Blackburn Rovers blog: Bad atmosphere killed Swansea City win

HOW good does it feel to get three points? It’s something I have not been accustomed to in recent weeks, but it certainly boosted my weekend.

It’s about time things went our way, and long may it continue.

One thing is certain, however. It will take a heck of a lot more for the fans to accept Steve Kean as manager.

To be fair, he has a point when he questions the protests. Having won, quite emphatically, we should have just gone on our merry way and enjoyed a successful Saturday.

And it is clear that, for all his failings, Kean has one major achievement, and that was bringing in Yakubu – a real goal machine. Everton fans, and David Moyes, must be sick.

But the win, which lifted us off the bottom of the league but still leaves us looking precarious, just papers over a few cracks.

The manager may have been surprised to be booed after ‘guiding’ his team to the victory, but realistically we have to beat Swansea at home. Anything less would not be acceptable.

I’m not going to condone booing during the game when we are winning. But that’s just me. I’ve criticised just about everyone at this football club in recent weeks, and I’ve taken my fair share of stick for it. But I stand by my opinions, and my right to hold them.

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I may disagree with the booing, but I do understand it.

There’s still a long way to go before we are safe, and many fans, myself included, would question whether, with Kean in charge, we will keep picking up enough points.

The fact of the matter is that the atmosphere at the club right now is horrible. The fans are not happy. And it’s the fans that matter. Without fans, there’s no club. Simple.

I am certain that a new manager would have a huge impact, both on the pitch and off it.

The club needs a lift. The sort of lift that came from Sam Allardyce’s appointment as successor to Paul Ince.

That 3-0 win against Stoke provided such relief for the fans who had watched the Rovers slide into the mire.

We have been a laughing stock, but there is apparent nationwide sympathy towards us as supporters.

Nobody likes to see proud football clubs being systematically destroyed by new owners. But that is what is happening at Ewood.

Comments (48)

10:20am Tue 6 Dec 11

PaulRK says...

Who is this moron?
Who is this moron? PaulRK

10:31am Tue 6 Dec 11

NickH1982 says...

Some sense spoken
Some sense spoken NickH1982

11:03am Tue 6 Dec 11

Rover Pete says...

One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve. Rover Pete

11:09am Tue 6 Dec 11

downinthedumps says...

Venky's remain the big problem and it is them who should be targetted - the rest will follow form there.
Venky's remain the big problem and it is them who should be targetted - the rest will follow form there. downinthedumps

11:14am Tue 6 Dec 11

mr smooth says...

the only way to get fans to group back together is pretty bloody simple, change the coach and replace with an experienced MANAGER,it really is that easy Venky's.Nobody has stayed in the Premier League on the cheap,ever.rtid
the only way to get fans to group back together is pretty bloody simple, change the coach and replace with an experienced MANAGER,it really is that easy Venky's.Nobody has stayed in the Premier League on the cheap,ever.rtid mr smooth

11:16am Tue 6 Dec 11

J.C - Rishton says...

downinthedumps wrote:
Venky's remain the big problem and it is them who should be targetted - the rest will follow form there.
spot on - the campain should focus on Venkys - the longer they stay the more dire our situation will be.
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Just think - our "footballing decisions" are ultemately made by a middle aged woman, living 6000 miles away in a "non footballing country", who by her own admision dosent like football, knows NOTHING about it and has (reluctantly) watched 1 live game in her entire life - you couldnt make it up !!!!
[quote][p][bold]downinthedumps[/bold] wrote: Venky's remain the big problem and it is them who should be targetted - the rest will follow form there.[/p][/quote]spot on - the campain should focus on Venkys - the longer they stay the more dire our situation will be. . Just think - our "footballing decisions" are ultemately made by a middle aged woman, living 6000 miles away in a "non footballing country", who by her own admision dosent like football, knows NOTHING about it and has (reluctantly) watched 1 live game in her entire life - you couldnt make it up !!!! J.C - Rishton

11:21am Tue 6 Dec 11

matt00 says...

“Having won, quite emphatically, we should have just gone on our merry way and enjoyed a successful Saturday.”

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Don’t be silly Dan this is your typical fickle fan reaction. If fans left everyone would have said these fans are so fickle one win at home vs. a promoted side and they are all happy. Protesting emphasises the fact we will not be won round by one win and are still far from happy. Statistically we will win every now and again but LONG TERM Kean WILL take us down.

One swallow does not make a summer. Well not for everyone.

The atmos isn’t pleasant at the moment but that can all be changed with one phone call from the Venkys saying “Steve clear out your desk we are going to see how things go with an actual manager”
“Having won, quite emphatically, we should have just gone on our merry way and enjoyed a successful Saturday.” No no no no no no no no no no no no no no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Don’t be silly Dan this is your typical fickle fan reaction. If fans left everyone would have said these fans are so fickle one win at home vs. a promoted side and they are all happy. Protesting emphasises the fact we will not be won round by one win and are still far from happy. Statistically we will win every now and again but LONG TERM Kean WILL take us down. One swallow does not make a summer. Well not for everyone. The atmos isn’t pleasant at the moment but that can all be changed with one phone call from the Venkys saying “Steve clear out your desk we are going to see how things go with an actual manager” matt00

11:22am Tue 6 Dec 11

RobbyRover says...

But we won Dan. Surely these people who blamed the protesters for the defeats by Tottingham and Chelsea by saying it affected the players should now be saying it's a good thing? Or does it only affect them when we lose so wave an excuse - after all the fact we've ont 10 points from 14 games can't be the players of manager's fault!!

I'm getting sick of people blaming the fans. We're down there because we haven't got enough points and we've conceeded too many goals. Fact. As 5 Live said at the Cardiff game, we don't look fit enough. We're disorganised at the back. It's not good enough and it's the same issues game after game and our 'brilliant' 'manager' doesn't have the ability to correct it. No clean sheet since April speaks louder than any protester can, sadly the people in power don't want to listen.

Blame the fans. We really are scraping the excuses barrel.
But we won Dan. Surely these people who blamed the protesters for the defeats by Tottingham and Chelsea by saying it affected the players should now be saying it's a good thing? Or does it only affect them when we lose so wave an excuse - after all the fact we've ont 10 points from 14 games can't be the players of manager's fault!! I'm getting sick of people blaming the fans. We're down there because we haven't got enough points and we've conceeded too many goals. Fact. As 5 Live said at the Cardiff game, we don't look fit enough. We're disorganised at the back. It's not good enough and it's the same issues game after game and our 'brilliant' 'manager' doesn't have the ability to correct it. No clean sheet since April speaks louder than any protester can, sadly the people in power don't want to listen. Blame the fans. We really are scraping the excuses barrel. RobbyRover

12:06pm Tue 6 Dec 11

OnePostThenTheOther says...

I would say that the atmosphere on Saturday was no worse than it has been for the last 12 months. The only contrast was that we actually won a league game for once. That's a miserable toal of 2 wins for the season and a sickening 5 home wins for the whole of 2011.

One has to question the mental fortitude of someone who can't understand why fans find him so abhorrent that they boo his image whenever it appears on the Jumbotron.

Just an observtion, don't celebrate like you've won the FA Cup after going 1 up at home against the weakest away side in the league after they have dominated possession for the first20 minutes. It just reinforces the peception of you as a complete dick when the opposition continue to dominate possession and equalise 15 minutes later.
I would say that the atmosphere on Saturday was no worse than it has been for the last 12 months. The only contrast was that we actually won a league game for once. That's a miserable toal of 2 wins for the season and a sickening 5 home wins for the whole of 2011. One has to question the mental fortitude of someone who can't understand why fans find him so abhorrent that they boo his image whenever it appears on the Jumbotron. Just an observtion, don't celebrate like you've won the FA Cup after going 1 up at home against the weakest away side in the league after they have dominated possession for the first20 minutes. It just reinforces the peception of you as a complete dick when the opposition continue to dominate possession and equalise 15 minutes later. OnePostThenTheOther

12:18pm Tue 6 Dec 11

kevh69 says...

Great atmosphere when we stood up singing "stand up if you kean out", more people singing together at ewood than i have seen for a while (apart from when we score).
Great atmosphere when we stood up singing "stand up if you kean out", more people singing together at ewood than i have seen for a while (apart from when we score). kevh69

12:23pm Tue 6 Dec 11

kevh69 says...

Great atmosphere when we stood up singing "stand up if you want kean out", more people singing together at ewood than i have seen for a while (apart from when we score).”
Ooops
Great atmosphere when we stood up singing "stand up if you want kean out", more people singing together at ewood than i have seen for a while (apart from when we score).” Ooops kevh69

12:24pm Tue 6 Dec 11

ossyrover1 says...

title miss print,,,, should read bad manager killed swansea city win.
title miss print,,,, should read bad manager killed swansea city win. ossyrover1

12:53pm Tue 6 Dec 11

owd nick says...

Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
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The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
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And this is what it is coming to.
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We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
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We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
[quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy. owd nick

12:55pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

PaulRK wrote:
Who is this moron?
Lets be fair hes no Peter White!
[quote][p][bold]PaulRK[/bold] wrote: Who is this moron?[/p][/quote]Lets be fair hes no Peter White! makaveli96

1:21pm Tue 6 Dec 11

matt00 says...

owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go matt00

1:22pm Tue 6 Dec 11

samblue says...

Well said Owd Nick.
Before the game the Rovers fans were getting a reasonable amount of sympathy from the rest of the football world for their protests, but that evaporated as soon as the clowns started booing when we took the lead.
Okay, they've said the booing was aimed at Steve Kean for (God forbid) celebrating the fact we'd scored first and for 'high-fives' with the Yak, but to any outsider it must have appeared they were booing the goal itself, or even Yak.
That decision has probably done more harm to their cause than anything else.
I said several months ago that no matter how much fans protest about Kean it will have no bearing on Venkys' thinking. They're more likely to dig their heels in the (Indian) sand and say 'Stuff 'em'.
In my view, the only way Venkys will relieve Kean of his duties is if poor results continue, but by then it'll probably be too late.
Well said Owd Nick. Before the game the Rovers fans were getting a reasonable amount of sympathy from the rest of the football world for their protests, but that evaporated as soon as the clowns started booing when we took the lead. Okay, they've said the booing was aimed at Steve Kean for (God forbid) celebrating the fact we'd scored first and for 'high-fives' with the Yak, but to any outsider it must have appeared they were booing the goal itself, or even Yak. That decision has probably done more harm to their cause than anything else. I said several months ago that no matter how much fans protest about Kean it will have no bearing on Venkys' thinking. They're more likely to dig their heels in the (Indian) sand and say 'Stuff 'em'. In my view, the only way Venkys will relieve Kean of his duties is if poor results continue, but by then it'll probably be too late. samblue

1:51pm Tue 6 Dec 11

hasslem hasslem says...

makaveli96 wrote:
PaulRK wrote:
Who is this moron?
Lets be fair hes no Peter White!
think you will find that it was dan clough writing his "25 questions that we need answers from venkys" in 4,000 holes before the end of last season that was ahead of the game from the likes of many who comment on here.
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulRK[/bold] wrote: Who is this moron?[/p][/quote]Lets be fair hes no Peter White![/p][/quote]think you will find that it was dan clough writing his "25 questions that we need answers from venkys" in 4,000 holes before the end of last season that was ahead of the game from the likes of many who comment on here. hasslem hasslem

2:15pm Tue 6 Dec 11

noddymcleod says...

Now the national press has joined in with a line of what bad fans we have after booing a goal and there's some sympathy among the mediocre tame pundits and managers for "one-of-us" Steve doing his best, deserving a chance etc.
The simple truth is the lack of sympathy is entirely due to Kean who firstly jumped at the chance to replace a manager who whilst not playing sparkling footie was delivering, and how deeply Kean was implicated in the plot to oust Sam remains a suspicion.
Kean has since then alienated many fans by his non-stop delusional blatherings about Top Ten, Europe, entertaining football. He has never said something concilatory, like " I can understand the fans disappointment" but says ludicrous immature things like "I see no aeroplane"
The fans would respect Kean if he just kept his mouth shut and let the results do the talking.
Despite the win which I thoroughly welcomed and cheered, we won against a team with a poor away record and we played hoof ball and not the flowing footie promised by Kean and given as an excuse for getting rid of Sam.
Rovers are on course for relegation and I shall continue cheering every goal and win and even draw under the cisrcumstances - but don't ask me to give Kean a "chance"
Now the national press has joined in with a line of what bad fans we have after booing a goal and there's some sympathy among the mediocre tame pundits and managers for "one-of-us" Steve doing his best, deserving a chance etc. The simple truth is the lack of sympathy is entirely due to Kean who firstly jumped at the chance to replace a manager who whilst not playing sparkling footie was delivering, and how deeply Kean was implicated in the plot to oust Sam remains a suspicion. Kean has since then alienated many fans by his non-stop delusional blatherings about Top Ten, Europe, entertaining football. He has never said something concilatory, like " I can understand the fans disappointment" but says ludicrous immature things like "I see no aeroplane" The fans would respect Kean if he just kept his mouth shut and let the results do the talking. Despite the win which I thoroughly welcomed and cheered, we won against a team with a poor away record and we played hoof ball and not the flowing footie promised by Kean and given as an excuse for getting rid of Sam. Rovers are on course for relegation and I shall continue cheering every goal and win and even draw under the cisrcumstances - but don't ask me to give Kean a "chance" noddymcleod

2:35pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
PaulRK wrote: Who is this moron?
Lets be fair hes no Peter White!
think you will find that it was dan clough writing his "25 questions that we need answers from venkys" in 4,000 holes before the end of last season that was ahead of the game from the likes of many who comment on here.
But can he really be compared to the greats of the Citizen era - Harold, Gregg, Steve Tinniswood etc...
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulRK[/bold] wrote: Who is this moron?[/p][/quote]Lets be fair hes no Peter White![/p][/quote]think you will find that it was dan clough writing his "25 questions that we need answers from venkys" in 4,000 holes before the end of last season that was ahead of the game from the likes of many who comment on here.[/p][/quote]But can he really be compared to the greats of the Citizen era - Harold, Gregg, Steve Tinniswood etc... makaveli96

2:58pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

How many policemen does it take to screw a lightbulb in?None. It turned itself in.
How many policemen does it take to screw a lightbulb in?None. It turned itself in. makaveli96

3:00pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

What do you get when you have three people with Leprosy sitting in a hot tub?Stew
What do you get when you have three people with Leprosy sitting in a hot tub?Stew makaveli96

3:01pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

Olympic organisers say it is hard to pick an individual man or woman to light the Olympic flame so they've compromised on Fatima Whitbread.
Olympic organisers say it is hard to pick an individual man or woman to light the Olympic flame so they've compromised on Fatima Whitbread. makaveli96

3:03pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach his wife to fish and he can spend several hours on the sofa watching Sky Sports.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach his wife to fish and he can spend several hours on the sofa watching Sky Sports. makaveli96

3:05pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

Sean Connery returns home to find all of his electrical equipment gone and his car replced with a horse and trap."Shomething is Amish here", he thought.
Sean Connery returns home to find all of his electrical equipment gone and his car replced with a horse and trap."Shomething is Amish here", he thought. makaveli96

3:07pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

This new Magner's is as good as drugs....There's Methadone in the Magner's.
This new Magner's is as good as drugs....There's Methadone in the Magner's. makaveli96

3:08pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

I was outbid 10p for a settee on ebay. So close, yet sofa.
I was outbid 10p for a settee on ebay. So close, yet sofa. makaveli96

3:09pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

I keep imagining I'm holding an invisible pack of cards.No one knows what I'm dealing with.
I keep imagining I'm holding an invisible pack of cards.No one knows what I'm dealing with. makaveli96

3:10pm Tue 6 Dec 11

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

Not far from my thoughts Dan.
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Keeping Kean puts us at great risk of relegation whilst bringing in a new man would untie everyone and give the place a lift.
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We have to be honest - the "Kean Out" chant was sung by a lot of fans on Saturday - enough to know unless Kean wins 6 on the bounce (no chance!) the bad atmosphere will damage our club.
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That is why the Venkys have only one realistic solution - a new manager.
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33rd.....
Not far from my thoughts Dan. . Keeping Kean puts us at great risk of relegation whilst bringing in a new man would untie everyone and give the place a lift. . We have to be honest - the "Kean Out" chant was sung by a lot of fans on Saturday - enough to know unless Kean wins 6 on the bounce (no chance!) the bad atmosphere will damage our club. . That is why the Venkys have only one realistic solution - a new manager. . 33rd..... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!

3:11pm Tue 6 Dec 11

makaveli96 says...

Man Utd fans are facing the prospect of a long journey up the M6 after they were handed an FA Cup third round tie against Manchester City.
Man Utd fans are facing the prospect of a long journey up the M6 after they were handed an FA Cup third round tie against Manchester City. makaveli96

3:38pm Tue 6 Dec 11

RoversLoyal says...

matt00 wrote:
“Having won, quite emphatically, we should have just gone on our merry way and enjoyed a successful Saturday.”

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Don’t be silly Dan this is your typical fickle fan reaction. If fans left everyone would have said these fans are so fickle one win at home vs. a promoted side and they are all happy. Protesting emphasises the fact we will not be won round by one win and are still far from happy. Statistically we will win every now and again but LONG TERM Kean WILL take us down.

One swallow does not make a summer. Well not for everyone.

The atmos isn’t pleasant at the moment but that can all be changed with one phone call from the Venkys saying “Steve clear out your desk we are going to see how things go with an actual manager”
Well said. the fickle fans are the happy-clappy evangelical's that came crawling out from under their rocks (like Clough) as soon as Rovers get 3 points (after conceding yet again 2 goals at home) - the protesters that continue to protest despite a lucky win are showing consitency.

I wanted Rovers to lose - if they had losit 'm covinced Kean would have been sacked. Yet again, he scrapes a victory and hangs on to his job.

Roberts is Kean's lickspittle; the Venkies are useless and this very tiny minority of happy-clappers along with Kean, the Venky's and Roberts are going to take this club into a spiral of decline that it might take DECADES to recover from.
[quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: “Having won, quite emphatically, we should have just gone on our merry way and enjoyed a successful Saturday.” No no no no no no no no no no no no no no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Don’t be silly Dan this is your typical fickle fan reaction. If fans left everyone would have said these fans are so fickle one win at home vs. a promoted side and they are all happy. Protesting emphasises the fact we will not be won round by one win and are still far from happy. Statistically we will win every now and again but LONG TERM Kean WILL take us down. One swallow does not make a summer. Well not for everyone. The atmos isn’t pleasant at the moment but that can all be changed with one phone call from the Venkys saying “Steve clear out your desk we are going to see how things go with an actual manager”[/p][/quote]Well said. the fickle fans are the happy-clappy evangelical's that came crawling out from under their rocks (like Clough) as soon as Rovers get 3 points (after conceding yet again 2 goals at home) - the protesters that continue to protest despite a lucky win are showing consitency. I wanted Rovers to lose - if they had losit 'm covinced Kean would have been sacked. Yet again, he scrapes a victory and hangs on to his job. Roberts is Kean's lickspittle; the Venkies are useless and this very tiny minority of happy-clappers along with Kean, the Venky's and Roberts are going to take this club into a spiral of decline that it might take DECADES to recover from. RoversLoyal

3:47pm Tue 6 Dec 11

RoversLoyal says...

noddymcleod wrote:
Now the national press has joined in with a line of what bad fans we have after booing a goal and there's some sympathy among the mediocre tame pundits and managers for "one-of-us" Steve doing his best, deserving a chance etc.
The simple truth is the lack of sympathy is entirely due to Kean who firstly jumped at the chance to replace a manager who whilst not playing sparkling footie was delivering, and how deeply Kean was implicated in the plot to oust Sam remains a suspicion.
Kean has since then alienated many fans by his non-stop delusional blatherings about Top Ten, Europe, entertaining football. He has never said something concilatory, like " I can understand the fans disappointment" but says ludicrous immature things like "I see no aeroplane"
The fans would respect Kean if he just kept his mouth shut and let the results do the talking.
Despite the win which I thoroughly welcomed and cheered, we won against a team with a poor away record and we played hoof ball and not the flowing footie promised by Kean and given as an excuse for getting rid of Sam.
Rovers are on course for relegation and I shall continue cheering every goal and win and even draw under the cisrcumstances - but don't ask me to give Kean a "chance"
I found myself in the position of wanting Ropvers to lose on Saturday. That is how much this despicable Jock Kean and the hapless Venky's along with their lickpsittle Roberts are hated by me.

Short term pain for long term gain. I am convinced that if Rovers had lost on Saturday, Kean would have been sacked and it would be great to have Hughes back at BRFC - whilst he is still available.

I am not 100% for the players - Roberts is a despicable opportunist and most footballers are multi-millionaire parasites; i am not 100% Kean nor am i 100% Venky's - i am 100% Blackburn Rovers Football Club - and if losing our next couple of games means Kean will be out and even possibly hasten the exit of the clueless clowns the Venky's, then i will take those losses for longer term gains.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Now the national press has joined in with a line of what bad fans we have after booing a goal and there's some sympathy among the mediocre tame pundits and managers for "one-of-us" Steve doing his best, deserving a chance etc. The simple truth is the lack of sympathy is entirely due to Kean who firstly jumped at the chance to replace a manager who whilst not playing sparkling footie was delivering, and how deeply Kean was implicated in the plot to oust Sam remains a suspicion. Kean has since then alienated many fans by his non-stop delusional blatherings about Top Ten, Europe, entertaining football. He has never said something concilatory, like " I can understand the fans disappointment" but says ludicrous immature things like "I see no aeroplane" The fans would respect Kean if he just kept his mouth shut and let the results do the talking. Despite the win which I thoroughly welcomed and cheered, we won against a team with a poor away record and we played hoof ball and not the flowing footie promised by Kean and given as an excuse for getting rid of Sam. Rovers are on course for relegation and I shall continue cheering every goal and win and even draw under the cisrcumstances - but don't ask me to give Kean a "chance"[/p][/quote]I found myself in the position of wanting Ropvers to lose on Saturday. That is how much this despicable Jock Kean and the hapless Venky's along with their lickpsittle Roberts are hated by me. Short term pain for long term gain. I am convinced that if Rovers had lost on Saturday, Kean would have been sacked and it would be great to have Hughes back at BRFC - whilst he is still available. I am not 100% for the players - Roberts is a despicable opportunist and most footballers are multi-millionaire parasites; i am not 100% Kean nor am i 100% Venky's - i am 100% Blackburn Rovers Football Club - and if losing our next couple of games means Kean will be out and even possibly hasten the exit of the clueless clowns the Venky's, then i will take those losses for longer term gains. RoversLoyal

3:51pm Tue 6 Dec 11

RoversLoyal says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
PaulRK wrote:
Who is this moron?
Lets be fair hes no Peter White!
think you will find that it was dan clough writing his "25 questions that we need answers from venkys" in 4,000 holes before the end of last season that was ahead of the game from the likes of many who comment on here.
Dan Clough is a priiiiiiick.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulRK[/bold] wrote: Who is this moron?[/p][/quote]Lets be fair hes no Peter White![/p][/quote]think you will find that it was dan clough writing his "25 questions that we need answers from venkys" in 4,000 holes before the end of last season that was ahead of the game from the likes of many who comment on here.[/p][/quote]Dan Clough is a priiiiiiick. RoversLoyal

3:57pm Tue 6 Dec 11

RoversLoyal says...

kevh69 wrote:
Great atmosphere when we stood up singing "stand up if you want kean out", more people singing together at ewood than i have seen for a while (apart from when we score).”
Ooops
Well said... the vast majority of fans want these sheisters, pirates and bandits out of our club.

It is only a very tiny minority that feel otherwise.

...and let's stop giving a **** what the national media presstitutes think - they are whores - we are not.
[quote][p][bold]kevh69[/bold] wrote: Great atmosphere when we stood up singing "stand up if you want kean out", more people singing together at ewood than i have seen for a while (apart from when we score).” Ooops[/p][/quote]Well said... the vast majority of fans want these sheisters, pirates and bandits out of our club. It is only a very tiny minority that feel otherwise. ...and let's stop giving a **** what the national media presstitutes think - they are whores - we are not. RoversLoyal

4:25pm Tue 6 Dec 11

Rod of the Rovers says...

Well said. Kean Out!!!
One win against 10 man Swansea does not paper over the cracks. We have an idiot in charge who embarrasses the club and its fans every time he opens his mouth. The only people from outside the club who are questioning the fans protests are either part of the football old boys network or Burnley fans...
Well said. Kean Out!!! One win against 10 man Swansea does not paper over the cracks. We have an idiot in charge who embarrasses the club and its fans every time he opens his mouth. The only people from outside the club who are questioning the fans protests are either part of the football old boys network or Burnley fans... Rod of the Rovers

4:42pm Tue 6 Dec 11

stick to football says...

Have Venkys replied to Andy Cryers letter?

I think not - that says everything about what is wrong at Ewood Park and whilst Kean will never get the majority of supporters on his side - everyone knows it is Venkys that is the major problem. They should switch to Ostrich farming - because theey are experts at sticking their hand in the sand - hear nothing see nothing and certainly do nothing. We have been shafted.
I in 60 years ot watching football never experienced anything like what is happening at Ewood - I dont like it but do not blame the fans they are merely reacting to a situation over which they have no influence.

It will end in tears - whose? I hope not the fans
Have Venkys replied to Andy Cryers letter? I think not - that says everything about what is wrong at Ewood Park and whilst Kean will never get the majority of supporters on his side - everyone knows it is Venkys that is the major problem. They should switch to Ostrich farming - because theey are experts at sticking their hand in the sand - hear nothing see nothing and certainly do nothing. We have been shafted. I in 60 years ot watching football never experienced anything like what is happening at Ewood - I dont like it but do not blame the fans they are merely reacting to a situation over which they have no influence. It will end in tears - whose? I hope not the fans stick to football

6:23pm Tue 6 Dec 11

SteveinNYC says...

As I have said before, Even a blind squirrel finds a NUT sometimes... And that is what Kean resembles
As I have said before, Even a blind squirrel finds a NUT sometimes... And that is what Kean resembles SteveinNYC

9:40pm Tue 6 Dec 11

roverinmanchstr says...

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
Not far from my thoughts Dan. . Keeping Kean puts us at great risk of relegation whilst bringing in a new man would untie everyone and give the place a lift. . We have to be honest - the "Kean Out" chant was sung by a lot of fans on Saturday - enough to know unless Kean wins 6 on the bounce (no chance!) the bad atmosphere will damage our club. . That is why the Venkys have only one realistic solution - a new manager. . 33rd.....
Venky's have one Realistic solution and that is for them to get out and leave............The
re's no chance of getting a 'reliable Premiership manager touching Rovers while they ( VENKY'S)are screwing the club...
[quote][p][bold]Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles![/bold] wrote: Not far from my thoughts Dan. . Keeping Kean puts us at great risk of relegation whilst bringing in a new man would untie everyone and give the place a lift. . We have to be honest - the "Kean Out" chant was sung by a lot of fans on Saturday - enough to know unless Kean wins 6 on the bounce (no chance!) the bad atmosphere will damage our club. . That is why the Venkys have only one realistic solution - a new manager. . 33rd.....[/p][/quote]Venky's have one Realistic solution and that is for them to get out and leave............The re's no chance of getting a 'reliable Premiership manager touching Rovers while they ( VENKY'S)are screwing the club... roverinmanchstr

11:17pm Tue 6 Dec 11

owd nick says...

matt00 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things.
.
His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing.
.
For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing.
.
The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire.
.
And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's?
.
I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa.
.
Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden.
.
I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time.
.
I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target.
.
Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?
[quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go[/p][/quote]I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things. . His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing. . For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing. . The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire. . And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's? . I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa. . Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden. . I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time. . I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target. . Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing? owd nick

4:12am Wed 7 Dec 11

Roverthere says...

Kean must go, he has lost the fans with is daft statements and actions. Whatever our final league position Kean must go.
Kean must go, he has lost the fans with is daft statements and actions. Whatever our final league position Kean must go. Roverthere

11:06am Wed 7 Dec 11

bypass06 says...

owd nick wrote:
matt00 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things.
.
His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing.
.
For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing.
.
The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire.
.
And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's?
.
I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa.
.
Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden.
.
I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time.
.
I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target.
.
Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?
It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go[/p][/quote]I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things. . His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing. . For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing. . The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire. . And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's? . I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa. . Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden. . I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time. . I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target. . Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?[/p][/quote]It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets. bypass06

11:31pm Wed 7 Dec 11

owd nick says...

bypass06 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
matt00 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things.
.
His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing.
.
For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing.
.
The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire.
.
And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's?
.
I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa.
.
Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden.
.
I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time.
.
I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target.
.
Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?
It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.
A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point.
.
Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season.
.
But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.
[quote][p][bold]bypass06[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go[/p][/quote]I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things. . His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing. . For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing. . The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire. . And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's? . I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa. . Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden. . I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time. . I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target. . Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?[/p][/quote]It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.[/p][/quote]A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point. . Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season. . But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans. owd nick

2:49am Thu 8 Dec 11

Burnley59/60 says...

owd nick wrote:
bypass06 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
matt00 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things.
.
His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing.
.
For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing.
.
The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire.
.
And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's?
.
I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa.
.
Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden.
.
I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time.
.
I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target.
.
Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?
It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.
A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point.
.
Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season.
.
But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.
Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bypass06[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go[/p][/quote]I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things. . His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing. . For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing. . The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire. . And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's? . I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa. . Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden. . I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time. . I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target. . Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?[/p][/quote]It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.[/p][/quote]A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point. . Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season. . But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.[/p][/quote]Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG Burnley59/60

2:25pm Thu 8 Dec 11

Livesey rover says...

In 2 or 3 years when we are in the champions league and challenging city for the title we will look back and laugh at all this 'so called' bother.
In 2 or 3 years when we are in the champions league and challenging city for the title we will look back and laugh at all this 'so called' bother. Livesey rover

3:33pm Thu 8 Dec 11

lancs1985 says...

jesus wet, another happy clapper whats happy to put up with the sham bollick way club is being run,
The club doesnt give a monkeys about fans anymore, simple as that, if they did they would come out and make a statement,
these protests will never ened to the club do what we want to hear and no about the scummy venky and the idiot in blackburn gets the boot, cause 1 win simple aint good enough 4 wins in 35 games aint good enough,
enough is enough,
and id love to see all these moaners what winj about booing and protests cope with being a gordie, jesus wet best thing is to stop at home and listen to paul merson slate us or radio lancs,
Its time people relised the club is screwed big time, we need answers,
we are the next pompey and if your all there happy to put up with it then your a joke and wouldnt call your self a supporter of the club, if your happy to watch it go down and down, sad sad people, fight for your club, be proud to aswell!!!
if you went out for a meal and it was rubbish im sure you would tell the resturant or pub that it was rubbish thats all whats happening at ewood!!!

Venky stick to india selling chicken even those sales are down by 35% Ha ha
jesus wet, another happy clapper whats happy to put up with the sham bollick way club is being run, The club doesnt give a monkeys about fans anymore, simple as that, if they did they would come out and make a statement, these protests will never ened to the club do what we want to hear and no about the scummy venky and the idiot in blackburn gets the boot, cause 1 win simple aint good enough 4 wins in 35 games aint good enough, enough is enough, and id love to see all these moaners what winj about booing and protests cope with being a gordie, jesus wet best thing is to stop at home and listen to paul merson slate us or radio lancs, Its time people relised the club is screwed big time, we need answers, we are the next pompey and if your all there happy to put up with it then your a joke and wouldnt call your self a supporter of the club, if your happy to watch it go down and down, sad sad people, fight for your club, be proud to aswell!!! if you went out for a meal and it was rubbish im sure you would tell the resturant or pub that it was rubbish thats all whats happening at ewood!!! Venky stick to india selling chicken even those sales are down by 35% Ha ha lancs1985

8:40pm Thu 8 Dec 11

ChrisSutton says...

Burnley59/60 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
bypass06 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
matt00 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things.
.
His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing.
.
For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing.
.
The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire.
.
And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's?
.
I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa.
.
Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden.
.
I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time.
.
I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target.
.
Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?
It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.
A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point.
.
Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season.
.
But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.
Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG
Get your facts right sir. We didn't boo our team, we booed KEAN.

With us that day on bottom of the league, and Stevie boy just been given a new improved contract after a terrible run of results... it's no wonder fans expressed their disgust either.
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]Burnley59/60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bypass06[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go[/p][/quote]I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things. . His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing. . For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing. . The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire. . And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's? . I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa. . Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden. . I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time. . I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target. . Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?[/p][/quote]It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.[/p][/quote]A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point. . Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season. . But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.[/p][/quote]Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG[/p][/quote]Get your facts right sir. We didn't boo our team, we booed KEAN. With us that day on bottom of the league, and Stevie boy just been given a new improved contract after a terrible run of results... it's no wonder fans expressed their disgust either. -D.K.O ChrisSutton

9:30pm Thu 8 Dec 11

Burnley59/60 says...

ChrisSutton wrote:
Burnley59/60 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
bypass06 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
matt00 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things.
.
His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing.
.
For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing.
.
The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire.
.
And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's?
.
I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa.
.
Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden.
.
I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time.
.
I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target.
.
Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?
It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.
A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point.
.
Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season.
.
But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.
Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG
Get your facts right sir. We didn't boo our team, we booed KEAN.

With us that day on bottom of the league, and Stevie boy just been given a new improved contract after a terrible run of results... it's no wonder fans expressed their disgust either.
-D.K.O
If Thats The case mate accepted but do you agree with me about these foreign asset stripers
[quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Burnley59/60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bypass06[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go[/p][/quote]I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things. . His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing. . For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing. . The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire. . And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's? . I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa. . Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden. . I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time. . I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target. . Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?[/p][/quote]It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.[/p][/quote]A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point. . Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season. . But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.[/p][/quote]Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG[/p][/quote]Get your facts right sir. We didn't boo our team, we booed KEAN. With us that day on bottom of the league, and Stevie boy just been given a new improved contract after a terrible run of results... it's no wonder fans expressed their disgust either. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]If Thats The case mate accepted but do you agree with me about these foreign asset stripers Burnley59/60

12:42am Fri 9 Dec 11

ChrisSutton says...

Burnley59/60 wrote:
ChrisSutton wrote:
Burnley59/60 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
bypass06 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
matt00 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Rover Pete wrote:
One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean?
We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.
Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys.
.
The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate.
.
In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns.
.
And this is what it is coming to.
.
We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing.
.
We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth.
.
And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats.
.
Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am.
.
But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager".
.
There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do.
.
And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that?
.
Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it.
.
Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.
You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking?

I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem?

Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go
I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things.
.
His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing.
.
For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing.
.
The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire.
.
And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's?
.
I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa.
.
Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden.
.
I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time.
.
I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target.
.
Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?
It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.
A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point.
.
Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season.
.
But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.
Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG
Get your facts right sir. We didn't boo our team, we booed KEAN.

With us that day on bottom of the league, and Stevie boy just been given a new improved contract after a terrible run of results... it's no wonder fans expressed their disgust either.
-D.K.O
If Thats The case mate accepted but do you agree with me about these foreign asset stripers
I don't know. For me Venkys disastrous ownership over the past 12 months is either due to genuine naivity or shady dealings.

I did think there was a very real chance they were looking to asset strip us. But what makes me unsure on that is that they rejected the bid from the Quataris. If they wanted to make a nice dirty profit for a years work they could have quite easily sold to them and left with their reputation (mostly) intact. The fact that they didn't, and that they continue with their Indian promotion over there suggests to me they do have some kind of long term interest in Rovers.

I think Venkys are just hopelessly naive and for whatever reason are infatuated with Steve Kean. A personal relationship that they place above our clubs future. They also do not understand football. They may know the game as a distant spectacle but I don't think they know how much our clubs mean to us as fans. How we live for the result from week to week and how much we hurt when our clubs are in trouble.

Props to see a Burnley fan concerned though. As football fans noone wants to see our beloved clubs carelessly bandied about and destroyed as a rich foreigners plaything.
-D.K.O
[quote][p][bold]Burnley59/60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisSutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Burnley59/60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bypass06[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]matt00[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover Pete[/bold] wrote: One win against Swansea was very welcome. But why should we praise Kean? We won against a team who were about as good/bad as us, we should have got something from that game. How many times do we have to tell Kean and the Venky's that he is simple not good enough. His record is absolutely appaling. When he can show us he has any technical ability to change a match. He still persisted with bringing on Roberts, why? when he has the present Scotland striker that he bought sitting on the bench. How can he ever improve.[/p][/quote]Pete, no one is saying we should be praising Kean at all, he makes a rod for his own back with his irritating comments and because of that continually aggravates the situation with the boo boys. . The sad fact of life is that if Rovers won the next 10 games the boo boys would still want Kean out, because they hate him with a vengeance and they are blinded by that hate. . In nearly 40 years of supporting Rovers I have never, ever been as angry with any group of fans than I was on Saturday with our boo boys, in fact were it not for my daughter and two real supporters preventing me I would have brained one of the snotty little clowns. . And this is what it is coming to. . We have so called owners who really don't give any indication as to knowing what they are doing. . We have a "manager" who appears to have the best of intentions but puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. . And worse of all we have fans with differing views who are now at each others throats. . Personally I have nothing against the protesters, I know they care about my club as much as I do and are deeply concerned about the direction it appears to be going, as I am. . But I go to Ewood to watch my team play football, not to watch pointless demonstrations, listen to negative chants, and certainly not to listen to our own players being abused because they support our "manager". . There is a time and place for demonstrations, that is not before or during the game because that gives our opponents a lift, something we cannot afford to do. . And to demonstrate when we are winning, I have to ask where is the sense in that? . Rovers need our support whether Kean remains manager or not, the demonstrators albeit with the best intentions, have created this rift between the supporters, they have to look for ways to repair it. . Otherwise the all pervading negative atmosphere will damage our teams fragile confidence and the protesters will have contributed to their self fulfilling prophecy.[/p][/quote]You do concede that he makes irritating comments and seem to acknowledge our owners are cranks. So can I ask do you think Kean is the right man for the job? Even if you do think he is would you not prefer a better manager? If you don’t think Kean should be the manager then how would you as a fan try and influence his sacking? I personally don’t like any booing but I think its one of very few ways people can vent their anger. It may not be constructive booing but it happened and we won anyway its not like we were doing well before these protests started. If every time Kean gets heckled we win happy days as Kean says himself it doesn‘t affect him or the players so what’s the problem? Also, even if want Kean in do you agree that the atmosphere at club would improve overnight with his removal? I think it has come to the point for the benefit of the club and to unite the fans he has to go[/p][/quote]I have already conceded that Kean makes irritating comments, personally I would provide the duck tape to stop them if it would improve things. . His results record is appalling by any standard you care to mention, but Venky's are not going to sack him because they simply don't have a clue what they are doing. . For some reason none of us understand Kean is capable of getting the players to play, even when half the squad is injured or suspended, there must be something we are missing. . The atmosphere would change at the club if Kean was sacked, but for how long?, Venky's would still be in charge, bumbling along behind the scenes like blind men in a bonfire. . And ask yourself, what experienced PL manager would work for Venky's? . I would bet even Steve MacLaren would tell them to bugger off, actually I would pray he would tell them to bugger off, he makes Kean look like a member of Mensa. . Kean is an unlucky manager to a certain extent, Take Saturdays game against Sunderland for instance, if by some miracle we manage to get something out of that I will start looking for faeries at the bottom of my garden. . I would rather we were playing Man City away than Sunderland at this point in time. . I was initially willing to give Venky's a chance but no longer, that is where the protests should be aimed, AFTER THE GAMES, Kean is just their scapegoat, the easy target. . Venky's have been given every opportunity to sort things out, in reality all they have to do is talk but for some reason they can't, perhaps it's a cultural thing?[/p][/quote]It would be a miracle, if we got something at sunderland on saturday.......we play them Sunday.....keep taking the tablets.[/p][/quote]A minor error, such is life, glad you are paying attention to this post as you have decided not to reply to my comments, re: the protest at the Chelsea match on the Yakubu post, which I think cost us the game, or at least one valuable point. . Thought about that one yet?, the "protest" that you can't even remember taking place?, some "organiser" you are. lol. good job Kean isn't as crap as you we would have been relegated last season. . But thats all you are about isn't it?, scoring cheap points against people who cant fight back, destroying the atmosphere at games, booing your own players, creating friction between our own fans.[/p][/quote]Do you Think our fans would to this to players in The Claret And Blue of Burnley !!!! Not one chance,I agree he needs to go and Venky's are a discrace and I hate as a TRUE FAN OF THE ENGLISH GAME,what they are doing to a founder member,but to boo your own team lads WRONG WRONG WRONG[/p][/quote]Get your facts right sir. We didn't boo our team, we booed KEAN. With us that day on bottom of the league, and Stevie boy just been given a new improved contract after a terrible run of results... it's no wonder fans expressed their disgust either. -D.K.O[/p][/quote]If Thats The case mate accepted but do you agree with me about these foreign asset stripers[/p][/quote]I don't know. For me Venkys disastrous ownership over the past 12 months is either due to genuine naivity or shady dealings. I did think there was a very real chance they were looking to asset strip us. But what makes me unsure on that is that they rejected the bid from the Quataris. If they wanted to make a nice dirty profit for a years work they could have quite easily sold to them and left with their reputation (mostly) intact. The fact that they didn't, and that they continue with their Indian promotion over there suggests to me they do have some kind of long term interest in Rovers. I think Venkys are just hopelessly naive and for whatever reason are infatuated with Steve Kean. A personal relationship that they place above our clubs future. They also do not understand football. They may know the game as a distant spectacle but I don't think they know how much our clubs mean to us as fans. How we live for the result from week to week and how much we hurt when our clubs are in trouble. Props to see a Burnley fan concerned though. As football fans noone wants to see our beloved clubs carelessly bandied about and destroyed as a rich foreigners plaything. -D.K.O ChrisSutton

9:06am Fri 9 Dec 11

owdman says...

I am fed up hearing from the self-important protestors who abuse anyone with a different opinion to theirs. Reading all the posts on this Blog, I was amazed to see one so called fan who wished we had lost against Swansea. Rovers were also criticised for having conceded possession to Swansea. From what I have seen of Swansea, that is their style of play, possession football. Nobody moaned about Chelsea's 30% possession when they won their last European match. Booing when you score and wanting your team to lose, leaves a very nasty taste. Srill what do I know, I guess I am just another moron / retard / someone with dementia / happy clapper, just a few of the insults from our lovely protestors I have received in the last couple of weeks.
I am fed up hearing from the self-important protestors who abuse anyone with a different opinion to theirs. Reading all the posts on this Blog, I was amazed to see one so called fan who wished we had lost against Swansea. Rovers were also criticised for having conceded possession to Swansea. From what I have seen of Swansea, that is their style of play, possession football. Nobody moaned about Chelsea's 30% possession when they won their last European match. Booing when you score and wanting your team to lose, leaves a very nasty taste. Srill what do I know, I guess I am just another moron / retard / someone with dementia / happy clapper, just a few of the insults from our lovely protestors I have received in the last couple of weeks. owdman

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