Blackburn Rovers blog: Protesters doing nothing to help club’s image (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Stepford supporters, whilst I agree with you about the protests being wrong and counterproductive, you can't expect people to turn up with their colgate smiles and max headroom faces like an episode from rainbow, ooh we know a song about that don't we geoffrey, with all that is going on. thats just plain, no pun intended, daft.
Granted the team needs the fans before and during a game, but after they should be able to say what they feel is correct, even if I disagree with it.
But what I do disagree with is that anyone who shares the opinion that we will turn it round and things will get better, is targeted as some form of secret agent against the protest and kean out witchunt, not to mention being called morons etc. This is just plain, no pun intended, dumb. Some of us can see and feel we have enough to get out of this mess and some on here see and feel we haven't. Such is life. At the end of the day we are all Rovers fans so before and during a game we should be supporting them. And some of the anti kean witchunt mob comments on here are a bit embarrassing, I'm suprised they have computers.

whilst i think some of that is a bit harsh towards some of the protesting fans, on the whole i agree with the article. for me, the lack of respect in much of the day to day posting is genuinely horrible and smacks of cowardly mob mentality.
i think it's right to challenge the use of luck as an excuse, whether or not i agree with us having been unlucky. it's always going to be extremely subjective.
what i do feel, though, is that the poor attitude of fans in and around the match is clearly affecting players (they have said so). it will also affect the manager's performance too. some may chuckle sarcastically at that, but this is an already pressurised role being made much worse by the constant criticism. yes, his record is poor, but he is infinitely more qualified to be in charge of rovers than any one of us on here. and just as importantly, he is clearly working his socks off within an extremely chaotic situation. that deserves at the very least a respectful criticism.
as for the owners, i genuinely believe they want to build something good here. i don't 'know' that, obviously, so won't claim that to be fact. it means change, and i for one am not against that if there is sense and enthusiasm about it.

Here Dan, let me fix this for you: "Although they have good intentions deep down, VENKYS are helping to turn our club into a laughing stock."

Pretty much what the flat earthers have been saying for a while now, lets just hope it's not to late! If he is here to stay there's only one way of staying up this season, that's the crowd at every home game being the 12th man! Just like when BFS was in charge, remember that............?

I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Why are we bothered about "Image"!

Why should we try to impress "outsiders"?

We are BLACKBURN!

The rest doesnt matter!

RobbyRover has it exactly right, Dan, and I'm afraid your "analysis" of the situation shows that you really haven't much of a clue as to what has been going on at Ewood during the past year.
You said on Twitter you expected to get a lot of stick for your column and if you do, you'll deserve every little bit of it.
Wake up and open your eyes, man!

makaveli96 wrote:
Why are we bothered about "Image"! Why should we try to impress "outsiders"? We are BLACKBURN! The rest doesnt matter!

Absolutely! Being taken for clowns is not very good for OUR image either!!!!

Dan, its like if an American firm owned the LET???

It should be Blackburn people for Blackburn Rovers. Like Blackburn people for the LET.

nebulacharge wrote:
Here Dan, let me fix this for you: "Although they have good intentions deep down, VENKYS are helping to turn our club into a laughing stock."

Spot on. The loons from Pune are the ones who have turned our club into a joke not the protesters. They have caused the damage, sacking Sam and employing this fool. The driving ban incident is relevant as he lied to the police and the court thus rendering other statements by him less than credible. And as for turning up and sitting there like grinning idiots against Swansea whilst we lose again, I'd suggest anyone who does that really doesn't care if we get relegated. Venkys caused this and only they can put it right.

Truly awful article Dan and even though I agree the demos should stop now.

They Venky's made us a laughing stock no-more so than having the players appear in a chicken adverts?

Perhaps it's easier for 'journalists' to write such articles rather than explain the sacking of John Jensen which even Kean said he knew nothing about.

Your right performances have improved under Paul Clements training. Kean is not fit for the job, Simple as that

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Very well said.

How dare people label those protesting as damaging to Blackburn Rovers? The only ones doing the damage are those idiots that own the club. EVERY decision they have made in the last 12 months has been poor. Their biggest mistake was buying the club in the first place.

If you are a supporter and you spend hours and hours each week earning enough money to travel the length of the country supporting the club you have loved your entire life, then you are perfectly entitled to boo, protest and do whatever else you feel like if, like me, you are not satisfied with 6 wins in 11 months.

Looks like they've got to Dan, surely that's the only explanation! He cant possibly have a different opinion to half the people on here so that's it, it's official DAN CLOUGH is on the venkys pay roll............

nether are you LET. your our towns news paper but your idiot reportersare crapless spineles priks and won't speak out for your team.

are you being paid are shafted be venkys

You are so wrong on this Dan. What are the Rovers fans supposed to do? Steve Kean has been in charge for nearly any entire season and has only won six games. Six! If it were any other club, the fans would be going through the roof. They would have been protesting and a whole lot more. We've seen how the United, Liverpool and Newcastle fans reacted to their owners and no one thought that it was embarrassing. Why is this any different. Because it's little Rovers, people think that we shouldn't be getting too upset as we've been spoiled to have been in the league so long and to have had the success that we've had. At the end of the season, when Steve Kean has taken us down, what will you say then? Should we just stand by and watch our club been taken into the abyss by a guy who clearly isn't up to the job and by owners who have no connection to the club or town and live 4000 miles away?
Rovers fans support the team and the club. That's why they are doing this because they see what is happening. People who just sit by, cover their eyes or look the other way and hope that things get better, are the real problem.
As for the comments about making us a laughing stock, don't you think that Venky's and Steve Kean have done that already to Rovers, by taking one of best run clubs in the Premiership, trying to sign Ronaldhino and Beckham to sell some shirts, making ridiculous statements on how we are going to qualify for Europe and the endless positive that comes from the worst manager in the history of the club? Wake up and see what's going on. We are on the verge of collapse. Performances may be getting better (which is a relative term) but we still aren't winning games. If Kean stays we get relegated and the owners will be out the door quicker their chickens fleeing the chop and we won't be seeing Rovers in the Premier League for some time.
The embarrassment that the protesters may have caused is nothing in comparison to what the owners and manager have done to the club.

"It’s not just about his record, although no doubt you will argue it is."

There's no need to argue, the facts speak for themselves.

Please ignore my previous post I just realised Dan is trying to get a reaction.

How else can you explain his's idiotic defence of Kean's driving-driving with this classic "which of you protesting on the terraces is without a driving ban or points on your licence?"

Remember Dan's previous blog "Youth is a reason to stay positive?" Another masterstroke of winding-fans up by aping Kean's "positive's" from a totally unnecessary relegation fight.

As with all disagreements it needs both parties to work together, yes the fans should stop the demos but Kean and the Venky's have to stop winding people up with nonsense about 'luck', top-10, and "positives'.

dan your as clueless as the owners and manager what they have done to our club in a year is an absloute disgrace totally lack of man management on and off the field . if things were being run right off the field and the team getting results on on there wouldnt be any protests this lot rode into town full of false promises allowed good loyal club men to leave have backed a manager who took us to within a game of relagationj and has continued in that form

I think protests ARE about Steve Kean's record as manager. If we were in the top 10 no one would even care about his drink driving conviction.

My concerns for Kean aren't just about the current situation but the long term future of the club under his management as he has shown in the summer he is not capable of building a team that will compete in the premier league.

As for telling supporters how to behave. Don't we pay to go to the games??!! So not only do i pay to watch a failing team, with a dreadful manager its also the supporters fault that our club is a laughing stock.

"DanCloughLT Dan Clough
Love being told I don't know what's going on at #Rovers by fans. Because I work at the LT doesn't mean I'm not just a fan on the terrace!"

I would suggest that's a consequence of telling fans, in a rather patronising way, how to behave on matchdays.

You also said you expected some stick, so don't moan about it! It's a consequence of telling people what to do. I'd advise not to give it out if you can't take it Dan!

Never mind so called mindless supporters bringing the image of the club into disrepute, they have every right to protest and any way they think fit. It's Venkys damaging Rovers image continuing to employ Donut Kean, who might have good coaching skills and can spot talent, BUT HE IS NOT A MANAGER. The sooner Venkys realise this the better, bring experience to the club in the form of an EXPERIENCED MANAGER, failing this we are surely doomed. So start to blame THE OWNERS , NOT THE SUPPORTERS. !!!!!!

Never mind so called mindless supporters bringing the image of the club into disrepute, they have every right to protest and any way they think fit. It's Venkys damaging Rovers image continuing to employ Donut Kean, who might have good coaching skills and can spot talent, BUT HE IS NOT A MANAGER. The sooner Venkys realise this the better, bring experience to the club in the form of an EXPERIENCED MANAGER, failing this we are surely doomed. So start to blame THE OWNERS , NOT THE SUPPORTERS. !!!!!!

The club was made a laughing stock the moment Venkys sacked Sam and appointed a coach with no managerial experience at all

Which of you protesting on the terraces Is without a driving ban or points on your licence,one of the pictures I saw of some banner holding people and surrounding supporters didn't look old enough to be able to qualify for the above.

Kean out the drink driver he been given a chance,and we going down with him so what's the point in writing this blog mate.

Apathy - that is what you are asking for.

Passion - express your feelings - that is what football is about.

The protesters have passion and up to now have been the most vocal in supporting the team during the games - the TEAM - not kean.

Most of us will be at Wigan - supporting the team.

And if we lose will we boo kean - you bet we will.

Because we care.

Because we have passion.

How dare you tell us what to do.

Already many have given up and have stopped attending - about 4,000.

They are not booing kean.

They are not protesting.

They will not be at Wigan.


Next season there will be alot of them.

juanbbien wrote:
Which of you protesting on the terraces Is without a driving ban or points on your licence,one of the pictures I saw of some banner holding people and surrounding supporters didn't look old enough to be able to qualify for the above.

If I was back in Blackburn I would be protesting on the terraces and I don´t have points on my licence nor have I ever drunk and drove. The man is inept. 28 points taken from 32 games a win percentage of 18.75%, the worst manager in Rovers history. Thats why he needs to go.

This piece is clearly written to provoke, through using Mr Clough's opinion and passing it off as fact.
The facts are; We were a medium sized club with very good long serving backroom staff.
We had a rich history, some recent success, but mainly historical.
We were sold to a company who didn't know about football, and showed very little interest in past and present footballing tradition.
We had our reasonably successful Manager removed and replaced with a rookie. This Rookie was then after what was supposed to be a trial period, given a long term contact,even though the trial was inconclusive.
We had our backbone of staff removed and some strangers to English football instated.
We were promised lots of ready money to spend in the transfer window just passed,but actually brought more in and failed to address full back and pedigree striker problem.
Had a very poor end to last season, went into freefall,with a poor record of results.
Started this season the same,with some fresh blood.
Mr Kean seems to have made some poor substitutions, and ommissions, for what reason, I don't know.
Mr Kean has repeatedly talked about football matches that no one else has seen.
We were told after dreadful results, that Mr Kean was an amazing Manager, by the owners.
Mr Kean continues to say we are about to climb the league, even though he has the least Managerial experience in this league.
We have been given statements saying that Rovers will soon be a top four team,later denied.
I'm sure there are many more tragic events, that are yet to come to full light given the lack of communication between club and fans, and I've probably missed a few obvious ones,but there is very little to be pleased about, and certainly something to worry about, so don't tell paying fans how to behave as if that would turn this lot of calamities around.

This piece is clearly written to provoke, through using Mr Clough's opinion and passing it off as fact.
The facts are; We were a medium sized club with very good long serving backroom staff.
We had a rich history, some recent success, but mainly historical.
We were sold to a company who didn't know about football, and showed very little interest in past and present footballing tradition.
We had our reasonably successful Manager removed and replaced with a rookie. This Rookie was then after what was supposed to be a trial period, given a long term contact,even though the trial was inconclusive.
We had our backbone of staff removed and some strangers to English football instated.
We were promised lots of ready money to spend in the transfer window just passed,but actually brought more in and failed to address full back and pedigree striker problem.
Had a very poor end to last season, went into freefall,with a poor record of results.
Started this season the same,with some fresh blood.
Mr Kean seems to have made some poor substitutions, and ommissions, for what reason, I don't know.
Mr Kean has repeatedly talked about football matches that no one else has seen.
We were told after dreadful results, that Mr Kean was an amazing Manager, by the owners.
Mr Kean continues to say we are about to climb the league, even though he has the least Managerial experience in this league.
We have been given statements saying that Rovers will soon be a top four team,later denied.
I'm sure there are many more tragic events, that are yet to come to full light given the lack of communication between club and fans, and I've probably missed a few obvious ones,but there is very little to be pleased about, and certainly something to worry about, so don't tell paying fans how to behave as if that would turn this lot of calamities around.

When some companies take out advertising space in Newspapers they are offered "free" editorial write-ups.

Im not stating this is the fact here, just that "buttering" up goes on.

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

A balanced reasonable response to your article, Dan. There are crazy people who are the ones on your mind, I think, such as multiple posters, those who never talk about football, and those so full of hate it makes you cringe. But the majority are reasonable, like RobbyRover.
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From what I have read, the protests have been very orderly and without trouble. I haven't seen them because I did not renew my season ticket - which is my protest, I decided to vote with my feet against Kean because he did nothing positive in the transfer window to give me confidence that I would get value for money by attending the games. His words and actions have shown me clearly that he is not in control of himself and therefore should not be in control of Blackburn Rovers. Those who bought season tickets have every right to protest because they feel, as I feel, that it is Kean who has made this club a laughing stock.

gleechy wrote:
This piece is clearly written to provoke, through using Mr Clough's opinion and passing it off as fact.
The facts are; We were a medium sized club with very good long serving backroom staff.
We had a rich history, some recent success, but mainly historical.
We were sold to a company who didn't know about football, and showed very little interest in past and present footballing tradition.
We had our reasonably successful Manager removed and replaced with a rookie. This Rookie was then after what was supposed to be a trial period, given a long term contact,even though the trial was inconclusive.
We had our backbone of staff removed and some strangers to English football instated.
We were promised lots of ready money to spend in the transfer window just passed,but actually brought more in and failed to address full back and pedigree striker problem.
Had a very poor end to last season, went into freefall,with a poor record of results.
Started this season the same,with some fresh blood.
Mr Kean seems to have made some poor substitutions, and ommissions, for what reason, I don't know.
Mr Kean has repeatedly talked about football matches that no one else has seen.
We were told after dreadful results, that Mr Kean was an amazing Manager, by the owners.
Mr Kean continues to say we are about to climb the league, even though he has the least Managerial experience in this league.
We have been given statements saying that Rovers will soon be a top four team,later denied.
I'm sure there are many more tragic events, that are yet to come to full light given the lack of communication between club and fans, and I've probably missed a few obvious ones,but there is very little to be pleased about, and certainly something to worry about, so don't tell paying fans how to behave as if that would turn this lot of calamities around.

Stop on.

riversidefan wrote:

gleechy wrote:
This piece is clearly written to provoke, through using Mr Clough's opinion and passing it off as fact.
The facts are; We were a medium sized club with very good long serving backroom staff.
We had a rich history, some recent success, but mainly historical.
We were sold to a company who didn't know about football, and showed very little interest in past and present footballing tradition.
We had our reasonably successful Manager removed and replaced with a rookie. This Rookie was then after what was supposed to be a trial period, given a long term contact,even though the trial was inconclusive.
We had our backbone of staff removed and some strangers to English football instated.
We were promised lots of ready money to spend in the transfer window just passed,but actually brought more in and failed to address full back and pedigree striker problem.
Had a very poor end to last season, went into freefall,with a poor record of results.
Started this season the same,with some fresh blood.
Mr Kean seems to have made some poor substitutions, and ommissions, for what reason, I don't know.
Mr Kean has repeatedly talked about football matches that no one else has seen.
We were told after dreadful results, that Mr Kean was an amazing Manager, by the owners.
Mr Kean continues to say we are about to climb the league, even though he has the least Managerial experience in this league.
We have been given statements saying that Rovers will soon be a top four team,later denied.
I'm sure there are many more tragic events, that are yet to come to full light given the lack of communication between club and fans, and I've probably missed a few obvious ones,but there is very little to be pleased about, and certainly something to worry about, so don't tell paying fans how to behave as if that would turn this lot of calamities around.

Stop on.

Spot on! :D

To be honest I'm sick of the protests, sick of excuses, sick of the flak we are getting and do know what ? we are starting to turn on each other now, in 48 years of following this club it's fracturing right in front of our eyes, I have to ask myself what do you do when all else fails, pray ?? because it seems that is all that there is left.
I just hope that all the folk who say that 'pulling together' are right and that we come out of this still a premier league side and Rovers can re-group and once again be in the right half of the table each season, but if pulling together doesn't work, some people will have to hang their heads in shame for allowing Rovers to go under without as much as whimper, players, directors, and especially Steve Kean for seeing the Iceberg, and not taking evasive action.

If you sack kean get mark h or some one else it doesn't work are you all going to want him out are will you blame venkys then look give the man till jan wot he said him self and if we are in the **** then he has to go but as fans get behinde the team manager and be one come where blackburn rovers not man u stick together as one and we will be ok 3 0 rovers next game up the rovers till I die wot ever fukin league we are in

Dan, at the Spurs game we, the Rovers fans, got behind the team from the first whistle to the last. I think we all appreciate that the players are giving their all for a win, and no-one wants to see us in the position we're in...

I live outside Blackburn, and I can tell you for a fact that all those people down here that gives me stick about being a Rovers fan laugh at me because of the manager and the owners...not because of the fans.

I'm sure the fans of most other clubs would be protesting if they were in our situation. I would argue that to "the English football scene" our fans appear passionate about their club...and worried about the way things are going. One of the best things about the English football scene is everyone's right to have an opinion on their club, and be vocal about that opinion. If the protesters want to chant and hold up banners...let them.

If we don't start winning more points soon, we WILL be relegated. Only points will keep us in the league...and our manager isn't winning us the points. Therefore, I say, something's got to change.

"The only people who can change the atmosphere are the fans"...?? Rubbish. How often have we seen a new manager come into a club and lift the players, the non playing staff and the fans? A change, as they say, is as good as a rest.

And so I add my voice to those saying...Kean out!

And for the record, I've never had a driving ban or points on my licence.

dean :-) wrote:
If you sack kean get mark h or some one else it doesn't work are you all going to want him out are will you blame venkys then look give the man till jan wot he said him self and if we are in the **** then he has to go but as fans get behinde the team manager and be one come where blackburn rovers not man u stick together as one and we will be ok 3 0 rovers next game up the rovers till I die wot ever fukin league we are in

A bit of punctuation wouldn't go amiss. I've translated foreign languages in less time than it took to decipher that mess.

Who the hell does Dan Clough think he is?
Its not the supporters as he suggests that are making our club a laughing stock, but the likes of Steve Kean arrogantly talking rubbish and being allowed to go unchallenged by our local newspaper.
Have you not got any reporters who can ask pertinent questions any more? or do you just accept anything your told by Rovers blindly?
Just remember our club is expecting us to just shut up and keep paying and now its seems so is the Evening Telegraph.
What a disgrace!

dan who ????????

a report trying to divide the fans even more.

spot on dan! but they wont get it! they are only listening to the mighty mullan, our savior! embarrassing!

Well what a jumped up, patronising article. Who the bloody hell is this fella to tell me how to attend a match. Why is there so much negativity? That will be the 6 wins in 32. There is so much nervous tension around Ewood, what does he think the atmosphere will be like? Again, 6 wins in 32 will do that to you. He also condemns people using assumptions as facts, then uses the infamous if and buts line. So is he also assuming that all the protesters are drink drivers or have points on there licence? The bottom line for me, it IS about his record. I can't see it improving, the same way I couldn't with Ince. Kean has had his chance, anything less than a win at Wigan should spell the end. As far as Dan Clough is concerned, well that guy can throw his articles of the end of the pier. An absolute joke.

I think you will find that the club were a laughing stock long before the protests started. Claims of marquee signings Ronaldino, Beckham etc; claims we will be playing champions league football in 4 years etc made us the laughing stock of football.
What I can't understand is how protests by '1%' of the fans has so much of a disruptive effect on the club and players.
If everything in the garden is rosey why do the club have to spend all their efforts trying to discredit this small number of protesters.
Why are they not coming on here telling us how well organised the club management structure is; how well the team is performing; how happy they are with our current position in the league.
I will accept that under Clements performances have improved. But unfortunately all clubs have good and bad patches and if we are currently going through a good patch and not picking up points it is extremely worrying.
The bottom line is the league position does not lie.
I think you will find that the history of football is littered with clubs that are too good to go down; whose manager says they were unlucky; whose manager says he can't fault the players effort; whose maanger says they were the target of bad refereeing decisions etc.
Does this sound familiar.
Kean said judge me after the transfer window closes. Our league record since then is played 8 won 1. He now appears to be saying judge me after the next 6 games.
What will happen then will he say judge me after the January transfer window.
My greatest worry is Kean saying in August judge me after a season in the Championship

one more season wrote:
Who the hell does Dan Clough think he is? Its not the supporters as he suggests that are making our club a laughing stock, but the likes of Steve Kean arrogantly talking rubbish and being allowed to go unchallenged by our local newspaper. Have you not got any reporters who can ask pertinent questions any more? or do you just accept anything your told by Rovers blindly? Just remember our club is expecting us to just shut up and keep paying and now its seems so is the Evening Telegraph. What a disgrace!

Great article, agree with everything said. I keep telling myself not to read the posts attached to the columns, but when I do absolutely sick of the negativity. Time to change the tune.

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Brilliant,can't add anything to that.

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Brilliant,can't add anything to that.

petergray wrote:
Apathy - that is what you are asking for.

Passion - express your feelings - that is what football is about.

The protesters have passion and up to now have been the most vocal in supporting the team during the games - the TEAM - not kean.

Most of us will be at Wigan - supporting the team.

And if we lose will we boo kean - you bet we will.

Because we care.

Because we have passion.

How dare you tell us what to do.

Already many have given up and have stopped attending - about 4,000.

They are not booing kean.

They are not protesting.

They will not be at Wigan.


Next season there will be alot of them.

Well said, you pay your money you are entitled to your opinion.

Don't need some blue collar worker telling what we should or should not do. The total disrespect shown to the fans, as regards to playing loud music so they could not be heard. In my opinion I thought the protesters tried to do it the right way and waited till the match was over.

Then the banning of banners ! Force fans into a corner and they will react obviously what happened to freedom of speech.

What other options was left avaiable to the protesters, after them being drowned out by loud music if you can call it that, and banning banners, hence the plane, just glad as someone else said that it was after the minutes silence.

I would like to add that I am not a protester, but respect their right to be heard, they have been forced into a corner.

Kean should be long gone 6 wins, I didn't like big sams hoofball , but we picked up points here n there, nice football at the moment but points are in very in short supply.
I've been a rovers supporter for over forty years, and never seen fans arguing amongst themselves like this, sometimes it's like your sat with the away fans atmosphere is unpleasant to say the least.

Fans are leaving in droves, and more will follow. Because there concerns are being totally ignored.

On a good note warnock is after Roberts

Coyb

I for one am very proud of the supporters how are protesting. It's not my cup of tea, but I understand they feel something needs to be done.

It is pretty obvious Venkys and Kean are dragging our club down. His record is pathetic and the stats down lie. Venkys have also told lie after lie.

Why can't the LET do some research and get to the bottom of what is going on instead of being so spineless. DAN, I dare you to be a real journalist! Questions for you;

Why are Venkys backing Kean when he has such a dreadful record?

What is Jerome Anderson involvement in our club?

Venkys promised no debt on the club when they purchased. Why have Venkys taken out a mortgage?

and what are the terms of the mortgage?

Why is Myles Anderson at our club?

Why are John Williams, Sam Allardyce and Tom Finn unable to comment on BRFC?

jack01 wrote:

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Very well said.

How dare people label those protesting as damaging to Blackburn Rovers? The only ones doing the damage are those idiots that own the club. EVERY decision they have made in the last 12 months has been poor. Their biggest mistake was buying the club in the first place.

If you are a supporter and you spend hours and hours each week earning enough money to travel the length of the country supporting the club you have loved your entire life, then you are perfectly entitled to boo, protest and do whatever else you feel like if, like me, you are not satisfied with 6 wins in 11 months.

Im a Claret BUT I FEEL OUTRAGED by all of these foreign fools messing with the English game,the Blues Fans are dead right Id Love to see What Uncle Jack Whom I respected 1000% would have to say about these foreign parasites !!!! I would think it would be unprintable I may be a Bunley Fan and yes I enjoy the banter but to see all that Jack Walker built destroyed is no laughing matter VENKYS AND KEAN NEED TO GO AS DO THE LIKES OF THE GLAZERS AND ABRAMOVICH ITS OUR GAME OUR TRADITION AND OUR CLUBS we should all be protesting Reds Blues and Clarets TOGETHER

jack01 wrote:

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Very well said.

How dare people label those protesting as damaging to Blackburn Rovers? The only ones doing the damage are those idiots that own the club. EVERY decision they have made in the last 12 months has been poor. Their biggest mistake was buying the club in the first place.

If you are a supporter and you spend hours and hours each week earning enough money to travel the length of the country supporting the club you have loved your entire life, then you are perfectly entitled to boo, protest and do whatever else you feel like if, like me, you are not satisfied with 6 wins in 11 months.

Im a Claret BUT I FEEL OUTRAGED by all of these foreign fools messing with the English game,the Blues Fans are dead right Id Love to see What Uncle Jack Whom I respected 1000% would have to say about these foreign parasites !!!! I would think it would be unprintable I may be a Bunley Fan and yes I enjoy the banter but to see all that Jack Walker built destroyed is no laughing matter VENKYS AND KEAN NEED TO GO AS DO THE LIKES OF THE GLAZERS AND ABRAMOVICH ITS OUR GAME OUR TRADITION AND OUR CLUBS we should all be protesting Reds Blues and Clarets TOGETHER

The only journalist I ever listened to was Peter White, what he'd have made of this shambles at Ewood God only knows, I only know one think he wouldn't have kowtowed to Venky's but there again Peter White was a proper journalist, seems there aren't too many of his calibre about today

The majority of fans can see that the only way the club is going with Kean at the helm is down. For whatever reasons, the owners cannot or will not see this. Performances may have improved marginally over the last few games but this is a results business. 6 wins in a year is just not good enough and if the owners don't get this then the fans have every right to protest.

nebulacharge wrote:
Here Dan, let me fix this for you: "Although they have good intentions deep down, VENKYS are helping to turn our club into a laughing stock."

Dont you mean CHICKEN stock..?

Well done Dan. Take a trip to India and have a free chicken dinner.
It is not about the players, it is about the man. Without going in to all the things we dislike him for the simple irrefutable fact remains - he has no tactical awareness whatsoever. His record alone would by now have seen him out on his backside at any other club.
If all his games in charge had been in the same season we would be in the Championship now. NO OTHER FACT IS OF ANY IMPORTANCE. THIS IS AN UNANSWERABLE FACT.
Every week he satys the odds go worse for our survival. With him we will only ever win a game despite him and not because of him.

I think what Dan is saying is completely at odds to what he has said previously. Why have you altered your views Dan? I personally think that if this situation is allowed to gone on much longer, we will have another mass exudus of fans similar to the one after the scandal of the cup final tickets when we reached the 1960 cup final. For those old enough to remember we lost 10000 fans overnight never to be seen at Ewood again until Jack Walker breathed fresh air back into the club again some 30 years later. I think the current fracture of the club being caused by the owners could see the club plunge into the wilderness for another 30 years only this time we will have a magnificent ground built by Jack Walker for all the fans of Blackburn turned into a white elephant by the new owners. So **** right do Rovers have fans have the right to protest to stop this happening.

The LT have come out with an article such as this is because (1) they will always feel the pressure to say nice things about the owners, because without the club's cooperation there would no news, and (2) the club's strategy over the last couple of weeks is to try to turn the tables and blame all the negativity on those fans exercising their right to protest. This strategy has clearly been supported in the above article. Personally I have not joined a march or stayed behind to protest after games. However, to somehow try to even put an ounce of blame for this shambles on those people who have chosen to protest is a disgrace. We are in this position because over the last 32 league games, our team has only been good enough to win just 6 games. It is about time the club, its owners, players and manager took some responsibility for our poor results, instead of making excuses and spouting statements about how well we are playing and that we have turned a corner. Steve Kean is not a manager who has served us well in the past, who is having a difficult start to a new campaign. Steve Kean is however a self publicist who since taking over from Big Sam when the club was in a relatively secure position in the league, has managed to take the club into a steady and consistent decline.

Dear Desperate Dan,

Can I ask IF Kean had killed someone, perhaps someone you love, and somehow avoided prison would you still defend drink driving as though everyone is as it. It has taken many years and many deaths to reduce those attitudes, and I am somewhat astonished a professional journalist if indeed you are one would write something so stupid.

Dan Clough YOU ARE A FOOKING BELL END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!

Spanishblue wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
Which of you protesting on the terraces Is without a driving ban or points on your licence,one of the pictures I saw of some banner holding people and surrounding supporters didn't look old enough to be able to qualify for the above.

If I was back in Blackburn I would be protesting on the terraces and I don´t have points on my licence nor have I ever drunk and drove. The man is inept. 28 points taken from 32 games a win percentage of 18.75%, the worst manager in Rovers history. Thats why he needs to go.

Hi Spanish Blue what part of Spain are you in,I'm in Andalusia, I have been a loyal supporter for more years than I care to remember,best regards

What a complete and utter pratt you are, I have supported Rovers for over 40 years and can not get my head round the way our club is dying on its feet. In what other premier league team would such a consistently poor performance from the manager not be rewarded by dismissal. Kean lacks the basics, morals, ethics and a basic sunday league knowledge of management. Don't you dare condemn supporters who have been forced by the clubs attitude to respond in the way they have. Smile and be positive on the way to the match?.... our club is being destroyed you plank, nobody wants to protest, we would all settle for a mid table position, we do support the lads, thats why the banners are aimed not at them but at Kean. Perhaps as a second class reporter you have lost what it is to have passion, if anyone has got it wrong its people like you and sadly time and relegation will prove that to be right..KEAN OUT

Burnley59/60 wrote:

jack01 wrote:

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Very well said.

How dare people label those protesting as damaging to Blackburn Rovers? The only ones doing the damage are those idiots that own the club. EVERY decision they have made in the last 12 months has been poor. Their biggest mistake was buying the club in the first place.

If you are a supporter and you spend hours and hours each week earning enough money to travel the length of the country supporting the club you have loved your entire life, then you are perfectly entitled to boo, protest and do whatever else you feel like if, like me, you are not satisfied with 6 wins in 11 months.

Im a Claret BUT I FEEL OUTRAGED by all of these foreign fools messing with the English game,the Blues Fans are dead right Id Love to see What Uncle Jack Whom I respected 1000% would have to say about these foreign parasites !!!! I would think it would be unprintable I may be a Bunley Fan and yes I enjoy the banter but to see all that Jack Walker built destroyed is no laughing matter VENKYS AND KEAN NEED TO GO AS DO THE LIKES OF THE GLAZERS AND ABRAMOVICH ITS OUR GAME OUR TRADITION AND OUR CLUBS we should all be protesting Reds Blues and Clarets TOGETHER

Well said burnley 59/60. Bob lord would have agreed with your comments aswell.

Wwwhat aload of nonsense. To suggest that protesters are making the club more risible is the equivalent of remarking how much less attractive Ann Widdecombe looks with a coldsore.

Dan if people 'Stand for 90 minutes' couldn't that be confused with a protest?

As for 'positive songs', how about Bobby McFerrin's classic:

There is this little song I wrote
I hope you learn it note for note
Like good little children
Don't worry, be happy

I'm all for stopping the protests for a few weeks. Not because of recent performances (how many points have we got again?) but because it is the last excuse that Kean (and those who believe he will turn it round) are clinging to.


If the protests stop and we lose the next 2 or 3 winnable games. Will your opinion change then Mr Clough?

We are NOT becoming a laughing stock. WE ARE A LAUGHING STOCK! And it has f*** all to do with protesting fans!

We became a laughing stock, the day this once proud club, was taken over by FANTASISTS. Do you not remember the talk of grandeur, top four finishes and marquee signings? What have they delivered? Two CONSECUTIVE relegation battles, and if these JOKERS that own the club, persist with their ludicrous backing of SK, then we WILL get relegated this season.

And i'm sick of all this claptrap that we're playing well, and that it's only bad luck that we are not winning games. What NONSENSE! Winning 6 (six) games from 32, is not bad luck. It's bad management. Good managers do not lose 50% of their games in charge! Bad ones do! Granted, performances aren't bad, and no one can question player commitment, BUT, it's results that count, and Walter Mitty has not got the tactical ability, required to make a PL manager. Coach? Almost certainly. Manager? Never in a month of Sundays.

No, it's not disgruntled fans that have turned this once proud club into a laughing stock; it's VENKY'S. Their twelve months in charge, have been nothing short of CALAMITOUS!

I am finished with rovers,me and my family will never go again its not Kean,its not venkys,its the awful fans ,shame on you in the blackburn end your a disgrace

Dan, wake up and smell the coffee, its the owners and the manager who have caused our proud club to become the ridicule of every football fan in the country (believe me I travel all over the country and constantly get the p##s taken out of me).

It may be small numbers protesting but the vast MAJORITY of Rovers supporters want changes and quickly.

Steve Kean I believe is a very good coach, but after everything that has happened he will never get the support a manager needs to succeed so he has to go. I can honestly say that in over 40 years of going to Ewood this is the first time I have wanted a manager to be sacked, and that includes Ince, Kidd etc.

Desperate Dan he must be angling for a free trip to pune with the bald one,he should fit in well with them there none of them know anything about the Rovers it seems .

Rayzerisaloser wrote:
I am finished with rovers,me and my family will never go again its not Kean,its not venkys,its the awful fans ,shame on you in the blackburn end your a disgrace

i know what you mean, but you must keep the faith. i left the b/burn end in 2003 and i am now int darwen end. the b/burn end fans are rubbish. no passion whatsoever. i used to love it when it was the old terraces but now its a dull and boring place. in fact the best time to sit there is at a cup game. i think they sang once on saturday. well done b/burn enders!
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i'm also fed up of all the kids who know nowt about the game. brainwashed by media and parents.
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i believe that venkys have the best interests of the club at heart.
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i dont know whats wrong with them making changes - they needed to be made. the problem is that they made them too quick maybe. but if they needed changing they must have thought why delay the inevitable.
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ok, they were hasty, but obviously they wanted to move the club in a different direction. has it worked so far? yes and no.
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kean? i think he deserves some respect and a little more time (my opinion).
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ok, he got done for drink driving. its not good. but my mate did that. should i banish him and should none of us ever respect him again? let him without sin throw the first stone.
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if things dont pick up make the change; i hate all of the stupid personal attacks on a man who is just working hard and getting on with it.
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protest if you want. but show some class. the plane thing was a disgrace and a cruel thing for the club. hang your heads in shame. its not a laugh. its not a joke. its damaging to the club.
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i think ive hit the nail on the head. classless protesters in my opinion. i know i'll get grief for my little rant; i'm just saying what many other people think.
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and to all of the people who are protesting with their feet, well done. i would never do that. nor would my mates. saturday afternoon is for football not shopping. when the good times come back staw away. fickle fans are the worst fans of all.

makaveli96 wrote:
Dan, its like if an American firm owned the LET???

It should be Blackburn people for Blackburn Rovers. Like Blackburn people for the LET.

Thats funny makaveli96! An American firm do own the LET!!! And also it is contracted to be printed by another company in North Wales!!!!!

Rayzerisaloser wrote:
I am finished with rovers,me and my family will never go again its not Kean,its not venkys,its the awful fans ,shame on you in the blackburn end your a disgrace

we are sorry if we upset you with our protests at the end of the game,get a grip if been going sincethe1980s and i tell you something i have not seen such a crap effort of looking after a football team and that includes portsmouth and leeds and look where they ended up .this clueless kit man has masterminded 6 wins in 32 league games,enough excuses.fat head needs to leave end of story .rtid

Thats funny makaveli96! An American firm do own the LET!!! And also it is contracted to be printed by another company in North Wales!!!!!

Lamp it! wrote:

Rayzerisaloser wrote:
I am finished with rovers,me and my family will never go again its not Kean,its not venkys,its the awful fans ,shame on you in the blackburn end your a disgrace

i know what you mean, but you must keep the faith. i left the b/burn end in 2003 and i am now int darwen end. the b/burn end fans are rubbish. no passion whatsoever. i used to love it when it was the old terraces but now its a dull and boring place. in fact the best time to sit there is at a cup game. i think they sang once on saturday. well done b/burn enders!
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i'm also fed up of all the kids who know nowt about the game. brainwashed by media and parents.
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i believe that venkys have the best interests of the club at heart.
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i dont know whats wrong with them making changes - they needed to be made. the problem is that they made them too quick maybe. but if they needed changing they must have thought why delay the inevitable.
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ok, they were hasty, but obviously they wanted to move the club in a different direction. has it worked so far? yes and no.
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kean? i think he deserves some respect and a little more time (my opinion).
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ok, he got done for drink driving. its not good. but my mate did that. should i banish him and should none of us ever respect him again? let him without sin throw the first stone.
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if things dont pick up make the change; i hate all of the stupid personal attacks on a man who is just working hard and getting on with it.
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protest if you want. but show some class. the plane thing was a disgrace and a cruel thing for the club. hang your heads in shame. its not a laugh. its not a joke. its damaging to the club.
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i think ive hit the nail on the head. classless protesters in my opinion. i know i'll get grief for my little rant; i'm just saying what many other people think.
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and to all of the people who are protesting with their feet, well done. i would never do that. nor would my mates. saturday afternoon is for football not shopping. when the good times come back staw away. fickle fans are the worst fans of all.

Will you do me the favour of answering these questions please. How has the club moved forward? Why does Kean deserve more respect and time? I'm not trying to be condescending here, I'm just generally interested in how you come to those conclusions.

The problem you have Dan is that you are talking to people that spend that much time on their computer games that they actually think that they can be a football manager unfortunately they cannot agree between them what a starting 11 should be. Their racist opinions about the owners should not be tolerated. What exactly has a driving ban got to do with running a football club? There is an agenda here against the club that is far from clear. These protest organisers say they know things us lesser mortals don't, so maybe It's time for them to put up or shut up!

The reaction of some rovers fans has been out of order, particularly those spewing bile on these pages. I remember not so long ago, a lot of people on here were calling for Allardyce to be sacked because of the way Rovers were playing (and ocasionally winning).

However, Rovers fans, at this point, have got every right to protest, as visually and audibly as possible.


The very strange appointment of Kean as manager

Venky's Champions League proclamations

The Ronaldinho/Beckham merry-go-round

Jerome Anderson

John Williams (Man City clearly think he's good enough)

*That* Chicken advert (we'll see Rovers players advertising Marlboro reds next)

The utterly despicable acts of playing loud music over the protests, and banning banners inside the ground

Being bottom of the league

"Judge me after the transfer window"


All of the above have, quite rightly, infuriated Rovers fans who aren't completely blind to the fact that we have gone from being a very well run club, to being, well.... completely f**ked.

Protest, make it loud, make it happen.

This is a classic article. Not only does the reporter make wild outlandish comments but he's ALREADY trying to make his excuses in the text before the retort.

A) HOW did we nearly draw/win on Saturday? Outside of Yakubu's shot, Hanleys shot/trip and the near own goal, IN 90 MINS, that was our only input. We didnt deserve a point, if we had by some miracle have scored, we would have conceeded again within 5 mins.

B) LOOK AT KEANS FACE. LOOK AT HIS PRESS CONFERENCES, HES LIKE A NERVOUS CONE-HEAD, SWEAT OOZES FROM HIM, HE SHAKES AND IS HARDLY A LEADERSHIP FIGURE. THAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE WITH HIM, HOW CAN HE HONESTLY GIVE ANY SORT OF DISCIPLINE?

MxMave wrote:
This is a classic article. Not only does the reporter make wild outlandish comments but he's ALREADY trying to make his excuses in the text before the retort.

A) HOW did we nearly draw/win on Saturday? Outside of Yakubu's shot, Hanleys shot/trip and the near own goal, IN 90 MINS, that was our only input. We didnt deserve a point, if we had by some miracle have scored, we would have conceeded again within 5 mins.

B) LOOK AT KEANS FACE. LOOK AT HIS PRESS CONFERENCES, HES LIKE A NERVOUS CONE-HEAD, SWEAT OOZES FROM HIM, HE SHAKES AND IS HARDLY A LEADERSHIP FIGURE. THAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE WITH HIM, HOW CAN HE HONESTLY GIVE ANY SORT OF DISCIPLINE?

i think this "reporter" has taken give him time venky tablets.The man spouts utter rubbish ,sounds like Kean wrote it himself.Sod off clough you deluded idiot we are going down with this clown in charge,and that is all that matters till he is sacked.rtid

MxMave wrote:
This is a classic article. Not only does the reporter make wild outlandish comments but he's ALREADY trying to make his excuses in the text before the retort.

A) HOW did we nearly draw/win on Saturday? Outside of Yakubu's shot, Hanleys shot/trip and the near own goal, IN 90 MINS, that was our only input. We didnt deserve a point, if we had by some miracle have scored, we would have conceeded again within 5 mins.

B) LOOK AT KEANS FACE. LOOK AT HIS PRESS CONFERENCES, HES LIKE A NERVOUS CONE-HEAD, SWEAT OOZES FROM HIM, HE SHAKES AND IS HARDLY A LEADERSHIP FIGURE. THAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE WITH HIM, HOW CAN HE HONESTLY GIVE ANY SORT OF DISCIPLINE?

i think this "reporter" has taken give him time venky tablets.The man spouts utter rubbish ,sounds like Kean wrote it himself.Sod off clough you deluded idiot we are going down with this clown in charge,and that is all that matters till he is sacked.rtid

Oh here we go again, anybody that expresses a dissatisfaction with the Venky regime is a racist. Shut up knobhead.

•Arrive at the ground with a smile on your face
•Walk, don’t march.
•Stand for 90 minutes singing positive songs
•Support the team
•Applaud where appropriate
•Here’s the big one. Don’t boo

Most protesters don't march they do the sit-in but besides those few protesters that do the march most of them tick all the boxes on the list but honestly your points are completely irrelevant and you failed to mention the Keans total disrespect towards the fans hows about you do your job and give an unbiased opinion instead of giving grief to your fellow fans?

We played well against Chelsea and should have picked up 3 points buts thats the story of Steve Kean so far

Could of, Should of, Would of but never will

I thought reporters are supposed to report things?

Your wasting your time and you seem to be as good at your job as Kean!

petemcglinn wrote:

Burnley59/60 wrote:

jack01 wrote:

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Very well said.

How dare people label those protesting as damaging to Blackburn Rovers? The only ones doing the damage are those idiots that own the club. EVERY decision they have made in the last 12 months has been poor. Their biggest mistake was buying the club in the first place.

If you are a supporter and you spend hours and hours each week earning enough money to travel the length of the country supporting the club you have loved your entire life, then you are perfectly entitled to boo, protest and do whatever else you feel like if, like me, you are not satisfied with 6 wins in 11 months.

Im a Claret BUT I FEEL OUTRAGED by all of these foreign fools messing with the English game,the Blues Fans are dead right Id Love to see What Uncle Jack Whom I respected 1000% would have to say about these foreign parasites !!!! I would think it would be unprintable I may be a Bunley Fan and yes I enjoy the banter but to see all that Jack Walker built destroyed is no laughing matter VENKYS AND KEAN NEED TO GO AS DO THE LIKES OF THE GLAZERS AND ABRAMOVICH ITS OUR GAME OUR TRADITION AND OUR CLUBS we should all be protesting Reds Blues and Clarets TOGETHER

Well said burnley 59/60. Bob lord would have agreed with your comments aswell.

I HAVE A DREAM, WHERE LITTLE CLARET BOYS AND LITTLE CLARET GIRLS WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN HANDS WITH LITTLE BLUE CHILDREN.

Rayzerisaloser wrote:
I am finished with rovers,me and my family will never go again its not Kean,its not venkys,its the awful fans ,shame on you in the blackburn end your a disgrace

I boo'd at the end of the game vs chelsea, very briefly, as did everyone. I then applauded the players as they walked toward the darwen end.

Very few people sat in and protested. This is because we never really expected to win that game, but we HAD to to keep up with the rest of the PL. If we had won earlier this whole debacle wouldn't be occuring now.

If this continues, and we loose to Wigan & Stoke, I shan't be staying to boo and protest, I shall be flying a light aircraft into the dugout.

Dan if you are not quiet, somebody may think you know what your talking about,where you not saying Kean out a few weeks ago, please tell us weather you have changed your mind or not,your blogs are getting like corrie now, where the guy cought having an affair, is having an amicable beer with the husband two weeks later

I have spoken to you Dan on the phone and have to say this is one of the silliest articles i have ever read.

The problem is Kean.

You stop protesting, he will proclaim the fans undying love for him and the way we play.

This will reinforce his image with the owners and we will never get rid of him and WILL be relegated.

How can you say you support the club and then publish something in the main local paper which will have a huge negative effect on the club, and it's players.

Why don't you try putting together a article which doesn't draw on your own singular opinion and actually ask fans why they are doing what they are doing?

Something i actually believe i suggested to you two months ago.

It isn't as plain as being against the manager and the players. We ALL support the players. Just don't want the manager in place any longer.

We didn't want to have to hire the helicopted with the banner. But the decision was taken out of our hands by the club and it's broken promises.

I live between Blackburn and Burnley and our village is about 50 - 50 support Rovers and Burnley and even the burnley supporters who normaly give me stick are feeling sorry fo me
How sad is that

You know what folks?

We all get riled up about what messrs Cryer and Clough dump on us in the name of journalism, but the description of Danny boy at the top of the article gives us a clue to what we're up against.

"Dan Clough - reporter"...

Of course he is.

It's the LET - the local rag - the lowest of the food chain when it comes to journalism - everything they 'write' should be treated with a massive pinch of salt because both of them are so out of touch it's unbelieveable.

Treat them with contempt they deserve - don't rise to their ill-conceived drivel.

Reporters? Journalists? Yeah - and Jordan's boobs are real...

@tombo "We didn't want to have to hire the helicopted with the banner. But the decision was taken out of our hands by the club and it's broken promises".

Sweet, helicoptor, lets arrange it, then we can go for a blimp. We could see how many different types of vehicles we can fit a kean out banner onto until theres a hovercraft parkouring the stands.

MxMave wrote:

petemcglinn wrote:

Burnley59/60 wrote:

jack01 wrote:

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Very well said.

How dare people label those protesting as damaging to Blackburn Rovers? The only ones doing the damage are those idiots that own the club. EVERY decision they have made in the last 12 months has been poor. Their biggest mistake was buying the club in the first place.

If you are a supporter and you spend hours and hours each week earning enough money to travel the length of the country supporting the club you have loved your entire life, then you are perfectly entitled to boo, protest and do whatever else you feel like if, like me, you are not satisfied with 6 wins in 11 months.

Im a Claret BUT I FEEL OUTRAGED by all of these foreign fools messing with the English game,the Blues Fans are dead right Id Love to see What Uncle Jack Whom I respected 1000% would have to say about these foreign parasites !!!! I would think it would be unprintable I may be a Bunley Fan and yes I enjoy the banter but to see all that Jack Walker built destroyed is no laughing matter VENKYS AND KEAN NEED TO GO AS DO THE LIKES OF THE GLAZERS AND ABRAMOVICH ITS OUR GAME OUR TRADITION AND OUR CLUBS we should all be protesting Reds Blues and Clarets TOGETHER

Well said burnley 59/60. Bob lord would have agreed with your comments aswell.

I HAVE A DREAM, WHERE LITTLE CLARET BOYS AND LITTLE CLARET GIRLS WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN HANDS WITH LITTLE BLUE CHILDREN.

no f ing chance

This is my first time writing on here and I am ready for the stick I will get for my comments but I fully support Dan's views...maybe he could have made his point a little softer but then again why should he...lots of Rovers fans at the moment are posting nonsensical and vilifying comments so why should he water down his comments. I have been a Rovers fan since the Simon Garner and Scott Sellars days...obviously the highlight of my BRFC days was as a 16 year old fan when we won the Premier League. However, even in those days there was a number of fans who spent the game picking up on anything bad done by a player and somehow missing the good aspects of a performance...this obviously got worse as we slipped down the league in the following years...it got the point where I would end up arguing with my own fans every game...anybody that has ever played in front of a crowd knows that most people react better to encouragement and support than criticism from their own fans...I could never quite fathom how fans did not realise that a nervous player is more likely to make mistakes than a confident player...it got so bad that I actually hated going to matches and listening to some fans lament players consistently...my only guess was that their lives must have been so miserable that they felt the need to make somebody elses life moserable to make them feel better. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that it is only Rovers fans that act like this and definitely not all...fans at away games are completely different and I love attending away games and supporting the lads.

I know that most of the criticism is directed at Kean but I find it hard to believe that such remarks would not affect the players too.

In summary...I respect people's views but, as already suggested, before and during the game I think our club would benefit from fans being behind the team and manager...after the game, I agree - the fans can say what they want...but let's pull together on this and collectively I am sure Rovers can turn things around.

This is going to get me some tick...but I live in Australia now...people will instantly say that I am not in Blackburn...I dont know what is going on...but do we really want such an isolationist point of view...to be successful dont we need to have an ever expanding fan base....there are so many clubs around Blackburn that is always going to be hard to attract fans from surrounding areas...but we will not always have an injection of cash from our owners...if we want long term success we have to branch out and win fans from places other than Blackburn...I think we should embrace outside interest in our club...not block it.

Anyway...I will be back in Blackburn for Christmas this year and will be at as many games as possible, including Anfield on Boxing Day...and I for one will be fully supporting the team, no matter who the manager is.

Why is the LET too scared to run a poll on Kean?.

Dan you muppet!

Steve? Steve is that you???

Protesting is pointless and unsettles the team. How would you feel as a player? All you will do is accelerate their departure. Why would our good players stay when they put in a good shift and get booed for it. Those who booed after Chelsea must be blind to the very good performance. Fortunately you're a minority.

The majority are witnessing exciting football, commitment from the players and optimism that that will translate into enough points to see us climb the table.

The minority are conspiracy theorists where Kean and Venkies have some secret agenda to destroy the club. Blinded by hate and self-righteousness it is actually they themselves who are damaging the club.

Bangkok Rover wrote:
Protesting is pointless and unsettles the team. How would you feel as a player? All you will do is accelerate their departure. Why would our good players stay when they put in a good shift and get booed for it. Those who booed after Chelsea must be blind to the very good performance. Fortunately you're a minority.

The majority are witnessing exciting football, commitment from the players and optimism that that will translate into enough points to see us climb the table.

The minority are conspiracy theorists where Kean and Venkies have some secret agenda to destroy the club. Blinded by hate and self-righteousness it is actually they themselves who are damaging the club.

whatever

Oakdale blue wrote:
The problem you have Dan is that you are talking to people that spend that much time on their computer games that they actually think that they can be a football manager unfortunately they cannot agree between them what a starting 11 should be. Their racist opinions about the owners should not be tolerated. What exactly has a driving ban got to do with running a football club? There is an agenda here against the club that is far from clear. These protest organisers say they know things us lesser mortals don't, so maybe It's time for them to put up or shut up!

"Their racist opinions about the owners should not be tolerated."
Do you mean the race to get past the points safety mark?

Bangkok rover and dibs666 I totally agree. And mxmave, just why did you boo after the chelsea game? Is it because it is nearly pantomime season? You should be ashamed.
.
Blimey, I remember bill fox getting some stick:
'they don't want to go up'. 'theyve no ambition!'. Hes just pocketing the money and draining the club'.
.
I also remember Mr walker being ridiculed for putting a 2 million pound bid in for lineker and sherringham! When I think back it did seem silly. But it wasn't. You need ambition. You need patience. You need fans supporting the team.
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So Mr mxmave, or r u a woman?, how can you admit to booing after the chelsea game? You have no shame. I feel sorry for you.

Clough go and drop on your sword.

Who the hell do you think you are? this piece of crap you have wrote is the worst article I have ever read, if you have a point to make try not being so un-professional when writing it....and as for calling the protesters "poorly wrote press realeases" Grow up you moron you get paid for your crappy press articles they aint reporters.

Before this article I and others thought you was the only person at LET who had the balls to speak about the real goings on at Ewood, but after this article you have probably gone straight in at number one at the biggest tit at the LET

well done d!ckhead

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
Clough go and drop on your sword.

Who the hell do you think you are? this piece of crap you have wrote is the worst article I have ever read, if you have a point to make try not being so un-professional when writing it....and as for calling the protesters "poorly wrote press realeases" Grow up you moron you get paid for your crappy press articles they aint reporters.

Before this article I and others thought you was the only person at LET who had the balls to speak about the real goings on at Ewood, but after this article you have probably gone straight in at number one at the biggest tit at the LET

well done d!ckhead

You see. That's why he is correct. It all results in insults because he has a different opinion. Grow up.

ossyrover1 wrote:

Bangkok Rover wrote:
Protesting is pointless and unsettles the team. How would you feel as a player? All you will do is accelerate their departure. Why would our good players stay when they put in a good shift and get booed for it. Those who booed after Chelsea must be blind to the very good performance. Fortunately you're a minority.

The majority are witnessing exciting football, commitment from the players and optimism that that will translate into enough points to see us climb the table.

The minority are conspiracy theorists where Kean and Venkies have some secret agenda to destroy the club. Blinded by hate and self-righteousness it is actually they themselves who are damaging the club.

whatever

Its not about hate I don't know where you come from but Im Burnley born and Im sure the majority of these lads and lassies are Blackburn born,as was Uncle Jack now why should they sit around and watch the club they love ruined by a group of asset striping foreign Parasites,Im all for banter,but to see a Great Founder Member of the league treated like a toy is an absolute outrage Id love to see Uncle Jack in a room for five minutes with this shower of $3ite Id think the great man might have a word or two to say to them.As a Claret to the core I tell you stright I love the English game and our clubs I well remember a few years ago when another group of foreign parasites tried to destory the Wolves another essential club in the history of the game in these islands thank G-d it did not happen it took a real fan Sir Jack Haward to fix it.Every Fan Who Loves The English Game should support the Blues fans on this one VENKY'S STICK TO COOKING KFC AND TAKE KEAN WITH YOU

RobbyRover wrote:
I'll be totally honest Dan. For me it IS about Kean. It IS personal now. And let me tell you for why;

1) His appalling record as manager
2) His part in the SA sacking
3) His part in JW leaving (got the article to back that one up as well)
4) His insulting statements to/about the fans

We pay a lot of money. Yes you can argue the Venky's have paid, but I'm talking proportionally. I will NEVER accept Kean the man as manager of Rovers.

As for embarassing, I'd suggest you look no further than his interviews. Stating we were "nearly on course for top 10" as a recent example. I can't stand reading about him. I can't stand hearing him speak. And most of all I can't stand him wearing the badge that means so much to so many on his chest.

I also genuinely believe the protests would have subsided by a large amount if the banner ban hadn't been imposed. The more you try and quash the supporters' voice the more they will be determined to air it.

I also hate the statements coming out from people like you Dan, Ryan Nelsen and some people on here trying to impose your idea of what a fan is on everyone else. A fan is someone who genuinely wants the best for the club in the short, medium and long term. No matter how ridiculous you consider their ideas to be, they're still fans.

But most of all I hate what this is doing to our fans. Arguing with each other. Battling with the club that used to value us so highly. Talk of "counter protests". This animosity all boils down to one thing - the direction of Blackburn Rovers under Steve Kean and Venky's. And after all the crap I've been subjected to in his statements and interviews then yes. I dislike him very very much.

Absolutely agree with every word. I'm sticking with my thread, Shudda, Cudda, Wudda the last words of a fool. Google it.

KRover wrote:
I think you will find that the club were a laughing stock long before the protests started. Claims of marquee signings Ronaldino, Beckham etc; claims we will be playing champions league football in 4 years etc made us the laughing stock of football. What I can't understand is how protests by '1%' of the fans has so much of a disruptive effect on the club and players. If everything in the garden is rosey why do the club have to spend all their efforts trying to discredit this small number of protesters. Why are they not coming on here telling us how well organised the club management structure is; how well the team is performing; how happy they are with our current position in the league. I will accept that under Clements performances have improved. But unfortunately all clubs have good and bad patches and if we are currently going through a good patch and not picking up points it is extremely worrying. The bottom line is the league position does not lie. I think you will find that the history of football is littered with clubs that are too good to go down; whose manager says they were unlucky; whose manager says he can't fault the players effort; whose maanger says they were the target of bad refereeing decisions etc. Does this sound familiar. Kean said judge me after the transfer window closes. Our league record since then is played 8 won 1. He now appears to be saying judge me after the next 6 games. What will happen then will he say judge me after the January transfer window. My greatest worry is Kean saying in August judge me after a season in the Championship

Spot on KRover I agree with you entirely....I dispair at some Rovers fans who seem to be just sitting back and allowing this pantomime to reach it's inevitable conclusion, without so much of a whimper. The club and Kean have been very cunning in the way they have manipulated the supporters to accept this "us and them" attitude. A civil war of sorts has now ensued, causing wounds that may never be healed. By that time though Venkys, Kean and co. will be long gone, and the club will no doubt be ruined as we know it! When the fans needed to be united in their efforts to engage with Venkys on the state of this once great little club, many were sadly found lacking. Having followed this club for 50 years I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever been ashamed of being a Rovers fan. All is not lost just yet though, if venkys wake up and smell the char, they could still change things for the better....If not, then I fear that they "must" have some other kind of agenda! Arte et Labore.

RIGHT ALL YOU STUPID A**HOLES THAT CALL YOURSELF BRFC FANS - DO US ALL A FAVOUR A F**K OFF!!!!! STAY AT HOME - SIT IN YOUR ROOM - JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB! YOU ARE RUINING OUR IMAGE AND HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO RECRUIT PLAYERS IN JANUARY YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE!!! YOU ALL HAVE NO COMMON SENSE!!! YOU ARE ALL SO THICK!!!! WHY WOULD A TOP PLAYER COME TO EWOOD PARK WHEN LARGE SECTIONS OF SO CALLED FANS SLATE THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS AND THE STAFF AND THE OWNERS!!!! GROW UP USE YOUR BRAINS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE ALL DOING TO OUR CLUB THEN I PITTY YOU!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!

Burnley59/60 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

Bangkok Rover wrote: Protesting is pointless and unsettles the team. How would you feel as a player? All you will do is accelerate their departure. Why would our good players stay when they put in a good shift and get booed for it. Those who booed after Chelsea must be blind to the very good performance. Fortunately you're a minority. The majority are witnessing exciting football, commitment from the players and optimism that that will translate into enough points to see us climb the table. The minority are conspiracy theorists where Kean and Venkies have some secret agenda to destroy the club. Blinded by hate and self-righteousness it is actually they themselves who are damaging the club.

whatever

Its not about hate I don't know where you come from but Im Burnley born and Im sure the majority of these lads and lassies are Blackburn born,as was Uncle Jack now why should they sit around and watch the club they love ruined by a group of asset striping foreign Parasites,Im all for banter,but to see a Great Founder Member of the league treated like a toy is an absolute outrage Id love to see Uncle Jack in a room for five minutes with this shower of $3ite Id think the great man might have a word or two to say to them.As a Claret to the core I tell you stright I love the English game and our clubs I well remember a few years ago when another group of foreign parasites tried to destory the Wolves another essential club in the history of the game in these islands thank G-d it did not happen it took a real fan Sir Jack Haward to fix it.Every Fan Who Loves The English Game should support the Blues fans on this one VENKY'S STICK TO COOKING KFC AND TAKE KEAN WITH YOU

Quite right about the Wolves - The Bhatti Brothers!! Under that lot they collapsed to the Fourth Division and got knocked out of the cup by Chorley. Took a generation to come back!
Are we going the same way?

BRFCINAFRICA wrote:
RIGHT ALL YOU STUPID A**HOLES THAT CALL YOURSELF BRFC FANS - DO US ALL A FAVOUR A F**K OFF!!!!! STAY AT HOME - SIT IN YOUR ROOM - JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB! YOU ARE RUINING OUR IMAGE AND HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO RECRUIT PLAYERS IN JANUARY YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE!!! YOU ALL HAVE NO COMMON SENSE!!! YOU ARE ALL SO THICK!!!! WHY WOULD A TOP PLAYER COME TO EWOOD PARK WHEN LARGE SECTIONS OF SO CALLED FANS SLATE THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS AND THE STAFF AND THE OWNERS!!!! GROW UP USE YOUR BRAINS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE ALL DOING TO OUR CLUB THEN I PITTY YOU!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!

Probably a little OTT, although as you see from my comment earlier I don't entirely disagree...but I dont think your comment is the way to go about bringing unity to the club.

Everyone needs to pull together for the collective good, manager, players, supports and owners...let's show the rest of the league what a force we can be.

If afer the next 6 games we are still in the relegation zone then we should reassess but please let's just all get behind the team and our club during that period.

Bazzer wrote:

Burnley59/60 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

Bangkok Rover wrote: Protesting is pointless and unsettles the team. How would you feel as a player? All you will do is accelerate their departure. Why would our good players stay when they put in a good shift and get booed for it. Those who booed after Chelsea must be blind to the very good performance. Fortunately you're a minority. The majority are witnessing exciting football, commitment from the players and optimism that that will translate into enough points to see us climb the table. The minority are conspiracy theorists where Kean and Venkies have some secret agenda to destroy the club. Blinded by hate and self-righteousness it is actually they themselves who are damaging the club.

whatever

Its not about hate I don't know where you come from but Im Burnley born and Im sure the majority of these lads and lassies are Blackburn born,as was Uncle Jack now why should they sit around and watch the club they love ruined by a group of asset striping foreign Parasites,Im all for banter,but to see a Great Founder Member of the league treated like a toy is an absolute outrage Id love to see Uncle Jack in a room for five minutes with this shower of $3ite Id think the great man might have a word or two to say to them.As a Claret to the core I tell you stright I love the English game and our clubs I well remember a few years ago when another group of foreign parasites tried to destory the Wolves another essential club in the history of the game in these islands thank G-d it did not happen it took a real fan Sir Jack Haward to fix it.Every Fan Who Loves The English Game should support the Blues fans on this one VENKY'S STICK TO COOKING KFC AND TAKE KEAN WITH YOU

Quite right about the Wolves - The Bhatti Brothers!! Under that lot they collapsed to the Fourth Division and got knocked out of the cup by Chorley. Took a generation to come back!
Are we going the same way?

Yes

Lamp it! wrote:
Bangkok rover and dibs666 I totally agree. And mxmave, just why did you boo after the chelsea game? Is it because it is nearly pantomime season? You should be ashamed. . Blimey, I remember bill fox getting some stick: 'they don't want to go up'. 'theyve no ambition!'. Hes just pocketing the money and draining the club'. . I also remember Mr walker being ridiculed for putting a 2 million pound bid in for lineker and sherringham! When I think back it did seem silly. But it wasn't. You need ambition. You need patience. You need fans supporting the team. . So Mr mxmave, or r u a woman?, how can you admit to booing after the chelsea game? You have no shame. I feel sorry for you.

I'll aim this comment at BKRover and dibs as well.

Rovers at the moment can be compared to the economy. Yet I bet you think that their bonuses should be cut and they should lose their jobs. But why? Shouldn't they be given more time? Surely launching inquests in to bonuses and their dealings will put too much pressure on the bankers and stop then from setting about the task of repairing the economy.

I mean, why should we use statistics against them? The fact their careless lending broke banks and cost tax payers billions shouldn't be used against them. I bet the people complaining individually make up a very small proportion of tax income so why should they have a say?

The fact the bankers are so handsomely rewarded shouldn't make a difference.

Notice any parallels? Or do I have to spell it out

RobbyRover wrote:

Lamp it! wrote:
Bangkok rover and dibs666 I totally agree. And mxmave, just why did you boo after the chelsea game? Is it because it is nearly pantomime season? You should be ashamed. . Blimey, I remember bill fox getting some stick: 'they don't want to go up'. 'theyve no ambition!'. Hes just pocketing the money and draining the club'. . I also remember Mr walker being ridiculed for putting a 2 million pound bid in for lineker and sherringham! When I think back it did seem silly. But it wasn't. You need ambition. You need patience. You need fans supporting the team. . So Mr mxmave, or r u a woman?, how can you admit to booing after the chelsea game? You have no shame. I feel sorry for you.

I'll aim this comment at BKRover and dibs as well.

Rovers at the moment can be compared to the economy. Yet I bet you think that their bonuses should be cut and they should lose their jobs. But why? Shouldn't they be given more time? Surely launching inquests in to bonuses and their dealings will put too much pressure on the bankers and stop then from setting about the task of repairing the economy.

I mean, why should we use statistics against them? The fact their careless lending broke banks and cost tax payers billions shouldn't be used against them. I bet the people complaining individually make up a very small proportion of tax income so why should they have a say?

The fact the bankers are so handsomely rewarded shouldn't make a difference.

Notice any parallels? Or do I have to spell it out

I think you miss my point about collectively working together to achieve success. I didnt suggest that players and managers shouldn't be accountable but there are appropriate times and places...Rovers fans could be the 12th man as the fans of some other clubs are...I know Rovers fans are at times but right now don't we need that more than ever? I dont need you 'to spell it out' but thanks for your condescending offer. As with the UK economy, the problems are not always the most obvious, and whilst I agree that leading bank figures should also be held accountable there are also more deepset social problems that contribute to the state of the economy.

Anyway, this is missing the point...I strongly believe we all need to be united right now...performances are improving...we have some good players and could have the makings of a very good side...I know we cant wait forever for us to become a very good side...we really cant afford to go down....but unless the fans get behind the team, then they will also be contributing to the demise of the club.

Fair comments from Dan. But of course the protestors who seem to be targeting this site with their bile have no eyes (to see how well we played on Sat) no ears (to realise 99% of fans got "BEHIND" their team on Sat) and no brains (to realise the protest was a failure due to a serious lack of numbers).
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The next 6 games are the key and all fans know Kean and the team has to produce or he will have to go. Why can't the protestors accept what 99% of Rovers fans think? Because they have become too wrapped up in their own agenda and can't see the wood for the trees now and are even attacking their own fans on here many who have been Rovers posters on here for many years.
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My gut feel is Kean will be gone by Mid Dec. But a loss at Wigan in front of 5,000 travelling fans could prove fatal and the mood of many Rovers fans will change - it is that big a game!
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33rd...........

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
Fair comments from Dan. But of course the protestors who seem to be targeting this site with their bile have no eyes (to see how well we played on Sat) no ears (to realise 99% of fans got "BEHIND" their team on Sat) and no brains (to realise the protest was a failure due to a serious lack of numbers). . The next 6 games are the key and all fans know Kean and the team has to produce or he will have to go. Why can't the protestors accept what 99% of Rovers fans think? Because they have become too wrapped up in their own agenda and can't see the wood for the trees now and are even attacking their own fans on here many who have been Rovers posters on here for many years. . My gut feel is Kean will be gone by Mid Dec. But a loss at Wigan in front of 5,000 travelling fans could prove fatal and the mood of many Rovers fans will change - it is that big a game! . 33rd...........

I suspect, Morst Old Boy, that YOU will be at the forefront of the mood change if we do not do the business at Wigan.

Dibs666 wrote:

RobbyRover wrote:

Lamp it! wrote: Bangkok rover and dibs666 I totally agree. And mxmave, just why did you boo after the chelsea game? Is it because it is nearly pantomime season? You should be ashamed. . Blimey, I remember bill fox getting some stick: 'they don't want to go up'. 'theyve no ambition!'. Hes just pocketing the money and draining the club'. . I also remember Mr walker being ridiculed for putting a 2 million pound bid in for lineker and sherringham! When I think back it did seem silly. But it wasn't. You need ambition. You need patience. You need fans supporting the team. . So Mr mxmave, or r u a woman?, how can you admit to booing after the chelsea game? You have no shame. I feel sorry for you.

I'll aim this comment at BKRover and dibs as well. Rovers at the moment can be compared to the economy. Yet I bet you think that their bonuses should be cut and they should lose their jobs. But why? Shouldn't they be given more time? Surely launching inquests in to bonuses and their dealings will put too much pressure on the bankers and stop then from setting about the task of repairing the economy. I mean, why should we use statistics against them? The fact their careless lending broke banks and cost tax payers billions shouldn't be used against them. I bet the people complaining individually make up a very small proportion of tax income so why should they have a say? The fact the bankers are so handsomely rewarded shouldn't make a difference. Notice any parallels? Or do I have to spell it out

I think you miss my point about collectively working together to achieve success. I didnt suggest that players and managers shouldn't be accountable but there are appropriate times and places...Rovers fans could be the 12th man as the fans of some other clubs are...I know Rovers fans are at times but right now don't we need that more than ever? I dont need you 'to spell it out' but thanks for your condescending offer. As with the UK economy, the problems are not always the most obvious, and whilst I agree that leading bank figures should also be held accountable there are also more deepset social problems that contribute to the state of the economy. Anyway, this is missing the point...I strongly believe we all need to be united right now...performances are improving...we have some good players and could have the makings of a very good side...I know we cant wait forever for us to become a very good side...we really cant afford to go down....but unless the fans get behind the team, then they will also be contributing to the demise of the club.

From my experiences the fans have been brilliant - even the protesters. During the game there have been no chants for Kean out.

I also agree performances have been getting better and that the players are giving their all. And I also agree that they're a talented bunch of players. A talented bunch of players giving 100% but still losing. There's got to be a problem somewhere and it's abundantly clear it's with the management. Bad luck alone doesn't give you a 18% win record. Even the most supersticious people wouldn't put that down to bad luck.

And how can anyone claim he hasn't had enough time?! 32 premiership games. That's 85% of a season! At what point do we say he's had enough? After these 6 games he'll have had exactly one season in charge. If you brought a manager in for the start of the season and he'd turned a mid table team in to one that had 1 win in 11 games would you still say he needs more time? If so we owe Paul Ince an apology.

And I really don't mean this to sound condescending, but the people who claim it's the "minority" or "1%" who are against him - did you go to school? By using numbers and maths that would put the number of fans inside Ewood at hundreds of thousands! It only holds about 32,000! You're undermining your own argument on the basis of maths. And of everything in the world, maths isn't a good thing to argue with.

The club has already been made in to a laughing stock. It started when Mrs Desai said she'd never seen a football match but she'd seen some cricket matches. It continued with the sacking of Sam and the hiring of Steve Kean, a man with no experience. It has got dramatically worse thanks to statements of "Ronaldinho and Beckham were real targets" then signing Myles Anderson. Then when we're rock bottom he claims we're almost on target for a top 10 finish.

Rovers fans could turn up stark naked and spend the game defecating in cardboard boxes and we couldn't trump the club's own staff in terms of embarassment.

Fans of clubs up and down the country can see what's happening here but some of our own fans can't. We're making things worse? Pull the other one. The damage has been well and truly done.

BRFCINAFRICA wrote:
RIGHT ALL YOU STUPID A**HOLES THAT CALL YOURSELF BRFC FANS - DO US ALL A FAVOUR A F**K OFF!!!!! STAY AT HOME - SIT IN YOUR ROOM - JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB! YOU ARE RUINING OUR IMAGE AND HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO RECRUIT PLAYERS IN JANUARY YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE!!! YOU ALL HAVE NO COMMON SENSE!!! YOU ARE ALL SO THICK!!!! WHY WOULD A TOP PLAYER COME TO EWOOD PARK WHEN LARGE SECTIONS OF SO CALLED FANS SLATE THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS AND THE STAFF AND THE OWNERS!!!! GROW UP USE YOUR BRAINS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE ALL DOING TO OUR CLUB THEN I PITTY YOU!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!

Ha, ha, top players my arse....what top player would want to play for Kean or venkys. Whatever attraction we did hold walked out of the door with williams and Finn etc. the club is being shafted and abusive little people like you refuse to see it!

makaveli96 wrote:
Dan, its like if an American firm owned the LET???

It should be Blackburn people for Blackburn Rovers. Like Blackburn people for the LET.

Not right there chummy! It's called the LEt for a reason and the clue is in the name! Get back to me when you have a newspaper called the BET, or, even better, the express as we have in Burnley.

Well well danny boy, you put the cat amongst the pigeons with that 1, lol.

Wasn't you saying its time for a change on your last blog but 1?

I think everyone will agree to disagree but life would be boring if we all thought the same way.

I have not booed the team, venkys or SK, and I'm not into protests, but I must say I've been a very unsatisfied customer during the last year. No matter how its dressed up or spun, there's trouble at mill, and everyone has the right to an opinion.

I just wish people would refrain from the insults coming from BOTH sides of the fence.

Dibs666 wrote:
This is my first time writing on here and I am ready for the stick I will get for my comments but I fully support Dan's views...maybe he could have made his point a little softer but then again why should he...lots of Rovers fans at the moment are posting nonsensical and vilifying comments so why should he water down his comments. I have been a Rovers fan since the Simon Garner and Scott Sellars days...obviously the highlight of my BRFC days was as a 16 year old fan when we won the Premier League. However, even in those days there was a number of fans who spent the game picking up on anything bad done by a player and somehow missing the good aspects of a performance...this obviously got worse as we slipped down the league in the following years...it got the point where I would end up arguing with my own fans every game...anybody that has ever played in front of a crowd knows that most people react better to encouragement and support than criticism from their own fans...I could never quite fathom how fans did not realise that a nervous player is more likely to make mistakes than a confident player...it got so bad that I actually hated going to matches and listening to some fans lament players consistently...my only guess was that their lives must have been so miserable that they felt the need to make somebody elses life moserable to make them feel better. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that it is only Rovers fans that act like this and definitely not all...fans at away games are completely different and I love attending away games and supporting the lads. I know that most of the criticism is directed at Kean but I find it hard to believe that such remarks would not affect the players too. In summary...I respect people's views but, as already suggested, before and during the game I think our club would benefit from fans being behind the team and manager...after the game, I agree - the fans can say what they want...but let's pull together on this and collectively I am sure Rovers can turn things around. This is going to get me some tick...but I live in Australia now...people will instantly say that I am not in Blackburn...I dont know what is going on...but do we really want such an isolationist point of view...to be successful dont we need to have an ever expanding fan base....there are so many clubs around Blackburn that is always going to be hard to attract fans from surrounding areas...but we will not always have an injection of cash from our owners...if we want long term success we have to branch out and win fans from places other than Blackburn...I think we should embrace outside interest in our club...not block it. Anyway...I will be back in Blackburn for Christmas this year and will be at as many games as possible, including Anfield on Boxing Day...and I for one will be fully supporting the team, no matter who the manager is.

Dibs666 you will not get stick from me although I don't agree with your comments.
However if results do not improve quickly and Kean remains in charge I think you will be shocked by the atmosphere you find at Ewood over Xmas.
You may then understand some of the views being posted on this site.

Well if BRFCAFRICA ia an example of the flat earthers I'm so very glad I'm an anti, and just a thought but how come a lot of thr give him more time crew live abroad?? just a thought. Keep on arguing boys Venkys couldn't have divided us more if they had tried.

Dan, the protests will go away if the team start to win games and start to look like they will stay in the Premier League.
The people who are trying to force the issue with Kean are doing so because he gives no hope, either by his actions or his words, that he is actually living in the same world as the rest of us.
100% for the Players
0% for the Manager

Let's face it Dan, would you employ Kean as a manager in your business with results and PR like he produces? The only people making laughing stocks are the incompetent owners for putting up with this clown.

I'm sorry but the protests must continue until a real manager is appointed. It will get worse with the protesters focusing on Venky's if positive action is not taken soon.

Kean out ASAP

jackslad1955 wrote:
Well if BRFCAFRICA ia an example of the flat earthers I'm so very glad I'm an anti, and just a thought but how come a lot of thr give him more time crew live abroad?? just a thought. Keep on arguing boys Venkys couldn't have divided us more if they had tried.

Possibly because a lot of the protesters are kids or the majority of the flat earthers are of the older generation who have been going down ewood through the harder times and not just the heady premiership times! Just a thought......

BRFCINAFRICA wrote:
RIGHT ALL YOU STUPID A**HOLES THAT CALL YOURSELF BRFC FANS - DO US ALL A FAVOUR A F**K OFF!!!!! STAY AT HOME - SIT IN YOUR ROOM - JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB! YOU ARE RUINING OUR IMAGE AND HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO RECRUIT PLAYERS IN JANUARY YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE!!! YOU ALL HAVE NO COMMON SENSE!!! YOU ARE ALL SO THICK!!!! WHY WOULD A TOP PLAYER COME TO EWOOD PARK WHEN LARGE SECTIONS OF SO CALLED FANS SLATE THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS AND THE STAFF AND THE OWNERS!!!! GROW UP USE YOUR BRAINS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE ALL DOING TO OUR CLUB THEN I PITTY YOU!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!

IDIOT.

I haven't protested but i understand why some people have.And lets be honest it is down to the awful record of Steve KEAN.Also it has not helped that the club turned up the music to drown out the protests and then banned protests inside the ground.Therefore the protest took to the skies with the plane and banner saying Steve KEAN Out.The last time i checked we still lived in a democracy so people are allowed a view.I am a true fan and have attended ewood since 1973 and will follow them whichever league we are in but please allow people to protest if they want.As i said democracy is what we have and lets remember that for all the people who lost their lives fighting two wars at this special time of year.

Turning on your club ?

Tut tut !

My thoughts are clear on this matter.

Well said Lamp It, Dibs666, Bankok Rover and Morst. At last some sense amidst all the poisonous bile being spat out by a lot of posters on here.
I too would like to see Kean replaced, but don't think it will happen - at least for some time - but by booing at the end of the match after a good performance how do you differentiate between boos for Kean and boos the players may feel are directed at them?
As far as Dan C is concerned. He makes some very valid points. The atmosphere at Ewood is not nice nowadays and a good part of that has to come down to the protesters as you don't quite know what they'll get up to next, especially when half of them appear to be still wet behind the ears.
Just a note to Makaveli - the Lancashire Telegraph (LT) not LET, which hasn't existed for some time, IS owned by an American company (Gannett).
And a note to the BRFCAfrica poster. Don't shout, but if you have to, please try to do it in English.

Dan, whilst i have not been that vocal against Steve Kean (compared to many), his constant habit of playing people out of position in a great square pegs in round holes that make Capello look like bob paisley, his cringeworthy inept tactics, his overly positive outlook that is so far completely without foundation, and his amateurish attempts at making us shut a game down and hold a lead, make reading your blog akin to the captain of the Titanic.... iceberg what iceberg, full steam ahead!

Well said Danny, as I keep saying, the hate agenda is out of control

no

Mr. Clough, I think you are a little off base on just about every point you raise.

First, you seem to imply that the protesters are contributing almost as much as Venky's lack of vision and Kean's lack of experience to the club's downfall.

Secondly, are protests by a small section of Rovers fans really turning the club into "a laughing stock?" Wouldn't fans of any Premiership club protest after a year that has seen the club go from a potential top ten club to relegation candidates (remember,
Venky's promised we'd be a top four club, fighting for a European Champions spot).

Thirdly, while not particularly relevant to his managerial skills, Kean's drunk-driving conviction is something that should not be glossed over. If players are supposed to be
role models for kids (and are criticized for "bad behavior"), shouldn't football managers be
held to the same standards? You say nothing about Kean's attempts to absolve himself of all blame instead of being a man and saying: "Look, I made a mistake...." I think such an admission would have gone a long way to making the "Kean Out" protests less personal. Moreover, your remark, "which of you protesting on the terraces is without a
driving ban or points on your licence?" is a bit of a spurious argument. Yes, people pick
up points for a variety of reasons, but what percentage of fans have been banned for drunk driving?

Your "hard luck" stories about Chelsea, Norwich, etc, just echo Kean's own. Of course, we've been playing better in the last few games. But we need to win. If we play
exceptionally well in the next six matches but bad refereeing decisions, bar/post hits, injuries, and last minute "undeserved" goals against us mean we only accumulate two more points, will Kean still need more time??? Even if performances continue to "improve?"

"The atmosphere at the club is awful," you say? "In-fighting is rife. People aren’t happy. But the only people who can change the atmosphere are the fans." Is this really true? The fans aren't responsible for the in-fighting or the atmosphere within the club. How can they change that? They can show their support inside the stadium and the majority of fans seem to be doing so. But if the club is falling apart from the inside, no amount of support from fans will rectify that. Only Venky's can change that.

"Kean is probably here to stay, no matter what. We just have to get over it," you claim. Really? So if we continue to get beat or just pick up the odd point and still have fewer than double digits come the New Year, we just have to "get over it?" No protests? No voicing your opinion? That to me sounds like advocating censorship. "Give
the team as much support as we can, and hope that things get better?" Right, good idea. And if things DON'T get better? Do you have a Plan B, Mr. Clough?

So, you are "fed up to the back teeth of hearing opinions construed as fact..." such as “Rovers WILL get relegated with Steve Kean in charge.” Well, yes that is an opinion.
But it is a reasonable supposition based on the fact that this season we've played 11 games and accumulated just six points (not to mention the win/loss ratio and points tally from last season). I guess it does overlook the fact that "our season begins at Wigan" (just as Kean claimed our season began after the transfer deadline ended with the new signings on board).

Your "idea of how to handle the Swansea game" is commendable if a bit simplistic. Of course Rovers fans want to support the team and I am sure most will try to adopt a positive attitude and cheer the players on. "Let’s see what effect that has," you say. But what if we still only get a point against Swansea or none at all? Again, do you have a Plan B Mr. Clough? Or do we just have to accept that this is the way things are and that fans should "just get over it?"

Why don't you do something useful and ask Venky's about the huge mortgage they've taken out against the clubs assets..

The sort of fan backlash that is currently being seen towards Steve Kean can be toxic for a football club, as the likes of Gary Megson (Bolton Wanderers) and to a slightly lesser extent, as he was a former player, Brain Laws (Burnley) know to their cost. However I agree with the writer of the article, as the vociferous minority of Rovers fans currently appear to be doing their club no favours, and if anything making the club's plight worse.

chocky wrote:
Why don't you do something useful and ask Venky's about the huge mortgage they've taken out against the clubs assets..

I second that. It would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons, would that one.

Somewhere between £70 - £100 MILLION.

Rose Rouge wrote:
The sort of fan backlash that is currently being seen towards Steve Kean can be toxic for a football club, as the likes of Gary Megson (Bolton Wanderers) and to a slightly lesser extent, as he was a former player, Brain Laws (Burnley) know to their cost. However I agree with the writer of the article, as the vociferous minority of Rovers fans currently appear to be doing their club no favours, and if anything making the club's plight worse.

Well why don't Venky's do the club a favour, and appoint a PROPER manager, that actually know's what he's doing?

Venky's Memo to 'Fans'

RE: you are free to do what we tell you club handbook 2011/12

1. No Banners
2. No Booing.
3. No Opinion.
4. No calling for the head of the chosen one.
5. No trumping or burping.
6 No reference to fowl play, chickens rings or KFC.
7 No aeroplanes, space ships or microlites.
8 No swearing
9 Please stand when the chosen one enters the dugout (with applause)
10 No laughing at the size of Dunny's shorts.

Follow the above, keep your mouths shut and stay positive.

Enjoy the game.

Sherwoodforest wrote:
Venky's Memo to 'Fans'

RE: you are free to do what we tell you club handbook 2011/12

1. No Banners
2. No Booing.
3. No Opinion.
4. No calling for the head of the chosen one.
5. No trumping or burping.
6 No reference to fowl play, chickens rings or KFC.
7 No aeroplanes, space ships or microlites.
8 No swearing
9 Please stand when the chosen one enters the dugout (with applause)
10 No laughing at the size of Dunny's shorts.

Follow the above, keep your mouths shut and stay positive.

Enjoy the game.

Sounds like a dictatorship to me. I don't know if there's any truth in the rumour, that Venky's plan to have anti-aircraft guns fitted to the stadium roofs, before the next home game, against Swansea.

I HOPE the single-minded protesters are proud of themselves.

Although they have good intentions deep down, they are helping to turn
our club into a laughing stock.

No – I think the club was already a laughing stock after the ‘we’re investing £5million for a top 4 finish’, ‘we’re can rent players’, ‘we’re going to buy Beckham’ comments from the club. That’s when I noticed the pundits on TV shows laughing (literally) at us. That’s when we started getting the jibes in the national papers, and that’s when I personally stopped being ribbed by colleagues who supported Man Utd, and started being taunted by those who support Bournemouth.

If it’s not Venky’s, it’s this group of fans helping to turn the whole
of the English football scene against us.

So determined are they to continue what is fast becoming a personal
vendetta against Steve Kean, they are actually causing more harm than
good to our once great football club.

The above two paragraphs are your opinion, not fact, Mr Clough. I operate in the academic world – if you offer a statement as fact, it should be backed up with evidence. Please provide your evidence that:
a) That whole of the English football world is turned against us and,
b) That protesters are actually causing more harm that good. Please quantify the harm.

It’s not just about his record, although no doubt you will argue it is.
It’s about him. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t bring his drink-driving
convictions into it.

Now you’ll argue his drink-driving convictions are relevant to our
plight. He who is without sin cast the first stone ... which of you
protesting on the terraces is without a driving ban or points on your
licence?

I for one. I have never been banned from driving for any reason, and certainly not drink-driving, which is a criminal offence. I have no points on my licence.

We played well enough on Saturday to get at least a point.

Unfortunately, we lost.

A point against a team that cost the equivalent of Greece’s current
deficit. Now that would have been a good result.

Indeed it would have been a good result – unfortunately, we lost.

We could, had luck gone our way, have snatched a victory. It wasn’t to be.

It’s the same story when you go back a week to the Norwich game.

What a boost that would have been had we come away with the points.

It certainly would have been – unfortunately we didn’t.

Unfortunately, once more Lady Luck was refereeing in favour of Norwich
City and our hopes were dashed.

It doesn’t take a footballing mastermind to see that performances are
improving.

Well, apart from the bit where we actually win. If only the league gave out points for artistic impression we’d be laughing.

Or that the players are there, week in, week out, fighting for their manager.

But not winning.

Andy Cryer is right. The atmosphere at the club is awful.

In-fighting is rife. People aren’t happy. But the only people who can
change the atmosphere are the fans.

Well, it might help of the people at the club made a start. They could stop the infighting, as a random example. After all, they are there day in day out, getting paid to run the club successfully. The fans just turn up on a Saturday, and have to pay for the privilege.

In my experience, the atmosphere at any organisation comes from the top, not the bottom. Perhaps the club’s management could do something to improve the atmosphere.

Kean is probably here to stay, no matter what. We just have to get over it.

Give the team as much support as we can, and hope that things get better.

The argument against that will come: “Things won’t get better. They can’t.”

How do you know? I’m fed up to the back teeth of hearing opinions
construed as fact in poorly-constructed press releases.

Me too, that’s why I find your opinions offered as fact slightly annoying.

I refer to facts such as: “Rovers WILL get relegated with Steve Kean in
charge”, and “fitness has got worse as a result of Steve Kean’s poor
training methods”.

How do people know this?

Answer, they don’t.

However, 6 points from 11 games is a return of 0.545 points per game. Extrapolated over the full season, we’re on course for a return of 20.72 (21) for a full season. This is not the top 10 finish that Mr Kean told us in the LET a couple of weeks ago that we were nearly on course.

How fed-up you must have been to have to read this ‘opinions
construed as fact in poorly-constructed press releases.’


Here’s my idea of how to handle the Swansea game, assuming Steve Kean
is still in the hotseat:

Arrive at the ground with a smile on your face
Walk, don’t march.
Stand for 90 minutes singing positive songs
Support the team
Applaud where appropriate
Here’s the big one. Don’t boo

Let’s see what effect that has.

I’ve got no problem with that, apart from the smile on my face bit – I always think random smilers are a bit spooky.

I’ll do a deal with you, I’ll do that, if the players work on the defence so we can keep a clean sheet (that’s where the opposition don’t score any goals for those of you who have forgotten what it means). Also, if we have a 2 – 0 going into injury time, that they don’t throw it away. Also, if we have a 2 – 0 lead going into injury time, don’t disturb the rhythm of the game by making a couple of senseless substitutions because you read it in the Boy’s Book of Football that it wastes a bit of time. If you want to waste time, get one of the players to snap his knicker elastic. It gives us all something to feel cheerful about, which is more than chucking away good leads does.

Stone Island wrote:

Sherwoodforest wrote: Venky's Memo to 'Fans' RE: you are free to do what we tell you club handbook 2011/12 1. No Banners 2. No Booing. 3. No Opinion. 4. No calling for the head of the chosen one. 5. No trumping or burping. 6 No reference to fowl play, chickens rings or KFC. 7 No aeroplanes, space ships or microlites. 8 No swearing 9 Please stand when the chosen one enters the dugout (with applause) 10 No laughing at the size of Dunny's shorts. Follow the above, keep your mouths shut and stay positive. Enjoy the game.

Sounds like a dictatorship to me. I don't know if there's any truth in the rumour, that Venky's plan to have anti-aircraft guns fitted to the stadium roofs, before the next home game, against Swansea.

They'd probably get Roberts to fire the guns - at least the pilot would be safe.

OxfordBlue wrote:
I HOPE the single-minded protesters are proud of themselves. Although they have good intentions deep down, they are helping to turn our club into a laughing stock. No – I think the club was already a laughing stock after the ‘we’re investing £5million for a top 4 finish’, ‘we’re can rent players’, ‘we’re going to buy Beckham’ comments from the club. That’s when I noticed the pundits on TV shows laughing (literally) at us. That’s when we started getting the jibes in the national papers, and that’s when I personally stopped being ribbed by colleagues who supported Man Utd, and started being taunted by those who support Bournemouth. If it’s not Venky’s, it’s this group of fans helping to turn the whole of the English football scene against us. So determined are they to continue what is fast becoming a personal vendetta against Steve Kean, they are actually causing more harm than good to our once great football club. The above two paragraphs are your opinion, not fact, Mr Clough. I operate in the academic world – if you offer a statement as fact, it should be backed up with evidence. Please provide your evidence that: a) That whole of the English football world is turned against us and, b) That protesters are actually causing more harm that good. Please quantify the harm. It’s not just about his record, although no doubt you will argue it is. It’s about him. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t bring his drink-driving convictions into it. Now you’ll argue his drink-driving convictions are relevant to our plight. He who is without sin cast the first stone ... which of you protesting on the terraces is without a driving ban or points on your licence? I for one. I have never been banned from driving for any reason, and certainly not drink-driving, which is a criminal offence. I have no points on my licence. We played well enough on Saturday to get at least a point. Unfortunately, we lost. A point against a team that cost the equivalent of Greece’s current deficit. Now that would have been a good result. Indeed it would have been a good result – unfortunately, we lost. We could, had luck gone our way, have snatched a victory. It wasn’t to be. It’s the same story when you go back a week to the Norwich game. What a boost that would have been had we come away with the points. It certainly would have been – unfortunately we didn’t. Unfortunately, once more Lady Luck was refereeing in favour of Norwich City and our hopes were dashed. It doesn’t take a footballing mastermind to see that performances are improving. Well, apart from the bit where we actually win. If only the league gave out points for artistic impression we’d be laughing. Or that the players are there, week in, week out, fighting for their manager. But not winning. Andy Cryer is right. The atmosphere at the club is awful. In-fighting is rife. People aren’t happy. But the only people who can change the atmosphere are the fans. Well, it might help of the people at the club made a start. They could stop the infighting, as a random example. After all, they are there day in day out, getting paid to run the club successfully. The fans just turn up on a Saturday, and have to pay for the privilege. In my experience, the atmosphere at any organisation comes from the top, not the bottom. Perhaps the club’s management could do something to improve the atmosphere. Kean is probably here to stay, no matter what. We just have to get over it. Give the team as much support as we can, and hope that things get better. The argument against that will come: “Things won’t get better. They can’t.” How do you know? I’m fed up to the back teeth of hearing opinions construed as fact in poorly-constructed press releases. Me too, that’s why I find your opinions offered as fact slightly annoying. I refer to facts such as: “Rovers WILL get relegated with Steve Kean in charge”, and “fitness has got worse as a result of Steve Kean’s poor training methods”. How do people know this? Answer, they don’t. However, 6 points from 11 games is a return of 0.545 points per game. Extrapolated over the full season, we’re on course for a return of 20.72 (21) for a full season. This is not the top 10 finish that Mr Kean told us in the LET a couple of weeks ago that we were nearly on course. How fed-up you must have been to have to read this ‘opinions construed as fact in poorly-constructed press releases.’ Here’s my idea of how to handle the Swansea game, assuming Steve Kean is still in the hotseat: Arrive at the ground with a smile on your face Walk, don’t march. Stand for 90 minutes singing positive songs Support the team Applaud where appropriate Here’s the big one. Don’t boo Let’s see what effect that has. I’ve got no problem with that, apart from the smile on my face bit – I always think random smilers are a bit spooky. I’ll do a deal with you, I’ll do that, if the players work on the defence so we can keep a clean sheet (that’s where the opposition don’t score any goals for those of you who have forgotten what it means). Also, if we have a 2 – 0 going into injury time, that they don’t throw it away. Also, if we have a 2 – 0 lead going into injury time, don’t disturb the rhythm of the game by making a couple of senseless substitutions because you read it in the Boy’s Book of Football that it wastes a bit of time. If you want to waste time, get one of the players to snap his knicker elastic. It gives us all something to feel cheerful about, which is more than chucking away good leads does.

Well said.

You should have Dan Clough's job because a journalist he most certainly isn't.

CONSPIRACY THEORY
Are you sitting comfortable? Then I will begin.
Let us imagine for a moment you had bought a Premiership football club for a knock down price of 26 million pounds, the price of a Manchester City defender, plus taking over a overdraft of a reputed 20 Million Pounds, the whole deal would have cost you 46 million, a very modest sum. Well covered by the clubs assets including property, land and players valuation.
Let us imagine in your infinite wisdom you hired a London based sports agency to run the clubs affairs and advise you on the way forward.
Let us then imagine you then instructed your advisor to make sure that within 12 months your team will be condemned to almost certain relegation to the Championship.
To achieve this you want the experienced and the more than capable manager you have adopted sacked and replaced with a novice so far out of his depth no descent player will sign for him, you will not give him any substantial monies for transfer fees and leave him to sink or swim, making a fool of himself as time goes by.
Let us then imagine you want to alienate the clubs supporters by leaving them in the dark, not making any meaningful statements or outlining your plans for the future, except to say that on your arrival Rovers should have been in the top four of the Premiership and playing in Europe!
Let us then imagine you ignore fans protest at being bottom of the Premiership and completely ignore the calls for the manager to be sacked. Let us then imagine your response is to issue a statement saying the manager will be given an extension to his current contract and you think he is a “Brilliant manager”, completely ignoring his record of just four wins from thirty two games.
Let us then imagine that fans begin boycotting games and attendances start to fall none more so than the Carling Cup tie v Newcastle when visiting fans outnumbered home supporters, previously unknown at any Ewood Park game.
Let us then imagine you are not prepared to do anything about it all and leave the club to sink into the abyss.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Well done the Rao family and agent Jerome Anderson, you have achieved your aim, but why?
A thought occurs to me, following the corruption trial re: the Pakistan cricketers, an interesting conspiracy theory has arisen.
The gambling industry on the sub-continent is reputed to be worth 50 BILLION POUNDS PER ANNUM, YES! 50 BILLION, according to the trial judge, an unbelievable amount of money.
Could it be the Rovers are the victims of a very clever sting? Unknown to players, management and supporters. Rovers where 6 / 1 with bookmakers to be relegated before the season began, not a bad price, they are now odds on!
Scare mongering? Possibly. Outrageous theory? more than likely. Completely over the top? most definitely.
My apologies for any offence caused.
BUT HAS ANYONE A BETTER THEORY?
The club is in complete disarray and no one apart from the supporters seems to care.
Kean and Venkys show a complete disregard for the clubs plight and give the impression they are just interested in ‘RIDING THE GRAVY TRAIN’.
Reg
www.regoftherovers.c
o.uk

DEFEAT AT WIGAN. UNTHINKABLE
Defeat at Wigan in Rovers next game would plunge Rovers to rock bottom of the Premiership and a widening gap appear between 20th position and the safety of 17th position. Already that gap is dangerously appearing following the weekend Premiership results.
The usual hard luck stories were trotted out by Kean, “we should of won the game, we missed to many chances, we were the better team” so on and so on.
We have heard it all before, “should have won at Norwich, should have drawn with Spurs, should have beaten Everton” so on and so on.
We have heard it all before Mr Kean, the fact of the matter is you just cannot win football matches; it is not in your makeup to do so. A good coach you may be, a good football manager you are certainly not. It is just a fact of life some people are good at something’s and bad at others, Sam Allardyce is good at winning football matches, does not matter how he wins them he just does. You Mr Kean have not a clue how to win a football match.
I don’t think you can help it, it is just one of those things.
I have no doubt that if God forbid, we lose at Wigan you will do the honourable thing and resign.
But I am not holding my breath.
Reg.
www.regoftherovers.c
o.uk

ROVERS FANS CONDEMNED
Match of the day pundit Mark Lawrenson condemned Rovers fans for their Kean out protest following the Chelsea game. Lawrenson stated that the Rovers performance on the day did not merit the resulting protest.
Mark you completely miss the point.
The fans protest was not the result of a unlucky 0-1 defeat to Chelsea.
What the long suffering fans are objecting to is the continuation of employing a manager who just cannot win football matches especially when the more than capable Sam Allardyce was brutally sacrificed for the inadequate Kean.
It does not really matter what Kean achieves from now on or what performances the players produce, the damage is done.
Kean has been the architect of his own downfall.
His part in the sacking of Allardyce will never be forgiven.
His continued blasé attitude to Rovers league position and still promising an unrealistic top half finish is just adding insult to injury.
This is a man who could not work with Chairman John Williams and was instrumental in the excellent Williams leaving the club. Who on earth cannot work with John Williams?
This is a man who made life hell for the departed assistant John Jensen, by completely ignoring him and not speaking to him for weeks on end.
This is a man who gave failed football player Myles Anderson a contract as a favour to his father Jerome Anderson, Kean’s agent.
This is a man who dismisses supporter’s opinions out of hand.
This is a man who will not attend a fans forum, unlike all previous Rovers managers.
This is a man who this weekend stated he did not know how the new contract for Junior Hoilett was progressing despite previous statements that the deal was almost done.
This is a man who blatantly tells lie after lie.
This is a man who is a convicted drink driver and represents our once proud club.
This is a man who knows that following his treachery he is virtually unemployable at any other football club.
This is a man who facing the dole que is clinging on to his job like grim death and will have to be dragged from Ewood Park kicking and screaming.
This is man who states that it is the minority who want him sacked, is he completely oblivious to everything going on around him, nobody but nobody at Blackburn likes him.
This is a man who denies seeing an aircraft with a noisy engine dragging a KEAN OUT banner above Ewood Park during the Chelsea game when everyone else including Phil Thompson in the Sky TV studio saw it, why not just say you saw it, why continue telling lies. Maybe telling lies has just become a way of life to Mr Kean, obviously picking up on some of the sub-continent culture.
This is a man who flew to Belgium to watch Chelsea when it was live on TV, WHY? Perhaps Kean just likes flying, when is the next pointless trip to India?
This is a man who treats all supporters like idiots with outlandish statement after outlandish statement.
This is a man who just cannot win football matches, 4 wins from 32 games and still counting.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE REASONS MR MARK LAWRENSON WHY THE ROVERS FANS WERE PROTESTING ‘ KEAN OUT ‘ AND THE PROTEST WILL NOW CONTINUE WEEK IN WEEK OUT UNFORTUNATELY REGARDLESS OF PERFORMANCES BY THE TEAM BECAUSE STEVE KEAN IS JUST THOROUGHLY DISLIKED.
SIMPLY AS THAT.
Reg
www.regoftherovers.c
o.uk

BRFCINAFRICA wrote:
RIGHT ALL YOU STUPID A**HOLES THAT CALL YOURSELF BRFC FANS - DO US ALL A FAVOUR A F**K OFF!!!!! STAY AT HOME - SIT IN YOUR ROOM - JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB! YOU ARE RUINING OUR IMAGE AND HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO RECRUIT PLAYERS IN JANUARY YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE!!! YOU ALL HAVE NO COMMON SENSE!!! YOU ARE ALL SO THICK!!!! WHY WOULD A TOP PLAYER COME TO EWOOD PARK WHEN LARGE SECTIONS OF SO CALLED FANS SLATE THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS AND THE STAFF AND THE OWNERS!!!! GROW UP USE YOUR BRAINS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE ALL DOING TO OUR CLUB THEN I PITTY YOU!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!

says someone called brfcinafrica. bet youv'e never been to a game t0sser

slongio wrote:

jackslad1955 wrote:
Well if BRFCAFRICA ia an example of the flat earthers I'm so very glad I'm an anti, and just a thought but how come a lot of thr give him more time crew live abroad?? just a thought. Keep on arguing boys Venkys couldn't have divided us more if they had tried.

Possibly because a lot of the protesters are kids or the majority of the flat earthers are of the older generation who have been going down ewood through the harder times and not just the heady premiership times! Just a thought......

the fact that i'm an old timer makes me not want to go down that road again, which it seems we are going to be doing with this lot running the show.

A regular poster on here, Bazzer, has recently made several references to the Bhatti Brothers, who bought Wolves, in the eighties. For those who can't remember, here's a brief summary of what happened.

In 1982, Wolves were relegated from the first division. The club was then taken over by the unknown Bhatti Brothers. They promised the earth, and most people were taken in by their big talk. Sound familiar? Anyway, they managed to get promoted back to the First Division at the first attempt.

The Bhatti Brothers were the best thing since sliced bread, but lots of fans remained unconvinced of their true intentions, and were suspicious of their motives, due to their lack of footballing knowledge. Sound familiar?

The fans doubts and suspicions were not without foundation, as the once mighty Wolves' catastrophic fall from grace began.

Three CONSECUTIVE relegation's, left the once proud Wolves in the fourth division, all but bankrupt and facing extinction.

Researching this earlier today, sent a shiver down my spine. I'm not saying for one minute, that this will happen to Rovers. But, it just makes you think, what can happen to a famous old football club, if it has the misfortune to fall into the hands of a couple of half-witted brothers, who know nothing about football.

ossyrover1 wrote:

slongio wrote:

jackslad1955 wrote:
Well if BRFCAFRICA ia an example of the flat earthers I'm so very glad I'm an anti, and just a thought but how come a lot of thr give him more time crew live abroad?? just a thought. Keep on arguing boys Venkys couldn't have divided us more if they had tried.

Possibly because a lot of the protesters are kids or the majority of the flat earthers are of the older generation who have been going down ewood through the harder times and not just the heady premiership times! Just a thought......

the fact that i'm an old timer makes me not want to go down that road again, which it seems we are going to be doing with this lot running the show.

Thanks for your thoughts slongio but I'm not exactly a spring chicken( sorry for the pun) the 1955 is the year of my birthand this is my 50th year as a Rovers fan, I am a season-ticket holder and have been as long as I can remember but I'm not going to Ewood again while Kean is in charge, I've been to halifax, oxford, plymouth etc etc and even cambridge away on a tuesday night so I think I'm allowed an opinion if it's ok with you, these owners and this manager are the worst combination I've seen and if what I'm hearing today in confidence is true then I and the other protesters will be vindicated totally, so enjoy it up there on your high horse because the landing will be very painful I'm sorry to say.

BRFCINAFRICA wrote:
RIGHT ALL YOU STUPID A**HOLES THAT CALL YOURSELF BRFC FANS - DO US ALL A FAVOUR A F**K OFF!!!!! STAY AT HOME - SIT IN YOUR ROOM - JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB! YOU ARE RUINING OUR IMAGE AND HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO RECRUIT PLAYERS IN JANUARY YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE!!! YOU ALL HAVE NO COMMON SENSE!!! YOU ARE ALL SO THICK!!!! WHY WOULD A TOP PLAYER COME TO EWOOD PARK WHEN LARGE SECTIONS OF SO CALLED FANS SLATE THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS AND THE STAFF AND THE OWNERS!!!! GROW UP USE YOUR BRAINS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE ALL DOING TO OUR CLUB THEN I PITTY YOU!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!

Your the A**hole! Do you really think any fan wants to see their team in this mess? Would I not prefer that Kean had been a roaring success? That Venky's actually did a little thinking before they made ridiculous decisions one after the next. We were always a well run club, I used to take the Pi** out of my geordie pals about the goings on up there. Can't do that anymore. You may be content to sit like a stuffed **** watching the club being sent to oblivion. I for one am not. You need to vent your spleen in the right direction. Kean's record is the Joke, but a really sh*t one. He has 90minutes to get our team to beat the whipping boys of the league. If not F OFF, and perhaps you could take him in. You can spout your cr*p to each other.

jackslad1955 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

slongio wrote:

jackslad1955 wrote:
Well if BRFCAFRICA ia an example of the flat earthers I'm so very glad I'm an anti, and just a thought but how come a lot of thr give him more time crew live abroad?? just a thought. Keep on arguing boys Venkys couldn't have divided us more if they had tried.

Possibly because a lot of the protesters are kids or the majority of the flat earthers are of the older generation who have been going down ewood through the harder times and not just the heady premiership times! Just a thought......

the fact that i'm an old timer makes me not want to go down that road again, which it seems we are going to be doing with this lot running the show.

Thanks for your thoughts slongio but I'm not exactly a spring chicken( sorry for the pun) the 1955 is the year of my birthand this is my 50th year as a Rovers fan, I am a season-ticket holder and have been as long as I can remember but I'm not going to Ewood again while Kean is in charge, I've been to halifax, oxford, plymouth etc etc and even cambridge away on a tuesday night so I think I'm allowed an opinion if it's ok with you, these owners and this manager are the worst combination I've seen and if what I'm hearing today in confidence is true then I and the other protesters will be vindicated totally, so enjoy it up there on your high horse because the landing will be very painful I'm sorry to say.

Wooh old timer don't start with the attitude all right! Think you will find what i stated was on average factually correct! I have my opinions but i'm fed up of expressing them so if you want an argument go and find someone else!
I stated a few weeks ago that venkys should have been weighing up other options but i'm more fed up with all this sh*t on here than i am with kean personally at the moment so if you choose to rip your ticket up you do that! I will wave at you from way on up high smart ****.....

Stone Island wrote:
A regular poster on here, Bazzer, has recently made several references to the Bhatti Brothers, who bought Wolves, in the eighties. For those who can't remember, here's a brief summary of what happened.

In 1982, Wolves were relegated from the first division. The club was then taken over by the unknown Bhatti Brothers. They promised the earth, and most people were taken in by their big talk. Sound familiar? Anyway, they managed to get promoted back to the First Division at the first attempt.

The Bhatti Brothers were the best thing since sliced bread, but lots of fans remained unconvinced of their true intentions, and were suspicious of their motives, due to their lack of footballing knowledge. Sound familiar?

The fans doubts and suspicions were not without foundation, as the once mighty Wolves' catastrophic fall from grace began.

Three CONSECUTIVE relegation's, left the once proud Wolves in the fourth division, all but bankrupt and facing extinction.

Researching this earlier today, sent a shiver down my spine. I'm not saying for one minute, that this will happen to Rovers. But, it just makes you think, what can happen to a famous old football club, if it has the misfortune to fall into the hands of a couple of half-witted brothers, who know nothing about football.

Stone Island you are not listening to what Dan is saying: Don't Worry, Be Happy!

I've just Googled the 'Bhatti Brothers' and as you point out many people were fooled by them. I'm still clinging to the belief that the Venky's are just receiving bad advise but as time goes on it does look like vandalism of our club. Almost as bad is what it's doing to the fans whichever view they hold.

Just when will this fcuking nightmare end?

http://www.mirrorfoo
tball.co.uk/transfer
-news/EXCLUSIVE-Stev
e-Kean-signs-new-imp
roved-Blackburn-deal
-as-Venkys-put-money
-where-mouth-is-arti
cle828841.html

Stone Island wrote:
Just when will this fcuking nightmare end?

http://www.mirrorfoo

tball.co.uk/transfer

-news/EXCLUSIVE-Stev

e-Kean-signs-new-imp

roved-Blackburn-deal

-as-Venkys-put-money

-where-mouth-is-arti

cle828841.html

If this is true, then Venky's really are a DESPICABLE bunch of two hats! They have obviously NOT got the best interests of BRFC at heart. They must have ulterior motives. There is no other logical explanation.

Venky's and Steve Kean: I have more contempt for you, than I do for Burnley!

Stone Island wrote:

Stone Island wrote:
Just when will this fcuking nightmare end?

http://www.mirrorfoo


tball.co.uk/transfer


-news/EXCLUSIVE-Stev


e-Kean-signs-new-imp


roved-Blackburn-deal


-as-Venkys-put-money


-where-mouth-is-arti


cle828841.html

If this is true, then Venky's really are a DESPICABLE bunch of two hats! They have obviously NOT got the best interests of BRFC at heart. They must have ulterior motives. There is no other logical explanation.

Venky's and Steve Kean: I have more contempt for you, than I do for Burnley!

Dail Mail reported the same on the 24th October:

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2053007/Bl
ackburn-Rovers-offer
-Steve-Kean-new-deal
.html

When questioned about it at the press conference before the Norwich match Kean didn't deny it just smiled. Guess some fans will be happy especially of Bolton, Wigan and Wolves.

What is happening to our great club is starting to mirror exactly what happened at the Wolves about 30 years ago. Early propaganda. Derek Dougan was installed as the P.R. frontman. Then the rapid slide and the disagreements amongst supporters about loyalty, being positive or negative, being "proper" fans etc. etc.
They did not fly a plane over Molineux like we have done. When the Bhattis had finished with the Wolves though, they were rock bottom with three parts of the ground unusable. It looked like the Bhattis had sent over their own planes and bombed the ground to bits.

spot on!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with protesting, Rovers results under Kean and lets not forget, Venky's, have been abysmal and the fans, who are actually the lifeblood of the Club do have a right to have their say.
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The fans are the only constant at any Club, the rest are just passengers earning a living.
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Where the protesters have gone wrong is their personal attacks on Kean, before and after games, with the most damaging being the fly past during the Chelsea game, at the time we were holding our own against Chelsea, but the concentration of the players was affected and a better, or more in form side would have taken full advantage and buried us during that awful 10 - 15 minute period.
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I would suspect that had Chelsea scored a couple of goals during that period of time the protesters would have been justified in blaming Kean for that as well?
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It really is bad news for any Club when sections of their support appear to want the Club to loose games so they can get the manager sacked, but that is the only conclusion that can be drawn from this.
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I also suspect, from various comments made on this post "Keans involvement in the sacking of Alardyce" being one, is one of the main reasons for for this group of supporters antipathy, in their eyes Alardyce was "God", irrespective of the fact he was touting himself all around Europe and the UAE because he was too good to be Rovers manager.
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Alardyce would have dumped Rovers the moment he received a better, just like Mark Hughes did. And he would have taken all his backroom staff with him as well, just like Hughes did.
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Its time for this to stop, by all means protest after the games, especially if we play badly or get hammered but not before and during.
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Kean is the easy target, his lack of experience, his blunt attitude isn't going to endear him to fans even if he was successful, but lets not forget who the real villains are; Venky's.
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Like him or not Kean is attempting to play good football, the team are playing for him, he is bringing good, young players through, all that is missing is that little touch of luck.

Excellent article and about time too.
Pity the delinquents behaving like the tools they are probably cant read the article.

moggy669 wrote:
Excellent article and about time too.
Pity the delinquents behaving like the tools they are probably cant read the article.

You're a tool.

The clubs image has been damaged for some time now,it didn't need the help of the supporters to do that.
I have spoken with a number of people from across the UK who support various teams,and all have scratched their heads at what is happening down at Ewood Park,and especially mentioning the fact that Kean is still employed.
Don't blame the fans,this situation rests soley on the shoulders of the owners and their excuse of a manager.
Yes the players will say they support him if asked by the press,otherwise they won't be playing in the next match.
By the way do you not think the media has played its part in making the club a laughing stock Isn't it you and your like who prints all the verbal crap that comes from the club?
These fans have a right to their voice,they pay good money to support their team,and they can see the way things are,and the way they are going under this present regime.

halfhearted wrote:
The clubs image has been damaged for some time now,it didn't need the help of the supporters to do that.
I have spoken with a number of people from across the UK who support various teams,and all have scratched their heads at what is happening down at Ewood Park,and especially mentioning the fact that Kean is still employed.
Don't blame the fans,this situation rests soley on the shoulders of the owners and their excuse of a manager.
Yes the players will say they support him if asked by the press,otherwise they won't be playing in the next match.
By the way do you not think the media has played its part in making the club a laughing stock Isn't it you and your like who prints all the verbal crap that comes from the club?
These fans have a right to their voice,they pay good money to support their team,and they can see the way things are,and the way they are going under this present regime.

If you actually bothered to read what I wrote I actually agree with what you are saying.
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I simply don't believe the protests and levels of personal abuse aimed at Kean before and now during the game are acceptable, they are damaging the Club.
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Venky's are extremely adept at that, they don't need any assistance whatsoever.
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As I said, by all means protest after the game, or even during if we are playing badly (which we are not doing), or getting hammered.
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But not just for the sake of it because you have embarked on a route you cannot now deviate from because you will loose face.

It,s not just in the U.K. that we are being laughed at for being run by chicken farmers who know nothing about football and by a manager who is delusional at best ,but the thing that i am really getting fed up of trying to defend is why the Rovers fans are being "shafted" without complaint.Guess i should just respond in future by telling them that we "don,t want to damage the clubs image". That'll shut em up, eh?

owd nick wrote:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with protesting, Rovers results under Kean and lets not forget, Venky's, have been abysmal and the fans, who are actually the lifeblood of the Club do have a right to have their say.
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The fans are the only constant at any Club, the rest are just passengers earning a living.
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Where the protesters have gone wrong is their personal attacks on Kean, before and after games, with the most damaging being the fly past during the Chelsea game, at the time we were holding our own against Chelsea, but the concentration of the players was affected and a better, or more in form side would have taken full advantage and buried us during that awful 10 - 15 minute period.
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I would suspect that had Chelsea scored a couple of goals during that period of time the protesters would have been justified in blaming Kean for that as well?
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It really is bad news for any Club when sections of their support appear to want the Club to loose games so they can get the manager sacked, but that is the only conclusion that can be drawn from this.
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I also suspect, from various comments made on this post "Keans involvement in the sacking of Alardyce" being one, is one of the main reasons for for this group of supporters antipathy, in their eyes Alardyce was "God", irrespective of the fact he was touting himself all around Europe and the UAE because he was too good to be Rovers manager.
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Alardyce would have dumped Rovers the moment he received a better, just like Mark Hughes did. And he would have taken all his backroom staff with him as well, just like Hughes did.
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Its time for this to stop, by all means protest after the games, especially if we play badly or get hammered but not before and during.
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Kean is the easy target, his lack of experience, his blunt attitude isn't going to endear him to fans even if he was successful, but lets not forget who the real villains are; Venky's.
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Like him or not Kean is attempting to play good football, the team are playing for him, he is bringing good, young players through, all that is missing is that little touch of luck.

fck off. what a pile of ****.

I rest my case m'lud, this one comment, so reasoned, so clear, and presenting such a concise appraisal of the situation in just six words of one syllable.
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Nothing more to say.

this is ridiculous reporting, just your own personal opinion. Supporters aren't making this proud club a laughing stock, from the moment Venkys walked in THEIR RECORD is a laughing stock. I have protested, i have supported Rovers since 1969, I have a degree in Mathematics, don't tell me I'm an idiot and that I don't have Rovers future at heart. Jack Walker built this club to compete at the highest level, we are sinking fast and doubt we will return as in 2001.

I have only just seen this page and as with the general thrust of comments here I have to say this article is scandelous to say the least, if not insulting to many many true Rovers fans.

So the LET aren't prepared to be openly critical of Venkys or fans, nor do they have the balls to have provided a poll on the manager in the YEAR since he's been here, yet this author feels he is entitled to openly condemn honest upset fans in this manner?

Very disappointing article indeed. Poor show L.E.T. At least we know what your true colours are.

Long live the Venkys eh and the brilliant Steve Kean eh? We have no right to be critical of them apparantly.
-D.K.O

ChrisSutton wrote:
I have only just seen this page and as with the general thrust of comments here I have to say this article is scandelous to say the least, if not insulting to many many true Rovers fans.

So the LET aren't prepared to be openly critical of Venkys or fans, nor do they have the balls to have provided a poll on the manager in the YEAR since he's been here, yet this author feels he is entitled to openly condemn honest upset fans in this manner?

Very disappointing article indeed. Poor show L.E.T. At least we know what your true colours are.

Long live the Venkys eh and the brilliant Steve Kean eh? We have no right to be critical of them apparantly.
-D.K.O

ChrisSutton, I have criticised Venky's and Steve Kean in previous columns.

I have never stated that either is good or given my support to them.

Everyone has a right to voice their opinion, but out and out protesting that does nothing other than make the players feel unhappy, having a detrimental effect on their performance is just wrong.

I urge you to read the article again and tell me at what point I say I am in support of either the manager and the owners.

BRFCINAFRICA wrote:
RIGHT ALL YOU STUPID A**HOLES THAT CALL YOURSELF BRFC FANS - DO US ALL A FAVOUR A F**K OFF!!!!! STAY AT HOME - SIT IN YOUR ROOM - JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB! YOU ARE RUINING OUR IMAGE AND HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO RECRUIT PLAYERS IN JANUARY YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE!!! YOU ALL HAVE NO COMMON SENSE!!! YOU ARE ALL SO THICK!!!! WHY WOULD A TOP PLAYER COME TO EWOOD PARK WHEN LARGE SECTIONS OF SO CALLED FANS SLATE THE TEAM AND THE PLAYERS AND THE STAFF AND THE OWNERS!!!! GROW UP USE YOUR BRAINS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU ARE ALL DOING TO OUR CLUB THEN I PITTY YOU!!!! YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!

!! Dr Kn#bhead I presume !!!