Black wants a Rovers boss decision (From Lancashire Telegraph)

roversok wrote:
“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us

Blueblood95 wrote:
Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight.

dangerous dave wrote:
As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry.
Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone.
Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further.
Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts.
Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks.
I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation. I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take. Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim. What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive.

roversok wrote:
“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation.
I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take.
Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim.
What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive.

ewoodcow wrote:
I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager.

I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers.

The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!!

Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?

Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?

mellorb&w wrote:

Blueblood95 wrote: Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight.

I'm inclined to believe what you say but today is a match day and I think we should set aside our justifiable anger and get down to Ewood tonight and get behind the team. It's vital we get a win tonight. Air all grievances tomorrow by all means but be supporters today.

dangerous dave wrote:
As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry.
Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone.
Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further.
Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts.
Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks.
I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS

French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!

philmoulden wrote:
Do not patronise the Rovers fans , playing childish games with us shebby and black , i feel your stupid move for mckinlay was a ploy to get fans to think that we might as well keep black , now go and get a real football manager , you are pathetic sheddy , a clown trying kidology with the SUPPORTERS .

Rovers 1495 wrote:
"but Rovers are believed to be examining ways of providing a stop-gap until Solskjaer is available"

So has he been contacted ? Has he replied ? Have his club knocked the request into touch ? What does this phrase actually mean ?

A Darener wrote:
Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager!

Jack Herer wrote:

dangerous dave wrote: As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry. Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone. Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further. Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts. Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks. I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS

So you are holding out for new owners? Good luck, because no one wants us. They never did either, the Walker trust were desperate to sell us but no one wanted us. How many years till you are back at Ewood do you think? Are you looking forward to a hate filled existence as you rant in the meanwhile?

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!

ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

greenscreener wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager!

Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from.

Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager.

jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!

ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.

A Darener wrote:

greenscreener wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager!

Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from.

Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager.

My point was, from experience of this regime, whatever comes out of Ewood Park think the opposite!

Steve BB2 wrote:

roversok wrote:
“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us

Bolton already have a new manager and Burnley have been doing ok without one ! (unfortunately!)
We havent got one and are not doing well without one, so maybe the backroom staff are not that good. Maybe when we get a new man in then he can bring some competent staff into the club.
Sounds good in theory but will it happen or will we just get another coach to try their hand at management and fail again, like SK?

makaveli96 wrote:

jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.

Real fans don't sit in the Riverside!

Its an old mans stand for the middle class.

The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end!

Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out!

Riverside 7 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!

ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.

Sorry FR but that is not correct.
I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince.
They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans.
As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job.
As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.

Riverside 7 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!

ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.

Sorry FR but that is not correct.
I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince.
They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans.
As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job.
As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.

greenscreener wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.

Real fans don't sit in the Riverside!

Its an old mans stand for the middle class.

The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end!

Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out!

Real fans sit in the Bernabeu.

French Rover wrote:

Riverside 7 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!

ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.

Sorry FR but that is not correct.
I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince.
They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans.
As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job.
As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.

Maybe you are correct on that - though a bit surprised that they would be influenced by a fan survey - but if you are correct then that proves the point that I was making above - that a club should not appoint a manager just to please their fans. They should go ahead and make the appointment of the man they think is best for the job.

Jack Herer wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?

Jesus we've got some moaning fans.

"He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way".

Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is.

Jack Herer wrote:

Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?

Jesus we've got some moaning fans.

"He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way".

Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is.

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.

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YarkshahRover wrote:
John Williams could have taught him a thing or two.

garydavies2304 wrote:

ewoodcow wrote:
I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager.

I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers.

The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!!

just my thoughts fans cannot run a club

Gaz M wrote:

YarkshahRover wrote:
John Williams could have taught him a thing or two.

I defy anyone to polish a t*rd !

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.

how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!

A Darener wrote:
Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games.

Get into em!!!
Good luck tonight!

mudshark wrote:
no2s shoved up to number 1s have never worked, ie, hartford, kidd ,kean, speed up the search by eliminating any no 2s

French Rover wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games.

Get into em!!!
Good luck tonight!

well said Darener.....you found that bottle of optimism then :)

blueblooded wrote:
Don't be fooled by Singh's silky smooth tongue, fan discontentment will have been the least of his worries. Our Shebby believes he has what it takes to turn an inexperienced manager from coach to the next Mourinho and if we hadnt been turned down by both clubs, either Sherwood or McKinlay would be announced soon.

As it stands, Holloway is now the hot ticket of the day again.

raflas wrote:
Q) Would any self respecting manager take orders from Shebby Singh?
Q) Could anyone work under Shebby Singh?

Why doesn't he just cut out the middle man and employ himself. It seems he wants to make all the decisions anyway, despite having no football experience apart from being a comedy pundit on ESPN. He is 66/1 with Victor Chandler - Get on!

No Leadership whatsoever - Our once great club is doomed.

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.

how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!

it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.

Bryan Douglas supporter wrote:
“We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric.

Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end?

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this is what venkys think of the fans

Oh my word. I would rather have the Chuckle Brothers running my club than this set of clowns. What a joke of a football club.

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.

how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!

it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.

are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.

how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!

it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.

are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.

ronnie clayton wrote:

mellorb&w wrote:

Bryan Douglas supporter wrote:
“We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric.

Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end?

Can someone explain the this hatred towards Black. What exactly has he done to deserve it? To me he is a coach who was offered a job and took it. Is it his fault that he was hired by that scumbag Kean ? OK, we might not want him as manager but just don't understand the hatred.

mellor b&w posted a comment saying he cant understand the hatred towards Black.
Hatred towards Black !!!!! , I don`t think his comment about "Steve Kean deserving a medal for putting up with the Rovers fans" doesnt help his cause .

But you are correct , but we feel he is a cheap option for the Venky`s as manager and he probably is getting a unfair brunt of it , we need a experienced manager not a coach not a ex Rovers player ,a manager thats been round the block .
The first thing a experienced manager will do will kick out the bludgers ,get the players in double training sessions get them fit, and create a buzz within the club.

greenscreener wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.

how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!

it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.

are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.

FR, personally I wish I was over there with a bottle of bordeaux (can't bring myself to call it claret) as it seems like you are having more than your share this week !

its clear to me, currently sober, that without even having an interview Mckinlay was already as unpopular a choice as Kean, guilty by association and lack of experence. He was on nobodys list and was only supported by people who thought he should be given a chance because he wasn't actually Kean. Not his fault but I think he's dodged a bullet there.
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no ney never wrote:
If owen coyle had not been burnley's manager would you consider him?
He did the business for us and only left because flood could no longer put the money into the club which coyle had been promised because the credit crunch affected floods business.
Losing 2 players at the start of a season to broken legs and another collapsing on the pitch, in addition to having to cut the wage bill, meant coyle was always up against it at bolton. It was simply a bad time for anyone to be manager of bolton and could have been anyone in charge during that period.
Of course he'll always be judas for walking out on us, but with your squad to work with, i would be straight down the bookies with £50 on you to win this league if he is appointed.

Terry's of Burnley

dangerous dave wrote:
As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry.
Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone.
Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further.
Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts.
Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks.
I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS

bornindarwenliveinno
ttm wrote:
Paul Jewell anyone? Got both Bradford and Wigan promoted to the premier league so has the experience. Not the most exciting prospect I know, but he';s a proper manager who we can get behind. He's out of work as from today so no compensation and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance of working closer to home with a squad capbable of pushing for promotion. Go get in Shebby!

peely wrote:

greenscreener wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.

Real fans don't sit in the Riverside!

Its an old mans stand for the middle class.

The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end!

Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out!

Real fans sit in the Bernabeu.

Real fans stand in t'enclosure !