Rovers ponder plan B after Tim Sherwood setback

Tim Sherwood Tim Sherwood

BLACKBURN Rovers were left seriously considering alternative managerial options last night after attempts to open talks with Tim Sherwood were knocked back for a second time.

Global advisor Shebby Singh believes Rovers’ Premier League winning skipper would be a good candidate in the race to succeed Steve Kean – but has so far been frustrated in efforts to discuss the opportunity with him.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is known to be a big admirer of his technical co-ordinator Sherwood and is demanding a hefty compensation fee for the 43-year-old to be agreed before granting permission to any approach.

Sherwood though is under-stood to be keen on discussing the position further with Rovers owners but has been left waiting for an agreement to be struck between the two clubs.

Singh is understood to the main driver of attempts to lure Sherwood to Ewood, with other members of Rovers’ hierarchy advocating a more experienced appointment.

Blackpool’s Ian Holloway has been seriously discussed and the Fylde Coast outfit have been bracing themselves for an approach for the past few days.

As yet, Rovers have yet to make any formal move for the Bristolian and, with other names on their short list, discussions were continuing last night about what their next should be.

Rovers have far from given up on their attempts to land Sherwood though and remain hopeful they will ultimately get the opportunity to discuss a move with their former midfielder.

They are left hoping Sherwood himself holds talks with Levy to request permission to speak to Rovers, as he looks to start a managerial career.

Rovers are unlikely to simply walk away from their efforts though and talks between Singh and Spurs are likely to continue in an attempt to find a solution.

Rovers though are believed to have spoken to several other potential managers since last week and have other options should their attempts to talk to Sherwood ultimately fail.

Any appointment is looking increasingly unlikely ahead of Saturday's trip to Derby County, with caretaker boss Eric Black expected to continue in temporary charge.

Comments (56)

10:56am Thu 18 Oct 12

kazz says...

Espn think shearer is going to be interviewed
Espn think shearer is going to be interviewed kazz

11:06am Thu 18 Oct 12

janus1947 says...

If Sherwood really wants the job, he'll force it through. This happens every time an employed manager is sought, nothing strange happening here.
If Sherwood really wants the job, he'll force it through. This happens every time an employed manager is sought, nothing strange happening here. janus1947

11:11am Thu 18 Oct 12

French Rover says...

That would make things interesting....Shear
er could still be a good option for us with someone like Newell or even Dowie as assistant? But also it could see Sherwood telling Spurs that he demands the OK to speak with us about the job. Either way a Shearer interview could work for us.
That would make things interesting....Shear er could still be a good option for us with someone like Newell or even Dowie as assistant? But also it could see Sherwood telling Spurs that he demands the OK to speak with us about the job. Either way a Shearer interview could work for us. French Rover

11:13am Thu 18 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

If Sherwood was a serious candidate, and wanted the job, they could have made it happen, managers move clubs this way fairly regularly.

Other posters on here have suggested that Plan 'B' for Black has been the only option that Venkys can and will deliver. If he had actually managed one decent result it would be over by now.

This may be in the interets of Shebby, Hendry, Shaw, Agnew and Venkys, I can see no evidence that it is a good thing for the future of BRFC.
If Sherwood was a serious candidate, and wanted the job, they could have made it happen, managers move clubs this way fairly regularly. Other posters on here have suggested that Plan 'B' for Black has been the only option that Venkys can and will deliver. If he had actually managed one decent result it would be over by now. This may be in the interets of Shebby, Hendry, Shaw, Agnew and Venkys, I can see no evidence that it is a good thing for the future of BRFC. greenscreener

11:14am Thu 18 Oct 12

Dukes says...

Experiences is needed and don't let that clown shebby delay things GET THE MESSAGE SHERWOOD NO THANKS TO HIM.
Experiences is needed and don't let that clown shebby delay things GET THE MESSAGE SHERWOOD NO THANKS TO HIM. Dukes

11:28am Thu 18 Oct 12

Tatts says...

What is this obsession with inexperienced managers? I suspect they want someone who is inexperienced so that:

a) They can insist that he travels to India every other week.

b) They can buy and sell players without the manager's say-so.

Experienced managers don't tend to put up with this kind of thing (eg Big Sam), so by giving it to someone who is grateful for the step up to football management, they can carry on with their nonsense.
What is this obsession with inexperienced managers? I suspect they want someone who is inexperienced so that: a) They can insist that he travels to India every other week. b) They can buy and sell players without the manager's say-so. Experienced managers don't tend to put up with this kind of thing (eg Big Sam), so by giving it to someone who is grateful for the step up to football management, they can carry on with their nonsense. Tatts

11:29am Thu 18 Oct 12

Mr Purple says...

Taking off my (blue) rose tinted spectacles for a moment.... This is becoming a joke. I had hoped that we were moving on from the last 18 mths, however this mulling over and pondering nonesense of the last 3 weeks is just ridiculous. I am now resigned to the fact that we are once more being fed a load of tripe and that there still remains an abyss inplace of coherent administration within the club. I am sick and tired of it. I really am trying to give Singh and Venkys a chance, but FFS they really do not help themselves. I had a dream last night that was similar to the Danny Rose incident in the u21 international game, however this time it was the two venky brothers who were being berated. Not nice, but I can't help what I dream and theres a reason why it's on my mind when I am asleep.

RTID, but it's killing me!
Taking off my (blue) rose tinted spectacles for a moment.... This is becoming a joke. I had hoped that we were moving on from the last 18 mths, however this mulling over and pondering nonesense of the last 3 weeks is just ridiculous. I am now resigned to the fact that we are once more being fed a load of tripe and that there still remains an abyss inplace of coherent administration within the club. I am sick and tired of it. I really am trying to give Singh and Venkys a chance, but FFS they really do not help themselves. I had a dream last night that was similar to the Danny Rose incident in the u21 international game, however this time it was the two venky brothers who were being berated. Not nice, but I can't help what I dream and theres a reason why it's on my mind when I am asleep. RTID, but it's killing me! Mr Purple

11:30am Thu 18 Oct 12

MerlinTheVoiceofReason2 says...

Shebby, please drop this personal obsession with Sherwood. I have bad vibes about it.
Just go and get Holloway. An experienced pair of hands, he has unearthed some good players for not much money and is the man-motivator Rovers badly need. I think IH is Derek Shaw's preferred opiton.

Under no circumstances listen to Paul Agnew, who (allegedly) thinks Eric Black should be given the job.
Shebby, please drop this personal obsession with Sherwood. I have bad vibes about it. Just go and get Holloway. An experienced pair of hands, he has unearthed some good players for not much money and is the man-motivator Rovers badly need. I think IH is Derek Shaw's preferred opiton. Under no circumstances listen to Paul Agnew, who (allegedly) thinks Eric Black should be given the job. MerlinTheVoiceofReason2

11:31am Thu 18 Oct 12

Mr Purple says...

Separately, I heard that Plan B was addicted to Championship Manager when he was a kid, so at least he has some level of experience.
Separately, I heard that Plan B was addicted to Championship Manager when he was a kid, so at least he has some level of experience. Mr Purple

11:39am Thu 18 Oct 12

ScottishRover says...

I cannot believe that Shebby and Venky's still insist that an inexperienced manager is the way forward, surely we need all the experience we can get and the longer this joke drags on, the less likely it is that a current experienced man will even want the job, which manager in their right mind would want to be second best to an "unknown manager".
Sherwood may have been a great player and a club captain legend but he has no managerial experience... the same can be said for Shearer!!
Stop clowning around and go and get the right man for the job before this sinking ship becomes the Titanic.
I cannot believe that Shebby and Venky's still insist that an inexperienced manager is the way forward, surely we need all the experience we can get and the longer this joke drags on, the less likely it is that a current experienced man will even want the job, which manager in their right mind would want to be second best to an "unknown manager". Sherwood may have been a great player and a club captain legend but he has no managerial experience... the same can be said for Shearer!! Stop clowning around and go and get the right man for the job before this sinking ship becomes the Titanic. ScottishRover

11:45am Thu 18 Oct 12

dangerous dave says...

Plan a b c d e f g h i j k l and on and on!!!
What a bloody joke - this so called 'global adviser' is definitely 'Shabbyt'!!
The fans keep telling the idiot that Sherwood is not wanted so 'Shabby' just forget your obsession for him and sort out the mess -
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
Plan a b c d e f g h i j k l and on and on!!! What a bloody joke - this so called 'global adviser' is definitely 'Shabbyt'!! The fans keep telling the idiot that Sherwood is not wanted so 'Shabby' just forget your obsession for him and sort out the mess - OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave

11:49am Thu 18 Oct 12

Rover82 says...

If Sherwood is hired on the back of Shebby pushing so hard and it fails then it is bye bye SS, the fans will turn on him more than Venkys as they will only stump up the compo to Spuds if he pushes hard enough so it will be his fault. We should definitely at least talk to Ian Holloway if he is in anyway interested.
If Sherwood is hired on the back of Shebby pushing so hard and it fails then it is bye bye SS, the fans will turn on him more than Venkys as they will only stump up the compo to Spuds if he pushes hard enough so it will be his fault. We should definitely at least talk to Ian Holloway if he is in anyway interested. Rover82

11:57am Thu 18 Oct 12

thommovat says...

Mr Purple wrote:
Taking off my (blue) rose tinted spectacles for a moment.... This is becoming a joke. I had hoped that we were moving on from the last 18 mths, however this mulling over and pondering nonesense of the last 3 weeks is just ridiculous. I am now resigned to the fact that we are once more being fed a load of tripe and that there still remains an abyss inplace of coherent administration within the club. I am sick and tired of it. I really am trying to give Singh and Venkys a chance, but FFS they really do not help themselves. I had a dream last night that was similar to the Danny Rose incident in the u21 international game, however this time it was the two venky brothers who were being berated. Not nice, but I can't help what I dream and theres a reason why it's on my mind when I am asleep. RTID, but it's killing me!
I have to agree and, given their obvious hopelessness, I can only see Venkys selling to a responsible owner as the answer to everyone's prayers for a decent future for the club.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Purple[/bold] wrote: Taking off my (blue) rose tinted spectacles for a moment.... This is becoming a joke. I had hoped that we were moving on from the last 18 mths, however this mulling over and pondering nonesense of the last 3 weeks is just ridiculous. I am now resigned to the fact that we are once more being fed a load of tripe and that there still remains an abyss inplace of coherent administration within the club. I am sick and tired of it. I really am trying to give Singh and Venkys a chance, but FFS they really do not help themselves. I had a dream last night that was similar to the Danny Rose incident in the u21 international game, however this time it was the two venky brothers who were being berated. Not nice, but I can't help what I dream and theres a reason why it's on my mind when I am asleep. RTID, but it's killing me![/p][/quote]I have to agree and, given their obvious hopelessness, I can only see Venkys selling to a responsible owner as the answer to everyone's prayers for a decent future for the club. thommovat

12:05pm Thu 18 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Turn to plan B? They have never had a PLAN A!
Turn to plan B? They have never had a PLAN A! A Darener

12:16pm Thu 18 Oct 12

A Darener says...

"Kean earns fresh deal at Rovers"!
I've just nearly had a heart attack after reading headline on Skysports site. Fortunately it was Jake Kean signing longer contract. Phewwww!
"Kean earns fresh deal at Rovers"! I've just nearly had a heart attack after reading headline on Skysports site. Fortunately it was Jake Kean signing longer contract. Phewwww! A Darener

12:24pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Gaz M says...

Rovers pondering plan B this sums Rovers efforts to date on the manager recruitment exactly, PONDEROUS !!
Rovers pondering plan B this sums Rovers efforts to date on the manager recruitment exactly, PONDEROUS !! Gaz M

12:24pm Thu 18 Oct 12

J.C - Rishton says...

MerlinTheVoiceofReas
on2
wrote:
Shebby, please drop this personal obsession with Sherwood. I have bad vibes about it.
Just go and get Holloway. An experienced pair of hands, he has unearthed some good players for not much money and is the man-motivator Rovers badly need. I think IH is Derek Shaw's preferred opiton.

Under no circumstances listen to Paul Agnew, who (allegedly) thinks Eric Black should be given the job.
I havent heard that PA is pushing for EB although it would make sense.

Paul Agnew is bought and paid for by JA and of course EB is a JA client.

Or is that just one of those pesky COINCIDENCES that keep appearing between JA and BRFC ever since (and even 3 months prior) to Venkys buying our club ???
[quote][p][bold]MerlinTheVoiceofReas on2[/bold] wrote: Shebby, please drop this personal obsession with Sherwood. I have bad vibes about it. Just go and get Holloway. An experienced pair of hands, he has unearthed some good players for not much money and is the man-motivator Rovers badly need. I think IH is Derek Shaw's preferred opiton. Under no circumstances listen to Paul Agnew, who (allegedly) thinks Eric Black should be given the job.[/p][/quote]I havent heard that PA is pushing for EB although it would make sense. Paul Agnew is bought and paid for by JA and of course EB is a JA client. Or is that just one of those pesky COINCIDENCES that keep appearing between JA and BRFC ever since (and even 3 months prior) to Venkys buying our club ??? J.C - Rishton

12:33pm Thu 18 Oct 12

jezblue says...

I don't see the interest in Sherwood at all. He wasn't that good a player at Ewood and spent most of the game pointing to others or passing back. Has he changed that much that he would make a great manager???
I don't see the interest in Sherwood at all. He wasn't that good a player at Ewood and spent most of the game pointing to others or passing back. Has he changed that much that he would make a great manager??? jezblue

12:53pm Thu 18 Oct 12

andybrfc says...

Lets hope this is all just a smokescreen for recruiting ole gunner solksjaer.
Lets hope this is all just a smokescreen for recruiting ole gunner solksjaer. andybrfc

12:55pm Thu 18 Oct 12

andybrfc says...

jezblue - he was captain though. Which meant he was chosen by king kenny for his leadership abilities and keeping the whole team together...
jezblue - he was captain though. Which meant he was chosen by king kenny for his leadership abilities and keeping the whole team together... andybrfc

12:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

stony bloke says...

Tatts wrote:
What is this obsession with inexperienced managers? I suspect they want someone who is inexperienced so that:

a) They can insist that he travels to India every other week.

b) They can buy and sell players without the manager's say-so.

Experienced managers don't tend to put up with this kind of thing (eg Big Sam), so by giving it to someone who is grateful for the step up to football management, they can carry on with their nonsense.
Exactly this. A decent manager wouldn't put up with the manipulation by the management, but a rookie wouldn't have much choice. SS claims they must make the right decision but he seems set on following his own preferences and ignoring the wealth of informed opinion. To be honest, in view of the above points, I can't see any decent manager wanting to come here. Just look back to Holloway's comments when he was first touted for this job. Quote, "I know I keep chickens but this is ridiculous" was among the better quotes.
[quote][p][bold]Tatts[/bold] wrote: What is this obsession with inexperienced managers? I suspect they want someone who is inexperienced so that: a) They can insist that he travels to India every other week. b) They can buy and sell players without the manager's say-so. Experienced managers don't tend to put up with this kind of thing (eg Big Sam), so by giving it to someone who is grateful for the step up to football management, they can carry on with their nonsense.[/p][/quote]Exactly this. A decent manager wouldn't put up with the manipulation by the management, but a rookie wouldn't have much choice. SS claims they must make the right decision but he seems set on following his own preferences and ignoring the wealth of informed opinion. To be honest, in view of the above points, I can't see any decent manager wanting to come here. Just look back to Holloway's comments when he was first touted for this job. Quote, "I know I keep chickens but this is ridiculous" was among the better quotes. stony bloke

1:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MxMave says...

WE
DONT
WANT
SHERWOOD

WE
NEED
EXPERIENCE

HOW THICK DO YOU HAVE TO BE?!!??!?!
THE CLUB WAS DESTROYED BY WAY OF NO EXPERIENCE AND THEY CONTINUE DOWN THE SAME PATH!! UNBELIEVABLE!
WE DONT WANT SHERWOOD WE NEED EXPERIENCE HOW THICK DO YOU HAVE TO BE?!!??!?! THE CLUB WAS DESTROYED BY WAY OF NO EXPERIENCE AND THEY CONTINUE DOWN THE SAME PATH!! UNBELIEVABLE! MxMave

1:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

I wish Sebby Singh would go away I dont think he is up to such an important job. He doesn't want experience only people he can interfere with and swan off buying players behind the managers back. His approach is not the way forward for this club and he shouldn't be here. If he gets this wrong relegation and hardly any gates will be a sure thing and very soon.
I wish Sebby Singh would go away I dont think he is up to such an important job. He doesn't want experience only people he can interfere with and swan off buying players behind the managers back. His approach is not the way forward for this club and he shouldn't be here. If he gets this wrong relegation and hardly any gates will be a sure thing and very soon. A Rover 45 years and over

1:32pm Thu 18 Oct 12

FannyTickler says...

SINGH OUT.
SINGH OUT. FannyTickler

2:13pm Thu 18 Oct 12

zenoufthebirdcatcher says...

Sherwood is the wrong man, though I think that Shebby's persistence will pay off.
Plan B: Shearer is a non starter in my opinion. Personally, I would prefer either Holloway or Keith Hill, strong characters both, but methinks that neither could work with the current, chaotic set up. The Black/Hendry combo will not happen. I hope that I am wrong, but I cannot see this business ending well.
Nearly had a heart attack on reading the Kean headline. Perhaps young Jake could change it or the headline writer stop playing with the physical wellbeing of the fans. We have suffered enough.
Sherwood is the wrong man, though I think that Shebby's persistence will pay off. Plan B: Shearer is a non starter in my opinion. Personally, I would prefer either Holloway or Keith Hill, strong characters both, but methinks that neither could work with the current, chaotic set up. The Black/Hendry combo will not happen. I hope that I am wrong, but I cannot see this business ending well. Nearly had a heart attack on reading the Kean headline. Perhaps young Jake could change it or the headline writer stop playing with the physical wellbeing of the fans. We have suffered enough. zenoufthebirdcatcher

2:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

wolsty says...

If we stick with BLACK and HENRY I can see 3pts lost this weekend,that maybe put the cat amongst the pidgion's never mind eh
If we stick with BLACK and HENRY I can see 3pts lost this weekend,that maybe put the cat amongst the pidgion's never mind eh wolsty

2:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Captain Dreckley says...

Here's wishing Kean all the luck in the world in landing the Scotland job and taking Black and Hendry with him. Soon as they go, rebuild the wall! As for Rovers new manager, it really is Christmas come early as Singh and Venkys have turned this into a real pantomime. It is pathetic and smacks of incompetence of the highest. Next announcement will be a manager by Christmas but which Christmas
Here's wishing Kean all the luck in the world in landing the Scotland job and taking Black and Hendry with him. Soon as they go, rebuild the wall! As for Rovers new manager, it really is Christmas come early as Singh and Venkys have turned this into a real pantomime. It is pathetic and smacks of incompetence of the highest. Next announcement will be a manager by Christmas but which Christmas Captain Dreckley

2:47pm Thu 18 Oct 12

RUinsane says...

Theres a good boy shaggy, move on, why pay 3 million compo and 2 mill a year for a guy with no experience, you could probably poach Sam Allardyce for that kind of money.
Simon Grayson or Ian Holloway please. Mick bananaman Mcarhy can bore the trotters to death.
Theres a good boy shaggy, move on, why pay 3 million compo and 2 mill a year for a guy with no experience, you could probably poach Sam Allardyce for that kind of money. Simon Grayson or Ian Holloway please. Mick bananaman Mcarhy can bore the trotters to death. RUinsane

3:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

Maybe Shebby you if you could ask guys like Frank Mc Lintock/ Brian McClair/ Trevor Brooking/ Howard Kendall/ Francis Lee senior people in the game ?
this question would you employ Eric Black and / or Colin Hendry , I can absolutely assure you of the answer Black decent coach a good number 2 ,but nothing more, Hendry, lazy ,egotistical, addicted to gambling ,and he will undermine any young manager you bring in.
Maybe Shebby you if you could ask guys like Frank Mc Lintock/ Brian McClair/ Trevor Brooking/ Howard Kendall/ Francis Lee senior people in the game ? this question would you employ Eric Black and / or Colin Hendry , I can absolutely assure you of the answer Black decent coach a good number 2 ,but nothing more, Hendry, lazy ,egotistical, addicted to gambling ,and he will undermine any young manager you bring in. ronnie clayton

3:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

Maybe Shebby you if you could ask guys like Frank Mc Lintock/ Brian McClair/ Trevor Brooking/ Howard Kendall/ Francis Lee senior people in the game ?
this question would you employ Eric Black and / or Colin Hendry , I can absolutely assure you of the answer Black decent coach a good number 2 ,but nothing more, Hendry, lazy ,egotistical, addicted to gambling ,and he will undermine any young manager you bring in.
Maybe Shebby you if you could ask guys like Frank Mc Lintock/ Brian McClair/ Trevor Brooking/ Howard Kendall/ Francis Lee senior people in the game ? this question would you employ Eric Black and / or Colin Hendry , I can absolutely assure you of the answer Black decent coach a good number 2 ,but nothing more, Hendry, lazy ,egotistical, addicted to gambling ,and he will undermine any young manager you bring in. ronnie clayton

3:16pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Nurseman says...

No Sherwood is NO PROBLEM.

Just about everybody who really matters (the supporters) want a known quantity who has relevant EXPERIENCE.
What on earth is Shebby thinking, the mind boggles!
No Sherwood is NO PROBLEM. Just about everybody who really matters (the supporters) want a known quantity who has relevant EXPERIENCE. What on earth is Shebby thinking, the mind boggles! Nurseman

3:23pm Thu 18 Oct 12

bburnrover says...

Thank god we did not take on Sherwood but it is ok taking ones time but it reduces our options as more and more clubs will be requiring the same canditates as we are.

Please have a word with either of the Ollies as both would be ok in my book.I think we could wait until November for Ole Gunnar he is worth the wait.
Thank god we did not take on Sherwood but it is ok taking ones time but it reduces our options as more and more clubs will be requiring the same canditates as we are. Please have a word with either of the Ollies as both would be ok in my book.I think we could wait until November for Ole Gunnar he is worth the wait. bburnrover

4:22pm Thu 18 Oct 12

maggie-T says...

Plan b, I think that's ill manors myself
Plan b, I think that's ill manors myself maggie-T

4:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

bburnrover wrote:
Thank god we did not take on Sherwood but it is ok taking ones time but it reduces our options as more and more clubs will be requiring the same canditates as we are.

Please have a word with either of the Ollies as both would be ok in my book.I think we could wait until November for Ole Gunnar he is worth the wait.
Shebby had a word with Ollie, he said he was busy shifting a piano with his mate Stanley, but there was no chance he'd work for Venkys because that would make him look 8loody stupid.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Thank god we did not take on Sherwood but it is ok taking ones time but it reduces our options as more and more clubs will be requiring the same canditates as we are. Please have a word with either of the Ollies as both would be ok in my book.I think we could wait until November for Ole Gunnar he is worth the wait.[/p][/quote]Shebby had a word with Ollie, he said he was busy shifting a piano with his mate Stanley, but there was no chance he'd work for Venkys because that would make him look 8loody stupid. greenscreener

4:43pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ginger allan says...

Ginger Allan says, The overs could do a lot worse than appoint Owen Coyle as manager. he proved that he has the ability and experience to bring out the talents of the Rovers squad, as he proved at Burnley. Certainly worth considering.
Ginger Allan says, The overs could do a lot worse than appoint Owen Coyle as manager. he proved that he has the ability and experience to bring out the talents of the Rovers squad, as he proved at Burnley. Certainly worth considering. ginger allan

4:53pm Thu 18 Oct 12

billyblue2 says...

Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans.
That is not the case.

McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted.
Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans. That is not the case. McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted. billyblue2

5:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Mister Red says...

Plan B?? what good would appointing a singer/rapper as manager do ?
Plan B?? what good would appointing a singer/rapper as manager do ? Mister Red

5:58pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Cumbrian Blue says...

jezblue wrote:
I don't see the interest in Sherwood at all. He wasn't that good a player at Ewood and spent most of the game pointing to others or passing back. Has he changed that much that he would make a great manager???
Interesting thoughts on the Premiership winning Captain's prowess as player. He would have easily made any of our teams after he left - and boy could we do with him now.

As a manager I have my doubts and the Jury would most certainly be out. but out of all the non-tried and tested managers he'd be my no. 1 choice.
[quote][p][bold]jezblue[/bold] wrote: I don't see the interest in Sherwood at all. He wasn't that good a player at Ewood and spent most of the game pointing to others or passing back. Has he changed that much that he would make a great manager???[/p][/quote]Interesting thoughts on the Premiership winning Captain's prowess as player. He would have easily made any of our teams after he left - and boy could we do with him now. As a manager I have my doubts and the Jury would most certainly be out. but out of all the non-tried and tested managers he'd be my no. 1 choice. Cumbrian Blue

6:29pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Bigdel says...

billyblue2 wrote:
Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans.
That is not the case.

McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted.
And then relegated, no thank you.
[quote][p][bold]billyblue2[/bold] wrote: Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans. That is not the case. McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted.[/p][/quote]And then relegated, no thank you. Bigdel

7:05pm Thu 18 Oct 12

kiwipom73 says...

I also don,nt understand WHY Singh is obsessed with giving Sherwood his first EVER manager job....after having given another coach his first ever job !!!

If they did have quite a number of experienced manager,s with the ability clearly needed at this and Premier level, then WHY, WHY, WHY are this going the inexperienced way again.
THERE HAS TO BE A REASON BEYOND JUST A FOOTBALLING ONE !!!!!!
I also don,nt understand WHY Singh is obsessed with giving Sherwood his first EVER manager job....after having given another coach his first ever job !!! If they did have quite a number of experienced manager,s with the ability clearly needed at this and Premier level, then WHY, WHY, WHY are this going the inexperienced way again. THERE HAS TO BE A REASON BEYOND JUST A FOOTBALLING ONE !!!!!! kiwipom73

8:49pm Thu 18 Oct 12

smellthecoffee says...

MerlinTheVoiceofReas
on2
wrote:
Shebby, please drop this personal obsession with Sherwood. I have bad vibes about it. Just go and get Holloway. An experienced pair of hands, he has unearthed some good players for not much money and is the man-motivator Rovers badly need. I think IH is Derek Shaw's preferred opiton. Under no circumstances listen to Paul Agnew, who (allegedly) thinks Eric Black should be given the job.
He only wants him because he's an old ESPN buddy to go along with Hendry....Shebby Singh knows absolutely nothing about football. Just like the rest of them, he's starstruck and thinks the sun shines out of Hendry and Sherwood's ar$es. HENDRY, BLACK OUT!!! SHERWOOD..NO THANKS!! NOT EVEN FOR ZERO COMPENSATION!!! Venky's gegt someone in of the ilk of John Williams and you might just save the club from annihilation. SS is another Billy Bullsh1tter to go along with the rest of them.
[quote][p][bold]MerlinTheVoiceofReas on2[/bold] wrote: Shebby, please drop this personal obsession with Sherwood. I have bad vibes about it. Just go and get Holloway. An experienced pair of hands, he has unearthed some good players for not much money and is the man-motivator Rovers badly need. I think IH is Derek Shaw's preferred opiton. Under no circumstances listen to Paul Agnew, who (allegedly) thinks Eric Black should be given the job.[/p][/quote]He only wants him because he's an old ESPN buddy to go along with Hendry....Shebby Singh knows absolutely nothing about football. Just like the rest of them, he's starstruck and thinks the sun shines out of Hendry and Sherwood's ar$es. HENDRY, BLACK OUT!!! SHERWOOD..NO THANKS!! NOT EVEN FOR ZERO COMPENSATION!!! Venky's gegt someone in of the ilk of John Williams and you might just save the club from annihilation. SS is another Billy Bullsh1tter to go along with the rest of them. smellthecoffee

8:53pm Thu 18 Oct 12

smellthecoffee says...

billyblue2 wrote:
Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans. That is not the case. McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted.
McCarthy or Shearer for me.
[quote][p][bold]billyblue2[/bold] wrote: Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans. That is not the case. McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted.[/p][/quote]McCarthy or Shearer for me. smellthecoffee

8:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

smellthecoffee says...

Bigdel wrote:
billyblue2 wrote: Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans. That is not the case. McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted.
And then relegated, no thank you.
You seem to forget that we haven't got promoted yet. If we employed McCarthy and he gets us promoted then job done. If he then struggles, you get rid and employ someone else. The thing is with the new TV contract, you have mega millions to then hire and fire at will. The bottom line is we need someone to get us promotion this season. Next season is another story. BTW If Rovers got promoted and relegated every other season then that is a fully sustainable financial pattern for a club like Rovers.
[quote][p][bold]Bigdel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyblue2[/bold] wrote: Will someone please tell venkys we dont want SHERWOOD. We need someone with experience. Venkys think that bringing in the championship winning captain they will please fans. That is not the case. McCarthy is the man . he has a pedigree of getting clubs promoted.[/p][/quote]And then relegated, no thank you.[/p][/quote]You seem to forget that we haven't got promoted yet. If we employed McCarthy and he gets us promoted then job done. If he then struggles, you get rid and employ someone else. The thing is with the new TV contract, you have mega millions to then hire and fire at will. The bottom line is we need someone to get us promotion this season. Next season is another story. BTW If Rovers got promoted and relegated every other season then that is a fully sustainable financial pattern for a club like Rovers. smellthecoffee

9:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12

silverstan says...

How many plans doe's Shabba Ranks want ?? We need a manager with experience of keeping Rovers in the premiership....... oh there all employed in the Premiership, what mug that has no experience would come to Ewood clucking Park ?? Oh Eric Black ........ Bad move Venkys !!!!
How many plans doe's Shabba Ranks want ?? We need a manager with experience of keeping Rovers in the premiership....... oh there all employed in the Premiership, what mug that has no experience would come to Ewood clucking Park ?? Oh Eric Black ........ Bad move Venkys !!!! silverstan

9:03pm Thu 18 Oct 12

smellthecoffee says...

zenoufthebirdcatcher wrote:
Sherwood is the wrong man, though I think that Shebby's persistence will pay off. Plan B: Shearer is a non starter in my opinion. Personally, I would prefer either Holloway or Keith Hill, strong characters both, but methinks that neither could work with the current, chaotic set up. The Black/Hendry combo will not happen. I hope that I am wrong, but I cannot see this business ending well. Nearly had a heart attack on reading the Kean headline. Perhaps young Jake could change it or the headline writer stop playing with the physical wellbeing of the fans. We have suffered enough.
Do you bother to do any research before posting your clueless comments?? Keith Hill's record at Barnsley is worse than Steve Kean's at Rovers. So...can you please inform me how that qualifies him to be Rovers next manager? He was even reputedly on the brink of the sack ffs!! You telling me Hill wouldn't leave Barnsley for a multi million pound contract at Ewood?? Are you having a laugh??
[quote][p][bold]zenoufthebirdcatcher[/bold] wrote: Sherwood is the wrong man, though I think that Shebby's persistence will pay off. Plan B: Shearer is a non starter in my opinion. Personally, I would prefer either Holloway or Keith Hill, strong characters both, but methinks that neither could work with the current, chaotic set up. The Black/Hendry combo will not happen. I hope that I am wrong, but I cannot see this business ending well. Nearly had a heart attack on reading the Kean headline. Perhaps young Jake could change it or the headline writer stop playing with the physical wellbeing of the fans. We have suffered enough.[/p][/quote]Do you bother to do any research before posting your clueless comments?? Keith Hill's record at Barnsley is worse than Steve Kean's at Rovers. So...can you please inform me how that qualifies him to be Rovers next manager? He was even reputedly on the brink of the sack ffs!! You telling me Hill wouldn't leave Barnsley for a multi million pound contract at Ewood?? Are you having a laugh?? smellthecoffee

9:08pm Thu 18 Oct 12

smellthecoffee says...

silverstan wrote:
How many plans doe's Shabba Ranks want ?? We need a manager with experience of keeping Rovers in the premiership....... oh there all employed in the Premiership, what mug that has no experience would come to Ewood clucking Park ?? Oh Eric Black ........ Bad move Venkys !!!!
Again, I shall reiterate...this season we need someone to get us promoted. Then...if that person has a good start to the Premiership campaign you keep him...if not, you get rid!! What's the problem?? Am I missing something here?? Black and Hendry have proven they do not have what it takes....you now look for someone with a proven pedigree of getting teams promoted.
[quote][p][bold]silverstan[/bold] wrote: How many plans doe's Shabba Ranks want ?? We need a manager with experience of keeping Rovers in the premiership....... oh there all employed in the Premiership, what mug that has no experience would come to Ewood clucking Park ?? Oh Eric Black ........ Bad move Venkys !!!![/p][/quote]Again, I shall reiterate...this season we need someone to get us promoted. Then...if that person has a good start to the Premiership campaign you keep him...if not, you get rid!! What's the problem?? Am I missing something here?? Black and Hendry have proven they do not have what it takes....you now look for someone with a proven pedigree of getting teams promoted. smellthecoffee

9:13pm Thu 18 Oct 12

norover says...

kiwipom73 wrote:
I also don,nt understand WHY Singh is obsessed with giving Sherwood his first EVER manager job....after having given another coach his first ever job !!!

If they did have quite a number of experienced manager,s with the ability clearly needed at this and Premier level, then WHY, WHY, WHY are this going the inexperienced way again.
THERE HAS TO BE A REASON BEYOND JUST A FOOTBALLING ONE !!!!!!
Makes sense to Singh,no experience do what I say,keep the backroom staff job's for the boy's sorted.
[quote][p][bold]kiwipom73[/bold] wrote: I also don,nt understand WHY Singh is obsessed with giving Sherwood his first EVER manager job....after having given another coach his first ever job !!! If they did have quite a number of experienced manager,s with the ability clearly needed at this and Premier level, then WHY, WHY, WHY are this going the inexperienced way again. THERE HAS TO BE A REASON BEYOND JUST A FOOTBALLING ONE !!!!!![/p][/quote]Makes sense to Singh,no experience do what I say,keep the backroom staff job's for the boy's sorted. norover

11:09pm Thu 18 Oct 12

bbf70 says...

I don't get it tbh, if we have had so many high profile applications why are we chasing people who, presumably, did not apply for the post?
I don't get it tbh, if we have had so many high profile applications why are we chasing people who, presumably, did not apply for the post? bbf70

12:57am Fri 19 Oct 12

smellthecoffee says...

bbf70 wrote:
I don't get it tbh, if we have had so many high profile applications why are we chasing people who, presumably, did not apply for the post?
It was prob just more BS misinformation spread about to the press.
[quote][p][bold]bbf70[/bold] wrote: I don't get it tbh, if we have had so many high profile applications why are we chasing people who, presumably, did not apply for the post?[/p][/quote]It was prob just more BS misinformation spread about to the press. smellthecoffee

1:32am Fri 19 Oct 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

I love the way you use that picture of Sherwood in every article. Is it the only one you've got?

He looks particularly seedy I have to say. I reckon that picture of Deadwood looking furtively about sums him up perfectly. A seedy little chancer.
I love the way you use that picture of Sherwood in every article. Is it the only one you've got? He looks particularly seedy I have to say. I reckon that picture of Deadwood looking furtively about sums him up perfectly. A seedy little chancer. RespectTheK-Dog

1:49am Fri 19 Oct 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

One man said to the other:

"Show us the color of your money"

Sherwood is the only one who should be pressing for this role, such would be the desire of a man who relishes this challenge - technical director or manager ?

No chuffing brainer, in my opinion.

Never mind the perception that BRFC is somehow untouchable in these present times - that is ****.

BRFC is for someone with balls and vision in getting it right.

It as been achieved previously.

Sherwood ?

So it goes........

Arte et labore
One man said to the other: "Show us the color of your money" Sherwood is the only one who should be pressing for this role, such would be the desire of a man who relishes this challenge - technical director or manager ? No chuffing brainer, in my opinion. Never mind the perception that BRFC is somehow untouchable in these present times - that is ****. BRFC is for someone with balls and vision in getting it right. It as been achieved previously. Sherwood ? So it goes........ Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

6:44am Fri 19 Oct 12

Dan11 says...

I dont want sherwood. I dont want an inexperienced manager.
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I want Holloway- the only experienced manager on the shortlist it seems and the only man who will get us back playing in the premierleague next season.
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SOS to Singh.
I dont want sherwood. I dont want an inexperienced manager. - I want Holloway- the only experienced manager on the shortlist it seems and the only man who will get us back playing in the premierleague next season. - SOS to Singh. Dan11

7:29am Fri 19 Oct 12

RoverDownSouth says...

Simon Grayson is the man for me out of all possible candidates. Not Sherwood or Shearer.
Simon Grayson is the man for me out of all possible candidates. Not Sherwood or Shearer. RoverDownSouth

10:02am Fri 19 Oct 12

srvp28 says...

The real problem with this whole debacle is that Sherwood was considered as 'Plan A' in the first place. Aside from the fact that he has no managerial experience whatsoever, or that he seemingly didn't even apply for the job, it is another blatant case of someone in a senior position at the club trying to get 'jobs for the boys'. What's even worse is that Shebby Singh has insulted the fans' intelligence by assuming we couldn't put two and two together and come up with four.

So far Sherwood has yet to reveal any interest in the role so hopefully Singh's efforts will prove futile. However, I get the impression that he won't be keen on appointing a proven manager as this will only serve to highlight the fact that a Global Advisor is not needed in football. Ironically, Sherwood would be far more suited for Singh's job than he would be for that of team manager.

As for going after a manager who is already in employment, I haven't read a single name that has jumped out and convinced me it's worth the time, effort or money to bring them to Ewood Park. I also find it highly unlikely that Venky's will want someone who isn't willing to tow the company line and let Singh and themselves make the big decisions regarding transfers, etc.

I hate to say it but if Eric Black gets a win against Derby I think they'll wait to see if he can follow it up with another. If he's successful I believe they'll offer him the position as they don't want to the rock the boat.
The real problem with this whole debacle is that Sherwood was considered as 'Plan A' in the first place. Aside from the fact that he has no managerial experience whatsoever, or that he seemingly didn't even apply for the job, it is another blatant case of someone in a senior position at the club trying to get 'jobs for the boys'. What's even worse is that Shebby Singh has insulted the fans' intelligence by assuming we couldn't put two and two together and come up with four. So far Sherwood has yet to reveal any interest in the role so hopefully Singh's efforts will prove futile. However, I get the impression that he won't be keen on appointing a proven manager as this will only serve to highlight the fact that a Global Advisor is not needed in football. Ironically, Sherwood would be far more suited for Singh's job than he would be for that of team manager. As for going after a manager who is already in employment, I haven't read a single name that has jumped out and convinced me it's worth the time, effort or money to bring them to Ewood Park. I also find it highly unlikely that Venky's will want someone who isn't willing to tow the company line and let Singh and themselves make the big decisions regarding transfers, etc. I hate to say it but if Eric Black gets a win against Derby I think they'll wait to see if he can follow it up with another. If he's successful I believe they'll offer him the position as they don't want to the rock the boat. srvp28

9:31pm Fri 19 Oct 12

kiwipom73 says...

I read that Blacpool have not recieved any inquiry Re Holloway (therefore either Venky or media "b........t" )

So we could be already onto Plan "C" without any real understanding there was a Plan "A" or "B".......

Could "Bollywood" put a soundtrack to this all saga......finishing with "Get Back"...including "I,am a Loser" and "bring on the Clowns" !!!
I read that Blacpool have not recieved any inquiry Re Holloway (therefore either Venky or media "b........t" ) So we could be already onto Plan "C" without any real understanding there was a Plan "A" or "B"....... Could "Bollywood" put a soundtrack to this all saga......finishing with "Get Back"...including "I,am a Loser" and "bring on the Clowns" !!! kiwipom73

9:41pm Fri 19 Oct 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

GET SHEARER IN

DON'T MESS ABOUT

SHEARER FOR THE ATTACK WITH HENDRY FOR THE DEFENCE

SORTED
GET SHEARER IN DON'T MESS ABOUT SHEARER FOR THE ATTACK WITH HENDRY FOR THE DEFENCE SORTED RespectTheK-Dog

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