fans expected to swallow from Shebby and co.?????
A few days ago Shebby says an appointment hoping to be made after the Notts Forest match on New Years Day!!!
Then we make a signing in King, don't get me wrong he's done OK but not exactly been pulling up trees, and may or may not be part of a new managers plans.
Now it's a case of no appointment to be made until early Feb and only a six month contract at that and a performance related target, that after the transfer window has closed and only three and a half months of season remaining.
So Shebby expects another new man to come in with another mans players again, thats if we not already sold them on.
Oh and lets not forget we have no training staff left either.
A question for Shebby then, who in their right mind would ever consider applying for a job to work under these circumstances???

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

All very good points.....Some people have very short memories and seem to think this debacle is the fans fault with hardly a criticism of Venkys.

If it wasn't for therm we wouldn't be here now. No wonder they never show their faces.

You are correct but, noone is comparing Venkys to Jack Walker, thats just a cheap shot, there is only one Jack Walker but when are you going to stop stating the obvious.
If they hadn't sacked sam
If they hadn't sold him,
If John williams etc etc, How is this continually going on about what went wrong going to move things forward?
Are you a couple of folk/blues singers?
Y'know that dog I used to have,
that woman i used to have,
that car I used to have,
Why don't you concentrate on what you have and not what you used to have. Its gone
How is going on about what we used to be helping matters at all?

Hi 8 ball, I can see your point but I have a very long memory and I have never liked liars and cheats.
What frustrates me is that they don't seem to understand that cutting, cutting and cutting some more doesn't work in football.
Have they not learned anything from last season. Most clubs spend what they can to buy the best possible players they can afford. We have just been selling ours and have ended up second rate at best.
I am looking for just an inkling of ambition from Venkys but there's nothing on the horizon that I can see.

I know what you're saying and I'm not trying to discount everthing thats gone on and it does hurt, a lot, but I am willing to give Bowyer and co a bit of slack, after all they have been sh@t on too so its not their fault. Venkys have been a disaster so far, but maybe, with our backing the team can start performing, I'm not saying its going to be a success because success for venkys for me will be if we finish higher than before they came in. That is success plain and simple. But we have to start cutting the lads some slack and getting behind them or it could go the other way, which is not what any of us wants.

I agree, I have nothing against Bowyer and I was the first to say the other day that the decision by Venkys not to upset the apple cart after the two wins was the most sensible thing I have heard them say. But to hear that we're not going into the market this Jan when the team are exceptionally weak in certain positions is unbelievable. I think we all know the defence and midfield need strengthening but with King signed and Best to come back we will be OK up front.
I'll still be there but I'm so frustrated and am not enjoying things at the moment

owd nick wrote:

bigste wrote: Have to agree that not letting a new manager sign any players at all is going to make the short list very short indeed. bObvious to me that venkys are cutting their lossies and have no real belief in premier league football. They have blown it, end of.

The PL is the Golden Goose, just by getting promoted and relegated clubs pick up in the region of £50 million plus parachute payments, just for one season. That would offset any losses. Venky's, like them or not, and I don't like them one single iota, are not the idiots continually portrayed on here, they are multi millionaires looking to promote and expand their brand. The only way to do that is in the PL. How many people who completely deride and insult them on here are self made multi millionaires? The problem is that Venky's come from a totally different culture and most certainly don't understand our culture any better than we understand theirs. They don't, or didn't understand our passion for Rovers, that must have come as an incredible shock to them, especially when things started going wrong. They won't react favourably to the bile and insults because they are not used to being questioned or threatened, so they will withdraw deeper, become even more insular. But they won't give up because to do so would mean a huge loss of face, something their culture simply will not allow. That is almost certainly why it took so long to get rid of Kean, because he was appointed by them.. They didn't personally appoint Berg so sacking him wasn't a problem. Know and understand your enemy, it's the only way to beat them.

" self made multi millionaires"?

FYI they inherited the company.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

wilpshireover wrote:
1. It is a very good idea to carry on with the current temporary arrangement.

2. It is a very good idea to give the new manager a 6 month contract, it makes sense to me.

As usual, the usual whingers are moaning again. No matter what Venkys do hey cannot win with some folk. For goodness sake, give it a rest!!!

'No matter what Venkys do they cannot win with some folk'. Correct.

Thats actually a ridiculous statement/criticism. Of course Venkys can win. If they had stuck by their initial pledges, appointed a proper replacement for Sam or taken decisive action to ensure we weren't relegated by replacing Kean! Some of you are as bad as the so-called doom mongers with your tut tutting. You talk about Venkys as though they are of the Jack Walker ilk.

All very good points.....Some people have very short memories and seem to think this debacle is the fans fault with hardly a criticism of Venkys.

If it wasn't for therm we wouldn't be here now. No wonder they never show their faces.

You are correct but, noone is comparing Venkys to Jack Walker, thats just a cheap shot, there is only one Jack Walker but when are you going to stop stating the obvious.
If they hadn't sacked sam
If they hadn't sold him,
If John williams etc etc, How is this continually going on about what went wrong going to move things forward?
Are you a couple of folk/blues singers?
Y'know that dog I used to have,
that woman i used to have,
that car I used to have,
Why don't you concentrate on what you have and not what you used to have. Its gone
How is going on about what we used to be helping matters at all?

Hi 8 ball, I can see your point but I have a very long memory and I have never liked liars and cheats.
What frustrates me is that they don't seem to understand that cutting, cutting and cutting some more doesn't work in football.
Have they not learned anything from last season. Most clubs spend what they can to buy the best possible players they can afford. We have just been selling ours and have ended up second rate at best.
I am looking for just an inkling of ambition from Venkys but there's nothing on the horizon that I can see.

I know what you're saying and I'm not trying to discount everthing thats gone on and it does hurt, a lot, but I am willing to give Bowyer and co a bit of slack, after all they have been sh@t on too so its not their fault. Venkys have been a disaster so far, but maybe, with our backing the team can start performing, I'm not saying its going to be a success because success for venkys for me will be if we finish higher than before they came in. That is success plain and simple. But we have to start cutting the lads some slack and getting behind them or it could go the other way, which is not what any of us wants.

I agree, I have nothing against Bowyer and I was the first to say the other day that the decision by Venkys not to upset the apple cart after the two wins was the most sensible thing I have heard them say. But to hear that we're not going into the market this Jan when the team are exceptionally weak in certain positions is unbelievable. I think we all know the defence and midfield need strengthening but with King signed and Best to come back we will be OK up front.
I'll still be there but I'm so frustrated and am not enjoying things at the moment

I think we are all frustrated at the mo, granted I would have liked a more combative midfielder and a proper right winger and another centre back, but I feel in order to get those key players in, we will see more leaving first like Givet and Robinson plus other squad members who are nowhere near. Kean and shebby have bought some that may never don the kit at all. I mean I'm as good as Myles anderson and Bradley orr wasn't much better but for me you can add ribero and etuhu to that list. Lets see if Bowyer and co can change it round after all, Mark atkins wasn;t great until King Kenny had molded him a bit and sherwood was rubbish in this division as well, wanted too much time on the ball.

burnleyglentoran wrote:

Ray Gunn wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

Dingleglentoran.....


i can just read the envy in your txt.....and since 1995 what have you inbreeds done??? well??....nothing, infact what had you done prior to 1995 nothing! because you are a nothing club....we dont believe we have the god given right to be in the premier league, just like man united dont have the god given right to win the league...we have ambition....do you want me to spell that big word out phonetically for you? or will your mum help you with the big words...you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us....

"you scruffy lot will never in your life time be as good as us...."

"Rovers were outplayed by Burnley recently" - Kevin Gallacher on Radio Lancs



I'd love to explain, but I don't have any crayons mate!

BURNLEY FC - TOP DOGS IN EAST LANCS

Your probably using your crayons for other games with the family ...............

back to the footy.....111

I think most of us know which players we would like see move on at BRFC.

But who do we want in playing....!!

Ok, I think we should make recomendations to BRFC as we're football fans and we see or hear of players doing well. I'm sure we know a player or two out there in the Football league who in their opinion good be a good player for BRFC.

Lets start pointing out the players in the lower leagues who could be good signings for Rovers.
Tony McMahon Shfld utd
Andrew Haliday Midbrgh

who is .......Tony McMahon...??

if we need a good young defender who is tough and has ability then maybe you should consider Tony McMahon who is at Sheffield utd but ex Middbrg.

have a look...!!
I think we should go for him
hes a full back, strong, tough and has scored goals

Andrew haliday
tough strong and young


take a look and let us all know”

The wife's getting lazier by the day and I'm getting fed up with her.

Now all of a sudden I have to wipe my own arse.

whappen wrote:

owd nick wrote:

bigste wrote: Have to agree that not letting a new manager sign any players at all is going to make the short list very short indeed. bObvious to me that venkys are cutting their lossies and have no real belief in premier league football. They have blown it, end of.

The PL is the Golden Goose, just by getting promoted and relegated clubs pick up in the region of £50 million plus parachute payments, just for one season. That would offset any losses. Venky's, like them or not, and I don't like them one single iota, are not the idiots continually portrayed on here, they are multi millionaires looking to promote and expand their brand. The only way to do that is in the PL. How many people who completely deride and insult them on here are self made multi millionaires? The problem is that Venky's come from a totally different culture and most certainly don't understand our culture any better than we understand theirs. They don't, or didn't understand our passion for Rovers, that must have come as an incredible shock to them, especially when things started going wrong. They won't react favourably to the bile and insults because they are not used to being questioned or threatened, so they will withdraw deeper, become even more insular. But they won't give up because to do so would mean a huge loss of face, something their culture simply will not allow. That is almost certainly why it took so long to get rid of Kean, because he was appointed by them.. They didn't personally appoint Berg so sacking him wasn't a problem. Know and understand your enemy, it's the only way to beat them.

" self made multi millionaires"?

FYI they inherited the company.

Point totally missed.

cnorth62 wrote:
How much more bullsh!t are us Rovers fans expected to swallow from Shebby and co.?????
A few days ago Shebby says an appointment hoping to be made after the Notts Forest match on New Years Day!!!
Then we make a signing in King, don't get me wrong he's done OK but not exactly been pulling up trees, and may or may not be part of a new managers plans.
Now it's a case of no appointment to be made until early Feb and only a six month contract at that and a performance related target, that after the transfer window has closed and only three and a half months of season remaining.
So Shebby expects another new man to come in with another mans players again, thats if we not already sold them on.
Oh and lets not forget we have no training staff left either.
A question for Shebby then, who in their right mind would ever consider applying for a job to work under these circumstances???

You don't have to swallow, try spitting it out for a change, much safer.

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

owd nick wrote:

bigste wrote:
Have to agree that not letting a new manager sign any players at all is going to make the short list very short indeed. bObvious to me that venkys are cutting their lossies and have no real belief in premier league football. They have blown it, end of.

The PL is the Golden Goose, just by getting promoted and relegated clubs pick up in the region of £50 million plus parachute payments, just for one season.

That would offset any losses.

Venky's, like them or not, and I don't like them one single iota, are not the idiots continually portrayed on here, they are multi millionaires looking to promote and expand their brand.

The only way to do that is in the PL.

How many people who completely deride and insult them on here are self made multi millionaires?

The problem is that Venky's come from a totally different culture and most certainly don't understand our culture any better than we understand theirs.

They don't, or didn't understand our passion for Rovers, that must have come as an incredible shock to them, especially when things started going wrong.

They won't react favourably to the bile and insults because they are not used to being questioned or threatened, so they will withdraw deeper, become even more insular.

But they won't give up because to do so would mean a huge loss of face, something their culture simply will not allow. That is almost certainly why it took so long to get rid of Kean, because he was appointed by them..

They didn't personally appoint Berg so sacking him wasn't a problem.

Know and understand your enemy, it's the only way to beat them.

Spoken like a true and realistic gent Mr Owd Nick.

Arte et labore

Thank you kind sir

Here we go,it's Thursday again.Some cracking excuses on here tonight,excuses for not going on Saturday.

handyamBRFC wrote:
back to the footy.....111

I think most of us know which players we would like see move on at BRFC.

But who do we want in playing....!!

Ok, I think we should make recomendations to BRFC as we're football fans and we see or hear of players doing well. I'm sure we know a player or two out there in the Football league who in their opinion good be a good player for BRFC.

Lets start pointing out the players in the lower leagues who could be good signings for Rovers.
Tony McMahon Shfld utd
Andrew Haliday Midbrgh

who is .......Tony McMahon...??

if we need a good young defender who is tough and has ability then maybe you should consider Tony McMahon who is at Sheffield utd but ex Middbrg.

have a look...!!
I think we should go for him
hes a full back, strong, tough and has scored goals

Andrew haliday
tough strong and young


take a look and let us all know”

I think we have enough lower league standard players at Ewood thank you. That is part of the problem - and definitely not the solution. Are you their agent by any chance?

BRFC

An absolute F@cking shambles, forget theory's just look at the facts,

Both these lads will try the hardest of that I am sure until a manager is found, the one that was signing on New Years Day has got lost!!

The new manager comes in at the end of January and cannot buy any players so what had changed at BRFC

Nothing absolutely nothing, Venkys will not have spent the promised 5 million per transfer window yet again.

Venkys you are a disgrace as owners of BRFC, IMO you are assett strippers at best.

Shebby you sir are a joke/puppett of the Venkys, you have no idea how to run a football club, you also would not know the truth if it stared you in the face,

All of you just get out of BRFC NOW.

baldie wrote:
Here we go,it's Thursday again.Some cracking excuses on here tonight,excuses for not going on Saturday.

no excuses, just a fact, never goin back again to Ewood until the venkys pisoff back to India, I will go to away games. My money, my cash, my support, Over a 1000 matches over the years. This is the longest I have remained from Ewood in 40 years. We have a right to disagree with what is going on. We have been badly run, had bad players, managers & coaches over the years, but nothing on this scale. :-(

stefjam wrote:

baldie wrote:
Here we go,it's Thursday again.Some cracking excuses on here tonight,excuses for not going on Saturday.

no excuses, just a fact, never goin back again to Ewood until the venkys pisoff back to India, I will go to away games. My money, my cash, my support, Over a 1000 matches over the years. This is the longest I have remained from Ewood in 40 years. We have a right to disagree with what is going on. We have been badly run, had bad players, managers & coaches over the years, but nothing on this scale. :-(

Are Venky's suffering because you stay away?

Do they know you exist?.....sorry but they don't.

Not being nasty but the only person suffering is you, because you actually want to go to Ewood but your stubborn pride won't allow it.

So please carry on going to away games and give your hard earned to our opponents,

In the great scheme of things Venky's, Shebby and the rest are irrelevant, you, like me are either a Rovers supporter or not, that's all that matters through thick and thin.

And our team needs us down at Ewood.

Must try to add up how many games I have been to since 1972, rough calculation about 1500 and that's just the home games.

And chicken farmers, clowns and doomsayers are not going to stop me going, already got my tickets for Saturday and looking forward to it.

We are yet to find out if this transfer policy is ss's personal decision, if it is the venkys then they should say so publically, instead of hiding behind ss, if funds are not available then fair enough, i can understand that, what doesnt make sense is how is that stopping rovers from wheeling and dealing, allow the manager raise funds for new players. Maybe thats why they delayed appointing a new manager, ss would deny them full control on transfers.

Every other club manages to get a new manager in by less than 2 weeks why should it take more than a month to find the next manager, when there a queue of managers ready, if a new manager is going to come soon they will want some of their own players and staff, if venky are prepared to do what it takes (like they promised) to ensure rovers get promoted they have to get in early and forget these stalling tactics its unfair on the caretaker, the players and the fans.

I really do think that Venkys want to get us back into the Premiere League but by spending as little or no money as possible. Having listened to Kazs interview on the way home from the game on Tuesday it sounds as though the players have a lot of respect for Gary Bowyer and having watched the performance it seems like this is a man they want to play for. We have got ourselves a good goalkeeper now who is also very vocal which is something I don't feel Robbo was, we have also got Leon Best coming back to the team soon so once a few of the dead legs have been offloaded why cant we improve and get back where we belong!!
Let's get behind the team and new temporary manager and show them how proud we are of our beloved club.
We have to be positive.....
COYB

owd nick wrote:

stefjam wrote:

baldie wrote:
Here we go,it's Thursday again.Some cracking excuses on here tonight,excuses for not going on Saturday.

no excuses, just a fact, never goin back again to Ewood until the venkys pisoff back to India, I will go to away games. My money, my cash, my support, Over a 1000 matches over the years. This is the longest I have remained from Ewood in 40 years. We have a right to disagree with what is going on. We have been badly run, had bad players, managers & coaches over the years, but nothing on this scale. :-(

Are Venky's suffering because you stay away?

Do they know you exist?.....sorry but they don't.

Not being nasty but the only person suffering is you, because you actually want to go to Ewood but your stubborn pride won't allow it.

So please carry on going to away games and give your hard earned to our opponents,

In the great scheme of things Venky's, Shebby and the rest are irrelevant, you, like me are either a Rovers supporter or not, that's all that matters through thick and thin.

And our team needs us down at Ewood.

Must try to add up how many games I have been to since 1972, rough calculation about 1500 and that's just the home games.

And chicken farmers, clowns and doomsayers are not going to stop me going, already got my tickets for Saturday and looking forward to it.

Amen, owd nick.

passingfootball wrote:
Every other club manages to get a new manager in by less than 2 weeks why should it take more than a month to find the next manager, when there a queue of managers ready, if a new manager is going to come soon they will want some of their own players and staff, if venky are prepared to do what it takes (like they promised) to ensure rovers get promoted they have to get in early and forget these stalling tactics its unfair on the caretaker, the players and the fans.

Because they are not as stupid as painted on here.

The majority of fans appear to want Mark Hughes back, I do, but his "people" have made it very clear that he isn't even remotely interested.

That basically means that any appointment made will be 2nd, 3rd or even worse choice in the eyes of the fans, and the doomsayers amongst the fans will be looking for the first error, or defeat to start their tirades again.

In my humble opinion , If or when we don't go up this season, our parasitic owners will hang on only untill they get their grubby fingers on as much of the parachute payment installment and remaining assets at the club as they can , then they'll be off before the sh#t really does hit the fan , I've thought it was a strong possibilty for a long time,but talk of six month contracts with performance related clauses has removed any doubts i may have had..... R.T.I.D. Since 1969

R.T.I.D since 1972 and still counting.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Since all those years ago in 1995 B******* decline has been irriversible.

Just look at the standing of managers since then. It tracks the fall from when Walker bought them a bit of glory (fans proclaimed that Man Utd were their rivals!!!!!)-

Dalglish

Hodgson

Hughes

Big Sam

Kean

Berg


Whoever they get, B****** will be adopting the "we have the god - given right to still be in the Premier League. We hound out whoever doesnt guarantee us Champions League football. Even the current England manager was given the hate, bile and venom we like to dish out!"

"We want our club back" is the cry

Well they're getting it back.

Back to the mid-table "Chumpionship" (at best) non-entities with gates of around 8000.

BRKFC - NO MANAGER'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.

the only bile on here is you mate
no brains no class just more drivel
from a chinless burnley fan

baldie wrote:

owd nick wrote:

stefjam wrote:

baldie wrote:
Here we go,it's Thursday again.Some cracking excuses on here tonight,excuses for not going on Saturday.

no excuses, just a fact, never goin back again to Ewood until the venkys pisoff back to India, I will go to away games. My money, my cash, my support, Over a 1000 matches over the years. This is the longest I have remained from Ewood in 40 years. We have a right to disagree with what is going on. We have been badly run, had bad players, managers & coaches over the years, but nothing on this scale. :-(

Are Venky's suffering because you stay away?

Do they know you exist?.....sorry but they don't.

Not being nasty but the only person suffering is you, because you actually want to go to Ewood but your stubborn pride won't allow it.

So please carry on going to away games and give your hard earned to our opponents,

In the great scheme of things Venky's, Shebby and the rest are irrelevant, you, like me are either a Rovers supporter or not, that's all that matters through thick and thin.

And our team needs us down at Ewood.

Must try to add up how many games I have been to since 1972, rough calculation about 1500 and that's just the home games.

And chicken farmers, clowns and doomsayers are not going to stop me going, already got my tickets for Saturday and looking forward to it.

Amen, owd nick.

Excellent post. When things look their bleakest, swallow your hurt and support your club that much more. Venky's are just absent passengers; BRFC will always belong to its fans.

owd nick wrote:

whappen wrote:

owd nick wrote:

bigste wrote: Have to agree that not letting a new manager sign any players at all is going to make the short list very short indeed. bObvious to me that venkys are cutting their lossies and have no real belief in premier league football. They have blown it, end of.

The PL is the Golden Goose, just by getting promoted and relegated clubs pick up in the region of £50 million plus parachute payments, just for one season. That would offset any losses. Venky's, like them or not, and I don't like them one single iota, are not the idiots continually portrayed on here, they are multi millionaires looking to promote and expand their brand. The only way to do that is in the PL. How many people who completely deride and insult them on here are self made multi millionaires? The problem is that Venky's come from a totally different culture and most certainly don't understand our culture any better than we understand theirs. They don't, or didn't understand our passion for Rovers, that must have come as an incredible shock to them, especially when things started going wrong. They won't react favourably to the bile and insults because they are not used to being questioned or threatened, so they will withdraw deeper, become even more insular. But they won't give up because to do so would mean a huge loss of face, something their culture simply will not allow. That is almost certainly why it took so long to get rid of Kean, because he was appointed by them.. They didn't personally appoint Berg so sacking him wasn't a problem. Know and understand your enemy, it's the only way to beat them.

" self made multi millionaires"? FYI they inherited the company.

Point totally missed.

Just one little point, that's all.

They may be successful in their own industry but that doesn't mean they know how to run a business in another totally unrelated one. In terms of running a football club it is fair comment to call them stupid. It kind of covers naive, inept and, to a lesser degree, irresponsible.

Thought the rest was a touch patronising to be honest.

BRFC75 wrote:
Rovers supporters have been asking what HENDRY does now at Rovers since Steve Kean departed ? Well Steve Kean and Singh gave Hendry a 3 year contract of 8,000 pounds a week ,yes unbelievable a three year contract on 8,000 pounds a week, as defensive coach ,more that probably 80% of the managers in the championship/ then HENDRY got himself demoted to assistant manager to Gary Bowyer of the reserves ,Gary earns 1,200 pounds a week , his assisitant Hendry is on 8k a week ,crazy, anyway since Gary has been looking after the first team , we hear Phillips is mainly doing the reserves now , Hendry is back driving for a living but not his old drinking pal Steve Kean ,but for Shebby Singh , Hendry has been seen driving Shebby the snake around for the last few days , wow !!! who would not drive a car around for 8,000 pounds a week , Shebby o.k`d that wage packet for Hendry ,so he has got to use him in any capacity he see`s fit.

When you can scan and post a copy of Hendry's Contract or payslip you might be taken seriously. Until then, please stop spreading this ridiculous nonsense.

back to the footy.....111

I think most of us know which players we would like see move on at BRFC.

But who do we want in playing....!!

Ok, I think we should make recomendations to BRFC as we're football fans and we see or hear of players doing well. I'm sure we know a player or two out there in the Football league who in their opinion good be a good player for BRFC.

Lets start pointing out the players in the lower leagues who could be good signings for Rovers.
Tony McMahon Shfld utd
Andrew Haliday Midbrgh

who is .......Tony McMahon...??

if we need a good young defender who is tough and has ability then maybe you should consider Tony McMahon who is at Sheffield utd but ex Middbrg.

have a look...!!
I think we should go for him
hes a full back, strong, tough and has scored goals

Andrew haliday
tough strong and young

Dear Mr Gary B...
ok....back to the footy.....!!!

I think most of us know which players are moving on at BRFC.
But who do we want in playing....!!

I'm sure we know a player or two out there in the Football leagues who in their opinion good be a good player for BRFC.

Lets start pointing out the good players in the who could be good signings for Rovers.

Liverpool reserves.....
Player name: Jon Flanagan
Date of birth: 21 Jan 1993
Nationality: English

Position: Defender

livepl res
Player name: Jack Robinson
Date of birth: 1 Sep 1993
Nationality: English

Position: Defender

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Player name: Wilson Palacios
Date of birth: 29 Jul 1984
Nationality: Hondura
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Position: Midfielder


A villa
Player name: Ron Vlaar
Date of birth: 16 Feb 1985
Nationality: Dutch
Position: Defender

WBA
Player name: Graham Dorrans
Date of birth: 5 May 1987
Nationality: Scottis
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Position: Midfielder


and also consider...
Tony McMahon Shfld utd
Andrew Haliday Midbrgh

if we need a good young defender who is tough and has ability then maybe you should consider some of the above.

have a look...!!
I think we should go for some of these

or maybe you have some in mind...!!!