DAN CLOUGH FAN COLUMN: Kean departure was a false dawn (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Absolutely correct, Dan. Someone HAS to set up that delegation to India – FAST.

We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand.

I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here.

My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then?

It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it.

I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long.

If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone.

John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club and restore the stability we once enjoyed.

That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it.

If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.

Hope shebby does not take action against you DAN.

I agree what your saying but will their listen no chance in hell

VENKYS AND BERG OUT.

You say you aren't a conspiracy theorist - and then spout a load of conspiracies questioning who is in charge. Personally I think it is insulting to Henning to suggest he isn't in charge - if he isn't come out with the proof !

Is any of this true? Goodness knows. But Dan's article does represent the anguish that many fans feel.
What is true that it's foolish to believe a word that comes out of Ewood. The clowns there can only be judged by what they do and so far that's not too good.

On the whole I agree with Dan's comments however, I had no objections the dropping of Robinson or starting with Vukcevic.

In Robinson's case, there are issues with is weight as well as his recent form in goal.
Vukcevic has deserved his chance for quite a while after impressing in a substitute appearance against Birmingham a few weeks ago.

However, I do agree with him that all the rumours coming out of Ewood with regard to new Backroom staff is a major concern.

Who is leaking this information? Is it Shebby?
It is very unprofessional and matters such as this should be all sorted behind closed doors if possible.
If you were Eric Black, Ian Brunskill or Bobby Mimms how would you feel?
Unmotivated at best.

With regard to the first post, I very much doubt whether John Williams, Tom Finn etc would ever return to work for Venkys.
I sincerely hope they will but why would they after being treated so badly two years ago.

Even when you factor in an awful defence sat in front of him, Robinson hasn't been good enough, except for the game against Burnley. Jake Kean couldn't do anything about Blackpool's two goals but he had a good game otherwise. Vukcevic showed on Saturday, as he has done every time he's donned the 'blue-and-white', exactly why he should be in the starting XI. The fact that he was substituted was probably due to lack of match fitness, why else would Berg take off the best player on the pitch? As for Diogo Rosado's inclusion on the bench, why not? Our midfield has been conspicuous by its absence all season, surely it's time to give some of the fringe players a chance, if only to give the likes of Etuhu the proverbial 'kick up the backside'?

Venkys‏@Venkys_Adv
isors

alot comes from this guy

Good this is exactly what I suggested yesterday we need to keep trending this advertising in public to bring John Williams back to the club flyers etc and most importantly bombard Shebby's email with we want John Williams back with enough pressure there is a chance.

brfcrule1 wrote:
Good this is exactly what I suggested yesterday we need to keep trending this advertising in public to bring John Williams back to the club flyers etc and most importantly bombard Shebby's email with we want John Williams back with enough pressure there is a chance.

Do you have Shebby's e-mail address?

Riverside 7 wrote:
On the whole I agree with Dan's comments however, I had no objections the dropping of Robinson or starting with Vukcevic. In Robinson's case, there are issues with is weight as well as his recent form in goal. Vukcevic has deserved his chance for quite a while after impressing in a substitute appearance against Birmingham a few weeks ago. However, I do agree with him that all the rumours coming out of Ewood with regard to new Backroom staff is a major concern. Who is leaking this information? Is it Shebby? It is very unprofessional and matters such as this should be all sorted behind closed doors if possible. If you were Eric Black, Ian Brunskill or Bobby Mimms how would you feel? Unmotivated at best. With regard to the first post, I very much doubt whether John Williams, Tom Finn etc would ever return to work for Venkys. I sincerely hope they will but why would they after being treated so badly two years ago.

Completely agree. In most games Paul Robinson has been poor. The team against Blackpool was good from the players we have. It was brave of Berg to drop Robinson but the decision was correct. I dont think John Williams would return. What rovers need is every player working hard like other teams in championship. To Dan, rovers played really bad early in season but somehow won games. Nowadays the matches have been close and we have been losing as we only play better in one half of the game. The biggest problem is who decided to sign Etuhu and Murphy becaused in this division they are very ineffective,

"But Henning Berg, a man who has no proven managerial ability outside of Norway"

I don't think he has proven managerial ability inside Norway either, just a very modest record there. He was a complete gamble, presumably a cheap one, and one that does not appear to be paying off.

I reckon we send Shebby to suggest they sack him

shebbysingh@rovers.c
o.uk
shebby@rovers.co.uk
ssingh@rovers.co.uk

these are the 3 I was given I hope other people have more success with Shebby as whenever I have emailed him I have never received a reply from him even when I wrote to him via snail mail not received a reply if anyone can get something out of this man it would be a miracle I have also recently made my feelings known to him regarding John Williams but please if any of you email him if you shout and scream he will not likely reply please be diplomatic like I have and someone else might have more joy.

Good article. and a query that has entered my mind recently is thus:

Colin hendry has proved so ineffective as a defensive coach he has been demoted to assistant reserve team coach. he is also reportedly being paid £8000 per week and has only been retained at the club until such time as he has paid off his debt to one of the talentless Walker offspring.

Why though, if the walkers are nothing to do with us anymore, is this being allowed to happen? Surely the going rate in our division for an assistant youth team coach is more in the £600 per week bracket. Why are we paying Hendry £8000 per week so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers.

Could it be that the invisible/ uncontactable/ ridiculously inactive Venkeys are really just a front for our old owners to recoup money their uncle (the true and only walker businessman) spent on the club? were we actually ever sold? the walkers could be behind all this (the fire sale of all assets worth anything) and merely be paying the venkeys / anderson / kean et all to look like they are in charge. and if thats not the case then why are we paying a drunken granny robber £8000 a week to put cones out on a pitch for 2 hours a day? Out of some loyalty to the previous owner??? i think not.

and maybe this is a bit fantastic. but who knows where we are concerned eh? the truth will out in time i suppose. Sadly it will be when its way too late.

brfcrule1 wrote:
shebbysingh@rovers.c

o.uk
shebby@rovers.co.uk
ssingh@rovers.co.uk

these are the 3 I was given I hope other people have more success with Shebby as whenever I have emailed him I have never received a reply from him even when I wrote to him via snail mail not received a reply if anyone can get something out of this man it would be a miracle I have also recently made my feelings known to him regarding John Williams but please if any of you email him if you shout and scream he will not likely reply please be diplomatic like I have and someone else might have more joy.

No reply to polite and constructive letters delivered by hand either. But, then, not expected.

dan's article is spot on. the likes of BRAG got their wish when shabby appeased them and made his position untenable.

don't get me wrong i was happy to see the back of kean - but he was merely just the head of the serpent. BRAG seem content that they have a dialogue with the club, but what needs to be realised is that the issues run far deeper than the manager of the team - it remains the chronic mis-management of the club...witness the leaked letters by hunt and williams/finn.

i don't see how six months into singh's arrival that anything has changed at our club....and if anything it may be worse as shebby talks a good story and some seem to be taken in with his banter and smile.

a pal of mine was at a mayoral reception in the autumn and i believe shebby made a brief speech which started along the lines "it is customary to open with a joke, but i won't mention steve kean...." truth is the whole club resembles a sick joke, trouble is - no supporters are laughing.

Norman T Wangler wrote:
Good article. and a query that has entered my mind recently is thus: Colin hendry has proved so ineffective as a defensive coach he has been demoted to assistant reserve team coach. he is also reportedly being paid £8000 per week and has only been retained at the club until such time as he has paid off his debt to one of the talentless Walker offspring. Why though, if the walkers are nothing to do with us anymore, is this being allowed to happen? Surely the going rate in our division for an assistant youth team coach is more in the £600 per week bracket. Why are we paying Hendry £8000 per week so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers. Could it be that the invisible/ uncontactable/ ridiculously inactive Venkeys are really just a front for our old owners to recoup money their uncle (the true and only walker businessman) spent on the club? were we actually ever sold? the walkers could be behind all this (the fire sale of all assets worth anything) and merely be paying the venkeys / anderson / kean et all to look like they are in charge. and if thats not the case then why are we paying a drunken granny robber £8000 a week to put cones out on a pitch for 2 hours a day? Out of some loyalty to the previous owner??? i think not. and maybe this is a bit fantastic. but who knows where we are concerned eh? the truth will out in time i suppose. Sadly it will be when its way too late.

I suspect there is far more to this whole sad, sorry mess than we currently know and I dread to think how much the likes of Anderson and his associates have made from the club but I suspect your Walker family theory may be wide of the mark. That said, Jack would be spinning in his grave if he could see what is happening and the Walker Trust have much to answer for in regard to their involvement in the sale of the club to the totally incompetent Venkys.

nearly sane wrote:

Norman T Wangler wrote: Good article. and a query that has entered my mind recently is thus: Colin hendry has proved so ineffective as a defensive coach he has been demoted to assistant reserve team coach. he is also reportedly being paid £8000 per week and has only been retained at the club until such time as he has paid off his debt to one of the talentless Walker offspring. Why though, if the walkers are nothing to do with us anymore, is this being allowed to happen? Surely the going rate in our division for an assistant youth team coach is more in the £600 per week bracket. Why are we paying Hendry £8000 per week so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers. Could it be that the invisible/ uncontactable/ ridiculously inactive Venkeys are really just a front for our old owners to recoup money their uncle (the true and only walker businessman) spent on the club? were we actually ever sold? the walkers could be behind all this (the fire sale of all assets worth anything) and merely be paying the venkeys / anderson / kean et all to look like they are in charge. and if thats not the case then why are we paying a drunken granny robber £8000 a week to put cones out on a pitch for 2 hours a day? Out of some loyalty to the previous owner??? i think not. and maybe this is a bit fantastic. but who knows where we are concerned eh? the truth will out in time i suppose. Sadly it will be when its way too late.

I suspect there is far more to this whole sad, sorry mess than we currently know and I dread to think how much the likes of Anderson and his associates have made from the club but I suspect your Walker family theory may be wide of the mark. That said, Jack would be spinning in his grave if he could see what is happening and the Walker Trust have much to answer for in regard to their involvement in the sale of the club to the totally incompetent Venkys.

Yes i agree it probably is wide, but i dont understand why, with all the cost cutting, we are maintaining a pointless person on £8000 a week when he contributes very little, if anyything, to the cause. But as long as a talentless walker gets his money back eh! never mind the grannys he robbed.

And if Hendry reads this maybe he should read this article attached and give it a little contemplation:

http://www.lancashir
etelegraph.co.uk/new
s/crime/10095647.Thr
ee_preyed_on_vulnera
ble_elderly_people_i
n_Blackburn/

"Who decided to start with Simon Vukcevic"

IMO A start for Simon was long overdue this was his first start for twelve months since Sunderland away where he scored and by all accounts against Blackpool he was one of Rovers brighter players all be it in the first half and some of those who attended were puzzled by his substitution. Should be starting again in my book against Brighton but then in Venkys world we'llprobably not see hiom now for another twelve months.

srvp28 wrote:
Even when you factor in an awful defence sat in front of him, Robinson hasn't been good enough, except for the game against Burnley. Jake Kean couldn't do anything about Blackpool's two goals but he had a good game otherwise. Vukcevic showed on Saturday, as he has done every time he's donned the 'blue-and-white', exactly why he should be in the starting XI. The fact that he was substituted was probably due to lack of match fitness, why else would Berg take off the best player on the pitch? As for Diogo Rosado's inclusion on the bench, why not? Our midfield has been conspicuous by its absence all season, surely it's time to give some of the fringe players a chance, if only to give the likes of Etuhu the proverbial 'kick up the backside'?

The issue I have about Robinson is that Berg's comments insinuate Robinson might be to blame for results and that is unacceptable just like it is unacceptable to leak the info about the backroom staff. Individuals cant be blamed or identified. That will just add to the ill feeling. I expected better from Berg but I wasnt impressed by his interview regarding Robinson. Thought it was disrespectful

What a set of clowns, still blaming Steve Kean. Your new manager has now been in charge for 9 games and in this time he has managed a single win against more or less a League One side. At what point will it stop being Steve Keans fault? 10 games, 15 games, 20 games? You were 3rd and nailed on for promotion until you hounded that poor man out of job. Shame on you.

Norman T Wangler wrote:

nearly sane wrote:

Norman T Wangler wrote: Good article. and a query that has entered my mind recently is thus: Colin hendry has proved so ineffective as a defensive coach he has been demoted to assistant reserve team coach. he is also reportedly being paid £8000 per week and has only been retained at the club until such time as he has paid off his debt to one of the talentless Walker offspring. Why though, if the walkers are nothing to do with us anymore, is this being allowed to happen? Surely the going rate in our division for an assistant youth team coach is more in the £600 per week bracket. Why are we paying Hendry £8000 per week so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers. Could it be that the invisible/ uncontactable/ ridiculously inactive Venkeys are really just a front for our old owners to recoup money their uncle (the true and only walker businessman) spent on the club? were we actually ever sold? the walkers could be behind all this (the fire sale of all assets worth anything) and merely be paying the venkeys / anderson / kean et all to look like they are in charge. and if thats not the case then why are we paying a drunken granny robber £8000 a week to put cones out on a pitch for 2 hours a day? Out of some loyalty to the previous owner??? i think not. and maybe this is a bit fantastic. but who knows where we are concerned eh? the truth will out in time i suppose. Sadly it will be when its way too late.

I suspect there is far more to this whole sad, sorry mess than we currently know and I dread to think how much the likes of Anderson and his associates have made from the club but I suspect your Walker family theory may be wide of the mark. That said, Jack would be spinning in his grave if he could see what is happening and the Walker Trust have much to answer for in regard to their involvement in the sale of the club to the totally incompetent Venkys.

Yes i agree it probably is wide, but i dont understand why, with all the cost cutting, we are maintaining a pointless person on £8000 a week when he contributes very little, if anyything, to the cause. But as long as a talentless walker gets his money back eh! never mind the grannys he robbed.

And if Hendry reads this maybe he should read this article attached and give it a little contemplation:

http://www.lancashir

etelegraph.co.uk/new

s/crime/10095647.Thr

ee_preyed_on_vulnera

ble_elderly_people_i

n_Blackburn/

If this theory was true, Hendry would have been recruited from the beginning. Remember it was the idiot Kean who employed him more recently, because he probably thought he would connect with the fans or vice versa and he was another of his mates. How anybody can even manage to utter the words that we should have kept Kean, or we were doing better under Kean needs their head looking at. He was a very manipulative and dangerous man for Rovers and he's as much to blame as Venkys in my opinion if only that he played their front man for so long.

cloughy is spot on in his assessment of the present plight down at ewood, l can see no other outcome other than league 1 and that is a bloody disgrace when you consider where we have come from,,stability in the premiership, allardyce would have ensured premiership status and we could have progressed under the steerage of john williams to attain even more prosperity with the right investment, we were dismantled bit by bit by the new owners and its a national disgrace,

Are you saying we shouldn't have started Vucevic on Saturday Dan? He was clearly the stand out performer of the first half. Berg/Shebby was right to mix the team up since we were failing with the previous team. Not sure about dropping Robbo but if it spurs him on to better performances then it will be worth it.

merlinrabbit wrote:

Norman T Wangler wrote:

nearly sane wrote:

Norman T Wangler wrote: Good article. and a query that has entered my mind recently is thus: Colin hendry has proved so ineffective as a defensive coach he has been demoted to assistant reserve team coach. he is also reportedly being paid £8000 per week and has only been retained at the club until such time as he has paid off his debt to one of the talentless Walker offspring. Why though, if the walkers are nothing to do with us anymore, is this being allowed to happen? Surely the going rate in our division for an assistant youth team coach is more in the £600 per week bracket. Why are we paying Hendry £8000 per week so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers. Could it be that the invisible/ uncontactable/ ridiculously inactive Venkeys are really just a front for our old owners to recoup money their uncle (the true and only walker businessman) spent on the club? were we actually ever sold? the walkers could be behind all this (the fire sale of all assets worth anything) and merely be paying the venkeys / anderson / kean et all to look like they are in charge. and if thats not the case then why are we paying a drunken granny robber £8000 a week to put cones out on a pitch for 2 hours a day? Out of some loyalty to the previous owner??? i think not. and maybe this is a bit fantastic. but who knows where we are concerned eh? the truth will out in time i suppose. Sadly it will be when its way too late.

I suspect there is far more to this whole sad, sorry mess than we currently know and I dread to think how much the likes of Anderson and his associates have made from the club but I suspect your Walker family theory may be wide of the mark. That said, Jack would be spinning in his grave if he could see what is happening and the Walker Trust have much to answer for in regard to their involvement in the sale of the club to the totally incompetent Venkys.

Yes i agree it probably is wide, but i dont understand why, with all the cost cutting, we are maintaining a pointless person on £8000 a week when he contributes very little, if anyything, to the cause. But as long as a talentless walker gets his money back eh! never mind the grannys he robbed. And if Hendry reads this maybe he should read this article attached and give it a little contemplation: http://www.lancashir etelegraph.co.uk/new s/crime/10095647.Thr ee_preyed_on_vulnera ble_elderly_people_i n_Blackburn/

If this theory was true, Hendry would have been recruited from the beginning. Remember it was the idiot Kean who employed him more recently, because he probably thought he would connect with the fans or vice versa and he was another of his mates. How anybody can even manage to utter the words that we should have kept Kean, or we were doing better under Kean needs their head looking at. He was a very manipulative and dangerous man for Rovers and he's as much to blame as Venkys in my opinion if only that he played their front man for so long.

Yes agreed, and i was and am delighted that K*** is no longer at the club, but when all is said and done since the cave dwellers took over (or whoever did at that time because i have doubts they are anything but a front) there has been a steady stream of money out of Ewood. And yes i know we signed rhodes but as long as he doesnt break his leg they will recoup on him when they sell him on so barring a career ending injury it was hardly a gamble signing him.

And despite everything, i am glad kean is gone. I would seriously struggle restraining myself in the right situation with him - in fact i doubt id try to be honest. its just a shame that now he has gone there as still question marks over the running of the club and who actually owns us and is profitting from us.

fanny_tickler. wrote:
What a set of clowns, still blaming Steve Kean. Your new manager has now been in charge for 9 games and in this time he has managed a single win against more or less a League One side. At what point will it stop being Steve Keans fault? 10 games, 15 games, 20 games? You were 3rd and nailed on for promotion until you hounded that poor man out of job. Shame on you.

Is that the same league one side that mauled Cardiff last week??
You should be more concerned about Garlick breath saying Austin isn't for sale just like rodriguez wasn't. Last time I looked England international Rodriguez was plying his trade at Southampton, where, the next Alan Shearer and England number 9 has managed a cool 1 goal in fourteen appearances. With that kind of form I'm suprised Messi isn't looking over his shoulder.
As you can tell by my post, You Burnley folk sure are deluded about how good one of your players is, thats why Flash in the pan Austin will be sold in Jan, but will suffer the same fate as Chaplow and Rodriguez, two England international regulars just as you were talking about Austin playing for England only last week. Maybe they were talking about hockey???

MxMave wrote:
Are you saying we shouldn't have started Vucevic on Saturday Dan? He was clearly the stand out performer of the first half. Berg/Shebby was right to mix the team up since we were failing with the previous team. Not sure about dropping Robbo but if it spurs him on to better performances then it will be worth it.

No. Just questioning whose decision it was.

MxMave wrote:
Are you saying we shouldn't have started Vucevic on Saturday Dan? He was clearly the stand out performer of the first half. Berg/Shebby was right to mix the team up since we were failing with the previous team. Not sure about dropping Robbo but if it spurs him on to better performances then it will be worth it.

completely agree, Robbo has been out of form recently, he probably needs to lose weight and get sharper. Berg was right to play Jake and also Vucevic. Dan Clough needs to attend games if he is not.

What makes even less sense in the crazy world of Venky's?

Have a look at the transcript of Shebby's forum last week.

When talking about resolving financial issues it was WE, WE, WE, were working to do this.

When talking about team matters, new signings etc it was I, I, I am looking at this the majority of the time.

Freudian slip anyone.

If there is anyone remaining at Blackburn Rovers who has the balls to speak out against this horrendous creature? If so I would like to ask him (or her)

"What is a so called "Global advisor (sic)" and failed TV pundit, someone who has less knowledge about football than a dead frog, taking control of player signings.

YCMIU.

Why are we BRFC paying Hendry £8000 per week ?

Just to let you guys my friend whos an accountant has informed me that many business do this on paper to
1) save money on tax and
2) to ensure the money can be provided to the actual person without them paying any tax.

He actually does not get £8K
although, it shows on his payroll the amount goes to the Walker clan.
They absorb that into their other business or spend it as they wish.
Its just tax efficient and Hendry don't mind as its the only job hes gonna get..!!.

hence......Yes....
so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers.

actually would any sane person ever sell BRFC to people who havn't got a clue.

would you sell your crown jewels..?
BRFC is precious for all of us fans.


Walker family did.....!!!!! SOLD out

where was the loyalty..???

handyamBRFC wrote:
Why are we BRFC paying Hendry £8000 per week ?

Just to let you guys my friend whos an accountant has informed me that many business do this on paper to
1) save money on tax and
2) to ensure the money can be provided to the actual person without them paying any tax.

He actually does not get £8K
although, it shows on his payroll the amount goes to the Walker clan.
They absorb that into their other business or spend it as they wish.
Its just tax efficient and Hendry don't mind as its the only job hes gonna get..!!.

hence......Yes....
so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers.

actually would any sane person ever sell BRFC to people who havn't got a clue.

would you sell your crown jewels..?
BRFC is precious for all of us fans.


Walker family did.....!!!!! SOLD out

where was the loyalty..???

So obviously the reason Hnedry is at Rovers and is untouchable and that he getting paid 8k a week , it`s all very clear that HENDRY is paying off the debt he owes the multi millionaire Howard Walker , the 150k that Hendry owed Howard Walker (all absolute facts) when Hendry went bankrupt .

Great for Howard WALKER ,but what about all the other people Hendry stole from, the old age pensioners that he borrowed and in fact told a compendium of lies he told them ,for they nice old folk to loan him their 91,000 pounds life savings, and this loan was only a few short months before Hendry .
Hendry went bankrupt owing lots of people , but now we know through the illegal actions of Rovers, Hendry can illegally pay rich people back like Walker , but he cannot pay back the pensioners and the scores of tradesmen and working class people Hendry went bankrupt owing ! it stinks !

But yet again who gives Hendry all this advice ?
Who is Colin HENDRY`S financial advisor ?
Surprise ,surprise it is IAN BATTERSBY the guy that got Hendry to invest in all the shady film / tax avoidance schemes and all Hnedry`s shoddy investments all designed to avoid paying any tax on Hendry`s massive wages he was getting at the time , a cashier at Tesco would have been paying more income tax than Hendry ,thanks to Battesby.
So, all the time Hendry was raking in Jack`s money he was denying paying his share of hte taxes into the public purse ,no tax came from Hendry to pay for the NHS/schools/police etc..
Robert Coar our chairman the man who years ago tried unsuccesfully to get on the board at Burnley is the instigator behind most of this , Coar was the person that made sure Hnedry got the three (3) year contract at Rovers for 8,000 pounds a week so he could pay back H.Walker the money Hendry owed him.

penrithrover wrote:

handyamBRFC wrote:
Why are we BRFC paying Hendry £8000 per week ?

Just to let you guys my friend whos an accountant has informed me that many business do this on paper to
1) save money on tax and
2) to ensure the money can be provided to the actual person without them paying any tax.

He actually does not get £8K
although, it shows on his payroll the amount goes to the Walker clan.
They absorb that into their other business or spend it as they wish.
Its just tax efficient and Hendry don't mind as its the only job hes gonna get..!!.

hence......Yes....
so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers.

actually would any sane person ever sell BRFC to people who havn't got a clue.

would you sell your crown jewels..?
BRFC is precious for all of us fans.


Walker family did.....!!!!! SOLD out

where was the loyalty..???

So obviously the reason Hnedry is at Rovers and is untouchable and that he getting paid 8k a week , it`s all very clear that HENDRY is paying off the debt he owes the multi millionaire Howard Walker , the 150k that Hendry owed Howard Walker (all absolute facts) when Hendry went bankrupt .

Great for Howard WALKER ,but what about all the other people Hendry stole from, the old age pensioners that he borrowed and in fact told a compendium of lies he told them ,for they nice old folk to loan him their 91,000 pounds life savings, and this loan was only a few short months before Hendry .
Hendry went bankrupt owing lots of people , but now we know through the illegal actions of Rovers, Hendry can illegally pay rich people back like Walker , but he cannot pay back the pensioners and the scores of tradesmen and working class people Hendry went bankrupt owing ! it stinks !

But yet again who gives Hendry all this advice ?
Who is Colin HENDRY`S financial advisor ?
Surprise ,surprise it is IAN BATTERSBY the guy that got Hendry to invest in all the shady film / tax avoidance schemes and all Hnedry`s shoddy investments all designed to avoid paying any tax on Hendry`s massive wages he was getting at the time , a cashier at Tesco would have been paying more income tax than Hendry ,thanks to Battesby.
So, all the time Hendry was raking in Jack`s money he was denying paying his share of hte taxes into the public purse ,no tax came from Hendry to pay for the NHS/schools/police etc..
Robert Coar our chairman the man who years ago tried unsuccesfully to get on the board at Burnley is the instigator behind most of this , Coar was the person that made sure Hnedry got the three (3) year contract at Rovers for 8,000 pounds a week so he could pay back H.Walker the money Hendry owed him.

Wow, posting to yourself now, you need help.
Tell me? You are always on here saying which hand Hendry wipes his behind with so tell me this.
Are your friends going to turn up for their next court appearance as reported in todays daily mirror as you said they wanted their day in court. Yet when the opportunity arose they failed o show up???
Oh hang on a minute, sorry I forgot, they are charged with common assualt. One count for Hendry and one count for Hendrys daughter, and you were on here saying how funny it was when it happened. I hope the telegraph forum is used as evidence, I may even contact the prosecutor and let him know.
So all this sheite peddling you have been doing has been ever since they were charged. Hendry to my knowledge hasn't been charged with anything, on the other hand your chums have been. First step assualt charge and then restraining order.. Then what??
The thing is, if the prosecution thinks there is no grounds it usually doesn't even get to court so there must be grounds for the case to continue.
So dependant on the outcome, we will reserve judgement on your muck spreading.
So got anything to say about their behaviour then??? Have you any more nails to put in your accusations lid??
Bless

brfcrule1 wrote:
shebbysingh@rovers.c

o.uk
shebby@rovers.co.uk
ssingh@rovers.co.uk

these are the 3 I was given I hope other people have more success with Shebby as whenever I have emailed him I have never received a reply from him even when I wrote to him via snail mail not received a reply if anyone can get something out of this man it would be a miracle I have also recently made my feelings known to him regarding John Williams but please if any of you email him if you shout and scream he will not likely reply please be diplomatic like I have and someone else might have more joy.

My son worked there. I think they have changed the configuration of emails now so that the culprits of our demise cannot be bombarded and hassled by email. If you notice, the email contacts on the Rovers website have gone

owd nick wrote:
What makes even less sense in the crazy world of Venky's?

Have a look at the transcript of Shebby's forum last week.

When talking about resolving financial issues it was WE, WE, WE, were working to do this.

When talking about team matters, new signings etc it was I, I, I am looking at this the majority of the time.

Freudian slip anyone.

If there is anyone remaining at Blackburn Rovers who has the balls to speak out against this horrendous creature? If so I would like to ask him (or her)

"What is a so called "Global advisor (sic)" and failed TV pundit, someone who has less knowledge about football than a dead frog, taking control of player signings.

YCMIU.

and when asked about selling, he said "we" wont be selling.

Well said dan, time the whole circus packed up n went down the m65 to the land of 6 fingers

Shebby the clown right out

Reports today of big bust up berg n shebby at brockhall today

brfcrule1 wrote:
Good this is exactly what I suggested yesterday we need to keep trending this advertising in public to bring John Williams back to the club flyers etc and most importantly bombard Shebby's email with we want John Williams back with enough pressure there is a chance.

Why would you think JW would come back to this circus?

garydavies2304 wrote:
Venkys‏@Venkys_Adv

isors

alot comes from this guy

yes, a lot of garbage, he is a keyboard warrier somewhere near oldham i think.

Can anyone confirm Berg - Shebby bust up, and why ?

noddy57 wrote:
cloughy is spot on in his assessment of the present plight down at ewood, l can see no other outcome other than league 1 and that is a bloody disgrace when you consider where we have come from,,stability in the premiership, allardyce would have ensured premiership status and we could have progressed under the steerage of john williams to attain even more prosperity with the right investment, we were dismantled bit by bit by the new owners and its a national disgrace,

Why is it a national disgrace its their club they p aid for it they can do what they want.

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:

penrithrover wrote:

handyamBRFC wrote:
Why are we BRFC paying Hendry £8000 per week ?

Just to let you guys my friend whos an accountant has informed me that many business do this on paper to
1) save money on tax and
2) to ensure the money can be provided to the actual person without them paying any tax.

He actually does not get £8K
although, it shows on his payroll the amount goes to the Walker clan.
They absorb that into their other business or spend it as they wish.
Its just tax efficient and Hendry don't mind as its the only job hes gonna get..!!.

hence......Yes....
so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers.

actually would any sane person ever sell BRFC to people who havn't got a clue.

would you sell your crown jewels..?
BRFC is precious for all of us fans.


Walker family did.....!!!!! SOLD out

where was the loyalty..???

So obviously the reason Hnedry is at Rovers and is untouchable and that he getting paid 8k a week , it`s all very clear that HENDRY is paying off the debt he owes the multi millionaire Howard Walker , the 150k that Hendry owed Howard Walker (all absolute facts) when Hendry went bankrupt .

Great for Howard WALKER ,but what about all the other people Hendry stole from, the old age pensioners that he borrowed and in fact told a compendium of lies he told them ,for they nice old folk to loan him their 91,000 pounds life savings, and this loan was only a few short months before Hendry .
Hendry went bankrupt owing lots of people , but now we know through the illegal actions of Rovers, Hendry can illegally pay rich people back like Walker , but he cannot pay back the pensioners and the scores of tradesmen and working class people Hendry went bankrupt owing ! it stinks !

But yet again who gives Hendry all this advice ?
Who is Colin HENDRY`S financial advisor ?
Surprise ,surprise it is IAN BATTERSBY the guy that got Hendry to invest in all the shady film / tax avoidance schemes and all Hnedry`s shoddy investments all designed to avoid paying any tax on Hendry`s massive wages he was getting at the time , a cashier at Tesco would have been paying more income tax than Hendry ,thanks to Battesby.
So, all the time Hendry was raking in Jack`s money he was denying paying his share of hte taxes into the public purse ,no tax came from Hendry to pay for the NHS/schools/police etc..
Robert Coar our chairman the man who years ago tried unsuccesfully to get on the board at Burnley is the instigator behind most of this , Coar was the person that made sure Hnedry got the three (3) year contract at Rovers for 8,000 pounds a week so he could pay back H.Walker the money Hendry owed him.

Wow, posting to yourself now, you need help.
Tell me? You are always on here saying which hand Hendry wipes his behind with so tell me this.
Are your friends going to turn up for their next court appearance as reported in todays daily mirror as you said they wanted their day in court. Yet when the opportunity arose they failed o show up???
Oh hang on a minute, sorry I forgot, they are charged with common assualt. One count for Hendry and one count for Hendrys daughter, and you were on here saying how funny it was when it happened. I hope the telegraph forum is used as evidence, I may even contact the prosecutor and let him know.
So all this sheite peddling you have been doing has been ever since they were charged. Hendry to my knowledge hasn't been charged with anything, on the other hand your chums have been. First step assualt charge and then restraining order.. Then what??
The thing is, if the prosecution thinks there is no grounds it usually doesn't even get to court so there must be grounds for the case to continue.
So dependant on the outcome, we will reserve judgement on your muck spreading.
So got anything to say about their behaviour then??? Have you any more nails to put in your accusations lid??
Bless

LISTEN STUPID AR*E , there has been NO CHARGE against these old people FACT , I REPEAT "NO CHARGE" against these people , you effing clown , GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT irrespective of the Sh*te Hendry tries to get in the newspapers.

IF YOU ever bothered to read the whole story , the old guy walked over to Hendry to ask him about the 91,000 pounds Hendry stole from him, Hendry seeing him coming and heading in his direction ,then Hendry done a Norman Wisdom ,trip, and tumbled over his own feet ,and then pulled his daughter down and Hendry screamed "he hit a woman" Hendry was again lying and manipulating an incident again to try and make the old people appear bad , THE FACTS ARE HENDY HAS GOT AWAY WITH STEALING THE LIFE SAVINGS OF THESE OLD PEOPLE AND IT`S CLOWNS LIKE YOU THAT THINK IT IS ALL O.K AND COLIN HENDRY CAN DO THAT , SO BOG OFF ,AND TELL YOUR MATE HENDRY TO GET BACK TO HIS JOB AS ASSISTANT/ASSISTANT TO THE RESERVE TEAM MANAGER !

kenbro wrote:
Can anyone confirm Berg - Shebby bust up, and why ?

I would'nt believe everything on this site, many conspiracy theorists and rumour mongerers.

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A decent analysis of the plight BRFC find themselves in since the takeover by the totally inept Venky's... However, since at least on paper they are the owners of the club there would appear to be nothing that can be done until they have stripped everything of any value from us and then move on.... I am sorry to say I was predicting this last year and was shouted down as being yet another conspiracy theorist. I cannot go along with DD or smelly/diamonds, but I do and always have believed that we are being bled dry.... was only a few months since we were told that BRFC was "debt free" the latest accounts totally refute that statement, so, what has happened to the monies gained from the sales of top class players? ... yes we bought rhodes, but as has already been stated thats not spending as the money can be got back by re-selling and with interest..... The only hope that I can see is that Venky's bale out before we are in a position that leaves the club in administration..... As for Shebby.... would you buy a used car from him????

maybe the venkys do own the club, so what, does that make it right? dont tell me you like what you see? when a club is bought in the way blackburn were there has to be a body to oversee the progression and sensible handling of the new aquirement and if the body see that the new owners are a complete circus then that body must ensure they have the power to enforce a sell on clause,just as the greedy players have in their contracts, thus enabling the club to halt the deterioration of the situation further,, this once proud lancashire club has been dragged so far down the pit of ridicule that there is very little chance of it ever getting back its pride,,

penrithrover wrote:

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:

penrithrover wrote:

handyamBRFC wrote:
Why are we BRFC paying Hendry £8000 per week ?

Just to let you guys my friend whos an accountant has informed me that many business do this on paper to
1) save money on tax and
2) to ensure the money can be provided to the actual person without them paying any tax.

He actually does not get £8K
although, it shows on his payroll the amount goes to the Walker clan.
They absorb that into their other business or spend it as they wish.
Its just tax efficient and Hendry don't mind as its the only job hes gonna get..!!.

hence......Yes....
so he can pay off an 'ex owner' who (apparently) sold us down the river to these cave dwellers.

actually would any sane person ever sell BRFC to people who havn't got a clue.

would you sell your crown jewels..?
BRFC is precious for all of us fans.


Walker family did.....!!!!! SOLD out

where was the loyalty..???

So obviously the reason Hnedry is at Rovers and is untouchable and that he getting paid 8k a week , it`s all very clear that HENDRY is paying off the debt he owes the multi millionaire Howard Walker , the 150k that Hendry owed Howard Walker (all absolute facts) when Hendry went bankrupt .

Great for Howard WALKER ,but what about all the other people Hendry stole from, the old age pensioners that he borrowed and in fact told a compendium of lies he told them ,for they nice old folk to loan him their 91,000 pounds life savings, and this loan was only a few short months before Hendry .
Hendry went bankrupt owing lots of people , but now we know through the illegal actions of Rovers, Hendry can illegally pay rich people back like Walker , but he cannot pay back the pensioners and the scores of tradesmen and working class people Hendry went bankrupt owing ! it stinks !

But yet again who gives Hendry all this advice ?
Who is Colin HENDRY`S financial advisor ?
Surprise ,surprise it is IAN BATTERSBY the guy that got Hendry to invest in all the shady film / tax avoidance schemes and all Hnedry`s shoddy investments all designed to avoid paying any tax on Hendry`s massive wages he was getting at the time , a cashier at Tesco would have been paying more income tax than Hendry ,thanks to Battesby.
So, all the time Hendry was raking in Jack`s money he was denying paying his share of hte taxes into the public purse ,no tax came from Hendry to pay for the NHS/schools/police etc..
Robert Coar our chairman the man who years ago tried unsuccesfully to get on the board at Burnley is the instigator behind most of this , Coar was the person that made sure Hnedry got the three (3) year contract at Rovers for 8,000 pounds a week so he could pay back H.Walker the money Hendry owed him.

Wow, posting to yourself now, you need help.
Tell me? You are always on here saying which hand Hendry wipes his behind with so tell me this.
Are your friends going to turn up for their next court appearance as reported in todays daily mirror as you said they wanted their day in court. Yet when the opportunity arose they failed o show up???
Oh hang on a minute, sorry I forgot, they are charged with common assualt. One count for Hendry and one count for Hendrys daughter, and you were on here saying how funny it was when it happened. I hope the telegraph forum is used as evidence, I may even contact the prosecutor and let him know.
So all this sheite peddling you have been doing has been ever since they were charged. Hendry to my knowledge hasn't been charged with anything, on the other hand your chums have been. First step assualt charge and then restraining order.. Then what??
The thing is, if the prosecution thinks there is no grounds it usually doesn't even get to court so there must be grounds for the case to continue.
So dependant on the outcome, we will reserve judgement on your muck spreading.
So got anything to say about their behaviour then??? Have you any more nails to put in your accusations lid??
Bless

LISTEN STUPID AR*E , there has been NO CHARGE against these old people FACT , I REPEAT "NO CHARGE" against these people , you effing clown , GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT irrespective of the Sh*te Hendry tries to get in the newspapers.

IF YOU ever bothered to read the whole story , the old guy walked over to Hendry to ask him about the 91,000 pounds Hendry stole from him, Hendry seeing him coming and heading in his direction ,then Hendry done a Norman Wisdom ,trip, and tumbled over his own feet ,and then pulled his daughter down and Hendry screamed "he hit a woman" Hendry was again lying and manipulating an incident again to try and make the old people appear bad , THE FACTS ARE HENDY HAS GOT AWAY WITH STEALING THE LIFE SAVINGS OF THESE OLD PEOPLE AND IT`S CLOWNS LIKE YOU THAT THINK IT IS ALL O.K AND COLIN HENDRY CAN DO THAT , SO BOG OFF ,AND TELL YOUR MATE HENDRY TO GET BACK TO HIS JOB AS ASSISTANT/ASSISTANT TO THE RESERVE TEAM MANAGER !

Hark at you, all I did was as you have done,and you have a hissy fit like a big jessi, all I said was that the article which the mirror reported as FACT on monday said your two chums were up on assault charges. I'm just telling it like it is. It was in the English mirror on monday. Two counts of assault and they failed to show up as they were abroad on holiday, maybe somewhere sunny where you can post in the middle of the day, at 3 38 in the morning our time, just a thought..
I don't know, these career criminal types know all the loopholes.

MERRY Xmas
I have tried to look at the 1st team squad and analyzed what players are ok and what potential we have and those that should be moved on.
I would like to hear what other fans views are?
List those who you want out?
What players would you like to see playing at BRFC ?
Have you seen any players you think could do the business for Rovers?
Let’s hear your views?

Paul Robinson - OK: Keep if motivated
Grzegorz Sandomierski - Untried
Jake Kean –YOUNG Ok: Potential
Martin Olsson- OK Keep if motivated
Nuno Henrique- Untried Potential
Gael Givet- Ok Keep if motivated
Scott Dann- Ok Keep; sell if money is right
Josh Morris- YOUNG Ok Potential
Adam Henley- YOUNG Ok Potential
Grant Hanley- ok for squad not 1st team
Bruno Ribeiro- ok for squad; Potential
Jason Lowe- YOUNG Ok as squad member
David Dunn- past it; let go
Mauro Formica- Not good enough, sell if possible
Morten Gamst Pedersen- past it; let go
Danny Murphy- past it; let go
Marcus Olsson- ok for squad
Paulo Jorge- YOUNG Untried Potential
Dickson Etuhu- past it; let go
Simon Vukcevic- Ok Potential
Diogo Rosado- YOUNG OK Potential
Fabio Nunes- YOUNG OK Potential
Leon Best- ??? Hopefully ok
Jordan Rhodes- Keep of course
Joshua King- OK Buy Potential
Nuno Gomes- Ok Keep
Ruben Rochina- OK keep if motivated
Colin Kazim-Richards- OK Keep
Bradley Orr – Crap; sell
David Goodwillie ok But sell if money refunded.
MERRY XMAS

Merry Xmas
I care about my club....BRFC.
Maybe we cant do what 'Our Jack' did but at least we should not give up hope and get together rather then be divided amongst ourselves.

Do you know what will hurt 'Our Jack' the most ...the fact that his own family sold the crown jewels....BRFC.
irrespective to who they sold to...!

the very fact they sold out....!!

Evrything 'Our Jack' did for the club to build it up into a premiership club.

only for them walker trustees to sell for the sake of some petty cash. this was just greed because 'Our jack had carefully planned everything for them all even for the walker family and they were not meant to sell the crown jewels.

Anyway, now I believe we fans should do everything possible especially in difficult times to bring the fans & BRFC together.
We need to be stronger, we need to show the world we can come together in times of need and this period is that occasion.
I believe in BRFC and Blackburn and would ask every fan and resident of the Lancashire area to get together and be positive. We shall not be allowed to be dragged to the bottom of everything.
We are a proud people of Lancashire a proud club and we should raise ourselves to where we belong to the upper echelons of English society and the the premiership again one day soon.

to the football......!!
I think we should raid clubs who are thinking of bringing in new players themselves.
e.g. QPR as it seems are a club waiting to make changes to their staff hence a good time to get some of their players.
I can think of some at QPR who could fit the bill.
what do you guys think..?
Givet is going in January.
Defenders needed and a midfielder.

Arte et Labore