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Blackburn Rovers blog: Time to call truce
1:00pm Thursday 15th December 2011 in Blackburn Rovers blogs
THIS may sound controversial to some but Blackburn Rovers’ best, and only, chance of staying in the Premier League lies with their owners Venky’s.
Yes, their first 12 months in charge of the football club has been an unmitigated disaster and there are few signs of things improving.
But if they don’t improve we might as well all start planning for trips to Doncaster, Bristol City and Burnley now.
All these calls for ‘Venky’s out’ are understandable – as the calls for Steve Kean out are – but if the Indian poultry farmers take them to heart then Rovers are left up the creek without a paddle.
We need them to come to Ewood Park, start seriously planning for January and, more important than anything, invest significant cash into the transfer pot to give Steve Kean’s men a chance of surviving in the Premier League.
Would you do that when you have thousands screaming abuse at you every time you show your face? Most people would certainly think twice.
Don’t get me wrong, I get the anger, I get the concern and I get the frustration. We are all feeling it at the moment.
But, with little more than a fortnight left before the window opens, there is no white knight ready to ride into town in time to solve these current woes.
The reason why Rovers are where they are is a combination of lack of investment in the squad in the summer and some very poor signings. Venky’s and boss Steve Kean have to take equal responsibility for that if the claims all signings were the managers are to be believed.
Venky’s have already backed their manager vocally but they need to back him with cash now and if they don’t then their commitment to this club is there for all to see.
It is obvious there are discussions going on with Barclays Bank, although predictions of financial armageddon seem way over the top, but if Venky’s are as wealthy as they claim to be start putting your own money into this mess.
They need to know a football club in the Championship would be almost worthless to them.
At the moment it is like a stand-off, with the owners in India – after a bad experience at Wigan – and the supporters here.
We need them here and we need them doing what they shuld have done a long time ago, and that is leading from the front.
I’m not asking anyone to cheer manically the next time they see either of the Rao brothers or Anuradha Desai, I’m just echoing yesterday’s call for a truce to give them the chance to sort things out.
If they decide not to take this ‘last chance’ then that is up to them. But at least we would have tried.
Comments(78)
sallycinamon
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1:12pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Cockney Rover
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1:14pm Thu 15 Dec 11
The dynamic duo of Kean & Venkys would need to perform a minor miracle to regain the trust of many fans.
I may stand corrected by the close season but if this pack of jokers are still at the helm come May I firmly expect to say goodbye to the Prem and a few wilderness seasons in the Champ.
dangerous dave
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1:19pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Money is hard to come by in a small East Lancashire town and the fans paying at the turn gates each week deserve better!!!
Kean and his colleagues walk away 'win or loose' with thousands of pounds in their back pockets not so the fans and its about time Kean and especially the Venky's understand this!!
The Venky's bought a Football club without any knowledge of its workings or indeed its 'once' proud background - their first steps getting shut of an exerienced Manager and then the best CEO in the Premiership - they fully deserve what they have got frm the majority of supporters and that is 'no repect' - if they are not big enough tostand up and be counted they should sell up and move on - personally I have no time for them!!
As I previously said let them put their money where their mouth is and prove their true intent for the Club!!
east belfast rover
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1:26pm Thu 15 Dec 11
A Rover 45 years and over
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1:29pm Thu 15 Dec 11
makaveli96
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1:30pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Thats like me going to India and not realising Bangladesh has left!
pepperpot2296
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1:39pm Thu 15 Dec 11
pepperpot2296
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1:39pm Thu 15 Dec 11
pepperpot2296
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1:39pm Thu 15 Dec 11
pepperpot2296
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1:39pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Rovers til I cry
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1:41pm Thu 15 Dec 11
What is the point in keep writing these pathetic give them a chance articles. They've had it over and over and responded by keeping clueless Kean in charge.
If Venkys have not realised there is a problem by now they never will, and giving a transfer kitty to Steve Kean is tantamount to wasting more cash we appear not to have.
If Venky's take umbridge at the fans chants should we worry that they might go away and do nothing, after all since they have been in charge that is all they appear to have done with any conviction.
They won't sell because with the state we are in, they would probably now make a massive loss, so the pressure needs to be kept up to get them to change the manager, which I firmly believe will change our fortunes.
ossybsting
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1:45pm Thu 15 Dec 11
poo banger
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1:48pm Thu 15 Dec 11
i have left venkeys and kean to it there is no way in hell i will be setting foot in ewood till they have gone. can't see any point in turning up to something i know is going to be painful and embarrassing even if tickets are less than a tenner or whatever it's still not worth it, especially when the owners and kean don't care for the club, if they did they would have both left at the end of last season. they just want to srew the best possible deal they can for themselves out of the club FACT
dangerous dave
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1:59pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Chasalbert
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2:02pm Thu 15 Dec 11
"Kean was nabbed at the green channel, penalised for carrying undeclared valuables, and thereafter released," said a senior customs official at the Mumbai airport, on condition of anonymity.www.mid-da
y .com/news june 11
What else does he hide
spike t
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2:14pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Dan11
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2:29pm Thu 15 Dec 11
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Another day in which our proud once well established premierleague club gets closer and closer to the Championship.
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All hope of us staying up this season is gone.
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These bafoons waited far too long with Steve Kean as manager and now the position is beyond repair.
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I hope the Venkys know that miracles dont happen in the premierleague.
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If they think planting articles is going to get us points in the table, then someone needs to explain football to them.
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If they think it is going to keep the fans coming while this club is continued to be run unto the ground and into the championship then someone needs to explain the law of football support to them.
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We will stay away until you either do a 360 degree and turn this around, which I am afraid for the chairwomen this involves sacking Steve Kean. Or until you sell up to someone who knows how to run a football club
Brfc24138931
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2:31pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Gaz M
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3:10pm Thu 15 Dec 11
lusorover
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3:19pm Thu 15 Dec 11
The whole football world knows that the owners have made mistake after mistake after mistake, starting with the dismissal of Allardyce, but the ignorant and disrespectful nature of the protests was never going to do anything other than alienate the very people on whom the future of the Club depends.
The protesters have shot themselves in the foot by their own ignorant actions which have alienated the owners to the point where they probably fear for their own safety and all fans will now have to suffer the consequences of life outside the Premier League.
Disaffected fans may not like it but the Club belongs to Venkys and only they will determine how much, if any, money will be spent on strengthening the squad. They earned that right by paying for the Club when no-one else was interested.
It seems to be the case that the Club is now going to pay lip-service to the idea of communication with the 'leaders' of the 'organised' protests but it also seems to be the case that these 'leaders' are simultaneously promoting the idea of 'non-organised' protests.
They have not been able to carry the dissatisfied fans with them and are aware that, for all their undoubted efforts, they have no control over the minority of fans who are determined to vent their anger by further vile abuse of the owners. Some of this minority of fans now believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have somehow sold out by entering into dialogue with the Club.
If there is any hope for the future of the Club it can only come from a decision on the part of the owners to invest in the Club and to do this they must be confident that they will not face the vila abuse which has pertained to date.
Sadly, I do not believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have the desire or ability to change the attitude of their 'followers.
thresholdweller
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3:21pm Thu 15 Dec 11
RobbyRover
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3:34pm Thu 15 Dec 11
I'm always behind Blackburn Rovers and I'm more than happy to get behind Venky's - so long as they sack Kean, bring in a respected manager and sort out the boardroom. It's that simple. Sack the useless plank and you'll be well on your way to redeeming yourself with 99% of the fans.
That's where I'm at.
chegwin
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3:49pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Its no surprise Swansea want him.
smellthecoffee
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3:56pm Thu 15 Dec 11
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so if there is few signs of improving...and Venkys won't sack the manager....why should people not be protesting?? They pay their money for heaven's sake...should we all just sit back on watch the team we've supported for years implode in front of us without fighting to save it?? Should we allow Jack's dream and hard work to simply evaporate?? Does Jack Walker not deserve more respect than that!!!!!???
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Not impressed Andy tbh...not one bit!!! You should be ashamed of that piece.
samblue
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3:57pm Thu 15 Dec 11
mwoods1
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3:58pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Steve Kean you are ruining our club.
The squad of players is also to blame too.
Last seasons team was probably not as strong as this seasons team.
We had Diouf, De Santos, and Jones last season.
This season we have Rochina, Yakubu and Lowe that have all come in.
With the exception of Jones I do not think the squad is any less capable of keeping us up.
I just feel a lot of the players' body language and performances this season suggest we are not gonna get out of this mess.
Yes.. Steve Kean needs to go but he will not walk. I think he needs to get his team selection and formation right before he does anything.
Yakubu has done really well this season and would do even better with someone to play off.
The only reason Kean will not play a 4 4 2 formation is because he has not got the players to do it.
Sadly, our team lacks a natural leader (Jones was that last season and he was only 18). The players look like they are all waiting for someone else to get hold of the game when I wish someone would just grow some cahoonas and be the first to do it. This would give both the fans and other players a lift too.
Our midfield is where we need to strenghten.
Dunn is too slow and cannot last 60 minutes, Nzonzi is another David Batty, Pederson gives the ball and fouls away far too much and Hoilett looks as though he does not want to be here (he is the only one of the four of any class).
The question is who do we get in?
We have owners with no ambition and a manager who has no balls to tell the fans what is really going on behind the scenes and that he has no money to spend.
At least if he did that he would get a bit more respect from me.
The fact that he is staying does not suprise me. Would you walk out on a weekly wage or job that you are never gonna get again in your life!! His missus is probably telling him the same. He is getting as much cash in the coffers as he can and as long as he keeps backing up the owners they will keep him in a job.
I really hope we can get out of this mess, starting this weekend against West Brom.
Russ ov the rovers
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3:59pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Now I understand within their own culture they are considered some what upper-class, however this is the United Kingdom and they can not expect people to have the same respect for them when they have not shown any back.
On speaking to a few people that went to Pune to see the Rao family they said that they where sort of made to jump through different levels of the food chain before they could finally meet the main family, so this being true what hope has anyone of getting through to these people at any level?
Why should rovers fans all act like dancing dogs in order to intice these people to come to the table and sort this mess out?
After all these people came into our lives and our club and not the other way round.
smellthecoffee
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4:01pm Thu 15 Dec 11
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"Lot number 30...Andy Cryer of the Lancashire Evening Telegraph.......SOLD
!! to the Venky Brothers!!"
slongio
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4:19pm Thu 15 Dec 11
makaveli96
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4:23pm Thu 15 Dec 11
eddio
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4:25pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Until I see any evidence to the contrary, this remains the only constant in the whole sorry episode?
smellthecoffee
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4:32pm Thu 15 Dec 11
slongio wrote:Ewood PR out in force again....was this entire article written by them btw??
About time as well......time for the 12th man on sat and tues then see where we are!
Cockney Rover
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4:41pm Thu 15 Dec 11
slongio wrote:Quality attempt at reverse psychology there fella.
About time as well......time for the 12th man on sat and tues then see where we are!
As Benjamin Franklin said, 'the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results'.
Come back to us this time next week.
Dukes
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4:42pm Thu 15 Dec 11
merlinrabbit
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4:52pm Thu 15 Dec 11
guiderover
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5:23pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Dukes
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5:33pm Thu 15 Dec 11
I'm sorry but this is turning into a right proper fiasco.
I settle for Hughes or Carlo Ancelotti
venkys please sort it out pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeee we will forgive you if you please sack Steve Keannnnnnnnnn
its not a rocket science.
one more season
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5:40pm Thu 15 Dec 11
The reason Kean and Venkys are hated by the supporters is their own doing, something you gloss over.
Its about time your spineless reporting actually asked hard, yes HARD and Tough questions of the Chuckle Brothers and Lady Desai and didn't appear to just print statements handed to them.
Man Up as the modern term goes, before your newspaper starts being boycotted as well.
bring back the good old days
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6:22pm Thu 15 Dec 11
These people have damaged BRFC almost beyond repair; 135yrs vs 12mnths - come on!!!
bring back the good old days
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6:36pm Thu 15 Dec 11
lusorover wrote:Yet again Lus you are asking people to trust Venkys, why on earth should anyone - give me one positive to justify it - apart from declaring there is no one else. That smacks to me of defeatist i.e accept the rod thats thrashing you, because an alternative one MAY be worse! No thanks - disrespect is repayed by disrespect.
If you were a wealthy and highly successful business-person who had spent 23m on acquiring a football club and a minority of the fans not only treated you with a complete lack of respect but actually abused you incessantly in the flesh and in the local and national media would you pay any attention to them? The whole football world knows that the owners have made mistake after mistake after mistake, starting with the dismissal of Allardyce, but the ignorant and disrespectful nature of the protests was never going to do anything other than alienate the very people on whom the future of the Club depends. The protesters have shot themselves in the foot by their own ignorant actions which have alienated the owners to the point where they probably fear for their own safety and all fans will now have to suffer the consequences of life outside the Premier League. Disaffected fans may not like it but the Club belongs to Venkys and only they will determine how much, if any, money will be spent on strengthening the squad. They earned that right by paying for the Club when no-one else was interested. It seems to be the case that the Club is now going to pay lip-service to the idea of communication with the 'leaders' of the 'organised' protests but it also seems to be the case that these 'leaders' are simultaneously promoting the idea of 'non-organised' protests. They have not been able to carry the dissatisfied fans with them and are aware that, for all their undoubted efforts, they have no control over the minority of fans who are determined to vent their anger by further vile abuse of the owners. Some of this minority of fans now believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have somehow sold out by entering into dialogue with the Club. If there is any hope for the future of the Club it can only come from a decision on the part of the owners to invest in the Club and to do this they must be confident that they will not face the vila abuse which has pertained to date. Sadly, I do not believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have the desire or ability to change the attitude of their 'followers.
fabinribblevalley
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6:40pm Thu 15 Dec 11
lusorover wrote:A very sensible comment, I posted my view a few weeks ago which was similar to yours. Firstly if I had mega money the last thing I would buy is a football club, the disgusting behaviour of the brain dead uneducated morons who call themselves supporters (which they certainly are not) are a disgrace to the club and the memory of the late,great Jack Walker. I have supported and loved the rovers for more than 55 years and how ever this season pans out it will be my last. This is no longer a sport of dreams it is more like a sport of night mares. The people you mention in your posting are and will be the death of Blackburn Rovers FC
If you were a wealthy and highly successful business-person who had spent 23m on acquiring a football club and a minority of the fans not only treated you with a complete lack of respect but actually abused you incessantly in the flesh and in the local and national media would you pay any attention to them? The whole football world knows that the owners have made mistake after mistake after mistake, starting with the dismissal of Allardyce, but the ignorant and disrespectful nature of the protests was never going to do anything other than alienate the very people on whom the future of the Club depends. The protesters have shot themselves in the foot by their own ignorant actions which have alienated the owners to the point where they probably fear for their own safety and all fans will now have to suffer the consequences of life outside the Premier League. Disaffected fans may not like it but the Club belongs to Venkys and only they will determine how much, if any, money will be spent on strengthening the squad. They earned that right by paying for the Club when no-one else was interested. It seems to be the case that the Club is now going to pay lip-service to the idea of communication with the 'leaders' of the 'organised' protests but it also seems to be the case that these 'leaders' are simultaneously promoting the idea of 'non-organised' protests. They have not been able to carry the dissatisfied fans with them and are aware that, for all their undoubted efforts, they have no control over the minority of fans who are determined to vent their anger by further vile abuse of the owners. Some of this minority of fans now believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have somehow sold out by entering into dialogue with the Club. If there is any hope for the future of the Club it can only come from a decision on the part of the owners to invest in the Club and to do this they must be confident that they will not face the vila abuse which has pertained to date. Sadly, I do not believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have the desire or ability to change the attitude of their 'followers.
bring back the good old days
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6:41pm Thu 15 Dec 11
That's how bad things are.
steve42blue
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6:42pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Venky's own the club. The fans are the customers of the club - although most of us have a passionate loyalty to the club which makes us not merely customers but stakeholders as well.
However Venky's call the shots. They have appointed Steve Kean to run the team - and apparently - at least on the face of it - still think he is the best man for the job -"Brilliant" quotes etc., and the recent pay rise. They have managed to dismantle the management infrastructure at the club without replacing it with a full professional team running the operation.
If BRFC was a restaurant that I happened to like and new owners took over with a new "thoughtful and hard working" chef whose previous experience was serving in a KFC, and got rid of the cleaners and waiters, I'd probably take by custom elsewhere.
However it isn't a restaurant and there is only the one BFRC and I want it to survive. Venky's and their appointee Kean have have had plenty of opportunity to turn things around. Transfer windows wasted with players let go with not a lot of talent coming in and a distinct lack of Venky money coming in. Plently of time to have sorted a proper management structure. Plenty of time for Kean to prove himself worthy of the job.
This poor lack of progress has come when others - sponsors, fans forum, local business - and indeed yourself, Andy - have tried to have dialogue and make suggestions with no real outcome.
If there is to be some salvation for the club with Venky's as owners, then an immediate change of manager, setting up a proper administration and the provision of real funds for January is needed. If not the only way for them and us is down.
Venky's call the shots - it's up to them to prove they mean business after 12 months failure, not for the fans to make them comfortable. They have had plenty of time and deserve the stick they get.
If they deliver I'm sure fans attitude will change - but it's down to them.
bring back the good old days
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6:53pm Thu 15 Dec 11
fabinribblevalley wrote:As long a supporter as yourself, but I am sorry but yet again you are being blinded by spin where the blame is deflected against supporters, where in fact (as you should know) it is all down to Venkys.
lusorover wrote: If you were a wealthy and highly successful business-person who had spent 23m on acquiring a football club and a minority of the fans not only treated you with a complete lack of respect but actually abused you incessantly in the flesh and in the local and national media would you pay any attention to them? The whole football world knows that the owners have made mistake after mistake after mistake, starting with the dismissal of Allardyce, but the ignorant and disrespectful nature of the protests was never going to do anything other than alienate the very people on whom the future of the Club depends. The protesters have shot themselves in the foot by their own ignorant actions which have alienated the owners to the point where they probably fear for their own safety and all fans will now have to suffer the consequences of life outside the Premier League. Disaffected fans may not like it but the Club belongs to Venkys and only they will determine how much, if any, money will be spent on strengthening the squad. They earned that right by paying for the Club when no-one else was interested. It seems to be the case that the Club is now going to pay lip-service to the idea of communication with the 'leaders' of the 'organised' protests but it also seems to be the case that these 'leaders' are simultaneously promoting the idea of 'non-organised' protests. They have not been able to carry the dissatisfied fans with them and are aware that, for all their undoubted efforts, they have no control over the minority of fans who are determined to vent their anger by further vile abuse of the owners. Some of this minority of fans now believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have somehow sold out by entering into dialogue with the Club. If there is any hope for the future of the Club it can only come from a decision on the part of the owners to invest in the Club and to do this they must be confident that they will not face the vila abuse which has pertained to date. Sadly, I do not believe that the 'leaders' of the protests have the desire or ability to change the attitude of their 'followers.A very sensible comment, I posted my view a few weeks ago which was similar to yours. Firstly if I had mega money the last thing I would buy is a football club, the disgusting behaviour of the brain dead uneducated morons who call themselves supporters (which they certainly are not) are a disgrace to the club and the memory of the late,great Jack Walker. I have supported and loved the rovers for more than 55 years and how ever this season pans out it will be my last. This is no longer a sport of dreams it is more like a sport of night mares. The people you mention in your posting are and will be the death of Blackburn Rovers FC
Unless you know each and every one of these 'thugs' you are generalising and this is what the spin doctors want you to see.
How devoted supporters of BRFC determine how to 'protest' is up to them. BUT, it is Venkys who are the cause. Please keep this in mind when you lambast your fellow supporters. Yes, fellow supporters that have been here with you for a hell of a lot longer than Venkys and Kean.
philmoulden
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7:54pm Thu 15 Dec 11
FCBurnley
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7:59pm Thu 15 Dec 11
God Save The Kean
Langho blue
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8:12pm Thu 15 Dec 11
mersey-blues
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8:12pm Thu 15 Dec 11
stick to football
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8:37pm Thu 15 Dec 11
If they do not come to Ewood will protests 1000 miles away make any difference to them? or will they just dig their heels in and leave supporters with the same even if that brings inevitable relegation?
Venkys hold the aces - what their intentions are logic defies any sensible supporter knowing. The protests are understandable but get behind the 11 players on the field for the next 2 90 minutes and we may just have a chance.
If Kean would agree to step down if HIS TEAM did not achieve that target people may feel different about the guy - Integrity it is called
Rover Pete
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10:30pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Despite all they said about money they have spent less on the club than they got for Phil Jones. There has been no investment whatsoever in the club. Why would Barclays Bank be talking to them over an extended period if they had any money. You silly people are being conned again by people who are better at smoke and mirrors than you are.
Why or how could anybody in thier right mind believe a word these people say. Not one word they have uttered has turned out to be true.
Why would they start to say anything we can trust now?
petergray
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11:17pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Langho blue wrote:If this comes to pass then there is nothing on Earth that to happen to them and theirs that could possibly compensate for the horror they have visited upon us.
There is a lot of talk about getting Venkys back over and involved but no suggestions about what to do if they show no interest in backing the club in Jan.
They will truly suffer Hell on Earth and I will be first in the queue to rejoice in their suffering.
Mr-Reasonable
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11:34pm Thu 15 Dec 11
Livesey rover
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11:50pm Thu 15 Dec 11
gazzandste
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12:12am Fri 16 Dec 11
Roy of the
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2:15am Fri 16 Dec 11
The Venkys have been arrogant and dishonest from day one. They have failed to deliver on every promise they have ever made, and now appear to be in shtt at the bank. Well hey, yes. Give them a big fccking welcome for fccking up our club if they ever fccking show up.
And. your continual support of the Venkys will backfire. Fans buy your paper not owners in India.
slongio
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6:30am Fri 16 Dec 11
Cockney Rover wrote:Think you will find that has always been my opinion actually, I'm not interested in any reverse psychology that's just my opinion and always has been! If you look back you can check that as well **** ney rover! As for smelly well what can I say anyone who disagrees with your opinion is always ewood/kentaro PR! You got boring months ago! Bring on saturday, for the 12th man, oh and the smelly brigade........
slongio wrote:Quality attempt at reverse psychology there fella.
About time as well......time for the 12th man on sat and tues then see where we are!
As Benjamin Franklin said, 'the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results'.
Come back to us this time next week.
Mr-Reasonable
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8:12am Fri 16 Dec 11
YELLOW AND BLACK till he gets the sack
philmoulden
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8:33am Fri 16 Dec 11
bring in hughes ,give him the funds,
sit back and feel the power of support,
thats my message to venkys
smellthecoffee
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8:49am Fri 16 Dec 11
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Let's see if Venky's show a bit more concern when it is their money at risk...and not the club's.
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Failing that and it is asset strip all the way...just as was planned from the outset.
Marcus-BRFC
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8:50am Fri 16 Dec 11
dangerous dave
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8:51am Fri 16 Dec 11
bburnrover
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9:10am Fri 16 Dec 11
Maybe it is time for everyone on a pc to send messages to the Venkeys web sites to block them up and disrup their business.
ossyrover1
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9:43am Fri 16 Dec 11
ch.co.uk/laptv/podca
st/blackburn-cant-su
rvive-while-steve-ke
an-is-manager/
thresholdweller
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9:57am Fri 16 Dec 11
makaveli96 wrote:Let me guess. Only managers born in Blackburn, only players born in Blackburn, ........In fact why not play in one of the local leagues.
Only reporters who are born and bred in Blackburn (and live there to) have a right to comment on the Rovers!
Racing Rover
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10:28am Fri 16 Dec 11
SHAME ON YOU VENKY'S !!!
You are presiding over the death of a once proud football club. When hope has been lost there is nothing left, the apathy now is deafening.
roverfor60years
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10:33am Fri 16 Dec 11
For Venky's read Jerome Anderson. It was widely reported that Kean did not know of some of the summer signings - and Venky's could not possibly have made them. So who did?
roverfor60years
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11:29am Fri 16 Dec 11
"... Venky's call the shots. They have appointed Steve Kean to run the team - and apparently - at least on the face of it - still think he is the best man for the job -"Brilliant" quotes etc., and the recent pay rise. They have managed to dismantle the management infrastructure at the club without replacing it with a full professional team running the operation..."
Rover Pete wrote...
"...Venky's from the first day set about a policy that was a disgrace to football. They sacked Sam and got rid of Williams without the slightest help from anyone and without the slightest reason being given that made sense. They promoted a man to the Managers job that it was obvious from day one was out of his depth.
Steve, Pete -- VENKY'S are in the grip of ANDERSON. He got rid of Sam and manoeuvred Kean into his place - and he talked Venky's into dismissing John Williams. Football wise, Venky's did not have a clue why those decisions were made. Who else could do it? Certainly not Venky's themselves.
They were made so that Anderson did not have those two obstructions in his way. He dictates who is bought and who is sold.
Why is it that there is no-one with power or authority at Ewood? Because Anderson has told Mr Desai it is not necessary? The regime at Ewood are just office staff with no authority. Anyone can be given a title of director. Anderson is running the club and Venky’s are just the dummy on his knee.
And why was that financial statement made the other day ‘on behalf of Karen Silk’, the finance director? Was she told, or even aware, that it was being made? Surely, it should have been made by Venky’s?
Why did Mrs Desai not come back to Ian Battersby when she was so impressed with his ‘blueprint’ for the club at their meeting in India and asked if he would be prepared to come on board and meet again in 15 days? Was she blocked by Anderson?
Nothing will happen until Venky’s get themselves out of the contract with adviser Anderson, but I guess that won’t happen because that contract will be watertight. And even if they did, what would they do then? They have no idea about running a football club, so would not know where to start.
Kean smugly says he is safe and never felt safer. Because Anderson won’t give authorisation to sack him – Kean is his client!
Do you not think that if Mrs Desai and the ‘management team’ at Ewood had any authority that they would have stuck with Kean as long as this?
They can’t do anything, say anything until they get guidance from Anderson.
roverfor60years
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11:40am Fri 16 Dec 11
The ceo would give Venky's all the advice they need - good and contructive advice - and Anderson would be surplus to requirements.
mgh567
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1:54pm Fri 16 Dec 11
SimonGarner
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10:42pm Fri 16 Dec 11
SimonGarner
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10:43pm Fri 16 Dec 11
Elysiumfire
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2:32pm Sat 24 Dec 11
Yet, at the same time, it is the fans that carry the torch of ambition for their club. Managers and players come and go, even owners, but mostly the fans remain the same, they grow up and grow old in and around the club. When they turn against the people running the club they support, a very meaningful part of that ambition can be destroyed, and what is being witnessed at Rovers is a slide towards implosion.
I don't expect many of the fans to take this to heart, but the Clarets have been there and done that with John Bond.
You're still in the Premier League, and the stats are very close. I believe if the fans rallied around Kean, regardless of what they think of him, if they got behind the players, give them the encouragement they need through genuine vocal support, they will come true for you.
This season is now all about survival. You only need three or four contiguous games won to achieve that. Instead of looking at the opposition and thinking that's another 3 points lost, look at it as one out of three results you can achieve: a loss, a draw, or a win...the latter two being what you should be aiming for.
Yes, the responsibility on achieving the points rests entirely on the manager and the players, but if you attack them whilst they are trying to achieve them, what response can you expect from them?
The ability is there, and as fans you should encourage, do all your protesting at the end of the season, when, come what may.
Elysiumfire
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2:33pm Sat 24 Dec 11
Yet, at the same time, it is the fans that carry the torch of ambition for their club. Managers and players come and go, even owners, but mostly the fans remain the same, they grow up and grow old in and around the club. When they turn against the people running the club they support, a very meaningful part of that ambition can be destroyed, and what is being witnessed at Rovers is a slide towards implosion.
I don't expect many of the fans to take this to heart, but the Clarets have been there and done that with John Bond.
You're still in the Premier League, and the stats are very close. I believe if the fans rallied around Kean, regardless of what they think of him, if they got behind the players, give them the encouragement they need through genuine vocal support, they will come true for you.
This season is now all about survival. You only need three or four contiguous games won to achieve that. Instead of looking at the opposition and thinking that's another 3 points lost, look at it as one out of three results you can achieve: a loss, a draw, or a win...the latter two being what you should be aiming for.
Yes, the responsibility on achieving the points rests entirely on the manager and the players, but if you attack them whilst they are trying to achieve them, what response can you expect from them?
The ability is there, and as fans you should encourage, do all your protesting at the end of the season, when, come what may.
hugofakenham
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5:10pm Sat 24 Dec 11
if you do a 360deg turn don't you end up back where you started ?
Not what I'd have thought you wanted !
Bungle97
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5:25pm Fri 30 Dec 11
Dave139
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6:27pm Wed 11 Jan 12
Hughes gone to QPR
WE ARE ALL DOOOOOMED !!!!!!
canadianrover
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7:26pm Thu 12 Jan 12
click2find
hawaii 5-0 says...
1:03pm Thu 15 Dec 11