Blackburn Rovers blog: Kean was on hiding to nothing at Cottage (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I can already tell this post is going to be extremely popular.

I for one went mad for BFS to leave Blackburn, in the weeks running upto his sacking i vowed never to go to another Rovers match under big sam, the football was hurrendous and every game was an excercise in hoof-ball.

I'll say this, at least now were playing some attractive football with some young talent. Kean clearly is clueless but i do feel like its a little too early to bring the hammer down just yet. Another 3-5 games and if were in the same situation then its time for him to go.

"Recently, Kean has become the new target for Rovers fans’ hatred of Venky’s." - I dont believe that at all, as naieve as Venky's are, they've provided investment and given us a more pronounced identity. Thier learning and I'm glad thier in charge and not the Jack Walker Trust, because under JWT we would have probably been in the championship by now.

Come on Jason - you really think we are going to get that much change out of Arsenal, Newcastle and City?

The man has taken us on a downward spiral the past 26 games. So don't say the timing is bizarre.

What's 'bizarre' is how he was appointed in the first place and how his position is seemingly secure.

He's already lost winnable games this season, so in reality we will probably be rooted to the foot of the prem with 1 point after 7 games. Judge that in isolation!!!

Another thing - BFS & Paul Ince had horrific team selection.

Who can say they wouldnt have picked the exact team that Kean put out on Sunday? Formica, Goodwillie, Rochina, Dunn, Dann, Samba + Hoillett all starting.

The problem with Kean is his tactical analysis of the game, when Givet was getting turned inside out he did nothing to change it around, he took Rochina off instead of Goodwillie and the rest were unfortunate injury incidents as per the everton game.

We have had 4 games and are still on one point and in the Everton game Kean did not select any of his new signingsin the starting line? Why sign the Yak if we don't play him? Why play Givet at left back and leave Olsson on the bench?
If we leave the situation 4 more games and we still have 1 point what kind of situation does the new manager inherit as it will take another 2 or 3 games to appoint someone?We will be relegation fodder if we dont stop this rot.

Any chance we could do away with Steve Kean's terminology of "positive result" and use the words win, lose and draw instead.I can only assume it's his way of making a draw sound better than it actually is. DKO

Agree, it is now Kean's team and he will be judged accordingly. Being ultra-generous, why not, it's nearly Xmas, let's assume Kean's team came into effect the day the transfer window closed, so the first outing of Kean's new team was the Fulham game.
Optimistically we got a point away to a team who are strong at home, but struggling like us under a new manager.
A couple of real worries. Rovers ran out of steam, which indicates a lot of them are not match fit. Secondly, there was a lot of effort from Goodwillie but no real threat or skill, excepting the bicycle kick, why leave him on ? Kean could have given the Yak a run out for the last 10 to 15 minutes.
Nzonzi's lack of pace and urgency is now chronic, the lad has had two seasons to fit in. Tiem to give Petro a chance of a start.
When I first saw the opening fixtures, I would have reckoned for at least 4 points from 4. Now Kean's in full control, I am struggling to see where the points will come against Arsenal, City and the Magpies - unless Arsenal have really collapsed, 2 out of 3 would be a tad over-optimistic.
It's still grim.

bburnrover wrote:
We have had 4 games and are still on one point and in the Everton game Kean did not select any of his new signingsin the starting line? Why sign the Yak if we don't play him? Why play Givet at left back and leave Olsson on the bench?
If we leave the situation 4 more games and we still have 1 point what kind of situation does the new manager inherit as it will take another 2 or 3 games to appoint someone?We will be relegation fodder if we dont stop this rot.

There have been a lot of people complaining about Kean's team selection at the weekend, but I can't see what was wrong. People have been screaming for him to include Goodwillie, Formica and Rochina from the start. When he does, they say he should have played Yakuba. I'm all for playing attacking football, but don't you think it would be a good idea to also have 1 or 2 defenders on the pitch as well? Olsson was feeling a strain after playing for Sweden in midweek, which is why he didn't start.

People are calling for Kean's head, but who should we get in in his place. Hughes is unlikely to come back. People were calling for Martin Jol to be our manager - well after the start Fulham have had, then I'm sure they'd be willing to listen to offers, but is that really the best idea? Benitez is another name mentioned - he turned Liverpool into a mediocre side, and then went and destroyed Champion's League-winning Inter in a matter of months.

The players seem to be behind Kean, Dann (who looked like a class act) came to the club because of Kean. He's had one game since the transfer window closed, and I don't remember feeling like Fulham were going to score a winner at any point on saturday. A draw away is not a bad result. I'm not saying Kean is my first choice as boss, but I think he should at least be given a few games to see how the squad he's assembled performs, before we bring out the knives.

Sorry....MxMave, where is this attractive football you're talking about? Because Vs. Fulham, I dont think I've ever seen so many long balls being hoofed by Robinson into their box for their keeper to happily collect, or into the corners for Hoilett/Rochina to chase. The standard of football has gone distinctly downhill since Kean took charge.

In all honesty, if we were playing better but losing, I think people would be willing to give Kean time...but unfortunately, Kean technically has a better squad than Allardyce had, but the standard of football is worse. Add that to the clear lack of fitness for a number of our players on Sunday and you start to question his training methods as well as his ability to motivate his team on a matchday.

I'm all for giving Kean time...but I'm starting to get fed up of his constant excuses.

Oh and Mike D...I completely agree with you, I don't remember feeling like Fulham were going to score a winner on Saturday either...However from about 5.10pm on Sunday I did.

I don't want to be painted as Venky's PR or a Kean lover, but

The BBC website has a predictor for all the league games. Having spent days poring over it trying to work out if we might just have found a goalscorer, I've worked out this.

We'll have 2 points at the end of Sept, 9 by the end of November, and 21 by the end of Dec. We'll hit 45 points by the end of April, and not need to worry about last day stresses against Chelsea.

My point is this, when the fixture list was released, I joked with my colleagues that we'd have a good run of games come APRIL, we have not got any other stretch of the season where we face winnable games back to back. December should be a good month right up until we play Liverpool on Boxing Day and then Man Utd to end the year positively.

Ok the first 4 games have gone against us, but did anyone really expect us to beat Villa, Wolves was a bad game, we should have done better against Everton and the scoreline doesn't reflect on how well we played, and as the article says Fulham WAS a good result. Its all about perspective, look at what fixtures we've played, the only team to finish below us was Wolves, who in signing Johnson, probably did one of the best pre-deadline day bits of business in the league.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather we were at the pointy end too, but Alan Shearer doesn't play for us and nor does Colin Hendry, we are a club in transition, and its started with a few teething problems. But sacking the manager after four tough games where if we'd been able to score penalties we'd now be in tenth in the league. That's right, half a division above where we are now, with Everton propping up the league.

At last some contributors writing positive articles. Remember the word 'supporters', not knocking players, the manager and the owners.
Kean is damned if he does not select certain players and then damned if he does.
It is a long season and the target set is midway, an improvementg of 5 places. I believe it is still possible with the current squad.
Get behind the team, negative vibes can only affect the players out on the pitch.
There are a number of contributors to other sites who are doing the devil's work of the media who have it in for the Rovers to start with

I'm at a loss to understand why BRFC need a manager at all. After reading some recent comments on here there is obviously some hidden talent amongst our ranks. So lets have a look at who is likely to play against the Gunners, Robinson...kicks ball to far up field, Salgardo...past it, Samba...not fit, Dann...not match fit, Olsen...carrying injury, Dunn..should be put out to grass, Roberts..get rid, oh I'd better stop I'm struggling for a team already.
Lets talk formation, oh no too many variants on that 2 up front...which 2, one up front..which 1, 5 in midfield..to negative, 3 in midfield..just daft.

We've a young manager and a young and talented team that needs time to bloom, disappointed yes, down hearted not yet. After watching the season so far, apart from the top 3 teams there is little between the rest, and I think Arsenal and Newcastle can be 6 points if the fans get behind the manager and team.......it will be 0 points if we start slagging off our own on Saturday afternoon

Steve Kean is on a hiding to nothing because he is a lying, drink driving, waste of space as a manager. His results have been tragic, we avoided relegation on the last day of the season, we had our worst run for thirty odd years, we lost our first three games against opposition that isn't that good and this buffoon keeps spouting off as if we will challenge for the league, total garbage from the bald one every time he opens his mouth. He couldn't lie straight in bed

blue_n_white99 wrote:
Steve Kean is on a hiding to nothing because he is a lying, drink driving, waste of space as a manager. His results have been tragic, we avoided relegation on the last day of the season, we had our worst run for thirty odd years, we lost our first three games against opposition that isn't that good and this buffoon keeps spouting off as if we will challenge for the league, total garbage from the bald one every time he opens his mouth. He couldn't lie straight in bed

Oh No - you cannot be serious -Steve is my hero.

This from the bloke who was texting folk to say Kean had been sacked yesterday!
What a load of rot, "taking games in isolation"
How can you take your fourth game in isolation whn you have lost the first 3?

Don't foget that the squad that Kean inherited had finished 10th the season before. That same squad then slumped into a relegation battle and were only saved on the last day of the season.
Having had a full summmer to play new players in and get the best out of the old ones, we started by losing 2-1 at home to the team we beaten 3-2 away the last game of last season. Clearly Wolves had learnt and Kean hadn't.
I don't follow this line of "we always lose at Villa" as if it doesn't matter. Villa have lost key players, Young, Downing and have a new and unpopular manager of whom it can scarcely be said has the fans behind him. But in a short time, McLeish seems to have motivated his Villa better than Kean.
Everton at home - not one penny spent by Everton over summer. Are these the "tough" games mentioned above ?
The team is not fit and we have a supposed excellent coach in charge.
On Sunday there was no eagerness to have the ball, no closing down when Fulham had the ball and no consistent threat up front.
Perhaps if Kean starts to train the squad rather than commuting to Pune and Surrey, the fans a might have sympathy and the players some respect.

The majority if fans dont have any issues with venkys, they started out a little bit silly with the likes of Ronaldiniho, Beckham et al, but i think the players they have brought in this transfer window, show they are prepared toremier invest in BRFC.

The problem is SK, he isnt, and never will be cut out to be a manager

Premier league manager-your havin a laugh.

MxMave wrote:
I can already tell this post is going to be extremely popular.

I for one went mad for BFS to leave Blackburn, in the weeks running upto his sacking i vowed never to go to another Rovers match under big sam, the football was hurrendous and every game was an excercise in hoof-ball.

I'll say this, at least now were playing some attractive football with some young talent. Kean clearly is clueless but i do feel like its a little too early to bring the hammer down just yet. Another 3-5 games and if were in the same situation then its time for him to go.

"Recently, Kean has become the new target for Rovers fans’ hatred of Venky’s." - I dont believe that at all, as naieve as Venky's are, they've provided investment and given us a more pronounced identity. Thier learning and I'm glad thier in charge and not the Jack Walker Trust, because under JWT we would have probably been in the championship by now.

he is the manager who signed your hero Jason roberts up nice seeing him get a contract let alone a number under BFS burnley fans are so happy..

if after another 3 or 4 games where still on 1 point we would be virtual releagtion certs, cant you fence sitting/head buried in the sand supporters see that, even if a new manager came in at that point it would still take a miracle of sorts to avoid releagtion.

I get the feeling sometimes there a large group of supporters that would like to see rovers get relegatad for some warped reason(like theyd get too see rovers win more and score more!).

This is shear madness. All this in fighting between fans is getting ridiculous now and it will start spreading to the terraces. For months and months there has been a massive divide in opinions on Steve Kean and with what else that has gone on the club it's the last thing we need. For any one man to have caused such a rift is incredible and I really think his time has well and truly passed. Bad result after bad result has seen his support grow, why? Is it because he's an underdog? Is it because he talks a good game? It certainly is nothing to do with results. The football is marginally better in certain periods of a match under his tenure, but how many teams have gone down playing pretty football? All style and no substance springs to mind. We heard the same slogans from his fan club around March last season, something like "give him till the end of the season at least", "get behind your team", " any negativity will just hurt the team" et al. Well we did all that, and where are we now? Still in the midst of transition, after a whole pre-season and transfer window. The players he brought in aren't up to speed yet and look unfit, all down to Kean. He is the manager and team issues stop with him. Just like any other club in any other league. He is no different to any other manager, if he does well he gets lauded, if he does poorly he gets lambasted. Unfortunately he has done poorly, he cannot be given match after match in the hope that it will all come together. We have tried this and nearly thirty matches later we still have a horrible habit of losing football matches. One more loss has to be the end, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here I'm just laying down what I think for the good of our club. We all love it, and we all want Premier League success but to put do much faith into someone who has performed so poorly in his tenure is baffling to me. Let's just hope something bloody good comes from all this, come on you blues

Jansen_10 wrote:
Sorry....MxMave, where is this attractive football you're talking about? Because Vs. Fulham, I dont think I've ever seen so many long balls being hoofed by Robinson into their box for their keeper to happily collect, or into the corners for Hoilett/Rochina to chase. The standard of football has gone distinctly downhill since Kean took charge. In all honesty, if we were playing better but losing, I think people would be willing to give Kean time...but unfortunately, Kean technically has a better squad than Allardyce had, but the standard of football is worse. Add that to the clear lack of fitness for a number of our players on Sunday and you start to question his training methods as well as his ability to motivate his team on a matchday. I'm all for giving Kean time...but I'm starting to get fed up of his constant excuses. Oh and Mike D...I completely agree with you, I don't remember feeling like Fulham were going to score a winner on Saturday either...However from about 5.10pm on Sunday I did.

It is a bit of both, team selection and team management on the field, SK is not great with tactics as a game develops, Goodwillie looked exactly what the SPL puts out for home grown players, will he actually make it in the EPL, managers are a different story unfortunately he will not be one of the successful imports
There was little attractive football on Sunday from both teams, I think the point some posters are trying to make is just how long does SK get, 4 more games with a point or two, this is a team he can now call his own so he better had get them motivated to produce

So on it goes, the Open letter, the moaning on on on. When will people realise that the greater part of these posts are written by one,man whose agenda is the destruction of Rovers, is it not Cyril , see I know who you are!
Open letter conveniently emailed to National Journos to max the impact, Open letter claiming to represent the fans?? NOT representing me , not my views and I have been a fan over 50 years.
This Dingle fed agenda must be stopped.
We got a result at Fulham , the tactics worked as we got a point, simple. Oh yeah we are lucky if we win or draw but the manager and team are s**t and they are more s**t if we lose
For gods sake get a life Reg/ Cyril before I start publishing the rest of your sad details..no more , go away you slimy little man

Dr.alan79 wrote:
This is shear madness. All this in fighting between fans is getting ridiculous now and it will start spreading to the terraces. For months and months there has been a massive divide in opinions on Steve Kean and with what else that has gone on the club it's the last thing we need. For any one man to have caused such a rift is incredible and I really think his time has well and truly passed. Bad result after bad result has seen his support grow, why? Is it because he's an underdog? Is it because he talks a good game? It certainly is nothing to do with results. The football is marginally better in certain periods of a match under his tenure, but how many teams have gone down playing pretty football? All style and no substance springs to mind. We heard the same slogans from his fan club around March last season, something like "give him till the end of the season at least", "get behind your team", " any negativity will just hurt the team" et al. Well we did all that, and where are we now? Still in the midst of transition, after a whole pre-season and transfer window. The players he brought in aren't up to speed yet and look unfit, all down to Kean. He is the manager and team issues stop with him. Just like any other club in any other league. He is no different to any other manager, if he does well he gets lauded, if he does poorly he gets lambasted. Unfortunately he has done poorly, he cannot be given match after match in the hope that it will all come together. We have tried this and nearly thirty matches later we still have a horrible habit of losing football matches. One more loss has to be the end, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here I'm just laying down what I think for the good of our club. We all love it, and we all want Premier League success but to put do much faith into someone who has performed so poorly in his tenure is baffling to me. Let's just hope something bloody good comes from all this, come on you blues

Dr Alan, I was as baffled as you as to why anyone supports this joke of a manager. I think there are two groups of people here. The first group feel that any criticism of any aspect of the club is a sign of disloyalty and as such nobody must utter any negative words. If they do they are denounced as being negative or even called Dingles. The second group, includes some regular posters (Iii1111, Mike Costa, Morst, Hasslem and others) hated big Sam so much that Kean is seen as some sort of saviour from the perceived long ball tactics. In my view both these well meaning groups have lost touch with the grim reality we are facing.

If the Venkys want the opinion of the supporters I suggest that they write to all ST holders whose details they have with a simple questionnaire asking who feels better off now or not.
At least then they will get real answers from REAL fans instead of bogus idents posting on here in disguise
Do it Venkys

why doesn't Kean use his new players and his fit ones?
Look at what he regularly uses.
Roberts-not good enough.
Salgado-too slow.
Dunn-no point choosing as he needs replacing after 30 minutes.
Goodwillie who isn't fit enough.
Samba not fit enough.
Olsen not fit due to imjury.
This team selection comes from a manager who thinks he's a great fitness coach.
Its a joke thats not funny any more and if he was a honourable man he would realise he is completely out of his depth and resign for the good of the club

Wild Rover wrote:
If the Venkys want the opinion of the supporters I suggest that they write to all ST holders whose details they have with a simple questionnaire asking who feels better off now or not.
At least then they will get real answers from REAL fans instead of bogus idents posting on here in disguise
Do it Venkys

There is a poll on the BRFCS website, over 650 had voted to sack Kean - around 88%. The Yougov poll published in the LET had 80% wanting Kean out. Similar polls had never had more than 75% wanting Ince sacked. Kean's record is more incompetent than Inces.
He cannot be given 'more time' as his record over 27 games suggests we'll be well adrift by November.
The guy is a habitual liar. On top of all the drink drive stuff, he told Sky sports Hoilett had signed a new deal on transfer deadline day.......has he signed yet?

KEAN OUT

DAN CLOUGH u talk ****, cabbage kean has been here for nearly a year now and hes been given more than a chance.

There are so many managers out of a job at the moment and we should get a half decent manager in

KEAN OUT

LET are being very biased, it beggers belief. As a local newspaper let should be honest, non biased show integrity when printing any news. However that is not the case when it comes to writing news regarding kean, true fans feelings should be printed on here and fans have been calling for a poll on steve kean but all this has been ignored.

I find it absolutely discusting and i will be complaining to LET tomorrow and so should others

I am a "true fan". Blackburn End season ticket holder. Just saying.

Dan clough you have written an absolute rubbish article today, it dosent matter if havent won in london for a long time, what does matter is that we are bottom of the league and cabbage kean is to blame because we have a decent squad

Dan you are quick to point out our record not winning in london since 2009, how about you writing an article about our worst start to a season in nearly a century.

Stop being biased and grow some balls dan and print some proper news

danclough wrote:
I am a "true fan". Blackburn End season ticket holder. Just saying.

All about opinions Dan. The result at Fulham should be classed as a useful point. Kean/SEM/Venkys have brought the age of the squad down and brought in some decent players (nothing to say that another manager wouldn't have done better with the money though)

However Kean's performance as manager tactically and post match comments are shocking.
The squad looks as unfit and clueless as it did under Ince.

The managerial record does not lie. Hodsgon was a respected manager and had a slightly better record at Liverpool. He didn't last half as long. At no other Prem club would this manager still be in charge.

Time for Kean to go

Langho blue wrote:

danclough wrote:
I am a "true fan". Blackburn End season ticket holder. Just saying.

All about opinions Dan. The result at Fulham should be classed as a useful point. Kean/SEM/Venkys have brought the age of the squad down and brought in some decent players (nothing to say that another manager wouldn't have done better with the money though)

However Kean's performance as manager tactically and post match comments are shocking.
The squad looks as unfit and clueless as it did under Ince.

The managerial record does not lie. Hodsgon was a respected manager and had a slightly better record at Liverpool. He didn't last half as long. At no other Prem club would this manager still be in charge.

Time for Kean to go

Brilliant, totally agree with u langho. You write on here more often

Is that some kind of joke?
Roberts - did not get anywhere near the pitch last time out, which was the first match since the window closed.
Salgado - unfortunately, we don't have a better right back.
Dunn - played well, but certainly needs looking after. The thing is, he gives us direction. You can't just chose never to pick him.
Goodwillie - played for Scotland midweek and did a great deal of running in the 1st half as a lone front man. Therefore looked tired towards the end. No massive crime.
Samba is coming back from injury and suffered a mishap. But you can't not start him? How else does a player get match fittness?
Olssen - another one who had a tough couple of internationals. He had to come on because of the samba injury, an did rather well actually.
All in all, I can't see even the world's best manager doing too much different.

fitz808 wrote:
Is that some kind of joke?
Roberts - did not get anywhere near the pitch last time out, which was the first match since the window closed.
Salgado - unfortunately, we don't have a better right back.
Dunn - played well, but certainly needs looking after. The thing is, he gives us direction. You can't just chose never to pick him.
Goodwillie - played for Scotland midweek and did a great deal of running in the 1st half as a lone front man. Therefore looked tired towards the end. No massive crime.
Samba is coming back from injury and suffered a mishap. But you can't not start him? How else does a player get match fittness?
Olssen - another one who had a tough couple of internationals. He had to come on because of the samba injury, an did rather well actually.
All in all, I can't see even the world's best manager doing too much different.

I think its past your bedtime pal because you are talking rubbish, what the hell you on about that the worlds best manager couldnt do any better. We have a squad that is good enough to be in the top ten atleast. Kean has been given more than a chance and hes failed. Last year he hid behind big sams points but this year he has been found out

KEAN OUT

Basically you need 12 points off evey ten games to survive. Let's stop looking top half and just try to survive the season. The rovers have 1 point and need 11 from the next six games. If we get that 11 points in our next six games, we'll be on track to survive. Had we beaten everton we would just need 7 points from the next 6 games to be on track to survive

kazz wrote:
Dan clough you have written an absolute rubbish article today, it dosent matter if havent won in london for a long time, what does matter is that we are bottom of the league and cabbage kean is to blame because we have a decent squad

Dan you are quick to point out our record not winning in london since 2009, how about you writing an article about our worst start to a season in nearly a century.

Stop being biased and grow some balls dan and print some proper news

I disagree, I think it's a decent article. Not just because I agree with much of it, but also because it demonstrates a certain amount of careful consideration. For me, there were some moments to be pleased with on Sunday, as well as some to feel disappointed with.
Looking at the game, we had more genuine chances than fulham, but less of the play in the 2nd half. Thats probably par for the course for any rovers side in the last 15 years. Perspective is a delightful thing

Billypieman wrote:

Dr.alan79 wrote:
This is shear madness. All this in fighting between fans is getting ridiculous now and it will start spreading to the terraces. For months and months there has been a massive divide in opinions on Steve Kean and with what else that has gone on the club it's the last thing we need. For any one man to have caused such a rift is incredible and I really think his time has well and truly passed. Bad result after bad result has seen his support grow, why? Is it because he's an underdog? Is it because he talks a good game? It certainly is nothing to do with results. The football is marginally better in certain periods of a match under his tenure, but how many teams have gone down playing pretty football? All style and no substance springs to mind. We heard the same slogans from his fan club around March last season, something like "give him till the end of the season at least", "get behind your team", " any negativity will just hurt the team" et al. Well we did all that, and where are we now? Still in the midst of transition, after a whole pre-season and transfer window. The players he brought in aren't up to speed yet and look unfit, all down to Kean. He is the manager and team issues stop with him. Just like any other club in any other league. He is no different to any other manager, if he does well he gets lauded, if he does poorly he gets lambasted. Unfortunately he has done poorly, he cannot be given match after match in the hope that it will all come together. We have tried this and nearly thirty matches later we still have a horrible habit of losing football matches. One more loss has to be the end, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here I'm just laying down what I think for the good of our club. We all love it, and we all want Premier League success but to put do much faith into someone who has performed so poorly in his tenure is baffling to me. Let's just hope something bloody good comes from all this, come on you blues

Dr Alan, I was as baffled as you as to why anyone supports this joke of a manager. I think there are two groups of people here. The first group feel that any criticism of any aspect of the club is a sign of disloyalty and as such nobody must utter any negative words. If they do they are denounced as being negative or even called Dingles. The second group, includes some regular posters (Iii1111, Mike Costa, Morst, Hasslem and others) hated big Sam so much that Kean is seen as some sort of saviour from the perceived long ball tactics. In my view both these well meaning groups have lost touch with the grim reality we are facing.

Both of you, 100% spot on. What a strange article this is. No way is this a representation of the majority of Rovers supporters.

Dr is entirely correct. Especially regarding the deadlines. The Kean fan-club are forever saying "give it until the end of the season". "Give it until after the window closes". Now it's "give him until Christmas".

Until Christmas? My god, we have won TWO games of the last TWENTY with Kean in charge. This is can no longer, under any stretch of the imagination, be called "a knee jerk decision".

Bottom line: the longer we stay with this kit-man in charge, the less chance we have of staying up in this competitive league. It really is as simple as that.
-D.K.O

APPARENTLY THERE IS A PROTEST ON SATURDAY BEFORE ARSENALS MATCH CALLING FOR STEVE KEAN TO BE SACKED. IT HAS BEEN REPORTED IN THE DAILY MIRROR THAT OVER 1000 FANS WOULD BE PROTESTING

I CANT WAIT TO GET DOWN ON SAT AND PROTEST FOR THIS CABBAGE TO FOOK OFF FROM OUR CLUB

New manager or not, were not getting big points in the fixtures ahead, the home games are especially harsh. May aswell let kean die to the big clubs then appoint a new manager after hes done being slaughtered. Even Morinhio would struggle to get 7 points from our next 3 home games.

New manager or not, were not getting big points in the fixtures ahead, the home games are especially harsh. May aswell let kean die to the big clubs then appoint a new manager after hes done being slaughtered. Even Morinhio would struggle to get 7 points from our next 3 home games.

Billypieman wrote:

Dr.alan79 wrote:
This is shear madness. All this in fighting between fans is getting ridiculous now and it will start spreading to the terraces. For months and months there has been a massive divide in opinions on Steve Kean and with what else that has gone on the club it's the last thing we need. For any one man to have caused such a rift is incredible and I really think his time has well and truly passed. Bad result after bad result has seen his support grow, why? Is it because he's an underdog? Is it because he talks a good game? It certainly is nothing to do with results. The football is marginally better in certain periods of a match under his tenure, but how many teams have gone down playing pretty football? All style and no substance springs to mind. We heard the same slogans from his fan club around March last season, something like "give him till the end of the season at least", "get behind your team", " any negativity will just hurt the team" et al. Well we did all that, and where are we now? Still in the midst of transition, after a whole pre-season and transfer window. The players he brought in aren't up to speed yet and look unfit, all down to Kean. He is the manager and team issues stop with him. Just like any other club in any other league. He is no different to any other manager, if he does well he gets lauded, if he does poorly he gets lambasted. Unfortunately he has done poorly, he cannot be given match after match in the hope that it will all come together. We have tried this and nearly thirty matches later we still have a horrible habit of losing football matches. One more loss has to be the end, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here I'm just laying down what I think for the good of our club. We all love it, and we all want Premier League success but to put do much faith into someone who has performed so poorly in his tenure is baffling to me. Let's just hope something bloody good comes from all this, come on you blues

Dr Alan, I was as baffled as you as to why anyone supports this joke of a manager. I think there are two groups of people here. The first group feel that any criticism of any aspect of the club is a sign of disloyalty and as such nobody must utter any negative words. If they do they are denounced as being negative or even called Dingles. The second group, includes some regular posters (Iii1111, Mike Costa, Morst, Hasslem and others) hated big Sam so much that Kean is seen as some sort of saviour from the perceived long ball tactics. In my view both these well meaning groups have lost touch with the grim reality we are facing.

what rot you type. kean a hero? - not on my watch!
.
last season home games against sunderland and fulham are the worst two games of football i have ever seen in watching rovers since 1968.
.
..and that includes an awful night match against cardiff circa 1978 when john butcher chicked two in in the last 5 minutes

kazz wrote:
APPARENTLY THERE IS A PROTEST ON SATURDAY BEFORE ARSENALS MATCH CALLING FOR STEVE KEAN TO BE SACKED. IT HAS BEEN REPORTED IN THE DAILY MIRROR THAT OVER 1000 FANS WOULD BE PROTESTING I CANT WAIT TO GET DOWN ON SAT AND PROTEST FOR THIS CABBAGE TO FOOK OFF FROM OUR CLUB

Same here.
If Venkys are at Ewood, perhaps if a decent number of fans protested, they would stop flying in the face of common-sense by arrogantly keeping this idiot in his post.
I cannot for the life of me see Mark Hughes working for these clowns, but perfhaps Dave Jones would be a more realistic name. Hardly one to get the pulses racing, but a good, steady manager, & lets face it, a huge step up from this yes-man we have now.
Knowing Venkys, if they do get shut of him, the bumbling Jensen would take over.
All in all, a protest march is worth a go- at least it would be doing something, rather than sitting back & watching as the decline continued.
Kean won't walk, & Venkys are too daft to realise what a mess they're making, (despite the results & league position). Hopefully this could wake them up.

kazz wrote:
APPARENTLY THERE IS A PROTEST ON SATURDAY BEFORE ARSENALS MATCH CALLING FOR STEVE KEAN TO BE SACKED. IT HAS BEEN REPORTED IN THE DAILY MIRROR THAT OVER 1000 FANS WOULD BE PROTESTING

I CANT WAIT TO GET DOWN ON SAT AND PROTEST FOR THIS CABBAGE TO FOOK OFF FROM OUR CLUB

it saddens me to see the enthusiasm with which some seem to approach what will be disruptive and destabalising. you all have every right to do what you will do, but i feel it to be ill-judged.
+
to draw the comparison with my feelings about allardyce; by the end of his tenure, i was eager to see him out of our club at the earliest possible opportunity. but despite all that, i would certainly not have been protesting before any games.
+
i can't help feeling there is a certain arrogance in demanding that the club do whatever you want them to do. there may be a number of very good reasons why kean is still in favour round the club. contrary to what some think, these may well be positive reasons. we are not privvy to anything that goes on around the club outside matchdays, so we don't see what continues to make the owners back kean.
+
from what i can see, there is a forward momentum to things at the club. until someone is deliberately trying to be damaging to my club, or is clearly taking the club backwards, my feelings about their ability to do the job will remain my own. afterall, i do not posess a range of coaching badges or, indeed, own any stake in the football club beyond paying the watch the games when i can and occasionally buying some replica kit. my influence, therefore must remain in keeping with my knowledge and input into the club, no matter how passionately i feel about it.

An important point is mentioned above and that is the sad role played by the LET in reporting Rovers. The press at the LET know all there is to know about the ins and outs at Ewood but choose to act as if they are the Rovers official cheer leaders and constantly blather "get behind our boys" like some of the ill-thought out "loyalists" on this post.
Fans have a right to be critical and as I pointed out McLeish seems to be doing OK at Villa but can scarcely be described as having the fans behind him.
Let's have some decent critical and informed reporting from the LET.
Some of us predicted this mess from day one of Kean's appointment, not because we loved Sam, I thought our play under him was atrocious and boring even though the excuse worked that he kept us mid-table.
But Venkys rule and Kean's has been full of half truths, silly exaggerations and 2 wins out of twenty. To promote the number 3 to running a Premiership team was madness, but presumably what won Venky's over was and remains Kean's willingness to play the sap for their experiment - which can only end in tears.

Reading some of the nonsense on here makes me question my sanity. I can't believe that some people are actually suggesting Kean should be given more time to turn the corner.

He's been in charge since December 2010, which is 10 months. In that time he has managed a dire 5 league wins. Tell me what other established premier league club would tolerate that abysmal record? Not one of those five wins was in any way shape or form convincing. Under Allardyce we would play the likes of Wolves at home and cruise the game 3-0, spending the last 20 minutes playing keep ball and running down the clock. Under Kean we are found to be desperately holding on to a lead by our fingertips e.g. Liverpool, Wolves, West Brom.

My favourite one is how some people are saying its all well and good getting shut of Kean but who would we get to replace him? You seem to be forgetting that aside from Venky's bizarre way of doing things we would be an extremely attractive proposition to a lot of managers. We are an established premier league club, with a decent set of players and some of the best facilities around. Many managers out of work, abroad or in the lower divisions would give their right arm to manage a club the size and stature of ours. People underestimate just how attractive a club we are, still living in the 'small club' mentality of years gone by.

I personally predict that we will not win a game this season with this muppet in control. We seem to go into a game trying to blitz the opposition in the first half but then run out of steam in the second and Kean has no plan B of how to deal with sustained pressure from the opposition. Watching against Fulham on sunday I noticed how unfit we looked. Fulham were taking us apart and we looked dead on our feet after 60 minutes. This was the same Fulham side who are considered to be one of the worst in the league and who have been playing competitive fixtures since June. So how they can have so much more energy than us is for Kean to explain.

jack01 wrote:
Reading some of the nonsense on here makes me question my sanity. I can't believe that some people are actually suggesting Kean should be given more time to turn the corner.

He's been in charge since December 2010, which is 10 months. In that time he has managed a dire 5 league wins. Tell me what other established premier league club would tolerate that abysmal record? Not one of those five wins was in any way shape or form convincing. Under Allardyce we would play the likes of Wolves at home and cruise the game 3-0, spending the last 20 minutes playing keep ball and running down the clock. Under Kean we are found to be desperately holding on to a lead by our fingertips e.g. Liverpool, Wolves, West Brom.

My favourite one is how some people are saying its all well and good getting shut of Kean but who would we get to replace him? You seem to be forgetting that aside from Venky's bizarre way of doing things we would be an extremely attractive proposition to a lot of managers. We are an established premier league club, with a decent set of players and some of the best facilities around. Many managers out of work, abroad or in the lower divisions would give their right arm to manage a club the size and stature of ours. People underestimate just how attractive a club we are, still living in the 'small club' mentality of years gone by.

I personally predict that we will not win a game this season with this muppet in control. We seem to go into a game trying to blitz the opposition in the first half but then run out of steam in the second and Kean has no plan B of how to deal with sustained pressure from the opposition. Watching against Fulham on sunday I noticed how unfit we looked. Fulham were taking us apart and we looked dead on our feet after 60 minutes. This was the same Fulham side who are considered to be one of the worst in the league and who have been playing competitive fixtures since June. So how they can have so much more energy than us is for Kean to explain.

so, go on then - who would?

Jacko says
Reading some of the nonsense on here makes me question my sanity. I can't believe that some people are actually suggesting Kean should be given more time to turn the corner.

Reading some of the Dingle led garbage on here assures me that there is no sanity!
You actually dare to quote the Wolves game under SA when every one of your multi posts slated hime for backing off at 3-0???
Short memory Reg/Cyril!
Kazz/Reg?-how many spotty yoofs will turn up for the protest-Real fans my a***e, you are not even real people..
Langho- maths lesson - 650 votes on a site that allows multiple votes to any one person does not equate to 88% of ROVERS fans hence my request for a Club poll of STH's
Fitz, common sense will not work with this Dingle led agenda by Reg/Cyril.. he just deires the de-stabilisation of Rovers. REAL fans know that we have to give Kean a chance with his new squad, first game an away draw, how can anyone call that a bad result?
The answer is only if you are looking at it through a very warped perspective (DINGLE EYES)
DONT care abut Keans record to Date, it is all about the investment now and how we go forward, if he fails in the next 4 games say, then fine we may need to change the set up. Unlike the clown who suggests that we will sink if we lose 2 or 3 more games I believe there is plenty of time to play this out sensibly
No, I dont LIKE Kean but then again I did not like Sam or Ince.. it is not our choice, the Owners appoint managers
Support your team if you are a Rovers fan

I will be looking on saturday to see who Kean plays in the full back positions, Salgado,Givet if these two play what chances of stopping Van Persie or Walcott if Kean does,nt get the line up and tactics right its going to be an awfully torrid afternoon for Rovers fans.Hopefully Arsenal will be suffering from their midweek Eauropean jaunt and dont relish a fight in the northwest even then we will have to be on the very top of our game. up the blue and whites.

Forgetting about Kean for minute, all those for a minute have you actually head who is being touted on the so called list drawn up.

Dave Jones?

Do you seriously want Kean sacked for Dave Jones?

Some days I feel so far disconnected from other Rovers fans it's beyond belief.

Hughes will not come back. O'Neil requires massive transfer kittys Venkys cannot/will not afford. Same with Benitez.

The only person I personally would I give a shot who I think may come would be Shearer or Tugay with a strong back-room/well known assistant. Tugay I think would be interested more than Shearer.

The dream would be Hughes and Tugay as assistant or youth team coach.

Kevin Keegan would be a long shot but a great installment - he would make us had to beat and bring out the best in our flair players.

Glenn Hoddle would divide the fans again.

Coppell and Curbishley will also be touted as they are with every job - no thanks.

Then we get back to fairy tale sh1t again with Ancellotti.

We start running out of jobless managers then. So who would come to Rovers then? Who will leave their position to come here?

Absolutely no-one in the Prem. NO-ONE.


HONESTLY - who would take over a bottom the Prem team, who's fans are going on a protest 4 games into the season?

The fans are not going on protest after only 4 games this season. The fans are going on protest at the way the club has been run and managed since Venkys and Kean took over. Fans have every right to protest, people protest about travellers, in or out, people protest against wars, strikes, planning permissions, bus passes etc. we live in a democracy and people can protest.
Sorry to see a good player and potentially good pundit, Kevin Gally, joining in the "don't criticise" brigade - I know he wouldn't be able to draw his paycheck if he said anything different, but sad, sad...