Blackburn Rovers Column: Memories will never fade as Rovers on brink

AN incredible golden era in Blackburn Rovers’ proud history is in danger of coming to an abrupt end thanks to inept ownership, shocking managerial decisions and a lack of footballing knowledge.

All Rovers fans perhaps feared the ‘Premier League adventure’ would one day end – and maybe forever – as they fought the ever increasing financial odds, but no-one could ever have imagined the farcical nature in which a once well run club has come crashing down around them over the past 18 months.

Most – if not all – Rovers fans will wish they had never heard of Venky’s. This is the owners’ fault. They appointed and kept faith with Steve Kean, they allowed the club to spend circa £20million on mostly duff signings, and they also allowed years of experience on and off the field leave the club.

There remains a slight glimmer of hopeafter Bolton’s heavy defeat to Spurs last night at least gives Rovers a fighting chance, although the odds are still against them with just two games left and still three points adrift.

It would be easy to focus yet another column on the failings of the regime over the past 18 months.

There is so much to complain about and so little, if anything, to praise.

But as we prepare for what could be the last Premier League game at Ewood Park for a while, Monday night’s visit of Wigan, it is only fitting to celebrate what an incredible journey the club have been on over the last two decades.

For a town of a population of roughly 100,000, their footballing achievements have been nothing short of miraculous and, for me, overshadow anything any other Premier League club have managed over a sustained period.

Inspired by ‘Uncle Jack’, Rovers fans have been on an adventure that no town club is likely to ever experience again. To spend just two seasons out of the Premier League and stand ninth in all the league’s all-time standings is a feat that leaves the club the stand-out achievers over the last 20 years.

I’m not just talking about being one of four – maybe soon to be five – clubs to have lifted the Premier League trophy. I’m talking about remaining in and being competitive in the top flight once Jack Walker’s money had gone. The last 10 years have been in some way even more stunning.

No Rovers fan will ever forget that day at Anfield in 1995 when Tim Sherwood lifted the ult-imate prize for Kenny Dalglish’s men. To have been blessed by seeing the likes of Colin Hendry, Tim Flowers and Alan Shearer in a Rovers shirt is something that should never be under-estimated.

Seeing the maestro Tugay pulling the strings in the centre of the park, goalscoring geniuses like Andy Cole, Roque Santa Cruz and Benni McCarthy and club stalwarts of the likes of David Dunn, Brad Friedel, Garry Flitcroft and Ryan Nelsen are memories that will long outlast Venky’s in East Lancashire.

There are many more club greats and fans favourites who have contributed greatly along the way. A Premier League title, a Worthington Cup win and countless European campaigns deserve celebration.

It does not necessarily have to be all over. What happens next is up to Venky’s.

But one thing that is for sure is that the disaster of the last 18 months can’t destroy the mem-ories.

Comments (45)

8:18am Thu 3 May 12

craftandgraft says...

The memories stretch back to 5th November 1875.

BRFC remain 9th in all time Premiership rankings.

The current owners have negated their right to decide anything.

www.brsit.co.uk

Arte et Labore
ps. thanks Andy.....truth always wins.
The memories stretch back to 5th November 1875. BRFC remain 9th in all time Premiership rankings. The current owners have negated their right to decide anything. www.brsit.co.uk Arte et Labore ps. thanks Andy.....truth always wins. craftandgraft

8:20am Thu 3 May 12

bburnrover says...

Yes I agree I watched Rovers get relegated in the 60s and had to wait until the 90s before a 50 odd year old multi millionaire started helping us out of the doldroms.
I enjoyed our time in the old second division as Jim Smith and Don Mackay had some competitive sides that did not cost anything to put together.I dont think we have a cat in hells chance of even remaining in the Championship unless these Indian farmers sell up and someone buys the club who knows what it is all about and appoints Glen Hoddle as manager to take us back up.
Yes I agree I watched Rovers get relegated in the 60s and had to wait until the 90s before a 50 odd year old multi millionaire started helping us out of the doldroms. I enjoyed our time in the old second division as Jim Smith and Don Mackay had some competitive sides that did not cost anything to put together.I dont think we have a cat in hells chance of even remaining in the Championship unless these Indian farmers sell up and someone buys the club who knows what it is all about and appoints Glen Hoddle as manager to take us back up. bburnrover

8:26am Thu 3 May 12

lusorover says...

The future can be bright too - Swansea were on the verge of going out of the Football League and out of business but now they are looking forward to a second season of Premiership football.

However we are going to have to endure a lot of pain along the way if we are to halt the decline in the Club's fortunes.

Ours has always been a 'special' club; one whose successes have belied its unpromising location and there is no reason why those champagne days cannot return.

It is hard to see through the fog of lies and ineptitude which engulfs Ewood at the moment but there can be better times ahead.

Venkys and Kean cannot last; the Club and the fans will pick up the pieces when they are gone.

We've been here before but this special Club will prosper again. That is for sure.
The future can be bright too - Swansea were on the verge of going out of the Football League and out of business but now they are looking forward to a second season of Premiership football. However we are going to have to endure a lot of pain along the way if we are to halt the decline in the Club's fortunes. Ours has always been a 'special' club; one whose successes have belied its unpromising location and there is no reason why those champagne days cannot return. It is hard to see through the fog of lies and ineptitude which engulfs Ewood at the moment but there can be better times ahead. Venkys and Kean cannot last; the Club and the fans will pick up the pieces when they are gone. We've been here before but this special Club will prosper again. That is for sure. lusorover

8:27am Thu 3 May 12

lusorover says...

The future can be bright too - Swansea were on the verge of going out of the Football League and out of business but now they are looking forward to a second season of Premiership football.

However we are going to have to endure a lot of pain along the way if we are to halt the decline in the Club's fortunes.

Ours has always been a 'special' club; one whose successes have belied its unpromising location and there is no reason why those champagne days cannot return.

It is hard to see through the fog of lies and ineptitude which engulfs Ewood at the moment but there can be better times ahead.

Venkys and Kean cannot last; the Club and the fans will pick up the pieces when they are gone.

We've been here before but this special Club will prosper again. That is for sure.
The future can be bright too - Swansea were on the verge of going out of the Football League and out of business but now they are looking forward to a second season of Premiership football. However we are going to have to endure a lot of pain along the way if we are to halt the decline in the Club's fortunes. Ours has always been a 'special' club; one whose successes have belied its unpromising location and there is no reason why those champagne days cannot return. It is hard to see through the fog of lies and ineptitude which engulfs Ewood at the moment but there can be better times ahead. Venkys and Kean cannot last; the Club and the fans will pick up the pieces when they are gone. We've been here before but this special Club will prosper again. That is for sure. lusorover

8:49am Thu 3 May 12

craftandgraft says...

Oh,the grand Old Duke of York,
He had ten thousand men,
He marched them up to the top of the hill,
And he marched them down again.

And when they were up they were up,
And when they were down they were down,
And when they were only half way up,
They were neither up nor down.

Who are we.....blue army.

www.brsit.co.uk

Arte et Labore.
ps. foreverandeverwe'llf
ollowourteamtheblack
burnroverswillreigns
upreme.
Oh,the grand Old Duke of York, He had ten thousand men, He marched them up to the top of the hill, And he marched them down again. And when they were up they were up, And when they were down they were down, And when they were only half way up, They were neither up nor down. Who are we.....blue army. www.brsit.co.uk Arte et Labore. ps. foreverandeverwe'llf ollowourteamtheblack burnroverswillreigns upreme. craftandgraft

8:59am Thu 3 May 12

Vikings Rover says...

The recipe for bringing the Venky's era to an end lies within our control. Just DO NOT SPEND money of any kind with the company, objective being to reduce incoming sales revenue to zilch!!
Force Venky's to continually inject cash to support the cash flow in order to keep the company afloat.
Let's send a message to the bankers that lending money to BRFC has an extremely high risk rating attached to it.
If the company cannot demonstrate how it can repay the loans, then the banks will pull the plug and the chicken pluckers will leave town in a hurry. . . . . that day cannot come too soon when Venky's are nothing but a distant memory!! Now that will be a real time for celebration !! VENKY'S OUT !!!!!!
The recipe for bringing the Venky's era to an end lies within our control. Just DO NOT SPEND money of any kind with the company, objective being to reduce incoming sales revenue to zilch!! Force Venky's to continually inject cash to support the cash flow in order to keep the company afloat. Let's send a message to the bankers that lending money to BRFC has an extremely high risk rating attached to it. If the company cannot demonstrate how it can repay the loans, then the banks will pull the plug and the chicken pluckers will leave town in a hurry. . . . . that day cannot come too soon when Venky's are nothing but a distant memory!! Now that will be a real time for celebration !! VENKY'S OUT !!!!!! Vikings Rover

9:03am Thu 3 May 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

The memories will always be there that other fans can only dream of.
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The most successful town club ever.
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But the memories of the last 18 months will also take some time to forget and never be forgiven.
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Kean must go!
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Venkys - sell or invest.
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If they don't starve them of cash. ST sales have already crashed in a very encouraging way!
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34th.....
The memories will always be there that other fans can only dream of. . The most successful town club ever. . But the memories of the last 18 months will also take some time to forget and never be forgiven. . Kean must go! . Venkys - sell or invest. . If they don't starve them of cash. ST sales have already crashed in a very encouraging way! . 34th..... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

9:08am Thu 3 May 12

Oakdale blue says...

Vikings Rover wrote:
The recipe for bringing the Venky's era to an end lies within our control. Just DO NOT SPEND money of any kind with the company, objective being to reduce incoming sales revenue to zilch!! Force Venky's to continually inject cash to support the cash flow in order to keep the company afloat. Let's send a message to the bankers that lending money to BRFC has an extremely high risk rating attached to it. If the company cannot demonstrate how it can repay the loans, then the banks will pull the plug and the chicken pluckers will leave town in a hurry. . . . . that day cannot come too soon when Venky's are nothing but a distant memory!! Now that will be a real time for celebration !! VENKY'S OUT !!!!!!
Your strategy is as well planned as one of Venkys. Your way will lead to Venkys putting the club into administration and losing the club altogether after they have sold what little assets remain
[quote][p][bold]Vikings Rover[/bold] wrote: The recipe for bringing the Venky's era to an end lies within our control. Just DO NOT SPEND money of any kind with the company, objective being to reduce incoming sales revenue to zilch!! Force Venky's to continually inject cash to support the cash flow in order to keep the company afloat. Let's send a message to the bankers that lending money to BRFC has an extremely high risk rating attached to it. If the company cannot demonstrate how it can repay the loans, then the banks will pull the plug and the chicken pluckers will leave town in a hurry. . . . . that day cannot come too soon when Venky's are nothing but a distant memory!! Now that will be a real time for celebration !! VENKY'S OUT !!!!!![/p][/quote]Your strategy is as well planned as one of Venkys. Your way will lead to Venkys putting the club into administration and losing the club altogether after they have sold what little assets remain Oakdale blue

9:13am Thu 3 May 12

RobbyRover says...

bburnrover wrote:
Yes I agree I watched Rovers get relegated in the 60s and had to wait until the 90s before a 50 odd year old multi millionaire started helping us out of the doldroms.
I enjoyed our time in the old second division as Jim Smith and Don Mackay had some competitive sides that did not cost anything to put together.I dont think we have a cat in hells chance of even remaining in the Championship unless these Indian farmers sell up and someone buys the club who knows what it is all about and appoints Glen Hoddle as manager to take us back up.
Please don't appoint Hoddle. His agent is one Jerome Anderson. Whatever we do we need to be shut of him!
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Yes I agree I watched Rovers get relegated in the 60s and had to wait until the 90s before a 50 odd year old multi millionaire started helping us out of the doldroms. I enjoyed our time in the old second division as Jim Smith and Don Mackay had some competitive sides that did not cost anything to put together.I dont think we have a cat in hells chance of even remaining in the Championship unless these Indian farmers sell up and someone buys the club who knows what it is all about and appoints Glen Hoddle as manager to take us back up.[/p][/quote]Please don't appoint Hoddle. His agent is one Jerome Anderson. Whatever we do we need to be shut of him! RobbyRover

9:36am Thu 3 May 12

ChrisinColne says...

Why did you miss out Pedersen amongst the list of stalwarts?
Why did you miss out Pedersen amongst the list of stalwarts? ChrisinColne

9:36am Thu 3 May 12

ChrisinColne says...

Why did you miss out Pedersen amongst the list of stalwarts?
Why did you miss out Pedersen amongst the list of stalwarts? ChrisinColne

9:37am Thu 3 May 12

cheekyprodigy says...

Bring back Souness. Oh wait, that would be a footballing decision and not a profitable one to the owners. Shambles.
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Sad that we now go into the Dingle derby with every possibility of being beaten. Championship mediocrity for the next few year methinks unless one of us becomes a multi-billionaire (millionaire won't cut it now) and does another Uncle Jack.
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And the worst insult will be checking in on Championship TV after MOTD and finding we're shown last on there too...
Bring back Souness. Oh wait, that would be a footballing decision and not a profitable one to the owners. Shambles. * Sad that we now go into the Dingle derby with every possibility of being beaten. Championship mediocrity for the next few year methinks unless one of us becomes a multi-billionaire (millionaire won't cut it now) and does another Uncle Jack. * And the worst insult will be checking in on Championship TV after MOTD and finding we're shown last on there too... cheekyprodigy

9:48am Thu 3 May 12

Vikings Rover says...

Oakdale blue wrote:
Vikings Rover wrote:
The recipe for bringing the Venky's era to an end lies within our control. Just DO NOT SPEND money of any kind with the company, objective being to reduce incoming sales revenue to zilch!! Force Venky's to continually inject cash to support the cash flow in order to keep the company afloat. Let's send a message to the bankers that lending money to BRFC has an extremely high risk rating attached to it. If the company cannot demonstrate how it can repay the loans, then the banks will pull the plug and the chicken pluckers will leave town in a hurry. . . . . that day cannot come too soon when Venky's are nothing but a distant memory!! Now that will be a real time for celebration !! VENKY'S OUT !!!!!!
Your strategy is as well planned as one of Venkys. Your way will lead to Venkys putting the club into administration and losing the club altogether after they have sold what little assets remain
I would prefer a new beginning to the long, slow lingering decline currently being experienced.
Putting the club into administration may be no bad thing . . . . one of the main jobs of an administrator is to keep the business that is made insolvent running while looking for a NEW OWNER !! . . . . .VENKY'S OUT!
[quote][p][bold]Oakdale blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vikings Rover[/bold] wrote: The recipe for bringing the Venky's era to an end lies within our control. Just DO NOT SPEND money of any kind with the company, objective being to reduce incoming sales revenue to zilch!! Force Venky's to continually inject cash to support the cash flow in order to keep the company afloat. Let's send a message to the bankers that lending money to BRFC has an extremely high risk rating attached to it. If the company cannot demonstrate how it can repay the loans, then the banks will pull the plug and the chicken pluckers will leave town in a hurry. . . . . that day cannot come too soon when Venky's are nothing but a distant memory!! Now that will be a real time for celebration !! VENKY'S OUT !!!!!![/p][/quote]Your strategy is as well planned as one of Venkys. Your way will lead to Venkys putting the club into administration and losing the club altogether after they have sold what little assets remain[/p][/quote]I would prefer a new beginning to the long, slow lingering decline currently being experienced. Putting the club into administration may be no bad thing . . . . one of the main jobs of an administrator is to keep the business that is made insolvent running while looking for a NEW OWNER !! . . . . .VENKY'S OUT! Vikings Rover

10:59am Thu 3 May 12

davemal says...

It's going to be a long road back if these idiots don't go.
It's going to be a long road back if these idiots don't go. davemal

12:06pm Thu 3 May 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Daily Star reporting that fan was wrestled to ground by bodyguard and ground staff just before he could get to Kean.
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Kean was left in no doubt what the fan (and so say all of us!) thought about him.
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Training session was cancelled as everyone was in a state of shock he got so close. (Players were really laughing their heads off?)
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KEAN OUT - song for Monday....
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Get Lost Kinnochio,
Get Lost Kinnochio
Get Lost Kinnochio
Get Lost Kinnochio,
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Change the first two words if you prefer!
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34th....
Daily Star reporting that fan was wrestled to ground by bodyguard and ground staff just before he could get to Kean. . Kean was left in no doubt what the fan (and so say all of us!) thought about him. . Training session was cancelled as everyone was in a state of shock he got so close. (Players were really laughing their heads off?) . KEAN OUT - song for Monday.... . Get Lost Kinnochio, Get Lost Kinnochio Get Lost Kinnochio Get Lost Kinnochio, . Change the first two words if you prefer! . 34th.... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

12:12pm Thu 3 May 12

jeppo says...

Thanks Mr Cryer, this is a really good piece...enjoyed it.
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sorry if this point has been made before, I dont read too much on here these days, as its usually the same old negative lot that slagged off Ince then Allardyce and craved entertaining football...and now slag off Kean to an even greater level, BUT;
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Aside from all the 'obvious' reasons, the reality is that the Fabrice Muamba situation has actually been a massive factor in our demise. We were on a decent run, having got 10 points from the previous 5 games before the Bolton game, but they were on fire that night, first game back since Fabrice, we ended up losing, next game was Man Utd and then all of a sudden, the confidence drops and we lost 5 games on the run. Pre Fabrice, Bolton were in free fall and were virtually down, their mini revival put masses pressure on us at a time that we were low on confidence... its a funny old game.
Thanks Mr Cryer, this is a really good piece...enjoyed it. . sorry if this point has been made before, I dont read too much on here these days, as its usually the same old negative lot that slagged off Ince then Allardyce and craved entertaining football...and now slag off Kean to an even greater level, BUT; . Aside from all the 'obvious' reasons, the reality is that the Fabrice Muamba situation has actually been a massive factor in our demise. We were on a decent run, having got 10 points from the previous 5 games before the Bolton game, but they were on fire that night, first game back since Fabrice, we ended up losing, next game was Man Utd and then all of a sudden, the confidence drops and we lost 5 games on the run. Pre Fabrice, Bolton were in free fall and were virtually down, their mini revival put masses pressure on us at a time that we were low on confidence... its a funny old game. jeppo

1:10pm Thu 3 May 12

onenil says...

The bigger worry looking forward for Blackburn Rovers long suffering fans is the risk of the Venky's putting us into administration after pocketing the summer transfer fees and the balloon payment. If this scenario is possible then there is a failing in the way Sky money is paid if it cannot be ring fenced for the benefit of the club only.
We have one live match to come which they cannot censor and the fans should take banners in full view of the TV cameras that ask questions of the Venky’s intentions as they are not prepared to get into any dialogue with the fans.
My fear is that the public venom the world will see against the Venky’s on Monday may even offer them an excuse to behave in the manner set out above and the same will apply for Kean. The fans are therefore in a no win situation as their behaviour on Monday, if the match turns against us, may also be turned against us and gain Kean and the Venky’s some public sympathy.
This doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the protests but the banners need to ask questions that will expose and embarrass them and not just spit out vile personal insults.
The bigger worry looking forward for Blackburn Rovers long suffering fans is the risk of the Venky's putting us into administration after pocketing the summer transfer fees and the balloon payment. If this scenario is possible then there is a failing in the way Sky money is paid if it cannot be ring fenced for the benefit of the club only. We have one live match to come which they cannot censor and the fans should take banners in full view of the TV cameras that ask questions of the Venky’s intentions as they are not prepared to get into any dialogue with the fans. My fear is that the public venom the world will see against the Venky’s on Monday may even offer them an excuse to behave in the manner set out above and the same will apply for Kean. The fans are therefore in a no win situation as their behaviour on Monday, if the match turns against us, may also be turned against us and gain Kean and the Venky’s some public sympathy. This doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the protests but the banners need to ask questions that will expose and embarrass them and not just spit out vile personal insults. onenil

1:29pm Thu 3 May 12

makaveli96 says...

All these "softly softly" protests dont work!

They never have!

Tell me ONE peaceful protest that has ever made a change?

Im not having a go at the people taking part, we all want whats best for the club.

What would they do in South America with such owners?
All these "softly softly" protests dont work! They never have! Tell me ONE peaceful protest that has ever made a change? Im not having a go at the people taking part, we all want whats best for the club. What would they do in South America with such owners? makaveli96

1:53pm Thu 3 May 12

makaveli96 says...

12.50pm - Longchamp (FR) - 17/1 - Golden Shower
12.50pm - Longchamp (FR) - 17/1 - Golden Shower makaveli96

2:24pm Thu 3 May 12

Iiii1111 says...

jeppo wrote:
Thanks Mr Cryer, this is a really good piece...enjoyed it.
.
sorry if this point has been made before, I dont read too much on here these days, as its usually the same old negative lot that slagged off Ince then Allardyce and craved entertaining football...and now slag off Kean to an even greater level, BUT;
.
Aside from all the 'obvious' reasons, the reality is that the Fabrice Muamba situation has actually been a massive factor in our demise. We were on a decent run, having got 10 points from the previous 5 games before the Bolton game, but they were on fire that night, first game back since Fabrice, we ended up losing, next game was Man Utd and then all of a sudden, the confidence drops and we lost 5 games on the run. Pre Fabrice, Bolton were in free fall and were virtually down, their mini revival put masses pressure on us at a time that we were low on confidence... its a funny old game.
Totally agree with you concerning Muamba, that was definitely the turning point of our season, I really thought we’d turned the corner up until the Bolton game. Wanderers where there for taking had it not been for the ‘Muamba’ factor, not many teams would have beaten Bolton on that day under those circumstances.

You really have to learn to forgive and forget Jeppo, grouping fans is just not correct, I personally wanted shut of Allardyce, but I wanted to give Ince a chance; I even wanted to give Kean a chance. Not everyone can see into the future or be astute as your good self.

I’ll say this again for yours, Bazzer, piemans etc sake…sacking Allardyce is not the reason the club is in this mess….the day Venkeys bought the club is!.......Allardyce couldn’t/wouldn’
t have worked for this regime even if he’d not been pushed & do you really think Sam was sacked because Venkeys where listening to fans like me? Bazzer does;-) The Venkeys don’t listen to the fans, then , now or ever, get used to it, the club is in freefall.
[quote][p][bold]jeppo[/bold] wrote: Thanks Mr Cryer, this is a really good piece...enjoyed it. . sorry if this point has been made before, I dont read too much on here these days, as its usually the same old negative lot that slagged off Ince then Allardyce and craved entertaining football...and now slag off Kean to an even greater level, BUT; . Aside from all the 'obvious' reasons, the reality is that the Fabrice Muamba situation has actually been a massive factor in our demise. We were on a decent run, having got 10 points from the previous 5 games before the Bolton game, but they were on fire that night, first game back since Fabrice, we ended up losing, next game was Man Utd and then all of a sudden, the confidence drops and we lost 5 games on the run. Pre Fabrice, Bolton were in free fall and were virtually down, their mini revival put masses pressure on us at a time that we were low on confidence... its a funny old game.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you concerning Muamba, that was definitely the turning point of our season, I really thought we’d turned the corner up until the Bolton game. Wanderers where there for taking had it not been for the ‘Muamba’ factor, not many teams would have beaten Bolton on that day under those circumstances. You really have to learn to forgive and forget Jeppo, grouping fans is just not correct, I personally wanted shut of Allardyce, but I wanted to give Ince a chance; I even wanted to give Kean a chance. Not everyone can see into the future or be astute as your good self. I’ll say this again for yours, Bazzer, piemans etc sake…sacking Allardyce is not the reason the club is in this mess….the day Venkeys bought the club is!.......Allardyce couldn’t/wouldn’ t have worked for this regime even if he’d not been pushed & do you really think Sam was sacked because Venkeys where listening to fans like me? Bazzer does;-) The Venkeys don’t listen to the fans, then , now or ever, get used to it, the club is in freefall. Iiii1111

3:01pm Thu 3 May 12

Caspar the ghost says...

makaveli96 wrote:
All these "softly softly" protests dont work!

They never have!

Tell me ONE peaceful protest that has ever made a change?

Im not having a go at the people taking part, we all want whats best for the club.

What would they do in South America with such owners?
Ghandi?
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: All these "softly softly" protests dont work! They never have! Tell me ONE peaceful protest that has ever made a change? Im not having a go at the people taking part, we all want whats best for the club. What would they do in South America with such owners?[/p][/quote]Ghandi? Caspar the ghost

3:30pm Thu 3 May 12

Bazzer says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
jeppo wrote: Thanks Mr Cryer, this is a really good piece...enjoyed it. . sorry if this point has been made before, I dont read too much on here these days, as its usually the same old negative lot that slagged off Ince then Allardyce and craved entertaining football...and now slag off Kean to an even greater level, BUT; . Aside from all the 'obvious' reasons, the reality is that the Fabrice Muamba situation has actually been a massive factor in our demise. We were on a decent run, having got 10 points from the previous 5 games before the Bolton game, but they were on fire that night, first game back since Fabrice, we ended up losing, next game was Man Utd and then all of a sudden, the confidence drops and we lost 5 games on the run. Pre Fabrice, Bolton were in free fall and were virtually down, their mini revival put masses pressure on us at a time that we were low on confidence... its a funny old game.
Totally agree with you concerning Muamba, that was definitely the turning point of our season, I really thought we’d turned the corner up until the Bolton game. Wanderers where there for taking had it not been for the ‘Muamba’ factor, not many teams would have beaten Bolton on that day under those circumstances. You really have to learn to forgive and forget Jeppo, grouping fans is just not correct, I personally wanted shut of Allardyce, but I wanted to give Ince a chance; I even wanted to give Kean a chance. Not everyone can see into the future or be astute as your good self. I’ll say this again for yours, Bazzer, piemans etc sake…sacking Allardyce is not the reason the club is in this mess….the day Venkeys bought the club is!.......Allardyce couldn’t/wouldn’ t have worked for this regime even if he’d not been pushed & do you really think Sam was sacked because Venkeys where listening to fans like me? Bazzer does;-) The Venkeys don’t listen to the fans, then , now or ever, get used to it, the club is in freefall.
Will you be joining in a chorus of "We should have kept Big Sam!" on Monday night?
But I have said it before, and this is where we converge (though it took some time for the penny to drop vis a vis the regime) the sacking of Big Sam was the move which betrayed the Venky intentions in one fell swoop.
There is a chap sits not too far from me in the Riverside who always loudly berated "hoofball". I haven't seen him for 4 months. If he is there on Monday I am going to flick his ears and call him a goon!!!
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jeppo[/bold] wrote: Thanks Mr Cryer, this is a really good piece...enjoyed it. . sorry if this point has been made before, I dont read too much on here these days, as its usually the same old negative lot that slagged off Ince then Allardyce and craved entertaining football...and now slag off Kean to an even greater level, BUT; . Aside from all the 'obvious' reasons, the reality is that the Fabrice Muamba situation has actually been a massive factor in our demise. We were on a decent run, having got 10 points from the previous 5 games before the Bolton game, but they were on fire that night, first game back since Fabrice, we ended up losing, next game was Man Utd and then all of a sudden, the confidence drops and we lost 5 games on the run. Pre Fabrice, Bolton were in free fall and were virtually down, their mini revival put masses pressure on us at a time that we were low on confidence... its a funny old game.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you concerning Muamba, that was definitely the turning point of our season, I really thought we’d turned the corner up until the Bolton game. Wanderers where there for taking had it not been for the ‘Muamba’ factor, not many teams would have beaten Bolton on that day under those circumstances. You really have to learn to forgive and forget Jeppo, grouping fans is just not correct, I personally wanted shut of Allardyce, but I wanted to give Ince a chance; I even wanted to give Kean a chance. Not everyone can see into the future or be astute as your good self. I’ll say this again for yours, Bazzer, piemans etc sake…sacking Allardyce is not the reason the club is in this mess….the day Venkeys bought the club is!.......Allardyce couldn’t/wouldn’ t have worked for this regime even if he’d not been pushed & do you really think Sam was sacked because Venkeys where listening to fans like me? Bazzer does;-) The Venkeys don’t listen to the fans, then , now or ever, get used to it, the club is in freefall.[/p][/quote]Will you be joining in a chorus of "We should have kept Big Sam!" on Monday night? But I have said it before, and this is where we converge (though it took some time for the penny to drop vis a vis the regime) the sacking of Big Sam was the move which betrayed the Venky intentions in one fell swoop. There is a chap sits not too far from me in the Riverside who always loudly berated "hoofball". I haven't seen him for 4 months. If he is there on Monday I am going to flick his ears and call him a goon!!! Bazzer

3:47pm Thu 3 May 12

makaveli96 says...

Caspar the ghost wrote:
makaveli96 wrote: All these "softly softly" protests dont work! They never have! Tell me ONE peaceful protest that has ever made a change? Im not having a go at the people taking part, we all want whats best for the club. What would they do in South America with such owners?
Ghandi?
Ghandi is one of the reasons Venkys are in business today!!

I knew he wasnt all he was made out to be!
[quote][p][bold]Caspar the ghost[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: All these "softly softly" protests dont work! They never have! Tell me ONE peaceful protest that has ever made a change? Im not having a go at the people taking part, we all want whats best for the club. What would they do in South America with such owners?[/p][/quote]Ghandi?[/p][/quote]Ghandi is one of the reasons Venkys are in business today!! I knew he wasnt all he was made out to be! makaveli96

3:55pm Thu 3 May 12

Iiii1111 says...

Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man.

No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter.

I hope he gives you a good hiding.
Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man. No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter. I hope he gives you a good hiding. Iiii1111

4:40pm Thu 3 May 12

merlinrabbit says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man.

No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter.

I hope he gives you a good hiding.
its because of shortsighted people like you that Venkys have pulled off this massive Sting job. Sacking Allardyce for the illogical reasons they gave followed immediately with illogical actions was the first sign of their intention. I saw what was coming then.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man. No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter. I hope he gives you a good hiding.[/p][/quote]its because of shortsighted people like you that Venkys have pulled off this massive Sting job. Sacking Allardyce for the illogical reasons they gave followed immediately with illogical actions was the first sign of their intention. I saw what was coming then. merlinrabbit

5:03pm Thu 3 May 12

French Rover says...

I have no idea why the Venky's sacked Allardyce (fans opinions were split at the time) but don't forget that Newcastle had sacked him too....and from what I hear some good friends in London (who are devout Hammer fans) then David Gold at West Ham is soon to give Sam the chop there also...and this is even if they go up via the play-offs.

Apparently Gold (and a lot of the fans) believe that the team they have should have had the league won by Christmas as they are that far ahead of the rest! But the Sam tactics have been so negative and safe that he has almost screwed promotion up completely.

Gold wanted to sack him at Easter (and that was leaked to the press) but was persuaded to wait until the end of the season as Sam promised to play a more expansive game with mote attack minded football and to be fair that has happened - but just too late for them to go up automatically unless Southampton blow it in the last game.

Wonder if they will take Kean as a replacement....
I have no idea why the Venky's sacked Allardyce (fans opinions were split at the time) but don't forget that Newcastle had sacked him too....and from what I hear some good friends in London (who are devout Hammer fans) then David Gold at West Ham is soon to give Sam the chop there also...and this is even if they go up via the play-offs. Apparently Gold (and a lot of the fans) believe that the team they have should have had the league won by Christmas as they are that far ahead of the rest! But the Sam tactics have been so negative and safe that he has almost screwed promotion up completely. Gold wanted to sack him at Easter (and that was leaked to the press) but was persuaded to wait until the end of the season as Sam promised to play a more expansive game with mote attack minded football and to be fair that has happened - but just too late for them to go up automatically unless Southampton blow it in the last game. Wonder if they will take Kean as a replacement.... French Rover

5:05pm Thu 3 May 12

Iiii1111 says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man.

No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter.

I hope he gives you a good hiding.
its because of shortsighted people like you that Venkys have pulled off this massive Sting job. Sacking Allardyce for the illogical reasons they gave followed immediately with illogical actions was the first sign of their intention. I saw what was coming then.
why' it mine and people like me's fault? Venky don't take any notice of the fans certainly not me, did you not see that......coming then

I know you’re hurting, all true Rovers fans are, if it makes you feel better blame me.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man. No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter. I hope he gives you a good hiding.[/p][/quote]its because of shortsighted people like you that Venkys have pulled off this massive Sting job. Sacking Allardyce for the illogical reasons they gave followed immediately with illogical actions was the first sign of their intention. I saw what was coming then.[/p][/quote]why' it mine and people like me's fault? Venky don't take any notice of the fans certainly not me, did you not see that......coming then I know you’re hurting, all true Rovers fans are, if it makes you feel better blame me. Iiii1111

5:27pm Thu 3 May 12

eddie the eagle says...

No supporter what ever their views is resposible for where we are today.
There was a chance to take over a football club relatively cheaply and somebody,we know who, exploited it.Venkys were only the front men,unsuspecting pawns in my opinion who were led to believe that a club could be run without investment by lowering the wage bill and spending less on players.It maybe possible but not to stay in the premiership,but that was not important there was money to be made in the first 12 months after that who cares.
I'm not sure that Venkys know what to do to extract themselves from the mess.I am sure that ignoring the fans and watching in silence while Rome burns is not the answer.
People like Iii1111,jeppo,Bazzer
,HH,Woody,myself and many more will always have different opinions but agree on one thing,that Rovers is their club and by bad management and maybe skulduggery it as been ruined.
Worst of all it as all been overseen by a wittering buffoon who has slowly led us to ruin and at the same time cannot keep his stupid mouth shut.
We all know who sacked Big Sam and it wasn't Morst or Iii1111 and it wasn't Venkys.
No supporter what ever their views is resposible for where we are today. There was a chance to take over a football club relatively cheaply and somebody,we know who, exploited it.Venkys were only the front men,unsuspecting pawns in my opinion who were led to believe that a club could be run without investment by lowering the wage bill and spending less on players.It maybe possible but not to stay in the premiership,but that was not important there was money to be made in the first 12 months after that who cares. I'm not sure that Venkys know what to do to extract themselves from the mess.I am sure that ignoring the fans and watching in silence while Rome burns is not the answer. People like Iii1111,jeppo,Bazzer ,HH,Woody,myself and many more will always have different opinions but agree on one thing,that Rovers is their club and by bad management and maybe skulduggery it as been ruined. Worst of all it as all been overseen by a wittering buffoon who has slowly led us to ruin and at the same time cannot keep his stupid mouth shut. We all know who sacked Big Sam and it wasn't Morst or Iii1111 and it wasn't Venkys. eddie the eagle

5:36pm Thu 3 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

French Rover wrote:
I have no idea why the Venky's sacked Allardyce (fans opinions were split at the time) but don't forget that Newcastle had sacked him too....and from what I hear some good friends in London (who are devout Hammer fans) then David Gold at West Ham is soon to give Sam the chop there also...and this is even if they go up via the play-offs.

Apparently Gold (and a lot of the fans) believe that the team they have should have had the league won by Christmas as they are that far ahead of the rest! But the Sam tactics have been so negative and safe that he has almost screwed promotion up completely.

Gold wanted to sack him at Easter (and that was leaked to the press) but was persuaded to wait until the end of the season as Sam promised to play a more expansive game with mote attack minded football and to be fair that has happened - but just too late for them to go up automatically unless Southampton blow it in the last game.

Wonder if they will take Kean as a replacement....
Quit your anti Sam cr@p!! Sam Allardyce saved the club from certain relegation (after the Paul Ince debacle) and has a managerial track record that stands up against most - particularly against our current incumbent!!
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I would happily put up with Sam's tactics if it gets us back into the top 10 of the Premier League....end of!!!!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: I have no idea why the Venky's sacked Allardyce (fans opinions were split at the time) but don't forget that Newcastle had sacked him too....and from what I hear some good friends in London (who are devout Hammer fans) then David Gold at West Ham is soon to give Sam the chop there also...and this is even if they go up via the play-offs. Apparently Gold (and a lot of the fans) believe that the team they have should have had the league won by Christmas as they are that far ahead of the rest! But the Sam tactics have been so negative and safe that he has almost screwed promotion up completely. Gold wanted to sack him at Easter (and that was leaked to the press) but was persuaded to wait until the end of the season as Sam promised to play a more expansive game with mote attack minded football and to be fair that has happened - but just too late for them to go up automatically unless Southampton blow it in the last game. Wonder if they will take Kean as a replacement....[/p][/quote]Quit your anti Sam cr@p!! Sam Allardyce saved the club from certain relegation (after the Paul Ince debacle) and has a managerial track record that stands up against most - particularly against our current incumbent!! . I would happily put up with Sam's tactics if it gets us back into the top 10 of the Premier League....end of!!!! smellthecoffee

5:36pm Thu 3 May 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Like a good conman trickster Andersen and his fellow agents and Kean saw Venkys coming and thought - here is an easy mugging and they won't even realise it until it is too late.
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My guess is Venkys are more naive and stupid about football than anything else but they are not stupid about money and quickly sold off the family silver in panic.
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The mystery is why they still have not sussed out Kean when the rest of the world already has and sacked him? He just wants a pay-off -and that was obvious 12 months ago. Silly Venkys!
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34th....
Like a good conman trickster Andersen and his fellow agents and Kean saw Venkys coming and thought - here is an easy mugging and they won't even realise it until it is too late. . My guess is Venkys are more naive and stupid about football than anything else but they are not stupid about money and quickly sold off the family silver in panic. . The mystery is why they still have not sussed out Kean when the rest of the world already has and sacked him? He just wants a pay-off -and that was obvious 12 months ago. Silly Venkys! . 34th.... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

5:40pm Thu 3 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
French Rover wrote:
I have no idea why the Venky's sacked Allardyce (fans opinions were split at the time) but don't forget that Newcastle had sacked him too....and from what I hear some good friends in London (who are devout Hammer fans) then David Gold at West Ham is soon to give Sam the chop there also...and this is even if they go up via the play-offs.

Apparently Gold (and a lot of the fans) believe that the team they have should have had the league won by Christmas as they are that far ahead of the rest! But the Sam tactics have been so negative and safe that he has almost screwed promotion up completely.

Gold wanted to sack him at Easter (and that was leaked to the press) but was persuaded to wait until the end of the season as Sam promised to play a more expansive game with mote attack minded football and to be fair that has happened - but just too late for them to go up automatically unless Southampton blow it in the last game.

Wonder if they will take Kean as a replacement....
Quit your anti Sam cr@p!! Sam Allardyce saved the club from certain relegation (after the Paul Ince debacle) and has a managerial track record that stands up against most - particularly against our current incumbent!!
.
I would happily put up with Sam's tactics if it gets us back into the top 10 of the Premier League....end of!!!!
and I think you'll find Southampton are already up. The Championship season finished last week!! You clearly know your stuff.....
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: I have no idea why the Venky's sacked Allardyce (fans opinions were split at the time) but don't forget that Newcastle had sacked him too....and from what I hear some good friends in London (who are devout Hammer fans) then David Gold at West Ham is soon to give Sam the chop there also...and this is even if they go up via the play-offs. Apparently Gold (and a lot of the fans) believe that the team they have should have had the league won by Christmas as they are that far ahead of the rest! But the Sam tactics have been so negative and safe that he has almost screwed promotion up completely. Gold wanted to sack him at Easter (and that was leaked to the press) but was persuaded to wait until the end of the season as Sam promised to play a more expansive game with mote attack minded football and to be fair that has happened - but just too late for them to go up automatically unless Southampton blow it in the last game. Wonder if they will take Kean as a replacement....[/p][/quote]Quit your anti Sam cr@p!! Sam Allardyce saved the club from certain relegation (after the Paul Ince debacle) and has a managerial track record that stands up against most - particularly against our current incumbent!! . I would happily put up with Sam's tactics if it gets us back into the top 10 of the Premier League....end of!!!![/p][/quote]and I think you'll find Southampton are already up. The Championship season finished last week!! You clearly know your stuff..... smellthecoffee

6:50pm Thu 3 May 12

maltese blue n white says...

Please correct me if Iam wrong Mr Cryer... but isn't this the same column that is now berating Kean, Venky's and the pr1ck I can't name, or my comment will be removed, that told the fans that their protests were "out of order"

whatever... Cueball Kean OUT!!!
Venky's OUT!!! and ANDERSON OUT.. and take your useless son with you...
Please correct me if Iam wrong Mr Cryer... but isn't this the same column that is now berating Kean, Venky's and the pr1ck I can't name, or my comment will be removed, that told the fans that their protests were "out of order" whatever... Cueball Kean OUT!!! Venky's OUT!!! and ANDERSON OUT.. and take your useless son with you... maltese blue n white

8:07pm Thu 3 May 12

mavrick says...

As a neutral I feared for Rovers when the lady from Venky's opened her mouth. It was blatantly obvious the they had no idea what they had bought, they understood nothing about the history or meaning of a football club has to a town. I dont believe Blackburn would be able to bounce back from the championship league, unless there is a change of ownership. The only way the fans can ensure that happens is to keep your money in your pocket until you achieve the desired result.
As for any adverse comments just remember this could happen to your club.
As a neutral I feared for Rovers when the lady from Venky's opened her mouth. It was blatantly obvious the they had no idea what they had bought, they understood nothing about the history or meaning of a football club has to a town. I dont believe Blackburn would be able to bounce back from the championship league, unless there is a change of ownership. The only way the fans can ensure that happens is to keep your money in your pocket until you achieve the desired result. As for any adverse comments just remember this could happen to your club. mavrick

8:59pm Thu 3 May 12

3bricks says...

After sam had played 17 games we had 21 points and he was sacked, the clown in charge now after 17 games had 10 points and in the wisdom of the venkys gave him a vote of confidence.Kean is by far the worst manager I"ve seen at ewood since I first went in 1945.Been a season ticket holder for 20 years but this season it"s on hold till kean is sacked
After sam had played 17 games we had 21 points and he was sacked, the clown in charge now after 17 games had 10 points and in the wisdom of the venkys gave him a vote of confidence.Kean is by far the worst manager I"ve seen at ewood since I first went in 1945.Been a season ticket holder for 20 years but this season it"s on hold till kean is sacked 3bricks

10:57pm Thu 3 May 12

reiko082 says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man.

No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter.

I hope he gives you a good hiding.
Wait, this is coming from someone who believes "Muamba was a major factor in our demise" and thought "we had turned a corner" after 2 wins in a row.

Common sense, you say. Priceless.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: Get over Allardyce, he was/is irrelevant to the problems at the club, use a little common sense man. No, I won’t be singing because I won’t be there. .. a retired home supporter. I hope he gives you a good hiding.[/p][/quote]Wait, this is coming from someone who believes "Muamba was a major factor in our demise" and thought "we had turned a corner" after 2 wins in a row. Common sense, you say. Priceless. reiko082

12:25am Fri 4 May 12

greenscreener says...

Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job.
Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.
Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade. greenscreener

2:53am Fri 4 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

greenscreener wrote:
Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.
oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight
ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!!
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.[/p][/quote]oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!! smellthecoffee

6:58am Fri 4 May 12

Dan11 says...

The Corrupt Indian puppet masters and the bald slapper, need to sell up and leave the club.
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You have ruined one of the proudest and most successful clubs in modern day football, within 18 months. Disgrace and sell up and go away.
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You are in for one all mighty shock in the Wigan game. (bald slapper in person, Wankys by tv link)
The Corrupt Indian puppet masters and the bald slapper, need to sell up and leave the club. - You have ruined one of the proudest and most successful clubs in modern day football, within 18 months. Disgrace and sell up and go away. - You are in for one all mighty shock in the Wigan game. (bald slapper in person, Wankys by tv link) Dan11

7:48am Fri 4 May 12

greenscreener says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
greenscreener wrote: Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.
oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!!
If you believe that Allardyce is the only manager who could keep Blackburn in the Premiership you are clearly a fool.
If and when we get the chance to rebuild this club I hope to god its around football and not your 'up and under' dross.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.[/p][/quote]oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!![/p][/quote]If you believe that Allardyce is the only manager who could keep Blackburn in the Premiership you are clearly a fool. If and when we get the chance to rebuild this club I hope to god its around football and not your 'up and under' dross. greenscreener

12:18pm Fri 4 May 12

rggraham1947 says...

Roque Santa Cruz and Benni McCarthy "goalscoring geniuses"? What planet are you on? Or, more likely, which drugs?
Roque Santa Cruz and Benni McCarthy "goalscoring geniuses"? What planet are you on? Or, more likely, which drugs? rggraham1947

12:32pm Fri 4 May 12

jeppo says...

He's maybe not the only manager, but he is one of the best, for the circumstances that we were in...there are some lovely cases of teams coming up into the league with a "new style of football" that do well for a couple of years, but then what happens??
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There is a very similar manager out there as I'm sure we all agree;
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Tony Pulis is a very similar manager to Allardyce, he knows that he has to keep evolving and keep improving the squad and he also knows that whatever happens you have to fight for every point and make sure you can make the most of set pieces - not that complicated really..
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Still...Paul Jewell(Wigan), Mowbray (West Brom), Coyle (Burnley), Brown (Hull), Holloway (Blackpool) have all had their moments. WHERE ARE THEY NOW???
He's maybe not the only manager, but he is one of the best, for the circumstances that we were in...there are some lovely cases of teams coming up into the league with a "new style of football" that do well for a couple of years, but then what happens?? . There is a very similar manager out there as I'm sure we all agree; . Tony Pulis is a very similar manager to Allardyce, he knows that he has to keep evolving and keep improving the squad and he also knows that whatever happens you have to fight for every point and make sure you can make the most of set pieces - not that complicated really.. . Still...Paul Jewell(Wigan), Mowbray (West Brom), Coyle (Burnley), Brown (Hull), Holloway (Blackpool) have all had their moments. WHERE ARE THEY NOW??? jeppo

2:11pm Fri 4 May 12

smellthecoffee says...

greenscreener wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
greenscreener wrote: Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.
oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!!
If you believe that Allardyce is the only manager who could keep Blackburn in the Premiership you are clearly a fool.
If and when we get the chance to rebuild this club I hope to god its around football and not your 'up and under' dross.
YOU ARE CLEARLY THE FOOL!! Check your facts before you spout your rubbish on here. Stoke, under Tony Pulis, play a similar game to SA - if not more so. Do you see many demonstrations down at the Britannia Stadium?? If you've got something reasonably intelligent to say then say it, failing that please don't embarrass yourself.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.[/p][/quote]oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!![/p][/quote]If you believe that Allardyce is the only manager who could keep Blackburn in the Premiership you are clearly a fool. If and when we get the chance to rebuild this club I hope to god its around football and not your 'up and under' dross.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE CLEARLY THE FOOL!! Check your facts before you spout your rubbish on here. Stoke, under Tony Pulis, play a similar game to SA - if not more so. Do you see many demonstrations down at the Britannia Stadium?? If you've got something reasonably intelligent to say then say it, failing that please don't embarrass yourself. smellthecoffee

2:53pm Fri 4 May 12

greenscreener says...

jeppo wrote:
He's maybe not the only manager, but he is one of the best, for the circumstances that we were in...there are some lovely cases of teams coming up into the league with a "new style of football" that do well for a couple of years, but then what happens?? . There is a very similar manager out there as I'm sure we all agree; . Tony Pulis is a very similar manager to Allardyce, he knows that he has to keep evolving and keep improving the squad and he also knows that whatever happens you have to fight for every point and make sure you can make the most of set pieces - not that complicated really.. . Still...Paul Jewell(Wigan), Mowbray (West Brom), Coyle (Burnley), Brown (Hull), Holloway (Blackpool) have all had their moments. WHERE ARE THEY NOW???
Jeppo, for the circumstances we were in, I do agree we needed an authority figure with a clear strategy. That's Sam. My point is that a good manager, e.g. Mark Hughes, could equally have sorted it out, without resorting to dull long ball tactics.
The point you make about "evolving, improving, fighting for every point, make the most of set pieces," applies to any manager, not just those who think open play needs to be turned into a set piece asap.

As for where are they now, well looking at that list I see they are not all in the bin with Mick McCarthy, Neil Warnock and the other disciples of direct.com....

I do respect Sam for what he achieved, but this whole blog was about memories, and my memories of the football in the Allardyce era are just not that special.
[quote][p][bold]jeppo[/bold] wrote: He's maybe not the only manager, but he is one of the best, for the circumstances that we were in...there are some lovely cases of teams coming up into the league with a "new style of football" that do well for a couple of years, but then what happens?? . There is a very similar manager out there as I'm sure we all agree; . Tony Pulis is a very similar manager to Allardyce, he knows that he has to keep evolving and keep improving the squad and he also knows that whatever happens you have to fight for every point and make sure you can make the most of set pieces - not that complicated really.. . Still...Paul Jewell(Wigan), Mowbray (West Brom), Coyle (Burnley), Brown (Hull), Holloway (Blackpool) have all had their moments. WHERE ARE THEY NOW???[/p][/quote]Jeppo, for the circumstances we were in, I do agree we needed an authority figure with a clear strategy. That's Sam. My point is that a good manager, e.g. Mark Hughes, could equally have sorted it out, without resorting to dull long ball tactics. The point you make about "evolving, improving, fighting for every point, make the most of set pieces," applies to any manager, not just those who think open play needs to be turned into a set piece asap. As for where are they now, well looking at that list I see they are not all in the bin with Mick McCarthy, Neil Warnock and the other disciples of direct.com.... I do respect Sam for what he achieved, but this whole blog was about memories, and my memories of the football in the Allardyce era are just not that special. greenscreener

3:05pm Fri 4 May 12

greenscreener says...

smellthecoffee wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
smellthecoffee wrote:
greenscreener wrote: Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.
oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!!
If you believe that Allardyce is the only manager who could keep Blackburn in the Premiership you are clearly a fool. If and when we get the chance to rebuild this club I hope to god its around football and not your 'up and under' dross.
YOU ARE CLEARLY THE FOOL!! Check your facts before you spout your rubbish on here. Stoke, under Tony Pulis, play a similar game to SA - if not more so. Do you see many demonstrations down at the Britannia Stadium?? If you've got something reasonably intelligent to say then say it, failing that please don't embarrass yourself.
If you want to watch that kind of stuff every week then you are welcome to go to Stoke. I'm sure you will enjoy it.

Some of us, like the Newcastle fans who saw it coming, aspire to something better.
[quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smellthecoffee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Kean is undoubtably the worst Rovers manager ever. So bad that the conspiracy theories appear quite plausible. However Sam Allardyce was living on borrowed time, his tactics were alienating many Rovers fans. The way he was ditched by Venkys probably meant his reputation was protected enough to get him the West Ham job. Sams main achievement was bringing some order to a club left in disarray after the hapless Ince failed completely to fill the boots of the impressive and successful Hughes. For that alone Sam should be respected, but please, watching his team was a frustrating experience, a memory that should be allowed to fade.[/p][/quote]oh yes...i would much rather be watching rovers in the Championship in front of a half empty stadium (if we're lucky), rather than watching Premier League football. Sam was only on borrowed time with the clueless/short-sight ed few - you clearly being one of them. Top ten finishes for a club of Rover's stature is an achievement, no matter how those points are gained!![/p][/quote]If you believe that Allardyce is the only manager who could keep Blackburn in the Premiership you are clearly a fool. If and when we get the chance to rebuild this club I hope to god its around football and not your 'up and under' dross.[/p][/quote]YOU ARE CLEARLY THE FOOL!! Check your facts before you spout your rubbish on here. Stoke, under Tony Pulis, play a similar game to SA - if not more so. Do you see many demonstrations down at the Britannia Stadium?? If you've got something reasonably intelligent to say then say it, failing that please don't embarrass yourself.[/p][/quote]If you want to watch that kind of stuff every week then you are welcome to go to Stoke. I'm sure you will enjoy it. Some of us, like the Newcastle fans who saw it coming, aspire to something better. greenscreener

11:42am Mon 7 May 12

brovers4ever says...

Great article on Steve Kean here guys - someone finally telling it like it is http://andrewhowells

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Great article on Steve Kean here guys - someone finally telling it like it is http://andrewhowells .wordpress.com/2012/ 05/04/steve-kean-ful ly-aware-or-wilfully -blind/#comment-32 brovers4ever

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